Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 718： Hegseth Responds To War Threats From China Against The US

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:20.580 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:24.540 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:30.160 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:32.140 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:33.540 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:36.200 It's going to happen.

00:00:37.460 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:40.860 MAGA media.

00:00:42.260 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:47.580 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:50.760 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:57.800 War Room.

00:00:58.580 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:01:00.680 Bannon.

00:01:07.140 Wednesday, 5 March, Year of Our Lord, 2025.

00:01:09.920 Thank you for being here for the second hour of the War Room.

00:01:11.740 A lot going on.

00:01:12.480 So the White House on fire with activity today on many different fronts.

00:01:17.300 Elon Musk is about to appear up at the Republican conference on Capitol Hill.

00:01:22.760 He was at the Senate today at the Senate lunch, the weekly Senate lunch.

00:01:27.500 Not a lot of specifics.

00:01:29.300 They talked about Doge, but look, some people are getting hung up now because it looks like a consensus is building around a CR instead of for the rest of the year.

00:01:37.780 Instead of doing, you know, instead of doing, you know, a 30-day CR, get the appropriations bills done, or wait and make sure that if you do it, you cut spending by 1%, which is not much.

00:01:51.900 But they're trying to avoid that by doing this end-of-year CR, and they want a clean CR.

00:01:56.580 But people are asking the question, hey, how can we have all these Doge, George Brown, it's a trillion dollars here, it's a trillion dollars here, it's a hundred billion dollars here, it's a hundred billion dollars here.

00:02:05.040 Yo, dude, we can't, you know, you do a CR, it's an up or down vote.

00:02:10.540 So we can't finance it. 0.97

00:02:11.980 It's ridiculous.

00:02:13.900 So what they're talking about now is rescissions or impoundments, that's all fine.

00:02:17.660 I love all those, and I think I'm a huge supporter of that.

00:02:20.180 I think you have to be aggressive.

00:02:21.120 But you're going to get taken to the Supreme Court right away, we know this, and last night, after the, you know, the speech, the Supreme Court had a very small ruling, kind of sentence, I shouldn't say small, on MSNBC and CNN, it's like it's the end of the Trump agenda.

00:02:41.060 It's far from it, but the Supreme Court did not really put in the emergency docket and didn't say, hey, we're going to go see this.

00:02:47.320 They sent it back to the judge to be more specific, and Natalie Winters from the White House, Mike Davis was pretty adamant, and he's close to these things, as you know.

00:02:57.060 He said, hey, President Trump ain't writing a check for anything.

00:03:01.140 I think this order is for $2 billion or something at USAID, and he's just saying, hey, not on my watch.

00:03:07.040 They're going to go back and argue.

00:03:07.840 Give us an update on this turmoil about spending, spending cuts, budget, CR, and particularly the Supreme Court of these United States kind of stepping in the middle here, ma'am.

00:03:19.840 Sure. Well, I think it's important to note that the Democrats are really eager to make this one decision seem like some huge sweeping victory for them.

00:03:29.100 Maybe it's, we'll call it a coping tactic, after last night.

00:03:32.900 But I think, like Mike was sort of alluding to, this is some process that we're going to have to let play out through the courts.

00:03:38.940 What do I mean by that?

00:03:39.960 It's not that this decision necessarily reinstates USAID and all those people who were rightfully terminated or fired or so much of the waste, fraud, and abuse that they identified is going to just automatically come back.

00:03:52.520 All it's essentially saying is that for work that had been accomplished under that sort of $2 billion umbrella, that those people will be compensated.

00:04:03.440 Again, Mike Davis and other legal experts are probably better equipped to understand how that will work itself out and work its way through the courts.

00:04:11.820 But I think, look, you're obviously talking about all things CR.

00:04:15.720 And I think through the same lens, right, that we're sort of sitting here critiquing all these congressional Republicans who want to talk so tough about Doge and the spending cuts and post the pictures with Elon and act like they're all fully in on the waste, fraud, and abuse train.

00:04:29.520 And while, you know, in the same breath, they're not doing anything to meaningfully cut spending, right, they're keeping it at Biden, if not even more inflated Biden levels.

00:04:37.900 But I think that you can sort of draw that same comparison to what they're doing with USAID, because perhaps it's time for Congress to step up and defund, disband, do what, you know, President Trump was intending to do, that he was obstructed, potentially at least temporarily, via lawfare, and to stand in the breach and actually defund USAID, right?

00:04:58.300 President Trump doing it via executive order through, you know, the executive branch was sort of a unique approach to it.

00:05:04.000 And that's why you've seen some of this legal pushback, right?

00:05:06.200 If you read the documents, if you read the argumentation, MSNBC always melts down and just says, oh, President Trump is depriving, you know, Congress of their authority.

00:05:15.160 So I would say that if they really want to have President Trump's back, they have a wonderful opportunity right now.

00:05:20.820 They've been set up to hit a home run.

00:05:22.680 So step up and defund USAID.

00:05:24.580 I haven't had it.

00:05:29.060 I'm going to play a clip for you in a second when I get it up on Brennan and ask you about it.

00:05:33.560 I haven't had a chance because last night went on so long.

00:05:38.460 You and some other people, we thought it was smart to bounce, but I want to get your thoughts.

00:05:42.320 You watched that.

00:05:43.340 You saw the blowback.

00:05:44.780 I mean, it was bizarro.

00:05:46.720 And your hit, I think, with DJ was going viral.

00:05:52.200 And look, because it was such a human moment and so powerful.

