Bannon's War Room - April 16, 2025


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On the eve of the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States of America, Stephen K. Bannon takes a moment to remember the heroes of the Revolution and the heroes who stood up to the power of the British Empire.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:19.380 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:24.720 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:28.880 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:30.960 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:32.360 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:34.080 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:35.020 It's going to happen.
00:00:36.280 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:39.680 MAGA Media.
00:00:41.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:46.440 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:50.220 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:55.880 Save War Room.
00:00:57.460 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:00:59.500 Bannon.
00:01:04.620 Okay, Wednesday, 16 April, Year of the Lord 2025.
00:01:07.760 Just because it's Holy Week, it doesn't mean it's not action.
00:01:10.180 Everywhere, on every front, trying to confront President Trump and the MAGA movement
00:01:15.360 in attempting to restore this nation to the constitutional republic it once was.
00:01:21.880 And nothing could be more appropriate than in the run-up to the 250th anniversary of really the start,
00:01:29.160 the real start of the American Revolution.
00:01:31.200 That would be the sacred ground in Lexington and Concord.
00:01:35.140 That will be on Saturday.
00:01:36.060 By the way, we will be live on Saturday covering that wall-to-wall, so the Saturday show will
00:01:40.460 be very, very special.
00:01:42.700 And I really want to thank Real America's Voice for making that happen traditionally on
00:01:46.780 Easter weekend.
00:01:48.960 We try to do the Holy Saturday show and do it in advance so that people can have the weekend
00:01:53.060 off.
00:01:53.400 But because of the unique nature of the 250th commemoration of this historic event, we will
00:01:59.420 be live.
00:02:00.320 Julie Kelly.
00:02:00.820 In our republic, that was at the beginning of the republic, people that fought the crown
00:02:06.540 and the oligarchs and the concentrated economic power of institutions and entities like the 0.70
00:02:14.580 British East India Company.
00:02:17.320 And that was those folks with this audience that said, we're not going to do this anymore.
00:02:22.220 We're going to do it.
00:02:23.220 We're going to take a stand and we're not going to retreat.
00:02:26.500 It took eight years, right?
00:02:30.400 They're a year away from the Declaration of Independence.
00:02:33.320 Actually, it took nine, if you tell me.
00:02:34.700 It took nine years, nine years, nine years of warfare to eventually win.
00:02:41.240 Why did they win?
00:02:42.160 They didn't quit.
00:02:44.320 They could have quit at, you know, they could have quit at Valley Forge.
00:02:50.020 They could have quit in Brooklyn when they surrendered.
00:02:51.800 They could have quit at the American Dunkirk across the East River.
00:02:55.440 They could have quit when they got run out of Manhattan.
00:02:58.760 They could have quit when they got run across New Jersey.
00:03:01.180 Retreat, retreat, retreat.
00:03:02.540 Just lose, lose, lose.
00:03:03.940 They could have quit at Valley Forge.
00:03:06.700 Later at Morristown, people forget the other winners were even more brutal than Valley Forge.
00:03:11.920 They could have quit at any time.
00:03:13.740 They could have quit.
00:03:14.320 You're just throwing down.
00:03:14.960 It's too hard.
00:03:15.780 Let's negotiate a deal.
00:03:17.640 They could have quit.
00:03:19.540 And they didn't.
00:03:20.760 And they won.
00:03:22.300 Lesson.
00:03:22.740 Take number two, Prince of Latin, and write that down.
00:03:26.100 Because I want to tell the apparatus, we're not quitting either.
00:03:31.280 And you're not going to defeat us.
00:03:34.120 We cannot be beaten.
00:03:35.480 The reason we cannot be beaten, we're not going to quit.
00:03:40.540 Julie Kelly, and this just goes to reinforce, again, the lack of action and the lack of urgency in the traditional Republican Party.
00:03:48.020 That this is just another thing.
00:03:49.420 Let's have some fundraisers.
00:03:50.540 Let's go to some dinners.
00:03:51.480 Let's go to the Capitol Grill.
00:03:52.760 Let's just go party.
00:03:55.220 Right?
00:03:55.660 Let's take a couple of weeks off.
00:03:56.880 Let's take a couple of weeks off.
00:03:57.820 Let's take Easter.
00:03:58.860 Hey, stay here and do Holy Thursday here and do Good Friday here and do, you know, people want you to work.
00:04:05.340 They don't care about you coming back.
00:04:06.760 You don't do any town halls anyway.
00:04:10.560 And the town halls are now disrupted.
00:04:11.960 So why do it?
00:04:12.760 The constituent times, the constituents want you here.
00:04:16.780 And how about this?
00:04:17.900 How about an impeachment hearing on Bozberg?
00:04:20.100 Let's take a vote in the chats.
00:04:21.580 Who would rather have that?
00:04:22.920 Who would rather have?
00:04:23.720 Who thinks you are putting forward the best principles of the Judeo-Christian West by staying here and working through the Easter weekend? 0.99
00:04:34.080 Would not the apostles and the saints think, yes, get on with it.
00:04:39.920 Please save this culture. 0.97
00:04:41.480 Please save this civilization.
00:04:43.400 We'd rather have you working here in good faith to save this constitutional republic, the new Jerusalem, right, than doing whatever the hell you're going to do, you know, somewhere else, which is all goofing off.
00:04:57.640 Jordan, you ought to call up with this thing today.
00:05:00.320 It shouldn't be the president having to bug you and people around him having to bug you and war room going on.
00:05:05.480 You should say, guess what?
00:05:07.060 I'm calling the committee back tomorrow and we're going to have our first impeachment hearing.
00:05:10.340 I want Bozberg to show up.
00:05:12.820 Even if that meant, as close as this to our heart, putting a hold or switching out a judge, Bozberg, on the trial of Zuckerberg.
00:05:24.460 Which Bozberg happens to be the judge?
00:05:28.180 Julie Kelly, where are we, ma'am, in this?
