Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 753： Lawfare Continues Against Bolsonaro

00:00:00.000 I think they went well, pretty well.

00:00:01.780 Mr. President, we understand that your economic team, many of them are here today, J.D. Vance,

00:00:08.380 has negotiated what's been called a monster trade deal with India, like biggest one ever. 0.98

00:00:14.340 Can you share with us what some of the framework of that might be?

00:00:18.020 You said England.

00:00:19.120 India.

00:00:20.320 India?

00:00:20.980 India.

00:00:21.460 Oh.

00:00:21.900 Come on.

00:00:25.040 They're not very complicated, these deals.

00:00:27.620 It's about the tariffs.

00:00:28.960 India charges almost more than any other country in the world.

00:00:33.320 And believe it or not, we do very little business with India, other than the fact that I like the prime minister very much.

00:00:40.260 He's a friend of mine.

00:00:41.040 He was here two weeks ago, as you know.

00:00:43.500 And we stood right outside in a news conference.

00:00:46.280 Unfortunately, the grass was very wet.

00:00:48.720 It was very hard for people to stand on the grass.

00:00:51.200 They got their shoes all ruined.

00:00:54.060 But other than that, it was a very good news conference.

00:00:56.960 And he's a great guy.

00:00:58.340 But we do very little business.

00:00:59.620 You know why?

00:01:00.000 Because their tariffs are so high.

00:01:01.700 They have among the highest tariffs.

00:01:03.320 Higher than China. 0.97

00:01:04.620 They have among the highest tariffs in the world.

00:01:08.120 And I understand they're going to reduce those tariffs.

00:01:10.760 But it's really sort of their problem, not ours.

00:01:15.440 We do very, very little purchasing in India because they're selling. 0.98

00:01:21.080 We do very little selling.

00:01:22.500 I mean, Harley Davidson, I said, how are you doing in India?

00:01:25.460 This is about six years ago.

00:01:28.560 They came to lunch.

00:01:30.520 It's a great American company.

00:01:32.200 They make their motorcycles.

00:01:33.520 And I said, how are you doing in India, as an example?

00:01:36.380 Well, we don't do any business there.

00:01:38.040 Why?

00:01:38.360 Because the tariffs are too high.

00:01:40.580 I said, that's interesting.

00:01:41.880 Well, what are you going to do?

00:01:42.940 He said, well, we're going to build a plant in India.

00:01:45.020 And that's what they did.

00:01:46.200 I don't want that to happen.

00:01:48.460 They were forced to build a plant.

00:01:49.900 Well, essentially, what we're doing is the same thing.

00:01:52.080 Remember, there's no tariff when they build their plant here.

00:01:56.040 And everybody wants to build because they don't want it.

00:01:57.920 And the higher the tariffs go, the more likely it is they come in and build a plant.

00:02:02.420 You know, I mean, if it's 25%, that's fine.

00:02:05.400 If it's 50%, you'll get more plants.

00:02:07.380 75%, you get more.

00:02:08.700 And 100%, you get more than that.

00:02:11.100 And they're all coming in at numbers that nobody's –

00:02:13.760 I don't think Howard, there's ever been numbers like we've seen.

00:02:16.420 Never.

00:02:16.680 $7 trillion, $8 trillion worth in two months.

00:02:20.860 Because, you know, it took me a month to get started, in all fairness.

00:02:24.560 But in two months, we did this.

00:02:28.120 And now we're coming up on 100 days, first 100 days.

00:02:32.060 And I think we're going to be close to $8 trillion.

00:02:35.420 There was never any president that did even a tiny percentage of that.

00:02:40.160 Okay, any other questions?

00:02:41.180 One of the deals signed by your 100-day mark, and China is saying that we're threatening and blackmailing them into a deal.

00:02:49.980 What would be your response?

00:02:50.720 Well, I mean, China – look, I have great relationships in China, with President Xi in particular.

00:02:55.840 But China has been charging us massive tariffs for many years.

00:02:59.200 That's one of the reasons they were able to steal so many of our companies.

00:03:03.060 They took our companies out of America, and they built their plants in China.

00:03:07.480 And one of those things, so now we're reversing it.

00:03:12.960 But at levels that nobody's ever seen before.

00:03:16.020 No, we're going to get along great with China, I have no doubt about it.

00:03:18.560 Thank you very much, everybody.

00:03:19.600 Thank you, press.

00:03:20.260 Thank you, press.

00:03:20.940 Thank you.

00:03:21.880 Thank you.

00:03:23.240 Thank you.

00:03:23.980 Keep going.

00:03:24.680 I'm not going that way.

00:03:25.600 Thanks, guys.

00:03:27.800 Thank you.

00:03:31.060 Okay, right there.

00:03:32.300 Amazing, amazing press availability.

00:03:36.000 President Trump took it on from the peace in the Ukraine, the deal, Putin, the Pope, the funeral.

00:03:41.940 Did he say anything about taxes?

00:03:43.780 Hello, Mr. President.

00:03:45.660 They're not going to leave the country.

00:03:47.220 Call their bluff.

00:03:48.020 If you want to leave or pay in your fair share of taxes, then, hey, guess what?

00:03:52.120 There's the exit.

00:03:52.920 Anyway, got some work to do on the taxes.

00:03:55.420 Bottom line, math does not work.

00:03:57.900 If you give the tax break of no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security,

00:04:04.720 the numbers don't work unless you raise the taxes or – I shouldn't say raise taxes.

00:04:09.620 Just not extend your great tax cuts to the millionaires.

00:04:15.540 A lot more time to work on this.

00:04:17.120 Yes, but amazing press conference.

00:04:19.460 President Trump broke news, including – wait for it.

00:04:23.500 I think he's going to see Putin shortly thereafter the Middle East trip.

00:04:28.160 13th to the 15th, he's going to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar, right?

00:04:37.040 So he's doing all that in the middle of May, and he just said right there he's going to go.

00:04:40.920 We've got an amazing cold open.

00:04:43.420 Eduardo Bolsonaro will be with us.

00:04:45.540 John Lott is going to try to get Michael Patrick later.

00:04:47.680 We've got a lot to get to, and we've only got one hour to do it.

00:04:50.100 Let's go do the cold open.

00:04:51.060 We're putting up a beautiful, almost 100-foot-tall American flag on this side and another one on the other side.

00:05:00.120 Two flags, top of the line, and they've needed flagpalls for 200 years.

00:05:05.940 It was something I've often said, you know, they don't have a flagpole, per se.

00:05:11.820 So we're putting one right where you saw us, and we're putting another one on the other side, on top of the mounds.

00:05:18.380 It's going to be two beautiful flags.

00:05:20.000 Mr. President, Mr. President on China?

00:05:22.280 President Trump on China?

00:05:23.660 Payful by Trump.

00:05:24.660 Mr. President.

00:05:25.460 There are a couple ways people look at this.