00:05:55.900 I mean, last night, so powerful.

00:05:57.860 And you see what a great young man he is.

00:06:00.440 But the Democrats wouldn't even look at him.

00:06:02.540 And they have, I think, Debbie Dingell rolling her eyes. 0.97

00:06:05.360 What's your assessment last night after covering the White House for the first six weeks being our correspondent over there?

00:06:09.940 Just the whole ambiance of last night, and particularly the attitude towards President Trump.

00:06:16.020 Well, I think it's actually just my thesis, though.

00:06:21.520 I guess it's not even a thesis.

00:06:22.480 It's confirmed from these last, not just six weeks, six months, six years, but that there is no compromise with Democrats.

00:06:28.700 And I think you saw that on full display last night, not just for refusing to clap over what may be one of the most patriotic and sweetest young men I've ever met.

00:06:38.040 That is DJ Daniel, obviously applauding things like the southern border, just general things that are great for this country.

00:06:44.200 But, Steve, to get more granular here, watching last night's speech gave me, I was going to say deja vu, maybe PTSD is more accurate terminology, but to the sort of first iteration of Trump resistance, right, to the 2016-era tactics.

00:07:00.380 Now, what did I say before the speech actually started when we were doing our special coverage?

00:07:06.380 That how they act would be a litmus test for whether or not they think that their newfound lawfare strategy, right, opposing President Trump primarily through the courts, sort of the brainchild of the Norm Eisen's of the world, was working.

00:07:20.120 And evidently, right, by the fact not only are they rolling out the, you know, ugly pink dresses and the man, you know, old man with cane screaming and kicking out, getting kicked out, walking out, even the protesters outside the Capitol or the mass demonstrations that they've been doing.

00:07:36.480 That is very reminiscent of 2016, and as someone who has really tracked the resistance, not just the money, but the people, the meetings, the planning, there was always a conscious, very conscious undertone of we don't want to repeat the mistakes that we did the first time around.

00:07:53.340 And they were very cagey about mass mobilization and actual, for lack of a better word, kinetic protests, right, like boots on the ground.

00:08:01.620 And I think that you saw that mask totally slip last night, not just from Democrat members of Congress, but even just from rolling out the activists, you know, obviously the paid protester types, right, sort of the continuation of what's been going on at these town halls.

00:08:18.100 But I think that that was a very, very telling moment that Democrats are really scrambling in terms of trying to understand how to resist President Trump.

00:08:29.420 You know, I don't have time to play it, but Nicole Wallace, I want to go to DJ for a second.

00:08:37.000 Nicole Wallace had this bizarro, after seeing him last night, she had this bizarro, oh, he's a nice young man.

00:08:43.460 I hope he doesn't end up committing suicide, if he stays as a policeman and fulfills his dream, I hope he doesn't end up committing suicide or having to testify.

00:08:53.120 I mean, it just was this bizarre, it wasn't even a ranch, it was this kind of stream of consciousness.

00:08:57.860 Your thoughts, ma'am?

00:08:59.420 Is that projection?

00:09:03.040 Because I think working in law enforcement and someone like DJ Daniel represents what it means to have a profession that is so in line with defending your country, being true to yourself, and just loving, like he said, President Trump.

00:09:16.640 Frankly, I think it embodies, if you want to really get into it, actual masculinity.

00:09:20.400 I think the idea that that Secret Service agent, the new director, who in that picture of, you know, President Trump is so strong and protecting and defending him.

00:09:28.960 And then in the same, you know, what, just a few months later, he's there holding up, you know, hugging, celebrating with this young guy. 0.86

00:09:35.700 That represents the renewal of America, and for someone like Nicole Wallace to sit there, who has only ever lied and lied and lied to the American people, has a profession that is, frankly, more degrading, disgusting, and depraved than, I mean, I put prostitution up there. 1.00

00:09:54.300 Like I said, it's projection.

00:10:24.300 I want to be cops and don't just want to be transgender, so I'm sorry that your programming didn't work.

00:10:30.100 But I think DJ Daniel is a wonderful example of someone who, despite very unfortunate circumstances, has really held the line and stood in the breach of propaganda from losers and hacks, people like Nicole Wallace.

00:10:45.400 Natalie, I thought of you, with Brennan today, they announced, you know, they were going to sign the deal, and I pushed it up for last night.

00:10:55.320 President Trump not only did not do that, he says he signed an executive order to mind rehearse, particularly in places like Minnesota.

00:11:01.960 Also today, as you know, he pulled the plug on intelligence sharing for Ukraine, and Brennan went off.

00:11:11.360 Let's play the clip, because I thought of you about the color revolution, and there's a buried lead in here from Brennan himself, the former CIA director.

00:11:18.700 Let's go ahead and play it.

00:11:19.340 Director Brennan, what is the consequence for Ukraine's ability to prevail or to continue to fight?

00:11:28.160 It's potentially devastating.

00:11:31.900 U.S. support to Ukraine to confront Russian aggression has many different components to it.

00:11:38.980 There are the weapons, there's the munitions, there's the logistical support and the technical systems that empower those capabilities.

00:11:46.900 There's also military advice and guidance, and then there's intelligence.

00:11:50.780 Intelligence is the lifeblood that gives all of those other components the capability to push back against the Russians.

00:11:56.820 And so if you take away the intelligence, you're making the weapons, the capabilities, the munitions, technical systems, and other types of things enfeebled by taking that away.

