On today's show, Stephen K. Bannon is joined by Mike Davis, former White House counsel to President Donald Trump, to talk about how the deep state is trying to delegitimize President Trump and his administration. They also talk about the FBI, USAID, DOJ, and other agencies that are being targeted by the Deep State.
00:01:26.000Walk me through first the FBI because there's a little resistance today.
00:01:28.760Driz, the interim guy, I think they're saying they're not going to cooperate.
00:01:33.160There's other guys not going to cooperate.
00:01:35.000Where do you stand with FBI first, USAID, and anything else in this kind of deconstruction of the deep state?
00:01:41.340Well, I think what the Democrats are learning is they made a very big mistake stealing the election in 2020 because we've had President Trump, when he ran in 2016, he had never run for office.
00:01:56.240He had never served in government in any capacity.
00:01:59.620His first job serving as a politician in government was as the president of the United States.
00:02:05.220And he did a lot of great things in his first term, but he made mistakes, including on personnel.
00:02:10.760And so he had four years in the White House.
00:02:13.320He had four years in Mar-a-Lago after the White House to reflect.
00:02:18.260And now he's come back to the White House.
00:02:20.300And plus people like Project 2025, Stephen Miller's American First Law, Brooke Rollins' American First Policy Institute, CRA under Mark Paoletta,
00:02:30.460and our favorite OMB director, which we'll talk about in a second, your former client, and others, to work through policy initiatives.
00:02:39.340Russ Vogt and these guys have worked through policy initiatives and put together teams for years.
00:02:44.800This is what you're seeing on Days of Thunder.
00:02:46.720This just didn't happen after November 5th.
00:02:48.940This has been highly thought through and kind of coordinated for a long time.
00:02:52.300Yeah, I mean, and so President Trump, as we all saw, was ready to govern on day one, on minute one.
00:07:58.900Like, it's bogus what they did to you guys, but you had the wherewithal to fight it.
00:08:03.360They are going after real Americans and real America, these January 6th supporters, where they destroyed their lives.
00:08:11.580These sadistic prosecutors in Washington, D.C., destroyed the lives of these January 6th protesters, destroyed the lives of their families.
00:08:20.680They targeted pro-life Christians, including putting a 75-year-old Christian in prison for praying at an abortion clinic,
00:08:29.160while this FBI gave amnesty to the much more deadly and destructive BLM and Antifa rioters.
00:08:36.040So, yeah, there's going to be accountability, and I don't give a damn if that makes the left uncomfortable.
00:08:42.380D.C. has already, I think, let go 30 prosecutors.
00:08:51.760Also, U.S. attorneys around the country, have they all left?
00:08:55.020And places like the Southern District, are they going in and cleaning out the rat's nest that some of these big U.S. attorney offices have become?
00:09:03.760So I would say to people like Tony Gonzalez, who was the U.S. attorney down in the Southern District of Florida in Miami,
00:09:12.240who green-lighted the unprecedented, unnecessary, and unlawful home raid on President Trump to get back his crossfire hurricane records to go through Melania's underwear drawer and Barron Trump's underwear drawer,
00:09:26.940I would say to Tony Gonzalez, right now you're an assistant U.S. attorney still in the Southern District of Florida.
00:09:35.200I would not be making long-term plans because I don't know what your next job is going to be.
00:09:41.460Either Gitmo or—what's the over-and-under?
00:10:11.560I remember, regardless of what statutes say passed by Congress, the president has Article II power under the Constitution of the United States to take care that laws are faithfully executed.
00:10:26.460And when you have agencies like USAID who are actively working against the president of the United States elected by the American people, the head of the executive branch, when these agencies like USAID are pushing an anti-American agenda, it is the president's constitutional duty to put a stop to that.
00:10:48.960I want to go back because you mentioned this now.
00:10:51.680This concept, the unitary theory of the executive, and your interpretation that people were in front of Trump is different than Cheney's about House.
