Stephen K. Bannon is back in the War Room talking about the latest in the Ukraine crisis, the latest on the Iran deal, and much, much more. Plus, a special St Valentine's Day edition of the show.
00:01:26.740Number one, and some you're going to like, and some you're going to like less.
00:01:31.840So all this discussion, Scott Bessent, as you know, a friend of the show, one of our contributors for a couple of years, now Secretary of the Treasury.
00:01:39.440Scott was over there and sent over about, I don't know, a minerals deal.
00:01:46.000As you know, the position of the War Room is cut bait.
00:01:50.220You know, I'd even forego the inquiry into how much money they stole just to get the hell out of there.
00:02:10.420But anyways, this discussion about, you know, because President Trump in Iraq and other places is saying, hey, look, if you put all this money in, all this time in, you know, at least it ought to be secured by something.
00:02:20.620So they've been discussing these minerals.
00:03:15.280It's tough to do, but you have to do that in finance.
00:03:17.320You have to do that in decision-making analysis.
00:03:19.700Otherwise, you're always making that incremental play to stay around.
00:03:22.860This is what Afghanistan and Iraq got.
00:03:25.740Is this how you get into Afghanistan for 20 years?
00:03:28.160And even worse or better, however you look at it, Zelensky's chapped that Trump has been talking to Putin and hasn't even considered it like that big a deal that Ukraine's involved in any of this, to be brutally frank.
00:03:48.740And yesterday, the European Union, they sent, all these guys were sending these declarations, these proclamations signed by these people.
00:03:54.940Zelensky has to be the only guy at the table or the EU should be at the table.
00:03:58.160But Zelensky should be at the head of the table with Putin and Trump.
00:04:10.880He's calling and speaking for an hour and a half.
00:04:14.380President Trump does not talk on the phone to individuals for an hour and a half unless he's got something to talk about and something he wants to listen to.
00:05:57.920Now, a country we do care about and a leader we do care about is Brazil.
00:06:05.700I want to bring in Paulo Fiergo Filho, a close associate with the Bolsonaro's, particularly the president Bolsonaro and Eduardo and a great friend of the show and a personal friend of mine.
00:06:21.140I've been very disturbed, brother, about what's going on in Brazil and what I hear is going on in Brazil through my vast back channel.
00:06:28.340I've been wanting to have you on, but I want to wait until it broke into the media because I didn't want, for security reasons and others, to kind of jump this story.
00:06:37.700But now that's out in the Brazilian media, they are reporting that the Marxist Lula and the corrupt, that corrupt, insane judge, the Supreme Court judge and the prosecutor.
00:06:51.700By the way, these guys there are beyond the Tish James level.
00:07:04.400And that tells you, in Bannon's pantheon, when you're above that, you're in with the Nazi judges.
00:07:09.860They are working on, according to Brazilian media, sir, I guess a 26-count indictment, some sort of indictment on President Bolsonaro tied to the Lula and these guys stealing the last election.
00:07:26.720And they're about to indict him for, what, insurrection and treason?
00:07:38.740They say that Bolsonaro—but Brazil had an episode very similar to the United States January 6.
00:07:45.260Brazil had almost the exact same thing on January 8, 2023, with a few differences.
00:07:54.980Bolsonaro was not the president anymore on January 8, 2023, and people stormed the capital, the palace where Lula works.
00:08:08.100But no one was there because it was a Sunday.
00:08:11.080And Bolsonaro was actually here in the United States, in Orlando, on vacation.
00:08:16.800So they're saying that Bolsonaro staged an attempt of coup d'etat, and he was behind it all the time.
00:08:22.740It's very, very similar to the narrative of Trump being behind the insurrection on January 6, but it was January 8, 2023, and it was Bolsonaro behind it.
00:08:35.840They're actually—I'm part of the people being indicted, too.
00:08:39.680My role as a journalist is because I pretty much reported on what was going on on the behind-the-scenes of the meetings of the Joint Chiefs that were deciding what to do with Moraes, because clearly Moraes, which is the Supreme Court justice, the same guy that Elon Musk had the feud with, Moraes was totally out of control and rigged the 2022 election.
00:09:05.420So the Joint Chiefs were deciding, well, what do we do with him?
00:09:08.400He's actually doing a real coup, and they decided ultimately not to do anything.
00:09:15.520But because I reported that, they said I was inciting insurrections, so they indicted me, too.
00:09:22.700We're part of more than 40 people being indicted on this case, and the indictment should be coming out, the final report.
00:09:30.700We have the initial police report that was released in mid-December, but the actual indictment, the chargers, are being presented, according to the Brazilian media, sometime next week, probably next Friday, according to my sources within the attorney general's office.
