On the eve of the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States of America, Stephen K. Bannon takes a moment to remember the heroes of the Revolution and the heroes who stood up to the power of the British Empire.
00:04:43.400We'd rather have you working here in good faith to save this constitutional republic, the new Jerusalem, right, than doing whatever the hell you're going to do, you know, somewhere else, which is all goofing off.
00:04:57.640Jordan, you ought to call up with this thing today.
00:05:00.320It shouldn't be the president having to bug you and people around him having to bug you and war room going on.
00:05:35.600So where we are right now in Judge Bozberg's opinion set some deadlines for next Wednesday, April 23rd.
00:05:44.440And by that point, Jeb Bozberg gave the DOJ, Trump administration, an ultimatum.
00:05:50.100So by April 23rd, you explain to me how you are going to purge the contempt, meaning unwind the contempt, not be in contempt anymore, and explain how you're going to do that.
00:06:05.500Now, again, how are you not in contempt or how do you resolve contempt accusations for temporary restraining orders that are invalid?
00:06:16.220He set out some framework for that, which also did not make a lot of sense.
00:06:22.400Or, he said, if you are not going to purge the contempt, then you have to give me declarations of individuals who were responsible for ignoring those TROs, invalid TROs now,
00:06:36.920to return planes, and to not remove these illegal Venezuelans covered by the Alien Enemies Act.
00:06:52.840I'm assuming any moment Trump's DOJ will file an appeal of this opinion, seek an emergency.
00:07:00.280Stay to that, including those deadlines.
00:07:03.020So that is something I think we can expect.
00:07:05.400But what Bosberg did, I think, really brazenly, aside from everything he wrote today and everything that he's said and done over the past month,
00:07:14.820is he said that if the government, if the Department of Justice does not pursue contempt charges,
00:07:21.480he will, under Rule 42, a federal criminal procedure, name a court-appointed attorney to do that.
00:07:30.500And, of course, that's what we saw his colleague Emmett Sullivan do in 2020 when both the DOJ and Mike Flynn's attorney sought to dismiss the case against him.
00:07:43.400Emmett Sullivan cited that very same rule in saying that he was going to hire, name a separate attorney to pursue contempt charges against Mike Flynn.
00:07:55.800So if the D.C. appellate court upholds this, it's very hard to see even the Democrat, overwhelming majority Democrat population on that court.
00:08:09.080Very hard to see them uphold Bosberg's order.
00:08:13.160But if they do, of course, this will head right back to the Supreme Court, and we'll see what they say about what appears to be Judge Bosberg's own contempt of the Supreme Court ruling vacating his two temporary restraining orders that he's now somehow trying to still force.
00:08:29.160With all the nuance of this and all that, it's clearly – Bosberg wants to make a statement that he thinks Trump and the people around him are criminals.
00:08:42.360What is – if we used to start the impeachment hearings and folks don't need to blow them up now because they're not around, we'll do this starting on Monday.
00:08:51.820We'll get organized in this, and we'll hit them with a tsunami because Jim Jordan and these guys have got to wake up.
00:08:57.700If we do it now, aren't they going to say, oh, this is just because they had the contempt thing?
00:09:02.340When you warned them about this almost two weeks ago, that this was going to happen, you've called this play-by-play, have you not, ma'am?
00:09:12.620I mean, I think I was on your show Monday, March 17th.
00:09:15.440Judge Bosberg had another hearing that day where he was already accusing the Department of Justice of not following his orders and not giving him the information that he wanted.
00:09:26.420He was demanding details on these deportation flights.
00:09:30.500The Trump administration refused to turn that information over, saying it was national security information.
00:09:37.420He kept pushing for it and then finally had to invoke state secrets privilege and declarations by Pam Bondi and Marco Rubio and Kirstie Noem,
00:09:48.300explaining why the court had no authority to receive that information, that it was sensitive executive branch presidential prerogative.
00:09:57.820And he even said in his opinion today, he mocked that as well and said there was no evidence that they needed to invoke the state secret privilege to keep this information from me.
00:10:10.660He's been very indignant about that, saying I'm a judge, I get classified information all the time.
00:10:16.900Well, the reverse question is, what do you think entitles you to get presidential authority information related to immigration policy, national security policy, and foreign diplomacy?
00:10:30.900They want to take away the Article 2 rights of the right to obligations and responsibilities and duties of the president to be commander-in-chief.
00:10:53.200They have to respond, I think, by Tuesday, you said, or next week.
00:10:56.260How do you see this thing playing out, at least over the Holy Week, ma'am?
00:11:03.360Well, I would expect the next move to be a notice of appeal by the Trump Department of Justice.
00:11:08.520If they do put an emergency stay or hold on this opinion today, that would then put a hold on this April 23rd deadline that Bozberg set today.
