Bannon's War Room - May 06, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 762： What’s At Stake With Ed Martin’s Confirmation, The Mayoral Race That’s Awakening A Dormant Corner Of The Left

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Kurt Mills
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Donald Trump Ed Martin Tom Tillis Mike Howell Houthis Steve Bing Hudson Crozier Schumer Biden Matthew Graves Vladimir Putin Andrew Cuomo Sacred Human John Bolton Sam Faddis Till Natalie G. Winters Merrick Garland Kevin Roberts Zoran Mamdani and 30 more
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In this episode of The War Room, host Stephen K. K. B. Bannon is joined by Kurt M. Mills and Mike E. Howell of Oversight to discuss the latest in the Yemen conflict, Iran, and the Democratic Socialists of America.

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00:00:00.000 They are not, or they've been announced to us at least, that they don't want to fight
00:00:18.420 anymore.
00:00:19.420 They just don't want to fight.
00:00:21.360 And we will honor that.
00:00:24.000 And we will stop the bombings.
00:00:28.720 And they have capitulated.
00:00:33.020 But more importantly, we will take their word.
00:00:36.800 They say they will not be blowing up ships anymore.
00:00:39.820 And that's the purpose of what we were doing.
00:00:42.320 So that's just news.
00:00:43.340 We just found out about that.
00:00:45.640 So I think that's very, very positive.
00:00:48.620 They were knocking out a lot of ships, going, as you know, sailing beautifully down the
00:00:54.560 various seas.
00:00:56.660 It wasn't just a canal.
00:00:58.460 It was a lot of other places.
00:01:01.160 And I will accept their word.
00:01:03.260 And we are going to stop the bombing of the Houthis, effective immediately.
00:01:09.320 And Marco, you'll let everybody know that.
00:01:11.660 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:01:19.280 Pray for our enemies.
00:01:21.260 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:01:24.500 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:01:28.760 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:01:30.640 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:32.080 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that.
00:01:33.860 But you're not going to stop it.
00:01:34.780 It's going to happen.
00:01:35.840 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:01:39.460 Mega Media.
00:01:40.380 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:01:46.260 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:01:50.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:56.220 War Room.
00:01:57.240 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:02:05.740 Welcome to The War Room.
00:02:07.180 It's still Natalie Winters holding the fort down here.
00:02:10.120 Like I said, in The War Room, May 6th in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:02:14.700 It's not Stephen K. Bannon, but we have an extremely packed show.
00:02:17.940 We're going to cover all the verticals.
00:02:19.920 That implies that they're separate.
00:02:21.160 We know they're all interlinked because it's the same enemy.
00:02:24.560 You know, we're not allowed to say, what is it, the enemy within?
00:02:27.920 Well, I think the enemy within has been fully exposed, particularly on this Ed Martin battle.
00:02:33.780 And I think with what's been going on over at the Pentagon, all things Iran.
00:02:38.760 We will start there.
00:02:39.720 Then we're going to have Mike Howell from Oversight come on, give us the latest with Ed Martin.
00:02:44.180 We've got an interesting story on the sort of evolution or maybe devolution of the DSA,
00:02:49.740 the Democratic Socialists for America.
00:02:53.080 And they're maybe upstart Canada up in New York.
00:02:56.720 But until we get to all that, the domestic stuff, we're going to start with what's going on in Yemen.
00:03:01.520 I'm honored to be joined by Kurt Mills, one of the few people who I think I can describe as a foreign policy expert
00:03:07.360 who's actually deserving of the term.
00:03:09.620 Every time I see that Chiron, it's like Pavlov's dog. 1.00
00:03:12.160 I'm like, OK, what country is this person going to call that we need to start bombing?
00:03:15.860 I guess Iran is now maybe a strong contender. 0.87
00:03:19.700 But Kurt, I'd love to sort of get your thoughts on the development of what President Trump was just talking about in the cold open,
00:03:25.080 that we've apparently stopped bombing the Houthis.
00:03:27.500 They said they didn't want to continue their campaign.
00:03:30.340 Your thoughts, and then we'll get into more broadly the Iran conflict.
00:03:34.180 Yeah, sure.
00:03:34.600 So, I mean, more surprises, more out of the deal.
00:03:37.240 I think all things considered, since the bombing campaign started in mid-March,
00:03:42.000 this was the absolute best-case scenario of what could have occurred.
00:03:46.200 Trump accepted the Houthi offer that was extended, you know, sort of informally last month.
00:03:51.320 And it looks like ahead of Trump's trip to the Gulf next week.
00:03:55.640 You know, it's safe for the president, you know, all things considered, a dangerous part of the world to travel to.
00:04:00.920 And, you know, this is a resumption of the sort of work that was going on in the transition
00:04:06.980 when Special Envoy Wyckoff negotiated a ceasefire between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
00:04:13.600 And, you know, hopefully it all holds.
00:04:18.040 And just broaden this out.
00:04:19.860 Obviously, there's been a lot of back and forth, perhaps leading to firings and leak investigations
00:04:25.660 and all that jazz over at the Pentagon.
00:04:27.960 That's at least been sort of one of the potential explanations.
00:04:31.460 But where you think we stand on, maybe the best way to do it,
00:04:35.580 the sort of factions that you think you've seen emerge,
00:04:37.900 particularly in the, you know, never-ending quest to start a war with Iran,
00:04:42.440 where we sort of stand in that horse race right now?
00:04:46.540 Yeah, I mean, it's interesting that you said the factions are not necessarily the factions within the administration.
00:04:50.660 I mean, this platform is as important as almost any government cabinet or bureau at this point.
00:04:56.960 So, you know, it's a huge vortex for President Trump's attention.
00:05:01.660 But, you know, the effective battle lines are this.
00:05:05.020 Those who want to take the wars that were inherited from President Biden
00:05:09.620 and resolve them this year in Trump's, you know, first 360 days.