00:09:50.260So the bottom line is, former President Bolsonaro should be indicted for a supposed coup d'etat in Brazil in 2023 by next Friday.
00:10:03.460With that, a lot of people speculate they might issue a preemptive arrest warrant claiming that he represents a flight risk.
00:10:12.420They already used that argument, stopping Bolsonaro to attend Donald Trump's inauguration.
00:10:18.380Remember, Steve, former President Bolsonaro was among the very few leaders that Donald Trump invited himself personally to attend the inauguration, but he couldn't actually come to the United States because Mariah said he represented a flight risk, so he denied to give his passport so he could travel.
00:10:40.880Well, no, because the new federal state of China in War Room and Jack Posobiec in Human Events Daily and Rahim Kassam in National Pulse, we threw a huge brunch, international brunch that Sunday morning with Bolsonaro as the guest of honor.
00:10:58.560As soon as soon as we heard about the invitation, we set the whole thing up, and we had hundreds from Alternative, from Deutschland to the Reform Party in England, Orbán's team, Italy, all over the world showed up.
00:11:13.260The only thing missing was our guest of honor because they wouldn't allow him to come to the inauguration after being invited by President Trump.
00:11:23.960I was there, attended by several people.
00:11:26.460His son, the congressman Eduardo Bolsonaro, was there.
00:11:30.320The interesting thing, Steve, is that this is happening at the same time, very much like in the United States, former President Bolsonaro is leading all the polls for the election, upcoming election next year in Brazil.
00:11:45.400Brazil is holding election against next year, and Bolsonaro is leading all the polls today.
00:11:51.100A new poll just came out from a very leftist institute in Brazil.
00:11:56.300I'm talking about that would be like an equivalent of a Quinnipiac or, I don't know, a morning consult poll in the United States.
00:12:03.400This polling institute, very leftist in Brazil, just released.
00:12:07.900Lula's approval number is now on around 25 percent, and his disapproval rate skyrocketed.
00:12:18.140His approval rate went down 11 points since the last poll a month ago.
00:12:22.860So the country is in pretty bad shape, inflation, public deficit, the real, the Brazilian real, which is the currency there, was the most evaluated currency on the planet in 2024.
00:12:36.940So and people are seeing Donald Trump in the United States being very successful, and they're wondering what's going to happen to us.
00:12:48.620They're going to try to do the same thing that they tried to do in the United States, but they were not successful, which is using the courts and the lawfare to stop Bolsonaro from running.
00:13:02.420Real quickly, just give a one or two minute summary, because you are one of the ones that you're, you know, you're the equivalent of kind of me with President Trump.
00:13:11.920You're identified as a colleague and a senior advisor, and you're going to get indicted, too.
00:13:16.560Walk me through just a minute or two to refresh the audience, because a couple of years ago we were covering it every day on the show, but the audience has expanded so much.
00:13:25.820What actually happened, and what are they charging, what actually happened, and what are they saying happened to actually charge you with a coup d'etat?
00:13:35.040So what actually happened was that Brazil has a system that's a electoral system that's a little bit different from the United States.
00:13:43.720It's what the Democrats wish the American system was.
00:13:47.300First of all, it's fully federalized, fully centralized under one court that runs the show.
00:15:02.240They tried—Bolsonaro's party tried to file lawsuits, but very similar to the United States, the courts presided by the same just didn't hear the case.
00:15:12.780So, and then finally, ultimately, Brazil had an episode that was very similar to the January 6th of the United States, but it was January 8th.
00:15:46.160I'm sure this sounds very familiar because it's exactly what happened in the United States, but two years later.
00:15:51.540And the reason why that was so familiar is that we found out, and now it's becoming very public, that the same agents that did that in the United States did that to Brazil.
00:16:00.800The same deep state blob people from the Department of State did that to Brazil.
00:16:05.900So, all the campaign to censor conservatives, to arrest them, all of that was financed by USAID, we're learning that, in Brazil.
00:16:16.300So, the reason why it's so similar is because it was the same people behind it and the same ideology behind it, and they decided to use that as an excuse to charge Bolsonaro.
00:16:28.240They made him ineligible to run again.
00:16:32.540Well, the difference is that prisons in Brazil are not the safest place on ours, so let me tell you this.
00:16:39.840So, there's a big chance that Bolsonaro has a good reason to think that if he gets in prison, he will be assassinated in the prison.
00:16:51.200So, with that, all the path to China is going to be open in the second largest country in our continent after the United States.
