Bannon's War Room - April 22, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 752: SCOTUS Oral Arguments On LGBTQ Books In School; Fear Mongering From 60 Minutes On Bird Flu


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

166.45764

Word Count

9,202

Sentence Count

641

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

The Supreme Court s conservative majority signaled today that it will require schools to provide opt-outs for parents who have objections to LGBTQ books read in elementary schools. If they go that route, it would continue the court s years-long push to expand religious rights.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Supreme Court's conservative majority signaled today that it will require schools to provide opt-outs for parents who have objections to LGBTQ books read in elementary schools.
00:00:26.840 If they go that route, it would continue the court's years-long push to expand religious rights.
00:00:32.300 CNN's chief Supreme Court analyst Joan Baskupic is with us now on this.
00:00:36.360 Joan, these are parents in Maryland who want to be able to pull their kids from class on days where there are lessons using books with gay or transgender characters or themes in them.
00:00:45.500 Tell us how the day went.
00:00:47.880 Sure, and you're right. Religious conservatives have been in a role at the Supreme Court, and it looks like they're going to be able to notch another case.
00:00:55.460 It looks like the justices, from the oral arguments that went for an unusually intense, passionate two-and-a-half hours this morning, Brianna,
00:01:05.760 it looks like they're going to rule with the parents who have challenged the Montgomery County, Maryland school district,
00:01:12.280 over books like The Knight and the Prince or Uncle Bobby's Wedding, that the school had said there's no opt-out provision.
00:01:22.700 And during the course of the Q&A this morning, it emerged that really Montgomery County stands alone in not having any kind of opt-out provision.
00:01:32.900 And let me give you a flavor of some of the back-and-forth among the justices.
00:01:37.460 Over the discussion of Uncle Bobby's wedding, Justice Sam Alito said, it has a clear moral message.
00:01:44.700 It may be a good message.
00:01:46.000 It's just that it's a message that a lot of religious people disagree with.
00:01:50.360 And Justice Sotomayor then countered, looking at two men getting married, is that a religious objection?
00:01:56.360 The most they're doing here is holding hands.
00:01:58.800 So they got down into the nitty-gritty of some of these books,
00:02:02.180 but also the main thing they were concerned about, the majority, the conservative majority,
00:02:07.420 is that parents' religious views were essentially being usurped by the discussions in the classroom.
00:02:13.580 And again, these are for elementary-age students, you know, maybe as young as three and four in pre-K that it emerged.
00:02:21.100 But, you know, Justice Elena Kagan was more with Justice Sotomayor saying, you know,
00:02:27.100 how can we start drawing lines if you allow for these kinds of books?
00:02:32.180 Will there be other situations that parents might object to?
00:02:35.600 And the school board is saying if we have too many parents opting out, there'll be, you know, problems with absentees,
00:02:41.360 problems with how the learning actually goes on in the classroom.
00:02:44.420 Justice Kagan said at one point, if you allow this, won't we have opt-outs all over the place?
00:02:48.940 So it was a very heated situation, but I have to say what was exposed was how there's a really strong
00:02:57.280 sixth-justice majority ready to decide with the parents who have objected to this.
00:03:04.220 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:03:09.380 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:03:13.120 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:03:18.740 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:03:20.700 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:03:22.080 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:03:24.780 It's going to happen.
00:03:26.040 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:03:29.440 Mega media.
00:03:30.800 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:03:35.460 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:03:39.980 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:03:46.380 War Room.
00:03:47.180 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:03:49.260 Bannon.
00:03:55.360 Okay, Tuesday, 22 April, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
00:03:59.220 We know in the Supreme Court here in the War Room has a particularly controversial case.
00:04:08.940 Everything that comes to the Supreme Court is obviously controversial.
00:04:11.760 They only take on the toughest, thorniest problems facing the nation.
00:04:16.420 But when they have one that's particularly on social issues, it goes in lockdown around the Supreme Court.
00:04:22.780 I mean, real lockdown.
00:04:23.580 They bring out the blast shields, the federal, not just the U.S. Marshals and the Capitol Hill Police, but the Federal Protective Service.
00:04:30.920 They were all over today.
00:04:32.460 I had a couple of folks over for meetings and they go, what in the heck's going on?
00:04:36.400 They hadn't been to Capitol Hill when that's happened.
00:04:38.040 I said, something big is going over the Supreme Court.
00:04:41.140 And it was.
00:04:41.980 Tiffany Justice is here.
00:04:43.800 So talk is, what is this case about?
00:04:46.700 And my understanding from people I talked to during the day, this was kind of a knockdown, dragout, oral argument.
00:04:55.260 Most of these oral arguments are, you know, real professional.
00:04:58.080 It's about the law.
00:04:59.180 A lot of these cases are very dry about antitrust or, you know, contract issues.
00:05:05.200 This one was a Donnybrook.
00:05:07.160 Was it not, ma'am?
00:05:08.120 What's going on?
00:05:08.920 What's the case?
00:05:09.760 What's the controversy?
00:05:10.580 So last year, Maryland parents had the opportunity to opt out of certain curriculum in their kids' schools.
00:05:17.920 And it was a curriculum that included a pride storybook collection that had been made a part of the English language arts curriculum.
00:05:24.700 So this isn't sexuality education or health education.
00:05:27.500 This is now part of English language arts starting at the age of three.
00:05:31.220 There was an opt-out.
00:05:32.480 And then Maryland public school system decided that they were going to take the opt-out away.
00:05:37.420 Parents were up in arms about that.
00:05:39.140 There were books like Pride Puppy Steve that was being read to children as young as three in the pre-K program that was telling kids to point out leather and drag queens.
00:05:49.440 I think it was Justice Alito or Gorsuch today that was asking specifically about that book.