00:05:31.520 Give me some more details, more receipts, and then tell me what we should do.
00:05:34.880 Ma'am.
00:05:35.600 So where we are right now in Judge Bozberg's opinion set some deadlines for next Wednesday, April 23rd.
00:05:44.440 And by that point, Jeb Bozberg gave the DOJ, Trump administration, an ultimatum.
00:05:50.100 So by April 23rd, you explain to me how you are going to purge the contempt, meaning unwind the contempt, not be in contempt anymore, and explain how you're going to do that.
00:06:05.500 Now, again, how are you not in contempt or how do you resolve contempt accusations for temporary restraining orders that are invalid?
00:06:15.460 I don't know.
00:06:16.220 He set out some framework for that, which also did not make a lot of sense.
00:06:22.400 Or, he said, if you are not going to purge the contempt, then you have to give me declarations of individuals who were responsible for ignoring those TROs, invalid TROs now,
00:06:36.920 to return planes, and to not remove these illegal Venezuelans covered by the Alien Enemies Act. 0.67
00:06:45.900 So that is the deadline he set today.
00:06:49.720 Still waiting.
00:06:50.880 I keep refreshing the docket to see.
00:06:52.840 I'm assuming any moment Trump's DOJ will file an appeal of this opinion, seek an emergency.
00:07:00.280 Stay to that, including those deadlines.
00:07:03.020 So that is something I think we can expect.
00:07:05.400 But what Bosberg did, I think, really brazenly, aside from everything he wrote today and everything that he's said and done over the past month,
00:07:14.820 is he said that if the government, if the Department of Justice does not pursue contempt charges,
00:07:21.480 he will, under Rule 42, a federal criminal procedure, name a court-appointed attorney to do that.
00:07:30.500 And, of course, that's what we saw his colleague Emmett Sullivan do in 2020 when both the DOJ and Mike Flynn's attorney sought to dismiss the case against him.
00:07:43.400 Emmett Sullivan cited that very same rule in saying that he was going to hire, name a separate attorney to pursue contempt charges against Mike Flynn.
00:07:55.800 So if the D.C. appellate court upholds this, it's very hard to see even the Democrat, overwhelming majority Democrat population on that court.
00:08:09.080 Very hard to see them uphold Bosberg's order.
00:08:13.160 But if they do, of course, this will head right back to the Supreme Court, and we'll see what they say about what appears to be Judge Bosberg's own contempt of the Supreme Court ruling vacating his two temporary restraining orders that he's now somehow trying to still force.
00:08:29.160 With all the nuance of this and all that, it's clearly – Bosberg wants to make a statement that he thinks Trump and the people around him are criminals.
00:08:39.640 Let's just be blunt.
00:08:40.500 Let's just say what it is.
00:08:42.360 What is – if we used to start the impeachment hearings and folks don't need to blow them up now because they're not around, we'll do this starting on Monday.
00:08:51.820 We'll get organized in this, and we'll hit them with a tsunami because Jim Jordan and these guys have got to wake up.
00:08:57.700 If we do it now, aren't they going to say, oh, this is just because they had the contempt thing?
00:09:02.340 When you warned them about this almost two weeks ago, that this was going to happen, you've called this play-by-play, have you not, ma'am?
00:09:09.660 Yes.
00:09:10.820 Yes, they did a month ago.
00:09:12.620 I mean, I think I was on your show Monday, March 17th.
00:09:15.440 Judge Bosberg had another hearing that day where he was already accusing the Department of Justice of not following his orders and not giving him the information that he wanted.
00:09:26.420 He was demanding details on these deportation flights.
00:09:30.500 The Trump administration refused to turn that information over, saying it was national security information.
00:09:37.420 He kept pushing for it and then finally had to invoke state secrets privilege and declarations by Pam Bondi and Marco Rubio and Kirstie Noem,
00:09:48.300 explaining why the court had no authority to receive that information, that it was sensitive executive branch presidential prerogative.
00:09:57.820 And he even said in his opinion today, he mocked that as well and said there was no evidence that they needed to invoke the state secret privilege to keep this information from me.
00:10:10.660 He's been very indignant about that, saying I'm a judge, I get classified information all the time.
00:10:15.260 Why are you withholding this from me?
00:10:16.900 Well, the reverse question is, what do you think entitles you to get presidential authority information related to immigration policy, national security policy, and foreign diplomacy?
00:10:30.900 They want to take away the Article 2 rights of the right to obligations and responsibilities and duties of the president to be commander-in-chief.
00:10:39.500 This is what they're trying to do.
00:10:40.660 They're trying to insert themselves in there.
00:10:42.260 I don't know why they're not charges brought against Bozberg, but hey, greater minds than mine, we'll figure this out.
00:10:51.160 Julie, where does this go from here?
00:10:53.200 They have to respond, I think, by Tuesday, you said, or next week.
00:10:56.260 How do you see this thing playing out, at least over the Holy Week, ma'am?
00:11:03.360 Well, I would expect the next move to be a notice of appeal by the Trump Department of Justice.
00:11:08.520 If they do put an emergency stay or hold on this opinion today, that would then put a hold on this April 23rd deadline that Bozberg set today.
00:11:23.980 If they don't, then the Department of Justice will have to either say, okay, we will clean up our contempt accusations that you made against us.
00:11:33.980 I'm not sure what that looks like.
00:11:35.840 It sounded like, in his opinion, it would require any illegal Venezuelans who are on those two flights during the hearing that they would somehow have to be returned to the United States.
00:11:47.220 He said then that they don't have to be returned to the United States.
00:11:50.640 So he was very vague about what that meant to comply with this order that, again, has been vacated.
00:11:57.840 So the DOJ has that choice, or again, what he said is declarations by top officials as to why they did not follow his orders given on March 15th.
00:12:10.500 So we'll just have to keep an eye on the docket for now and see what happens.
