Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 724： Schumer Caves Leaves Shutdown In Hands Of Progressive Dems

00:00:00.000 You know, when you say that we're in a when we're in a period of detox, you use that word

00:00:18.360 on CNBC last week, is that a euphemism for recession?

00:00:23.220 Not at all.

00:00:24.220 It doesn't have to be because it'll depend on how quickly the baton gets handed off.

00:00:29.980 You know, our goal is to have a smooth transition.

00:00:33.620 But I tell you, Sarah, the easy thing, the easy thing for us to have done would have been

00:00:38.300 to come in and just keep this massive spending level going.

00:00:43.400 And it's unsustainable.

00:00:44.960 But could we have kept it going for a year, two years, maybe even four?

00:00:48.820 Maybe.

00:00:49.820 But you're risking a financial calamity.

00:00:52.120 So we are trying to get this tax bill done.

00:00:55.300 We are controlling expenses.

00:00:58.900 And when we get the tax bill done, so if you can change the trajectory, up revenues,

00:01:05.020 up economic growth, hold expenses flat or do the unthinkable and cut expenses, then that's

00:01:11.340 a pretty good trajectory on growth.

00:01:14.540 And, you know, if we go back to the model in the 90s, that's exactly what happened.

00:01:18.660 You know, we'd see interest rates come down.

00:01:20.660 We'd see the private sector take up the slack from the government.

00:01:24.580 Because right now, we have excess employment in the government.

00:01:28.820 And those people can be moved to the private sector.

00:01:33.160 As I told the Business Roundtable yesterday, as I tell your viewers, what we're trying to

00:01:37.680 do is create economic certainty.

00:01:39.280 We're going to do it with the tax plan.

00:01:40.780 We're going to do it with deregulation.

00:01:43.280 And, you know, I also said to the Business Roundtable, I think it was 135 CEOs yesterday, if you

00:01:50.340 came out with a plan similar to what Doge wants to do with the federal government, all

00:01:54.820 your stocks would go up 15 or 20 percent.

00:01:56.920 You know, it would be considered a miraculous restructuring cost savings and put you on

00:02:03.480 a sustainable course.

00:02:04.720 So, you know, I think we're not getting credit for this yet.

00:02:07.520 I think we will.

00:02:08.520 This audience ought to be very proud because that individual is the Secretary of Treasury

00:02:16.200 at the exact moment that we need him as Secretary of Treasury because of this audience.

00:02:20.760 Scott came on here a couple of years ago, started talking about capital markets, started

00:02:25.200 talking about interest rates, growth, supply side cuts, the debt, issues with the debt,

00:02:30.580 et cetera, everything you're hearing today, excess regulation.

00:02:33.180 And thank God we have Scott Besson as President Trump's wingman in a time like this.

00:02:40.860 Matt Boyle, national political editor of Breitbart, you're actually at the Treasury Department.

00:02:45.980 You just finished an exclusive interview with the Secretary of Treasury.

00:02:49.580 Where in the Treasury are you, sir?

00:02:53.000 We are in what's called the Salmon Chase Suite.

00:02:56.900 There's a name for then-Secretary of Treasury, Salmon Chase, who later became the Chief

00:03:01.400 Justice of the US Supreme Court, who, along with President Abraham Lincoln, in this room

00:03:07.900 right here, saved the republic during the Civil War.

00:03:12.080 It's here where they developed greenbacks, right?

00:03:16.640 They developed maybe not the best idea, but the IRS, but also the Bureau of Engraving and

00:03:21.900 Printing.

00:03:22.900 It's here where the modern currency in the United States and our monetary system was formed.

00:03:30.400 It was formed by the Union side to win the Civil War against the Confederacy.

00:03:36.200 And so this was one of the major moments in Treasury Department history, obviously right

00:03:41.160 next door to the White House.

00:03:42.800 And so I found it fascinating that we did this interview here because it's one of the major

00:03:49.060 moments that faces the country right now, because we're about to enter a new golden era of an

00:03:54.460 American economy, thanks to President Trump and Secretary Besson and the policies that they're

00:03:58.200 doing.

00:03:58.860 So that's what we talked about, right?

00:04:00.380 Like, it's like, you know, this is another huge moment in world history.

00:04:07.000 As a son of the South coming from Richmond, Virginia, it always hurts me.

00:04:12.680 That room is very famous.

00:04:14.420 Salmon Chase, as you know, was on the Team Arrival's cabinet.

00:04:17.280 I said the other day, told a group that the cabinet that President Trump has put together

00:04:21.680 today, I think, is as good a cabinet as we've had working with a president since President

00:04:29.480 Lincoln's team of rivals were cabinet.

00:04:31.560 As you know, Secretary of State Seward, right, who is absolutely brilliant, and Secretary of

00:04:37.640 Treasury Salmon Chase, who really did come up with a financing strategy because I don't

00:04:42.440 think we'd ever sold a government bond.

00:04:43.940 You know, we didn't have a central bank at the time.

00:04:46.800 Andrew Jackson, President Jackson had gotten away with that.

00:04:50.180 I mean, Chase really had to make up the entire thing.

00:04:52.560 And if it was not for Chase really being Lincoln's wingman, because President Lincoln, as brilliant

00:04:57.540 as he was, he'd be the first to say he was not a high, he didn't understand high finance

00:05:02.180 that well until a couple of years into it.

00:05:05.700 So you chose that.

00:05:06.420 It's quite ironic that you chose that.

00:05:08.140 President Lincoln would come over here.

00:05:10.520 He would come over here from the White House.

00:05:12.200 And I mean, you don't really hear that much that the president of the United States comes

00:05:15.780 over to the Treasury Department, right?

00:05:17.400 Like, I don't know if other presidents have done that.

00:05:20.140 I've asked a few people here today, and we're gonna try to get a clear answer about that.

00:05:23.760 But the point is that President Lincoln, this great historic figure, came over from the White

00:05:29.560 House here to this room right here to save the American Republic.

00:05:33.140 And right now, you are seeing this dire moment in American history where the current Treasury

00:05:40.120 Secretary is being called on by the president, by President Trump, to again steer us out of

00:05:45.640 a real dark place that Joe Biden and the previous administration left us in, and to again save

00:05:51.260 the American Republic right here in this room.

00:05:53.540 So I couldn't think of a better place to have this conversation.

00:05:56.720 You know, today I teed up the show is War and Peace and Prosperity.

00:06:03.180 And that's what we've seen today, you know, this hour and 20 minute impromptu press avail.

00:06:08.620 And I keep telling the audience, if you come to Real America's Voice, we're going to show

00:06:12.240 as much of this as live as possible, whether it's a Word or a Postal or a Charlie Kirk show.

00:06:15.740 The reason is you're seeing history in the making.

00:06:18.720 President Trump is inviting you into the room to actually see it with world leaders.

00:06:23.040 He's sometimes he's thinking out loud.

00:06:25.500 He's he's showing you how he puts things together, particularly on a day, Matt, when Putin

00:06:29.620 couldn't have been, I think, more blunt about what he's looking took a full maximalist position

00:06:36.080 of what he needs for a ceasefire capital markets around the world.

00:06:41.320 President Trump not not folding it all on tariffs.

00:06:44.900 In fact, he says, I will not bend on steel and aluminum tariffs.

00:06:48.740 I will not bend on April 2nd of reciprocity to all of our trading partners.

00:06:54.980 In the same time, India punched out of the bricks today.

00:06:57.460 Initial report that Modi said, hey, we're not going to play around with trying to do something

00:07:01.020 alternative to the U.S. currency.

00:07:02.680 World historical events are happening today.

00:07:06.040 One thing I liked, Matt, when I heard you were doing the exclusive interview, I've been

00:07:09.620 a big advocate of Secretary of Treasury Besant getting out there more, not just with the

00:07:15.380 financial press, but with the grassroots and the and the political press, people like you,

00:07:19.920 the national political editor at Breitbart, to really get the message out.

00:07:23.100 Why don't you tell us how it went?

00:07:24.980 Yeah, well, look, I think that it was an important moment because, look, I think that part of the

00:07:29.640 jitters you see in markets and whatnot out there, you know, you see the stock market go up and

00:07:33.920 down.

00:07:34.380 And it's because, you know, they think that they're going to be able to create some kind

00:07:39.300 of uncertainty or, you know, lack of resolve in President Trump.

00:07:43.440 I think that, you know, it's abundantly clear now.

00:07:46.720 This is the way things are now, okay?

00:07:49.080 This is the way things are now.

00:07:50.720 President Trump's in charge.

00:07:52.280 He's going to do the tariffs and bring the companies back to America, whether they like

00:07:57.940 it or not.

