WarRoom Battleground EP 697: Recap Of RFK And The Fight Against Big Pharma
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Stephen K. Cohen and Natalie Winters visit the White House to try to make sense of the spending freeze, and find out what's really going on with the left. Plus, a federal judge in Rhode Island has put another stay or TRO on the Trump administration's funding freeze.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it I know you don't like hearing that I know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
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where do people like that go to share the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any
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of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that
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answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host Stephen K.
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Okay welcome Wednesday 29 January year of the Lord 2025 we're kind of packed this hour so we're
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going to get on with it let's go to the White House our own Natalie Winters Natalie another
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judge is waiting you got to help us make sense of this the memo a memo went out last night from
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OMB or yesterday afternoon saying hey all money should stop flowing until we kind of get our grip
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get a handle about where all this cash is going we want funding stop the left went crazy last
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night I think there are protesters outside the White House right now you can fill us in
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then Caroline Levitt our own Caroline Levitt said today hey look we rescinded the memo but we didn't
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rescind the buy of what the memo meant and we want all of the agencies to go full stop now another
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federal judge has jumped in and we got a stay last night from the one in DC but that kind of got
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overridden by today's action but now we got another they went to court and a federal judge in Rhode Island
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has put another stay or TRO on us to make this make sense to us what in the hell is going on
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sure well Steve I think you were too humble in the last segment saying that we have a few more sets of
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eyes on us here in the war room I think since we've gotten our White House press creds I think we were
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what the number one trending story on Twitter for about 24 hours I don't think the mainstream media
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really likes us being here but all that aside I think this story is sort of the epitome they know
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we're going to expose them for the liars that they are if people remember what did I tell you guys
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coming out of that press briefing out of the Stephen Miller press gaggle that I witnessed the number one
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question on the forefront of everyone in the legacy media was asking about the spending freeze and we've
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really only seen the story escalate I think to sort of keep better track of it in everyone's minds
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there really have been two lawsuits that have sort of been brought against it one coming from the NGO
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apparatus world the other coming from the Democratic the state AGs so why you're seeing another judge get
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involved like you said this is now a federal judge out of Rhode Island of course an Obama appointee
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his name is John McConnell I'll read you the quote I'm inclined to grant the restraining order
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I fear that the administration is acting with a distinction without a difference he's of course
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speaking in reference to press secretary Caroline Levitt's statement where they're saying that they're
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sort of trying to circumvent the legal withhold or legal pause on the freeze in other words it's just sort
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of a de facto freeze by President Trump's not necessarily stroke of the pen but just the ethos behind the
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order so they're trying to place another hold on that that was sort of the lead on Politico before we
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started this afternoon show so that's the main story and one last point of news that's happening today
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democracy forward which is basically that conglomerate of a bunch of resistance groups in concert with of
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course the Mark Eliases of the world they've introduced yet another I believe it's the third lawsuit to block
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President Trump's schedule F executive order the question there's gonna be standings that's why they're
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they're trying to cover the the waterfront um I just want to make a point Natalie is that for the
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battles ahead this has nothing to do with the cuts to these programs this is just a freeze so they can
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understand where all the cash is going and President Trump is making a point of hey I'm getting out of
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WHO I'm getting the Green New Deal why why did I read in the Wall Street Journal the Financial Times
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the money's still going there I can't get to it this goes back also to the theory that's going to be
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tested of impoundment so these are these these are huge issues at stake but folks right now the left
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is on for war full war path is that protest outside we can hear it Natalie is that about
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the spending freeze that we're that we're hearing right now they're already protesting outside the
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White House now to be honest they're a little uh underwhelming they're just calling President
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Trump a fascist and all of his staffers and of course myself and Brian Glenn but I guess that's my
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new commute to work um I'll take it I guess they're taking Rachel Maddow's what did she really hone in
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on what was it last week the idea of shame um being a powerful tool I guess that's kind of all that
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they have but I think it goes back Steve frankly um just to the idea I think it's right it's shut down
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politics sort of like the Wizard of Oz when you see behind the curtain you actually realize that a lot
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of this you know integral spending like sending foreign aid to every country except the United States is
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actually not that not all that integral and when you see that the country can exist without sending