00:12:15.200 I don't know if you came in late, but the mother's heart-rendering account of what happened to her daughter when she's brutally raped and murdered by an illegal alien evader.
00:12:25.540 This is the stakes.
00:12:27.960 I mean, you have this showboating senator down there now.
00:12:30.500 Thank God the El Salvadorans, they're not going to put up with it, right? 1.00
00:12:33.300 The guy down there runs the deal.
00:12:34.780 He runs – it's a close-run thing down there.
00:12:37.740 Yes.
00:12:39.100 I mean, isn't that the stakes?
00:12:41.120 And we are obligated as the media part of this to continue to bring that up.
00:12:46.520 The people have to – because all they want to do is get into the process and to the details and all this and try to confuse people and try to sow uncertainty in people.
00:12:55.060 This is as clear as you could possibly be.
00:12:58.260 The man in the office is the commander-in-chief.
00:13:03.420 So says Article 2, and the founders couldn't be clearer.
00:13:06.740 They don't want people messing with that, okay?
00:13:09.460 This is Boesburg asserting himself.
00:13:11.240 I don't know why there's not charges brought on this.
00:13:13.160 This is the most outrageous thing I've seen, and they're driving it.
00:13:16.140 As we told you a month ago, they were going to drive it to this date to go after the contempt and to put a criminal contempt hearing because they want to put –
00:13:25.460 they want to make people get lawyers. 0.92
00:13:28.700 And, you know, the same thing as the Russiagate.
00:13:30.340 This is all over again of what they do.
00:13:32.540 This is how they roll, okay?
00:13:34.240 They use the courts.
00:13:35.340 They use these neo-Marxist judges to do this.
00:13:37.580 Julie Kelly.
00:13:38.080 Right, correct.
00:13:40.800 So this is, again, why it's so frustrating that House Republicans have not made – or leadership, at least, have made any sort of move against this judge.
00:13:50.560 So now we have his narrative building, which we have seen this week.
00:13:57.060 The only conversation – national conversation has to do with the Abrego-Garcia case and allegations, including by the district court judge in Maryland,
00:14:06.240 that the Trump administration defied – is defying the Supreme Court and her court orders about that illegal El Salvadoran man who is here illegally and had deportation orders.
00:14:20.400 So what Mossberg did today – and keep in mind, he said that this order was going to be – this opinion was going to be filed last week,
00:14:27.920 but it seems like he held off on it for the most opportune timing, which is to help bolster the Democrats' media narrative that the Trump White House is just brazenly defying judicial orders all over the place.
00:14:42.160 So this is all the headlines that we are going to see tonight.
00:14:45.640 We're going to see all day tomorrow, no matter how preposterous Mossberg's opinion and what he said in this order today is he has achieved his goal.
00:14:56.280 And that's what I wrote on my Substack today, which is to help to promote the idea that not – that the courts are lawless,
00:15:04.260 but that the Trump administration is lawless and not following court orders and doing what these judges say they should do.
00:15:15.480 Julie, how do people get to your Substack? How do they get to your social media, ma'am?
00:15:19.480 So I have a big piece on my Substack that I just posted before it came out right there, Declassified with Julie Kelly.
00:15:27.660 I explain the opinion that Mossberg issued today.
00:15:31.660 Also on X, Julie underscore Kelly too. 0.98
00:15:35.600 So I'll be on Docket Watch.
00:15:36.620 Also tomorrow is the oral arguments and the appeal of Judge Trevor McFadden's preliminary injunction forcing the White House to allow Associated Press reporters into various press events.
00:15:53.140 That oral arguments and that appeal tomorrow afternoon I'll be covering that as well.
00:15:58.600 Couldn't happen to a better group of folks.
00:16:00.520 Okay, Julie, great work as usual. 1.00
00:16:02.620 Just amazing.
00:16:03.200 Go to her Substack, subscribe, support Julie Kelly. 0.99
00:16:06.300 Natalie Winters, your observations on all this before we get to the State Department, ma'am.
00:16:14.320 Well, I think it fits quite nicely in the color revolution framework and paradigm that we've been discussing
00:16:19.560 because instead of being able to sit here and discuss what the Trump administration has accomplished
00:16:24.600 or how to fine-tune the mass deportation operations, we're spending overtime, and that's what MSNBC is doing. 0.91
00:16:31.500 They have to put the poor woman's mother up there holding a press conference to push back against this barrage of information warfare 1.00
00:16:39.360 that I think they've launched reframing this whole immigration front that, like you were saying,
00:16:44.660 the MAGA movement has kind of thrust to the forefront of the national political debate,
00:16:49.040 but now we're only having it in the confines of, well, did some El Salvadorian gang member get treated with the full dignity
00:16:56.880 that the Geneva Convention would say that he should be when he was being deported. 0.99
00:17:00.880 It's absolutely ludicrous and asinine. 0.91
00:17:03.480 But I think you see the convergence on the media front, right, with what all my wonderful legacy media colleagues are doing 0.97
00:17:09.200 in the White House briefing room, the questions that they're asking, the overdrive, the sort of vamping of, you know,
00:17:14.920 the new constitutional crisis.
00:17:16.440 It's the new, you know, version of safe and effective.
00:17:19.400 But then the legal, I think, sort of compounding factor to it.
00:17:22.760 They can't impeach President Trump yet, right?
00:17:25.440 But Norm Eisen's going to be on CNN this evening to discuss what's going on with Bozberg,
00:17:30.540 so you can imagine what he's going to say.
00:17:32.880 But they're using whatever legal apparatus they have at their, you know, disposal to sort of wage that legal,
00:17:40.160 I would say, tranche of the color revolution framework against President Trump.
00:17:44.980 And I think that oftentimes you've always sort of seen these color revolutions start,
00:17:49.800 or at least maybe the populist foil to them, rooted in issues over sovereignty and immigration.
00:17:55.920 And, you know, we can sit here and cast stones at the Brits for the grooming gangs,
00:18:00.220 but you saw what that poor mother was talking about. 0.96
00:18:03.480 I mean, that sounds like a war crime, right? 0.92
00:18:05.960 We're at war.