00:07:58.640 And I think that, you know, that's the message I heard from Secretary Besant is that they're

00:08:04.700 very focused on this.

00:08:05.940 So we went through several examples of several companies.

00:08:08.620 That's going to be one of the big stories that we're going to come out with about this.

00:08:13.480 But also, they're reorienting the American economy off of government spending.

00:08:18.020 That was the thing of the last administration.

00:08:20.220 The Biden administration was entirely government spending dependent.

00:08:24.120 And one of the things the Secretary of Business is trying to do is what he calls reprivatize

00:08:28.880 the American economy.

00:08:30.080 Get the money coming from the private sector, from American businesses, from American banks,

00:08:34.900 and not from the government.

00:08:37.400 And I think that, you know, those goals are all laudable, and they fit together with a

00:08:41.860 broader national strategy, right?

00:08:43.340 You hear the establishment media and the fake news.

00:08:45.720 And this was another big thing we talked about.

00:08:47.560 The Secretary was very much aggressively criticizing the fake news.

00:08:51.740 He said that he's like, you know, I used to, you know, now that I'm Secretary and I see

00:08:57.120 how it really works in here, and I just see how, I see all these fake news outlets out there.

00:09:00.860 He's like, I don't think fake news is a strong enough term.

00:09:03.620 That's what he told me.

00:09:04.760 He said he doesn't think fake news is a strong enough term to describe the establishment

00:09:07.860 media.

00:09:08.660 So what I'm getting at, Steve, here is that these people are trying to lie about President

00:09:15.020 Trump and act like he doesn't have some grand vision here and that everything's just retaliatory

00:09:19.320 and emotional.

00:09:20.120 It's not.

00:09:20.920 There is a grand vision here for the Trump economy.

00:09:23.400 And as it's playing out, you're seeing major companies make major decisions, right?

00:09:29.060 GE, Arrow Dynamics just announced a major reinvestment of a billion dollars in the United

00:09:37.600 States, or $100 billion.

00:09:39.620 You're seeing all these other companies, right?

00:09:41.600 And I went through a list of them with Secretary Besant that are either coming back to the United

00:09:47.100 States or just coming to the United States to get around the tariffs.

00:09:50.460 And I think that you're going to see that happen more and more across the board.

00:09:54.340 I mean, Honda and Hyundai are expanding operations here in the United States rather than Mexico

00:09:58.780 or other places.

00:09:59.980 And I think that as you start to see that long term play out and you see this vision really

00:10:04.780 take hold, the jitters are going to fade away and things will sort themselves out and

00:10:09.380 things will get back to normal.

00:10:10.980 And the American public is going to enter this, what President Trump calls his new golden era.

00:10:16.300 I want to go back to something right there, because I've been a big advocate for the

00:10:22.640 Secretary.

00:10:23.380 Like this morning, go to the White House, you breathe the president, come to the sticks.

00:10:26.860 And he was perfect.

00:10:28.020 He says, you guys are running around with the hair on fire on tariffs.

00:10:30.580 You better be focused on the Schumer shutdown that could happen momentarily.

00:10:35.280 In fact, the rumor has it, Scott.

00:10:37.680 I mean, Matt.

00:10:38.320 It did.

00:10:41.580 He just did.

00:10:42.160 We know that he's Cade, and we're not going to have a government show.

00:10:46.840 Well, he's going to deliver a handful more Democrat votes, but Schumer just came out

00:10:51.020 and said he will vote for cloture on the House-passed Trump-backed bill.

00:10:54.960 So assuming Schumer has the command of a handful more Democrats in the Senate, there will not

00:11:01.280 be a shutdown.

00:11:03.620 It happened during the commercial break.

00:11:05.160 What a win for President Trump.

00:11:12.660 Just absolutely huge.

00:11:13.660 I want to go back to what you just said about what Besson said.

00:11:17.620 Besson's not a hair on fire guy.

00:11:19.880 The reason he has a job, he's a very steady Eddie, very calm, probative capital markets

00:11:26.520 guy.

00:11:26.900 And particularly, he's a macro.

00:11:28.020 So these are guys that make one or two big bets a year, and those bets can take years

00:11:32.800 to pay off.

00:11:33.440 So you have to be really confident in your ability to see, analyze the situation, look

00:11:38.080 over the horizon, and make a big bet.

00:11:40.180 When Scott Besson says that fake news, and he's talking about the business press that

00:11:44.400 he has read and consumed for decades.

00:11:47.440 When he says that the business press and the mainstream media, fake news is not stronger,

00:11:52.580 and this is why I've been telling those guys, disintermediate them.

00:11:55.780 Go to the stakes of the White House.

00:11:57.280 Get the boils of the world.

00:11:58.420 Get the best of this new ecosystem of reporters.

00:12:02.600 Talk directly to them and get to that audience.

00:12:05.020 And you're going to see a sea change here.

00:12:06.700 And what Besson says, fake news is not strong enough a term.

00:12:11.220 What do you think he means, sir?

00:12:12.200 Well, I mean, I think he's saying that the entire narrative that you see out there, we

00:12:18.260 walked through several of them, right?

00:12:19.760 For instance, the price of X, right?

00:12:21.880 Like he was talking about this in particular.

00:12:23.600 Now, it's not really his lane.

00:12:25.300 It's more of a Brooke Rollins USDA lane.

00:12:28.080 But the point is, is that he was like, look, the establishment media went nuts with this

00:12:32.420 whole price of X thing when they were on the way up.

00:12:35.760 But now that they're lower than when President Trump took office and on the way down, you

00:12:40.080 don't hear a peep out of them about it, right?

00:12:42.680 Like same thing with what you see with the markets, right?

00:12:46.700 When the market's all up.

00:12:47.920 If the market starts going well, then all of a sudden they're going to find something

00:12:51.020 else to go complain about.

00:12:52.280 The fact is, is that the, you know, we mentioned a couple other examples, like a New York Times

00:12:57.400 story and it's really specific.

00:13:00.840 And I think that, you know, when you start seeing very serious people like Secretary Besson

00:13:05.980 and others, and I know that he's in communication with several leading financial world folks,

00:13:12.180 right, from the banks to the private sector to other folks in other governments around

00:13:16.280 the world.

00:13:16.760 In fact, we talked about his meeting with Vladimir Zelensky, the president of Ukraine.

00:13:20.280 And the fact is, is that when, you know, there are serious people that are now beginning

00:13:27.180 to realize that the New York Times and the, you know, the CNBCs and like all these other

00:13:31.960 places, they're not that, they're so far off from reality.

00:13:37.380 It's, I think that these established media outlets are losing their credibility in a significant

00:13:42.020 way.

00:13:42.360 And I agree with you, Steve.

00:13:43.200 I think that the more that these people do serious interviews, like what we did, I'm not

00:13:48.220 sitting here asking puff piece questions.

00:13:49.800 I'm asking them serious questions, right?

00:13:51.380 If you go down my list of stuff, when you see the actual interview, we'll start coming

00:13:55.700 out with pieces of it tonight and over the coming days on Breitbart.

00:13:58.740 And so people should be on the lookout for that.

00:14:00.700 But the point is, is that, you know, I mean, these are serious journalistic stuff, right?

00:14:04.160 Like I'm asking him to explain it and I let him explain his piece and I, you know, but

00:14:07.880 I think that the, frankly, what you have is this Trump derangement syndrome that's infected

00:14:13.860 the entire establishment media.

00:14:15.900 These people are like, you know, the walking dead or something, right?

00:14:19.200 Like they're like zombies walking around infected with some killer virus that's just affected

00:14:23.860 their ability to think clearly like human beings.

00:14:27.060 They're broken institutions.

00:14:28.880 They're destroyed, right?

00:14:30.320 Like, and so, and they keep getting worse.

00:14:32.020 They keep digging deeper, right?

00:14:33.560 Like, so I think that what's going to happen here is that as they fade more and more and

00:14:38.880 they keep spreading more and more inaccurate information and fake news, we're going to continue

00:14:43.060 to spread the truth.

00:14:44.980 And we're going to talk about accurate stuff and we're going to replace them.

00:14:49.040 That's what's happening, right?

00:14:50.120 Like slowly, but surely we are moving into the void that has been left behind by the fake

00:14:55.520 news.

00:14:57.880 I get a couple more questions.

00:14:59.240 I just want to ask logistics.

00:15:00.640 You actually were able to film part of this interview.

00:15:03.940 Part of it was print.

00:15:05.000 Is the film part going to go up sometime tonight?

00:15:07.220 Can our audience anticipate they can go to Breitbart?

00:15:09.360 I'm sure.

00:15:10.020 It's a film interview.

00:15:11.340 We did a film interview.

00:15:14.040 That's why we picked this office to do it in.