00:11:23.980If they don't, then the Department of Justice will have to either say, okay, we will clean up our contempt accusations that you made against us.
00:11:35.840It sounded like, in his opinion, it would require any illegal Venezuelans who are on those two flights during the hearing that they would somehow have to be returned to the United States.
00:11:47.220He said then that they don't have to be returned to the United States.
00:11:50.640So he was very vague about what that meant to comply with this order that, again, has been vacated.
00:11:57.840So the DOJ has that choice, or again, what he said is declarations by top officials as to why they did not follow his orders given on March 15th.
00:12:10.500So we'll just have to keep an eye on the docket for now and see what happens.
00:12:15.200I don't know if you came in late, but the mother's heart-rendering account of what happened to her daughter when she's brutally raped and murdered by an illegal alien evader.
00:12:41.120And we are obligated as the media part of this to continue to bring that up.
00:12:46.520The people have to – because all they want to do is get into the process and to the details and all this and try to confuse people and try to sow uncertainty in people.
00:12:55.060This is as clear as you could possibly be.
00:12:58.260The man in the office is the commander-in-chief.
00:13:03.420So says Article 2, and the founders couldn't be clearer.
00:13:06.740They don't want people messing with that, okay?
00:13:11.240I don't know why there's not charges brought on this.
00:13:13.160This is the most outrageous thing I've seen, and they're driving it.
00:13:16.140As we told you a month ago, they were going to drive it to this date to go after the contempt and to put a criminal contempt hearing because they want to put –
00:13:40.800So this is, again, why it's so frustrating that House Republicans have not made – or leadership, at least, have made any sort of move against this judge.
00:13:50.560So now we have his narrative building, which we have seen this week.
00:13:57.060The only conversation – national conversation has to do with the Abrego-Garcia case and allegations, including by the district court judge in Maryland,
00:14:06.240that the Trump administration defied – is defying the Supreme Court and her court orders about that illegal El Salvadoran man who is here illegally and had deportation orders.
00:14:20.400So what Mossberg did today – and keep in mind, he said that this order was going to be – this opinion was going to be filed last week,
00:14:27.920but it seems like he held off on it for the most opportune timing, which is to help bolster the Democrats' media narrative that the Trump White House is just brazenly defying judicial orders all over the place.
00:14:42.160So this is all the headlines that we are going to see tonight.
00:14:45.640We're going to see all day tomorrow, no matter how preposterous Mossberg's opinion and what he said in this order today is he has achieved his goal.
00:14:56.280And that's what I wrote on my Substack today, which is to help to promote the idea that not – that the courts are lawless,
00:15:04.260but that the Trump administration is lawless and not following court orders and doing what these judges say they should do.
00:15:15.480Julie, how do people get to your Substack? How do they get to your social media, ma'am?
00:15:19.480So I have a big piece on my Substack that I just posted before it came out right there, Declassified with Julie Kelly.
00:15:27.660I explain the opinion that Mossberg issued today.
00:15:31.660Also on X, Julie underscore Kelly too.
00:15:36.620Also tomorrow is the oral arguments and the appeal of Judge Trevor McFadden's preliminary injunction forcing the White House to allow Associated Press reporters into various press events.
00:15:53.140That oral arguments and that appeal tomorrow afternoon I'll be covering that as well.
00:15:58.600Couldn't happen to a better group of folks.
00:18:30.080And my last point on this, this isn't something that just started, you know, 10 days ago.
00:18:35.660This is something that was being crafted since before President Trump won, but certainly after, right?
00:18:41.720The hotbed, the ground zero of Trump-proofing the government always revolved around the mass deportations.
00:18:48.380You had 200 left-wing NGO, you know, open society-type funded groups sending letters and lobbying administration officials under Joe Biden to cease the construction of new detention facilities,
00:19:02.380but to also just release everyone, to close all detention centers, 200 groups, not even that far left, kind of mainstream Democrat groups.
00:19:12.700So they, I think it's not necessarily that they set up a trap, but in some ways they did because we don't have the domestic capabilities.
00:19:19.720I don't know why they don't want to work with Eric Prince, but this is all coming together in a way that I think is very bad because we don't have House Republicans who are serious on a messaging or, you know, counter-lawfare front to push back against it.
00:19:32.460Despicable. Well, we'll get on that and work on that tonight.
00:19:36.960Let me play, I got some big breaking news and you got some scoops coming out of the State Department.
00:19:41.160Let's go ahead and play the clips. Let's play the cold open on this and I'm going to get to Natalie.
00:19:45.980Something very historic transpired today. Could you tell the American people what that was?
00:19:50.400Well, we ended government-sponsored censorship in the United States through the State Department and let me explain how we get there.
00:19:56.440This started out, you know, 15, 10 years ago with this effort of let's go after the messaging that Al-Qaeda and ISIS and others are putting to radicalize people.