00:05:27.300 One is that a religious leader should not wade into divisive politics.

00:05:33.560 The other is a moral leader is a moral leader.

00:05:37.980 What do you see, and what do you hope for the next person who assumes this position?

00:05:42.940 Well, the first thing is, you know, I think your personal faith informs what you do, but doesn't dictate what you do.

00:05:50.540 Secondly, I agree with the gentleman.

00:05:53.000 The selection of the next pope is going to be very important.

00:05:55.860 Look, Francis, first of all, with your polls, Chris, is really interesting.

00:06:02.000 He was not liked by a bunch of people in the church, and he was loved by others.

00:06:06.520 He's not loved by Democrats or sometimes by Republicans.

00:06:10.700 He's like a guy without a base, you know, which makes him probably pretty perfect.

00:06:16.080 And look, he was an open guy.

00:06:17.460 When I think about him, I think the story of the Good Samaritan.

00:06:21.080 And what he said was, we need love.

00:06:24.280 We need to support the weak.

00:06:25.800 We can't treat, you know, Jesus himself was an immigrant, as we know, coming out of Egypt.

00:06:31.200 So this guy was open.

00:06:34.220 He was more inclusive to the church.

00:06:36.260 He was more inviting and less role-oriented, sort of love God, love your neighbor.

00:06:41.160 This next pope, we're going to have an eye on him because they are influential.

00:06:45.460 They do set a lot of the way that Catholics think, but not just Catholics, but all people 0.91

00:06:51.940 who pay attention to religious leaders.

00:06:54.240 So the question is, is he going to retrench and make the church more conservative, or is

00:06:58.780 he going to follow the lines and the direction of Francis to say, we need to be more welcoming,

00:07:04.480 we need to be more open, and we should focus on those who are poor and sick and in trouble 0.99

00:07:09.380 and the migrants, and that's what's going to be interesting.

00:07:12.500 And that will be the great influence in the United States.

00:07:15.600 And I saw with polling the other day, the issue of immigration.

00:07:18.640 We're kind of split as Americans.

00:07:20.380 I would have thought it would have been overwhelmingly for reigning all the men, as they say.

00:07:25.000 But I think you're starting to see things change a little bit.

00:07:28.760 I think people in the country want those who are criminals to be thrown out, but the rest 1.00

00:07:32.980 of the people who are hardworking, believing, family people, I think the public has been

00:07:38.200 influenced by some of the things that Pope Francis has said.

00:07:41.200 More on this U-turn on messaging.

00:07:44.320 Jeff, what else is Trump saying, and do we know what's behind all of this?

00:07:48.800 Well, look, you may wonder what was the point or what is the point of all of this anyway,

00:07:53.340 and actually that's what the White House press secretary, Caroline Levitt, was asked by reporters

00:07:57.560 shortly after she did that Fox News interview, and she said leverage.

00:08:01.380 This has all been about leverage, but the reality here is that the U.S. has blinked.

00:08:07.020 China has not.

00:08:08.080 We will see where this goes forward.

00:08:09.720 But one person at the center of all of this sort of change in conversation, change in focus

00:08:15.860 here at the White House is the Treasury secretary, Scott Besson.

00:08:18.260 He's been sort of the calming presence to the markets.

00:08:22.220 He had this to say in a speech earlier today to the IMF.

00:08:27.560 I wish to be clear.

00:08:29.660 America first does not mean America alone.

00:08:34.520 To the contrary, it is a call for deeper collaboration and mutual respect among trade partners.

00:08:42.180 China needs to change.

00:08:44.020 The country knows it needs to change.

00:08:47.220 Everyone knows it needs to change.

00:08:49.800 And we want to help it change because we need rebalancing too.

00:08:54.680 So we have seen a series of postures really about the last several weeks.

00:09:03.020 First, it was a tough talk on China, no doubt about it, as the trade war escalated.

00:09:07.680 And the Treasury secretary is saying that China needs to change, but the U.S. does need to change as well.

00:09:12.820 So a softer tone across the board.

00:09:15.060 There is no doubt about it.

00:09:16.080 The market likes that.

00:09:17.160 But one of the other reasons we are learning there is a sort of a new posture here is because of a private meeting that the president had Monday in the Oval Office.

00:09:24.880 We learned earlier today that the CEOs of Walmart and Target, Home Depot and Lowe's, of course, major American retailers, had a private meeting with the president in the Oval Office on Monday.

00:09:34.260 They were talking about the supply chain disruption.

00:09:37.480 And one warning, I'm told, was as blunt as store shelves will be empty in the coming weeks if there is not some type of a new deal that has struck.

00:09:47.560 So I'm told that that is something that resonated with the president.

00:09:50.220 And it's one of the things that led to his change of of tone here.

00:09:54.940 But again, no tariffs have been negotiated.

00:09:57.540 So we will see where this goes.

00:09:59.240 But certainly on this Wednesday, a new posture, at least from the White House on this tariff policy for some of us.

00:10:06.240 I mean, are the markets up too much?

00:10:08.560 Should people be selling if they believe that?

00:10:11.420 It's irrelevant to me.

00:10:12.860 The daily trading of the stock exchange is irrelevant.

00:10:16.620 The Chinese Communist Party has been at economic war with us for 20 years.

00:10:23.180 And if you look at what they've broken, they've gained the World Trade Organization, most favored nation, the cyber deal, Obama, cut with them in 2015.

00:10:32.060 They never lived up to the Hong Kong in 2019.

00:10:34.860 They walked away.

00:10:36.280 President Trump worked for two years with Lighthizer, had that amazing deal, took all the seven original sins of the Chinese Communist Party economics away and integrated this.

00:10:46.620 Into a total global economy.

00:10:49.140 And they walked away.

00:10:50.600 Lee Hu and the team walked away in 2019.

00:10:53.420 And so you've seen what's happened.

00:10:55.160 They're at war with us.

00:10:56.680 They've planned for this.

00:10:57.980 But so Donald Trump yesterday says that he's going to be nice to them.

00:11:00.760 I mean, is there a turn here?

00:11:02.680 Because it really looks like he is walking back from this idea.

00:11:05.900 I don't think there's a climb down.

00:11:06.760 There's a fact right when we walked in here, Caroline Levitt came in. 1.00

00:11:09.280 So it's not going to be any unitary, unilateral walk down, right, to 50 percent.

00:11:16.080 Now, I will tell you about President Trump.

00:11:17.880 He went up the escalatory ladder quickly, right, to 125 and 145.

00:11:23.220 But this is a long, tough process.

00:11:25.160 So I think people trading on this every day is just the computers or the algorithms or folks.

00:11:31.740 I think you have to see that he's bound and determined to, number one, treat this as a premium market, where if you don't bring your manufacturing back here, you're going to have to pay a premium to get to this market.

00:11:42.960 Like you buy a premium skybox at a sporting event or front row at a concert.