00:15:16.280 It's on camera, the whole interview.

00:15:18.040 So it's on a print interview.

00:15:19.920 So we're going to have a piece of it tonight.

00:15:22.040 Our camera guys are here in the room right now.

00:15:24.880 The great Matt Purdy, who's standing right behind the camera here, is working on this with

00:15:29.160 us right now.

00:15:29.680 And I got to give a shout out to the whole Treasury Department staff.

00:15:32.120 By the way, Secretary Besson has a huge, great team.

00:15:35.140 Alexandra Priett, who I know you know well.

00:15:37.400 Rebecca Karabas, who's here right now in the room with us.

00:15:40.140 And a ton of great folks, like Sophie, and I'm not going to mispronounce her last name,

00:15:45.740 but Delqui, and Samantha Schwab, and so many others.

00:15:49.400 I'm leaving them all out.

00:15:50.500 The crew is great.

00:15:51.680 But the point is, is that our guys are going to cut a video, this video.

00:15:57.020 We're going to roll it out in installments, like the interviews I've done with President

00:16:00.020 Trump or Vice President Vance and others over the years when we do them on camera.

00:16:04.740 So what we do is we come out with a little clip, a little clip here, here, there, here,

00:16:08.460 there.

00:16:08.780 And then we roll the whole thing out over several days.

00:16:13.520 Perfect.

00:16:14.080 And the first clip will be out tonight.

00:16:15.740 People can anticipate that.

00:16:17.160 I believe so.

00:16:17.980 Yep.

00:16:18.280 We're going to move as fast as we can once we get out of here tonight.

00:16:21.160 So, yep.

00:16:22.500 That's the goal.

00:16:23.640 Okay.

00:16:24.080 A couple of questions.

00:16:25.380 What Scott Besson said to CNBC earlier, he said, look, we could have continued this massive

00:16:31.640 Keynesian exercise, this massive stimulus, we could have run up debt, we could have done

00:16:35.980 this for two, three, four years, but it's not sustainable and it would have led to a

00:16:40.140 financial catastrophe.

00:16:41.980 That's a profile and courage.

00:16:43.320 That's President Trump, the detox they're doing, this intervention in this out-of-control

00:16:48.900 spending.

00:16:49.820 Give me a second on that, your thoughts on that, because that shows real heroism.

00:16:53.940 You could have gone the easy path, but he decided to go the hard path.

00:16:58.020 What are your thoughts?

00:16:58.940 He, it's literally one of the core parts of the interview that I talked with the secretary

00:17:03.320 about.

00:17:04.040 It was one of the first big, I mean, first I got his reaction to the latest CPI and PPI

00:17:07.880 numbers and stuff, right?

00:17:09.080 Like, and some of the critics out there got some stuff wrong on Trump on prices, but then

00:17:13.820 went right into the reprivatizing of the economy is the way he talks about it.

00:17:18.540 And they said that it's a priority of his and President Trump's, because they know that

00:17:23.300 this was entirely fake, it was manufactured, there was no economic growth, Steve, right?

00:17:31.500 It was make-believe, right?

00:17:34.240 We're talking about funny money, not real numbers.

00:17:37.340 And what was happening is, because it was the government, it was entirely the government,

00:17:41.900 and they want to leave the country better off than they found it.

00:17:44.460 He said that, what you just said, he could have took the easy way.

00:17:47.980 He could have went just for a couple years, four years, kick the can down the world, keep

00:17:53.780 the government spending going, and keep the fake stuff going on, and not get the economy

00:17:58.280 back to being an actual economy, using real world, real money, right, rather than funny

00:18:05.220 money that the government makes.

00:18:07.540 And he talked about that, he could have took the easy way out and just kicked the can down

00:18:12.040 the road.

00:18:12.720 But the problem is, is that that's not sustainable for a nation.

00:18:16.660 It's just not, right?

00:18:18.020 Like, it's not sustainable for a nation in the long term, and he knows that, and President

00:18:21.380 Trump knows that, and that's why they are focused on actually turning this around.

00:18:25.420 And it was really refreshing to hear someone with the clinical, you know, the detailed, and

00:18:31.160 again, like, to your point, Steve, he's not a bomb thrower, he's not a fire breather,

00:18:34.500 right?

00:18:34.720 Like, one of us, right?

00:18:35.660 Like, he's, you know, he's a very clinical, straightforward, facts-oriented guy.

00:18:39.680 And, you know, he's like, all right, this is what we're going to do.

00:18:41.860 This is how we have to do it.

00:18:42.760 And then we're going to do it.

00:18:43.680 And then that's what they're doing.

00:18:45.700 So it's that simple.

00:18:48.480 Before letting you go, also, you just tied it together.

00:18:51.500 What you never see on mainstream media, and we have the multiple TVs consuming this all

00:18:55.260 day long, and our staff around, you never hear, oh, sure, I tell you what, Matt,

00:19:00.600 we're going to jump to the floor right now and hear Secretary Schumer, Senator Schumer

00:19:04.740 right now, I think conceding.

00:19:06.620 We'll be right back to you.

00:19:07.520 Republicans in Congress, meanwhile, have caved to his every whim.

00:19:15.340 The grand old party has devolved into a crowd of Trump sycophants and MAGA radicals who want

00:19:22.440 to burn everything to the ground.

00:19:24.660 Look no further than what Doge is doing.

00:19:29.920 Now Republicans' nihilism has brought us to the brink of disaster.

00:19:35.680 Unless Congress acts, the federal government will shut down tomorrow at midnight.

00:19:42.020 I have said many times there are no winners in a government shutdown.

00:19:45.280 But there are certainly victims, the most vulnerable Americans, who rely on federal programs to feed

00:19:53.940 their families, to access medical care, and to stay financially afloat.

00:20:00.720 Communities that depend on government services to function will suffer, and suffer greatly.

00:20:08.120 This week, Democrats offered a sensible way out.

00:20:14.500 Fund the government for another month to give appropriators more time to do their jobs.

00:20:20.980 Republicans rejected this proposal outright.

00:20:24.680 Why did they reject it?

00:20:26.580 Because Donald Trump doesn't want the appropriators to do their job.

00:20:31.040 He wants full control over government spending.

00:20:35.940 He isn't the first president to want this.

00:20:39.460 But he's the first president to cower his party into submission.

00:20:44.940 So that Republican rejection leads us to a decision.

00:20:50.280 That Republican rejection leads us to a decision.

00:20:54.740 And it's not really a decision.

00:20:56.420 It's a Hobson's choice.

00:20:57.620 Either proceed with the bill before us, or risk Donald Trump throwing America into the chaos of a shutdown.

00:21:10.020 This, in my view, is no choice at all.

00:21:15.160 While the CR bill is very bad, the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America that are much, much worse.

00:21:25.760 For sure, the Republican bill is a terrible option.

00:21:32.060 It is not a clean CR.

00:21:34.700 It is deeply partisan.

00:21:37.380 It doesn't address far too many of this country's needs.

00:21:41.420 But I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option.

00:21:51.820 And before I explain why, let me be clear about one thing.

00:21:58.780 No one on my side of the aisle wants a government shutdown.

00:22:03.100 Members who support this CR do not want a government shutdown.

00:22:08.100 Members who oppose this CR do not want a government shutdown.

00:22:12.080 Members who oppose this CR want the Republicans to take their responsibilities more seriously

00:22:18.260 and to negotiate spending bills that will address the many needs of the American people.

00:22:25.120 I respect them for that.

00:22:27.860 Unfortunately, though, this Republican Party is the party of Trump.

00:22:32.900 As bad as passing the CR is, as I said, allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option.

00:22:47.680 First, a shutdown would give Donald Trump and Elon Musk carte blanche to destroy vital government services

00:22:57.220 at a significantly faster rate than they can right now.

00:23:02.760 Under a shutdown, the Trump administration would have full authority to deem whole agencies, programs, and personnel non-essential,

00:23:14.920 furloughing staff with no promise they would ever be rehired.

00:23:18.960 The decision on what is essential would be solely left to the executive branch with nobody left at the agencies to check them.

00:23:31.720 In short, a shutdown would give Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Doge, and vote, the keys to the city, state, and country.

00:23:43.300 A shutdown would give Donald Trump the keys to the city, the state, and the country.

00:23:51.180 And don't take my word for it.

00:23:53.860 Musk has said aloud he wants a shutdown.

00:23:57.080 And public reporting has shown he is already making plans to use the shutdown

00:24:02.080 to expedite his destruction of key government programs and services.

00:24:07.080 Musk told reporters, if the job is not essential, or they are not doing it well,

00:24:15.720 they obviously shouldn't be on the public payroll.

00:24:19.340 Many federal employees and government experts are rightly worried that a temporary shutdown could lead to permanent cuts.