00:17:01.460It's the most important country in the southern hemisphere, the sixth largest population in the world, producer of iron, food, energy, whatever you want.
00:17:11.820It's a very strategic country for China.
00:17:14.320And since Lula took office two years ago, China is taking over completely.
00:17:19.560So, the United States was the number one trading partner of Brazil for over 200 years.
00:17:24.860During Lula's first tenure, China became number one and the U.S. became number two.
00:17:30.140The commerce with China skyrocketed with the U.S. started going down.
00:17:36.240And now that Lula is back, Chinese companies are purchasing every single piece of infrastructure in Brazil.
00:17:42.660So, just to give you an example, and I can throw you 100 of them, but a big one is that a month ago, Chinese purchased the largest uranium reserve in Brazil in the middle of the Amazon forest for almost nothing.
00:17:57.380And they did that while Joe Biden was still the president, and the U.S. did nothing about it.
00:18:02.120So, talk about a national security risk, a global risk.
00:18:05.400Well, I think a huge uranium reserve on the hands of China is probably worse than the Panama Canal.
00:18:21.280We're at DEFCON, let's say, two or three right now in Brazil.
00:18:26.380No, the great leader, the Trump of the tropics, Colonel Bolsonaro, Captain Bolsonaro, the president looks like he may be indicted for coup d'etat from the stolen election last time, where they really just stood up for the rights of the Brazilian people.
00:18:44.360Lula's a very dangerous guy, a very bad guy, but he pales in comparison to the Supreme Court justice you have and these prosecutors, their next level.
00:18:52.260Until tomorrow, where do people go on social media?
00:18:54.740I know you're keeping the story up 24-7 because it is one of the most important things happening in the world.
00:19:02.480If they indict Bolsonaro and put him in prison, they're putting him in prison not because it's a flight risk, because they want him assassinated in prison.
00:19:11.840The hemispheric defense that President Trump is talking about, we have a major problem if the Bolsonaro's and what they stand for, their movement, is not back in charge in Brazil.
00:19:22.220Lula is a partner of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:19:25.860And as Paulo just told us, they've got it in buying everything in sight.
00:19:31.240And you have to keep the CCP out of the Amazon.
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00:31:44.120I'm going to come back to you in a second, Brian.
00:31:46.200Because what Brian Festa just laid out is literally the worst possible night.
00:31:50.560That's the nightmare scenario for the Health and Human Services confirmation panel, Democratic side, and half of the Republicans for Bobby Kennedy.
00:32:07.860Why is the mainstream media suppressing this?
00:32:11.320Walk me through this, because you've been fighting on this one ever since you came on the show.
00:32:16.020Yeah, it's another big victory for the posse, I have to say.
00:32:19.580I mean, the posse's just racking up the victories.
00:32:23.360Well, you know, RFK Jr. literally just started his job, and the president is signaling that he's behind some of the key elements of the agenda that made RFK Jr. so threatening to the establishment and the pharma-funded establishment.
00:32:41.880So, you know, as Mr. Festa pointed out, it's an executive order to defund educational organizations, and there are not none of them left.
00:32:52.700There are 15 colleges and universities.
00:32:55.160There's still, to this day, 20, 25, mandating students to get the latest COVID booster.
00:33:02.560I mean, they are killing these kids slowly, or not so slowly, and these are, like, serious colleges.
00:33:09.460They include colleges like Spelman, Morehouse, the historic black colleges, USF, Oberlin, Bryn Mawr, Haverford, Swarthmore.
00:33:18.120You know, universities that definitely should know better, but they got the money to inject their students.
00:33:24.540So it's a powerful signal from the president.
00:33:27.840And it's also another important effect is all of these universities and schools and even the high schools pushed and pushed this vaccine on kids and young adults because of the money that they were getting from the federal government through the CARES Act, through, you know, vast sums of money to mandate children.
00:33:52.520And, I mean, I went to a high school meeting in upstate New York where high school students were not allowed to play basketball unless they were vaccinated, and there was literally nothing in the law that said that even.
00:34:06.040It's just that the schools were getting such buckets of money, millions of dollars, to traffic the kids' bodies, essentially, for pharma.
00:34:13.200So what this does, in addition to protecting those students at those universities that still mandate this injection, it also kind of signals, it kind of undoes the poison of all of these millions flowing to trafficking kids.
00:34:33.100And I think it's a shot across the bow of the pharmaceutical industry.
00:34:36.940I recognize that President Trump can't go in, you know, guns blazing to do everything that we in the medical freedom movement think that he should do.
00:34:50.200However, it is a very dramatic gesture toward, like, indicating if he can do this executive order, he can do an executive order with the next insane injection that they try to mandate.