00:11:00.100What your theory of the case is that, hey, inside the executive, he's the chief executive officer of the government.
00:11:06.680He is the commander-in-chief of the uniformed services, the military, and he's the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer in this government.
00:11:14.800You go back to the chief executive, and his point is that when he signs an executive order to kill the Green News scam and he sees that there's $300 billion there, they take this concept of impoundment to pay a letter and you have been working on.
00:11:32.780It is a statute, but he's the chief executive.
00:11:37.360If the program is gone, which he has the ability as an executive to do, and you've got this extra cash, or I guess maybe even that's controversial, but if you stop it or slow it down, it's got cash.
00:11:48.840In the impoundment thing, since the ceiling was $300 billion, but it's there, you can reach out and get it.
00:11:53.580Where do we stand with that right now, that part of the unitary theory?
00:11:56.300Well, that's part of the president's job under Article II of the Constitution is to take care that these funds are appropriately spent.
00:12:05.340So, for example, this is what got President Trump improperly impeached the first time, right?
00:12:11.240When Congress appropriates $100 billion, for example, to corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs, and the president says,
00:12:20.020we're going to hold off on sending them this money to make sure that this money is being appropriately spent, and it's in our national security interest.
00:12:30.320He has a constitutional right, a constitutional duty to do that under the take care clause.
00:12:36.440And so, but as you were saying, just because Congress says-
00:12:40.440Hang on, hang on, but don't leave that.
00:12:41.980Ladies and gentlemen, that's why this morning we brought up,
00:12:44.260Zelensky gives an interview to the Associated Press Sunday in Kyiv.
00:12:50.400He says, of the $178 billion, $79 billion that was supposed to come, it's actually $250 billion due, but $178 billion.
00:13:30.800Monaco, south of France, west end of London.
00:13:33.300I mean, I know there are a lot of Bidens, but geez, $100 billion to every Biden.
00:13:36.920So you're saying, and you're prepared, Article 3 and others, you're prepared to fight this, and President Trump and the government are prepared to fight this all the way up to the Supreme Court?
00:13:46.280Because this one's going to the Supreme Court, correct?
00:14:11.660Let's go to the second point, the uniformed services.
00:14:14.560They're all saying now he doesn't have the ability to recall Milley to active duty service and have Milley go under a uniformed code of military justice, a tribunal for treason given his actions in 2020.
00:14:28.180One is the pardon, let's put the pardon aside for a second, we'll talk about that for Milley, but they're saying Trump can't even do that.
00:14:40.160Well, first off, the question I have is, see, when Trump gave pardons to the Justice Department, because he wasn't cute about it, they executed on those pardons.
00:14:49.960It is Pam Bondi's Justice Department under Trump that has to execute the pardons.
00:14:54.420Isn't that – Tom Fitton and I said that's an open question.
00:14:59.000I mean, does he have the rights, if it's not a pardon, does he have the right to recall Milley to active duty and have him tried in a military tribunal?
00:15:09.940If there's no pardon, there's no question that he can't be.
00:15:26.180Milley told his Chinese counterpart that Milley would give his Chinese counterpart a heads up before President Trump launched a preemptive attack on China.
00:15:37.220That is very valuable information to our enemies, and it puts American soldiers and sailors and airmen in grave danger if our enemies know we're coming.
00:15:48.280So if that's not treason, I don't know what is treason.
00:16:40.980The American people elect a president of the United States who oversees the entire executive branch, including the Justice Department, and the FBI is part of the Justice Department.
00:16:55.640Ladies and gentlemen, of anything we're talking about on this show, anything, even money, this topic drives this city crazy because the whole city is lawyers, right?
00:17:05.220There are cities run by the big law firms and they're going back and forth.
00:17:09.320Everybody's got lawyers everywhere, general counsels, but every staff is full of lawyers.
00:17:13.800This is what drives them nuts because they've kind of been driving the deal here, right?