00:24:28.000 Third, or second really, second, if we enter a shutdown,

00:24:33.160 Congressional Republicans would weaponize their majorities to cherry-pick which parts of the government to reopen.

00:24:41.880 In a protracted shutdown,

00:24:44.660 House and Senate Republicans would pursue a strategy of bills to the floor

00:24:49.740 and would pursue a strategy of bringing bills to the floor

00:24:56.300 or to reopen only their favorite departments and agencies

00:25:00.180 while leaving other vital services that they don't like to languish.

00:25:06.020 Third, the shutdown is not a political game.

00:25:10.840 Shutdown means real pain for American families.

00:25:14.820 For example, veteran services.

00:25:16.580 I believe a shutdown could cause regional VA offices to reduce staff,

00:25:23.260 delay benefit processing, and curtail mental health services,

00:25:26.780 abandoning veterans who earned and depended on those resources.

00:25:31.220 Social Security and seniors.

00:25:33.440 I believe a shutdown could greenlight Trump to slash administrative staff at Social Security offices,

00:25:39.100 delaying new applications,

00:25:41.720 benefit adjustments,

00:25:42.620 and forcing seniors to wait even longer for the benefits they've earned.

00:25:47.500 Justice and courts.

00:25:50.580 Extremely troubling, I believe.

00:25:52.960 A shutdown could stall federal court cases,

00:25:56.300 one of the best redoubts against Trump's lawlessness.

00:25:59.640 It could require to furlough critical staff at the courts,

00:26:03.480 denying victims and defendants alike their day in court,

00:26:07.340 dragging out appeals,

00:26:08.400 and clogging the justice system for months or even years.

00:26:12.060 This administration has shown an unfathomable willingness to sacrifice American families and their well-being

00:26:21.500 to advance their own political agenda.

00:26:25.200 A shutdown positions them to do this on overdrive.

00:26:29.320 Finally, there is one more reason I oppose a shutdown.

00:26:34.840 President Trump and Republican leaders would like nothing more than to pull us into the mud of a protracted government shutdown.

00:26:43.660 For Donald Trump, a shutdown would be a gift.

00:26:48.840 It would be the best distraction he could ask for from his awful agenda.

00:26:54.500 Right now, Donald Trump owns the chaos in the government.

00:26:57.620 He owns the chaos in the stock market.

00:27:01.540 He owns the damage happening to our economy from one end of the country to the other.

00:27:07.360 The stock market is crashing.

00:27:09.620 Consumer confidence is plummeting.

00:27:12.540 Donald Trump is hoping for a shutdown

00:27:14.760 because it will distract from his true agenda,

00:27:19.400 delivering massive cuts to the rich,

00:27:21.540 paid for on the backs of American families.

00:27:24.940 He wants to gut Social Security, hollow out Medicaid,

00:27:28.920 slap taxes on consumer goods through his reckless trade wars.

00:27:33.060 In a shutdown, we would be busy fighting with Republicans over which agencies to reopen,

00:27:39.400 which to keep closed,

00:27:41.100 instead of debating the damage Donald Trump's agenda is causing the American people.

00:27:48.460 Mr. President,

00:27:49.540 I believe it is my job

00:27:52.280 to make the best choice for the country

00:27:55.060 to minimize the harms to the American people.

00:27:59.400 Therefore,

00:28:00.280 I will vote to keep the government open

00:28:02.780 and not shut it down.

00:28:05.920 There is nobody in the world,

00:28:07.620 nobody,

00:28:08.920 who wants to shut the government down

00:28:10.940 more than Donald Trump

00:28:12.040 and more than Elon Musk.

00:28:14.420 We should not give it to them.

00:28:17.120 And make no mistake,

00:28:18.980 Donald Democrats will continue to fight what Donald Trump is doing.

00:28:23.180 Everything that Trump, Musk, and Republicans have done so far has a clear goal.

00:28:27.880 Again,

00:28:28.860 cutting taxes for billionaires,

00:28:30.900 eviscerate Social Security,

00:28:32.440 Medicare and Medicaid.

00:28:34.080 This is the fight that matters most

00:28:35.900 and the fight we must focus on.

00:28:38.220 All the chaos we have seen.

00:28:41.040 All the lawlessness.

00:28:42.640 All the grift and corrupt behavior.

00:28:45.180 It's all about rigging the system

00:28:46.980 in favor of the ultra-wealthy

00:28:49.100 at the expense of working Americans.

00:28:51.660 This is the fight

00:28:53.300 the American people need to see.

00:28:56.080 This is the fight

00:28:57.420 that Democrats will win.

00:29:00.000 A shutdown

00:29:00.480 will be a costly distraction

00:29:03.080 from this all-important fight.

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00:32:52.420 You've just heard

00:32:54.300 an absolutely

00:32:56.120 stunning surrender

00:32:57.420 by Chuck Schumer

00:32:59.080 on the Senate floor

00:33:00.120 in a very weak

00:33:02.120 and sad speech.

00:33:03.240 I mean,

00:33:03.660 this means that

00:33:04.800 the Democrats

00:33:05.620 that had

00:33:06.120 for Schumer's shutdown

00:33:09.180 had all the possibilities

00:33:10.460 of shutting down

00:33:11.080 President Trump's

00:33:11.940 government.

00:33:13.300 have really just

00:33:14.860 acquiesced

00:33:15.800 to the Republican position.

00:33:18.500 It's absolutely stunning.

00:33:20.020 And 24 hours ago,

00:33:21.380 all they were doing

00:33:22.440 is smack talk

00:33:23.280 after smack talk

00:33:24.300 after smack talk.

00:33:25.200 They're going to do this.

00:33:26.000 They're going to do that.

00:33:27.780 Ladies and gentlemen,

00:33:29.500 President Trump's government

00:33:30.460 is not going to shut down

00:33:31.440 tomorrow night at midnight.

00:33:33.540 Chuck Schumer

00:33:34.160 has collapsed.

00:33:35.260 And I don't know

00:33:37.880 if Mark Kelly,

00:33:39.560 Mark Kelly came out

00:33:40.600 earlier and said

00:33:41.180 he was a no.

00:33:42.620 If Murphy's a yes

00:33:44.020 in

00:33:44.360 Connecticut,

00:33:46.760 I think that ends

00:33:48.060 his 28 campaign.

00:33:50.540 I don't see how

00:33:51.320 anybody

00:33:51.880 on the Democratic side

00:33:53.220 devotes

00:33:53.920 to side with the Republicans

00:33:55.920 because I know

00:33:57.340 Fetterman doesn't have

00:33:58.240 any presidential ambitions.

00:34:00.420 How they can justify

00:34:02.620 a national campaign.

00:34:03.720 Let me repeat this.

00:34:05.360 The Democratic Senate

00:34:06.480 has just surrendered

00:34:07.680 to President Trump.

00:34:09.620 The government

00:34:10.100 will remain open

00:34:11.120 tomorrow at midnight.

00:34:12.660 The temporary CR

00:34:14.100 has passed.

00:34:14.620 Remember,

00:34:14.980 we hate the CR.

00:34:16.040 It's the Biden budget.

00:34:17.180 It's $2 trillion.

00:34:17.640 None of the Doge

00:34:19.700 numbers in there.

00:34:20.820 But this audience

00:34:21.860 agreed,

00:34:23.340 right?

00:34:23.640 We had the backs

00:34:24.320 of the Congressmen,

00:34:24.980 the House Freedom Caucus,

00:34:25.940 all the members

00:34:26.560 hung together,

00:34:27.260 Berkshire,

00:34:27.600 because as bad as it is,

00:34:29.980 it was more important.

00:34:30.820 President Trump says,

00:34:31.620 I need this government

00:34:32.500 to stay open.

00:34:33.500 We have much more

00:34:34.620 to do on Doge,

00:34:35.380 but he says,

00:34:35.780 I've also got all these

00:34:36.600 other things I'm working on.

00:34:38.360 War and peace

00:34:39.280 and with Putin

00:34:39.980 and all of it.

00:34:41.300 He made a request.

00:34:42.900 He came out

00:34:43.480 on True Social

00:34:44.440 many times.

00:34:45.980 Also talked to people

00:34:46.860 around him

00:34:47.460 and we would echo that

00:34:48.540 and tell you

00:34:49.120 we were not a fan of this.

00:34:50.680 In fact,

00:34:50.980 we hate it,

00:34:51.580 but for the good

00:34:52.740 of the team

00:34:53.200 and what President Trump

00:34:53.960 felt he needed

00:34:55.080 at the time,

00:34:56.680 everybody would pitch in

00:34:57.780 and only Tom Massey

00:34:58.760 and I don't hold

00:34:59.700 against Tom Massey.