00:35:03.000So it's, I see his method, you know, three weeks in, he rattles the cages, he scares everyone to death, and then they back off.
00:35:11.620So it's not the end of the monster of out-of-control pharma, but it's a crack of the whip in the direction of the monster.
00:35:21.880And the last thing I want to say is, I think it's also incredibly symbolic in relationship to parents' rights.
00:35:28.740And President Trump has said, you know, the White House has messaged that this is about parents' rights, which is smart.
00:35:38.060You know, it makes it more difficult for the legacy media or Democrats in Congress to say, you know, you're a lunatic anti-vaxxer, President Trump,
00:35:49.800because he's wrapping it in the mantle of parents get to decide, school doesn't get to decide, the state doesn't get to decide what goes into your child's body.
00:36:04.300Brian, to follow up on that, you're part of this parents' rights movement, given that this is a pretty big leap for President Trump,
00:36:15.920particularly the day after Bobby Kennedy's sworn in, in the Oval Office with President Trump observing that.
00:36:24.780As a member of the parents' rights movement with a vaccine-injured child, what is the next step?
00:36:30.880Where do you guys want to see this fight taken?
00:36:34.300Well, it has to be taken to the states, and unfortunately, that's not something that President Trump and Bobby Kennedy can do by themselves, right?
00:36:44.280As an attorney, I know, and I think, I hope most Americans know, that the states reserve powers that are not as explicitly, expressly granted to the federal government by the Constitution.
00:36:58.900That's the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, right?
00:37:01.780So, the states can still have their own mandates, and yes, he can pull federal funding, but that's even questionable because Congress holds most of the purse strings when it comes to taxing and spending power, funding agencies like the Department of Education.
00:37:17.020That's Congress's domain, that's not really the executive branch, so it gets very murky here, whether these executive orders are even going to stand.
00:37:25.620Do I think it's great that he's doing this?
00:37:57.480He wants them studied, but he wants them to be available for everyone.
00:38:01.140He just doesn't want them forced on the American people.
00:38:04.640So, Hawaii, meanwhile, the very blue state of Hawaii, just last week, passed in their public health committee a bill to eliminate religious exemptions to mandatory school vaccinations,
00:38:16.220a bill that has already passed in states like California, New York, Connecticut, and Maine.
00:38:22.440Those are the four states that currently don't have religious exemptions.
00:38:27.660And don't be surprised if Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, states like that start falling in this line of these are the bad dominoes,
00:38:35.980and start eliminating religious exemptions to school vaccinations.
00:38:38.940Suddenly, the CDC, who they've always hailed, people like Attorney General William Tong in my former home state of Connecticut,
00:38:46.160who has always looked to the CDC as the authority.
00:38:49.700We must follow what the CDC says, their recommendations.
00:38:53.900Don't be surprised if all of a sudden, now that Bobby Kennedy is at the helm, because as you know, HHS oversees the CDC.
00:39:01.080Don't be surprised if now they're going to say, we can't trust the CDC.
00:39:04.040We can't trust the FDA, and now we have to trust our state public health officials, which in states like Connecticut and in California, New York,
00:39:11.000are not going to be saying vaccines should not be mandated.
00:39:17.780Naomi, do you see it playing out that way?
00:39:19.800Is that the sophisticated move that the tyrants are going to pull?
00:39:24.280I definitely see Mr. Festus' point, absolutely.
00:39:30.520And, you know, I live in one of the states where parents, whom I know, have a difficult time trying to get a religious exemption for their high school students.
00:39:59.380And I don't even understand how the Constitution lets a state withdraw religious exemptions because we have freedom of religion.
00:40:06.640And that's guaranteed by the Constitution, so I don't understand how those four states have managed to have those carve-outs.
00:40:16.660But even states that ostensibly give religious exemptions, they can make it very, very difficult.
00:40:22.580I mean, I remember during COVID, COVID, during COVID, many people were trying to get religious exemptions from many institutions.
00:40:30.720And it was just a nauseating, heartbreaking drama because they were writing these heartfelt statements about how they feel, you know, from a religious perspective.
00:40:42.740And, you know, functionaries were just rubber stamping, no, no, no, no.
00:40:46.700And at Yale, in 2023, my alma mater, they were forcing the students to get the booster, which had been tested on eight mice, the bivalent booster, and they exempted the faculty and the administrators.
00:41:03.560But students trying to get religious exemptions, and their press said, oh, it's fine, we give religious exemptions.
00:41:10.540But none of the parents, I heard, had been able to secure them.