00:17:18.120The president really doesn't have any room because everything's lawyers, et cetera.
00:17:21.680This thing right here, knowing that Donald Trump is the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer and will use that power, actually, these people, they lose it.
00:17:32.920Yeah, I mean, remember, as they said to us, it's not possible that Joe Biden politicized and weaponized the Justice Department because we have checks on that.
00:17:41.920We have grand juries who have to bring indictments and we have federal judges who oversee these cases and that we have juries who decide innocence or guilt.
00:17:50.660So they had no problem when Joe Biden and his White House politicized and weaponized every level of justice in our country at the federal level, the state level, the local level.
00:18:01.420So they told us for four years it wasn't possible for the president to politicize and weaponize the justice system.
00:18:08.280I would say this President Trump has said he is not going to do that.
00:18:12.220He's going to have his attorney general and his FBI director have autonomy to make their own decisions.
00:18:18.460But the president of the United States, any president of the United States, has the absolute constitutional power under Article 2 to bring indictments if he wants to.
00:18:29.000So if Tom Fitton wanted me to bounce this one off you, he was on a week or so ago, and he says a special prosecutor ought to be named for all these things to really get into because the DOJ has got to do its own business.
00:18:42.200But he believes that special prosecutor should not be announced by Pam Bondi or the attorney general, that that should be announced by the White House, and the special prosecutor should report to the chief magistrate.
00:20:26.280The Article III project is working hand-in-glove with President Trump and his team at the White House and the Justice Department on these confirmations.
00:20:34.760I just got back from the Trump White House.
00:20:36.900I just met with the White House Counsel's Office to talk about judicial selection, U.S. attorney selection.
00:20:42.900All these – folks, you have to understand, 1,000 of the 4,000 total you get to run in the government have to be Senate-confirmed.
00:20:51.08050 percent of the time, the United States – I call it the Human Resources Department.
00:20:54.600And the founders of the Constitution wanted that.
00:20:56.640They wanted people to go through the Senate confirmation process.
00:21:00.660The lifetime appointments of judges, but then how serious U.S. attorneys are.
00:21:04.780Every federal judge, every Supreme Court justice, every U.S. attorney, right?
00:21:08.880And how many U.S. attorneys are there?
00:21:13.780Every – you know, you look at Justice, I think there's another 15 guys that get confirmed.
00:21:18.460The confirmation process is an industry over here, and it's brutal because people understand people are – personnel is policy, and that's where the Senate – tell us how tough the grind is over there.
00:21:29.320Well, it's brutal for Republican nominees because the Democrats play for keeps.
00:21:34.240It's not as brutal for Democrat nominees because Republicans tend to be whips, tend to be cowards.
00:21:40.780We saw this contrast what happened with, you know, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, where they accused him of being a serial gang rapist going back into his teenage years, even though he testified he was a virgin well into his 20s.
00:21:53.280So I'll try to put those two together.
00:21:55.660But contrast that with – they put people right out of, like, a Marxist indoctrination camp right onto the Supreme Court from the Democrat side with Ketanji Brown-Jackson, and, you know, she's going to sail through with 10 Republican votes until the Article III project teamed up with Bayonet's war room.
00:22:13.220She had a great – she had a great turn in the musical – was it Wicked or whatever?
00:22:44.040Where do you think we stand in the process?
00:22:45.520Well, I know that when President Trump nominated Pete Hegseth and Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard and some of the others, the very smart people in Washington said that their nominations were dead on arrival.
00:23:00.860And I said to President Trump, you send these nominations to the Senate, and the Article III Project will work with Bannon's war room, and we will get these people confirmed.
00:23:15.900When people went to article3project.org and take action, we've had a hundred – we've had – I'd have to get the latest numbers from Mark Lucas.
00:23:24.740She just gave us the numbers, overall numbers, and what Natalie said from the White House, literally we collectively melted down the Senate's phone line, everything they can't take anymore.