00:20:04.520Oh, no, who's going to be against that? That sounds normal.
00:20:06.800And then it was like in 2016, oh, you know, we had this foreign interference in our election.
00:20:10.900We need to start targeting some of that stuff.
00:20:13.480By 2020, it had grown into this movement of like actually going after individual American voices.
00:20:19.700And one of the ways that was being done wasn't just directly because the guy that was running this thing, Stengel, was actually a guy that was out there saying, you know,
00:20:25.840Donald Trump talks just like a Russian spy. He talks just like a terrorist.
00:20:31.940But they were also taking money from this program and using it to fund these NGOs, these third-party groups who were supposed to be like impartial.
00:20:42.480They were literally tagging and labeling voices in American politics.
00:20:46.280Ben Shapiro, the Federalists, others, tagging them as foreign agents.
00:20:49.800Yes. So you look at it and say American taxpayers through the State Department were paying groups to attack Americans and to try to silence the voice of Americans.
00:21:05.680So before President Trump took over, they disbanded this unit.
00:21:10.480They just renamed it and moved it somewhere else.
00:21:12.820But now, over the last few months, we've worked on it and just taken it down.
00:21:15.580And to the extent we're spending money now, we are going to spend money on messaging.
00:21:19.200It's going to be pro-American messaging.
00:21:20.840And it's going to be incentivizing and protecting free speech, which is threatened in all over the world, including countries that are allies of ours.
00:21:27.980There are lingering questions about what was done during that period, where we now have so many people wondering, was I censored because of something the State Department did?
00:22:20.740So that 10 years from now, when someone has a brilliant idea like this again, you know, not brilliant idea like this again,
00:22:25.600you can point to that and say, oh, this was done once before, and here's the reason why we don't.
00:22:29.540That's why accountability is important in these things, because it doesn't just provide justice,
00:22:33.420but it also prevents it from happening in the future.
00:22:36.440You have something you can point to at the same time and say, these are the kinds of things we want to stay away from.
00:22:41.020And, you know, it's also a very important lesson here.
00:22:45.020If I take you back 15 years and I ask somebody, do you think we should be doing more to make sure ISIS and Al-Qaeda are not radicalizing people online?
00:22:53.14015 years ago, we'd have said, yeah, of course.
00:23:12.420And everything we do, you have to understand that when you create something, what you create it and what it turns into are not necessarily the same thing,
00:23:18.980especially when the people in charge change.
00:23:21.180A Frankensteinian minister that takes on a life of its own.
00:23:25.660You want to know how people can make a difference?
00:23:29.300Darren Beattie, how many times have you heard Darren on a revolver?
00:23:33.700Darren Beattie's over the State Department.
00:23:35.020This is historic, Natalie Winters, this angle of attack that you guys have been working on forever is so powerful.
00:23:42.980But I am gobsmacked to sit right there, I guess, in the lobby of the State Department, the beautiful State Department where we're talking about.
00:23:50.360Michael Benz interviewing the Secretary of State is something that's so powerful.
00:23:54.860What in the hell happened here, ma'am?
00:23:56.240Yeah, I mean, even if they hadn't done a new initiative, which we'll get into, I think just Mike Benz and the belly of the beast in the State Department probably is scary enough to the global censorship industrial complex.
00:24:08.080But they got rid of today quite a historic move, essentially the rebrand of what was the Global Engagement Center, which was sort of the State Department equivalents of what I would sort of compare to CISA, right, an organization that was originally developed through the lens of combating misinformation and helping to promote democratic values and helping to stop terrorism.
00:24:29.400But obviously, very quickly, like so many of those initiatives devolved into censoring Americans and censoring speech, frankly, about a lot of the issues that we were just talking about, issues really pertaining to COVID, origins, vaccines, the Ukraine war, immigration, election fraud.
00:24:46.660So this is essentially was a, you know, 50 million plus dollar operation that they gutted.
00:24:53.340They got rid of all the employees, placed them not just on leave, but on termination, full blown leave, Doge style terminated.
00:25:01.440But I think the other really important part, and we're breaking this exclusively on War Room, I'm happy to report for you, Steve, that Darren Beattie is going to be spearheading the transparency initiative component to this.
00:25:12.700Think of it sort of in the style of the Twitter files, they're going to be searching certain keywords, conservative influencers, personalities, like I was saying, some of the issues I just mentioned, to see who they were censoring.
00:25:26.540And your name, Steve Bannon, this show is going to be included in the first tranche of search terms, sort of research junk that they'll be putting out to see how the government was censoring us.
00:25:37.200Natalie, by the way, a huge hat tip over to Secretary Rubio and Darren Beattie, everybody over state, Michael Benz, we're going to try to break it down and show more of it to you tomorrow morning.