00:05:14.300 And those who want to see expansion of the theaters, either whether it be in Ukraine or the Middle East.
00:05:20.240 The Middle East one seems like its front burner right now.
00:05:23.280 We could have an Iran deal as soon as this month.
00:05:25.600 They're already into technical negotiations.
00:05:28.160 So the negotiations with the Iranians are further along than they have been at any time
00:05:34.280 since the secession of the JCPOA on the American side in 2018.
00:05:39.280 They're further along than they ever were under Biden.
00:05:42.160 And so, I mean, the prospect of a Trump-Iran deal is very live,
00:05:46.600 one that would take the nuclear option for the Iranians off the table for the foreseeable future
00:05:51.840 and, you know, hopefully result in peace in the Middle East.
00:05:56.020 There are those sort of hawkish Bush-wing Republicans, you know, the sort of Nickley-Haley types,
00:06:02.340 the Pompeo types, the Wall Street Journal types who want to see a new offensive.
00:06:06.200 You know, this is very related to Yemen.
00:06:09.680 They argue that the Houthis are a direct proxy of Iran.
00:06:12.380 It's far more complicated than that.
00:06:14.480 But regardless, it is increasingly set up as a binary.
00:06:18.780 Does Trump, Mr. Trump, does President Trump want a new war in the Middle East?
00:06:23.360 Or does he want to be a nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize?
00:06:26.240 I think the jibe we kind of always hear from our audience is, you know,
00:06:31.120 oh, well, with whatever's going on in Ukraine or whatever is maybe potentially, you know,
00:06:37.680 calming down a bit in the Middle East that they're now looking for their sort of new forever war, 0.94
00:06:42.440 do you think that that's a valid paradigm to evaluate what's going on in Iran through?
00:06:47.800 Or is this sort of, I mean, I would probably think it's a longer drawn-out thing.
00:06:51.380 There's been more effort and investments made to make this into a potential forever war type conflict.
00:06:57.660 John Bolton just, you know, comes to mind naturally.
00:07:00.340 But your thoughts on that sort of critique?
00:07:03.820 Yeah, I mean, look, say what you will for former National Security Advisor Bolton, Ambassador Bolton.
00:07:08.620 He's very honest.
00:07:09.740 And that's what a maximal sort of neocon hawk Republican worldview looks like.
00:07:15.740 It looks like the U.S. overextended into every theater forever and ever.
00:07:20.880 And, you know, he doesn't really make any apologies for that.
00:07:23.440 There's not much nuance there.
00:07:25.260 I think, you know, yes, Iran and Ukraine are separate theaters.
00:07:30.180 But the hawks so often sort of link them.
00:07:33.180 You know, they'll say, oh, look, you know, the Ukrainians or the Russians are using Iranian shothead drones.
00:07:39.020 That's, you know, how it's all one fight.
00:07:40.840 The world is breaking up into access of autocracies versus, you know, the Western democracies.
00:07:46.960 This sort of inevitable, unavoidable fight is very redolent, frankly, of the World War I or the pre-World War I environment where these, you know, endless series of alliances tripped us into a huge world war.
00:08:03.220 And that's why I think these sort of alliances, unquestioned, unambiguous and lockstep, even with some of our closest partners, are should be evaluated and are pretty dangerous.
00:08:17.000 I see it happen a ton with China, whereby these neocons sort of co-opt the PRC issue.
00:08:24.160 And, you know, I think accurately estimate the, you know, threat that it is existentially, geopolitically.
00:08:30.600 But then they use that not really to actually take on the CCP, but just to justify the newly minted trillion dollar defense budget.
00:08:39.100 And in some ways, I think you see the bolstering of a lot of these enemies, you know, to justify that continued spending at a, you know, exponentially, if not logarithmically increasing rate.
00:08:48.800 I'd love to get your thoughts on the, I believe I'm correct, the, you know, trillion dollar defense budget, the sort of reorientation, putting more measures and just preparation into the sort of anti-China front.
00:09:02.400 Do you find meaning in that?
00:09:04.300 Or do you think that it's, you know, regrettably just sort of, you know, Washington politics as usual, forget who the president is, no matter what, you're going to see defense spending balloon?
00:09:13.040 Yeah, I mean, look, the budget put forward by OMB, you know, last week was, you know, on the second derivative positive, but it was still an increase.
00:09:27.120 And yet the sort of hawks on the Hill, very much anchored around the Senate Armed Services Chairman, Roger Wicker, complained that it wasn't enough.
00:09:35.780 And so I think, you know, it shows that, I think oftentimes there's this sort of perspective, like, well, we should just, you know, it's a big tent, we should try to balance all these factions, et cetera, et cetera.
00:09:45.560 But the reality, I think, is that the neoconservatives and the hawks, it's never enough.
00:09:49.840 I mean, even if the U.S. were to do a regime change war in Iran, the next thing that would be asked would be to do a regime change war in Turkey.
00:09:58.540 Same thing with, you know, the Pentagon budget.
00:10:00.780 If you give them $200 billion more, they'll ask for $500 billion more.
00:10:05.440 I just view it as a far more of a tradeoff.
00:10:08.260 As to the China question rather directly, I think it's always very curious that those who would want to hike the Pentagon budget most prodigiously are often the ones who have long records of wanting to trade with the Chinese openly, right?
00:10:22.800 So, I mean, how rational is this?
00:10:24.820 We're talking about increasing the Pentagon budget for this allegedly existential threat that we need to, you know, sink more and more resources into while the country's industrial capacity sort of withers away.
00:10:34.600 The average American thinks the country is going in the wrong direction.
00:10:37.740 And on the other hand, you know, you can't have any question about the tariff regime or lack thereof on the PRC.
00:10:43.260 I think it's just an entirely failed sort of globalist cast of mind that has been the default architecture of decision makers in Washington since at least the 80s.
00:10:55.720 Kurt Mills, always an honor to have you on.
