Stephen K.V. War Room is a weekly political podcast hosted by Stephen K. Vann. Hosted by , and . This week: Supreme Court strikes down part of the Obama administration's travel ban, a federal judge blocks President Trump from using the Alien and Enemy Act of 1798, and the DOJ files a motion to appeal.
00:01:34.420Because tonight on MSWC, CNN, and tomorrow, you're going to have your nose rubbed to this.
00:01:39.000A Trump appointee in the 5th District down in Texas, a Cornyn guy, just put out a 36-page opinion that he, a federal judge, permanently banned President Trump from using the Aliens Enemies Act of 1798 to basically get rid of, send back out of here the invaders, the criminal alien invaders, terrorist invaders.
00:02:02.100That he's made the determination using that from, that they've invaded the country and they've got to go.
00:02:09.760And now we've had not just the Supreme Court, not just Boesburg and a judge in Washington, D.C., but now somebody kind of at the scene of the crime ready to do that.
00:02:21.860They were harping on, you've got to do it from South Texas, you've got to do it from the air base.
00:02:24.700Well, they've done it, and now they've done it at White House.
00:02:27.040We've had the Viceroy Mike Davis here, they're already turning and burning at the White House about what's going to happen here.
00:02:34.460And I continue to say, to delay is to deny, and what they're doing now, they're going to extract from this audience so much pain in trying to get out this first wave of a couple hundred thousand of these criminals.
00:03:03.020You can see right now how hard they're going to fight.
00:03:05.660They're doing this as a delaying tactic.
00:03:07.560They want to make this so painful for the White House.
00:03:10.180They want to make it so painful for Homan and for Kristi Noem and the team over at DHS that, you know,
00:03:18.440and I think right now my target of going to the Supreme Court on this thing and fully arguing is sometime in mid-June, which is a little over 30 days away.
00:03:27.580And that's the 10th anniversary of President Trump coming down the escalators 15 June.
00:03:32.520So it's going to be we're in for a fight now.
00:03:37.580People just got to got to hunker down.
00:03:40.940This is why you're the tip of the spear.
00:03:42.800The work that's been accomplished just this week alone by this audience has been extraordinary.
00:03:46.620Mike Davis added a bunch more on top of you.
00:03:48.720Ed Martin, who's really the U.S. attorney of all these years.
00:03:51.960And they've got some great U.S. attorneys.
00:03:53.380They just fired one a day up in Maine.
00:03:55.140They've got some great U.S. attorneys.
00:03:57.580But Ed Martin's kind of, you know, he's got a huge, he's the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, and that is a massive job.
00:04:05.900It was Matthew Graves that put all those, put the 1,000 J6ers in prison.
00:04:10.880Or there were other jurisdictions, too, but they were the driving force of it.
00:04:15.760972 Patriot, make sure he supports Patriot Mobile.
00:04:59.380And I said this is why D.C. Drano came on the show about, and I'm just telling you, just saying.
00:05:05.680We are going down a path where the courts are going to force President Trump as commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the United States to do exactly what President Lincoln had to do, and that was to suspend habeas corpus.
00:05:59.520Well, we're in the constitutional crisis.
00:06:01.020But I mean the culmination of that, at least this round, is coming, and it's coming quickly.
00:06:04.540The entire situation with the stopping the kinetic part of the Third World War, everywhere from Ukraine all the way through that arc of instability through Israel, Gaza, Persia, the Arabian Peninsula, Red Sea, North Arabian Sea, all of it.
00:06:25.660Marco Rubio historically taking on the same mantle that has not been worn since Henry Kissinger in the Ford administration, not Nixon.
00:06:34.300Nixon would never allow Kissinger to be both.
00:06:37.060President Ford did, both Secretary of State and National Security Advisor.
00:06:42.280And this is all about the negotiations and particularly what's happening in Persia and a lot of people around President Trump, myself included, saying this option of military interaction.
00:06:55.660That you really got to go think through, you got to go up the escalatory ladder on economic warfare.
00:08:27.340I've asked Michael Pack to join us about VOA and about the, you know, reprogramming that, taking it down.
00:08:32.920But also, Michael is very familiar with his whole issues of National Security Advisor, director of some of the best documentary films we've ever had,
00:08:41.440including my favorite that I worked on with him as one of the executive producers.
00:08:47.660Let's go ahead and play the clip, and I'm bringing in the Michael Pack.
00:08:52.020This was some of the most compartmented, complex urban terrain that I have ever seen.
00:09:07.540The further south we advance, the more determined the resistance, fanatical resistance.
00:09:16.900You're just on pure adrenaline, waiting for that house.
00:09:20.220You know, every house is a potential death trap.
00:09:25.240Despite all the technology that we had, it came down to men going to the sound of the guns in that cauldron where the metal meets the meat.
00:10:14.580They felt it was too pro military, even though it's really not.
00:10:18.220It's a very fair look at the battle told from the point of view of the people who fought it as if it were a battle like Gettysburg or Iwo Jima.
00:10:25.600You know, something that is in American history that we need to understand.