00:12:06.620 And so over the past, over a decade, the United States has been providing support to Ukraine to be able to build up its capabilities, but to, again, infuse their capabilities with the intelligence that we're able to obtain.

00:12:19.360 And I must point out, this is not a one-way street.

00:12:21.340 Over the past decade, the Ukrainians have provided a lot of intelligence to us, giving us insights about what Russian capabilities are.

00:12:28.520 And so, therefore, this extortionist approach to trying to get Zelensky to basically fold to the Trump administration's wishes as far as some type of peace arrangement that looks more like a surrender in the way that Trump is talking about Putin and Russia.

00:12:45.020 So, okay.

00:12:48.680 Over a decade, that gets back to Victoria Nuland in the – I mean, he just outed himself, right?

00:12:54.660 They've always kind of denied that.

00:12:55.800 Over a decade would put you right at the color revolution.

00:12:58.960 And Brennan is one of the leaders of the color revolution here, is he not, ma'am?

00:13:03.340 Well, and it's also when, what, the Hunter Biden, I believe, and Anthony Fauci pardons began, but I'll digress on that.

00:13:11.600 Look, I think that this idea of intel sharing, much like the long-range missile, you know, no conspiracies, no coincidences, I'm just saying.

00:13:18.980 But it sort of goes to just the ability to always continue to escalate that war, right, whether it's the long-range missiles and their sort of litany of demands that I don't understand where they get the moral, ethical, or political superiority to think that they can make any demands to the United States.

00:13:34.720 In the words of President Trump, you have no cards.

00:13:37.620 The idea of intel sharing has always been sort of first and foremost.

00:13:41.500 But I think that there's sort of the other side of the coin of this, which I think dovetails probably more closely with the color revolution tactics and, frankly, what I think this show is more concerned about, which is what is going on here at home.

00:13:52.500 And so much of that has been the, and I use this word fully intentionally, which is the information warfare, the domestic propaganda, and I'm not just talking about what Obama did in terms of legalizing that, but the idea that they have played it very, very, very close to home and weaponized a lot of resources under Joe Biden to very carefully curate and craft narratives about why the Ukraine war started, the deaths, the, you know, just inability for really anything to actually break through on the ground, right?

00:14:21.000 Remember the lies that they used to tell us, oh, Ukraine's winning, Ukraine's winning. 0.98

00:14:24.020 And then there's a big expose.

00:14:25.140 They're like, actually, that didn't happen.

00:14:27.060 But just a week after the fighting broke out, the Pentagon launched what was called the Influence and Perception Management Office.

00:14:33.820 Like I said, just one week after Russia invaded.

00:14:38.080 And it was very vague.

00:14:39.840 They didn't explicitly announce it.

00:14:41.700 It was just sort of like buried in finance reports.

00:14:44.740 But it showed that they were using, in their words, propaganda internationally and domestically to sort of craft narratives.

00:14:51.000 Narratives about the Ukraine war.

00:14:53.480 And I would extend that out.

00:14:54.640 There was a big news cycle, people may remember, where a lot of Americans and Westerners were registering with Farah to essentially work as like social media promotional agents to sort of lobby media outlets to cover Ukraine in a certain way.

00:15:11.120 I remember one of those Farah filings even showed that people had reached out to people at the RNC trying to get, you know, certain coverage of Ukraine.

00:15:19.660 And, you know, when I look at my background and so much of this being in CCP infiltration reporting like that, the Farah database is always sort of a goldmine for that.

00:15:28.560 And I think that if you sort of continue out, right, what they've done, it always has been from the get go, a psychological operation to dupe Americans into thinking that the only way you can support democracy is by supporting Ukraine.

00:15:40.720 And the number one tells Steve.

00:15:41.940 And I know we've hammered this, but I think it's all the more important as we approach rather hopefully an impending audit.

00:15:49.400 The Biden regime knew that the numbers in terms of support for the Ukraine war among American people were slipping drastically in the final months of his presidency.

00:15:58.560 And instead of realizing that what the American people wanted to see was transparency and an audit, that would be the logical solution.

00:16:05.400 They pushed the lie that the Ukraine war was actually boosting America's manufacturing base and industrial base and that it was great for the American economy.

00:16:13.440 And that right there, I think, is one of the biggest tells that you've ever seen, that they knew what they would uncover with that audit would be so damning that the numbers would somehow ratchet up even more.

00:16:25.500 So in terms of understanding what we need to audit, I think if there's any mineral deal that's signed, we need to make sure that Zelensky plays ball and gives us the list of names.

00:16:37.720 Exactly.

00:16:38.120 One last thing, because you've been one of our lead investigators, but not the lead on the CCP, this issue with the tariffs.

00:16:46.480 And President Trump's working on some arrangement of auto manufacturers, a little complicated on the Canadian side.

00:16:51.660 But I guess one of the Chinese ambassadors, and I've got Forrest Chu is going to join us here at the bottom of the hour, said yesterday, he said, hey, if Buffett's right, this is economic war, we're ready for a trade war, we're ready for any type of war.

00:17:04.980 Pete Hegseth came back today and said, the United States is ready if we have to go kinetic.

00:17:10.280 Your thoughts about around the White House, what's the thinking?

00:17:13.660 Is this ratcheting up?

00:17:14.680 I mean, look, we're the anti-CCP guys, but is this ratcheting up a little too rapidly, at least in the rhetoric side, against the CCP, ma'am?

00:17:23.220 Well, they said, and I quote, that they're ready to fight till the end.

00:17:29.420 That's a direct quote coming from the Chinese embassy here in the United States.