00:35:00.620 Tom Massey,

00:35:01.140 I think,

00:35:01.400 made a very principled.

00:35:02.640 Look,

00:35:02.960 I've got problems

00:35:03.660 with Massey

00:35:04.160 on other issues,

00:35:04.840 but here I thought

00:35:05.360 he laid it out.

00:35:06.600 We had the votes,

00:35:07.840 but I don't think

00:35:09.960 anybody on the Democratic side

00:35:11.880 because in a situation

00:35:13.960 you're in,

00:35:14.360 like you just had

00:35:14.900 this shattering defeat,

00:35:15.760 like we had it

00:35:16.400 in 2021,

00:35:17.160 the early months

00:35:18.080 of the steal.

00:35:19.120 After they stole it,

00:35:19.940 remember,

00:35:21.100 a third of MAGA

00:35:21.820 kind of floated away

00:35:23.020 because they were so crushed.

00:35:24.080 They came back,

00:35:25.640 particularly when

00:35:26.160 President Trump

00:35:26.680 went to Orlando

00:35:27.640 and spoke at CPAC

00:35:28.800 47 days after

00:35:29.960 he returned to Mar-a-Lago,

00:35:31.140 but at that time,

00:35:32.040 you remember

00:35:32.600 how you have to

00:35:33.760 kind of rally.

00:35:34.380 It's what you see

00:35:34.900 Rachel Maddow

00:35:35.500 trying to do every night

00:35:36.400 with progressives,

00:35:37.920 and then they have this

00:35:38.960 where the eight Democrats

00:35:42.140 essentially sided

00:35:43.200 with the Republicans

00:35:44.140 and President Trump

00:35:45.140 to keep his government open.

00:35:48.660 There's all types

00:35:49.760 of intellectual arguments

00:35:51.060 and quite smart arguments,

00:35:52.800 particularly from capital markets

00:35:54.100 and from the lords

00:35:55.440 of easy money

00:35:56.020 on Wall Street,

00:35:56.760 the hedge fund managers

00:35:57.600 and the investment bankers

00:35:58.600 that know Schumer

00:35:59.240 very well.

00:35:59.740 There's all types

00:36:00.480 of very rational arguments

00:36:02.040 you can make

00:36:02.600 that this is a smart position

00:36:04.060 and you have to do it.

00:36:06.040 But politics

00:36:06.660 is not always rational.

00:36:08.520 And in a situation

00:36:09.140 like this,

00:36:10.340 they need,

00:36:11.120 they're groping.

00:36:12.060 They're trying to grope

00:36:12.740 their way through this

00:36:13.480 and figure out

00:36:14.040 kind of what works

00:36:14.800 and what gets traction.

00:36:16.280 And the Democratic Senate

00:36:18.180 has just shattered that,

00:36:19.960 I think.

00:36:21.300 We've got a lot more

00:36:22.040 to get to.

00:36:22.440 We're going to get back to this,

00:36:23.260 but there's not going

00:36:24.140 to be a government shutdown

00:36:24.840 tomorrow night.

00:36:25.420 President Trump's

00:36:26.480 government will continue

00:36:28.080 on unabated.

00:36:29.720 This will take us

00:36:30.400 through the end

00:36:30.880 of the fiscal year

00:36:31.880 of September 30th.

00:36:34.460 At the same time,

00:36:35.380 now simultaneously,

00:36:36.180 two things are going

00:36:36.680 to happen.

00:36:38.200 Russ vote,

00:36:38.700 and Russ vote

00:36:39.200 got name checked there

00:36:40.280 by Schumer

00:36:41.380 from the floor.

00:36:42.800 Remember,

00:36:43.780 the doge cuts

00:36:44.700 that have been done

00:36:45.620 that they can identify.

00:36:47.960 Russ vote has said

00:36:49.040 they're going to prepare

00:36:50.060 packages for impoundment

00:36:52.380 and that that should come

00:36:53.700 relatively quickly,

00:36:54.780 maybe in the next month

00:36:55.580 or so,

00:36:56.280 so that they will bundle

00:36:57.440 those cuts

00:36:58.520 and we will actually get,

00:37:00.200 and we will actually get,

00:37:02.620 Chris Murphy is a no,

00:37:04.020 so he did not vote for it.

00:37:05.380 It's three hours ago.

00:37:07.800 Voting no.

00:37:08.600 Unbelievable.

00:37:09.400 Chris,

00:37:09.640 so Chris Murphy,

00:37:10.300 I got to find out

00:37:11.020 who these guys are.

00:37:11.900 I'm sure Blumenthal is one.

00:37:13.080 It's going to be

00:37:13.440 quite extraordinary.

00:37:15.700 Let's go to,

00:37:16.620 I tell you what,

00:37:17.120 let's go,

00:37:17.500 I want to play

00:37:17.980 the cold open

00:37:18.800 for Laura Loomer.

00:37:20.880 An attack today,

00:37:22.760 I would say a terrorist attack

00:37:24.280 at Trump Tower

00:37:25.760 by these out-of-control students.

00:37:27.940 Laura Loomer is very close

00:37:28.800 to the situation.

00:37:29.680 I want to play this

00:37:30.480 because I've got to get

00:37:31.080 this in tonight,

00:37:32.180 but Chuck Schumer

00:37:34.620 and the Democrats

00:37:35.360 have collapsed.

00:37:37.300 They've surrendered.

00:37:38.700 President Trump's government

00:37:39.660 stays open.

00:37:40.820 We're going to get

00:37:41.180 to the whole appropriation process

00:37:42.460 of fiscal year 26,

00:37:43.940 but in 25,

00:37:46.140 Lindsey Graham,

00:37:46.820 the guy I say in the Senate,

00:37:47.660 they're going to try

00:37:48.040 to work on rescissions packages.

00:37:50.380 Russ Vogt and OMB

00:37:51.400 are going to work on

00:37:52.480 impoundment

00:37:53.960 with the Doge team.

00:37:55.680 So there's a lot more

00:37:56.360 to go here on 2025,

00:37:57.800 a lot more fights,

00:37:59.220 headline,

00:38:00.560 they've surrendered,

00:38:01.840 and I imagine

00:38:02.720 that President Trump

00:38:03.380 might actually come out

00:38:04.040 and say something on this

00:38:04.980 or somebody at the White House,

00:38:06.200 and we'll cut there

00:38:06.820 directly live.

00:38:08.220 Let's go.

00:38:08.660 I want to play a clip,

00:38:09.620 and I want to bring in

00:38:10.180 Laura Loomer.

00:38:10.660 Let's go ahead and play it.

00:38:11.360 Number one,

00:38:12.620 raise us all.

00:38:13.820 Freedom,

00:38:14.480 freedom all.

00:38:16.180 Number one,

00:38:17.180 raise us all.

00:38:18.460 Freedom,

00:38:18.840 freedom all.

00:38:20.860 Number one,

00:38:21.940 freedom all.

00:38:23.040 Freedom,

00:38:23.380 freedom all.

00:38:24.220 Freedom all.

00:38:25.500 Number one,

00:38:26.560 freedom all.

00:38:27.580 Freedom,

00:38:27.940 freedom all.

00:38:31.520 Laura Loomer,

00:38:32.420 that is a riot,

00:38:33.620 ma'am.

00:38:34.940 What in the hell

00:38:35.940 is going on there?

00:38:36.880 And I see,

00:38:37.400 are those Jewish students

00:38:38.680 that are supporting

00:38:40.020 some of these terrorists?

00:38:40.840 I mean,

00:38:41.060 it's so confusing,

00:38:41.920 but that is in the beautiful

00:38:43.620 atrium of Trump Tower,

00:38:46.200 President Trump's

00:38:46.800 magnificent office building

00:38:48.120 on Fifth Avenue.

00:38:49.020 What in the hell

00:38:49.840 is happening in New York City,

00:38:51.100 ma'am?

00:38:52.100 Well,

00:38:52.540 Steve,

00:38:52.760 thanks so much

00:38:53.160 for having me on.

00:38:54.020 Just as I said

00:38:54.720 the other day

00:38:55.380 when I was educating

00:38:56.680 your audience

00:38:57.300 about the Marxist Jews,

00:38:58.740 this is a Marxist-Jewish

00:39:00.080 organization

00:39:00.760 by the name

00:39:01.480 of Jewish Voices

00:39:03.100 for Peace.

00:39:03.800 They are anything

00:39:04.520 but peaceful,

00:39:05.360 and there are arguments

00:39:06.700 to be made

00:39:07.320 that these people

00:39:08.280 are self-hating Jews

00:39:10.240 and also a lot

00:39:11.280 of non-Jews

00:39:12.360 who call themselves

00:39:13.580 Jews,

00:39:14.240 but they share

00:39:15.700 a Marxist ideology.