00:23:36.120We've had a hundred – we've had 160,000 phone calls and emails going into home state senators, not just Steve Bannon calling up, you know, Macy Hirono from Hawaii, calling your home state senators, which is the most effective thing you can do.
00:24:06.640Talk to the audience the difference – the Committee of Jurisdiction holds the hearing, and then the Committee of Jurisdiction has to vote it out to go to the Senate floor.
00:24:15.200Right now we're hanging in balance on Tulsi, Bobby, and cash, and really maybe not so much cash.
00:24:21.700But Tulsi, it's down to maybe one vote.
00:25:03.880Yes, and I keep saying that we are giving the Senate an attitude adjustment, and that's what really gets these senators upset.
00:25:12.360And they call and say that the article3project and Steve Bannon's war room are mean and it's counterproductive, but that means we're over the target.
00:25:19.560Isn't it pretty shocking that it takes – if you hadn't created article3 and we didn't have the war room posse, how – I mean, quite frankly, just knowing you and you got Kavanaugh done, we didn't have these things at the time.
00:25:31.540And that became evident to me, hey, you've got to have outside groups that can pound this thing.
00:25:36.440This is why I started the article3project because I led the Kavanaugh confirmation from the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I remember these outside conservative groups who are supposed to be so big and bad and mean ran for the hills, right?
00:25:50.140I was in Rome and I got a phone call, and I'm telling you, Brett Kavanaugh was 10 minutes away from getting yanked, dead in the water, right?
00:25:59.180And then a guy named Davis and some others weighed in there and say, no, just like when Gates, you can't – if you're going to show weakness like this, you're never going to get another one through.
00:26:06.680You're going to get their choices through, not your choices.
00:26:08.540You have to hunker down on these things.
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00:32:03.960Make us smart over the horizon because we're hitting a firestorm here because they're going to back up and say they're going to be dropping federal lawsuits everywhere.
00:32:11.080State Attorney General Letitia James, write this down, folks.
00:32:14.740She's going to be a big player because she's already thrown – and in New York, a lot of – so much stuff happens in New York.
00:32:21.720The trading desk of the Federal Reserve there, the Treasury is a big component there.
00:32:25.620So much goes through the world financial capital.
00:32:27.600Make us smart as we see the massive pushback that's coming because they're going to try to use the courts to stop Trump.
00:33:34.460Because they never mention that phrase.
00:33:36.500That's the phrase that comes right after.
00:33:37.800So the 14th Amendment, the birthright citizenship part of the 14th Amendment was enacted to overturn the Supreme Court's decision in Dred Scott, right?
00:33:48.820Is to give freed slaves citizenship and children.
00:33:52.460And in the middle, we kind of had a war about that, right?
00:33:59.420We have a Supreme Court case from about 100 years ago, Chinese exclusion case, where if you are a lawful, permanent resident of the United States, you've shown loyalty to the United States and you intend to stay in the United States permanently, then your kids get birthright citizenship under the Supreme Court precedent.
00:34:24.420But the issue is that you do not have birthright citizenship for, for example, foreign ambassadors when they come to the United States and have kids.
00:34:33.120You do not have birthright citizenship if you are invading America.
00:34:37.760So if you have illegal immigrants invading the United States, why the hell should their kids get rewarded with birthright citizenship?
00:34:49.260Subject to the jurisdiction of the United States is part of the 14th Amendment.
00:34:54.080If you are an illegal immigrant who has invaded our country, for example, if you're a vicious Venezuelan gang member or you're a Mexican cartel member and you have a kid in the United States, should that kid have birthright citizenship?
00:35:46.900He has to make an independent assessment.
00:35:48.660And that's what he's doing with his executive order.
00:35:51.640He's telling federal agencies that, no, we should not just give birthright citizenship, for example, to forward invaders who are having children in the United States.
00:36:08.600Next year in the Supreme Court or later?