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billions or trillions of dollars to third world countries it sort of defeats the entire business
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model that this country's run on for a very long time why don't you hang on one second can we play a
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couple of clips from Bobby Kennedy I'm very honored to have Mary Holland the president of Children's
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Health Defense here we're gonna play a couple of clips from Bobby Kennedy and then talk to her
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Natalie hang on because I want your response to thanks one if you want to move from advocacy
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to public responsibility Americans are going to need to hear a clear and trustworthy recantation
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of what you have said on vaccinations including a promise from you never
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to say vaccines aren't medically safe when they in fact are and making indisputably clear that you
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support mandatory vaccinations against diseases where that will keep people safe you're in that hole
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pretty deep we've just had a measles case in Rhode Island the first since 2013 and frankly
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you frighten people I will all day long they're drilling Bobby Kennedy Bobby Kennedy is absolutely
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essential to make America healthy again you've worked with this guy for a long time number one
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do you think they got to him today rattled him and do you think he comes out as strong as he walked
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in as far as the ability to to get confirmed yes I think that he they did not rattle him he's very
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used to this this is nearly 20 years of this stuff and the betting markets were up about 30 percent
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after his uh confirmation hearing today why was that I think he showed himself very calm and composed
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under pressure I think the the because he pulled his punches you know Megan Kelly and I wanted to be a
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little more aggressive but we're naturally crazy Irishmen so we want to your your your theory of the case is
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it's better not to let my theory of the case yeah my theory of the case is he let these people
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grandstand and they burned himself out they showed themselves to be silly talking about onesies at a
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senate confirmation hearing is just ridiculous and I think he they they just wanted to blather on they
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didn't want to hear answers and that comes across to the American people it was only half of that
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committee that really wanted to hear the answers if you don't want to hear the answers from the person
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who's going to be the secretary you're not serious about that in that inquiry and that's to me what
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came across Tommy Tuberville sat in that seat he's going to be on the committee tomorrow of health and
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human services and I asked him I said if you you know the military industrial complex the big tech
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industrial complex and then you had the big pharma medical industrial complex I said rank order those
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of the most powerful and he said Steve he says big pharma and medical is so far above military I said what
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and he says not even comparison he says they're all over they're everywhere they get lobbyists because
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there's so much money and he says they're so powerful is that true well there are seven lobbyists for
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every member of congress from the pharma industrial complex and of course seven lobbyists for every
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member of congress so you have 535 members you're telling I'm telling you that's what the number that
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I've heard remember Bobby's budget 1.9 trillion is three times the military budget so yes this is the
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biggest money center in the cabinet and this it is connected especially around pandemic preparedness
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this is connected to the military industrial complex so yes they are extremely powerful and we're seeing
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this tremendous pushback which we've been seeing all along but what's important is that Bobby Kennedy is
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on the cusp of confirmation there were thousands of people who came from all over the country I am
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certain there are millions of people watching the videos that are out there right now this is something
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the country wants to see the country wants to understand this vaccine issue and they I think
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are behind what Bobby basically his message was I want gold standard science and I want radical
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transparency those were his core messages is that why there's so much money through the system is that
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why finance goes before the health care committee I think so because you're just talking about the cash is
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so big it's so great you have to know somebody's a fiduciary yeah and when there's no transparency how do you
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know the money's being honest you don't but the money's not being honest well there's tremendous
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corruption in the health care sector I don't think anybody disagrees with that in Medicaid and Medicare
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that they talked about there's tremendous levels of fraud and I think Bobby Kennedy will look at that
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and I think he will be positive in in undercutting some of that you know fat your understanding of this
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industrial complex your understanding of Bobby Kennedy the man and the activist what are the
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one or two most important things he can accomplish for President Trump in the nation as the secretary
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radical transparency is number one there are closed books Steve that need to be opened about the chronic
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disease epidemic he is laser focused on overcoming the chronic disease epidemic in this country over
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half of adults and children have some kind of chronic condition define that it means chronic means it's
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not an acute condition it's not an accident it's not an infectious disease it means it's asthma it's
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diabetes it's heart disease it's cancer and America's never been like that it's never something's happened
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and as Bobby said there can be genetic susceptibility but there has to be some environmental trigger and
