Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 743： Tariffs Building Productivity; Truth Behind US Energy Production

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.720 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.920 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.220 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.120 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.580 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.320 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.240 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.500 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.920 Mega Media.

00:00:28.820 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.700 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.460 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.840 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:54.020 All right, Dave Bratt in the War Room,

00:00:56.180 continuing on to the great Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:59.380 Back when they put Stephen K. Bannon in prison for absolutely no good reason.

00:01:05.740 Never forget that.

00:01:06.780 What they tried to do to trump Bannon, Navarro, what they did do to them.

00:01:11.300 16, 20, still ongoing.

00:01:13.780 That's the fight we're in.

00:01:14.660 It's not over, as Bannon just told us for the last hour.

00:01:19.780 China is not going to give us the keys, as he always says.

00:01:23.660 And in the midst of this, it's just shocking that the U.S.

00:01:28.060 mainstream media press corps, et cetera, is coming to the defense of I don't know who.

00:01:35.060 The Chinese Marxist, communist, globalists.

00:01:39.060 It's just stunning as I read the headlines screaming in here.

00:01:43.580 Trump, why is Trump doing tariffs?

00:01:47.880 Is there some self-interest I'm missing?

00:01:50.840 He's tariffing the rest of the world to get American manufacturing back,

00:01:54.700 to increase productivity, to make sure the American worker gets some pay for once in 40 years.

00:02:00.880 All the stats are on his side.

00:02:03.120 You don't hear from any economists.

00:02:04.800 You don't hear from any of the think tanks who are on, as Natalie showed us in the last segment,

00:02:10.760 who are all on the China payroll, right?

00:02:13.880 The D.C. think tanks, one after the other.

00:02:16.960 Go check and see where they're all funded from.

00:02:19.460 And then all of a sudden, you see why the mainstream economists won't touch any of it?

00:02:23.100 Because their universities are all funded by these major foundations.

00:02:26.400 All political views are my own.

00:02:29.240 So back when Steve was in prison, I got to host the show.

00:02:33.780 And one of my favorite guests always was Josh Hammer with Newsweek.

00:02:39.220 And so I wanted him on to give us some context on this mainstream media framing.

00:02:45.240 Who's really in charge, Josh?

00:02:47.180 Is it the billionaire class?

00:02:49.180 Is it the media class?

00:02:50.600 Is it the establishment class?

00:02:52.360 Is it the Democrat Marxist wing of the Democrat Party where the liberals are AWOL?

00:02:58.100 Who's running the show?

00:02:59.280 Josh Hammer.

00:02:59.880 Thanks for being with us, brother.

00:03:01.700 Dave, my pleasure.

00:03:02.620 Great to see you as always.

00:03:03.500 Look, I think it's a combination of all the above.

00:03:05.740 I mean, I think it's basically all the actors that you just named.

00:03:08.220 I think often about what Andrew Breitbart, the late great Andrew Breitbart, what he referred

00:03:12.200 to as the Democrat media complex.

00:03:14.620 That was his phrasing.

00:03:16.620 I mean, they are the ones who call the shots, Dave.

00:03:19.320 They are the ones who call the shots in all of the corridors of power in America.

00:03:22.880 And they've been doing so for a very, very long time.

00:03:25.860 They're certainly the ones who call the shots when it comes above all to the corporate

00:03:28.900 mainstream media.

00:03:29.940 You know, it's funny that they don't even pretend to take America's side, right?

00:03:35.720 I mean, they don't even for a second pretend to actually take the interests of the American

00:03:40.560 people here.

00:03:41.520 So, you know, after these tariffs went into place there, it was very clear that this was

00:03:46.880 going to be the lay of the land for the foreseeable future.

00:03:49.300 By the way, no one can say they didn't see this coming.

00:03:52.060 Donald Trump has been consistent on the issue of tariffs literally for longer than I have been

00:03:56.080 alive.

00:03:56.580 I was born in 1989, the year that the Berlin Wall fell.

00:03:59.700 Donald Trump has been a – I call him a class trader, a class trader par excellence, frankly,

00:04:05.340 because he is the one among ultra-millionaires, billionaires who was outspoken against the

00:04:10.020 rise of China, against laissez-faire fundamentalism, neoliberalism on the global stage, outsourcing

00:04:15.960 or manufacturing, rooting up entire supply chains.

00:04:18.220 He was always, always, always opposed to that, going back to his earliest days in the media,

00:04:22.720 Oprah Winfrey show, the New York tabloids, 1980s.

00:04:25.260 You name it, this has been his issue there.

00:04:28.120 So you knew that this was going to stay there.

00:04:30.000 And the media had an opportunity once they saw this, OK, this guy who's been singing the

00:04:33.800 same tune on this for four and a half, five decades, he's finally now back in power.

00:04:37.880 He's doing it there.

00:04:39.140 You had a choice, media, to say that you're going to side with the American people once

00:04:43.760 we're in a trade war.

00:04:44.620 You hope that we win the trade war there.

00:04:46.280 I mean, it kind of reminds me, frankly, of the same people who were rooting against America

00:04:50.220 back in the early 2000s in a very different kind of war, in a foreign policy conflict

00:04:54.020 against Al-Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, places like that there.

00:04:57.500 And the media just consistently chooses to side against the American people.

00:05:01.560 It's not even siding against Donald Trump.

00:05:03.280 I get it.

00:05:03.660 You guys don't like Donald Trump.

00:05:05.080 You're allowed to have that opinion.

00:05:07.000 But it's a totally different thing to side against the American people.

00:05:12.180 They've basically been rooting for the stock market to collapse, David.

00:05:14.820 I mean, I think of people in the New York Times, I mean, if they're happy that the market

00:05:19.800 recovered nine and a half percent today, frankly, I missed it because, again, they don't have

00:05:24.320 the American people's interests at heart.

00:05:26.720 They are so reliant, so reliant upon the Chinese Communist Party, Wall Street, the Fortune 500 0.99

00:05:32.460 when it comes to exports, when it comes to consumers, when it comes to business there.

00:05:35.740 The incentives simply are not aligned.

00:05:38.300 Donald Trump's the guy who is uniquely positioned as someone of his heft, of his net worth, again, 0.73

00:05:43.300 because he is this class traitor par excellence, he's uniquely positioned to take his sledgehammer 0.84

00:05:47.480 to the status quo. 0.96

00:05:48.560 That, of course, is exactly what he's doing.