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00:11:24.200 Kurt Mills, thank you as always for joining us.
00:11:30.760 And I believe we are joined now by Mike Howell.
00:11:34.160 Mike, I know you're always a feisty guest.
00:11:37.500 We're honored to always have you here in the war room.
00:11:38.900 But I want to trigger you a little bit.
00:11:40.900 So, Denver, we're going to roll the extended interview with war room's, I guess, target, metaphorically, of the moment, Tom Tillis.
00:11:50.860 So, Denver, let's roll it.
00:11:52.820 He is, I don't believe he's being advanced to the markup.
00:11:56.260 And I met with Mr. Martin.
00:11:58.440 He seems like a good man.
00:11:59.840 And most of my concerns related to January 6th.
00:12:04.400 And he built a compelling case on some of the 15, 12 prosecutions that were probably key to the moment, bad decisions.
00:12:13.460 But where we probably have a difference is I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been in prison for some period of time.
00:12:21.000 Whether it's 30 days or three years is debatable.
00:12:22.920 But I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the building on January the 6th.
00:12:28.100 And that's probably where most of the friction was.
00:12:29.980 I see.
00:12:30.380 So, he disagreed with you on that?
00:12:31.720 Well, no, I have to say that Mr. Martin did a good job of explaining how there were people that probably got caught up in it. 0.96
00:12:40.200 But they made the stupid decision to come through a building that had been breached and that the police officers and others were saying stay away. 0.89
00:12:47.980 So, the difference wasn't that they should be charged in my estimation. 1.00
00:12:51.940 It's by how much.
00:12:53.040 That's an argument I'm willing to have.
00:12:54.720 But we have to be very, very clear that what happened on January the 6th was wrong.
00:12:59.600 It wasn't, it was not prompted or created by other people to put those people in trouble. 0.98
00:13:07.320 They made a stupid decision and they disgraced the United States by absolutely destroying the Capitol. 1.00
00:13:13.920 And I can't have any patience for them. 1.00
00:13:15.440 It sounds like your concerns were not appreciated.
00:13:17.300 But let me be very clear, though.
00:13:19.080 Mr. Martin did a good job of explaining the one area that I think he's probably right.
00:13:24.260 That there were some people that were over-prosecuted.
00:13:26.780 But there were some, 200 or 300 of them, that should have never gotten a pardon.
00:13:34.920 And he agreed with that.
00:13:36.980 But the disagreement there had more to do.
00:13:38.920 If Mr. Martin were being put forth as a U.S. attorney for any district except the district where January 6th happened, the protest happened,
00:13:47.480 I'd probably support him, but not in this district.
00:13:50.060 When you said he's not being advanced to the markup, was he operating under that understanding that he's not being advanced through to a markup?
00:13:55.780 I think Mr. Martin, I'm sure they're looking through it.
00:13:58.520 I mean, be clear, some of the deadline has to do with the length of time he can operate his acting.
00:14:03.660 And the administration can work through that if they want to have more time and potentially work him through.
00:14:09.880 But at this point, I've indicated to the White House I wouldn't support his nomination.
00:14:13.140 Has Trump called you?
00:14:14.880 Mr. President, the president and I talk all the time.
00:14:17.060 Now, Mike Howell, I've had my chance to tee off on this guy in the 5 p.m.
00:14:23.420 I love this man who can find, you know, more grace and nuance for the illegal aliens that he wants amnesty for, 0.94
00:14:29.760 or Zelensky, who he thinks we need to be thanking, despite, I mean, canceling elections, I think, is a little worse than, what, debating three days versus three years.
00:14:38.820 Apparently, he can't find that same, shall we say, consideration for Ed Martin.
00:14:43.020 That's how you know this guy is, I was going to say a rhino, but maybe just political hack bought and paid for by donors who don't want Ed Martin substantially and significantly investigating the crimes that have gone on in D.C.
00:14:55.860 Maybe that's a better way to put it, but I will stop there.
00:14:59.140 I will let you sort of walk our audience through what you guys have been doing over at your, the new spinoff of Heritage Oversight Project,
00:15:07.500 but your thoughts on this sort of whole Ed Martin debacle, which I don't know about you.
00:15:11.100 I'm kind of getting PTSD and deja vu from all these just horrific, feckless Republicans, not even doing nothing, but actively sabotaging President Trump's agenda.
00:15:21.500 Yeah, that's ultimately what this is about.
00:15:24.960 It's whether Trump can make his hiring decisions or not.
00:15:28.740 And then the outcome of that is if the Senate effectively gets turned over to Durbin, Schiff and Schumer with the assist from Senator Tillis or others,
00:15:37.020 it's about ending the forward progress of the Senate and executing President Trump's mandate.
00:15:42.220 So this is really not just about U.S. Attorney Martin.
00:15:46.040 It's about President Trump.
00:15:47.480 And if you take a look and listen to Tillis' comments, you have to wonder, why don't they apply to President Trump or Cash or Bondi or anyone else in the cabinet?
00:15:58.320 Why pick Ed Martin over January 6th at this moment?
00:16:02.680 And so it's really a criticism of President Trump.
00:16:06.260 And that's what I see Senator Tillis saying.
00:16:08.840 Lucky for him, he's not voting for January 6th.
00:16:12.260 He's voting for Trump's U.S. Attorney.
00:16:14.140 And so hopefully he can put his concerns aside because U.S. A. Martin's record on these issues as U.S. Attorney is terrific.
00:16:23.720 No one's gone harder at people who go after cops than U.S. A. Martin.
00:16:27.660 No one's gone harder for law and order in Washington, D.C. than Martin.
00:16:32.400 And so it really doesn't make sense.
00:16:34.260 And I'm hoping by Senator Tillis laying out that reasoning,
00:16:37.160 he eventually can be reasoned with because this is not a vote to condone whatever his view on January 6th is.
00:16:44.240 It's a vote of whether he supports President Trump's decision to put his people in the spots where he thinks they can serve the country best.