00:18:06.660 I know we have to condemn the Russians for all the atrocities they've committed. 1.00
00:18:10.760 What about El Salvadorians who are being applauded by the front row of that briefing room,
00:18:16.400 and the best they can do after her whole speech is try to get a gotcha question on President Trump?
00:18:22.180 These people are despicable, but I think it's not just haphazard, right?
00:18:26.760 They're all working in conjunction.
00:18:28.260 It's part of a broader effort.
00:18:30.080 And my last point on this, this isn't something that just started, you know, 10 days ago.
00:18:35.660 This is something that was being crafted since before President Trump won, but certainly after, right?
00:18:41.720 The hotbed, the ground zero of Trump-proofing the government always revolved around the mass deportations.
00:18:48.380 You had 200 left-wing NGO, you know, open society-type funded groups sending letters and lobbying administration officials under Joe Biden to cease the construction of new detention facilities,
00:19:02.380 but to also just release everyone, to close all detention centers, 200 groups, not even that far left, kind of mainstream Democrat groups.
00:19:12.700 So they, I think it's not necessarily that they set up a trap, but in some ways they did because we don't have the domestic capabilities.
00:19:19.720 I don't know why they don't want to work with Eric Prince, but this is all coming together in a way that I think is very bad because we don't have House Republicans who are serious on a messaging or, you know, counter-lawfare front to push back against it.
00:19:32.460 Despicable. Well, we'll get on that and work on that tonight.
00:19:36.960 Let me play, I got some big breaking news and you got some scoops coming out of the State Department.
00:19:41.160 Let's go ahead and play the clips. Let's play the cold open on this and I'm going to get to Natalie.
00:19:45.980 Something very historic transpired today. Could you tell the American people what that was?
00:19:50.400 Well, we ended government-sponsored censorship in the United States through the State Department and let me explain how we get there.
00:19:56.440 This started out, you know, 15, 10 years ago with this effort of let's go after the messaging that Al-Qaeda and ISIS and others are putting to radicalize people.
00:20:04.520 Oh, no, who's going to be against that? That sounds normal.
00:20:06.800 And then it was like in 2016, oh, you know, we had this foreign interference in our election.
00:20:10.900 We need to start targeting some of that stuff.
00:20:13.480 By 2020, it had grown into this movement of like actually going after individual American voices.
00:20:19.700 And one of the ways that was being done wasn't just directly because the guy that was running this thing, Stengel, was actually a guy that was out there saying, you know,
00:20:25.840 Donald Trump talks just like a Russian spy. He talks just like a terrorist. 0.79
00:20:30.400 And so do the people around him.
00:20:31.940 But they were also taking money from this program and using it to fund these NGOs, these third-party groups who were supposed to be like impartial.
00:20:40.580 Those groups were then tagging.
00:20:42.480 They were literally tagging and labeling voices in American politics.
00:20:46.280 Ben Shapiro, the Federalists, others, tagging them as foreign agents.
00:20:49.800 Yes. So you look at it and say American taxpayers through the State Department were paying groups to attack Americans and to try to silence the voice of Americans.
00:20:58.500 And they were consequent.
00:20:59.280 This wasn't just a label they put on people.
00:21:01.080 Some of these people got deplatformed.
00:21:02.580 They got taken down.
00:21:03.520 They couldn't communicate.
00:21:04.920 So it was outrageous.
00:21:05.680 So before President Trump took over, they disbanded this unit.
00:21:10.480 They just renamed it and moved it somewhere else.
00:21:12.820 But now, over the last few months, we've worked on it and just taken it down.
00:21:15.580 And to the extent we're spending money now, we are going to spend money on messaging.
00:21:19.200 It's going to be pro-American messaging.
00:21:20.840 And it's going to be incentivizing and protecting free speech, which is threatened in all over the world, including countries that are allies of ours.
00:21:27.980 There are lingering questions about what was done during that period, where we now have so many people wondering, was I censored because of something the State Department did?
00:21:38.180 Was my news organization bankrupted?
00:21:40.500 Were advertisers contacted about it?
00:21:42.840 And there are aggrieved parties.
00:21:44.920 There's an important historical record that needs to be unearthed.
00:21:48.400 There are active lawsuits.
00:21:50.100 There are many reasons for a public disclosure effort on top of this development today.
00:21:55.600 Are there any efforts underway to be able to have a kind of GEC files as there were the Twitter files?
00:22:01.960 Yeah.
00:22:02.140 So I think what we have to do now, and Darren will be big and bald in that as well, is sort of document what's happened.
00:22:07.200 Because one thing is to say it in a broadcast like this.
00:22:09.880 Another thing is to actually put it on paper.
00:22:11.380 And there's two reasons to do it.
00:22:12.440 The first is because I think people who were harmed deserve to know that and be able to prove that they were harmed.
00:22:17.940 And then the other is to make sure it never happens again.
00:22:20.240 Right?
00:22:20.740 So that 10 years from now, when someone has a brilliant idea like this again, you know, not brilliant idea like this again,
00:22:25.600 you can point to that and say, oh, this was done once before, and here's the reason why we don't.
00:22:29.540 That's why accountability is important in these things, because it doesn't just provide justice,
00:22:33.420 but it also prevents it from happening in the future.
00:22:36.440 You have something you can point to at the same time and say, these are the kinds of things we want to stay away from.
00:22:41.020 And, you know, it's also a very important lesson here.
00:22:45.020 If I take you back 15 years and I ask somebody, do you think we should be doing more to make sure ISIS and Al-Qaeda are not radicalizing people online?
00:22:53.140 15 years ago, we'd have said, yeah, of course.
00:22:54.960 But look what that turned into.
00:22:56.580 And I'm not saying I'm, you know, obviously we don't want ISIS radicalizing everybody.