00:05:54.960 And so when that opt-out was pulled, parents were obviously upset.
00:05:58.880 This was a very diverse group of parents.
00:06:00.840 The case is Mahmood versus Taylor.
00:06:02.320 And it was Muslim parents, Christian parents, Jewish parents had come together and had said, listen, this is just not appropriate.
00:06:09.940 This is antithetical to our religious practice and teaching in our home.
00:06:13.100 We want to be able to remove our kids from the classroom during this instruction time.
00:06:16.560 And the school system said, no, you can't.
00:06:19.140 And so it was a fascinating case.
00:06:21.020 Even Justice Kagan today weighed in at one point and said, you know, I would imagine that there were parents who weren't just religious parents, but parents that were concerned about the age inappropriateness of this content.
00:06:33.360 And here's the thing, Steve.
00:06:35.240 Maryland County, Montgomery County Public School parents can opt their children out of health and sexuality instruction starting in fourth or fifth grade.
00:06:42.260 So the idea that somehow this is part of English language arts now and they can't opt their kids out was something that the justices really weighed in on.
00:06:50.300 So a very interesting case.
00:06:52.040 This case is going to have broad implications for parental rights and education across the United States of America.
00:06:57.540 And we were happy to see this case finally brought before the Supreme Court so that parents could have their voices heard.
00:07:03.400 One last thing I'll say to you, you know, you know who wasn't being protected at the Supreme Court who they didn't have to worry about?
00:07:09.420 We're the moms and dads who are concerned about our children.
00:07:12.480 We set a good example for our children.
00:07:14.460 So there's no violence that comes from us.
00:07:16.560 But the trans activists, that's a different story.
00:07:20.100 Well, let's talk.
00:07:21.440 First off, why did it get so heated?
00:07:24.100 And why was this was the hearing the oral arguments itself?
00:07:28.220 Did it actually go an hour and a half or two hours as been reported?
00:07:32.180 It did.
00:07:33.220 It absolutely did.
00:07:34.080 And it was very interesting because the tone of Justices Sotomayor and Jackson were very.
00:07:39.420 Different when they were speaking to Eric Baxter, who was the lawyer for the Beckett Fund that was representing the Montgomery County parents versus when they were actually, you know, questioning the Montgomery County School District Attorney.
00:07:49.900 The justices were very impassioned and very aggressive.
00:07:53.100 They interrupted Eric Baxter numerous times.
00:07:55.820 Wouldn't let him get a word in edgewise.
00:07:57.880 So that was very interesting to watch.
00:07:59.580 I think Justice Barrett really got to the heart of the matter because she started asking about exposure versus coercion.
00:08:06.060 And what she said was, you know, the teachers are being instructed in the teacher's manual to get into the details of this subject matter.
00:08:13.640 And so the question really becomes this.
00:08:15.720 Is this really about inclusion and kindness?
00:08:18.400 Or is this about pushing an ideology onto students and the Maryland County public school system wanting to do that?
00:08:24.480 An interesting note, one of the arguments that was used in the Fourth Circuit when the parents actually lost the case and was brought up again today by the Montgomery County School District Attorney was the fact that there was so many opt-outs from parents when this material was being addressed in the classroom that it would be difficult for the school district to handle all of the opt-outs that were happening.
00:08:45.180 I mean, what kind of a world are we living in when you have parents broadly coming forward and saying, we do not want this instruction happening with our children in schools and the school district saying, tough, we don't really care how you feel.
00:08:57.540 And so, you know, this is a religious liberty issue.
00:09:00.520 It was argued on that front.
00:09:01.800 But I really feel it's a parental rights issue at this point.
00:09:05.420 These are our children.
00:09:06.560 We do not co-parent with the government.
00:09:08.120 And I know I've come on your show many times and I've said to you, parents have the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their children.
00:09:14.820 This is a God-given right.
00:09:16.500 This is not a right the government gives you.
00:09:18.680 And that includes and is not limited to their education, their religion, their medical care.
00:09:24.300 And so this decision by the Supreme Court is going to be a huge decision that will have long-lasting ramifications for parents and public education in this country.
00:09:33.880 Look, I think a lot of people are in the audience right now saying, hey, you know, years ago when the pandemic struck, we started having this movement of parental rights in which you were one of the leaders of.
00:09:43.760 Explain to people, I think people were kind of shocked when we heard what it was about, that actually this is still taught in public schools.
00:09:54.380 In other words, they take these books.
00:09:57.320 I thought the libraries had them all out.
00:09:59.660 I thought this process, I think most people say, hey, we thought this was all gone.
00:10:04.400 And by the way, didn't the 24 elections settle it once and for all because this is one of the big things Trump ran on?
00:10:10.340 I think people are pretty stunned to know that you need to opt out.
00:10:13.700 You need to take your kid and basically make him potentially a target of ridicule because, hey, my mom and dad say I can't stay for the lesson a day or I got to be taken out of school.
00:10:26.960 It's pretty stunning.
00:10:28.100 This I don't think has anything to do with religious liberties.
00:10:30.440 Doesn't this just have to do with common sense and the basic rights of the kids and the parents?
00:10:34.500 It was an interesting argument that Justice Jackson made today.
00:10:38.620 She was really doing a commercial for school choice.
00:10:41.240 She was basically like, you don't like it.
00:10:43.040 Take your kids out of school.
00:10:44.080 Put your kids somewhere else.
00:10:45.180 But the bottom line is in Maryland, there isn't a lot of school choice.
00:10:48.820 Justice Kavanaugh, a lifelong resident of Montgomery County, was shocked.
00:10:53.700 He said Maryland was founded on the idea of religious liberty.
00:10:56.860 And so the idea that now Montgomery County, which, as you and I know, is a bedroom community of the administrative state.
00:11:02.860 So it's not shocking that this is where a real hub of woke ideology is pushing this.