00:16:51.900 And I don't know what's going on with Senator Tillis and President Trump,
00:16:55.440 but this is a highly unfortunate fight for the senator to pick at a really critical time.
00:17:01.000 And I think we're all hoping that he can get to yes on this critical post.
00:17:06.180 And walk us through maybe the other, shall we say, sleeper cells of potential opposition.
00:17:11.620 We know people like Norm Eisen and Mark Elias have come out in very staunch opposition to Ed Martin.
00:17:17.440 I'd ask Tom Tillis why he finds himself on the same side of any issue as people who have declared war open season on this wonderful republic.
00:17:25.580 But of the 12 members of the Judiciary Committee, which I believe we need unanimous support from to actually not have, you know, Judge Bozberg,
00:17:35.780 like I said, the only man who, based off of physiognomy, probably looks more concerning than Senator Tillis
00:17:42.100 and apparently likes illegal alien criminals to stay in this country.
00:17:46.600 But do you think that there could be any other potential defectors among the existing Republicans,
00:17:52.000 those that have not explicitly come out and supported him?
00:17:56.300 No, no, I don't.
00:17:57.320 I think there's actually a groundswell of support for Martin right now.
00:18:00.840 I call it Martin mania.
00:18:02.340 I have not seen this much enthusiasm for a U.S. attorney ever.
00:18:07.120 It's the entire base is behind him.
00:18:09.420 All of the groups are lining up.
00:18:11.300 Senators are standing up.
00:18:12.680 Senator Rand Paul sent a letter to all of his colleagues today.
00:18:15.680 Senator Lee and Tuberville have been really out there.
00:18:17.980 And there's many more I'm not naming.
00:18:19.500 And so what's really happening here is starting, you know, a month or so ago, Schumer, Durbin and Schiff started shopping oppo around, trying to peel people off.
00:18:29.500 And they basically had a bunch of smears.
00:18:32.480 They accused Martin of being anti-Semitic.
00:18:34.580 That was so bogus.
00:18:36.080 It actually ended up getting him a ton of Jewish support from main leaders and groups coming out.
00:18:40.940 They accused him of not having any experience or the support.
00:18:44.260 And then what happened was all the law enforcement groups came out to support Martin.
00:18:47.940 And then all the state attorneys generals came out to support him.
00:18:51.840 So he's got support far, wide and deep.
00:18:55.260 But this is all reaction to the oppo shot by Schumer and co.
00:18:58.640 And you can't let it work because if it works in the unprecedented event of Trump losing his guy were to pass, you might as well hand over control of the Senate to the Democrats.
00:19:09.120 And you don't want to do that before reconciliation or any of the other major items.
00:19:13.680 We're barely over 100 days in.
00:19:15.800 We have all, you know, the presidency, the House and the Senate.
00:19:18.520 Let's not give it over to Schumer.
00:19:21.300 And if you humor me for a second, I got a little black book with some notes in it.
00:19:25.160 Well, I think we can get to yes.
00:19:26.240 Here are the people that Senator Till's voted for in the Biden administration.
00:19:29.660 Anthony Blinken, Yellen, Vilsack, Raimondo, Granholm, Cardona, McDonough, Monaco, Merrick Garland, Matthew Graves.
00:19:39.540 If you're telling me those people can pass muster for Senator Till's, I think he can get to yes if his concerns are reasoned with.
00:19:46.820 And I think they are easily dispensed of.
00:19:49.960 Voting for Ed Martin will not change a thing about January 6th.
00:19:52.940 It is over.
00:19:53.680 We are moving on.
00:19:54.420 President Trump has taken a position to pick a fight on that issue right now is to pick a fight with President Trump at a critical time.
00:20:00.600 And I don't think anybody, when they sit down and their temper is cool, wants to take out Trump's favorite U.S. attorney.
00:20:07.960 It would be unprecedented.
00:20:08.840 It would be a disaster.
00:20:09.940 And the sequence of events that follows don't work out well for anyone.
00:20:14.600 Well, and also, I mean, I'm sorry, too.
00:20:16.740 We'll take what he said at face value.
00:20:18.420 I mean, even say what Senator Till has said about, oh, his little, you know, checkered record when it comes to some January 6th defendants.
00:20:28.140 Again, you know, our position in the war room, we call it the Fed's direction.
00:20:31.340 We think people use the term January 6th or too woke.
00:20:34.000 But even granting him that.
00:20:35.540 I don't know about you, but last time I looked around the state of this country, we need people who are fighters.
00:20:41.680 And even if you might have some ideological differences with him on January 6th, Senator Tillis, I would much rather have someone who's willing to throw down and actually understands what accountability means as opposed to what some weak Fedsoc type who has no lived reality or lived experience and actually bringing up about accountability outside of the confines of, you know, having worked on the Hill for several decades, having accomplished virtually nothing.
00:21:08.720 So it's just a fundamental mismatch to, I think, of understanding the state of the country, the state of the battle, the war that we are in.
00:21:18.060 And, I mean, I guess it's people like Senator Tillis who got us here in the first place.
00:21:22.220 It's no wonder why we have to have an AG Ken Paxton on the show earlier today, not just also supporting Ed Martin, but talking about how wonderful policies that Senator Tillis has allowed to manifest and metastasize in this country,
00:21:33.940 relating to the Chinese Communist Party overtaking data, farmland, and, I guess, politicians, too.
00:21:39.380 Maybe we'll need to investigate Senator Tillis on that front.
00:21:43.340 Mike, how will you always call it how it is?
00:21:46.380 And I know last time we were on, we were talking, I believe, about the deportations, where we stand there.
00:21:51.380 You mentioned how Judge Bozberg would be the man that would choose Ed Martin's replacement should Senator Tillis want to have,
00:21:58.820 maybe we'll call it his John McCain moment on this vote.
00:22:03.860 Where do you think we stand now on the deportation stuff?