00:05:52.360 Yeah, and in the first hour, I mentioned old St. Augustine, you know, the absence of the

00:05:58.660 good.

00:05:59.420 Communism rejects God.

00:06:01.080 They reject metaphysics.

00:06:03.000 They reject philosophy.

00:06:04.180 They reject the existence of ideas.

00:06:06.460 They reject the idea of a good in the first place.

00:06:10.640 And we're in a crazy place when it comes to morality, because I really do, Trump was raised

00:06:17.360 in Queens, kind of like the outsider motif, maybe a little bit you were, you know, getting

00:06:21.660 at.

00:06:22.380 And then he had some background, the Presbyterian mother, I think, and Norman Vincent Peale, and

00:06:27.100 a basically positive outlook.

00:06:30.000 But then he's rough and tumble construction, and he ain't going to wear religion or anything

00:06:34.360 on his sleeve, et cetera.

00:06:36.740 And he certainly doesn't want to be perceived as being weak or pious or a moralizer.

00:06:43.680 But on the other hand, if you look in Protestant theology, we got these guys that do, you know,

00:06:49.880 sphere sovereignty.

00:06:51.360 If you, God operates in different spheres in different ways, right?

00:06:55.220 We're not doing pastoral counseling right here, right, with China.

00:06:58.260 This is real politic, and Trump seems to be a master craftsman in this sphere.

00:07:05.540 And it seems to me, as I said earlier, he doesn't have any self-interest I can detect

00:07:11.260 in sticking up for the American people.

00:07:13.680 He really is all in, because I think he really does care.

00:07:18.060 And when he's in the middle of those crowds, you can just see him beaming.

00:07:21.080 He loves to be with people.

00:07:23.540 And I think he's really sick of the elites.

00:07:26.200 I think he does, I don't want to say hate or whatever, he does not love the elites.

00:07:32.020 And so what kind of moral frame would you view it in, or do other people view it in to help

00:07:38.520 the audience out there?

00:07:39.240 Because I do think it is very helpful going forward to frame this morally.

00:07:43.200 The left did that to us forever, right?

00:07:45.680 We hate the poor.

00:07:47.080 We hate the elderly. 1.00

00:07:48.140 Social Security, we hate everybody.

00:07:50.180 They're taking care of them.

00:07:51.400 Now I think the shoe's on the other foot.

00:07:53.060 And we got strong moral foundation to work from.

00:07:57.360 So there's a lot to unpack there, obviously.

00:07:58.940 First of all, I totally agree with you, Dave, that I think that the fact that Trump grew

00:08:02.220 up in Queens, he has this outer borough mentality, people in New York say would say, you literally

00:08:07.740 still see that today.

00:08:09.220 And this is a noble instinct, this instinct to kind of go against the grain to someone

00:08:13.180 who can actually arrive at some heterodox conclusions relative to what all of the group think, the

00:08:19.640 right-thinking people, so to speak, believe there.

00:08:22.060 But when it comes to moral framing, you know, Dave, you're the economist here.

00:08:25.400 But I mean, I studied economics in college.

00:08:28.540 I worked in economic consulting.

00:08:29.920 I studied law and economics in law school.

00:08:32.060 I mean, economics is all about trade-offs.

00:08:34.120 I mean, one of the first things you learn in your econ 101 class, your freshman year of

00:08:37.660 college, is that resource scarcity is a real thing, and that every decision that you make

00:08:42.140 is going to have something that's going to come out on the other side.

00:08:45.360 So for instance, if you go all in for consumption, you're necessarily going to diminish

00:08:49.360 production, vice versa there.

00:08:50.820 And Donald Trump's instincts on the issue of trade, namely that the so-called Washington

00:08:56.480 consensus, which came in after the fall of the Berlin Wall back in the 1990s, this notion

00:09:00.300 that we are going to maximize consumer surplus, we're going to minimize prices at any cost

00:09:05.900 necessary.

00:09:07.160 This has been a disaster.

00:09:08.280 And I'm not saying that I don't value having lower prices as a consumer.

00:09:12.020 I am merely pointing out that this has come at a serious, serious cost.

00:09:16.160 Anyone who's ever driven through the American heartland will be able to intuit this just

00:09:20.240 instinctively there.

00:09:21.640 I mean, I've driven through places like Toledo, Ohio.

00:09:24.520 I've stayed in hotels in Steubenville, Ohio.

00:09:26.560 You see, you literally see it, the actual cost here.

00:09:29.980 And we've seen this now in tangible form in recent years as well.

00:09:32.700 The baby formula shortage a few years ago, pharmaceuticals, PPE, personal protective

00:09:37.460 equipment.

00:09:38.240 Heck, Dave, the fact that we are even having an open discussion in this country right now

00:09:41.680 about whether or not America would go militarily defend Taiwan against a People Liberation Army

00:09:46.800 incursion from Xi Jinping, we're only really having that conversation because Taiwan's

00:09:51.580 semiconductor manufacturing company is the most important maker of the computer chips from

00:09:55.840 our iPhones to our F-35s in the world.

00:09:58.120 If America had not outsourced the most advanced computer chips to Taiwan, if we'd actually

00:10:04.360 been making that still at Intel and so forth here, we wouldn't even be having this geopolitical

00:10:08.900 conversation.

00:10:09.960 So, you know, I hear some of these absolutists, people like the infamous George H.W. Bush White

00:10:15.140 House economic advisor, this guy named Michael Boskin, he famously asked the following question.

00:10:19.560 He said, potato chips, computer chips, what's the difference?

00:10:22.520 Well, I'll tell you exactly what the difference is.

00:10:24.460 The difference is that we're not going to go to war or risk war against China for potato

00:10:28.860 chips, but we're actually having that conversation in real time when it comes to computer chips

00:10:33.320 there.

00:10:33.740 So, you know, this minimize price at all costs mentality has come at a severe, severe expense

00:10:39.260 when it comes to things like production, the fact that a country to be good has to actually

00:10:43.700 make some stuff.

00:10:45.160 We can debate what stuff we should make, but surely we should actually make some of it and

00:10:49.540 be self-reliant on at least some things there.