00:39:17.000 And so unfortunately,

00:39:18.220 as we've discussed,

00:39:19.320 there are a lot

00:39:19.780 of self-hating

00:39:20.400 Jewish individuals

00:39:21.300 within the Jewish community

00:39:22.860 who love Islam

00:39:25.780 more than they love

00:39:27.300 their own self-preservation,

00:39:28.840 and that's what

00:39:29.580 these Jews are doing,

00:39:30.600 and that's what

00:39:31.040 a lot of these

00:39:31.740 individuals,

00:39:33.160 Marxist individuals,

00:39:34.120 cosplaying as Jews

00:39:35.300 in Trump Tower today

00:39:37.020 were doing.

00:39:37.760 They were protesting

00:39:39.700 against President Trump's

00:39:40.840 deportation order

00:39:41.900 of a Palestinian national,

00:39:44.260 Syrian-born individual

00:39:45.980 by the name

00:39:46.580 of Mahmoud Khalil,

00:39:48.140 who was one

00:39:48.780 of the main agitators

00:39:49.940 and organizers

00:39:50.980 of these pro-Hamas riots,

00:39:53.340 Steve,

00:39:53.500 that we saw

00:39:54.000 at Columbia University

00:39:55.140 in coordination

00:39:56.240 with other Muslim

00:39:57.280 Brotherhood-tied organizations

00:39:58.660 like Students

00:39:59.340 for Justice in Palestine

00:40:00.460 and Faculty and Staff

00:40:01.920 for Justice in Palestine.

00:40:03.260 And I wanna go ahead

00:40:04.260 and break some exclusive news

00:40:06.160 on your show.

00:40:06.860 I was about to

00:40:08.060 post this on X,

00:40:09.200 but I figured that

00:40:10.200 I would just break it live

00:40:11.240 here on War Room, Steve.

00:40:13.440 According to my investigation,

00:40:15.280 I've uncovered

00:40:15.860 that Joshua Doubler,

00:40:18.020 the individual

00:40:18.600 who I exposed

00:40:19.480 on your show

00:40:20.140 two days ago,

00:40:21.180 that is the brother-in-law

00:40:22.820 of Judge Jesse Furman,

00:40:24.540 the judge who is overseeing

00:40:26.160 and struck down

00:40:27.180 President Trump's

00:40:28.340 deportation order

00:40:29.520 of Mahmoud Khalil.

00:40:31.080 His brother-in-law,

00:40:32.180 Joshua Doubler,

00:40:33.100 happens to be

00:40:34.040 a member

00:40:34.700 of the Rochester chapter

00:40:36.840 of Jewish Voices for Peace,

00:40:39.260 the same group, Steve,

00:40:40.780 that just decided

00:40:42.040 to carry out

00:40:42.900 a domestic terrorist attack

00:40:44.300 in the lobby

00:40:45.160 of Trump Tower

00:40:46.260 in New York City.

00:40:47.460 So if this conflict

00:40:48.580 of interest

00:40:49.120 wasn't already

00:40:49.980 great enough

00:40:50.580 two days ago

00:40:51.320 when I exposed

00:40:52.380 the conflict

00:40:52.920 with the judge's wife,

00:40:54.460 his son,

00:40:55.000 his daughter,

00:40:55.600 and his brother-in-law,

00:40:57.000 is it not

00:40:57.640 an even greater conflict

00:40:58.760 today knowing

00:40:59.820 that a blood relative

00:41:01.340 by marriage,

00:41:03.000 okay,

00:41:03.260 his wife's,

00:41:04.040 the judge's wife's

00:41:05.340 blood brother,

00:41:06.600 his brother-in-law,

00:41:07.920 is a member,

00:41:09.400 Steve,

00:41:09.700 of this same organization

00:41:10.840 that just stormed

00:41:12.360 Trump Tower.

00:41:12.980 I mean,

00:41:13.100 it's just unbelievable.

00:41:14.440 I don't know

00:41:15.120 what the lawyers

00:41:15.960 at the DOJ

00:41:16.640 are gonna do,

00:41:17.380 but somebody needs

00:41:18.560 to present President Trump

00:41:19.700 with this information

00:41:20.620 because this is enough

00:41:21.840 information,

00:41:22.540 in my opinion,

00:41:23.380 for them to file a motion

00:41:24.820 to ask for this judge

00:41:26.280 to recuse himself.

00:41:27.400 I find it to be

00:41:28.240 incredibly inappropriate

00:41:29.400 that the judge

00:41:30.680 has ties to Chuck Schumer,

00:41:33.040 who President Trump

00:41:33.760 is criticizing

00:41:34.340 as being a Palestinian.

00:41:36.400 He has revoked

00:41:37.220 Chuck Schumer's J-card.

00:41:38.860 Yes,

00:41:39.080 President Trump

00:41:39.540 is that powerful

00:41:40.240 that he's stripping

00:41:41.240 Jewish people

00:41:41.960 of their J-cards

00:41:43.120 for being self-hating Jews.

00:41:44.860 You have the wife

00:41:45.900 who is currently serving,

00:41:47.760 I guess you could actually say

00:41:48.740 the wife is now

00:41:49.780 underneath the Trump administration

00:41:51.520 as a recently appointed member

00:41:54.200 under Joe Biden,

00:41:55.420 but it carried over

00:41:56.260 to the current administration

00:41:57.440 of the U.S. Commission

00:41:58.920 on International Religious Freedom.

00:42:01.480 Marco Rubio

00:42:02.240 and President Trump

00:42:02.940 have the authority

00:42:03.580 to fire her,

00:42:04.360 so two things need to happen.

00:42:06.000 The lawyers need to file

00:42:07.140 a motion to ask this judge

00:42:08.400 to recuse himself

00:42:09.340 based off the conflict

00:42:10.580 with the brother-in-law

00:42:11.360 and the wife,

00:42:11.900 and the wife needs to be fired

00:42:13.620 by the Trump administration

00:42:14.740 and be stripped

00:42:15.580 of her position, Steve,

00:42:16.660 on the U.S. Commission

00:42:17.600 for International Religious Freedoms.

00:42:22.960 I want to go to something

00:42:24.440 in a second.

00:42:27.440 I want to go back to something.

00:42:28.860 You're an advocate

00:42:29.820 for free speech,

00:42:30.720 are you not, ma'am?

00:42:32.320 Yes, I'm an advocate

00:42:33.340 for free speech.

00:42:34.340 I'm a free speech absolutist,

00:42:35.660 but acts of domestic terrorism

00:42:37.180 is not protected speech.

00:42:38.840 Hang on, hang on.

00:42:40.240 Okay, hang on.

00:42:41.180 So you're a free speech absolutist.

00:42:43.660 So people that have been showing,

00:42:45.340 you just said

00:42:45.860 that this was

00:42:46.380 a domestic terror attack.

00:42:49.700 Was it not just students

00:42:51.160 down there

00:42:51.800 doing the typical things

00:42:53.220 students do

00:42:53.920 when spring comes

00:42:54.820 and that's protest?

00:42:55.700 Or is this a domestic

00:42:57.280 terrorist attack, ma'am?

00:42:58.720 A lot of the people

00:42:59.520 who are members

00:43:00.380 of Jewish Voices for Peace

00:43:02.240 are not just students.

00:43:03.160 So I can't definitively say

00:43:05.780 that this was

00:43:06.260 a student-led protest

00:43:07.300 because Jewish Voices for Peace

00:43:09.160 has a coalition

00:43:10.160 of people of all ages

00:43:12.000 and backgrounds.

00:43:12.920 And so they're not just students.

00:43:15.160 You have a lot of people

00:43:15.920 that are middle-aged

00:43:16.840 and a lot of so-called

00:43:18.240 professional individuals, Steve,

00:43:20.080 who are members

00:43:20.880 of these organizations.

00:43:21.960 They all like to say

00:43:23.020 that they're students,

00:43:23.740 but as we saw

00:43:24.760 in the case of Mahmoud Khalil,

00:43:26.440 he graduated from Columbia.

00:43:28.800 He got his master's degree

00:43:29.860 and then they found him

00:43:31.060 in Barnard

00:43:31.660 just a couple weeks ago

00:43:33.040 even though he wasn't

00:43:34.000 currently a student.

00:43:35.320 And so there are individuals

00:43:36.480 that are not currently students

00:43:38.200 who are gaining access

00:43:39.520 to educational institutions.

00:43:41.660 They are engaged

00:43:42.580 in pro-Islamic terror activities

00:43:44.900 and they are now engaged

00:43:46.400 in pro-domestic terror activities.