00:11:49.540 He sees a premium.

00:11:50.860 If you bring your manufacturing back, it's a different deal.

00:11:53.440 But this is a long, tough fight.

00:11:55.000 It's not going to be solved.

00:11:56.680 You know, and the media is running around in the market, stock market, this.

00:11:59.620 It's very complicated.

00:12:01.180 And we're dug in.

00:12:02.500 And it's a battle between two systems.

00:12:05.380 If you think their system is going to win, you're kidding yourself.

00:12:07.860 It's not.

00:12:08.660 We're going to win this.

00:12:09.700 The American people are going to win it.

00:12:11.240 And Lao Baijing, the common man in China, is going to win it also.

00:12:14.300 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:12:22.220 Pray for our enemies.

00:12:24.180 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:12:27.440 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:12:31.700 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:12:33.640 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:12:35.040 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that.

00:12:36.800 But you're not going to stop it.

00:12:37.720 It's going to happen.

00:12:39.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:12:42.400 Mega Media.

00:12:43.300 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:12:49.200 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:12:52.940 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:12:59.300 War Room.

00:13:00.160 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:13:06.280 It's Wednesday, 23 April, Year of Our Lord, 2025.

00:13:09.060 I want to thank you for that great team, the production team in Denver, my own production team here in the War Room in D.C.

00:13:17.320 Incredible cold open.

00:13:18.480 So much going on today.

00:13:19.620 And that didn't even include any of the breaking news the president just gave you right there from the Oval Office.

00:13:23.920 I love the way he disintermediates the mainstream media and just brings you right into the Oval for these questions and answers.

00:13:30.760 We've got so much to go on for this hour.

00:13:33.340 We're going to get it all in.

00:13:34.640 I want to bring on Eduardo Bolsonaro.

00:13:40.020 Eduardo, everybody in the War Room posse and the MAGA movement is very focused on this show trial your father's going through.

00:13:49.720 We understand he's had major surgery for the assassination attempt on him when he first ran.

00:13:56.680 Can you get us up to date?

00:13:57.760 And then I want to talk about some polling that shows that, once again, he's far ahead of Lula.

00:14:04.760 And this is why the deep states got this trial going on.

00:14:08.360 First off, how's your father doing given these serious operations he's had to have?

00:14:13.420 Thank you for asking, Steve.

00:14:16.880 He's doing good.

00:14:18.020 He's recovering.

00:14:19.560 But this last surgery, it was the seventh surgery that he got after the stabbing, assassination attempt in 2018,

00:14:30.220 made by a former member of the Socialism and Liberty Party.

00:14:35.920 It's the name of a party, far like a radical left-wing party here in Brazil.

00:14:40.520 It's the kind of the politicians that usually, when they go to the U.S., they have contact and are very well-welcoming by Senator Bernie Sanders,

00:14:49.640 AOC, and these kind of people that you know very well in the United States.

00:14:54.400 But the seventh surgery of my father, it was the most invasive one.

00:15:00.360 It took a little bit more than 11, 12 hours of surgery.

00:15:07.560 And so it took time to recover.

00:15:10.620 My father now, he's 17 years old.

00:15:12.900 But thanks God, healthily, he's doing great.

00:15:16.140 The doctors are saying that he's doing very well, mainly because he does not drink, he does not smoke.

00:15:22.420 But by major part of his life, he was like an athlete in the militaries.

00:15:32.720 So he's doing good.

00:15:34.220 Like I think in one month, he's going to be back again in the field because he's really hardworking.

00:15:40.100 And it's a punishment to him, letting him in the hospital.

00:15:42.580 So how does this play into the trial?

00:15:47.820 What actually happens with this trial?

00:15:50.300 In abeyance, do they just keep going?

00:15:52.260 Because the system you have there is quite different than our system.

00:15:55.280 We followed President Trump every day when he's being tortured with lawfare.

00:16:00.300 Your system is a little different.

00:16:01.720 Is it held in abeyance while he's recovering from the surgeries?

00:16:05.380 Do they pick up again later on?

00:16:07.760 Are they going to hold it in abeyance for six months or so?

00:16:11.000 What's the current status?

00:16:13.580 So actually, the electoral court decided that he cannot run until 2030 because two things.

00:16:22.060 Not because corruption or any kind of criminal serious crime.

00:16:25.720 It's because he met 40 ambassadors when he was sitting president in 2021.

00:16:31.160 And he criticized the electoral process of Brazil.

00:16:33.940 So as you can imagine, it's pretty much the same reason of the mugshot of Trump back there in Georgia.

00:16:41.940 So for the same reason, my father is labeled as an anti-democratic politician.

00:16:49.280 And the other thing that made the electoral court decide that he cannot run until 2030 is because he made a speech in a truck with using a microphone after the military parade of our independence day.

00:17:08.040 He was even using none of public money.

00:17:11.380 It was all private in this event.

00:17:15.380 People didn't go to the capital of Brazil to be there with him, waiting for his speech.

00:17:21.600 So basically, there is no reason to make Jair Bolsonaro do not run in the next year election.

00:17:28.120 What is happening in Brazil is pretty much what just happened in Venezuela with Maria Corina Machado, as they learned with Nicaragua that if they arrest the left-wing opponents, it's very bad for the image of the president.

00:17:43.960 And likely, the international community will say that he's a dictator, like Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua, he's not a president, he's a dictator, like Nicolás Maduro.

00:17:52.760 So the new strategy of the left is decide, let's say, go to the law firm and bring the courts where they appoint the major part of the judges.

00:18:04.820 And in these courts where they control, they can decide that as a punishment for any reason that the men appositors of the left wing, they cannot run.

00:18:16.580 Look for Marine Le Pen in France, look for Maria Corina Machado and some other countries all around the world, like the U.S. 0.64

00:18:23.880 So in Brazil, we are suffering with the same virus that was exported from the United States.

00:18:30.280 And in Brazil, they learned that they cannot wait until the elections, that in Brazil it will happen in October of 2026, to then give the opportunity for the right-wing candidates to run and win the election, just like happened with President Trump.

00:18:48.760 So in Brazil, they are trying to speed it up as much as possible to not permit Bolsonaro to run on the next year.

00:18:56.200 And as the electoral court decision is so weak, they believe that Bolsonaro can overturn this decision, the electoral court, mainly because in the next year, there will be new judges in the electoral court.

00:19:09.960 So Bolsonaro has a real chance to overturn this non-eligible thing that made him to not run until the year 2030.

00:19:20.040 And they are trying to convict Bolsonaro for an attempt coup d'etat in the Supreme Court.

00:19:26.520 That's why they are speeding up as much as possible.

00:19:30.220 They were working everybody together, the Attorney General and the Supreme Court, in January, during the vacation time in Brazil,

00:19:38.040 trying to make it possible to convict Jair Bolsonaro for an attempt coup d'etat still this year in 2025.