00:22:08.620 Are you a fan of the $1,000 stipend proposal?
00:22:13.460 Yeah, so real quick, just on January 6th, because I got it, you know, I'm passionate about this.
00:22:19.140 People need to understand that is the fulcrum point by which the left weaponized the entire law enforcement apparatus.
00:22:24.660 They use January 6th as the justification to go after everything ranging from Catholics, you know, praying at Mass to school board parents.
00:22:32.720 That is where the rot stems from.
00:22:34.300 It provided them just like a war on terror.
00:22:36.000 That was their one event where they said, we can do anything we want after this in the name of January 6th.
00:22:40.800 It led to the January 6th committee, et cetera.
00:22:43.140 It was that abuse and that original sin of the weaponization after it,
00:22:47.280 why people receive pardons and the much-needed correction to the system.
00:22:50.820 And so I think there's a lot of revisionist history happening by people taking these stands now and trying to relitigate the event that day.
00:22:59.040 And it's highly unfortunate, particularly when it's going to threaten what everyone just voted for.
00:23:03.900 On mass deportations, I want commas.
00:23:07.240 You know, I want numbers in the eight digits.
00:23:09.300 That's what we were promised.
00:23:10.360 Eisenhower levels, which were 1.3 million, you know, however long ago when there was only a few million illegal aliens in the country.
00:23:16.620 That means we need to be in the millions per year.
00:23:20.320 And to that end, we're looking at a reconciliation bill which funds about up to a million removals a year.
00:23:25.800 So that alone won't get us there.
00:23:27.540 And so you've got to think, how do we add up, you know, the other millions that we need?
00:23:30.960 And that means every tool needs to be on the table to get people out.
00:23:34.900 I think there's a lot more that can be done.
00:23:37.220 I think we need to revisit illegal aliens being in public schools. 1.00
00:23:40.400 I think it's outrageous that we're paying to, you know, crowd our classrooms and make our children speak, you know, two languages in the school.
00:23:48.940 It reminds me of when I went to elementary school.
00:23:50.680 We had so much mass immigration, they just rebranded it as Spanish immersion and pretended it was a good thing that everyone had to speak Spanish all day.
00:23:57.320 I did Spanish for about 14 years, and I still can't speak a lick because of the just flood of mass illegal immigration.
00:24:03.240 So everything all at once, homeward bound.
00:24:06.320 That's what I think we should be doing.
00:24:07.600 We need to get commas of people out here fast.
00:24:13.160 Mike Howell, give us a minute and talk about how you spun off the oversight project, which people know I had you on a ton when Steve was in prison, but you, I think, long predate his four-month sentence.
00:24:27.780 You guys have always been ahead of the curve.
00:24:29.440 We've got about a minute.
00:24:30.420 Talk about what you guys are doing now and just how you kind of pivoted off of Heritage.
00:24:34.080 Yeah, so we started at Heritage in 2022 because when Kevin Roberts took over, he invigorated the place, and we wanted to sue people, go on offense, launch these massive investigations.
00:24:44.640 Well, we need to grow.
00:24:46.000 We need to get out in the states, and we need to be more overtly political and say what needs to be said regardless of, you know, IRS, C3 issues.
00:24:53.840 So we reorganized ourselves as a 501c4 organization and kind of restructured our bones so that we could be very active in the states and have a more national presence because it is those blue states where everyone's trying out for president as a governor, you know, whether it's Pritzker, Newsom, Westmore here in Maryland, wherever.
00:25:13.540 And so we needed to restructure the operation so we can nimbly go after and sue in those areas and then talk about it the right way.
00:25:20.760 And so with the support of Dr. Roberts and Heritage, we basically got, you know, a starter amount to get rolling, and we're going to just rock and roll.
00:25:28.620 We're going to be doing it.
00:25:29.400 We sued Biden 100 times.
00:25:31.120 The governors have no idea what's coming.
00:25:33.180 We're turning this machinery throughout the country because we think it's a huge missing ingredient in the fight to retake the U.S.
00:25:39.760 Mike Howell, as always, thank you so much for joining us one more time.
00:25:45.260 If people want to follow you and stay up to date with everything you're working on, where can they go to do that?
00:25:50.200 Right.
00:25:50.560 So the Oversight Project can be found at itsyourgov on X and itsyourgov.org.
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00:26:18.320 Maybe we're on our own grading scale.
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00:26:26.320 Mike Howell, thank you so much for joining us.
00:26:28.280 We will have you back on soon.
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00:31:22.400 Welcome back to The War Room.
00:31:45.040 I'm honored, I think for the first time, to have a great reporter for The Daily Caller, Hudson.
00:31:50.100 I should have asked you in the break.
00:31:51.480 Crozier, I'm going to hope I got that right. 1.00
00:31:53.860 Joining us with what is a really wonderful story.
00:31:57.800 Warren Posse, you know, we track all the sort of resistance verticals who's funding these groups.
00:32:02.020 And though the Democratic Socialists for America might seem like a clown organization,
00:32:06.280 a lot of these protests, they're often listed as sponsoring or co-organizing, in some cases funding them.
00:32:12.020 So the, you know, meme videos from their organizational conferences, or I guess maybe their struggle sessions.
00:32:18.880 Aside, I don't think this organization is a total joke, at least ideology aside.
00:32:24.180 But Hudson, you have a great new piece sort of walking through how a certain mayoral election could potentially lead to maybe a resurgence or a rebirth,
00:32:33.980 not implying that they're totally dead.
00:32:35.480 But of the DSA here in the United States, I'd love if you could maybe walk the audience,
00:32:41.340 just give us a little background on what exactly this organization is,
00:32:44.380 but how it intersects with this campaign, potentially infusing it with kind of a new lifeblood on the American political scene.
00:32:53.240 Right. So thanks for having me on, Natalie.
00:32:55.540 Right. We've got a very important election coming up in New York City where the DSA is involved.