00:43:48.800 And my question is,

00:43:50.120 how is it that these people

00:43:51.480 were able to go inside Trump Tower?

00:43:53.300 I mean, after two assassination attempts

00:43:55.100 on President Trump's life,

00:43:56.800 you would think that his properties

00:43:58.240 would be a little bit more secure.

00:43:59.700 I remember that I would get lunch

00:44:01.020 at the cafe and the restaurant

00:44:03.140 inside Trump Tower.

00:44:04.840 They have the best taco bowls,

00:44:06.480 really, honestly,

00:44:07.200 the best taco bowls ever

00:44:08.620 if you go to Trump Tower.

00:44:09.920 I really love their taco bowls, Steve.

00:44:12.260 But if you go to Trump Tower

00:44:13.640 and you get the taco bowl,

00:44:14.780 you literally have to go

00:44:15.760 through security

00:44:16.320 just to go eat a taco bowl.

00:44:17.660 So I don't know how

00:44:18.900 all of these radical protesters

00:44:20.960 were able to just storm in

00:44:22.700 without the police officers.

00:44:24.180 And now there is enhanced security.

00:44:25.840 And from my understanding,

00:44:27.340 even Secret Service

00:44:28.500 that is stationed there,

00:44:29.880 because it is my understanding

00:44:31.600 that and perhaps I'm wrong on this,

00:44:33.660 but last time I heard,

00:44:34.900 I believe that Barron Trump

00:44:36.300 is still living in Trump Tower

00:44:37.900 while he's attending university

00:44:39.560 at NYU.

00:44:41.820 So how is it that these people

00:44:44.320 were able to invade

00:44:45.360 the residential area of Trump Tower?

00:44:47.280 It just doesn't make any sense to me.

00:44:49.200 Well, yeah, I'm technically,

00:44:50.960 I don't know if that's a residential,

00:44:52.220 I think that was the atrium

00:44:53.060 of the office building,

00:44:53.800 the residential.

00:44:54.220 Yeah, it's the atrium,

00:44:54.960 but it's a residential,

00:44:55.660 it's a residential building though.

00:44:57.660 People still have to go

00:44:58.860 through that building

00:44:59.520 in order to access

00:45:00.340 their residences, yes.

00:45:02.500 By the way,

00:45:03.020 you're almost as bad

00:45:04.160 as President Trump.

00:45:04.940 President Trump

00:45:05.420 would take every opportunity

00:45:07.540 before he became president

00:45:09.320 or president-elect

00:45:10.120 to pitch the taco bowl

00:45:12.440 made at that restaurant

00:45:13.780 in the lobby.

00:45:14.360 He loved it.

00:45:15.280 He would eat it

00:45:15.780 at least once a week.

00:45:16.620 He was pitching all the time.

00:45:19.360 I want to go though,

00:45:20.180 your free speech absolutist,

00:45:21.780 many of the people

00:45:22.440 that you respect,

00:45:23.900 the people that are on the side

00:45:25.060 of the football

00:45:25.680 and have been fighting

00:45:26.520 this fight for many years,

00:45:28.080 are questioning

00:45:28.920 the graduate student

00:45:31.340 of why is he treated

00:45:32.900 like a terrorist?

00:45:33.840 Doesn't he just have an opinion

00:45:35.060 about the war in Gaza?

00:45:36.640 Doesn't he have an opinion

00:45:37.560 about how Israel

00:45:39.180 has conducted itself militarily?

00:45:41.080 Why is that not free speech?

00:45:42.840 Why is he being treated

00:45:43.860 like a terrorist

00:45:45.080 President Trump's administration

00:45:47.600 cutting off $400 million

00:45:48.740 to the allocated

00:45:50.560 of the, I guess,

00:45:51.820 couple of billion

00:45:52.400 at least that goes to Columbia?

00:45:54.320 And then why is he being deported?

00:45:55.760 Why is ICE having him?

00:45:56.840 And why does it look like

00:45:57.460 he's going to be deported

00:45:58.440 and deported immediately?

00:45:59.900 Ma'am?

00:46:00.960 Being in this country

00:46:02.360 is a privilege, Steve.

00:46:03.500 Just because you are

00:46:04.700 a green card holder

00:46:05.960 doesn't mean

00:46:06.580 that you are entitled

00:46:07.620 to the same free speech protections

00:46:09.660 as other people

00:46:10.900 who are United States citizens.

00:46:12.360 There's a difference

00:46:13.500 between criticizing foreign policy

00:46:15.620 with Israel, Steve,

00:46:16.520 and then passing out flyers

00:46:18.420 calling for an intifada revolution.

00:46:21.100 Okay, they want to have

00:46:21.900 an Islamic caliphate

00:46:22.840 here in America.

00:46:24.040 They are organizing

00:46:25.280 with groups that are found

00:46:26.560 to be tied

00:46:27.020 to the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:46:28.300 And I just want to remind everybody

00:46:29.700 that if it weren't for Eric Holder,

00:46:31.900 okay, Barack Hussein Obama's

00:46:33.980 Attorney General

00:46:34.680 and Barack Hussein Obama,

00:46:36.340 our first Muslim president,

00:46:38.500 okay, and he was a Muslim,

00:46:39.620 our first Muslim president, Steve,

00:46:42.040 we would have had

00:46:42.880 all of these organizations

00:46:44.080 shut down.

00:46:44.920 The Holy Land Foundation

00:46:46.020 Terrorism Trial,

00:46:46.960 which was the largest terrorism trial

00:46:48.340 in United States history, Steve,

00:46:49.840 had all these groups listed,

00:46:51.940 all these groups ready

00:46:52.980 to be shut down

00:46:54.040 and prosecuted

00:46:54.920 for taking and facilitating

00:46:57.100 financial transactions

00:46:58.480 with groups like Hamas

00:46:59.720 and the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:47:00.960 But now we have

00:47:02.060 this proliferation

00:47:03.200 of Islamic activity

00:47:04.660 on college campuses

00:47:05.780 because the Muslim Students Association,

00:47:08.120 which was the first offshoot

00:47:09.280 of the Muslim Brotherhood

00:47:10.480 here in the United States of America,

00:47:12.380 has been able to fester

00:47:13.820 and spread

00:47:14.500 like an uncontrollable cancer, okay?

00:47:16.900 It's like a termite infestation, okay?

00:47:19.960 And this is because of the actions

00:47:22.040 of Barack Hussein Obama.

00:47:23.520 And so if we want

00:47:24.740 to address these issues,

00:47:25.900 I think that it's time

00:47:26.840 for the Trump administration

00:47:28.120 to call for the DOJ

00:47:29.980 to reopen

00:47:30.600 the Holy Land Foundation

00:47:31.640 Terrorism Trial

00:47:32.360 and also to designate

00:47:34.200 the Muslim Brotherhood

00:47:35.060 as a terrorist organization.

00:47:36.360 That will eliminate

00:47:37.380 all of these people

00:47:38.580 in one little swoop.

00:47:42.400 Where do we go

00:47:43.300 to get your social media?

00:47:45.580 You've got a podcast now

00:47:46.700 on a couple times a week.

00:47:48.620 You're back up on Twitter.

00:47:49.820 Where do people go, ma'am?

00:47:51.860 Follow me on X

00:47:53.040 at Laura Loomer.

00:47:53.820 You can also subscribe

00:47:54.520 to me at

00:47:55.100 Laura Loomer

00:47:55.580 at substack.com.

00:47:57.200 And you can also

00:47:58.540 follow me on Rumble,

00:47:59.620 rumble.com

00:48:00.460 slash Laura Loomer

00:48:01.380 where I have my show

00:48:02.500 Loomer Unleashed

00:48:03.580 twice a week.

00:48:04.600 It's generally

00:48:05.460 every Tuesday and Thursday

00:48:06.680 but I had a bit

00:48:08.040 of a schedule change today

00:48:09.200 so I'll be doing it tomorrow.

00:48:11.060 And that's twice a week

00:48:12.340 every Tuesday and Thursday

00:48:13.380 9 p.m. Eastern live.

00:48:15.660 So be sure that you tune in

00:48:16.920 because we do a lot

00:48:17.740 of investigative reporting.

00:48:19.060 We're exposing

00:48:19.920 all these protests

00:48:20.920 and all the violent funders,

00:48:23.100 the people paying

00:48:23.760 for this activism

00:48:24.620 and domestic terrorism.

00:48:27.620 And where do people

00:48:28.820 go on Twitter

00:48:29.400 to get you, ma'am?

00:48:30.980 You can follow me

00:48:32.080 on X at Laura Loomer

00:48:33.500 and then you can also

00:48:34.460 follow at Loomer Unleashed.

00:48:36.480 That's the X account

00:48:37.700 for my show.