00:17:33.760 They were quote-tweeting that ambassador that you were talking about.

00:17:36.600 I think that it's, frankly, the Chinese Communist Party admitting something, a strategy we've obviously discussed here for how long, which is the idea of unrestricted warfare, right?

00:17:45.840 A people's war, which they've launched. 0.90

00:17:48.160 I guess maybe they've realized the last four years they got to take a little sabbatical, a hiatus, right?

00:17:52.840 Because they didn't need to wage that war because they were essentially invited in here with open arms.

00:17:57.940 But the issue of the tariffs, President Trump is putting a, I believe, 30-day, kind of one-month pause for three of the top automobile manufacturers just to give them a little more time to work on reshoring and bringing a lot of the industrial car parts manufacturing back.

00:18:14.520 You know, so much of that is done in Mexico, so they're working to reshore that.

00:18:18.420 But, look, I think that the timing, right, of China really, really, really ratcheting up their rhetoric in terms of, you know, we're going to fight till the end and all that crazy pomp and circumstance, I think it's really rooted in the TSMC deal, right?

00:18:32.580 There's yesterday the $100 billion for the five factories in Arizona because what have they done?

00:18:37.500 They've worked decades and spent how much money and personnel and blood and treasure into, you know, infiltrating as opposed to invading this country.

00:18:46.200 So deals like that are not allowed to be made for a litany of reasons, not just for national security and supply chain reasons, but also just to continue to tank our economy.

00:18:55.500 And I think yesterday, like we said, was a paradigm shift.

00:18:59.060 And, you know, the Chinese Communist Party always used these things in the sort of Thucydides trap lens.

00:19:04.520 And I guess the United States makes a comeback.

00:19:06.800 And maybe we're just not that declining power after all.

00:19:09.400 Maybe they realized with the closure of USAID, the United States is no longer on the path of managed decline.

00:19:15.180 I think they're lashing out like a petulant child.

00:19:18.940 But it'll be interesting to see in terms of the rhetoric heating up.

00:19:25.520 Natalie, what's your social media?

00:19:27.360 Where do people get you until you're back on DeMar?

00:19:31.500 Natalie G. Winters on all platforms.

00:19:33.620 And if you haven't watched, you've got to watch the DJ Daniel video.

00:19:36.220 My phone's already blowing up.

00:19:37.720 People love it because, hey, a great American and honor to have interviewed him.

00:19:42.260 Thank you for having me.

00:19:43.080 Fantastic.

00:19:45.700 We're going to play it a little later in the show.

00:19:46.940 It is blowing up.

00:19:47.680 Going viral.

00:19:48.380 Thank you, Natalie.

00:19:49.360 Appreciate you.

00:19:52.000 Dr. Bradley Thayer.

00:19:54.800 You're here because no ideas have consequences.

00:19:58.480 A very important idea I want to get out there that you brought to my attention about the Democrats last night.

00:20:03.180 But since you are a resident expert on all things CCP, can you pick up there from Natalie about the ambassador?

00:20:09.680 I mean, it's pretty brazen, right?

00:20:13.900 We put these tariffs on, and it's not like the old days.

00:20:17.500 The ambassador to the United States, because the Chinese have a way, you know, the CCP has a way of kind of trying to accommodate and do things, you know, behind the scenes.

00:20:25.420 This guy's right up on your grill.

00:20:27.720 We're ready for a trade war.

00:20:29.180 We're ready for an economic war.

00:20:30.500 We're ready for any kind of war you want, guys.

00:20:32.540 We're down for it.

00:20:33.400 Pete Hegg said today, the Secretary of Defense, this morning on Fox and Friends, said, hey, United States is ready to roll.

00:20:40.760 If you've got to go to Connecticut against the Chinese, we're ready. 1.00

00:20:43.920 Tell me about the – first of all, the CCP.

00:20:45.700 Is this their normal response when they have an economic issue like tariffs, sir?

00:20:53.460 Steve, great to join.

00:20:55.380 It is their response.

00:20:57.760 Their bark is going to be far worse than their bite.

00:21:00.720 The CCP has got feet of clay.

00:21:04.100 Their economy is in the tank.

00:21:05.840 Steve, as you well know, they've got a legitimation crisis.

00:21:09.200 They have so many problems that they're facing that they're confronting today.

00:21:13.400 They're supremely vulnerable to these pressures.

00:21:16.900 And what President Trump is doing expertly is devising these tariffs to start chipping away, really, at the economic relationship that we have with the People's Republic of China.

00:21:32.560 And you'll note, Steve, very well, the measures that President Trump announced last week, too, right, with respect to going after China.

00:21:42.800 So it's more than tariffs.

00:21:44.820 It's the recognition that the CCP is a threat to the United States.

00:21:50.160 And the Trump administration is working actively to address it.

00:21:53.920 So, of course, the ambassador and the foreign ministry are going to say these things, that they're ready for war.

00:21:59.840 And they're willing to engage in any type of war that the U.S. wants.

00:22:06.760 Well, in part, that's just recognizing the reality that, in fact, the CCP has been at war with the United States since they came to power in 1949.

00:22:15.200 And then, as they restated again in 2019, when Xi Jinping, the communist dictator, declared people's war against the United States to focus the energies of the party and the people on the U.S.

00:22:29.260 So that's just making explicit, really, what's been going on for a very long time.

00:22:35.500 Hexeth's remarks were spot on and absolutely necessary.

00:22:38.980 So we should expect this type of reaction from the CCP.