00:11:08.340 But he was really, he said, I think mystified was the word that he used.
00:11:11.980 Justice Jackson tried to say that this is an issue of local control.
00:11:15.200 And she believes that there are safeguards that are being put into place of parents.
00:11:18.940 They should get involved in politics and run for school board or serve on school board and make these decisions.
00:11:23.240 But it's broader than this.
00:11:25.460 And so I think it's very important to understand that the fundamental rights of parents are being violated by what's happening in these schools.
00:11:34.400 Steve, there are all kinds of books that are in the public school libraries.
00:11:38.580 I do think that's an issue of local control.
00:11:40.860 The difference here was this is instruction.
00:11:43.240 This was actually being used as part of the English language arts curriculum.
00:11:47.400 Teachers had very prescriptive details about the way that they should engage with students in the book.
00:11:52.520 As I said, Justice Barrett actually read from some of the teachers' manuals that tell the teachers how to engage with the students.
00:11:58.540 And so, you know, there's one thing to say, oh, we want kindness and inclusion, anti-bullying.
00:12:04.520 It's another thing to say that there are going to be things that are taught in the classroom that are completely antithetical to the teaching in the home.
00:12:10.580 And I'll just say this.
00:12:12.080 Gender ideology is a lie.
00:12:13.860 There is no such thing as a transgender child.
00:12:16.360 There's no such thing as a transgender person.
00:12:18.620 There are men and there are women.
00:12:19.980 Imagine parents and people listening if 2 plus 2 equals 7 was being taught in the public schools across America.
00:12:26.760 Well, now we have gender ideology that's being taught in public schools telling kids your pronouns can change on a daily basis.
00:12:34.740 Maybe you were born in the wrong body that your parents or your doctor might have assigned you a gender at birth that might be incongruent with your biological sex.
00:12:43.800 This is just nonsense, hogwash, and it has to stop.
00:12:47.420 So, personally, when I listened to the arguments today, there was a want for parents to be able to opt their children out of schools.
00:12:54.540 That's what this case is about, is to opt your children out of this curriculum.
00:12:58.040 But I don't think it goes far enough.
00:13:00.100 I'm not going to lie, Steve.
00:13:01.400 I think we have to stop teaching lies in school.
00:13:04.100 Gender ideology does not belong in America's public schools.
00:13:07.360 Is the parents' movement still on the move to make sure at the local level they take over all these school boards and rid their kids of this stuff?
00:13:19.640 I know the movement overall, but they still focus on this radical transgender ideology to make sure that's taken out of the library.
00:13:26.900 So, you don't have to be in a situation to have this taught to your children and have them have to have it opt out.
00:13:33.480 You have to go to some special thing to stay home from work to, like, take your children out of school that day.
00:13:39.320 Yes, I think the parental rights movement is going strong.
00:13:41.940 President Trump, since he has come into office, has been such an amazing protector of parental rights.
00:13:47.040 He has welcomed parents into the White House, and he has told us that he is going to fight for us to be able to have the choice to send our children to a school that we know meets their needs and our values.
00:13:56.820 And so, parents are really emboldened by that.
00:13:59.240 Moms for Liberty is growing strong, still endorsing in school board races.
00:14:03.940 1776 action, also endorsing in school board races.
00:14:06.960 And an interesting point, Randy Weingarten was on with Martha McCallum today, beyond calling Martha sweetheart at one point, which Martha did not enjoy.
00:14:14.840 And that was fun to watch, if you can catch that clip.
00:14:17.820 Randy was saying that she wouldn't even teach these books in classrooms if she was there.
00:14:21.720 So, I think the tide is turning.
00:14:23.360 The one thing Randy did say was, she feels this is also an issue of local control.
00:14:27.560 She doesn't think that this should be heard at the Supreme Court.
00:14:31.000 This is interesting, because people need to know and understand that the left is coming for local elections.
00:14:36.800 They know that they can't make progress at the federal level now.
00:14:39.960 We have President Trump in the White House.
00:14:41.560 We have the House and the Senate.
00:14:42.840 God willing, we'll continue to keep the House and the Senate through the midterms.
00:14:46.280 But the left is coming for your local elections and for your school board.
00:14:50.400 So, parents, pay attention.
00:14:52.180 Don't let your foot off the gas.
00:14:53.520 You need to run for school boards, support candidates.
00:14:55.820 We need to stay engaged and involved.
00:14:59.140 Unbelievable.
00:14:59.880 Very smart.
00:15:00.860 Last thing, you made a comment earlier about the violence of transgender ideology and the people that come to these things for transgender ideology.
00:15:10.360 Why were the guards, why was this in lockdown today?
00:15:13.820 Why do you think it was?
00:15:14.700 The parents, you never see the parents, the Tiffany Justices of the world getting up in people's faces.
00:15:21.140 Why was this in lockdown?
00:15:22.420 What is it about the transgender folks that basically makes it kind of scary or kind of violent to get engaged in this?
00:15:28.920 Because the left is losing.
00:15:31.120 As you say, this is like the cry of a dying regime.
00:15:34.040 They are losing.
00:15:35.240 We have them backed into a corner.
00:15:36.780 And what happens if you back a snake into a corner?
00:15:39.000 They are going to lash out at you.
00:15:40.780 And so, transviolence is violence.
00:15:43.120 We see horrible violence coming from the left.
00:15:45.580 All kinds of death threats and things happening to our parents and the kids who are standing up and speaking out.
00:15:51.200 They want boys on girls sports teams.
00:15:52.880 As you and I have discussed before, the issue is never the issue.
00:15:56.220 The issue is always the revolution.
00:15:58.300 And make no mistake about it, we are in the middle of a cultural revolution in this country that was foisted upon us by the left.