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he's an environmental scientist he's been looking at this kind of science what is the trigger what's
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making this happen as he said when his uncle was president there were like three percent of the
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American public that had chronic disease conditions they weren't spending money on it now it is 90 percent
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of our health care budget and it's not about the money cost it's really about the human cost I thought
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it was really poignant when he said when people are healthy they have a hundred they have a thousand
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dreams when people are sick they have one dream and that's to be healthy be healthy what's the
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besides radical transparency what else well gold standard science the truth of the matter is Steve
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we look at the science around vaccines every day and it is not transparent and it's not honest science
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there's fake placebos that are used every day they game who goes into the clinical trials and they hide the
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data the FDA doesn't do any independent science the drug companies do the science and they feed to FDA
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basically what they want to feed so Bobby is going to have a lot to do with creating recreating gold
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standard science and bringing in as he said people to HHS who are really ready to engage in unbiased
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science and innovation what um what do you put his odds today after the finance committee what do you put
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his odds as confirmation better than 50 percent way better than 50 percent what do you think what does
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he have to do tomorrow because Megan and I would love to see more aggressive but you're saying you don't
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understand the game the game's a confirmation let the Democrats punch himself think about what they
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accuse him of they accuse him of being a nut job they accuse him of being an anti-vax conspiracy theorist
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so what's the best antidote to that to be deliberative to be calm to be sober-minded to be rational I think
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that's what he showed today I think that's what he'll show tomorrow one of the things I was most
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impressed in working with you guys last couple of years the people involved with with you guys in
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your movement I was very impressed Claire had some tremendous interviews on the way in the line
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but talk about those thousand people what got you not just had Megan Kelly sitting back and you
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literally had people rotating in all day for those seats to show support talk to us about those people
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I just talked to people who flew in from Hawaii Steve I talked to people who flew in from Illinois
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people who drove all night people who waited online at one in the morning people want somebody who cares
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about people in that job I think we've seen you know Alex Azar Scott Gobbley people who really came
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out of pharma and they went back to pharma Bobby's never been in pharma he's never been in corporate
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interest and he's gonna he's there for the people as he said he doesn't need this job to be secretary
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but he wants children to be healthy he wants our country to be healthy explain to our audience what
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is make America healthy again what does the maha movement stand for it stands for taking America's health
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back from corporate interests the corporate interests make money on sick people we have a sick care system
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we don't have a health system I think Bobby wants it to be a system that supports health and that's good
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food that's good medicine that may be supplements that may be use of AI that may be telemedicine it's really
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making available to people healthy lives Mary thank you for coming where the people get you you'll be there
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tomorrow just make a commitment we want to see you tomorrow night after the second day you got it
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Mary Holland where do people go to get all the information about the group and everything
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and all the accusations against Bobby children's health defense dot org children's health defense
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dot org and do you have a social media handle children's hd children's hd thank you so much
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thank you appreciate you um and we're going to see you tomorrow same time here we're going to do a
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wrap-up same time same place uh natalie winters from the white house what do they think give me give me
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your assessment of uh of bobby kennedy's uh testimony and what's the feeling and the vibe at the white house
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i get the sense that the mainstream media sort of feels like they had a victory um i don't think
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they're certainly freaking out like they did over the pete hegseth confirmation hearings not necessarily
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a full-blown victory but they're not panicked about it like i think we would expect them um to be i think
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obviously sort of what we were talking about before in the same way that the the freezing spend sort of
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exposes i think um a lot of the foreign aid programs here for being the frauds the rackets
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and the scams that they are in the form of you know the covet and the wuhan grants um i think someone
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like bobby kennedy i think you can sort of discern you know qui bono right who the entities are that
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have things at stake by who was funding the opposition to him and it wasn't really even just
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democrats i mean obviously elizabeth warren had her you know spiraling out karen moment
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but i think more of the opposition has really come um from establishment republicans right in
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the form of mike pence i think it's absolutely disgraceful the ads that they've been running
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the sort of statements that he's been putting out um you know mr mike pence who wants to stand on the
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hill of being a staunch pro-life defender shame on you you're the person who oversaw and ushered in