00:25:49.820Incredible interview by Benz, as you can imagine, Benz, but it just shows you, in Victoria and New Orleans, they're going to be melting down.
00:25:57.820When Natalie says in Belly of the Beast, you've got Beattie working inside, you've got Secretary of State Rubio right there with Michael Benz in an incredible interview, going through so many deep policy issues.
00:26:09.020When people take action, good things happen.
00:26:11.540Natalie Winters, where do people go for your social media, ma'am?
00:26:15.540Look, they've got Nina Jankiewicz, we've got Mike Benz, I'll take Mike Benz any day.
00:26:20.620Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms, thank you for having me.
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00:44:02.640What were the events that led to the government stepping in to nationalize it?
00:44:06.460And it seems to be one entity that's kind of pulling the country together, at least in certain aspects of it, that people realize we have to have a steel industry.
00:44:24.440Not that they – it's exactly a really good show tonight, where time after time, on issue after issue, the progressive globalizers are exposed as frauds.
00:44:36.140And, you know, the Republican Party was part of this, that whole thing that you couldn't have an economy that worked in the interests of workers.
00:44:44.840It had to work in the interest of capital.
00:44:46.720All in China, no free and democratic trade unions, 24-hour-a-day production, high returns, maximum returns.
00:44:54.680All of our inheritance was invested in China.
00:44:57.840And so basically privatization is just a front for the colonization of our country by hostile foreign powers.
00:45:12.480But on this case, the British state is good because the prime minister represents the king, one tiny act of parliament, and now British steel is nationalized and owned by the state, by the people.
00:45:24.080And the economy can begin to work in the interests of people.
00:45:28.420In the basic economic analysis coming out, though, the way the Chinese have left British steel today, it loses essentially a million pounds a day.
00:45:39.660Yeah, but this is the whole point with sovereignty, Steve.
00:45:43.580If you're incapable of building weapons, if you're incapable of defending yourself, if all you can do is go shopping, you lose your sovereignty, you lose your democracy, you lose your liberty.
00:45:58.280And this is what we're now waking up to.
00:46:01.160And so this is part of a re-industrialization.
00:46:03.800We are absolutely going down the same road as you're trying to go down.
00:46:07.700So in this process of re-industrialization and the first step is to seize British steel from its Chinese owners, which, as you said, have gone out of the way to try to destroy it, how does then Nigel and the Reform Party, you have these huge elections coming up, the local elections coming up in May, and people are saying, hey, if Nigel and the Reform Party do well, they could really be the challenge to the labor.
00:46:35.500Nigel, and you know him very well, he introduced me to you, and he speaks so highly, he thinks you're one of the most brilliant men in all of the United Kingdom.
00:46:45.780How does a Thatcherite that's leading a Reform Party actually sit there and say that this is a smart thing to do, sir?
00:46:52.680This is what we call in England the reverse ferret, when a politician, you've seen it many times, just swings 180 degrees.
00:47:01.060He's been Mr. Singapore on the Thames.
00:47:03.260Now, my party is rediscovering its soul, it's working and it's acting in the interests of workers, in the interests of producers, and really is putting the great priority on sovereignty and national defense.
00:47:18.400At which point, Nigel Farage says, yeah, I believe in nationalization.
00:47:21.940You should see him, not just steel, he wants now the nationalization of water.
00:47:25.600So, bring it on, the battle at the next election is blue labor versus reform, and our inheritance and our whole identity is based on a political economy that works in the interests of people, not a profit.
00:47:40.340You've had your establishment, whether it's Tory or labor, like, for instance, David Cameron and Lord Mandelson and others, being the employee or very closely associated with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:47:51.560How is that going to play out of what your elites have done here to leave the working people in England in this shape?
00:47:59.760Well, our elites, your elites, same elites.
00:48:02.460You know, people who absolutely, you know, earlier I was listening to Natalie, we believe in this thing called the NGO industrial complex, which is just a web of what they call civil society organizations that are financed by capital, progressive capital.
00:48:19.220You live it every day, and so do we, in order to have the real genuine interests and values of working class people represented, but they haven't been for 50 years.
00:48:29.420We've lived, Steve and you, you and me, I lived our whole lifetime with this incredible ideology that free markets were going to liberate the world.
00:48:38.400Turned out, it all worked out in the interest of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:48:42.440Hegel called it the cunning of history, but that's the truth of it.
00:49:36.340We're going to try to get Nigel on here to talk about this also.
00:49:38.900These elections, these local elections in May, I think it's the 1st or 2nd of May, are going to decide to kind of to whether the Reform Party overtakes Tories and it'll be labor versus reform.
00:51:30.900It's on the hands of those correspondents from those networks and stations and newspapers sitting in those rows before they would not ask her one question.
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