00:16:04.100 And the public schools of America are one of the major battlegrounds.
00:16:07.680 So, parents, you have to pay attention, be vigilant, get in your kids' business, be on their phones, ask teachers what's taught in class, have family dinner, and talk to your kids about what they're learning in school.
00:16:17.880 Because there is, as we know, a real effort to indoctrinate our children in public schools, and we have to stand between them and our kids.
00:16:26.140 Tiffany, how do people reach you now?
00:16:28.040 Social media, the website.
00:16:29.920 I know you're a fire breather now to help us in all these causes.
00:16:34.340 Where do people go?
00:16:35.700 I am.
00:16:36.320 You can follow me at For Tiffany Justice.
00:16:38.680 I'm a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
00:16:40.660 Steve, I'm taking this fight across the country.
00:16:43.060 We're going to take everything I learned at Moms for Liberty and help other organizations.
00:16:46.200 And tonight, there's a Twitter space, an X space that I'm running with Sarah Partial Perry from Defending Ed.
00:16:52.060 Join us at 8 o'clock on X to ask questions about this case, to hear from Sarah, who's an expert in the field, and we're going to try to help to embolden parents across the country.
00:17:02.720 Hang on.
00:17:03.380 It's 8 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time on Twitter.
00:17:06.860 Where do they go?
00:17:07.380 What Twitter handle do they go to?
00:17:09.460 You can go to at the number four, Tiffany Justice, or at Heritage, and they'll be running that space.
00:17:14.820 And you can join us.
00:17:15.900 You can ask questions.
00:17:16.940 It's going to be a great hour-long conversation about the Supreme Court case today and parental rights across America.
00:17:24.460 Tiffany Justice, always on fire.
00:17:26.140 Thank you so much, ma'am.
00:17:27.200 Appreciate you.
00:17:28.000 Thanks, Steve.
00:17:30.920 What I wondered, do I have Naomi Wolf?
00:17:32.660 And I got Naomi Wolf on Skype or on phone?
00:17:34.760 On phone.
00:17:35.620 Okay.
00:17:36.320 Naomi Wolf, I want you to hang right there.
00:17:38.220 Something was on 60 Minutes the other night.
00:17:40.800 I was kind of giving a heads-up about it.
00:17:43.580 I watched it.
00:17:44.440 I immediately thought, Naomi, we have to have Naomi Wolf on here to break this down to tell me, should I be scared to death, which is what 60 Minutes wanted me to be at the end of their segment, or should I take a deep breath?
00:17:56.600 We're going to find out.
00:17:57.300 We're going to play it.
00:17:57.720 We've taken some clips from the 60 Minutes segment.
00:18:01.880 The crack team here at War Room put it together.
00:18:03.940 We're going to watch this as you're cold open, and then, Naomi, we're going to bring you in.
00:18:08.300 Let's go ahead.
00:18:08.740 We'll be right back.
00:18:38.740 So what concerns you the most?
00:18:55.200 The pandemic potential for a virus like this one.
00:18:59.000 And, you know, that is the worst-case scenario, right?
00:19:01.780 And ultimately, one we want to avoid.
00:19:03.960 I can't say that that's going to happen, but we don't want to play with fire.
00:19:08.100 This is a threat that is very significant and very real.
00:19:12.480 And I recognize also this is a moment where it's easy to sound like an alarmist.
00:19:16.580 What I'm here to tell you is this is a very serious threat to humanity.
00:19:21.540 And the longer we let this persist, the greater the risks are going to be.
00:19:26.680 Dr. Cameron Kahn is an infectious disease physician in Toronto.
00:19:31.260 His company, Blue Dot, was among the first to flag the virus in China that became the COVID pandemic.
00:19:38.840 Kahn told us bird flu is just as concerning.
00:19:42.260 He showed us how fast the virus has spread among dairy cattle.
00:19:46.240 It seems like almost a wildfire to me.
00:19:49.600 Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:51.160 Now, add in poultry outbreaks.
00:19:53.820 So this is virtually the whole country.
00:19:55.800 Pretty much.
00:19:57.240 Next, Dr. Cameron Kahn showed us a map of all the confirmed human cases of bird flu in the last five years.
00:20:04.240 Most have been in Asia until now.
00:20:08.220 What you start to see around 2024 is you start to see a case in Texas, and then you start to see this sudden, rapid increase in cases across the country.
00:20:18.520 All over the place.
00:20:19.280 What's happening here is wild birds have infected cows, who have then infected other cows, who have then infected humans.
00:20:28.200 And so there's this complex web of all of these different animal species now passing the virus in different directions.
00:20:35.280 Is this one of those things you have never seen before?
00:20:37.840 The world has never seen this kind of situation.
00:20:41.560 And it's showing us that the virus is capable of adaptation.
00:20:44.940 If you allow it, it will just get better and better at infecting other mammals, including potentially humans.
00:20:52.920 Most of the confirmed cases in the U.S. have been farm workers.
00:20:56.960 Most had mild symptoms.
00:20:58.980 The one person who died had underlying health conditions.
00:21:03.060 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say the virus still poses a low risk to the general public.
00:21:09.760 People are not generally getting very sick from this.
00:21:13.700 So what's the reason for all the alarm?
00:21:16.580 Influenza is a particularly formidable virus.
00:21:20.740 It is constantly changing.
00:21:23.140 And the more that we allow it to evolve and adapt by infecting people, I mean, this is kind of Darwinian evolution here, right?
00:21:30.460 It can change in ways that actually make it even more deadly or more easily transmissible or even resist against some of the antiviral medications that we have.
00:21:39.400 We are really at risk of this virus evolving into one that has pandemic potential.
00:21:46.560 And the reality is none of us know whether this is next week or next year or never.
00:21:51.520 I don't think it's never.
00:21:52.460 But it may be here far sooner than any of us would like.