00:19:46.060 That's why it's so important that Mr. President Donald Trump to penetrate the situation of Brazil and do not let it happen.

00:19:54.860 United States, we know that you do not interfere in other countries, but it's a tradition of the United States export freedom,

00:20:04.340 not export censorship just like Biden administration was doing.

00:20:09.480 If you take a look, Bannon, one year before of our election in 2022, who did come to Brazil?

00:20:18.060 Mr. Burns from CIA, Jake Sullivan, and some other high-level authorities that did come to Brazil,

00:20:25.700 basically to say to all Bolsonaro administration authorities to do not contest the results of the elections of 2022.

00:20:37.360 So we expect that the United States can be back again in the world field, in the world scenario, exporting freedom and liberty.

00:20:47.860 It's not fair to recognize as a president in an election where the opposition cannot run and cannot say whatever they want.

00:20:56.100 Okay, you've got President Bolsonaro is up in the polls.

00:21:02.280 You've had this outrageous decision that tries to bump him out to 2030, and they would hope he'd be forgotten about.

00:21:09.380 You had Jake Sullivan and clearly the Biden regime's hand all over this early on.

00:21:15.140 What specific action, is it OFAC, is it going after the Supreme Court in that radical judge, is it going after Lula's government?

00:21:26.380 What, if you can, because our audience can get in back of specific actions you give us.

00:21:31.320 We fully support Bolsonaro.

00:21:32.720 The audience loves your family, your father, what you guys have stood up for in Brazil, your movement down there.

00:21:40.380 But specifically, what would you like to see President Trump and or the folks on Capitol Hill and the Senate and the House do, Eduardo?

00:21:49.880 OFAC sanctions through the Magnitsky Global Act.

00:21:54.180 Because who is leading the law fair in Brazil?

00:21:56.960 Ninety-five percent is the Justice of the Supreme Court, Alexandre de Moraes.

00:22:01.840 It's the same crazy justice who is fighting against Elon Musk, who detained Mr. Jason Miller in 2021 after the CPAC in Brazil.

00:22:11.540 So if Trump sanctioned Alexandre de Moraes, we can have a hope to get back our democracy in Brazil. 0.55

00:22:18.500 And the United States administration, you have a bench of arguments to do that.

00:22:23.980 For example, Alexandre de Moraes was suing, he was doing a prison arrest guarantee against an American citizen that was because she was tweeting from the U.S. territory.

00:22:42.880 So he was sending her, if he has the chance, because nowadays she's in the United States. 0.53

00:22:47.360 But if this lady, if she comes to Brazil, he will arrest her because of tweeting. 1.00

00:22:53.940 So basically, Alexandre de Moraes is invading the jurisdiction of the United States.

00:22:58.880 He was also saying that the rumble and the truth social can come to Brazil, explore the social media platform business, but with some conditions.

00:23:10.600 If they censor people like Alan dos Santos, a Brazilian refugee that is living nowadays in the United States, if they do not let certain American companies to work in rumble in Brazil.

00:23:23.160 So basically, what he is doing is he is invading the jurisdiction of the United States.

00:23:29.300 And this is the same reason that made Trump sanctioned Karim Khan, which is the DA, the prosecutor of the ICC, the International Criminal Court, and all of his team of investigators who was trying, they were trying to arrest Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:23:50.900 So Karim Khan and all of his investigators, they got sanctioned because they were invading the jurisdiction of the United States. 0.91

00:24:00.740 So as Alexandre de Moraes is doing the same thing, I really think that Trump, he can do that.

00:24:07.180 He has a legitimate argument to do that.

00:24:09.880 And when, I hope that he'll do that, and when he does that, we are going to have new freedom wins in Brazil.

00:24:19.880 Because the scenario nowadays is Jair Bolsonaro is already the next president of Brazil.

00:24:27.240 It's just a matter of he can run or not in the next year's election.

00:24:32.540 That's why we are exposing all of that.

00:24:35.320 That's why I thank you, Steve, to have the opportunity to talk with your audience about that.

00:24:39.440 Because Bolsonaro is leading the polls, the major polls, out of the error margin.

00:24:46.080 And the thing is, the prognostic for the following months and for the next year, is that the economy in Brazil is going to do really bad.

00:24:54.360 Because, as you can imagine, a socialist, a radical left-wing like Lula da Silva, a very dangerous communist on the head of the Foto de São Paulo,

00:25:03.840 he's doing very bad things in the economy.

00:25:06.380 He's increasing all the taxes as much as he can.

00:25:10.240 He's trying to make up the numbers.

00:25:11.900 But at the end of the day, when people go to the market, they go to get full gas for the car, everybody realize how much more expensive are everything on our life.

00:25:25.200 So, with the economy going down, probably Bolsonaro is going more and more up.

00:25:30.580 So, next year, we have to fight for that.

00:25:33.200 Not only for Bolsonaro.

00:25:34.380 This is not a personal thing.

00:25:36.100 This is to rescue our democracy.

00:25:38.320 It's to rescue our liberty here in Brazil.

00:25:42.660 Brazil, great country, great people.

00:25:46.340 President Bolsonaro, a great leader of a movement and has put his life on the line.

00:25:50.960 And we hope he comes through all these surgeries and the recovery.

00:25:55.540 And he's got to be on the ballot next year.

00:25:56.960 We're going to make sure we're all over it.

00:25:58.560 OFAC.

00:25:59.640 Eduardo, social media, how do people follow you?

00:26:02.780 Because our audience wants to stay on top of this on a daily basis.

00:26:07.000 We have a lot of your colleagues come on here.

00:26:08.740 We're so honored to have you on.

00:26:10.980 But the audience, the Warren Posse, wants to stay on top of this.

00:26:13.720 Where do they follow you?

00:26:15.640 On social media, I am Bolsonaro SP.

00:26:19.080 Bolsonaro, in the end, Sierra Papa.

00:26:23.660 So, you can find me on next and Truth Social.

00:26:28.260 I'm usually tweeting, posting in English.

00:26:31.960 So, the American audience can follow me.

00:26:33.900 And some videos on YouTube in English, too, as well.

00:26:35.940 Because I'm trying to expose the maximum, as much as I can,

00:26:41.740 to explain to the Americans what is going on in Brazil.

00:26:44.260 And to prevent you from this virus, do not go back again in the United States.

00:26:48.760 Because if nowadays, this crazy justice from the Supreme Court, Alexandre de Moraes,

00:26:53.560 is even putting Mr. Elon Musk under investigation there in Brazil, for sure.

00:26:59.980 After four years, when Trump administration ends,

00:27:03.260 they have the hope that someone like Kamala Harris or any other radical left wing can be elected.

00:27:09.440 And they can work together, going after Elon Musk, Trump, and all of the Trump administration,

00:27:16.740 as you saw during the previous Biden administration.

00:27:21.340 So, we need to rescue Brazil. 0.98

00:27:24.300 We need to get back our democracy.