00:23:00.220 But you have to understand that sometimes some idea that starts out as innocuous or maybe even good intention, whatever,
00:23:06.080 can metastasize, becomes a weapon that can be turned into something else by someone else.
00:23:10.520 That's a valuable lesson here.
00:23:12.420 And everything we do, you have to understand that when you create something, what you create it and what it turns into are not necessarily the same thing,
00:23:18.980 especially when the people in charge change.
00:23:21.180 A Frankensteinian minister that takes on a life of its own.
00:23:25.660 You want to know how people can make a difference?
00:23:29.300 Darren Beattie, how many times have you heard Darren on a revolver?
00:23:31.820 I don't know, a thousand?
00:23:33.700 Darren Beattie's over the State Department.
00:23:35.020 This is historic, Natalie Winters, this angle of attack that you guys have been working on forever is so powerful.
00:23:42.980 But I am gobsmacked to sit right there, I guess, in the lobby of the State Department, the beautiful State Department where we're talking about.
00:23:50.360 Michael Benz interviewing the Secretary of State is something that's so powerful.
00:23:54.860 What in the hell happened here, ma'am?
00:23:56.240 Yeah, I mean, even if they hadn't done a new initiative, which we'll get into, I think just Mike Benz and the belly of the beast in the State Department probably is scary enough to the global censorship industrial complex.
00:24:08.080 But they got rid of today quite a historic move, essentially the rebrand of what was the Global Engagement Center, which was sort of the State Department equivalents of what I would sort of compare to CISA, right, an organization that was originally developed through the lens of combating misinformation and helping to promote democratic values and helping to stop terrorism.
00:24:29.400 But obviously, very quickly, like so many of those initiatives devolved into censoring Americans and censoring speech, frankly, about a lot of the issues that we were just talking about, issues really pertaining to COVID, origins, vaccines, the Ukraine war, immigration, election fraud.
00:24:46.660 So this is essentially was a, you know, 50 million plus dollar operation that they gutted.
00:24:53.340 They got rid of all the employees, placed them not just on leave, but on termination, full blown leave, Doge style terminated.
00:25:01.440 But I think the other really important part, and we're breaking this exclusively on War Room, I'm happy to report for you, Steve, that Darren Beattie is going to be spearheading the transparency initiative component to this.
00:25:12.700 Think of it sort of in the style of the Twitter files, they're going to be searching certain keywords, conservative influencers, personalities, like I was saying, some of the issues I just mentioned, to see who they were censoring.
00:25:26.540 And your name, Steve Bannon, this show is going to be included in the first tranche of search terms, sort of research junk that they'll be putting out to see how the government was censoring us.
00:25:37.200 Natalie, by the way, a huge hat tip over to Secretary Rubio and Darren Beattie, everybody over state, Michael Benz, we're going to try to break it down and show more of it to you tomorrow morning.
00:25:49.820 Incredible interview by Benz, as you can imagine, Benz, but it just shows you, in Victoria and New Orleans, they're going to be melting down.
00:25:57.820 When Natalie says in Belly of the Beast, you've got Beattie working inside, you've got Secretary of State Rubio right there with Michael Benz in an incredible interview, going through so many deep policy issues.
00:26:09.020 When people take action, good things happen.
00:26:11.540 Natalie Winters, where do people go for your social media, ma'am?
00:26:15.540 Look, they've got Nina Jankiewicz, we've got Mike Benz, I'll take Mike Benz any day.
00:26:20.620 Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms, thank you for having me.
00:26:24.100 Mike Benz, fantastic.
00:26:29.240 More heads are going to blow up.
00:26:30.720 We've got Mary Holland's going to be here, this autism report. 0.97
00:26:34.140 It's unbelievable.
00:26:35.900 We're going to have Mary Holland from Children's Health Defense join us here momentarily. 0.95
00:26:39.420 Also, we're going to go to London, Lord Glassman.
00:26:43.100 The British government, and this is an agreement of Nigel Farage and a reform movement, the Labour Party, with reform saying,
00:26:51.980 hey, the British government is going to seize British steel from the Chinese.
00:26:58.780 Nationalize it.
00:26:59.620 We'll talk all about that next, right here in the war room.
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00:30:55.700 This is a preventable disease.
00:31:02.500 We know it's an environmental exposure.
00:31:05.380 It has to be.
00:31:06.200 Genes do not cause epidemics.
00:31:08.420 They can provide a vulnerability.
00:31:10.920 You need an environmental toxin.
00:31:12.800 Once you identify which environmental toxins are causing autism, what do you expect the impact
00:31:18.320 to be on the industries that are causing those?
00:31:20.500 We're going to figure out a way to make pressure on them to remove it.
00:31:24.720 And I think also, you know, there will be market forces that also exert pressure on them
00:31:33.740 to remove it.
00:31:34.520 And I want to say I'm very grateful to President Trump because he tasked me on day one of this
00:31:42.060 job with making this a priority of finding out what's causing the autism epidemic.
00:31:46.820 And we are going to do it for him.
00:31:49.440 The ASD prevalence rate in eight-year-olds is now one in 31.
00:31:55.040 Shocking.
00:31:57.120 There's an extreme risk for boys.
00:32:00.360 Overall, the risk for boys of getting an autism diagnosis in this country is now one in 20.
00:32:08.520 And is high in California, which has the best data collection.
00:32:12.380 So it probably also reflects the national trend, one in 12.5 boys.
00:32:23.100 This is part of an unrelenting upward trend.
00:32:27.260 The prevalence two years ago was one in 36.
00:32:30.180 Since the first ADTM report in 1990, which was 1992 births, autism has increased by a factor
00:32:41.040 of 4.8.
00:32:43.480 That's 480 percent, I believe.
00:32:48.920 Folks, in everything else that happened today, this may be the most historic.
00:32:52.920 This is a bombshell.
00:32:54.260 And this is ripping through the city right now with unbelief.
00:32:58.120 This shows you the power of everything you did to get Donald Trump in office.