00:21:58.100 Many scientists told us vaccines could be our best defense.
00:22:02.440 There is a vaccine for bird flu, but it has not been licensed by the Food and Drug Administration.
00:22:08.440 Moderna has a new one, but the Trump administration has paused its final funding.
00:22:12.940 There are vaccines for poultry, too, but they haven't been used because many of America's trading partners will not import vaccinated birds.
00:22:22.780 A glimmer of hope?
00:22:24.420 The USDA's milk testing program.
00:22:27.300 This is repurposed from COVID testing from three or four years ago.
00:22:31.760 Dr. Keith Paulson is director of the Wisconsin Veterinary Diagnostic Lab, part of the USDA's plan to test raw milk for H5N1.
00:22:41.880 Pasteurization kills the virus, but raw milk can be loaded with it.
00:22:47.660 The CDC is trying to ramp up its testing, but there's another problem.
00:22:53.120 Almost half of farm workers are undocumented and may be reluctant to be tested.
00:22:59.160 If we're not testing people, if we're not looking for people who might get it,
00:23:03.760 if we're not looking for evidence of an early cluster of human-to-human transmission, then we're going to miss it.
00:23:10.760 So we are now seeing the viruses spread from birds to cattle and now to foxes, goats, pigs, rats, cats, raccoons.
00:23:22.680 The fact that this virus can infect so many different types of mammals is a huge concern in terms of its ability to infect people.
00:23:31.280 One of your colleagues told us that if this should spiral into a pandemic, this flu could make COVID look like a walk in the park.
00:23:42.460 I agree.
00:23:43.980 You're scaring me.
00:23:45.700 I'm scared about it myself. I don't sleep very much these days, Bill.
00:23:49.520 Has the Trump administration gotten its arms around this problem?
00:23:53.720 No, I would say is the short answer, but the other, the longer answer is that I don't actually entirely know what is, what is going on.
00:24:03.860 Why is that?
00:24:04.880 Many of the people who are working on this, at least at CDC, have, have been fired from the federal government.
00:24:11.560 So the influenza division at CDC has been decimated.
00:24:15.220 And in fact, there is a communications ban that has been put on these federal workers.
00:24:20.140 Well, what do you think of that?
00:24:21.100 I think it's insane, actually, that I have to have conversations on encrypted messaging apps with my colleagues who I would normally just send emails to.
00:24:30.020 Kay Russo and others told us they feel stymied.
00:24:33.800 The current distrust of science and vaccines is hurting their fight to try to prevent the next pandemic.
00:24:41.100 I would scorch the earth if this ends up in children deaths.
00:24:46.220 And so as a mother, as a veterinarian, as a scientist, I'm just asking you trust us because I will do everything in my power.
00:24:56.180 And there's plenty of folks behind me that will do the same to keep this from getting to that point.
00:25:02.300 Okay, want to welcome Naomi, we've got about a minute here.
00:25:07.420 I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:25:08.380 So we've got a lot of time on the other side.
00:25:11.040 I got even more scared this time.
00:25:13.100 I saw it than the first time.
00:25:15.160 Should I be scared to death?
00:25:16.640 Or is this just a big one ad for the hire me for the for everybody getting ready to be laid off by the government, ma'am?
00:25:26.800 I mean, it's so transparent.
00:25:29.900 It's almost like they've got a template, right?
00:25:32.580 Like, you know, when Microsoft tries to help you write your resume and it's like, okay, COVID's over.
00:25:39.040 And I think really interesting timing is that RFQ Jr. reportedly is talking about, it's not a formal announcement yet, but I believe Politico covered it, talking about taking the CDC recommendation for the childhood COVID vaccine off the schedule.
00:25:58.980 So they really need, and the childhood vaccination with COVID is now down to 13%.
00:26:05.840 People just aren't getting those boosters.
00:26:07.480 So big pharma really, really, really needs a new pandemic, and big surveillance technologies need a new pandemic.
00:26:16.140 And so that's what they're creakily wheeling out.
00:26:18.460 And I'm telling you, if you Google bird flu cover magazine, you know, you get bird flu covers terrifying going back decades.
00:26:27.640 Time magazine, 2005, avian flu death threat, 1998, 2004.
00:26:33.980 They bring it back again and again and again.
00:26:36.460 I'm not saying it's not real, but I'm saying I have more to tell you about who the people are that 60 Minutes chose to interview.
00:26:44.080 Naomi, hang on for one second.
00:26:47.140 We're going to take a short break.
00:26:48.180 We've had a little technological problem getting Naomi up, so she joins us by phone.
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00:31:14.680 We're having some technical problems with Naomi.
00:31:25.300 We're going to get her back up because I want to get to the bottom of the situation with the bird flu because they're rolling hard on this.
00:31:32.140 Around that community, the same one that, you know, the CDC and all the people associated with the CDC.
00:31:39.180 Very explosive news coming out of the World Economic Forum.
00:31:44.160 I want to thank the engine room for bringing this to my attention as we were in the middle of the show.
00:31:50.780 Klaus Schwab, you notice it was kind of quick.
00:31:54.680 On Monday, the Pope dies and Klaus Schwab leaves, steps down from all posts at the World Economic Forum.
00:32:03.180 Breaking news tonight, there's a major investigation of Klaus Schwab by the board of directors of the World Economic Forum.
00:32:11.020 I believe him and his wife for potentially, at least alleged, investigation into misuse of funds, luxury travel, use of different locations.
00:32:20.560 Sounds like that thing can expand to others.
00:32:22.860 But it makes it didn't make sense while all of a sudden, you know, Klaus Schwab out of nowhere is stepping down.
00:32:28.460 So the World Economic Forum, which has been kind of crushed by the by the populist economic nationalist movement throughout the world.