00:22:42.900 They know they're vulnerable and they're trying to scare us off.

00:22:46.620 But it's not going to work with President Trump and Secretary Hexeth and President Trump's team.

00:22:51.940 Talk to me about – Forrest is going to join us here at the bottom of the hour.

00:22:57.960 I want to go to a concept you brought up to me last night.

00:23:00.580 I was talking about the Democrats and how they acted.

00:23:02.860 He said, Steve, you're not really thinking through Lenin theory.

00:23:07.680 This is revolutionary defeat-ism.

00:23:10.900 What do you mean by that?

00:23:11.760 This is part of their playbook about how the sullen and the surly is part of their playbook?

00:23:17.180 Oh, absolutely it is.

00:23:18.560 And that's what also applies to the Democrats' behavior last night in the historic address

00:23:27.520 that President Trump gave.

00:23:31.380 So when we're thinking about the CCP or we're thinking about the behavior of the Democrats,

00:23:36.800 we need to think not in American terms, but we need increasingly.

00:23:41.960 Obviously, with the CCP, we need to think in these terms.

00:23:44.360 But with the Democrats in terms of ideas that are coming, not out of American tradition,

00:23:50.620 not out of American political culture, but out of progressivism or out of Marxism or Leninist thought.

00:23:57.960 So Lenin had the idea, what he called revolutionary defeat-ism, which is often known to the audience,

00:24:04.700 who might remember Lenin's quip, the worse, the better.

00:24:07.560 By which he meant the worst things are for the government of Russia, for the czarist government,

00:24:13.300 the worse it is for the Russian military, the worse it is for the Russian people and peasants,

00:24:17.740 the better it is for the revolutionary party.

00:24:21.720 So Lenin wanted things to go as bad as possible for the czarist government,

00:24:28.060 because that was making conditions better for a revolutionary moment.

00:24:31.440 So Steve, if we reflect on the Democrats last night in this historic speech,

00:24:36.840 where Trump gave his vision for America, he talked about so many positive elements, a golden age.

00:24:42.800 He introduced, obviously, D.J. Daniel, the angel mothers,

00:24:48.240 the family of the firefighter murdered in Butler, Pennsylvania,

00:24:53.160 and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., right, make America healthy again.

00:24:57.300 The Democrats didn't react to any of it, right?

00:25:00.080 They were stone-faced, absolutely opposed to any of that.

00:25:04.940 So when we think about their behavior in conjunction with going back to President Obama's behavior,

00:25:10.380 President Biden's behavior with an open border, who would open the U.S. border?

00:25:15.240 Who would enact a strategy of a very carefully thought out series of policies to open the American border

00:25:24.820 to allow tens of millions of people unbedded into the United States?

00:25:28.860 Well, that's a party that's trying to make it the worse, the better, right?

00:25:33.220 They want to immiserate the American people, make the American condition far worse. 0.83

00:25:38.100 And what did President Trump do last night?

00:25:40.800 What President Trump did is just turn that on its head, right?

00:25:44.880 The better for the American people, the worse for the Democratic Party and for the CCP, importantly, right?

00:25:52.600 So the better, the worse.

00:25:54.160 That's what Trump did last night.

00:25:56.220 And what Trump has been doing...

00:25:57.620 Hang on one second.

00:25:59.440 This is the whole six weeks.

00:26:00.760 Hang on one second.

00:26:01.560 I'm going to hold you through the break.

00:26:02.980 And Forrest Chu is going to join us also.

00:26:04.540 Dr. Bradley Thayer, our go-to guy on all things Chinese Communist Party.

00:26:10.840 Revolutionary defeatism.

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00:33:22.060 Let me play.

00:33:24.220 I'm going to play a clip.

00:33:24.980 I got Forrest.

00:33:26.340 I got Dr. Thayer.

00:33:28.800 I tell you what, before I do that, one more time, I'm going to play that clip in a second.

00:33:31.900 Dr. Thayer, real quickly, just take a minute or two.

00:33:35.240 This concept, we'd love, we say ideas have consequences.

00:33:39.360 And last night, what you framed, you said, hey, Steve, there's actually a strategic,

00:33:43.900 they're being very strategic here.

00:33:46.000 They're being, quite frankly, kind of disciplined.

00:33:48.780 And they're following the discipline of Lenin put in with the Bolsheviks. 0.51

00:33:51.960 Remember, the Bolsheviks were a very tiny party that took over Russia.

00:33:56.440 And they took over Russia by a fierce internal discipline and take no prisoners. 0.80

00:34:01.460 I mean, these people were some of the hardest folks in the world.

00:34:05.400 Revolutionary defeatism.

00:34:06.840 What is it, sir?

00:34:07.560 And why did we see it on display last night in the nation's capital of the greatest republic

00:34:13.800 in mankind's history, sir?

00:34:16.260 Yes, Steve.

00:34:16.900 So Vladimir Lenin advanced the idea that the worst things were for the Russian people,

00:34:23.060 for the Russian military, and for the Tsar's government, the better it was for the

00:34:27.540 Revolutionary Party, for advancing revolutionary goals, the better it was for the Bolsheviks.

00:34:33.420 So he said the worse, the better.

00:34:35.020 So he did everything he could do in conjunction with his party, the Bolshevik Party, to undermine 0.50

00:34:41.360 the Russian war effort in World War I and thwart, to the extent he was able, any Russian 0.99

00:34:48.600 goal.

00:34:49.240 So what we're seeing with he wanted to make things as bad as possible for the Russian people

00:34:54.640 so that the revolution would come about sooner.