00:10:29.120But now, 17 years later, I'm happy to announce that they're actually going to broadcast it, PBS will, in prime time, the day before Veterans Day this year, Monday, November 10th.
00:10:40.600I hope all your listeners and viewers watch.
00:10:44.820Well, we've got to do some sort of screening before they get everybody together.
00:10:51.840So, Pac, I want you to talk about how the administrative state works.
00:10:56.240Michael is one of the very self-effacing and quite humble, but one of our great filmmakers.
00:11:01.100You were actually selected by President Bush, 43, to basically do what regarding – in fact, this film came up when you said it was financed by Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
00:11:32.920And what was the response of the liberal media, sir?
00:11:36.840Well, in public broadcasting, I was senior vice president of television programming, and our job was to try to bring in alternative voices, which we tried to do with American Crossroads and other things.
00:11:50.300And at that time, public broadcasting brought in the Wall Street Journal editorial report and the Tucker Carlson show.
00:11:57.400It would be a different public broadcasting if those shows were still on the air.
00:12:01.080But at that – it was too much for the people in public broadcasting.
00:12:05.460They got rid of the chairman, Ken Tomlinson, and myself, and we were out.
00:12:11.800And then, as you know, I was brought back by President –
00:12:14.140Okay, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:12:16.560Don't get ahead of the wagon train here.
00:15:20.600I got very drawn to the story when I said this renowned conservative TV producer, filmmaker, director gets turfed out when we control the city.
00:15:30.960Because I didn't really know anything about politics then.
00:15:33.060But I start to learn the concept of controlled opposition.
00:15:36.580I said this whole Republican thing is kind of phony because they don't fight for anything.
00:15:40.520This guy, Pac, is not sitting there saying, I want to bring in right-wing, you know, Hitler youth type of – it's just kind of moderate.
00:15:47.600You know, it's kind of middle-of-the-road stuff just because PBS and NPR are so left-wing, up in your grill every day.
00:17:03.980It literally was there to destroy you as a person, to destroy – you were a mini version of what they did to President Trump later, to destroy your reputation, to smear you, to make it so – and people around you, the good people, everybody was going to be destroyed.
00:17:17.960These people are vicious, and they're freaking evil.
00:17:21.980They will come after people, and you see it right there.
00:17:24.460And here's why Michael Pac is one of the people I admire most in the Imperial Capitol.
00:17:54.240I mean a lot of it, even before that, early on, was what I would call the administrative state, the Office of Government Ethics.
00:18:00.240You know, career people were blocking me because career people, you know, share the views of Senator Menendez, really, essentially, and the left more generally, actually.
00:18:10.640So, yeah, I was in there for eight months, and it was an attack from day one.
00:18:14.940I mean, I had been in international broadcasting under the first President Bush, George H.W. Bush, and they tried to block what I did, but it was warfare in the first Trump administration.
00:18:25.800As you said, there were endless articles in The Washington Post and NPR especially, but also The New York Times and Politico saying, you know, I fired the five political appointees, the heads of the network, which I was empowered to do by law, and they called it a massacre.
00:18:56.760So, this was, by the time I got in there in June, you know, we're already into the presidential election, and the Voice of America Urdu service ran what was essentially a Biden ad.
00:19:07.660It was a Biden ad with very little context.
00:19:15.160It was an appeal by Biden and his supporters for Muslims to vote for him.
00:19:19.760With no context whatsoever, it violated the Voice of America charter, and I called that to their attention.
00:19:28.020They couldn't deny that it violated the charter, and eventually they took it down.
00:19:31.960But this wasn't the first time it happened.
00:19:35.060You know, in the 2016 election, they had run an ad featuring Robert De Niro calling Trump a pig and a dog.
00:19:42.720So, this is the second time, so I decided I would try to not just take it down but figure out why it happened and try to make sure it didn't happen again.
00:19:52.240And I started an investigation to look into why and who was responsible and what disciplinary actions should be taken.
00:19:59.780It was an investigation largely learned by career people at USAGM, U.S. Agency for Global Media, and they all sued.
00:20:11.400They claimed I was violating their First Amendment rights, and a judge in the district, a federal judge in the district, agreed with them.
00:21:03.980Well, before I get there, I want to repeat this because you're a decent guy, but you've been through the wars in this thing now for 20-some years.
00:21:11.820First with Bush and now with the Trump thing.
00:21:15.760And you see, again, what—want me through that again.
00:21:18.580Walk me through exactly what you're saying, that they can't be reformed.
00:21:22.440Well, I think that, you know, there are really three related problems.
00:21:28.580I mean, first of all, there are 4,000 people in this agency.
00:21:31.720I kind of think a lot of the beat reporters, the people that are out there, especially those risking their lives in totalitarian regimes, are heroic and decent reporters.
00:21:40.940But the top 2,000, all the middle and senior managers, are hopelessly biased.
00:21:47.320I mean, they don't—they aren't only voted for Democrats.
00:24:44.580I think it's an important thing to do.
00:24:46.840My recommendation would be that they try to think about it in context of soft power generally and come up with a new plan and actually a new structure.
00:24:55.220I think they should keep the brands Voice of America and Radio for Europe, but they need to think of a new structure, a completely different structure.