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the most not just illegitimate but most radical pro-death regime that this country has ever seen that
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was the biden regime for the last four years the selective moral outrage is really lost i think on
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everyone um i'm glad to be uh bashing mike pence on the white house lawn on day two i'll take that
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um but i think that you can really see who the enemies are and i think that i think our audience
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has really stepped into the breach in terms of making the phone calls um but i don't think we
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get anywhere by pretending like today was a really really good day um for confirming rfk um i think
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that we need to continue burning down the phone lines because i would like to see my newfound mainstream
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media colleagues a little bit more disappointed about what happened today but i i don't think they
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they really are no i think i think you're right we got work to do overnight and tomorrow 202-224-3121 or
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get the uh bill blaster app under grace chung's tutelage or um mike davis over at article three we're
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going to need to get to the ramparts and of course tulsi tomorrow and um in cash hang on for a second
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i want to go to carrie lake carrie you saw tell me about bobby kennedy what did you think about the
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hearing today wow i thought it was great i mean it's like must see tv watching all of these confirmation
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hearings and this one is a little more near and dear to me as well you know being a mom and i think a
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lot of moms are watching this moms who aren't even involved in politics and maybe normally wouldn't
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care in politics we're glued to this today i saw some of my mama bear friends who you know haven't
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gotten overly involved they don't watch your show they're not they're not posse members they're just
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taking care of their families and they were totally in tune to this today watching somebody who's really
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stepped up as a hero for moms moms who maybe have kids with autism you know i i had a son with uh with
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severe asthma a chronic condition like asthma where you know going to the hospital a couple times a year
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became the norm for us and we want to get to the bottom of why why are we seeing these diseases
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why are we seeing more of them why did it used to be one in ten thousand kids had autism and now it's
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one in 36 kids and bobby kennedy jr was the guy who was standing up to big pharma do you know how scary
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that is that's you know standing up to big pharma and the military industrial complex i think those are
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the two scariest entities in the world they will destroy you and he stood up and he has been uh
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sounding the alarm i mean the fact that he wrote this book it's one of the best books out there
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the real anthony fauci they're scared to death some of these people in washington dc because he's going
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to now be able to dig further and prove to the people what's really been going on and he's been right
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about things i mean he was right about red dye he was about it being a carcinogen he was right about
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fluoride affecting uh our children's um iq and what else does he write about the moms out there
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who have really good gut instincts about what's going on with their kids they are connected to bobby
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kennedy jr because he's the first guy to stand up and say we got to make our country healthy again
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and i'm really looking forward to tomorrow i thought he did an incredible job i disagree with
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you and megan kelly even though i love both of you i thought his temperament was perfect today
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you know there's something very um very commanding about somebody who remains calm under pressure
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when he had elizabeth warren screaming at him he remained calm the person who's screaming is the one
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who looks out of control and there's nobody who understands the issue in the topic like bobby jr
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if you've ever had a chance to sit and talk with him his brain is like an encyclopedia and today they
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kept pushing vaccines vaccines vaccines i don't think that those senators realize the skepticism because
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of the covid shot that moms and dads now feel out there about public health about some of the vaccines
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that have been pushed on us they want more information not less they want more transparency
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that's what we're going to get with bobby kennedy jr i thought he did an excellent job today knocked it
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out of the ballpark and uh i hope that he gets the the uh the votes and gets confirmed i think there's
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going to be a lot of mad mothers and fathers and young people out there who came into the movement
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simply because of him who voted republican maybe for the first time in their lives or voted for the first
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time in their lives who will walk away from the republican party if they don't vote the right
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way which is to vote for bobby kennedy for hhs i'm looking forward to seeing him take on big pharma
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and i thought he did an incredible job the um it's one of the reasons that you left broadcasting and
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became it got into the mega movement became one of the leading lights in the mega movement could you
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feel the money in the room today could you actually feel big pharma pfizer in these companies
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coming after bobby kennedy ma'am interesting that you bring that up because i was watching um i've been
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a little bit under the weather as you can probably hear in my voice and i was kind of laying there in
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bed watching and the people who were yelling the loudest and harping on him the most i thought
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they must be getting a payout from big pharma the big pharmaceutical companies and sure enough a little