00:27:26.480 We need to avoid China dominance in Brazil. 0.97

00:27:30.300 This is another issue that is very sensitive.

00:27:32.220 I don't think that President Trump will let it happen.

00:27:37.980 And with Bolsonaro, for sure, all you Americans,

00:27:40.840 you are sure that you have a very good friend here, there, in Brazil.

00:27:46.460 I mean, because I'm talking here from the United States.

00:27:48.640 Thank you very much, Steve.

00:27:49.660 No, we know.

00:27:51.060 Your courage of you and your family, your father, is amazing.

00:27:55.000 Eduardo, we love you guys.

00:27:56.620 We'll have your back.

00:27:57.520 We'll be all over this, pushing OFAC up in the hill. 0.65

00:28:01.000 Thank you, sir.

00:28:01.820 Appreciate you.

00:28:04.620 Incredible.

00:28:05.400 Bravery.

00:28:07.080 Their lives are on the line down there.

00:28:09.880 That's how demonic this is.

00:28:12.840 John Lott joins me.

00:28:13.860 John, first off, you've come up with a theory years ago and backed it up with data.

00:28:18.220 Tell me how Brazil became safer under President Bolsonaro

00:28:22.080 and why one of the main reasons the radical Marxist left,

00:28:27.520 Lula's administration and these judges hate Bolsonaro

00:28:30.840 and hate the Bolsonaro movement, sir.

00:28:34.540 Bolsonaro revolutionized the rules for people being able to go and have guns.

00:28:39.500 Private gun ownership increased by something like 650 percent during his administration.

00:28:45.800 And when he started to propose those things when he was first running

00:28:49.140 and then when he got into office, the media worldwide was saying,

00:28:53.340 look, Brazil already has one of the highest murder rates in the world.

00:28:56.840 This is going to be catastrophic.

00:28:58.440 Murder rates are going to soar if you allow people to go and have guns.

00:29:02.420 And yet the murder rate fell by a third in the four years that Bolsonaro was there.

00:29:08.160 The exact opposite of what all these predictions were making there.

00:29:12.140 Because he realized that, look, police are important,

00:29:14.840 but they can't be there all the time for people to be able to go and protect themselves.

00:29:19.780 In high crime rate urban areas, he allowed people to be able to go and carry concealed handguns for protection.

00:29:26.320 It had a major impact on the risks that criminals were willing to take in order to go and commit crime.

00:29:32.480 How did you come up with this?

00:29:36.320 Because I think you wrote the book years ago, More Guns, Less Crime,

00:29:39.340 and the progressive left's heads blew up.

00:29:42.760 How did you come up with this theory that's been reinforced by the actuality,

00:29:47.380 the reality of Brazil under Bolsonaro, sir?

00:29:51.140 Right.

00:29:51.540 Well, I mean, my views have changed a lot over time.

00:29:55.160 If you had told me when I started working on that research

00:29:58.220 that I would have the types of views and see the types of results that I've seen,

00:30:02.380 I wouldn't have believed you.

00:30:04.280 But basically, I mean, I was probably in the middle of the debate on guns.

00:30:09.780 I only got into this by accident.

00:30:11.660 I was teaching at the Wharton Business School at the time.

00:30:14.640 And I made the mistake of telling some students that we were ahead in the syllabus.

00:30:19.140 And they came up to me after class and said,

00:30:22.740 well, if we're ahead in the syllabus, we know this isn't exactly on topic for the class,

00:30:27.820 but would you be willing to go and talk about gun control a little bit?

00:30:31.380 And I'd been chief economist at the U.S. Sentencing Commission

00:30:34.180 and done a lot of other related things, but I'd never done anything on guns.

00:30:38.400 And I figured, well, OK, I guess I can look at it.

00:30:41.200 And I just was stunned by how poorly done the existing research was at that time.

00:30:46.440 And so it's only kind of by accident that I got into this whole debate.

00:30:50.780 Why is it that we're going to hold you through the break

00:30:56.080 because we have a big story about Tulsi Gabbard and D&I that you're all over.

00:31:01.220 I want to get your thoughts on.

00:31:02.860 But why is it more guns, more safety?

00:31:09.280 Well, look, criminals, it's a pretty simple idea.

00:31:12.940 If you make it riskier for criminals to go and commit crime,

00:31:16.320 they're going to commit less crime.

00:31:17.740 So whether you have higher arrest rates or higher conviction rates

00:31:20.780 or longer prison sentences or the death penalty,

00:31:23.740 all those things make it riskier for criminals to commit crime.

00:31:27.340 Police, anybody who's read my academic work,

00:31:29.720 know that I think police are the single most important factor for reducing crime.

00:31:33.740 But the police themselves understand that they virtually always arrive

00:31:37.940 on the crime scene after the crimes occurred.

00:31:40.260 And the question is, what should people do

00:31:42.440 when they're having to confront a criminal by themselves?

00:31:45.060 Look, we have like 670,000 police in the United States

00:31:49.220 for a country of 340 million people.

00:31:52.120 Compare that to the 21.5 million people that have concealed carry permits

00:31:56.240 or the 29 states that don't even require that people have to have a permit

00:32:00.700 to be able to go and carry.

00:32:02.120 It's simply impossible for the police to be there to protect people all the time.

00:32:07.040 I mean, you're not even going to – maybe you have a third of the 600,000 police

00:32:11.580 that are on duty at any point in time.

00:32:14.060 They simply can't cover everything.

00:32:16.000 And so, look, you know, you go and you pass laws that go and mandate

00:32:20.560 that people have to lock up their guns.

00:32:23.840 You know, criminals become more emboldened to attack people in their homes

00:32:27.860 because they know it's going to be less likely that people are going to be able

00:32:30.640 to go and protect themselves.

00:32:31.780 And they're more successful in committing the crimes.

00:32:34.800 So it's not rocket science here.

00:32:37.040 It's just if you make something more costly, people do less of it.

00:32:42.200 John, hang on for one second.

00:32:43.600 I want to get into the situation at D&I.

00:32:45.640 There's a report that was put out, very scary.

00:32:49.040 And John Lott put it all in perspective over at RealClearPolitics.

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00:37:24.420 Okay, Denver, can you put up this amazing article over RearClearPolitics?

00:37:30.260 We talked about this a little bit the other day with Natalie.

00:37:33.720 Lott really breaks it down because this is shocking.

00:37:38.120 It takes a guy with the intellect of John Lott to put it into perspective.

00:37:41.240 And two things happening over DNI.

00:37:43.640 Tulsi's put out a tweet.

00:37:44.820 She says there's now two investigations going on.

00:37:49.140 I'm telling you what it's about.

00:37:50.380 That, I think, is about the national intelligence estimate, at least one of them, the investigations.

00:37:55.300 The leak on that out of DNI is unacceptable because somebody's taking a draft of a study or a study hasn't been signed off by her and her staff.