00:34:58.380 Well, what did we see last night?

00:35:00.080 Right.

00:35:01.080 Well, the Democrats are really following that policy of immunization.

00:35:05.420 What they're trying to do is make things as bad as possible with the Obama administration

00:35:10.860 and then the Biden administration.

00:35:12.280 And we talked about the example of the open border policy, where we really don't know how

00:35:18.360 many people came into the United States in the years of the open border.

00:35:23.600 The support for the People's Republic of China, the weakening of the United States, the horrible 0.96

00:35:31.660 withdrawal from Afghanistan.

00:35:34.960 These are all policies, if you think about it strategically from that point of view of

00:35:39.560 the Democratic Party, that this is really revolutionary defeatism.

00:35:44.480 The Democrats are trying to do what they can to immiserate the American people, to advance

00:35:52.420 their agenda.

00:35:53.500 And President Trump is not having any of it.

00:35:55.560 He's turning that on his head.

00:35:57.280 He loves America.

00:35:58.400 He loves the American people.

00:35:59.780 And he's trying to make things better for the American people and thus make things much

00:36:05.220 worse for the Democrats and for the Chinese Communist Party and other enemies of the United 1.00

00:36:10.300 States.

00:36:10.860 So what Trump is doing is brilliant and what the Democrats are doing, when we think about

00:36:16.160 it through a Leninist lens, right, not through the traditional American lens, because the

00:36:21.520 Democrats just really seem to be, don't they, out of American political history and political

00:36:27.000 culture.

00:36:27.680 The way they behaved last night was just the latest example of that, right?

00:36:32.520 What Al Green did was absolutely beyond the bounds of acceptable behavior.

00:36:37.540 The fact that they had no reaction whatsoever to the angel moms, to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,

00:36:48.020 to the other poignant, the young man who's going to West Point, of course, and D.J. Daniel.

00:36:55.900 You had there at one place and one time, two starkly different conceptions of the United

00:37:01.420 States.

00:37:02.420 One, Trump's backed by the Republicans in the chamber and in the audience, strongly supporting

00:37:09.840 that golden age for the United States.

00:37:12.840 Americans who are invested in America and furthering and making life better for the American

00:37:17.980 people versus the revolutionary defeatists, right?

00:37:22.040 That would be the Democrats who are doing what they can do, not to have a golden age, but

00:37:28.080 to immiserate the American people, just as Lenin would want for that revolutionary party. 0.63

00:37:35.860 So in one place, one time, that's why this was historic, not just for Trump's address, but

00:37:41.360 you had two visions of the United States on display there.

00:37:46.020 When the American people spoke overwhelmingly, you've noted the polls, that Trump's vision,

00:37:51.260 the golden age of America, is what the American people want.

00:37:54.860 This is what they want.

00:37:57.040 Let's pivot now to, as Captain Jim Fennell says, your writing partner, the main thing,

00:38:02.620 right?

00:38:02.860 I want to play a clip from our own Pete Hex, a close friend and a good buddy and a great

00:38:08.040 man, head of DOD.

00:38:10.200 Let's play it.

00:38:10.820 I want to bring it for us.

00:38:11.680 Let's go and play the clip.

00:38:12.480 As the speech wrapped up last night, this was posted by the Chinese embassy.

00:38:19.060 Quote, if war is what the U.S. wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war, or any other type

00:38:25.640 of war, we're ready to fight till the end.

00:38:28.060 As Secretary of Defense, how do you take that?

00:38:30.920 Well, we're prepared.

00:38:32.500 Those who long for peace must prepare for war.

00:38:36.440 That's why we're rebuilding our military.

00:38:38.460 That's why we're reestablishing deterrence.

00:38:40.120 And the warrior ethos is because we live in a dangerous world with powerful, ascendant

00:38:44.220 countries with very different ideologies.

00:38:46.440 You mentioned defense spending.

00:38:48.060 They're rapidly increasing their defense spending.

00:38:50.800 Modern technology.

00:38:51.860 They want to supplant the United States. 0.93

00:38:54.160 If we want to deter war with the Chinese or others, we have to be strong.

00:38:58.520 And that president understands peace comes through strength.

00:39:00.740 He also has a great relationship with that gentleman right there, too.

00:39:03.540 Xi Jinping.

00:39:03.960 So where we can partner, where we can cooperate to recognize that we don't want war with China,

00:39:11.100 we don't seek that war, we will.

00:39:12.900 And the president has sought historic peace and historic opportunities.

00:39:15.740 But my job as the Secretary of Defense is to make sure we're ready.

00:39:19.380 We need the defense spending, the capabilities, the weapons, and the posture in the Indo-Pacific,

00:39:24.400 which is something we're very much focused on.

00:39:25.800 And what Pete Hex has done is add the warrior ethos.

00:39:33.160 Forrest Cho, I want to bring it to you first.

00:39:36.700 It's pretty extraordinary, at least to me.

00:39:39.500 You're the head of the new federal state since Miles has been detained.

00:39:43.940 You've been doing a great job as our leader.

00:39:46.440 But is it pretty unusual for the Chinese ambassador to be that aggressive?

00:39:50.280 Hey, guys, if you want to trade war, we'll do it.

00:39:52.240 You want any kind of war, we'll do it. 0.98

00:39:53.660 We're ready to fight to the end.

00:39:54.920 Your thoughts on that first.

00:39:57.700 Yes, that's very common, what they call that wolf warrior, right?