00:10:51.860 Fundamentally, the thing that Donald Trump really gets, because he came in there in 2016,

00:10:56.880 the same year as Brexit in the UK, the rise of people like Bolsonaro in Brazil and so forth.

00:11:02.360 Donald Trump fundamentally gets that the era of the post-Berlin Wall kind of globalization,

00:11:08.280 the era of globalization is over and the era of nationalism is re-ascended.

00:11:12.500 He gets that in his core.

00:11:14.260 That's what he's placing a huge wager on.

00:11:16.180 And at least as of today on the markets, the market is starting to vindicate that as well.

00:11:19.520 Yeah, maybe frame a little bit.

00:11:24.000 You know, I did my PhD in economics and supposedly we just described the way the world is.

00:11:30.080 There's no ought, right?

00:11:31.720 There's no ethical, this is good or this is bad, right?

00:11:35.680 We're just supposed to say the inflation rate is three.

00:11:39.500 And we're not supposed to say that's good or that's bad.

00:11:41.760 Of course, every economist does that.

00:11:43.560 And so this moral framing I'm after also has to do with what is not covered, right?

00:11:49.840 If you look at the media and you brought up, you know, I was born in Detroit,

00:11:54.120 so they hollowed out with the autos.

00:11:57.320 And now I'm in Lynchburg and we used to have shoes and textiles and furniture and a lot of that's gone.

00:12:04.300 And so it's interesting, right, even when I get and, you know, maybe comment on this, too.

00:12:11.760 I was in Congress and now when I get calls from local media, they're not really coordinated,

00:12:17.440 but they follow the headlines, right, from the majors and then, you know, state level, regional level media and the national media.

00:12:26.620 They all lead with, well, you know, our prices are going to go up and the stock market's jittery.

00:12:33.280 But there's no mention of Detroit or the loss of 5 million manufacturing jobs or the fact that productivity has been down for 70 years in a row.

00:12:42.240 It's at 2 percent.

00:12:43.800 And CBO expects us to grow at 2 percent for the next 30 years.

00:12:47.480 And so does Federal Reserve.

00:12:48.560 They're at 1.7 now.

00:12:50.900 No mention.

00:12:51.780 No mention of 15 million border invasion.

00:12:54.520 No mention of endless wars.

00:12:57.020 Dear Economist class, what's the cost of a million dead in Russia and Ukraine?

00:13:00.960 A million young dead boys laying there on the ground.

00:13:03.820 What's the price on that?

00:13:04.940 What's the cost of one human life?

00:13:07.400 Right.

00:13:07.620 And they abstract from that.

00:13:09.040 They don't want to get near it because they know if you engage that set of issues,

00:13:13.900 their conclusions are not going to be pretty to the funding class, to the billionaire class.

00:13:19.000 And so just back to you again on that, you know,

00:13:22.720 did these guys all arrange talking points or is it just laziness or is it corruption or is it funding?

00:13:29.840 What what leads this unified messaging on the left?

00:13:33.320 I think it's a lazy, stultified intellectual homogeneity.

00:13:38.480 I mean, you know, I mean, this is the ruling class.

00:13:41.180 I mean, this is what the late great political scientist Angela Cotavilla famously referred to in that 2010 essay as the ruling class.

00:13:48.140 These people all they all came up through the same gatekeeping institutions from K through 12.

00:13:53.600 They all into the same fancy private schools, the same universities.

00:13:56.680 They all attended the same seminars.

00:13:58.440 They got taught the same talking points.

00:14:00.460 And surprise, when they finally come into into positions of professional power and professional authority,

00:14:05.160 they all end up spouting the same platitudes and end up saying the exact same things there.

00:14:09.700 So, you know, I'm not sure that it's I'm not sure it's literally coordinated.

00:14:12.900 I mean, it wouldn't shock me if they have this certain substack chats or whatever there.

00:14:16.860 I mean, I mean, who am I to say that that that doesn't exist?

00:14:19.560 But I think it's more just a result of these same people going through the same institutions time and time again and ultimately arriving at the same conclusion.

00:14:27.320 But it's kind of ironic in a sense, actually, Dave, because, you know, again, these people, they work in the corridors of power,

00:14:33.540 whether it's whether it's the media, whether it's the Fortune 500 people there that that are heavily reliant on China for consumers and exports and so forth there.

00:14:41.540 But we wouldn't have the modern American financial system.

00:14:45.100 We wouldn't have the modern American economy.

00:14:46.820 We're not for one of my very favorite founders, Alexander Hamilton.

00:14:50.040 Alexander Hamilton is really kind of the godfather, so to speak, of the modern American economy, the first secretary of treasury.

00:14:56.020 Alexander Hamilton wrote a very, very famous and lengthy pamphlet that he presented to Congress back in 1791 called his Report on Manufacturers,

00:15:04.240 where he comes out swinging quite hard for an industrial policy because he knew that America has to be self-sufficient to actually manufacture and to make some goods.

00:15:13.400 This ends up becoming the dominant political economy in America throughout the entire 19th century.

00:15:18.860 Henry Clay of Kentucky, Abraham Lincoln, by the way, I mean, speaking of the moral case, no one more moral in American history than Abraham Lincoln, right?

00:15:26.100 Abraham Lincoln famously said one time, he said, my politics are short and sweet like the old woman's dance.

00:15:32.000 I'm in favor of an internal improvement system, a national bank, and a protective tariff.

00:15:38.580 He was a big tariff guy.

00:15:39.700 He was a big proponent of manufacturing and actually building stuff.

00:15:42.700 That helped lead the union to victory over the Confederacy.

00:15:45.960 Frankly, it was also the same industrial powerhouse from that same mentality that ultimately helped America prevail in both world wars.

00:15:52.580 So, you know, an industrial policy focusing on building stuff, whether it is semiconductors now, whether it was ships, munitions, and just textiles and goods back then, this traditionally has served America very, very well.

00:16:05.740 And again, we've gone so far away from this in recent decades there.

00:16:09.220 Donald Trump is simply trying to rebalance the playing field.

00:16:12.000 A lot of people are saying that this is kind of outdated nostalgia.

00:16:14.720 I don't think it is necessarily nostalgia.

00:16:16.400 I think he's just trying to bounce the pendulum from an economy that has gone way, way, way too far away from production and way, way, way too much closer to minimizing prices.