00:38:07.720 And leaking it out to chop block us in the Supreme Court because this gets to the part of the predicate that has to be laid for the invoking of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.

00:38:19.260 That's how the deep state's coming after Trump.

00:38:23.140 This, I was gobsmacked when I saw this.

00:38:25.800 John Lott, talk about this, Dean.

00:38:27.380 What Tulsi has released, that Biden's intelligence apparatus, the meaning of it, and how depraved this is, sir.

00:38:36.980 Right.

00:38:37.800 No, no, thanks.

00:38:38.560 Last week, she declassified basically the Biden administration's blueprint for their war on domestic terrorism.

00:38:49.440 The Biden administration in June 2021 had put out a declassified version of that to begin with.

00:38:55.960 But the one that they hid was very troubling because the thing they put out in 2021 made it look like they were just going after criminals, people who were committing crimes with regard to domestic terrorism.

00:39:11.180 The one that was just declassified last week makes it very clear that they were going after non-criminals.

00:39:17.640 They were looking at people simply based on their political views, whether they were using symbols like 2A for the Second Amendment, or they were using things like the Betsy Ross flag as ways of flagging people that may have views that the administration didn't like.

00:39:35.060 But they didn't more than worry about censorship stuff.

00:39:39.020 What they also tried to do is what they'd call debanking, make it so that people couldn't go and use different financial institutions.

00:39:46.700 So you have people like John Eastman, who was a lawyer and other lawyers who were working for Trump after the 2020 election.

00:39:54.860 They found that their bank accounts with Bank of America or other institutions were being closed.

00:40:00.520 It's become clear that people, based on their religious views or other political views, were having their financial institutions closing their accounts that were there.

00:40:10.720 When you had leaks come out, when whistleblowers would come out and say, look, they're spying on Catholics, or whether they're recording the license plates for people who had attended school board meetings and spoken out against some of the policies that were at the school boards.

00:40:27.460 The Biden administration would come out and say, oh, we're only doing this because we're concerned about potential crimes or people who were actually involved in criminal activity.

00:40:37.340 When you read what Tulsi Gabbard declassified last week, it's clear that they were looking at much more than people who were involved in criminal activity.

00:40:47.960 And that, to me, is extremely concerning.

00:40:50.880 It's a line that I don't think we've ever seen crossed by any administration in the past.

00:40:58.440 So what then has to happen, Lott?

00:41:01.080 What this thing is, if you read it, and we were deplatformed, I was debanked, President Trump was debanked, the people around him were debanked, taken off all the platforms.

00:41:12.600 What then is to be done to make sure that people that did this are held accountable, number one, and number two, that it can never happen again, sir?

00:41:21.480 I mean, part of it is getting the publicity out for it.

00:41:24.740 But Tulsi Gabbard put out a tweet last week.

00:41:28.300 I had gotten by Monday morning well over six million views for her tweet.

00:41:34.100 There have been a few media outlets, conservative media outlets, that had covered it.

00:41:40.480 But even they missed the key part there, that this was being applied for non-criminal activity.

00:41:48.320 You know, the first thing you have to go and do is publicize this and make sure that people realize this.

00:41:53.660 Nobody needs to take my word for it.

00:41:55.440 People can go to our website at crimeresearch.org.

00:41:58.760 We have a link to what Tulsi Gabbard declassified.

00:42:02.520 They can go to her tweet that she put out last week.

00:42:07.060 You know, it's gotten a lot of circulation, even if the media hasn't done it.

00:42:11.080 But the mainstream media, even Fox or, you know, let alone the legacy media, hasn't covered the story at all, let alone dealing with the issue about whether they were going after people who weren't involved in any type of criminal activity.

00:42:25.560 John, where do we go to go to your crime research and what's your Twitter account?

00:42:32.660 How can people follow you?

00:42:33.780 Because you've always been a major public intellectual and a leading thinker, not just in our movement, but also just for law and order in the United States and people's safety.

00:42:46.240 Well, thanks.

00:42:46.780 Well, our website is crimeresearch.org, crimeresearch.org.

00:42:51.860 And my Twitter is my name, John R. Lott, Jr.

00:42:57.440 So I appreciate that.

00:43:00.020 Are you talking – you're heading down to NRA.

00:43:02.720 Are you speaking at NRA if people are going to the NRA convention?

00:43:07.720 Is that where you're heading?

00:43:08.940 Can they meet you?

00:43:09.940 Are you doing a meet and greet, or what are you doing?

00:43:11.540 Yeah, sure.

00:43:12.800 Right.

00:43:13.160 Well, I'll be giving six different talks at the NRA convention, two on Friday, two on Saturday, and two on Sunday.

00:43:20.780 Everything from covering issues of media bias to issues about how the FBI has been corrupting data.

00:43:29.180 You know, you have people like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino have a huge job.

00:43:33.980 Everybody goes and focuses on kind of the obvious political corruption in terms of what cases that they go after.

00:43:41.280 But I'm a data guy, and one of the things that's concerned me a lot is that if you let the left control the data, they're going to control a lot of the debate.

00:43:52.680 And everything from, like, even the crime data last year that was put out, you know, in September last year, when they put out the crime data for 2023, they updated, without any mention, really, the data for 2022.

00:44:09.680 They originally had reported that there had been a drop in violent crimes.

00:44:15.600 But when they did this kind of secret update of the data, they ended up going from a drop to an increase.

00:44:21.880 So when you had people like David Muir going out and correcting, you know, Trump during the debate that he had with Kamala Harris, he was relying.

00:44:32.180 The only final data that was out at that time when he did the correction was the data for 2022.

00:44:37.440 Just a month or so later, when they put out the data, they admitted that rather than a drop that they'd been claiming there, it had actually been an increase.

00:44:45.840 But there was no mention in their press release.

00:44:48.600 If you read the report itself, they had only one footnote where they vaguely said that they had updated the data for 2022.

00:44:55.980 No mention that it went from a drop to an increase.

00:44:58.320 No explanation for why they made the change.

00:45:02.100 It was just outrageous.

00:45:03.420 And even when the media would go and go to the FBI and ask them about that, all the FBI would say is, we stand by our data.

00:45:12.760 They wouldn't come out and explicitly acknowledge that they had changed it from a drop to an increase that was there.

00:45:19.800 And, you know, I could go through lots of things.

00:45:22.200 There are data on hate crimes.

00:45:24.140 There are data on active shooting cases.

00:45:26.220 When I worked at the Department of Justice during the first Trump administration, one of the jobs I had was to go and look at some of their data.

00:45:36.920 And even when you would go and point out the errors that were there, even when you could get them to admit that they had made a mistake, to this day, they still haven't corrected those types of errors that were there.

00:45:53.080 And so, you know, Cash and Dan have a real big job ahead of them.

00:45:59.460 But it's probably even more extensive than most people realize.