00:33:03.560 Because this is historic and, quite frankly, as powerful as what we just saw at the State
00:33:09.340 Department, this is even more powerful over at Health and Human Services.
00:33:14.400 Mary Holland joins me.
00:33:16.800 I'm like, I'm new to this part of it.
00:33:18.920 And it's really not my line of country.
00:33:20.480 But I know enough to know I'm gobsmacked about this.
00:33:23.000 But you've dedicated your life to this.
00:33:24.600 How big a deal was this speech today in the putting forward of this study?
00:33:30.460 Steve, it's huge.
00:33:32.180 Literally, I and, you know, thousands and thousands of other people have been waiting 20, 25 years
00:33:39.040 to hear somebody in government say this is an epidemic.
00:33:41.980 And the narrative that this is just better diagnosis, smarter doctors, is absurd.
00:33:47.720 And that's what Bobby said today.
00:33:49.380 Bobby Kennedy, the secretary, said it's an epidemic.
00:33:52.600 It's real.
00:33:54.020 It's not about better diagnosing.
00:33:56.120 And we've got to find the causes.
00:33:57.780 And we've got to stop it.
00:33:59.280 And I just can't begin to tell you how welcome that is.
00:34:02.680 And it was interesting.
00:34:03.340 I was able to watch some Fox coverage of that immediately after the announcement, the press
00:34:10.140 conference.
00:34:11.100 And it opened up the dialogue.
00:34:13.220 Here were these people talking about what the toxic exposures might be.
00:34:17.420 It might be food.
00:34:18.360 It might be vaccines.
00:34:19.540 It might be air pollution.
00:34:20.800 It might be water pollution.
00:34:22.160 And they were talking about how important it is to parents to stop this, right?
00:34:27.100 It was just an open conversation.
00:34:29.160 And they said what was so important is now we can talk about this.
00:34:32.160 For 20 years, this was a suppressed topic.
00:34:35.500 If you said that maybe it was the food or maybe it was the vaccines, you are a conspiracy
00:34:40.580 theorist.
00:34:41.580 You are shut down.
00:34:43.000 You could not have a polite conversation of this is a crisis.
00:34:46.680 This is an epidemic.
00:34:47.680 So it was huge.
00:34:49.500 I think this is the beginning of a new narrative that this is an epidemic.
00:34:53.420 We have to stop this.
00:34:54.500 This is a disability.
00:34:56.180 And that it's not OK.
00:34:58.520 It's not just about, you know, happy talk.
00:35:02.440 It's about we've got to stop this.
00:35:04.100 This is a crisis.
00:35:06.160 OK.
00:35:06.380 New York Times and MSN embassy are already on offense in this information war, criticizing
00:35:12.580 the study.
00:35:13.100 Walk us through because the numbers are kind of shocking.
00:35:16.860 One in 31 for the country.
00:35:20.580 One in 12 boys in California.
00:35:23.260 Did I hear that number correctly?
00:35:25.880 You did.
00:35:26.440 One in 12.5 is what Secretary Kennedy just said.
00:35:29.840 So the numbers, it's interesting, Steve, that the numbers are not consistent across the
00:35:34.440 country.
00:35:34.940 In different, there's about 16 centers that participate in this CDC study that they've
00:35:39.380 been conducting for many, many years.
00:35:41.820 One of the real flaws of this study, the Autism Developmental Disability Surveillance Study,
00:35:49.140 is that it's taking data.
00:35:50.860 This is data from 2022 that took them five years to analyze, and it's of eight-year-olds.
00:35:56.660 So you can be certain that the real numbers of what's happening to two and three and four-year-olds
00:36:01.900 is worse than what we're seeing in this one in 31.
00:36:05.500 So as Bobby Kennedy said, there are areas where there's lower prevalence.
00:36:09.660 There are areas where there are higher prevalence.
00:36:11.960 One in 12.5 boys in California is catastrophic.
00:36:16.700 As he said, a substantial percentage of these people are people who cannot talk.
00:36:22.800 They're non-speakers. 0.99
00:36:24.300 They have very serious comorbid conditions.
00:36:26.680 They may have comorbid intellectual disability.
00:36:29.040 They may have seizure disorders.
00:36:30.460 They may have gastrointestinal problems.
00:36:32.200 They may not be able to be toilet trained.
00:36:34.360 They may be headbanging.
00:36:35.800 Some of these are incredibly difficult health conditions to deal with.
00:36:40.140 And I think Bobby Kennedy just opened up this dialogue, opened up this conversation that
00:36:45.760 this country desperately needs.
00:36:47.820 He talked about epidemic denial, Steve, and that's what it's been for 20 years.
00:36:52.620 This is frightening information to The New York Times, The Washington Post that's been
00:36:57.160 a part of this denial.
00:36:58.200 And it's frightening to these industries that may be culpable, right?
00:37:03.160 As Bobby Kennedy said, it's environmental.
00:37:05.540 There are no genetic epidemics.
00:37:07.280 So it must be somebody, as he said in the press conference, who's making money on this.
00:37:12.600 It must be that these toxic exposures are somehow profitable.
00:37:16.760 And so what he said and what President Trump has said is we're going to get to the bottom
00:37:21.680 of it.
00:37:22.340 There was a question from the press.
00:37:23.820 Are they going to have the full answer by September, which they've talked about?
00:37:27.520 And Bobby Kennedy said, well, we'll be able to start answering that question by September.
00:37:31.300 Given his hearings, isn't this the worst nightmare?
00:37:36.860 Isn't this the worst case of what all the opposition and the people paid by the big pharma
00:37:42.660 were sitting there warning the media about this guy is going to start releasing studies?
00:37:47.440 Isn't this their worst nightmare?
00:37:48.920 What happened today?
00:37:50.440 They are not happy, Steve.
00:37:52.700 I think we will continue to see tremendous vilification of Bobby Kennedy, of the people that he is bringing
00:38:00.160 to do the studies on this, to look at the numbers.