00:48:40.940 Laura Loomer,

00:48:41.680 always controversial

00:48:42.680 and a fighter

00:48:44.300 to the end.

00:48:45.000 Thank you, ma'am.

00:48:45.440 Appreciate you.

00:48:46.860 Thanks for having me on.

00:48:50.120 What happened

00:48:51.060 in the Trump lobby today,

00:48:53.040 I don't know

00:48:53.420 if I'd go as far

00:48:54.120 as Laura

00:48:54.720 and say it's a domestic

00:48:55.600 terror attack

00:48:56.700 but that was just

00:48:57.480 not a protest.

00:48:59.420 And the president,

00:49:00.240 you know,

00:49:00.400 this is a guy

00:49:00.880 that they tried

00:49:01.500 to put in prison

00:49:02.220 for 700 years.

00:49:03.560 They've tried

00:49:03.980 to assassinate

00:49:04.880 a couple of times.

00:49:06.180 They tried to bankrupt.

00:49:07.780 And now,

00:49:08.140 I don't know why

00:49:09.060 New York City Authority,

00:49:10.320 Secret Service,

00:49:11.100 I agree with Laura.

00:49:12.820 You know,

00:49:13.000 I've worked,

00:49:13.520 that's where we ran

00:49:14.180 the campaign,

00:49:14.920 that was the atrium

00:49:16.000 for Trump Tower,

00:49:17.200 the business side.

00:49:18.000 The residence

00:49:18.800 is actually

00:49:19.520 on the side street

00:49:20.960 and the lobby

00:49:21.360 is quite small.

00:49:22.080 It is connected.

00:49:24.060 It is hard

00:49:24.680 to find the connections,

00:49:25.600 thank God,

00:49:26.080 you would have had

00:49:26.520 those rioters in there.

00:49:27.980 But I don't,

00:49:28.920 I can't understand

00:49:30.220 with the protection

00:49:31.940 President Trump has

00:49:32.980 and we know

00:49:33.640 he's under increasing,

00:49:35.880 in fact,

00:49:36.380 can we get the,

00:49:37.000 I want the Civil War

00:49:37.780 comment that we played

00:49:38.700 for the beginning.

00:49:39.340 I want to play this

00:49:40.200 because the rhetoric

00:49:41.100 is heating up.

00:49:41.700 So much is happening

00:49:45.560 today.

00:49:45.960 I was going to get

00:49:46.580 to the Mike Turner,

00:49:47.840 I was going to talk

00:49:48.260 about Russia,

00:49:48.740 I was going to talk

00:49:49.240 about Putin,

00:49:50.720 President Trump

00:49:51.300 was adamant today,

00:49:52.740 but so much has happened.

00:49:54.160 Let's play this clip

00:49:55.040 that we started

00:49:55.660 the show

00:49:56.680 a couple hours ago.

00:49:58.260 I want to say,

00:49:58.740 because I want this

00:49:59.320 to set kind of

00:49:59.960 the foundation

00:50:00.480 of what just happened

00:50:01.400 with the surrender

00:50:02.220 of the Senate

00:50:04.300 led by Chuck Schumer.

00:50:05.700 Let's go and play this.

00:50:07.160 Do all congressional

00:50:08.300 Democrats believe

00:50:09.220 that President Trump

00:50:10.440 is pushing

00:50:10.900 for a Civil War?

00:50:12.160 I can't speak

00:50:13.180 for everyone.

00:50:14.200 I can,

00:50:14.660 and certainly

00:50:15.360 Ms. Waters

00:50:16.500 made her position clear.

00:50:19.160 Do you, ma'am?

00:50:19.940 Do I think he's,

00:50:21.220 you know,

00:50:21.840 let me say this.

00:50:23.460 It is very clear

00:50:24.980 that what

00:50:26.260 Donald Trump

00:50:27.440 is doing right now

00:50:28.420 is violently

00:50:29.900 impacting

00:50:32.020 the communities

00:50:32.900 that we represent.

00:50:34.800 Whether that

00:50:35.660 ultimately ends

00:50:36.780 in a Civil War

00:50:37.520 remains to be seen.

00:50:38.540 Well, if that

00:50:41.360 ends in a Civil War,

00:50:42.660 that is the house.

00:50:44.780 They're sitting

00:50:45.420 there preaching,

00:50:46.260 you know,

00:50:46.540 you're right on the

00:50:47.340 cusp of the Civil War.

00:50:50.300 Chuck Schumer

00:50:51.140 just surrendered

00:50:52.920 and said

00:50:54.240 President Trump's

00:50:55.280 government

00:50:55.820 will continue

00:50:56.500 on unabated

00:50:57.400 until September 30th,

00:50:59.120 fully financed.

00:51:01.220 It's a shocker.

00:51:02.860 And I got to tell you,

00:51:04.640 the Democrats

00:51:05.360 are going to feel

00:51:06.700 like they're gutted.

00:51:08.640 I believe

00:51:09.560 the Democrats

00:51:10.280 don't feel,

00:51:12.560 the few working class

00:51:13.520 people there,

00:51:14.060 they don't feel

00:51:14.500 like anybody

00:51:15.200 represents them.

00:51:16.000 They don't feel

00:51:16.340 like anybody

00:51:16.700 fights with them.

00:51:17.340 This is why

00:51:17.740 I'm trying to do

00:51:18.440 more outreach

00:51:19.740 to some of these

00:51:20.920 Democrat,

00:51:21.620 you know,

00:51:22.520 or independent

00:51:23.240 podcasts

00:51:24.520 and TV shows

00:51:25.860 to reach out

00:51:26.920 to these people

00:51:27.340 and say,

00:51:27.760 hey,

00:51:28.400 you may not like

00:51:29.380 everything

00:51:29.860 that we stand for,

00:51:30.940 but you're going

00:51:31.280 to like enough

00:51:31.860 that you can join us now

00:51:32.860 because we're going

00:51:33.300 to fight through

00:51:33.800 to the end

00:51:34.320 for more populist

00:51:35.760 nationalist policies.

00:51:36.820 They're looking

00:51:37.320 for somebody

00:51:37.920 to stand up

00:51:38.700 and fight for them.

00:51:40.220 And right now,

00:51:41.040 Schumer

00:51:41.360 and,

00:51:42.500 you know,

00:51:43.460 seven other

00:51:44.100 of his colleagues

00:51:44.780 combined to cave

00:51:46.600 to this,

00:51:49.240 to a,

00:51:49.840 a CR,

00:51:51.800 which they had

00:51:52.340 every opportunity

00:51:53.120 to force Trump

00:51:54.040 to shut down

00:51:54.980 the government.

00:51:55.420 This is a massive,

00:51:57.000 massive,

00:51:57.900 massive political victory

00:51:59.180 for President Trump.

00:52:00.780 His negotiating skills

00:52:02.240 and quite frankly,

00:52:03.120 calling people's bluffs.

00:52:05.140 I think he did it

00:52:05.920 with Zelensky.

00:52:07.400 He's got,

00:52:07.840 everything wants

00:52:08.540 to Zelensky.

00:52:09.100 It's going to be

00:52:09.520 much harder

00:52:09.980 with the Russians.

00:52:10.860 I would hope

00:52:11.280 that they would

00:52:11.680 take the big picture

00:52:12.500 for the rapprochement.

00:52:14.180 President Trump's

00:52:14.800 always going to get

00:52:15.420 quite engaged here.

00:52:17.040 You've seen,

00:52:17.780 I think he's also said

00:52:18.700 the word is that

00:52:19.200 they want Scott Besson

00:52:20.200 out more in front

00:52:21.360 on some of these

00:52:21.980 economic things.

00:52:22.880 I can't wait

00:52:23.480 for Matt Boyle's,

00:52:25.160 for Matt Boyle's

00:52:26.220 presentation tonight.

00:52:27.600 We're going to see that.

00:52:28.180 I'm sure Kane

00:52:28.660 at Citizens Free Press

00:52:29.540 will have the first clip,

00:52:30.420 so we'll be looking

00:52:30.860 forward to that.

00:52:32.180 Gold hit $3,000

00:52:33.700 during the show.

00:52:35.440 That may back off

00:52:36.440 a little bit

00:52:36.820 since maybe the crisis

00:52:37.720 is passing,

00:52:38.480 but look,

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00:52:39.520 the spot price.

00:52:40.300 It's about the convergence

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00:52:42.280 Make sure you go to,

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00:52:53.480 why are these central banks

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00:52:55.560 buying gold at record rates?

00:52:57.800 What has happened here?

00:52:58.700 What has happened?

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00:53:25.480 We'll talk maybe more

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Bannon's War Room - March 14, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 724： Schumer Caves Leaves Shutdown In Hands Of Progressive Dems

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