00:40:01.060 That's the Chinese Communist Party.

00:40:02.420 But first of all, I would like to say it is very essential to differentiate CCP,

00:40:08.040 the Chinese Communist Party, and the people.

00:40:12.340 Because the Chinese Communist Party is a totalitarian regime,

00:40:15.580 which enslaved the Chinese people for over 70 years.

00:40:19.220 The Chinese people, Long Baixin, are peace-loving and hard-working people.

00:40:23.780 They don't want war.

00:40:25.080 They don't want trade war.

00:40:26.200 They don't want war.

00:40:27.480 So I think it's the CCP.

00:40:29.080 They want war.

00:40:29.760 When they say that statement, we will fight to the end,

00:40:33.640 they are talking about sacrifice of the Lao Baixins,

00:40:36.840 just like what we see in Ukraine.

00:40:38.460 The dictatorship used the war as their tool to keep them in power and keep their global influence globally.

00:40:45.560 So that's the CCP talk, no doubt about it.

00:40:48.040 But let's think about it.

00:40:49.860 While we are still talking about a potential war,

00:40:52.860 No, I think back in 2017, Miles and you already warned the U.S.

00:40:59.520 and warned the world that the CCP is waging the war against the free nation, free country, against the USA.

00:41:07.420 Right?

00:41:07.980 This war included the fentanyl crisis.

00:41:11.240 We have over 100,000 people die every year.

00:41:15.000 That's a war.

00:41:15.840 No doubt about it.

00:41:17.040 What about the COVID-19?

00:41:18.780 How many people died from COVID-19?

00:41:20.600 And the CCP, you know, used their misinformation to cover up all the information.

00:41:27.440 And they also, they take all the PPEs to, you know, jeopardize the effort here in the U.S.

00:41:34.760 So that's unrestricted warfare.

00:41:37.900 What about the industry and also the technology espionage?

00:41:41.560 They have a cyber attack, a cyber affair happening in this country.

00:41:45.540 And Huawei, TikTok, and Zoom.

00:41:48.360 All those companies is working, all bikined by the PLA, by the CCP.

00:41:55.220 So they already waged the war on USA. 0.76

00:42:00.580 So I think we have to be aware of that.

00:42:03.420 And also their propaganda, right?

00:42:05.600 The winter just brought up that back to the years, they talk about the China is rising, the Americans falling.

00:42:12.060 No, it's not.

00:42:12.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:14.800 Hang on a second.

00:42:16.380 Go back and ascribe to our audience.

00:42:17.880 What do you mean by wolf warrior?

00:42:19.620 The ambassador was very aggressive.

00:42:21.660 Normally the ambassadors are trying to, you know, be diplomatic.

00:42:25.060 That was not.

00:42:25.880 That was up in your grill.

00:42:27.680 What is the concept of wolf warrior?

00:42:30.640 Explain it to our audience.

00:42:32.060 Okay, the wolf warrior, basically, they won't back down.

00:42:34.780 They will use everything to threat the world, threat their people, threat the peace of the world. 0.98

00:42:40.520 That's wolf warrior.

00:42:42.100 They won't back down.

00:42:42.960 They won't negotiate because they don't care about their people's well-being.

00:42:47.800 All they care is about their power, their, let's call that, face.

00:42:51.980 So they want to save their own face and just sacrifice their own people and threaten the whole world. 0.93

00:42:57.720 That's what's defined as a wolf warrior.

00:43:00.460 Dr. Thayer, in the concept of the wolf warrior, Pete Hegseth, our friend and colleague, was that false bravado?

00:43:10.720 I mean, we've talked about this a lot.

00:43:12.260 Are we prepared to defend Taiwan?

00:43:13.820 I'm saying forget whether we make a decision or not.

00:43:16.400 Is the Seventh Fleet prepared to defend it?

00:43:19.080 Are we prepared to take the Chinese Communist Party on if a shooting war starts in East Asia? 0.57

00:43:25.920 Sir, is Pete Hegseth right to say, hey, you want to get it on, we're ready to get it on, and the United States will prevail, sir?

00:43:34.380 Well, the U.S. military, of course, is a formidable force in any environment, in all environments.

00:43:39.860 And so if the PRC were to make the decision to attack Taiwan, to attempt to conquer it, I think that they would incur very significant costs, which is, you know, what Pete Hegseth is doing, is doing underscoring our deterrent capabilities, which are considerable.

00:43:58.520 There's no doubt a lot of work has got to be done, Steve, in terms of our conventional posture and in terms of our nuclear posture as well.

00:44:07.140 But if the war were to come, of course, their political warfare is ongoing, as Forrest has stressed, right, that they've been waging war at us through many means for a very long time.

00:44:20.540 If it were to go kinetic, of course, then U.S. capabilities in conjunction with allies like Japan are going to ensure that the PRC incurs a very significant cost in it.

00:44:34.140 Trump administration is doing what it can do to turn this around.

00:44:37.960 And you saw in the speech, the emphasis on shipbuilding, emphasized on military power.

00:44:46.140 All of those are very positive developments, which are only going to further strengthen our deterrent, and if deterrent fails, warfighting capabilities in the Indo-Pacific.

00:44:55.940 Dr. Thayer, where can people get your writings, your prolific, your knowledge of the Chinese Communist Party and the communist doctrine?

00:45:05.260 You always continue to remind me, don't think of them in too much of a Western context.

00:45:09.560 This is very much a Confucian mentality, but it's also primarily Marxist, Leninist ideology.