00:33:00.780 A lot of people might know DSA from backing Bernie Sanders for president back in the day,
00:33:06.960 but now they moved on to trying to install their own radical socialist as mayor of New York City.
00:33:12.920 His name is Zoran Mamdani.
00:33:14.940 And based on the polling, the Democrat primary for New York City mayor is pretty much becoming a two-person race between him and Andrew Cuomo.
00:33:24.180 And what you've got is this very interesting generational battle for the Democratic Party going on where Cuomo represents sort of the old guard
00:33:33.500 and Mamdani represents the new, younger, more radical leftist crowd that's super against Israel and wants all these free programs
00:33:42.860 and is skeptical of police and so on and so forth.
00:33:46.980 And so despite the DSA somewhat falling out of relevance in recent years,
00:33:53.080 if they could install somebody as mayor of New York City, that would be a pretty huge deal.
00:33:59.700 We refer to ourselves, I think, as a proud home of right-wing populism here in the war room.
00:34:05.100 And I'm just curious your thoughts if you see this as maybe a reflection of sort of the broader metanarrative that's been being pushed out,
00:34:11.320 the idea that these, you know, AOC and Bernie rallies are so widely attended that this more kind of strain of left-wing populism may be taking over that party.
00:34:20.880 In other words, is his potential ascent or rise being something that is, you know, championed or favored by the Democratic establishment?
00:34:29.060 Or do you get the sense that this is, you know, sort of something that they want to suppress?
00:34:33.140 The establishment, I'm not sure.
00:34:36.620 But the thing about New York City, much like D.C., it's kind of a place where all the political forces you could possibly imagine are converging on each other and fighting each other.
00:34:47.300 And so whatever happens here is probably going to be a trendsetter for what's going to happen across the country.
00:34:54.060 And so if DSA makes an example of somebody like Andrew Cuomo by installing someone as radical as Mamdani,
00:35:02.020 it will really give legitimacy to these more radical socialist factions of the Democratic Party saying,
00:35:08.980 OK, yeah, we should absolutely double down on this stuff.
00:35:12.560 There are basically two schools of – two major schools of thought in the Democratic Party right now since Trump won re-election.
00:35:19.420 It's did we lose because we were too radical and we need to walk back on some things and be more centrist?
00:35:26.140 Or did we lose because the Democrat establishment is just incompetent and too milquetoast and we actually need to embrace a newer brand of politics or, like you said, the populist left?
00:35:38.860 That's what's at stake in this upcoming race.
00:35:41.360 And is this the only DSA candidate who's, you know, having their seven minutes of fame right now, like being well-received across other states?
00:35:52.700 Are you seeing a similar uptick in not necessarily favorability but just reception towards their ideas or do you think this is sort of an isolated incident going on in New York?
00:36:03.020 I haven't looked closely enough across the country to be able to tell, but this is definitely the biggest, most high-profile candidate they're endorsing,
00:36:12.400 especially because he's doing so well, I would say defying expectations.
00:36:16.600 He's, like I said, polling in second place.
00:36:19.940 He's raising way more money than all the other candidates.
00:36:23.240 Now, to be fair, some of that is because the other candidates are having procedural difficulties with getting their campaign funds.
00:36:29.900 But nevertheless, he is defying expectations, for sure.
00:36:36.440 Defying expectations and probably causing a lot of nightmares among our audience.
00:36:41.000 Hudson, thank you so much for joining us.
00:36:43.180 Really a great piece.
00:36:44.200 You do great work.
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00:36:52.480 Yeah, thanks.
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00:37:09.240 Amazing.
00:37:09.880 Thank you so much for joining us.
00:37:11.180 We'll have you back on.
00:37:12.860 Thanks a lot.
00:37:13.600 See you later.
00:37:13.920 We are joined now by the one and only Sam Faddis.
00:37:21.020 I have to say, every time I host this show from the DC studio, I get like deja vu PTSD to Steve Bing in prison.
00:37:27.840 And I know you were one of my go-to guests, so I am eternally grateful for that.
00:37:32.100 But I guess how things have changed, never would I thought I'd be sitting here asking you for your thoughts on what the heck is going on between India and Pakistan.
00:37:39.660 It sounds like India is attacking to some extent. 0.99
00:37:42.880 Can you sort of walk us through the audience?
00:37:45.320 What is going on in that region?
00:37:49.360 Yeah.
00:37:49.960 So, in a nutshell, because we could spend the rest of the night talking this issue alone.
00:37:54.620 The Indians and the Pakistanis have been fighting over the Kashmir area, the state of Kashmir for, well, since there's been an India and a Pakistanis independent nations, disputing over who it should belong to.
00:38:07.980 And the Pakistanis have been supporting Islamic terrorist groups that operate in Kashmir and fairly regularly stage attacks against the Indians.
00:38:17.520 So, there was relatively recently such an attack in Kashmir.
00:38:22.000 The Indians are blaming the Pakistanis for it, have, since it occurred.
00:38:27.420 And they are now retaliating, staging what appears to be, as far as I can tell, airstrikes, but airstrikes with missiles, meaning the Indian aircraft didn't actually enter Pakistani airspace.
00:38:41.180 They fired the missiles from their own airspace and hit a variety of targets that seem to all be, if the Indians are being straight, targets that were connected to Pakistani intelligence and special operations folks.
00:38:59.180 In other words, the guys who would have been working with the terrorist group to carry this out.
00:39:04.700 On balance, I would say, right now, looks like the Indians have done what they were compelled to do, which was strike back, but they have limited it. 0.96
00:39:16.040 They're kind of giving the Pakistanis a chance to step off the path to escalation and let it go for the time being. 0.94
00:39:24.620 We'll see if that works.
00:39:29.360 And do you see any room or potential for, whether it's the, you know, eternally warmongering neocon side of things, to advocate for U.S. involvement here?
00:39:39.880 Or is this something that you think that will blow over?
00:39:42.480 Is it contained?