00:16:27.220 You know, I think back a little bit, Dave.

00:16:29.080 I'm a big country music guy.

00:16:30.500 The late, great Toby Keith, one of my favorite armchair philosophers himself, you know, he had this line in his 2011 song, Made in America, where he speaks about being willing to pay a little bit more for the shirt in the store than on the back of the tag it says Made in the USA.

00:16:45.280 And that's kind of like a, you know, that's a lyric in a song, but fundamentally as a basic point there, it actually rings true as well.

00:16:53.920 Yeah, excellent, Josh.

00:16:55.360 You brought us right to the transition.

00:16:57.160 I'm going to go to Rich Stern next to hit that manufacturing point and go over a few data points.

00:17:03.960 But I just want to thank Josh for being with us and helping out when I was helping to host the show.

00:17:12.820 He is one of the brightest, smartest, quickest, wittiest fellows we have on the program.

00:17:19.900 So thanks so much, Josh, for being with us.

00:17:21.520 God bless you.

00:17:22.000 Thank you.

00:17:23.860 All right.

00:17:24.540 I'm going to Rich Stern.

00:17:26.040 Rich, let me put up a few slides.

00:17:28.200 You just heard Josh going off on manufacturing.

00:17:31.400 That's what we're going to get to.

00:17:33.480 Denver, if you want to put up a few slides just so people can get Adam at home.

00:17:39.120 Josh, I'm just putting up a few questions here for you.

00:17:43.820 Who have you heard that's willing to defend the status quo, the current trade regime we have?

00:17:50.140 I haven't heard of anyone.

00:17:52.140 And then who can explain to us why American productivity is so weak right now and why China 0.82

00:17:59.880 is doing all the manufacturing, $5 trillion, when we're doing $2.5 trillion?

00:18:04.360 And then I'm just going to skip by that.

00:18:06.460 I've gone over these points over and over.

00:18:08.720 But the slides, the next slide, Denver, I'm just going to go over them real quick.

00:18:12.420 There's Trump's tariffs.

00:18:13.540 They basically reflect the size of the trade deficits against us, right against us.

00:18:20.380 And that's not a bad proxy.

00:18:21.800 They're being mocked.

00:18:23.200 But all in, the next slide, Denver, we got coming up.

00:18:27.980 It's a combination of these next two slides.

00:18:30.020 This is the total trade deficit in goods, $1.2 trillion to the far right.

00:18:35.900 The deficit just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger over time.

00:18:39.660 Next slide, Denver.

00:18:41.160 This is the biggie.

00:18:42.000 This is the Trump chart, Navarro, the Secretary Besant today.

00:18:49.060 The dark blue lines are the tariffs, but the light blue are the non-tariff barriers.

00:18:55.040 And you can see for most of the countries, these are the rich G20.

00:18:58.800 The non-tariff barriers are bigger than the tariff barriers.

00:19:01.780 And this doesn't include some of the other things, currency manipulation and other things

00:19:07.460 they've thrown in the pot for negotiations, especially with China coming up.

00:19:11.240 And then the last slide is just a slide I've put up over and over and over.

00:19:17.220 This goes 1950 on the far left.

00:19:19.620 And you can just see the productivity of our country is roughly the same thing as the wage

00:19:25.020 rate all the way through the dark green line and the light green line for the last 70 years.

00:19:30.580 That's going down, down, down, down, down to now 2% productivity.

00:19:35.520 And this is the leading guy in the world, Bob Gordon out of Northwestern.

00:19:38.760 And that matches exactly, that 2% number, matches our expected real economic growth.

00:19:45.660 Nothing was going to change.

00:19:47.420 The Congress certainly wasn't going to change it through policy.

00:19:50.880 And I don't know what the left's plans are.

00:19:53.300 I haven't heard any respectable commentary on that strategy there.

00:19:57.600 And so we're status quo until President Trump comes along.

00:20:01.500 And right there, Rich Stern, I teed you up.

00:20:05.420 Give us what you got.

00:20:06.500 Thanks for being with us, Rich.

00:20:08.360 No, thank you for having me on, as always, and going through all of it.

00:20:11.220 Look, I think to your first point on there, absolutely nobody defends the current regime.

00:20:15.760 You know, what happens here is when you talk to people who were against the tariffs in the

00:20:19.080 get-go, that you'd say to them, but look, there's all of these trade barriers, forced

00:20:23.360 labor, currency manipulation, everything you just went through.

00:20:26.040 And they'd say, yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing's perfect, but, well, no, the answer is, why

00:20:31.300 don't we go back and try to get rid of these problems?

00:20:33.320 And that is exactly what President Trump has done here.

00:20:36.220 He's taken an assertive stand to hold a mirror up to these countries and say, you claim to

00:20:41.320 be for free trade, and yet you maintain these barriers and all of these other practices.

00:20:46.500 And as you pointed out, China is the worst trade abuser in human history and has done so 0.96

00:20:52.280 at the expense, not just of their own people, which they have, but at the expense of hundreds

00:20:57.120 of millions of people around the globe, in the West, and of course, right here in the

00:21:01.660 United States.

00:21:03.060 So what Trump has done here is taking a real stand to force them to the negotiating table

00:21:07.900 to really get to a level playing field, one where American workers can compete and out

00:21:13.020 compete fairly.

00:21:14.520 And then as you brought up there, look, part of that is the story of declining productivity

00:21:18.820 and declining incomes, hallowed out small towns and industrial facilities.

00:21:24.400 But the other part of it, and I always say this, is as much as we're dealing with foreign 1.00

00:21:28.640 government abuses, we are also dealing with domestic government abuses.

00:21:32.800 Trump's broader agenda, doge, deregulation, tax cuts, spending cuts, are an attempt at dismantling

00:21:38.840 the deep state here in this imperial city of D.C. that has also been an oppressive burden

00:21:45.000 on American workers and families and communities.

00:21:48.340 And so I think what you see here is a total agenda from Trump, both on the foreign side

00:21:52.980 of it and on the domestic side of it, that is trying to loose these burdens, that is trying

00:21:57.560 to remove all of these government forces, both abroad and at home, who have impacted American

00:22:03.500 workers and strangled and siphoned off their production.