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bit later i noticed on social media that you know one of the top folks who gets money from um from big
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pharma is elizabeth warren you would think that the democrats would be on on his side on this they've
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talked for years about caring about our health caring about health care they only want to they only care
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about health care if it means pouring a ton of money into the pharmaceutical companies and uh i don't
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think that's what health care is i think health care is preventing illness is making sure that as uh
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as what what kennedy said today what is in our food is safe we want to make sure that when we're feeding
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our families feeding ourselves that something hasn't been put into our food that makes it unsafe
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and getting to the bottom of all of this and you know i i thought uh the questions seemed to really hit
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only on vaccines there were so many other issues he talked about about chronic illness and about
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you know really reducing the price of what we're paying for health care and getting a better
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quality for it that get getting a more high quality um you know health care and and they were so
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condescending toward him it was it was actually embarrassing he's one of the smartest people i know
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uh every conversation i've ever had with him i've been amazed at the uh information he has that he's
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been able to store in his brain and i think he showed that today when he calmly took on these
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senators let them some of them go into hysterics and he sat there and answered the questions the
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best he could with them interrupting him uh you're one of the more important people coming in this
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administration one of the most important jobs the voice of america i know you get big plans for it
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you're not senate confirmed but it's got to go through a process to get you there talk to me about
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tomorrow as you see two of your colleagues uh going through i think could be two of the toughest
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sessions i think make bobby kennedy's pale in comparison that is tulsi gabbard at dni and cash
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patel at fbi give us your pre-game assessment of this ma'am well i know both tulsi and cash um and
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you know i i know that tulsi is calm and cool and collected under fire i can't imagine her ever losing
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her cool they won't be able to trip her up she will remain calm and steadfast and i know that that's
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going to go really well look they don't want these people they don't want any of trump's people cash is
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going to be incredible and they'll try to paint him as a conspiracy theorist and attack him he's going
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to be incredible they're scared to death of him getting in and and rooting out corruption this
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administration is different than any administration we've seen in our lifetimes president trump is putting
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in people who don't need this they don't need the jobs do you think bobby kennedy or tulsi needs this
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job no they're doing it because they care about this country and we need to root out the corruption
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in our federal government and every single person that president trump puts forth is going to be
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attacked we have to be ready for lawfare but we've been trained up until now we've been through it up
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until now lawfare is coming our way we're going to get all these different soros based groups that
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have gone after many of us including myself and president trump and people like you and and people
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like rudy they're not going to stop and so if we think that that oh no they're coming after us
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they're suing here they're suing there maybe we should step back and slow down no we have to save
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this country and that means making sure that the bureaucracy is slimmed down making sure that the
00:24:43.660
corruption is rooted out and restoring the the federal government giving back to we the people
00:24:49.360
this government has been running on cruise control uh the bureaucracy out of control and it's running
00:24:55.540
this country off a cliff and it stops right now i'm really happy with president trump's bold agenda
00:25:02.100
what he's pushed forward i don't think he's had any missteps i think he's been doing a great job
00:25:06.640
and you know along the way there's going to be slight alterations and changes along the way that's to be
00:25:13.000
expected there's a lot of moving parts right now and we know how the deep state works it's always
00:25:18.540
constantly throwing a landmine in front of you but we've been uh through hell and back many of us have
00:25:25.300
and we're ready for it president trump is not sending uh wimpy people to washington dc he's sending
00:25:32.160
a bunch of fighters patriotic fighters and tomorrow we're going to see two of the greatest patriotic
00:25:37.180
fighters and tulsi gabbard and also in cash patel i'm looking forward to it it's must see tv
00:25:42.840
and um i know i i believe at the end of the day they will get the confirmation
00:25:47.340
carrie can we get a commitment to you to come on tomorrow after after a huge day of bobby kennedy
00:25:54.960
tulsi gabbard and cash patel and join us in the uh in the six six o'clock hour i would love to do it
00:26:01.680
i would absolutely love to do it and you know i just want to let them know if they're watching tonight
00:26:06.300
uh guys rest well and just show up you already you already know everything you got it up here
00:26:12.260
and be calm i mean take a page i think pete hegseth was so great starting this all off he's got
00:26:18.280
everyone yelling at him and he stayed calm cool and collected and um that that can be the scariest
00:26:23.840
attitude of all when you're in a room with a bunch of panicking politicians who many of whom have
00:26:30.220
taken money from these big big you know uh agencies and and uh companies and you know what i'm talking
00:26:36.880
about they've taken a lot of payouts they're people like carrie real quickly what's your what's your
00:26:42.100
social media we got to bounce what's your social media carrie lake at carrie lake go to twitter at
00:26:46.960
carrie lake you can go to getter you can go to uh facebook is the carrie lake and all of the usual
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places just look for carrie lake thank you ma'am short break back to the white house in a moment
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donate to the wrong causes buy firearms or even vote maga the government may be able to shut us
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let's go back to the white house pregame for tomorrow we have cash patel and tulsi gabbard