00:32:37.280 You see right now there's some deeply there's some other issues that are that are dealing that are dealing with this.
00:32:44.200 Also, if we can't about so President Trump in the Oval today, number one, was very clear about this huge controversy that's had an impact onto the markets of a President Trump.
00:32:56.600 Is he going to fire the head of the Federal Reserve Powell, Fed Chair Powell?
00:33:04.560 And in fact, Hassett, I think, said on TV the other day, we're looking at alternatives for that.
00:33:10.660 And he's headed NEC. It was kind of an unusual thing to say, but he said it.
00:33:16.240 The thing was over on Fox.
00:33:18.340 President Trump today pretty clear that, number one, he's not looking at alternatives.
00:33:23.360 He doesn't intend to fire Powell.
00:33:25.740 He's not totally excited about the job he's doing.
00:33:29.900 He thinks he's late.
00:33:32.220 In other words, he thinks he always moves on interest rate cuts late.
00:33:35.300 It's no loss on anybody that President Trump's looking for an interest rate cut now.
00:33:40.660 But he said he wasn't, you know, wasn't researching alternatives, wasn't going to fire him, didn't want to fire him.
00:33:50.000 And also kind of implied or essentially said he believes in an independent Fed Reserve.
00:33:59.100 So you couldn't be, you know, to the point there.
00:34:03.100 Markets had already closed, but because we picked it up at about 5.15, markets closed at 4.
00:34:09.400 Of course, the overnight market.
00:34:11.700 Tesla had a disastrous announcement after hours on their earnings and revenues and all that.
00:34:18.780 And, of course, there's discussion about Elon Musk going back to Tesla full time.
00:34:26.620 I think there's some announcement or at least talk he's going to go back or he said he's going back soon,
00:34:31.720 but he'll still be involved, quote, unquote, a day or two a week and that he will remain a day or two a week until the end of President Trump's this term.
00:34:40.260 You won't get many people in the White House or in the cabinet or in Washington, D.C. to verify any of that part of it.
00:34:49.220 I think that people feel that, to be blunt, he's played his hand out.
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00:34:55.900 We need to see these cuts.
00:34:58.440 We need to see where the money, show us the money because we are hurting.
00:35:01.440 As we showed from last night's Stephanie Rule show, the U.S. editor for The Economist, brought up the subject that we talk about.
00:35:11.300 First time we've heard about anybody else bringing it up, and she's a heavy.
00:35:14.780 The market turmoil, and that was before today that we had a positive run, number one.
00:35:18.440 And I think this has been misreported by Charlie Gasparino, and I'm no fan of Charlie's,
00:35:22.440 but he's been doing a good job on a lot of these scoops he's getting out of the White House.
00:35:27.100 President Trump is not de-escalating.
00:35:30.980 Scott Besson didn't really say it.
00:35:32.440 What they're saying is that they went up the escalatory ladder very quickly to 125% tariffs and then 145% tariffs because they told China not to come back.
00:35:42.760 China did.
00:35:43.860 Now I think you do have – they're at least in conversations because you've got a full embargo on all Chinese products.
00:35:53.980 We're engaged in the economic war that they've had against us for the last, I don't know, 20 years, but particularly after 2008.
00:36:02.900 And we know that they declared a people's war in May of 2019 when they tore up the deal that President Trump had negotiated with them and Lee He, their vice premier, for two years.
00:36:14.260 So it's not like President Trump is backing down.
00:36:17.320 I think Charlie actually said he's – he's not backing down.
00:36:20.540 He's looking to step down or look for an off-ramp.
00:36:24.860 I think that's – nothing could be further from the truth about that.
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00:37:58.340 That's where I go back to the amazing Naomi Wolf.
00:38:03.260 It's so good to have you back on here, Naomi.
00:38:05.520 So, Naomi, your communications expert, was that specifically structured by 60 Minutes to instill fear, not just in the American people, but also the political class in Washington, D.C., to say you're going to be held responsible if you've been part of this Trump effort?
00:38:26.420 You know, Biden was late, but Trump is malevolent because he's getting rid of all these great scientists.
00:38:31.980 Your thoughts, ma'am?
00:38:32.760 Well, I think it was probably a collaboration.
00:38:37.720 I mean, we don't have the notes and we can't FOIA them, but it was so carefully laid out to start with, you know, problem, solution, villain, you know, hero, antihero.
00:38:50.820 And the antihero, of course, is President Trump and by implication, Mr. Kennedy at the CDC and HHS.
00:39:01.920 And the crime of having laid off, you know, 200 scientists who are represented in this narrative of being out in the field, daggers drawn, you know, with their armor on, fighting to defend us against this new virus.
00:39:18.300 But they did read like a threat, you know, it really did.
00:39:22.420 And it reminded me of the threat that was leveled at President Trump, you know, at the beginning of the COVID pandemic by implication by Dr. Fauci and his team who were saying, you know, there's going to be a pandemic.
00:39:36.760 And then, you know, Bill Gates periodically says there's going to be a pandemic.
00:39:40.700 So, yeah, it seemed very carefully structured.
00:39:43.940 And the people, you know, you had to listen very carefully to hear them also say, the interviewees also say, it's the flu.
00:39:52.180 It's, you know, no one, maybe one person has died, but they didn't say died of it.
00:39:57.580 So I'm hearing the same kind of games that we heard in the COVID narrative.
00:40:02.760 You had this map, right?
00:40:04.420 And the maps in the COVID era caused a lot of frenzy and terror.
00:40:09.120 But the data sets turned out to be faulty.
00:40:12.160 And we didn't hear what those data sets were from, right?
00:40:16.640 And you also heard, if you listen carefully, that maybe it'll turn into a giant pandemic, maybe someday, maybe never.
00:40:25.160 But you really need to prepare for the worst.