00:38:04.900 We have to just ride that out, because it's too important to pay attention to the people
00:38:11.460 who are going to continue to deny the epidemic and say, Bobby Kennedy is outside the mainstream.
00:38:16.920 And if we just listen to elite institutions, they'll tell us it's all about diagnostics,
00:38:21.520 substitution, and so on.
00:38:23.160 No, it's a real crisis.
00:38:24.800 Anybody who's been paying attention knows that every family in America has been affected by
00:38:29.340 this, and it's time that we got to the bottom of it.
00:38:32.980 So on all the tax you're doing, I just want to make sure we got the facts before you let
00:38:36.320 you go.
00:38:37.120 This is a CDC study, is it not?
00:38:40.860 Yes.
00:38:41.480 So this ADDM, Adam, it's called, has been done periodically every two years since the 1990s.
00:38:48.800 And one of the other really terrific things about this press conference, and I was there
00:38:52.480 today, was that Robert Kennedy, the secretary, had Walter Zaharodny from New Jersey there.
00:38:58.020 Walter Zaharodny is a psychologist who's been doing this study over the years, and he confirmed
00:39:05.080 what Secretary Kennedy said.
00:39:07.180 This is a real rise.
00:39:09.020 This is a rise in 20 years of over 300 percent.
00:39:13.100 This is not better diagnosing.
00:39:15.680 That has been, as Bobby called it, the canard that they've been using for decades. 0.98
00:39:20.960 That is ridiculous. 0.82
00:39:22.140 You don't see people in their 70s, as Bobby said, you don't see people going around in 0.99
00:39:28.380 the mall in diapers and headbanging and unable to talk.
00:39:32.080 They don't exist.
00:39:33.740 These are people who are existing in their 30s, in their 20s, in their teens, and as young
00:39:39.080 children.
00:39:39.880 That tells us that this is environmental.
00:39:42.220 And as Bobby Kennedy said also, he pointed to a study that was done by the Environmental
00:39:47.580 Protection Agency in the 90s, but it pointed to the steep increase in three different countries
00:39:54.560 in 1989.
00:39:56.100 There was a change point year.
00:39:58.440 That's from the EPA.
00:40:00.060 We have to go back and look at what were those environmental exposures that changed in 1989.
00:40:05.100 And as he said, we have to look for factors that affect boys four times as prevalently
00:40:11.380 as girls.
00:40:12.300 That's a limited number.
00:40:13.620 It's not a zero or a one number, but you have to look for the exposures that started to rise
00:40:18.780 dramatically in 1989, per the EPA, and that affect boys four to one.
00:40:26.300 Where do people go?
00:40:27.500 Mary, we want to have you back on.
00:40:29.000 I'll talk to you tonight, maybe tomorrow.
00:40:30.680 We've got to drill down more on this.
00:40:32.100 Where do people go to get all the information Children's Health Defense is putting out about
00:40:36.680 this, ma'am?
00:40:37.880 Please come to childrenshealthdefense.org.
00:40:40.980 You can sign up for our free newsletter.
00:40:43.040 We are covering this.
00:40:44.120 Sign up for Children's Health Defense TV, CHD TV.
00:40:47.380 We will be talking about it there.
00:40:49.080 You can find information about it on our website.
00:40:51.960 We are going to be on top of this.
00:40:53.660 This is absolutely central to our mission.
00:40:57.400 Mary Holland, thank you very much.
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00:42:21.080 Something big is going on in the United Kingdom right now.
00:42:24.000 Lord Glassman from the House of Lords joins me.
00:42:26.500 Thank you for staying up so late tonight.
00:42:27.840 The Labor Party – and Sir Starmer was just over here last week or two weeks ago.
00:42:36.340 Nigel Farage are agreeing on a policy of – and let me get this right.
00:42:41.280 British steel was sold to a Chinese entity.
00:42:44.200 The Chinese entity did not keep it up and running.
00:42:47.640 And now the labor government, with support of the Reform Party, are going to seize control of it.
00:42:53.020 Do I understand this correct?
00:42:54.440 That British steel is going to be rejuvenated by the government, going to essentially be nationalized, sir?
00:43:00.100 Nationalization.
00:43:00.800 My favorite word in the English language is nationalization.
00:43:04.280 And our government has done it.
00:43:06.480 I don't want to exaggerate the extent to which Nigel Farage and Reform, a part of this, the Labor Party, the Socialist Party.
00:43:13.700 We nationalized steel.
00:43:15.280 We nationalized coal.
00:43:16.380 We nationalized railways in 1945.
00:43:19.320 But then, Steve, you've got the big story, which is the era of globalization.
00:43:23.060 And Reagan is as guilty as Thatcher.
00:43:26.720 How does globalization work?
00:43:28.460 Well, they tell you it's going to be more efficient.
00:43:30.260 It's going to be great.
00:43:31.160 It's going to be much more efficient, much better.
00:43:34.080 So we privatized it.
00:43:36.500 And 40 years later, it's owned by the Chinese.
00:43:40.220 It's owned by the Chinese with Communist Party members on the board.
00:43:44.500 And they've sabotaged our steel.
00:43:46.020 I mean, that's in the London Times.
00:43:47.920 It's all over the place.
00:43:49.640 They brought it in order to degrade it so that we couldn't be a sovereign nation.
00:43:53.420 So the whole story of globalization is in this story, Steve.
00:43:58.180 Talk to me about that for a second.
00:44:00.060 What was it?
00:44:00.980 What did it lead?
00:44:02.640 What were the events that led to the government stepping in to nationalize it?
00:44:06.460 And it seems to be one entity that's kind of pulling the country together, at least in certain aspects of it, that people realize we have to have a steel industry.
00:44:15.040 We have to be able to make things.
00:44:17.200 And now the Singapore and the Timbs crowd is finally waking up to that.
00:44:21.060 Yeah, they're absolutely in retreat.