00:22:07.700 And so finally, we've got an America first president, but not just America first, American workers

00:22:13.060 and families and communities first.

00:22:16.400 Yeah, very good, Richard.

00:22:17.660 I forgot to give you a proper introduction.

00:22:20.020 Economic policy at the Great Heritage Foundation under the great Kevin Roberts, who I always

00:22:26.440 forget to plug, a great leader, a great political philosopher of the Judeo-Christian West and

00:22:33.620 all that goes along with it.

00:22:34.900 That's why you've got consistent ideas at the Heritage Foundation across the board, no matter

00:22:40.140 what you're talking about.

00:22:40.980 And so go look them up.

00:22:42.800 And then that brings me, Rich, to the—I hope I don't slaughter this thing—but all

00:22:49.320 of the—I just covered with Josh, the media framing on the left, right?

00:22:53.420 I don't know who they're working for.

00:22:55.920 Trump doesn't seem to have any self-interest in propping up the welfare of the American worker.

00:23:00.580 I can't detect how he's getting better off.

00:23:02.960 It seems semi-sacrificial to reveal his love for this country for real.

00:23:07.960 But why don't you give the folks—if you want to go run over how the left is—who's

00:23:13.380 in on framing this leftist narrative that's against helping the working class, that takes

00:23:19.100 some doing to work against democracy and the majority of workers.

00:23:24.220 And then also, what's the Heritage Foundation?

00:23:26.360 I'm a little too dated.

00:23:27.520 I used to come in all the time.

00:23:28.920 I think it was a daily caller.

00:23:30.300 And give the folks some of the options where they can find some good narratives on economics

00:23:36.240 and geopolitics.

00:23:37.460 Rich?

00:23:38.580 Yeah, thank you so much.

00:23:39.260 And thank you for the plug, and certainly for Dr. Roberts as well.

00:23:42.340 Look, what I would say to that is that you're right.

00:23:44.520 Look, the left is framing this in every negative way they can think to do in ways that make no

00:23:49.600 sense.

00:23:50.040 But it's the left, so what do you expect, right?

00:23:52.480 But I think into the segment you had before I was on, I think it's exactly right, right?

00:23:57.000 The left is not really attacking Trump.

00:23:58.980 They're not really attacking even us sitting here.

00:24:01.340 What they're attacking is something greater.

00:24:03.280 They're attacking Western values themselves.

00:24:05.760 They understand that that Judeo-Christian framework we're talking about, the notion that all of

00:24:11.060 us have dignity, that we have God-given rights that need to be respected, all of the ethics

00:24:16.540 about how we put our communities together, what is American civil society?

00:24:21.220 They hate all of these things.

00:24:23.440 And so when they are attacking any of us or Trump or any of our positions, that's really

00:24:29.160 what they're trying to do at the end of the day, is attack that philosophical, religious

00:24:33.360 foundation of the West.

00:24:35.380 And not only all of the prosperity that has brought humanity, but all of the goodness,

00:24:40.520 all of the morality, all of the strong communities.

00:24:43.120 They don't like any of those because they have a warped version of humanity that puts them

00:24:48.200 at the center of it, that gives them control over everybody's lives, where each of us finds

00:24:54.020 a value in providing service to those around us.

00:24:57.900 The left, frankly, finds a value in controlling everybody's lives.

00:25:01.860 It's sad, but that's the reality of it.

00:25:04.340 And so I think that's the important thing to remember when you look at the way that they

00:25:07.420 frame absolutely everything.

00:25:08.980 And certainly their assaults on all of these things we're trying to do as conservatives,

00:25:13.120 to get the government out of the way and let American workers and entrepreneurs do what

00:25:17.740 they do best to build for their communities.

00:25:20.140 And then thanks again, I said, for the plug, you know, we've got the Daily Signal, of course,

00:25:24.240 here at Heritage, but you can always go and look at my bio page, that of all the people

00:25:27.960 of my team at Heritage that work on econ policy.

00:25:30.980 And really this nexus you've talked about, but not just, you know, what is the mechanics

00:25:35.460 of economics, but the ought.

00:25:37.340 Why do we do economics, right?

00:25:39.140 And what kind of prosperity can that bring?

00:25:41.060 So thank you again, as always.

00:25:43.120 Yeah, Rich, 30 seconds.

00:25:45.420 Give me a one soundbite.

00:25:47.160 Where does that leftist egoism come from?

00:25:49.960 Or is it just natural?

00:25:51.120 Is it just man's natural egoism and concern for themselves?

00:25:54.900 And that's it?

00:25:56.800 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:25:57.620 I think it's man's natural egoism.

00:25:59.480 But you know, the way I would say it is, as conservatives, we believe the goal is to

00:26:03.020 suppress that.

00:26:04.160 It's to believe in a service theory of value that we should be humble about how much control

00:26:08.620 we have and serve our community.

00:26:10.920 And they believe in the opposite.

00:26:12.000 They believe in their own ego.

00:26:13.600 They believe in the labor theory of value.

00:26:15.660 The things have a value because they declare it to have a value.

00:26:19.000 They reject authority.

00:26:20.500 So yeah, it's incredible.

00:26:23.340 Heritage Foundation, John Roberts.

00:26:25.940 And thanks for being with us today.

00:26:28.520 Rich, you always do a super job.

00:26:30.300 The Heritage Foundation, everything.

00:26:31.800 All the disciplines in the liberal arts should explain the same reality.

00:26:37.120 All the departments at the Heritage Foundation explain the same reality.

00:26:40.940 Whether you're looking at politics or philosophy or morality or economics, the Heritage Foundation

00:26:47.300 is just super at uniting it all in one package that makes sense.

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00:33:46.640 All right, Doug, back to the war room with Mark Mitchell at Rasmussen Polling.

00:33:53.020 Mark's not afraid to throw in the ethical content with the data,

00:33:56.660 and he's very clear on what he's doing, when he's doing it.

00:33:59.500 But I think, Mark, the whole audience is dying to hear.

00:34:02.580 I haven't heard recently.

00:34:03.540 I hope I haven't missed you on the war room, et cetera.

00:34:07.120 But I'm dying to hear.

00:34:08.640 Where do we stand with respect to these tariffs?

00:34:11.740 And then, you know, a central question everyone was asking before the market went up is,

00:34:15.400 will the American people be able to bear this?