00:40:27.620 So, honestly, there's no new news, especially because they didn't show if the spikes that they claimed, you know, are seasonal, cyclical.
00:40:39.120 You know, if you see the magazine covers, again, we've seen this return every decade in the news as a scary thing.
00:40:47.820 So I'm not saying there won't be bird flu or that people won't get sick or even die.
00:40:51.780 I'm saying they haven't presented the evidence that there's anything very out of the ordinary.
00:40:57.100 But what we do see is the same gearing up, A, of a political threat against President Trump, you know, really to kind of punish, to try to punish this administration for taking, you know, RFK Jr.
00:41:13.060 is starting to take really effective action slowly.
00:41:16.320 It was slow gearing up.
00:41:17.700 Maha was getting frustrated.
00:41:18.960 But he started to say, you know, vaccine, the word vaccine, he started to say the word autism.
00:41:26.860 He started to talk about ending the practice of advertising, pharma advertising direct to consumers.
00:41:34.160 These are huge inroads in the kind of wall of profit and wall of corruption that pharma has established.
00:41:42.180 So it does seem like an attack on that.
00:41:47.320 And lastly, I just want to say the people they chose to focus on in the 60 Minutes piece are not, you know, your adorable local veterinarian looking after your pet chicken.
00:41:57.160 No, these are people deeply, deeply embedded in the belly of the beast of global, you know, the global pandemic cartel, for lack of a better phrase.
00:42:10.040 This Kamran Khan, this doctor, this Canadian doctor, actually has a company that uses AI for, guess what, pandemic surveillance, scanning the horizon.
00:42:21.800 I'm reading from his website, Blue Dot, you know, and risk assessment, always be prepared by identifying threats that demand your attention, anticipating how they will impact your organization and responding appropriately to your mandate.
00:42:35.380 Watch that wording.
00:42:36.920 Pharma and life sciences, infectious disease countermeasures and global enterprise, global outbreaks, right?
00:42:44.740 So he's using AI to look for something that in the old days when we had epidemics, of course, people realized there was a problem because people were getting sick and dying, right, and transmitting disease.
00:42:58.320 And it was obvious, well, now, you know, if you've got an enterprise like this, you really have to look, right, you have to look in wastewater, you have to look in mysterious maps with no clear data sets, you have to have friendly scientists that have, unfortunately, just been laid off for your business model at the CDC to generate or outsource the indications that create so many profits.
00:43:21.940 And then this other veterinarian, this woman, she qualified as a poultry veterinarian, she got her poultry degree.
00:43:32.560 She was a veterinarian earlier, but she specialized in poultry nine months ago, according to her own LinkedIn.
00:43:38.920 And again, she's not looking after your pet chicken.
00:43:41.760 She was working at Purina, you know, massive kind of big ag enterprise.
00:43:46.940 And she consults for the biosolutions industry.
00:43:54.280 So they're gearing up to redeploy energies and resources.
00:44:01.620 The other incredible thing we heard, Steve, was this guy showing the testing for bird flu.
00:44:07.720 And he said, and you almost could have missed it, oh, we've re, you know, retrofitted this from COVID, right?
00:44:14.320 So they've got all these testing facilities that are useless now and not generating profit.
00:44:18.780 Well, you need to, you know, test something.
00:44:21.100 So, again, that's my analysis.
00:44:23.180 I'm not saying there will never be a bird flu issue, but it's very convenient timing and it's definitely politicized.
00:44:31.000 And the way it was presented, it was kind of that same way of the same folks trying to talk down to you and enforce something.
00:44:39.800 It may be something there, but I just think if they're going to put that information out, they've got to do it.
00:44:43.640 And it brought chills back to me of how they were trying to intimidate and scare everybody.
00:44:48.660 A couple things, Naomi.
00:44:50.740 You warned us about the WHO.
00:44:53.420 They actually did, I guess, pass the pandemic tree, but we're pulling out of the WHO.
00:44:57.340 Is this still something for us to be concerned about?
00:45:02.960 I mean, I can't believe I'm saying these words.
00:45:05.800 I guess by now I'm used to it.
00:45:06.960 Thank God for President Trump, right?
00:45:08.640 Thank God for the vice president.
00:45:10.900 Thank God for RFK Jr.
00:45:13.360 That this day would come that we would be pulling out of the World Health Organization.
00:45:18.180 I mean, it's a miracle.
00:45:19.980 Of course, it took a lot of hard work by the posse and you and people like Frank Gaffney and, you know,
00:45:26.660 their colleagues alerting everyone to the threat of the WHO and basically teaching America from the start
00:45:34.540 what is the downside of these global treaties via the WHO.
00:45:38.460 But the word got out.
00:45:40.080 Many, many, many episodes that you guys ran on War Room taught people what it means to them.
00:45:46.200 So I think it's a huge blessing to America that we don't have to worry about these psychopaths dictating our national policies.
00:45:56.860 It's a win for sovereignty for our being able as Americans to set our own course and not be subjugated to the minions of, you know, Bill Gates.
00:46:06.560 Can they still – but you warned us about these – but you warned us about these passports and all that.
00:46:11.800 All the countries – if we want to travel, all the countries of the world will be around this.
00:46:16.000 And can't these NGOs – can't they trap us with these NGOs?
00:46:19.520 I mean, we're not – look, first of all, we just started the process.
00:46:22.340 We're going to pull out the WHO.
00:46:24.040 I agree with President Trump, Herculean effort.
00:46:26.740 But these are demonic organizations.
00:46:29.280 We just told you when you were trying to get hooked back up, Klaus Schwab announced yesterday gone from WEF, you know, like out of nowhere.
00:46:36.420 And now Wall Street Journal is reporting a major investigation by the Board of Directors of the World Economic Forum into Klaus Schwab for, you know, fraud and misuse of resources, et cetera.