00:31:14.400
natalie winters talk to us about the white house's thinking of all this
00:31:17.640
well i mean i think the pam bondi hearing was essentially the pregame certainly for the cash
00:31:24.740
hearing i'm sure you could probably extend that logic to the uh the tulsi hearing too i think all
00:31:29.920
eyes are of course going to be frankly i think on on the cash one i think for two reasons
00:31:35.240
one i think that it sort of reifies and i think represents the maga movement in its entirety right
00:31:42.260
the concept of the enemies list the word that you're not allowed to say certainly not here on
00:31:46.720
the white house lawn um but that appendix uh in government gangsters but i think more importantly
00:31:51.720
i think it sort of represents the the victory of this audience of the war room posse of the sort of
00:31:57.860
article three project the ability to move the needle right it's sort of a showdown that's not just
00:32:02.680
about cash but the thing itself is sort of us the new maga right uh versus the the establishment
00:32:07.940
the powers that be right it's sort of a similar i think hegseth uh i would say confirmation in the
00:32:13.840
sense that it was supposed to be dead on arrival right at least pronounced by msnbc but look where
00:32:18.580
we are here um there seems to be a lot of i think renewed media appetite in the tulsi hearing there's
00:32:23.720
obviously the new york times story uh that what came out yesterday but that was sort of a watered
00:32:28.440
down version of the original hit piece um attack that they were going for since it was a smear
00:32:32.740
um to begin with i'll definitely be here tomorrow because i think it'll be interesting to sort of get
00:32:37.500
the uh the sense uh of how the media is reacting to the hearings um but like i said today the focus
00:32:43.940
really has been on the the freeze the aid uh from i guess the the legacy media that apparently really
00:32:49.960
cares about getting american people uh aid and benefits that's a newfound sentiment that i didn't
00:32:54.720
know they had in them uh where do people go to get you overnight there's going to be a lot of i
00:33:00.460
no interest in the memo we're going to be working through other issues to get ready tonight but
00:33:05.120
folks got to understand the white house is now a 24 7 operation uh natalie where do one go to catch
00:33:11.640
up with you uh natalie g winters on all social media platforms and we'll see you back at the white
00:33:18.680
house probably tomorrow natalie thank you so much appreciate you so on the eve of it tulsi gabbard
00:33:27.780
dni cash patel fbi bobby kennedy day two um we got lee zeldin was confirmed today so we're slowly
00:33:36.780
getting there senator thune you gotta step up you know where's russ vote we gotta step up right now
00:33:42.020
we gotta have we have to have more of these votes and we have to have them sooner jim rickards
00:33:46.000
joins us jim i wanted to have you in here in the first couple of days just give us your overall
00:33:50.560
assessment you've seen a couple of three administrations give us what do you think so
00:33:54.840
far of president trump's all pedal no break philosophy sir it's working extremely well and
00:34:02.140
it's exactly the way you described steve the the the progressives the liberals the woke uh you know
00:34:07.980
the regular democrats they can't keep up i mean he's coming out with policies on a daily basis
00:34:13.600
announcements executive orders appointments etc any one of which might have taken you know months to
00:34:18.800
consider and think about clearly this was all thought out in advance all gamed out in advance
00:34:23.480
great the exact opposite of what happened in 2016 i've been a critic of that transition
00:34:28.320
you know that that was what it was and then kind of got bogged down in the russian hoax but this time
00:34:32.660
they're extremely well prepared but my point is um you know when they did the thing with the
00:34:37.040
columbia on sunday putting up 25 percent tariffs they ended up not doing that because the columbian
00:34:42.960
president caved on the subject of taking deportees but then you know the next day was the freeze on
00:34:49.120
uh basically uh discretionary government payments no no you know no social security medicare etc
00:34:55.360
but that's huge and particularly uh usa id agency for international development that from the beginning
00:35:01.400
that has been a front for the cia yeah yeah they do some legitimate stuff but basically it's just a
00:35:07.340
what they call cut out going all the way back to the case of court meyer in the early 1960s it was a
00:35:12.220
propaganda cutout uh and they just said stop just to freeze everything you can't do anything well the
00:35:18.540
media almost forgot about deportation for a minute because they were so upset about that uh and then uh
00:35:23.740
you know new uh new terminations today i think they just fired um a couple people in uh uh in in the
00:35:31.420
justice department so so the point is every day is a super headline the opponents can't keep up and
00:35:38.140
that's great because you keep you know keep the progressives off balance let's talk about it by the
00:35:43.740
way for here for worm every day is christmas day but i want to go back to president trump just putting
00:35:48.980
out the memo they're trying to find out where the cash is but this gets to impoundment um and you
00:35:54.220
mentioned us ad a id i think president trump has said hey i'm getting a world health i'm shining on the
00:36:00.180
green new deal there should be 300 billion dollars worth of cash and the media's reporting wall street
00:36:05.520
journal financial times oh it's still out there i think he just got frustrated and said i want this
00:36:09.580
stuff shut down how important is that inside the apparatus inside the administrative state or what
00:36:14.740
trump's doing to basically test how far he can push it before he starts deconstructing it
00:36:20.060
it's extremely important i can give you a little a quick antidote from personal experience you know not
00:36:25.960
billions of dollars i had a a government contract and there was a certain amount a certain duty okay
00:36:31.480
so i did the job and i got paid what i got paid was less than the authorized amount in the contract
00:36:36.680
so it came up for renewal and they increased it increased the authorization so i said hey guys i came
00:36:42.200
in under budget last time i think i can do that again why are you increasing it they were like just
00:36:45.800
sign it so okay fine then in year three they did it again they kept increasing i kept coming in under budget
00:36:51.560
and finally i realized what they were doing is i had a bunch of you know whatever clearances etc so i
00:36:57.960
was kind of in in you know inside the uh the the system if you will so they were increasing me knowing
00:37:04.280
i wasn't going to charge that much money and then reallocating it to somebody else at the end of the year
00:37:08.760
so that's not impoundment i mean congress authorizes it you know high level fine the the anti-impoundment
00:37:16.280
act says you can't you know freeze that authorization but under that umbrella once the
00:37:21.240
congress has approved it there are thousands of programs and enormous discretion so when you when
00:37:26.120
you take a rifle shot approach to certain programs to say we're not going to spend more on this
00:37:30.120
that's not that doesn't violate the impoundment act that's within the executive branch powers now
00:37:34.680
trump may be pushing it a little bit that's fine it needs to be pushed so i think he's well within his uh
00:37:40.120
legal authority he's not violating the anti-impoundment act and that's one of the reasons they're so
00:37:44.040
they're so up in arms if this were an easy case to shoot down with the ally impoundment act they
00:37:48.040
wouldn't be complaining about it but it actually works we'd like to work and try to get you on
00:37:53.640
tomorrow because i want to have you on after cash and tulsi but can you give us a pre-game we got a
00:37:57.560
couple of minutes left here the pre-game on tulsi gabbard what is jim rickerts going to be looking