00:39:43.380 Does it not, you know, directly affect us?
00:39:45.660 How do you think this plays out from sort of, for lack of a better word, the America First worldview?
00:39:50.220 Yeah, well, there's always somebody in Washington who wants us to go to war someplace, right?
00:39:55.580 So that's a given.
00:39:57.400 They can never get enough of it.
00:39:59.320 You notice they never volunteer to go themselves, though.
00:40:01.800 Right now, if this plays the way I'm guessing the Indians want it to go, which is, yeah, there'll be a lot of yelling, but this will die down and be like, let's leave it alone.
00:40:17.620 So then I think we'll be fine.
00:40:21.080 But the problem, of course, is that that assumes cooler heads and rational thought on both sides in Pakistan and India. 0.99
00:40:29.320 All it takes is somebody in Pakistan to say, hell no, and do yet something, another stupid thing, and poke the Indians and compel them to ratchet this thing up. 0.98
00:40:43.520 And then we're off to the races. 0.99
00:40:45.220 I mean, with Pakistan and India, the chances for stuff to go sideways, it's always high. 1.00
00:40:54.380 And I want to pivot to a little more broadly.
00:40:57.280 We had Kurt Mills on earlier in the show talking about what was going on in Iran.
00:41:02.100 President Trump announcing today that, I guess, the Houthis no longer want to engage in their attacks because of the strikes, allegedly.
00:41:11.760 We'll see how that plays out.
00:41:13.480 But your sort of broader assessment of what you see going on there, we described with Kurt as sort of perhaps the kind of internal factions within the Trump administration, 0.57
00:41:22.020 the back and forth between the, you know, forever warmongering war in Iran, crazy people.
00:41:27.380 And those who even as you sort of saw, you know, I think, and I guess ironically, the signal group chat, people who are a little more averse to getting involved.
00:41:35.080 I guess maybe it's a Meersheimer-esque approach to things.
00:41:38.620 But your thoughts on what we've seen unfolding there.
00:41:43.080 Look, I'm hoping that what we're seeing is real and that the president's characterization of it is real.
00:41:51.480 And don't misunderstand me.
00:41:52.480 I'm not suggesting the president is deliberately misrepresenting something.
00:41:56.060 I'm hoping that what I'm saying is I'm hoping that what he's saying the Houthis have told us turns out to be legitimate and the Houthis are serious and they stand behind their assurances.
00:42:09.540 Because, yeah, in D.C. there's always somebody saying we should bomb somebody.
00:42:14.000 They don't ever have a plan for where exactly that's going to take us or how it's going to resolve it.
00:42:18.920 But they're always fired up for that.
00:42:20.700 And we've had way too much of that.
00:42:23.020 So assuming the Houthis are for real and they really want to de-escalate this and they've had enough, I'm 100 percent on board with the let's see where this goes and see if we can't ratchet this thing down. 0.94
00:42:38.340 But, you know, the issue is obvious there, though it's implied by the way I phrased it.
00:42:46.300 I mean, are the Houthis for real or not?
00:42:49.020 We'll see.
00:42:50.260 Have they had enough and is this legit and are the Iranians poking them to make, you know, to walk this thing back or are they just going to catch their breath and then turn around in a couple of days and do something dramatically different? 0.88
00:43:05.480 We will know, you know, pretty soon.
00:43:08.240 It's worth most definitely worth seeing if we can't de-escalate one of these things, right, instead of being in a hurry to start another war.
00:43:16.420 And Sam, I'm curious, Steve and I were discussing on a show last week, I think it was first reported, I guess coincidentally, in the Washington Post talking about the Trump administration's plans to fire some people from the CIA.
00:43:33.700 The number that they gave was about 1,200, they said maybe from some other agencies, too.
00:43:40.080 But if you really read the sort of fine print, it wasn't actively firing anyone.
00:43:44.760 It was essentially, you know, amplifying the speed of people who had already expressed or indicated that they wanted to retire.
00:43:51.940 Certainly not, I think, the mass firings or, you know, change or cleaning house that maybe some people in our audience certainly believe is necessary.
00:44:02.020 I mean, the fact they don't think there's just one person there that should be fired is a little wild to me.
00:44:07.120 But I'd be curious your thoughts on those numbers, those estimates, what you think is going on on that front.
00:44:14.160 Well, as I understand it, we were talking somewhere in the neighborhood of like 1,200 people, and it was more or less like folks retiring early, this kind of thing.
00:44:27.000 Do I think we should cut numbers?
00:44:28.840 Yeah, I think we should cut numbers.
00:44:30.880 Would I like to see the firing targeted more at the specific people we need to get rid of?
00:44:37.860 Like DEI hires, folks that were hired who are completely unqualified, not helping the retired guy who's leave six months early, but let's fire the person who never should have been there in the first place.
00:44:50.960 Let's fire the folks, and we can identify a number of them by name, who were involved in efforts to prevent Donald Trump from ever getting in the White House the first time,
00:45:02.080 destabilize his administration the first time, and then who worked throughout the Biden administration against him.
00:45:11.640 I personally would like to see, if you will, more targeted firings.
00:45:18.260 Let's get rid of the folks who are the problem, not just say we'll get rid of 1,200 people, let experience go out the door and keep folks that should have never been there in the first place.
00:45:29.380 And last question before I let you go, obviously the Ukraine mineral deal, that was something that I think the war room posse, Steve and I were a little, shall we say cagey about,
00:45:42.820 just because it seems like a nice pretext to opening up the door for, you know, forever continued United States involvement,
00:45:49.380 maybe a little more euphemistically than a forever war.
00:45:52.040 Sure, it's a more Marshall Plan-esque in the spirit of rebuilding Ukraine, not the United States of America.
00:45:59.380 But I'm just curious your thoughts on that deal, and if you think that it could potentially snowball into something where we see, you know,
00:46:08.760 heavy United States involvement or presence there, what that would sort of look like, or maybe you, you know, have a different opinion, you think it's a good deal.