00:34:18.400 Will they stand by the president,

00:34:20.360 even if they do understand the good that's going to come out of this?

00:34:24.060 But we've become addicted to consumption, and we are a consumer society,

00:34:28.200 and there's going to be some trade-offs in a little bit.

00:34:31.240 We'll see what kind of tariff regime we end up with.

00:34:35.500 But as Steve said, it's not over.

00:34:37.060 So give us your best guidance on where the American people stand right now.

00:34:40.400 Well, your guests have been spot on, especially Josh.

00:34:44.900 What it boils down to is the era of Trump is literally about the establishment

00:34:49.400 doing everything possible to maintain control over the power structures that they have.

00:34:55.080 Listen, I think if you went back and charted the last 10 years,

00:34:57.920 billionaires are probably the maddest now than they've ever been in forever,

00:35:01.360 probably calling Trump and all the Republican senators behind the scenes,

00:35:04.820 melting their phones down, begging for exemptions and special treatments.

00:35:08.940 But I'll tell you, this is what people voted for.

00:35:12.020 Now, we can come at this from a couple of different directions.

00:35:14.660 I will say this is the first thing that really kind of has drawn a little bit of blood

00:35:18.280 from a Trump approval perspective, but not a lot.

00:35:21.800 And I think it's in the rearview mirror potentially.

00:35:24.220 But as of today, he's down to 47% approval, 52% disapproved, so underwater five.

00:35:30.820 That's still not bad considering how politically volatile everything's been for the last decade or so.

00:35:36.860 But already the overnight numbers look like they've stabilized and are coming back up.

00:35:41.260 And he did lose some support from Republican voters.

00:35:45.800 They had an approval in the 80s with a 65% strong approve.

00:35:50.620 Strong approves down to 53%.

00:35:52.700 And I would focus on right direction, wrong track though.

00:35:57.560 Right direction, set records at 48%.

00:36:00.240 We came on War Room and said that.

00:36:02.340 It's down to 42% right now, which sounds low,

00:36:05.720 but it basically averaged about 30% for all of Biden's term.

00:36:09.320 And this puts it at higher than 96% of all readings that we've had in the last 19 years.

00:36:15.420 So things are still pretty good.

00:36:17.620 And I think these numbers will rebound.

00:36:19.200 I think Trump's going to hang around the 50%

00:36:21.380 because I think that his supporters are going to be very sticky.

00:36:26.140 But obviously, there's a psychological operation going on right now. 0.96

00:36:30.140 This Black Monday thing was absolutely ridiculous. 0.99

00:36:32.420 Jim Cramer came out and made that call on Wednesday. 0.53

00:36:37.260 But what was wild is that every single one of these legacy media outlets owned by billionaires,

00:36:42.560 like with a dog in this hunt, they have a dog in this hunt.

00:36:45.120 They waited till Sunday to drop what was essentially a coordinated attempt,

00:36:50.040 I think, to tank the markets on Monday.

00:36:52.360 You can actually look at Google search volume for the word Black Monday.

00:36:56.700 And it spiked massively on Sunday because everybody's like,

00:36:59.580 oh, wait, what's going on?

00:37:00.720 All these articles.

00:37:01.480 And then you can watch the search volume drop off as the bell opens on the stock exchange. 0.73

00:37:08.480 It's absolutely ridiculous.

00:37:10.760 But we have tariff polling too.

00:37:13.480 The tariff polling itself is a little bit-

00:37:16.120 Before you go there, Mark, let me ask you one question on that right track thing.

00:37:20.960 Is there any breakdown in right track for me, right?

00:37:25.020 People naturally worried retirement plans, et cetera, versus right track for the country.

00:37:29.720 Is there a way of teasing out, like, you know, I can see where people get a little anxious for their own welfare,

00:37:36.220 their kids, if they get a little jittery and they don't understand what Trump's trying to pull off.

00:37:40.400 And so they might say, but I still – or are there any numbers that differentiate right track for the country versus right track for them?

00:37:51.180 Right track is like a knee-jerk temperature of what you're feeling right now.

00:37:56.440 That's what it basically comes off as.

00:37:58.400 It spikes and then abates.

00:37:59.800 And it's abating from a spike.

00:38:02.820 But what the political context is, is that going back decades, the economy has always been number one issue for voters when you ask them why they vote, right?

00:38:12.680 And the number of people who say the economy is important has not changed.

00:38:16.580 It's always like 80%, 90% say it's at least somewhat important.

00:38:19.680 But I went back and looked.

00:38:20.800 And what has changed is the question, are you better off than you were four years ago?

00:38:24.720 And back in 2007, the first time we have crossed tabs for that, people said yes by about mid-50s to mid-30s, like 20% positive.

00:38:36.260 That question got down to the low 30s.

00:38:39.420 So a stunning plunge just in about 20 years of people.

00:38:43.840 And so people say the economy is the number one issue.

00:38:46.460 But it's like, no, the Biden administration that literally broke people, that was the issue.

00:38:51.860 And they're voting against the government, not necessarily even against Kamala Harris.

00:38:56.760 And Trump has a mandate.

00:38:58.140 I don't think it's going to go away.

00:38:59.700 And what his mandate is, as we've talked about before, every single one of his policy items is more popular than Trump.

00:39:06.600 And so no matter what Trump's approval does, people are still going to want mass deportations.

00:39:11.220 And ultimately, the fundamentals behind the tariff polling are what is interesting.

00:39:17.160 Because you can get whatever result you want when you ask somebody questions about tariffs.

00:39:22.100 It really just comes down to what word you picked.

00:39:24.580 I tried to do it in the fairest way.

00:39:26.440 Should tariffs on foreign goods be increased or decreased?

00:39:29.760 And I got essentially the same amount of people say increased as decreased.

00:39:34.100 But here's the kind of stuff that we do that other people don't.

00:39:36.780 Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

00:39:39.500 If we do not protect our nation's manufacturers, we lose a fundamental part of who we are as people.

00:39:44.200 Making things, building things, and working with our hands is America's heritage.

00:39:47.780 J.D. Vance quote.

00:39:48.880 And it's like 73% of people agree with that statement.

00:39:52.520 And people say that the government doesn't do enough to protect manufacturing jobs, 45% to only 17% too much.