00:36:10.020It could come up sooner than that because you could see liberal courts around the country issuing injunctions, and then this comes up on the emergency docket to the Supreme Court pretty fast.
00:36:22.980This is where, as we were discussing earlier, not only do we have to have the law rights, we have to have the politics right.
00:36:28.780And that's why I did this Federalist piece today.
00:36:31.540This is why we're really ramping up this discussion because we're going to lose our sovereignty as a nation if we let illegal immigrants flood into our country and get the gift of citizenship.
00:36:44.980And so, Grace, if you can put that article up, Mike Davis is in the Federalist.
00:36:53.500Did we do a—Elizabeth Warren sounded the toxins at about midnight on the 5th before the 6th, and she says, everybody back to D.C., we've lost this thing.
00:37:35.000Look, we're the biggest critics in the world.
00:37:36.660But on judges, McConnell's always been on point, right?
00:37:39.440He was very good on judges in President Trump's first term, and I worked very closely with him on judges as the chief counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee for Chairman Chuck Grassley.
00:37:49.440I had to work with McConnell, and we worked very well on judges.
00:37:53.280We broke every piece of China in the Senate.
00:37:55.840We set up a conveyor belt, and we confirmed a near-record number of Trump judges.
00:38:00.200Why did we fail in this effort to stop as many judges?
00:38:07.640Because Senate Republicans are weak and stupid, and unless you keep constant pressure on them, they're going to revert to being weak and stupid.
00:38:39.820President Trump's biggest and most consequential accomplishment of his first term was the appointment of Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett,
00:38:48.840even though they'll disappoint us from time to time.
00:38:51.200We have the first constitutionalist majority on the Supreme Court in 90 years,
00:38:54.840and President Trump also transformed a majority of the critically important federal courts of appeals to Republican-majority appointed for the first time in 90 years, right?
00:39:16.820Yes, they take less than a hundred a year.
00:39:18.260How about the front—particularly Gorsuch's is the deconstruction of the administrative state, his amazing thing on Chevron, the Chevron deference.
00:39:25.240Now that we have Elon and OMB, and this is a thing in both legislation and the executive branch, those frontline judges, federal judges,
00:39:33.160how does it look from Mike Davis's perspective as we kick off the first year of President Trump's second term?
00:39:39.480Well, look, President Trump's judges are bold and fearless.
00:39:43.580This time we're going to have even more bold.
00:39:46.040We're going to have even more fearless judges.
00:39:48.100We have the Article III project teaming up to help President Trump pick his judges.
00:41:01.900If we didn't have Article III, I'm telling you, the whole thing would have been totally different.
00:41:04.980This is a guy that's focused on this process, focused on confirmation process, selecting judges, getting judges through, not just Supreme Court, but the front line, the federal judges, the appeals court, and understands the confirmation process.
00:41:18.400We never had that before, and now we got it, and this is why it's shaping up to be something totally different.
00:41:23.520I want to pivot, and I got Roy from the new federal state of China.
00:41:26.500Roy, thank you so much for joining us.
00:41:27.940We had an article in the Financial Times a week ago that I wanted you to come on about the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, is building one of the biggest, if not the biggest, military headquarters right there, accessible to the political elites in Beijing.
00:41:44.440At the same time that President Trump's putting a 10 percent tariff on them, and Xi is not happy.
00:41:52.540The more toxins are sounding up, potentially, Taiwan.
00:41:58.580Where's the Chinese Communist Party in relation to the United States where you got Rubio's a hawk?
00:42:03.580He's down in Panama saying, one belt, one road's over.
00:42:06.420The Panamanian president comes out and says, one belt, one road's over.
00:42:09.720America's going to basically run the Panama Canal, so we're going to cut the Chinese Navy off.
00:42:13.760They're building a massive, massive, like, 5X Pentagon.
00:42:17.280At the same time, President Trump slapped him with 10 percent tariffs and told Mexico and Canada, we're going to break your economies if you don't stop the chemical warfare assault of fentanyl killing 100,000 Americans a year.