00:41:14.420I knew, I remember, I remember when you were up there, we were covering that live, when you couldn't re-register, you couldn't go back to school.
00:41:21.540You got in this Ivy League school, regardless of where the grades, you didn't get the shot, you had to leave, correct?
00:41:58.140You never like to cede power to anybody because you think power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts, absolute power corrupts.
00:42:04.120Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
00:42:09.640You've had a big problem with Elon Musk, as we have here, but you've taken it a couple of notches above.
00:42:15.180Don't you need Doge and Elon Musk to get into to break the cartel inside of CDC and NIH and Collins?
00:42:25.780I mean, is Bobby Kennedy, even as head of HHS, is he really going to be able to get into the guts of that thing the way that is a closed shop?
00:42:34.960Doesn't it almost take a radical disruptor like like an Elon Musk to do it that could do more, do it quicker, do it more radically and leave and leave more trauma on these institutions, which they need in order to open them up?
00:42:52.740Then even a Bobby Kennedy, who's kind of a little bit been boxed, and that's what the confirmation hearings are for.
00:42:59.000If they can't defeat him, to smear him enough and to box him into a corner to kind of limit what he can do, because they come back and said, well, you promised you weren't going to do that.
00:43:07.380Don't you actually need an Elon Musk type on this or do you not, ma'am?
00:43:25.280I wrote an essay pointing out how very, very worried I am about the way it's not it's not that Elon Musk shouldn't get in there and root out corruption and advise the president about what he thinks should be cut.
00:43:40.920You know, what is malfeasance, what is fraud, what is waste?
00:43:48.140And other people, other special advisors to the president have had similar roles.
00:43:52.900And sure, being a technologist theoretically lets him get through those data sets more quickly.
00:44:00.520But I'm a CEO of a tech company and my company deals with government data sets and APIs exactly like the content that Elon Musk is looking at.
00:44:09.960And I know and I showed in my essay that what's really scary isn't that he went in there and reviewed it.
00:44:17.460It's the way he did it without basic cybersecurity precautions in such a way that the data could be changed.
00:44:32.220There were not clear conflict of interest resolutions that came back to bite them.
00:44:36.660You know, just today, as it as I believe the White House pulled back against a four hundred million dollar sale of defense equipment with Tesla.
00:44:49.440There there are NDAs as CEO of a company.
00:44:52.340I don't understand how Musk can have be CEO or lead six companies.
00:44:56.440And, you know, the cloud computing guy can have a cloud computing company and there's no conflict of interest.
00:45:02.820Like the data sets are so vast, Steve, that they're looking at.
00:45:07.240And the allegiances that they owe to their own shareholders are so immense that there is no way, you know, with I believe the president has the best intentions.
00:45:16.960But you can't know that there are no conflicts of interest.
00:45:19.600But really, the cybersecurity issues, which many independent, nonpartisan cybersecurity publications were horrified about, are what really scare me.
00:45:30.980And lastly, I really want people to realize that AI isn't neutral.
00:45:35.360You know, if if if if the government is pared down by Elon Musk and handed over to Elon Musk's AI, right, not our AI, it could mean that there's no one to there's no accountability.
00:45:48.880There's no one to sue if your rights are violated.
00:45:51.640You know, if AI censors you, you can't who who are you going to go to court against?
00:45:57.200Right. I mean, the the theft of the how can I put it?
00:46:01.960Absorption of all of our personal sensitive data, it could could have been out the door during that weekend in which Elon Musk and his six very young engineers were.
00:46:12.940So if you had so if you're if you're faced with a stark choice to let Doge go in and take a blunt force instrument to NIH, Dr.
00:46:22.980Collins, all of them that cabal or just to pass because you are concerned about privacy issues and data and all the things you just laid out.
00:46:50.780The choice is to do it legally and securely.
00:46:54.320And that's better for the president, too, because then it's not going to be undone by the courts.
00:46:58.960I mean, those people who tried to stop Elon Musk from going in without normal cybersecurity oversight, they were doing their jobs for the American people.
00:47:11.220Everyone loves to hate the government, but do it securely.
00:47:20.060Do it with NDAs, which we don't know if they've signed.
00:47:22.940Do it with non-competes, which we don't.
00:47:24.440You don't you don't believe that you don't believe that although the guys at Treasury are trying to stop getting maybe potential personal information.
00:47:31.460You don't believe that was just the deep state in the administrative state protecting themselves from someone who was going to expose their corruption, ma'am?
00:47:40.280Um, I can't know until there's an investigation.
00:47:44.240But I do know that normal cybersecurity steps were not taken from what I read.