00:45:16.800 So where do people go to get all your writings?

00:45:19.680 Brad Thayer at Extra, Bradley Thayer at Getter and Truth.

00:45:23.100 Thanks very much, Steve.

00:45:24.100 Thank you, Dr. Thayer.

00:45:28.060 Revolutionary defeatism.

00:45:29.780 Amazing.

00:45:30.980 Forrest, you heard of Pete Heggs as Secretary of Defense, and you heard, you know, you've explained this wolf warrior mentality.

00:45:38.540 Do you believe that the Chinese Communist Party is prepared to go to a kinetic war, a conflict now, over Taiwan, in the South China Sea, or in the Straits of Taiwan, sir?

00:45:49.260 Okay, I think only a few people, including Xi Jinping and a handful of loyal persons, will want this war.

00:45:56.980 Let's look at it.

00:45:58.000 There is a lot of pressure building up inside China.

00:46:02.100 We talked about the economic pressure before.

00:46:04.160 We know there was a military purge happened in China, which is initiated by Xi Jinping.

00:46:11.160 There's nobody he can trust.

00:46:12.720 So I don't think even on the higher level in the CCP, a lot of people don't want war.

00:46:18.360 They want to keep themselves safe.

00:46:19.600 They want to keep their offspring who are abroad to keep their asset and their children safe.

00:46:25.880 So I think there is a lot of internal pressure.

00:46:28.580 Those people are looking for regime change or leader change.

00:46:31.820 And the most important thing I would like to say is the people.

00:46:35.960 The people are wakening up in China. 0.96

00:46:38.020 Because we talked about the marriage rate plummeted over, like, 21 percent last time.

00:46:44.200 The Chinese people had enough. 1.00

00:46:47.220 They will never trust the Chinese Communist Party and their lies and their propaganda. 0.99

00:46:52.960 That's why even if they want to start a war, the Chinese people will overthrow this government.

00:46:59.180 And they won't support this war.

00:47:00.860 And also the internal people won't support Xi Jinping, the dictatorship.

00:47:06.200 Think about the Ukraine.

00:47:08.540 Hang on a second.

00:47:10.720 They've had a huge purge.

00:47:12.120 You've brought us up to speed on that over the last six months to a year.

00:47:15.060 A huge purge of the military under Xi.

00:47:18.120 You're saying, did you just say you believe if there's actually a shooting war, if we go kinetic, that Lao Baixing, that will be the movement that Lao Baixing will overthrow the regime, sir?

00:47:28.740 The Lao Baixing, including the internal people, which is the high-level people.

00:47:32.940 Because they know the system is not sustainable.

00:47:36.400 Because you saw even the high-level ranking people is thrown in prison and they disappeared.

00:47:41.060 So they had enough.

00:47:42.940 In order to keep themselves and their families safe, they have to make the decision.

00:47:48.420 They have to act rather than just follow Xi Jinping's all the dictatorship to go to war to destroy everything they had.

00:47:56.540 Wow.

00:47:58.160 Wow.

00:47:58.600 We've got about a minute.

00:48:00.200 I want to go to the economic situation.

00:48:02.960 Because they present a series of numbers that are not great, but they're not awful.

00:48:08.160 Of course, very smart people are saying those numbers are much, much worse than that.

00:48:11.880 Your assessment of the real economic conditions in China today?

00:48:16.040 You can never trust anything coming out from CCP's mouth, right?

00:48:20.620 All the numbers are fake.

00:48:21.720 We talked about the youth unemployment rate is already over 40, 50.

00:48:26.720 So the manufacturing is leaving China.

00:48:29.700 We talked about Apple.

00:48:30.960 We talked about the TSMC.

00:48:32.820 The economic situation is very bad, including the real estate sector, which is in deep trouble.

00:48:38.860 So back in a couple, two years ago, two, three years ago, it's even worse nowadays.

00:48:43.880 So their economy is not sustainable.

00:48:46.440 And they force people to stay in the labor force and to do very minimum wage work.

00:48:54.860 But even that cannot support all the populations, all the young peoples in the country. 0.83

00:49:02.880 Forrest, where do people go to get the new federal state's TV show, podcast,

00:49:07.960 all your content, where do they go, sir?

00:49:10.960 Yeah, they can go to Getter, NFSC TV and NFSC Speaks.

00:49:15.760 And also we have a content, NFSC TV and Speaks on X.

00:49:21.660 Also, you put out the daily news.

00:49:23.700 I know it's up on Getter.

00:49:24.740 It is spectacular.

00:49:26.020 The level of detail and analysis.

00:49:27.640 How do people get that daily?

00:49:28.760 How do they get that daily news feed?

00:49:30.460 There's always a half a dozen to a dozen.

00:49:33.220 Really, I mean, and I look at every newspaper in the world.

00:49:35.780 That is some of the best analysis I've seen.

00:49:38.100 You get it up on Getter.

00:49:39.120 How do people get to it?

00:49:40.960 Thank you so much.

00:49:41.960 People just have to download Getter.

00:49:43.720 You can find daily news on the Getter app.

00:49:46.220 You can find all those great news, all the truths from China and all the news in the area.

00:49:53.380 It's amazing.

00:49:54.400 Absolutely amazing.

00:49:55.260 Forrest, thank you so much.

00:49:56.280 Appreciate you coming on.

00:49:57.800 Thank you.

00:49:58.320 You made me feel better.

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Bannon's War Room - March 06, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 718： Hegseth Responds To War Threats From China Against The US

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