00:46:47.560 Really?
00:46:48.380 Is there a trap still laid with WHO through the NGOs?
00:46:52.560 Do the fact that we travel to other countries, they're going to get you on what you warned us about, ma'am?
00:46:56.680 And believe it or not, it was four years ago this month, the vaccine passports.
00:47:02.660 Four years ago, Naomi Wolf came on here, some lefty, and saying, hey, they're about to take total control of the world with digital passports and vaccines.
00:47:12.400 Aren't you concerned about that?
00:47:14.780 Yeah, I really am.
00:47:15.980 I mean, you're absolutely right.
00:47:18.340 You know, we're safe within our borders for now.
00:47:20.780 You know, we're safe.
00:47:21.740 I mean, it's pretty scary that our well-being rests upon really a handful of leaders and our willingness to continue to fight to defend our sovereignty.
00:47:34.220 But absolutely, we could, if we want to travel and there are mandates, as there were before, you know, tomorrow, it could be Italy not letting people get on public transportation or take a train if they're not vaccinated, if they don't have their vaccine passport or whatever other kind of psychotic restriction these people want to impose on us, the WHO.
00:47:58.700 And, you know, remember that they've always expand the definition of health and public health, right?
00:48:05.180 So right now I'm in Massachusetts, and there's a family that had their kids taken away from them because they didn't want to give them a COVID vaccine.
00:48:14.760 You know, they fled to another state, and now they're enmeshed with Child Protective Services.
00:48:19.180 So that kind of, you know, the expansion of what is health and what is the rights of the state, we're not safe.
00:48:30.580 And right now I'm also thinking about Britain, you know, where I visited recently, and I was on a boat with a lot of free speech activists from Britain, well-known people, you know, distinguished people, a famous journalist, a famous actor.
00:48:44.720 And they were facing criminal charges, you know, like, right, they were facing jail time, because of things they said on, like, very just ordinary opinion type comments they've made on social media.
00:49:01.060 So I'm not saying that the WHO is responsible for the horrific censorship in Britain, but I'm saying that the WHO can continue to chew up and spit out human rights all over Europe through, you know, these treaties and through alliances with the EU.
00:49:21.340 And Europe is not free, for sure, they are not free.
00:49:26.960 I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm just thinking lastly, and I promise I'll stop, like, racism and racial disparity was swept up by our HHS and the evil Biden administration as something that gave local health officials, public health officials powers.
00:49:45.400 And that's the kind of thing that in Britain and Germany and other places where, you know, the racialization of society is so weaponized, right, by globalists, they could use that to strip people of their rights or restrict people's access to equality.
00:50:03.620 So it's really bad and scary. Yes.
00:50:06.960 Naomi, where do people go to find you, ma'am?
00:50:09.180 Uh, my sub stack is called Outspoken, and you can support us and find us on dailycloud.io.
00:50:19.800 Ma'am, love you. Look forward to, I'm going to have you back here talking about this autism situation with Bobby Kennedy.
00:50:25.060 Thank you so much for joining us today on a Tuesday.
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00:50:39.760 So today I just wanted to highlight one of our more popular products that we've also been having some great feedback on, which is our natural sleep product.
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00:50:54.140 So all four of our ingredients actually work together to naturally calm you before bed, as well as help keep you asleep during the night.
00:51:01.500 And also to prevent you from waking up without that groggy feeling that people oftentimes get when they take things like melatonin or other sleep medications for that matter.
00:51:10.720 But when we created this product, we were also searching the market to kind of see what else was out there that was natural.
00:51:18.520 And unfortunately, most of what we found were products that were advertised as natural or natural sleep formulas.
00:51:24.500 But then most of them had things like melatonin added or just other preservatives and chemicals that aren't ideal for health.
00:51:31.600 So also the issue with a lot of sleep products on the market are that or is that it's designed to essentially get you hooked on them.
00:51:40.040 But because all of our ingredients are natural and you're-
00:51:44.600 Hey, Trevor, we got a hard out.
00:51:46.700 Can the website people go to right now to contact you to find out more about this and to make direct contact?
00:51:52.660 Where do they go?
00:51:53.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:51:54.200 Everything I'm talking about, you can find on our website at sacredhumanhealth.com.
00:51:58.300 If you click on any of our products, whether it's the sleep product or the beef liver, et cetera,
00:52:01.920 everything that I talk about, you can find directly on the product links.
00:52:06.720 But sacredhuman, sacredhumanhealth.com.
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00:52:10.120 Go check it out today.
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00:53:39.360 Hey, War Room.
00:53:40.320 Hope you're all doing well.
00:53:41.440 My name is Trevor Comstock.
00:53:42.840 I'm one of the co-creators of Sacred Human.
00:53:44.960 And I wanted to share just a little bit more about our brand for those who may not know of us yet.
00:53:49.340 But about six months ago, we decided to launch Sacred Human with really the simple mission being to provide American-made natural supplements without all the artificial nonsense.
00:53:59.620 So, unfortunately, as many of you know, a lot of these big corporate supplements will include things like preservatives, artificial ingredients, and other additives that really aren't benefiting your health.
00:54:11.040 So, that's why we created Sacred Human, really trying to fill this gap of quality supplements.
00:54:16.260 And, of course, the beef liver being our flagship product.
00:54:19.460 For those who don't know, beef liver is loaded with highly bioavailable ingredients such as vitamin A, B12, zinc, CoQ10, etc.
00:54:28.320 And because it is 100% grass-fed and natural, your body is able to absorb these nutrients far better than taking any other synthetic multivitamin or any other synthetic vitamin in general.
00:54:41.540 So, we have some other amazing products.
00:54:43.600 But if you'd like to check us out, you can go to SacredHumanHealth.com.
00:54:47.100 And cheers to your health.
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