00:40:00.080 So it all comes down to jobs.

00:40:01.740 I have so much polling to support this.

00:40:03.640 Because the economy is not the stock market unless you're a money manager, billionaire, somebody who owns mainstream media outlets.

00:40:12.780 Like that's what it comes down to.

00:40:14.420 The economists at all of the colleges, the MBA schools across the country, everybody conflates the economy with the stock market.

00:40:24.060 And voters do not.

00:40:26.060 Right.

00:40:26.740 Very good.

00:40:27.640 Mark Mitchell, thanks for being with us.

00:40:29.340 Rasmussen.

00:40:29.940 Mark, give us a 30-minute summation.

00:40:32.620 What do you – you've been doing this for years.

00:40:35.820 Rasmussen has a great reputation doing this for years.

00:40:39.320 What's your 30-minute crystal ball looking like for what you'd guesstimate how we come out of this?

00:40:47.240 Well, predicting the future about how this plays out.

00:40:49.840 Like it just escalated today.

00:40:51.400 Essentially, Trump just declared economic war against China and turned the rest of the world against China.

00:40:56.380 So I don't know if China is going to go kinetic.

00:40:58.780 I definitely think we're in for a period of great change.

00:41:01.600 But there's so much stuff going on.

00:41:03.300 Even the statement about Chris Krebs.

00:41:05.340 What I can say, though, is that Americans are sticking with Donald Trump right now based on all of the things that he can't hang on, which were for the very first time a politician is giving people what they wanted.

00:41:15.860 Yep, I agree with you.

00:41:18.060 I think that's the bottom line right there.

00:41:20.600 I think there's a loyalty that's going in both directions, from Trump to the American people.

00:41:26.460 I cannot detect any self-interest on his part in what he's doing.

00:41:31.580 This is clearly guided to help the American people and help their jobs and wage rates going forward.

00:41:37.780 And so, Mark, thanks again for being with us.

00:41:40.120 You always do a great job.

00:41:41.140 Super.

00:41:41.480 Thanks again.

00:41:43.140 Thank you.

00:41:44.840 You bet.

00:41:45.400 You bet.

00:41:45.760 All right.

00:41:46.060 We're going to Dave Walsh.

00:41:47.580 Big energy news yesterday.

00:41:50.360 Lee Zeldin, a friend of mine in Congress.

00:41:52.580 Great guy.

00:41:54.740 Now our Secretary of Energy.

00:41:57.160 No one better to give us a summary of the coal news.

00:42:00.680 And then I think he's got a few charts for us.

00:42:03.180 And so Dave Walsh, executive extraordinaire in the energy sector over the years.

00:42:08.100 War room favorite on energy.

00:42:10.380 He's number one.

00:42:11.140 So, Dave, thanks for being with us.

00:42:12.600 And the floor is yours.

00:42:13.500 Just take it from here and call for the charts you want.

00:42:16.580 Thank you, Dave.

00:42:17.240 First on the coal.

00:42:18.280 The coal remains vital to our national energy security.

00:42:23.120 One needs diversity of energy supply for electricity.

00:42:26.740 It's gas.

00:42:27.540 It's coal.

00:42:28.260 It's nuclear that provides baseload power.

00:42:30.740 The president knows that.

00:42:32.140 That's what the EO is about.

00:42:34.160 That's what his statement about getting all of government behind the coal industry.

00:42:38.040 Coal is essential to national security because it provides, in this country, continuous duty,

00:42:43.560 baseload electricity that runs all the time, as opposed to solar panels from China that provide

00:42:48.640 four-hour, five-hour-a-day electricity.

00:42:51.200 Fundamentally important.

00:42:52.060 So, that's a kudos to him and Zeldin, what he's doing.

00:42:55.300 If you want to go to the charts, we can touch on the, how this, not those charts.

00:42:59.800 I picked out nine and ten in that pack there.

00:43:02.280 That's, I forget the charts then.

00:43:05.620 Here we go.

00:43:07.160 Solar panels the last five years.

00:43:08.840 Across the country, the utilities, the states have ordered, 91% of our new electrification capacity

00:43:15.840 in the country has been solar and wind and battery storage.

00:43:20.300 Only 9% has been baseload, continuous duty, nuclear, or gas.

00:43:25.340 So, 91% of what we've installed is, there you go, part-time.

00:43:28.380 The yellow is solar.

00:43:29.780 The green is wind.

00:43:31.100 The blue is a little bit of gas-fired technology.

00:43:33.520 You see the red is storage.

00:43:35.120 91% of what we've spent $400 billion on are solar panels and batteries.

00:43:40.860 And basically, 86% of that comes from China.

00:43:45.080 So, this is important because in the last five years, again, 91% of what we've spent money on

00:43:51.400 in power generation are two-hour to seven-hour-a-day devices, not 24-hour-a-day devices.

00:43:58.760 So, reserve margins have shrunk badly.

00:44:01.000 And this year, the pie chart is about this year.

00:44:03.040 There's nothing that the Trump administration can really do about the rest of the year.

00:44:07.120 This is embedded in state projects nationally by utilities.

00:44:11.960 Another 90% of this year's procurement of power generation equipment will be part-time,

00:44:17.540 part-time intermittent resources.

00:44:20.480 So, over the course of now six years, we've de-electrified the country.

00:44:24.480 This stuff is so intermittent and part-time in its capacity,

00:44:28.340 we've only grown the energy in this type of procurement across six years by 0.4% per year,

00:44:35.400 the actual energy value.

00:44:37.900 Say that again and say what that means.

00:44:42.920 And then tie that to the budget conversation we're having.

00:44:47.820 They count this on the left as manufacturing and capital equipment as well.

00:44:53.560 All the money you're talking about.

00:44:55.780 It's entirely important.

00:44:57.360 All of the solar panels, all the inverters, all of the battery storage utilities are buying

00:45:01.840 in this 90% of the procurement of generation equipment now that's coming largely from China

00:45:07.940 is all imported goods.

00:45:10.060 But worse yet, it's destabilizing the country's electricity supply.

00:45:13.800 Because you see here, we've shut down in the same period 60 gigawatts of equipment,

00:45:18.600 of coal and gas plants, while we've installed this stuff at a horrendous capacity factor.

00:45:24.840 It doesn't operate three-fourths of the time.