00:38:02.280
for in her testimony uh and for this audience to ensure that she can actually get confirmed what to
00:38:07.960
what to you jim are the two or three most important points well i followed all the appointments and
00:38:13.000
the the hearings very closely but i am most focused on tulsi gabbard she is so well qualified
00:38:19.080
we've met i had a very long conversation with her the thing that throws you off guard about
00:38:22.600
tulsi she's not only brainy and experienced and well qualified she's a really nice person i mean
00:38:27.880
there are a lot of smart people in the beltway who aren't aren't that nice she's just you know
00:38:31.400
kind of checks every box now here's the thing she's being beaten up over the fact that she met with
00:38:36.760
bashar al-assad who's the recently you know deposed president of syria what is the spies supposed to
00:38:42.120
do what are they supposed to do i'm not talking about you know it was kind of sitting at a desk
00:38:46.600
doing analysis and lying i'm talking about out out in the field clandestine service etc you're
00:38:50.840
supposed to go to the target country cultivate the local elites everyday people too because they can be
00:38:55.880
a source but cultivate the local elites get information and report it back that's what they do that's what
00:39:02.280
she did she how many people in langley have met with bashar al-assad he's supposedly the greatest
00:39:07.240
enemy of the united states you know etc are you meeting with him i know people interview you know
00:39:12.840
interrogated saddam hussein there are only a handful of those she actually met with the leader of a rival
00:39:19.320
got information and brought it back that's like the perfect spy so don't tell me she doesn't know what
00:39:23.960
she's doing they tell us inside she's an active duty uh army lieutenant colonel in the reserve but but
00:39:29.560
active duty you know she reports uh uh for duty a certain number of times a year you know what she
00:39:34.200
does in the in the military psychological operations that's her command is is psyops that's all the cia
00:39:40.360
does i mean they yeah they blow things up uh you know pipelines and stuff like that but basically from
00:39:45.400
the beginning again i'm going back to the 1950s and and quid meyer and uh frank weisner but but all the
00:39:51.720
way through right up till today they mostly tell lies there and it's okay they're you know the cia gets
00:39:58.040
to get it's legal to break the law that's what they do but they mostly tell lies and engage in
00:40:02.040
propaganda she's her command is psychological operations and i worked and i worked with
00:40:06.920
the cia but i also worked with the director of national intelligence one of my assignments got
00:40:11.080
moved over when d and i was created so i worked in both agencies um i know them very well from the
00:40:16.040
inside i can't think of her now why are they going to beat her up they're going to beat her up because
00:40:21.160
she has serious reservations about the war in ukraine and you got people like lindsey graham and others you
00:40:26.280
know on the republican side not just the democratic side who were total warmongers and that's the real
00:40:31.400
opposition to her so i think i think she'll hold up very well very well composed you know smart all
00:40:36.280
the things i mentioned but they're gonna she's actually uh shown that she's the perfect spy but
00:40:41.800
they're somehow going to turn that they're going to try to turn that around on her say why are you
00:40:44.920
meeting with the enemy well that's what you're supposed to do this is going to be amazing more jim i
00:40:50.840
got to talk to you afterwards and try to get you on here tomorrow jim where do people go
00:40:54.040
records war room dot com but i want to talk give it a minute or two on your newsletters why now more
00:40:59.800
than ever with capital markets roiling geopolitics changing why do they need to get up to speed on
00:41:05.720
your newsletters thanks you're right steve it is records war room dot com records war room dot com
00:41:12.120
that's our landing page you go there uh we have some videos and uh other other materials but it's it's
00:41:17.560
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00:41:23.000
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00:41:28.760
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00:41:35.160
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00:41:42.200
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00:41:46.920
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00:42:00.520
it's amazing to tie it all together cord myers ex-wife mary myers was jack kennedy's favorite
00:42:07.160
mistress just to wrap it all up jim right records social media yeah mary myers diary by the way her
00:42:15.160
diary has never been disclosed the best information was given to jim angleton but that's not clear um i'm
00:42:21.880
hoping when the kennedy papers come out that'll be one of them but my guess is they they destroyed
00:42:25.720
it i'll have you on it we'll tell the whole story about that so the audience gets it's an amazing
00:42:31.080
story records thank you brother i'll talk to you tonight i'd love to have you back on tomorrow to do
00:42:35.000
a post game on tulsi gabbard and uh cash patel thank you brother thanks interesting story we want to
00:42:42.200
see our next guest in fact when mary mary myers was actually i don't know murdered jogging on the
00:42:50.600
georgetown towpath in the middle of the day uh kind of cloudy who did it a guy was found guilty but
00:42:57.880
later i think they rescinded that very very questionable how how it happened uh they went to
00:43:03.160
mary myers artist uh kind of uh uh law not a loft but an artist uh place in um in in georgetown
00:43:12.520
ben bradley who was her brother-in-law got there and he's jack kennedy's friend when they
00:43:16.760
get into the when they get into the little artist house carriage house they looked and um
00:43:22.600
uh james uh jesus angleton was already there from the cia talk more about their life two great
00:43:29.960
guests george uh george papadopoulos and simona mangeni mangenti right there we get right right
00:43:37.240
here's the mic right great so hold it you guys are launching a major podcast today correct yes tell
00:43:44.280
us about global view why are you doing it papadopoulos you guys are in the film business you're in
00:43:48.280
la you're living the good life why would you get in the podcast business well we have been enough
00:43:54.280
the target and we have seen unfolding too much fake news you're an actress don't you know to hit
00:43:59.480
the mic yeah i know you're an actress in the podcast business very different you gotta it's
00:44:04.520
just to hide my accent hold it this is two convicts in a russian he and i are coming papadopoulos went
00:44:12.120
to jail too right for the russia it's for the whole russia hoax uh and you were you were accused of
00:44:17.320
being a russian spy and you're actually italian yes actually 100 italian and i've been following your
00:44:23.480
incredible uh career in italy when we come to shape our nationalist leader georgia meloni and
00:44:30.280
mateo salvinia and many others so you are very uh much appreciated by the nationalist people there
00:44:35.960
so how did how does rachel maddow in in shifty shift all the time on msmc referred to you as a
00:44:40.920
russian spy they're crazy i mean like literally they think my accent is russian i don't know if they
00:44:46.360
ever spoke to a russian person in their life and also you know it's kind of easy stereotype you know
00:44:51.720
you just take blonde hair so you know kind of light eyes and that's it so it's it's kind of a
00:44:56.280
busy that shows you how accurate they are in their investigations right they're really accurate and
00:45:00.680
they've been after your husband forever yeah and uh you know of course i jump you know i was happened
00:45:06.440
to be in his life right at the moment when he was involved in this russian investigation and they
00:45:11.880
taught to use me to fit that narrative so it was kind of an easy fit from their point of view because