00:42:52.260We saw what the CCP has been doing with the BRICS to destroy the U.S. dollar supremacy and to form those alliances.
00:43:03.160And also the second is information wall.
00:43:05.720We saw what happened with the deep seek, with TikTok we're going to talk later about.
00:43:10.900And then the last is military ramp up.
00:43:13.900And now we saw what was happening is the CCP is having this total war redness against the United States.
00:43:20.580And remember, Miles Kuo has been talking about this for years.
00:43:22.880In 2019, he blew the whistle on what's happening in the western Beijing, in Phoenix Mountain, around like Xishan Mountain, all these areas in western Beijing.
00:43:54.800There were, like, tens of thousands of people at least we know, like hundreds of thousands, actually, soldiers monitoring the devices, American civilians.
00:44:04.120And as we speak, they're still doing that.
00:44:07.080And I think this is a sign that the CCP has been preparing and that they're already ready to wage war against the United States.
00:44:57.780Just on Miles, I want to go back and do a slight reset here.
00:45:00.920Miles Guo told us in 2019, Lighthizer and Navarro, after working a year and a half with us, actually sat down and negotiated with Li He a deal that took care of the seven original sins of kind of the Chinese Communist Party's economics and really brought them in, infused them into the Western model.
00:45:21.940Right? No more state-owned industries.
00:45:24.020Every issue they had had about overcapacity, about, you know, terrible wages for a Lao-Bai-Jing environment.
00:45:30.740These guys had worked with President Trump and negotiated this huge deal over 18 months.
00:45:36.640Xi and Putin had the first One Belt, One Road conference.
00:45:41.900And after that conference, Wang Shishan, and Miles was dead on, said, hey, they had a change of heart and said, hey, if we sign this deal with Trump,
00:45:49.160that's going to sublimate us to the West forever.
00:45:54.200With this, we've figured out what these guys want to do.
00:45:58.100Right after that, Xi declared a people's war, a people's war against the United States.
00:46:02.860And this is why unrestricted warfare has ramped up.
00:46:05.480And as I keep saying on the show, the CCP is at war with the United States.
00:46:10.020They're using unrestricted warfare, economic warfare, political warfare, psychological warfare, information warfare, all of it.
00:46:17.280Right? And this is why you had these massive cyber attacks.
00:46:20.220And this is why now they're – although they started the military buildup a couple years ago, the headquarters building up.
00:46:25.820This is why the assault on the U.S. dollar.
00:46:28.140This is one of the reasons President Trump is coming in with these tariffs because he's telling them, hey, you guys are – you're really the problem with the fentanyl.
00:46:34.560It's a chemical warfare attack on the United States of America.
00:46:38.240What do you think we have to do, Roy, to raise awareness of the American people?
00:46:46.040The CCP – people know that it's the CCP and not the Chinese people.
00:46:49.900That's one of the biggest things we may be able to do is drive a wedge between that.
00:46:54.180But for people to understand unrestricted warfare, what do you think we could do or do better?
00:47:01.200Well, first of all, we need to let people understand that the CCP consists of a group of people, a group of gangs, right?
00:47:09.120Like, only less than 100 people with, like, five red dynastic families that control 99.9 percent of the resources, of the money, of the power of China.
00:47:19.820And they are not the legitimate government of the Chinese people.
00:47:23.760And the Chinese people detest the regime.
00:47:26.900As long as the United States stop the support and decouple from the CCP militarily, financially, and technologically, I think the Chinese people are going to – it's going to implode on itself.
00:47:40.920And we – I think the – you talk about the federal democratic republic.
00:47:47.340It's going to be established, and we're going to bring the freedom to the Chinese people.
00:47:52.080And people need to understand they are not the legitimate representation of the Chinese people, and they are not working in the best interest of Chinese people.
00:48:00.100A lot of people are talking about President Trump being working on the best interest of the American people, but not the CCP.
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