00:44:24.440 Not that they – it's exactly a really good show tonight, where time after time, on issue after issue, the progressive globalizers are exposed as frauds.
00:44:34.360 It's just like that.
00:44:36.140 And, you know, the Republican Party was part of this, that whole thing that you couldn't have an economy that worked in the interests of workers.
00:44:44.840 It had to work in the interest of capital.
00:44:46.720 All in China, no free and democratic trade unions, 24-hour-a-day production, high returns, maximum returns. 0.93
00:44:54.680 All of our inheritance was invested in China.
00:44:57.840 And so basically privatization is just a front for the colonization of our country by hostile foreign powers.
00:45:04.760 And people understand it now.
00:45:06.280 They're really getting to understand it.
00:45:08.380 Same battle here as in America. 0.75
00:45:11.280 Legalism, legalism.
00:45:12.480 But on this case, the British state is good because the prime minister represents the king, one tiny act of parliament, and now British steel is nationalized and owned by the state, by the people.
00:45:24.080 And the economy can begin to work in the interests of people.
00:45:28.420 In the basic economic analysis coming out, though, the way the Chinese have left British steel today, it loses essentially a million pounds a day.
00:45:37.940 Is that the correct accounting?
00:45:39.660 Yeah, but this is the whole point with sovereignty, Steve.
00:45:43.580 If you're incapable of building weapons, if you're incapable of defending yourself, if all you can do is go shopping, you lose your sovereignty, you lose your democracy, you lose your liberty.
00:45:58.280 And this is what we're now waking up to.
00:46:01.160 And so this is part of a re-industrialization.
00:46:03.800 We are absolutely going down the same road as you're trying to go down.
00:46:07.700 So in this process of re-industrialization and the first step is to seize British steel from its Chinese owners, which, as you said, have gone out of the way to try to destroy it, how does then Nigel and the Reform Party, you have these huge elections coming up, the local elections coming up in May, and people are saying, hey, if Nigel and the Reform Party do well, they could really be the challenge to the labor. 0.83
00:46:33.600 Sure, it won't be the Tories.
00:46:35.500 Nigel, and you know him very well, he introduced me to you, and he speaks so highly, he thinks you're one of the most brilliant men in all of the United Kingdom.
00:46:44.400 Nigel is a Thatcherite.
00:46:45.780 How does a Thatcherite that's leading a Reform Party actually sit there and say that this is a smart thing to do, sir?
00:46:52.680 This is what we call in England the reverse ferret, when a politician, you've seen it many times, just swings 180 degrees.
00:47:01.060 He's been Mr. Singapore on the Thames.
00:47:03.260 Now, my party is rediscovering its soul, it's working and it's acting in the interests of workers, in the interests of producers, and really is putting the great priority on sovereignty and national defense.
00:47:18.400 At which point, Nigel Farage says, yeah, I believe in nationalization.
00:47:21.940 You should see him, not just steel, he wants now the nationalization of water.
00:47:25.600 So, bring it on, the battle at the next election is blue labor versus reform, and our inheritance and our whole identity is based on a political economy that works in the interests of people, not a profit.
00:47:40.340 You've had your establishment, whether it's Tory or labor, like, for instance, David Cameron and Lord Mandelson and others, being the employee or very closely associated with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:47:51.560 How is that going to play out of what your elites have done here to leave the working people in England in this shape?
00:47:59.760 Well, our elites, your elites, same elites.
00:48:02.460 You know, people who absolutely, you know, earlier I was listening to Natalie, we believe in this thing called the NGO industrial complex, which is just a web of what they call civil society organizations that are financed by capital, progressive capital.
00:48:18.340 There is a battle.
00:48:19.220 You live it every day, and so do we, in order to have the real genuine interests and values of working class people represented, but they haven't been for 50 years.
00:48:29.420 We've lived, Steve and you, you and me, I lived our whole lifetime with this incredible ideology that free markets were going to liberate the world.
00:48:38.400 Turned out, it all worked out in the interest of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:48:42.440 Hegel called it the cunning of history, but that's the truth of it.
00:48:45.960 Unbelievable.
00:48:49.140 Lord Glassman, where do people go to find out more about this and more about what you're doing with Blue Labor? 0.60
00:48:54.560 Okay, just Google Blue Labor. 0.99
00:48:56.240 It'll all come up.
00:48:57.960 It's all there.
00:48:59.360 Yeah, that's our Twitter.
00:49:00.600 We're really going hard on the grooming gangs at the moment.
00:49:03.480 That's very big for us.
00:49:06.440 Incredible.
00:49:07.020 Thank you so much, sir.
00:49:08.220 Thank you for staying up late.
00:49:09.380 Now we've got you to do the evening watch, because Ben Harnwell, after he gets about 6 or 7 o'clock, he puts it in the skid.
00:49:15.760 So we have Ben in the morning from Rome.
00:49:18.120 In the same battle, Steve.
00:49:19.520 You from London.
00:49:20.540 It's great to see you.
00:49:21.580 Yes, sir.
00:49:22.840 Great to see you.
00:49:23.680 Thank you.
00:49:24.660 Yep.
00:49:25.920 Go ahead, sir.
00:49:27.760 No, please.
00:49:28.780 Just wishing you a blessed Easter.
00:49:31.900 Oh, thank you, sir.
00:49:32.900 Appreciate it.
00:49:33.660 Appreciate you.
00:49:35.620 British Steel.
00:49:36.340 We're going to try to get Nigel on here to talk about this also.
00:49:38.900 These elections, these local elections in May, I think it's the 1st or 2nd of May, are going to decide to kind of to whether the Reform Party overtakes Tories and it'll be labor versus reform.
00:49:52.260 Nigel Farage making huge headway.
00:49:54.980 Of course, the economic situation of the United Kingdom kind of continues to deteriorate.
00:50:01.600 That's why the seizure of British Steel from the Chinese, such a big deal. 1.00
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