00:25:35.740But I think it's I've more encouraged people to go to our website and, you know, we've done over 15 films for PBS, including another one with you on Admiral Rickover.
00:25:48.400And I think they're all worth seeing and important to see.
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00:33:07.980They say the governor is set to sign it.
00:33:10.200And it is one of the most egregious bills against parental rights that we've ever seen in the country.
00:33:15.900Well, I want to walk through the details, but I've got to ask a question because I was out there to the Colorado GOP about a month ago.
00:33:26.320I am shocked, and for a state that is, I consider it a MAGA state, except for these pockets like Denver and around Denver and the suburbs and Boulder and the University of Colorado, this is MAGA country.
00:33:40.820This thing is, like you told people, this is so radical.
00:33:44.980And Polis is running for president as the most radical of all.
00:33:49.700This guy is doubling and tripling down.
00:33:52.100The bill, it does a number of things that are shocking in its original form.
00:33:58.700They did strip it last night of a section of the bill that actually awarded custody to the parent that affirmed the gender.
00:34:06.880And so the parent that didn't affirm the gender would lose custody.
00:34:09.820And last night, the numbers are between 700 and 800 people signed up to speak against this bill last night.
00:34:19.600The Senate GOP has said that, or the Senate Republicans have said that that's the most in the history of the Colorado Senate ever to sign up.
00:34:29.140One of those that spoke last night was an 11-year-old child that the mother brought in to speak out against her father, who will not affirm her gender.
00:34:37.260And if you listen to some of the testimonies last night.
00:34:48.840Her mother brought her in to speak out against her father because her father will not affirm her gender identity because she has changed her gender.
00:34:59.300Remember, this bill will award custody to the parent that affirms her new gender.
00:35:04.640And the father doesn't agree with the gender.
00:35:08.400And so they're saying that the father is hateful and that he is hurting her and that it's basically—not basically, it actually would categorize it as child abuse.
00:35:22.300When I hear somebody like Tiffany Justice or you tell me that a bill is the most radical anti-parental rights in the country, that hits me because you've seen it all.
00:35:33.340And over the last four years, five years, you guys have worked it all.
00:35:36.740What makes this bill specifically the worst you've ever seen?
00:35:40.120I think that's the worst part of it, but there's so much more in it.
00:35:46.920You know, I've had to explain that to a few people of what that is.
00:35:50.180Deadnaming is if you are born a boy and you change your name to a girl or you change your gender identity to a girl and someone calls you your boy name, you have deadnamed them because to them, their birth name is dead.
00:36:03.200It makes deadnaming and misgendering illegal.
00:36:06.600It categorizes it as a civil rights violation.
00:36:10.600It takes this gender identity craze to a whole new level by bringing in teeth into the bill that will harm families, divide families.
00:36:20.140You saw last night it's dividing children from parents.
00:36:23.080And it's just—it's the most extreme radicals that are out supporting it.
00:36:26.660I think it was Senator Winters said last night during the hearings that this bill is like her crash couch,
00:36:32.960where she allows children that are running away from home to change their gender to crash on her couch.
00:36:39.720I can't even believe these things are being said in a public forum, that people are cheering these things, that they're voting for them.
00:36:46.620I mean, it passed on party lines last night.
00:43:45.000So, no, you know, a new president in office and a whole new administration and a few laws and executive orders is not going to stop what they believe deep in their core.
00:44:23.920We're going to kick it off with Jennifer Saye, opening it up, and Deborah Flora.
00:44:27.660But we've got two state representatives from the House, Brandi Bradley, who happens to also be a chapter chair in Moms for Liberty, and Representative Jarvis Caldwell will be there.
00:44:43.540But most importantly, we have three parents telling their stories of what they've been dealing with, with their children, with gender identity, with the state getting involved.
00:44:52.640And I think those are going to be powerful.
00:44:54.440And then just like every one of our town halls, the last 30 to 40 minutes, we open it up to the public.
00:44:59.100Everyone's been invited to this town hall.
00:45:01.720You do have to register and show your ID because, obviously, we get some bad actors sometimes, and we need to know who they are in case they make bad decisions, poor decisions, and have to be removed.
00:47:04.720And the end of the dollar empire, the Rio Reset.
00:47:08.020As we go through every day, we're going to give an update of what to expect.
00:47:12.320And, of course, on Monday, we'll have a very, very, very special guest to talk about how the weaponization of the dollar changed the world order.
00:47:35.780I'll tell you, everybody, you know, four years ago or whatever it was in the spring of 2020 when I spoke at the Rose Garden and said God had given us grace for such a time as this.
00:47:45.140And we turned our nation and turned its back on God.
00:47:48.500And as you all know, when I did that speech and went around the world and I was going, you can't mix God and government.
00:49:15.960I mean, it's just disgusting. But it was it was a very good day.
00:49:20.460I'm still in D.C., everybody. And I tell you, I wouldn't have time to do all this, everybody.
00:49:26.180If if I didn't have the war room posse and you guys have in my pillows back, my pillow has been the most attacked company in the history of the world.
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