00:46:04.920 One more time, John, and I'll talk to you after the show.

00:46:07.680 One more time.

00:46:08.400 Where do people, if they're going to NRA convention this week and this weekend, how do they contact where you're going to be giving your talks?

00:46:14.900 So if you've got a chance, you do not want to miss Lott, John Lott, where do they go?

00:46:19.480 Well, we have it up on our website at crimeresearch.org where the talks.

00:46:23.780 We're also going to have a booth.

00:46:25.660 I think it's number 2200 is our booth that's there.

00:46:32.160 And so, you know, people should come by and say hi.

00:46:35.240 I'd love to talk to anybody there and answer any questions that they have.

00:46:40.420 John Lott, thank you.

00:46:41.640 Thank you for the great work and thank you for making time to come to War Room tonight.

00:46:44.960 Appreciate you.

00:46:46.460 Well, thank you for being there.

00:46:49.080 John Lott, one of the best.

00:46:51.500 Guy's a no BS guy.

00:46:52.740 He's going to give you math.

00:46:54.180 Okay.

00:46:57.100 Got to figure out.

00:46:57.900 We got to get Lott in there.

00:46:59.100 Lott can help Cash and Dan a lot.

00:47:02.120 No pun intended.

00:47:03.860 Michael Patrick Leahy.

00:47:04.920 I want to give a hat tip to the great John Solomon, to the great Todd Benzman, and to Michael Patrick Leahy.

00:47:10.260 Although with Leahy, I got to tell a personal story.

00:47:11.980 I think we've created a monster.

00:47:14.160 Leahy, although he looks like he's in his 50s, is actually just slightly younger than I am.

00:47:18.380 He's 70.

00:47:20.760 And he's just returned to law school.

00:47:23.400 This is after going to Harvard College, which is not the trade.

00:47:26.740 I went to a trade school at Harvard.

00:47:28.320 He went to the real deal.

00:47:29.600 He went to Harvard College and Stanford Business School, which is pretty unique, right?

00:47:33.720 That's like players only.

00:47:34.900 At 69 or 70, you're going back to law school, sir?

00:47:39.460 Is that correct?

00:47:40.140 Yeah, it's great.

00:47:41.100 National School of Law, Knight Law School here.

00:47:42.900 It's a terrific situation.

00:47:45.100 Got finals coming up.

00:47:46.120 But I wanted to talk a little bit about the story that we broke here last week.

00:47:51.520 Amazing.

00:47:51.820 That the, quote, Maryland man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was deported to El Salvador by the Trump administration in March.

00:48:00.820 In December of 2022, he was stopped for a drive speeding here in Tennessee in Putnam County, about halfway between Nashville and Knoxville.

00:48:12.580 When they went over and looked at him, he presented a license which had been expired.

00:48:17.600 It was a Maryland driver's license just for illegal aliens, which means you can only drive in Maryland.

00:48:22.900 But it was expired.

00:48:24.200 Had eight people in the car.

00:48:26.140 None of them could speak English.

00:48:27.840 None of them had any luggage.

00:48:28.960 They all listed their residence as his residence in Maryland.

00:48:33.640 And they put him aside for an hour and 45 minutes.

00:48:38.540 They talked to the FBI, apparently the Terror Screening Center.

00:48:41.460 They said, take pictures of everybody and everything.

00:48:44.100 Hour and 45 minutes later, the Tennessee Highway Patrol confirmed to us last week that the Biden-era FBI told them to just release him.

00:48:53.520 That caused us to be greatly interested.

00:48:55.560 We looked and have asked Tennessee Highway Patrol, give us those documents.

00:49:00.300 They're slow walking it.

00:49:01.360 But the great John Solomon, early this morning, released a story that he had secured the name of the driver, of the owner of the vehicle.

00:49:11.780 His name, Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes.

00:49:15.300 Guess what?

00:49:17.340 Two years earlier, in 2020, he had been convicted of, wait for it, human smuggling by a jury down in Mississippi.

00:49:27.820 And same pattern, driving a vehicle with eight individuals in it.

00:49:33.040 He was transporting them from Houston to South Carolina or Virginia.

00:49:37.840 This is a guy that, quote, Maryland man, father of the year, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, claimed was his boss and also owned the vehicle that he was driving.

00:49:50.160 Okay.

00:49:50.760 Hang on.

00:49:51.460 Hang on.

00:49:52.140 What Solomon, when you found the Tennessee State Police, the Solomon and Benzmans walked through this, the Democratic Party has embraced a human trafficker. 0.61

00:50:02.140 Correct?

00:50:02.480 This guy had a, you know, phony, had a license, he's not supposed to drive outside of Maryland.

00:50:07.040 He's driving the car of a guy already convicted of human trafficking.

00:50:12.140 And he was clearly trafficking these, it's like slavery.

00:50:16.660 It's modern slavery.

00:50:17.720 That's what it is.

00:50:18.380 This is the Democratic Party is embracing it.

00:50:20.060 This is a slave trade. 0.62

00:50:21.420 You're bringing these poor folks up here where they're going to work in horrible conditions, right?

00:50:27.060 Because this is human trafficking.

00:50:28.440 And who knows that they've been trafficking women and young girls and children.

00:50:34.100 This is, he's driving the car of a convicted human trafficker, right?

00:50:38.180 And now he's caught, and the FBI says, which is terrific, on their old management, just releasing.

00:50:44.780 But obviously he's a human trafficker, is he not?

00:50:47.380 And that's what the Democratic Party is embracing.

00:50:49.300 And that's when President Trump's getting him the hell out of the country, sir.

00:50:51.960 He told the Tennessee Highway Patrol, Steve, that he had, this trip had originated in Houston, which is a hub for human trafficking, obviously, and had gone up to St. Louis and then was on its way to Maryland.

00:51:05.960 The pattern of behavior, this must be the economics of human smuggling, right?

00:51:12.200 You get a big van, you got a driver, you get a helper, and then you have seven individuals that are transported.

00:51:17.280 Same exact situation as his alleged boss that owned the vehicle, Jose Ramon Hernandez-Reyes, was convicted of two years earlier.

00:51:28.780 By the way, big deal in Houston.

00:51:31.220 We got the complaint for the owner of the vehicle in the stop two years earlier in Mississippi, and he basically told a Homeland Security officer that he was running a business out of Houston called Trans Express, and he was charging $350 per person to transport illegal aliens from Houston to South Carolina and Virginia.

00:51:54.460 But hang on, why did the Tennessee State Police, you got a guy that's got eight people that all list a home in Maryland, on a guy with a Maryland illegal, you know, an alien license that he's not supposed to drive.

00:52:08.080 You got these guys that are saying, hey, it started in Houston.

00:52:10.880 Why do they need the FBI as a terrorist?

00:52:13.320 Clearly, this guy's trafficking people across the country.

00:52:15.860 Why don't they just put them in, why don't they stop them and put them in jail and then do some deep research online about how these guys came across the border and who they are?