00:45:17.400
they don't care about people they don't care about reputation they just care about
00:45:21.560
how to push their narrative more and more georgie let's get that mic right between you guys so
00:45:27.000
the the you were the first person correct me if i'm wrong you're the very first person the deep state
00:45:32.600
targeted in the entire uh resistance to trump and trying to shut trump down back in 2015 correct
00:45:40.280
in the spring of 2015 you were targeted right you were the very the whole thing starts from from you
00:45:45.880
being targeted no it's an incredible story steve and thanks a lot for having us by the way uh so i had
00:45:50.920
to actually work for dr ben carson's presidential campaign first and uh what i think was really
00:45:56.840
going on was that there was a operation targeting a lot of the leaders of the opposition against
00:46:02.840
hillary clinton and the uh third obama term so people like carson ted cruz and of course donald
00:46:08.680
trump's campaign were all targeted and this actually was revealed in um incredible reporting by
00:46:14.120
people like matt taibbi and uh shellenberger in the new york post so i was initially one of the first
00:46:20.040
targets i don't know if i was the first target but certainly they put their eyes on me not only
00:46:24.760
domestic intelligence but foreign intelligence and put together the biggest political spying
00:46:29.560
scandal in modern american history that we fought back against steve we won and now accountability is
00:46:34.680
coming okay we only got a couple of minutes i gotta get this straight you you went through hell
00:46:39.880
actually went to jail you went to hell they've tortured you and said you're russian spy they smeared
00:46:44.200
you they've done everything to you you guys do that you're finally in la you're in the movie business
00:46:48.920
you're enjoying life why do you come back and get the because the pot once you start in the podcast
00:46:54.200
business you're also now a target new target why do you all right why are you guys doing this it's a
00:46:59.320
way it's a comeback it's a way to deliver a real uh perspective on a narrative that been manipulated
00:47:05.960
by the so-called mainstream which i believe has no future moving forward i believe that trump victory
00:47:11.960
the second term will shape and change cultures and besides politics so americans already decided
00:47:19.240
where where they stand you know have been an overwhelming victory 80 million people decided
00:47:24.200
who they trust now it's time to put back the trust where it matters so free voices like yours
00:47:31.240
you'll be an inspiration in that by the way and you know being yes you used to be the target so it's not
00:47:36.600
going to be much so you guys are going to go off it's is principally the the and we're going to say
00:47:41.560
in a second where you get the podcast and where your social media is your target audience international
00:47:47.640
people who want to understand what's happening in america or is it america they want to have a broader
00:47:52.040
international perspective or is it both it's both and that's why we really wanted you to be our first
00:47:59.320
guest guest and uh it was an incredible a tremendous honor it's supposed to be 20 minutes
00:48:04.360
and went a little longer yes a lot of incredible uh information that we had well you guys ask great
00:48:11.240
questions and then you just wind me up and let me go so what is it is it is it more people
00:48:16.360
internationally want to know what's happening here and you add a perspective or do you think you bring
00:48:21.000
in guests and perspectives internationally that that people particularly the mega movement may not have
00:48:27.320
it's a both way and i believe for example at this time we have a populist movements raising all over
00:48:33.960
the world and specifically in europe as you well know because you advise the many nationalist leader
00:48:38.840
over there so understanding how politics are unfolding over there and how america with its new leader
00:48:47.160
donald trump will position and will influence their decision are those movements brexit happened before us
00:48:53.400
brexit was in june of 16 and i say it's always been the predicate for kind of the
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trump you could see what was happening are the movements there although they're not grabbing
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power in many of the governments but they're taking governments down are they more advanced than we are
00:49:07.000
or are they trailing us they keep having this tendency to follow american leadership and i think
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america leads and that's why it's very important to understand the impact united states have globally
00:49:18.600
that's why we call it global view and also the responsibility of america of european leaders
00:49:24.520
in to actually adopt a coherent strategy think about the war in ukraine uh that's i think a weight of
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responsibility and also uh leadership because america is still his the example my you know some of my
00:49:38.360
issues with maloney who i do think the world looks as you and i've talked she's got these tremendous
00:49:42.520
skills on the political stage is about the ukraine war right we just heard from jim workers where you
00:49:47.880
walked in here why they're going after tulsi demar is really her positions on the ukraine war that is a
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huge dividing thing between the america first movement and the establishment your assessment
00:49:57.240
right now because it's so important in italian politics of where's the perspective of europe right
00:50:02.520
now on the ukraine war well they're pretty much following the leadership of ursula underlain so
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the eu whatever it is if it can be considered a unity of any kind is uh implementing the socialist trend
00:50:16.200
that biden set so uh basically uh even our nationalist leader georgia medoni which i also
00:50:22.760
esteem a lot she followed biden lead on this topic and started to um you know vote for implementing
00:50:30.760
sanction to russia and sending uh our tax money uh obviously italian citizen tax money to ukraine and
00:50:37.240
military aid and all these kind of things so obviously i don't know how uh she will align right
00:50:43.720
now our policies to the new shift that finally is happening here we got to bounce uh where did they
00:50:50.200
get the show launches tonight where do people go to get the get your first episode we want to drive as
00:50:55.400
much traffic there as possible the show's uh starting launching tonight you are our first guest global
00:51:00.920
view you could find all the updates right now on our x account uh i'm at george papa 19 simona
00:51:08.040
yes simona mangiante but i think your is easier so i invite people to follow and there's a youtube
00:51:13.640
channel as well youtube and is this it's it's free this is free to download i want everybody's free
00:51:18.760
totally free content once again where do they go to get the first episode tonight grace chung we'll
00:51:22.520
push it out hard but where they go you can find it on youtube right now uh global view with
00:51:27.080
papadopoulos you just type that in it should come up and then on x at george papa 19 we'll be posting
00:51:31.880
uh segments on there moving forward is it going to be every week it's a weekly show or how you guys
00:51:36.840
going to start weekly absolutely it's going to be it's going to be weekly and we're expecting to
00:51:40.680
have both a domestic and international guests uh yes to put together uh house simona let's have a
00:51:45.240
big kickoff thank you guys thank you so much thanks for having me coming on okay we're going to be
00:51:49.480
back at 10 a.m eastern time tomorrow morning it's going to be wild tulsi gabbard cash patel bobby
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kennedy live from the capital see you tomorrow morning
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