00:45:27.440 Therefore, we've only added to electrification growth by 0.4% across the last four years.

00:45:34.760 Electricity demand has gone up by 3.5% in the last five years.

00:45:39.520 And it's forecast-

00:45:40.680 Yeah, if you had to talk about productivity, right?

00:45:47.120 So inputs, the amount spent, getting you that little 0.4 output, what would your commentary

00:45:53.080 be on the wisdom of the executive class over the last four years as far as productivity,

00:45:59.740 using our inputs and our scarce resources wisely?

00:46:03.080 Well, you can have no productivity because the cost of energy, the cost of electrification

00:46:09.360 is fundamental to making everything.

00:46:12.440 Steel, aluminum, chemicals, petrochemicals, pulp and paper, car manufacturing and assembly,

00:46:18.360 everything you can name is heavily, heavily dependent on inputs of cost-effective electricity.

00:46:24.860 And what's happened in this time period, because we've spent so much on this,

00:46:28.360 and because the electrical capacity is so low, electricity rates have predictably gone up

00:46:33.900 about 35% since 2021 to pay for this binge of buying equipment that doesn't work, meaning

00:46:41.060 it works very, very part-time.

00:46:42.860 So we get this, this has to change.

00:46:45.100 The tariffs are a great way to get at this, and the attack on China, because this product

00:46:50.520 is 85% sourced from China.

00:46:53.880 We've got to stop buying it.

00:46:55.420 So setting the barrier up higher, we have a Congress that is on record.

00:46:59.760 It will not fight the incentives on this.

00:47:01.580 We've got 35 RINOs stood up last week and took a pledge. 0.56

00:47:05.460 They will not vote against incentives on solar and wind.

00:47:08.900 Good for them. 1.00

00:47:10.080 Here's a sense we're incentivizing this idiotic behavior. 0.99

00:47:13.920 Let's put tariffs on it and make it very, very difficult for utilities to make these decisions, 0.97

00:47:18.280 and folks like NextEra to make these decisions, to solarize the country, diminish its electrification,

00:47:25.380 and continue to raise the cost of electricity here with that which hardly works at a huge,

00:47:30.880 huge cost to the nation.

00:47:32.280 The incentives embedded in this, by the way, the $400 billion, are about $150 billion of

00:47:37.740 incentives between investment tax credits and then longer-term production tax credits in

00:47:42.820 the IRA to also help fund this binge with taxpayer money, which is, unfortunately, Congress is

00:47:49.360 on record.

00:47:49.920 They're not going to fight it.

00:47:50.820 They're not going to fight it.

00:47:51.900 So tariffs are the way to go on this topic on China.

00:47:56.620 Yeah, good.

00:47:57.500 Go over the coal play again for us unsophisticated economists.

00:48:03.260 What's the bottom line?

00:48:04.800 What percentage of our energy is coal going to bring?

00:48:08.080 How long will it take the administration to bring that into play?

00:48:13.720 Coal power is about 18% of U.S. energy right now.

00:48:17.120 Electricity-wise, it's about 25% of the baseload, continuous-duty electricity.

00:48:23.500 I mean, natural gas is the biggest part of that, 42%.

00:48:26.420 Coal is 18%.

00:48:28.220 Nuclear power, about 20%.

00:48:29.920 So of the baseload, completely necessary, constant-duty electricity system that must exist

00:48:36.180 for night, that must exist for night, and when the wind doesn't blow, which is 18% of

00:48:41.360 the time, that whole system that must exist, which is nuclear, gas, and coal, has to be

00:48:47.060 diversified.

00:48:48.080 It has to be a diversified portfolio of fuel inputs.

00:48:51.180 It can't just be gas.

00:48:52.700 It can't be just uranium, nuclear.

00:48:54.700 It's got to be all three.

00:48:58.120 Yeah, very good.

00:48:59.020 Are there any other big hammers to drop when it comes to energy, anything you're anticipating?

00:49:03.200 Well, all right, let's, Warren, we're going to try to reboot Dave Walsh real quick.

00:49:14.280 We're lucky to have him with us.

00:49:15.620 We've got a couple minutes left in the show.

00:49:18.340 And so the Trump regime fighting across the board in every sector simultaneously, right?

00:49:25.300 The left's heads are popping off.

00:49:27.620 Again, all of this, ask yourself what percentage of Americans would like to have continuous

00:49:33.740 energy supply.

00:49:34.920 That's what Dave Walsh comes on and talks about every time.

00:49:38.680 You just heard him say, we've spent billions and billions and billions of dollars, government

00:49:43.720 spending, for product that comes from China.

00:49:48.500 And so there's problem number one.

00:49:51.320 There's problem number two.

00:49:53.160 And then he mentioned the productivity.

00:49:56.620 That $4 billion got us, I think he said, a 0.4% increase in electrical output production.

00:50:05.660 I think we lost Dave.

00:50:08.220 And so I'm going to close out and just give another shout out to our friends.

00:50:13.480 In times of instability, you all know who to go to.

00:50:17.500 Steve Bannon has been key in writing, helping write their documents.

00:50:22.180 The rest of the world, this is going to be very interesting.

00:50:24.560 With the first 50 countries, now I think Besson today said we're up to 80 countries that are

00:50:30.040 going to be with us.

00:50:31.600 And so that's some good news, we hope.

00:50:34.600 But China is not done, as Steve said earlier today.

00:50:38.540 China is not done swinging.

00:50:40.100 And so we'll see what kind of play they can make to take down the United States as the 0.93

00:50:48.180 reserve currency of the United States.

00:50:51.400 And so to me, I feel the president has been making all the right moves.

00:50:56.820 He's just playing in real time and seeing the reaction he gets.

00:51:00.720 And he's trying to maximize whatever benefits he can get.

00:51:04.700 And he's not trying to destroy the machine.

00:51:07.020 The Marxist left, that's their goal, is to take down the machine.

00:51:11.520 President Trump, every day, is working for you.

00:51:14.980 He's working to tear down the globalist, elitist establishment, ironclad power and control

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00:51:37.360 Please shoot the prayers up to heaven tonight.

00:51:40.620 God bless you all.

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Bannon's War Room - April 10, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 743： Tariffs Building Productivity; Truth Behind US Energy Production

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