00:52:24.580 You would have busted all of them.

00:52:25.540 Why is the Tennessee State Police leaning on the FBI for terrorism?

00:52:29.800 These guys are clearly smuggling human beings.

00:52:32.240 How tough a call is that?

00:52:34.400 Well, we were asking that same question to the Tennessee Highway Patrol.

00:52:38.900 They admitted last week that the FBI under Biden told them to release Kilmar Abrego, Garcia, and these other eight individuals, but they have been slow-walking all that information ever since.

00:52:54.960 We wouldn't have known this if John Solomon had got this information.

00:52:59.340 Solomon, he's the best.

00:53:00.540 He's been investigating the report.

00:53:01.520 He's got sources all over, but full stop.

00:53:04.340 They contact the FBI because of terrorism, correct?

00:53:08.900 And it's the terrorism center that comes back, at least the way I read your story.

00:53:12.200 It's the terrorism center to say, hey, they're not terrorists.

00:53:13.960 I got it.

00:53:14.560 He's a human smuggler, smuggling people up here to work to be slave labor and indentured servants. 0.94

00:53:20.360 Doesn't the Tennessee State Police understand that a guy should be stopped right there, thrown in the who's gal until we figure it all out?

00:53:26.900 Just take a deep breath and let's figure this out, like who these people are, sir?

00:53:33.220 That's what should have happened.

00:53:34.560 It didn't happen, and it was very suspect in this instance.

00:53:38.040 You know, Todd Benzman, the expert on this, says, look, they entered the driver's information in the NCIC.

00:53:43.820 It went to the FBI's terrorist screening center.

00:53:46.960 It hit a flag of some sort, and they said, take pictures of everybody, take pictures of all the documents.

00:53:53.520 And then, an hour and 45 minutes later, they said, go ahead and release them.

00:53:56.480 Very bizarre.

00:53:57.820 Very bizarre.

00:53:58.540 It doesn't make sense.

00:53:59.080 It's not bizarre.

00:54:00.700 Here's the thing.

00:54:01.360 This is happening every day and every night in the United States.

00:54:05.240 Trust me.

00:54:06.200 This is happening.

00:54:07.060 Get it.

00:54:07.360 This is too much hassle.

00:54:08.800 We've got to take them in.

00:54:10.220 We've got too much other stuff we're doing.

00:54:12.140 Just let them go.

00:54:13.640 Just let them go.

00:54:15.340 It's not our problem.

00:54:16.380 It's my own problem.

00:54:16.600 Well, they should have talked to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

00:54:19.500 They didn't talk to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation because we talked to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

00:54:23.920 They said, we had no idea this traffic stop took place, and that was a mistake.

00:54:30.700 I suspect that the Tennessee Highway Patrol is stonewalling our requests for the video cam and images.

00:54:39.900 Hold it.

00:54:40.940 Dude, every time—Lahey's all over you.

00:54:43.540 They stiffed you at the school, the church school shooting.

00:54:47.720 Yeah.

00:54:48.020 They stiffed you in Memphis.

00:54:49.220 But you finally get them.

00:54:50.240 You surround them.

00:54:51.580 He's a honey badger.

00:54:53.360 Leahy never gives up. 0.98

00:54:54.320 Any guy who goes back to law school at 70, you're a beast.

00:54:59.440 This is why we love you, Leahy.

00:55:00.720 Leahy, where did it get to your show, all your content, your writings, all of it, your Twitter, everything, your law school, your class schedule at law school?

00:55:10.020 Go for it.

00:55:11.720 Go to TennesseeStar.com, TennesseeStar.com.

00:55:14.460 On X, I'm Michael P. Leahy.

00:55:18.420 God, I had a lot in Leahy back-to-back.

00:55:21.620 Those are two hammers.

00:55:22.720 You don't want to—you're sitting in your office.

00:55:24.740 You go, Mr. Lott on line one, Mr. Leahy on—what the guy does is slip out the wind in the back and go get a cup of coffee somewhere.

00:55:32.600 Leahy, don't ever change.

00:55:33.620 You're amazing, sir.

00:55:35.100 Thanks, Steve.

00:55:35.720 You see, this Democrats, they're down there.

00:55:39.140 They're going to have to own this guy.

00:55:42.320 This is a human trafficker, full stop.

00:55:44.360 And look, the cops got so many problems and they're overwhelmed.

00:55:48.640 But listen, this should have been a no-brainer.

00:55:51.820 Look in there.

00:55:52.460 Maybe they're not terrorists. 0.94

00:55:53.400 They look like illegal alien invaders. 0.99

00:55:55.500 They look like there are people up here to do work.

00:55:58.320 And I'm not questioning the hard—these people are hard workers.

00:56:00.600 But that's not the point.

00:56:03.700 Look, they got them crammed in.

00:56:05.180 And you see it down in Texas all the time.

00:56:06.680 They're flipping over these vans.

00:56:07.980 They got 16 people jammed in there.

00:56:09.960 That's not a way—that's not what this country's about.

00:56:12.020 That's indentured servitude.

00:56:14.980 That's essentially slavery. 0.56

00:56:18.140 And people hiring them don't care.

00:56:20.980 But that's what they've embraced.

00:56:22.460 This is what President Trump's getting out of the country.

00:56:24.120 Hell, he closed the border.

00:56:26.020 He's closed the border in 60 days.

00:56:27.440 This is what he's trying to get out of the country because the reflect—the muscle memory of deporting people. 0.99

00:56:33.560 And this is what they're trying to slow us down in court to make it so difficult to get this scumbag out, 0.96

00:56:38.380 which is a no-brainer, that you're just going to roll over and say, I can't do any more. 0.98

00:56:41.940 You can't get the 10 million illegal aliens. 0.99

00:56:44.160 You're going to say, Kasich, I'll play you that tomorrow.

00:56:46.980 Saying, oh, they're here and they're great and they're law-abiding.

00:56:51.060 Hey, I don't want to hear it.

00:56:53.220 They got to go.

00:56:55.060 Got to go.

00:56:56.040 Otherwise, you're not going to have a country.

00:56:58.100 Birchgold.com, end of the dollar empire.

00:57:00.860 They're all over the dollar.

00:57:02.200 The BRICS nation.

00:57:02.800 President Trump dropped a bomb.

00:57:04.020 He's going to meet with Putin.

00:57:05.100 And this Ukraine thing, they're telling Zelensky, look, brother, if you had a problem with Crimea,

00:57:11.300 you should have dealt with that years ago.

00:57:14.180 So this thing's up.

00:57:15.580 I think President Trump's going to meet with Putin for the Russian rapprochement.

00:57:20.380 The BRICS nations are sitting there going, and the CCP's leading the de-dollarization of the world's economy. 1.00

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Bannon's War Room - April 23, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 753： Lawfare Continues Against Bolsonaro

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