00:46:17.160 I'm just curious your thoughts.
00:46:18.340 Well, I think the best way I'd characterize it is that I have the same concerns, right?
00:46:23.880 I mean, why we ended up in a war in Ukraine, and I'm not making excuses for Vladimir Putin. 0.99
00:46:29.420 He's a thug.
00:46:30.200 I've never, never sided with Putin and never will. 0.75
00:46:34.520 But the point is, it is our policy, the endless expansion of NATO, the, you know, constantly from Putin's standpoint,
00:46:43.120 us getting closer and closer to Moscow and more and more threatening, again, from his worldview,
00:46:50.140 that in my opinion, ultimately led to the Ukraine conflict.
00:46:53.360 Again, that doesn't justify his invasion of the country.
00:46:56.480 That's not where I'm going.
00:46:57.720 I'm saying our strategy was very ill-advised, and we should have learned from that,
00:47:05.480 and therefore we should not bring this conflict, try to bring this conflict to a close,
00:47:11.700 but be even more entangled and more forward-leaning.
00:47:15.860 I mean, any Russian leader in Moscow is going to feel threatened by the idea that the Americans are on his doorstep.
00:47:23.500 That's just, that's reality, whether you want to, whether it should be or shouldn't be that way.
00:47:28.700 That's the reality.
00:47:29.780 We should have learned that lesson by now.
00:47:31.940 A lot of people had to die for us to absorb that lesson.
00:47:35.740 Let's not come out of this thing sort of back where we started from.
00:47:41.740 Sam Faddis, I always appreciate you taking the time to join us here in the warm,
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00:47:55.720 Best place to go, go to AND Magazine, the magazine, online magazine.
00:47:59.700 My wife and I run andmagazine.substack.com, myself, her,
00:48:06.820 and actually a number of other patriots who used to work in the intelligence community
00:48:11.840 and actually still believe in ethics right there.
00:48:15.620 Sam Faddis, thank you so much for joining us.
00:48:19.940 I am sure we will have you back on soon.
00:48:23.240 Thank you, ma'am.
00:48:24.000 Have a good evening.
00:48:26.740 And Denver, producer, will you appease me and play one more time
00:48:31.040 my favorite 30-second Tom Tillis clip just for some fun?
00:48:37.100 We'll roll it.
00:48:37.940 I met with Mr. Martin.
00:48:39.940 He seems like a good man.
00:48:43.060 Most of my concerns related to January 6th.
00:48:45.700 I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been in prison for some period of time.
00:48:49.520 Whether it's 30 days or three years is debatable,
00:48:51.420 but I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the building on January 6th,
00:48:56.600 and that's probably where most of the friction was.
00:48:58.540 If Mr. Martin were being put forth as a U.S. attorney for any district except the district
00:49:03.920 where January 6th happened, the protests happened, I'd probably support him.
00:49:08.120 Really, Senator Tillis, you have, quote,
00:49:12.260 no tolerance for anyone who entered the, what was it, wide open door building on January 6th.
00:49:19.320 Well, that's quite funny because you were one of the primary authors of the bill
00:49:25.160 that would have allowed for people who entered this country illegally to be granted,
00:49:29.520 that's right, citizenship and amnesty,
00:49:33.360 that bipartisan border bill that we've all heard so much about.
00:49:37.560 Yeah, the one that, what was it, that also let 5,000 people in a day,
00:49:41.480 because that sounds really secure. 0.87
00:49:43.320 You are such a joke.
00:49:46.620 I mean, there's literally no other way to put it.
00:49:49.200 The one issue that you will nitpick with Ed Martin,
00:49:52.000 the reason why you cannot bring yourself to vote for it, for him,
00:49:55.960 is because of a couple hundred cases that happened years ago.
00:49:59.840 Now, don't get, make no mistake,
00:50:01.400 that burns in our memory every night here in the war room,
00:50:03.740 but that is enough for you to not vote to confirm and hand over that position
00:50:09.320 to someone who will be pointed by the radical pro-illegal alien,
00:50:13.260 I guess maybe you have that in common,
00:50:14.840 Judge Boesberg, totally kneecapped the Trump agenda.
00:50:19.520 You are okay with turning that over because you find it slightly debatable.
00:50:23.180 I love that word.
00:50:24.800 If you haven't told, I've really fixed on that one.
00:50:26.580 Slightly debatable.
00:50:28.980 It is such an interesting, tacit admission,
00:50:32.340 if not outright Freudian slip, I'm aware that is oxymoronic,
00:50:36.020 that you didn't find anything debatable
00:50:39.180 about Merrick Garland, Gina Raimondo, Lloyd Austin, Janet Yellen,
00:50:44.340 Matthew frickin' Graves.
00:50:46.180 There was nothing debatable on their record.
00:50:51.860 Or you can shill for Zelensky on the Senate floor.
00:50:56.020 You can overlook the fact that he's attacked Christians,
00:50:58.860 laundered a ton of money,
00:51:00.360 stolen your constituents' taxpayer dollars,
00:51:02.720 and frickin' canceled elections.
00:51:05.320 But you think that you're gonna demand that the American people thank him?
00:51:08.340 All of this to say that it's purely performative,
00:51:15.540 his gripe with Ed Martin being some random January 6th cases.
00:51:21.360 And I think Mike Benz laid out a very interesting case,
00:51:24.340 and I think my case in terms of following the money,
00:51:26.420 all of that conjoined.
00:51:28.680 It leaves a lot of room for questioning.
00:51:31.580 Senator Tillis.
00:51:33.460 Enjoy feeling like the smart one at the cocktail parties.
00:51:36.320 Because MAGA wants nothing to do with you.
00:51:39.280 In fact, I think you were actually censored
00:51:40.580 by the North Carolina GOP not too long ago.
00:51:43.120 Though that was for your votes on gay marriage, 0.96
00:51:45.780 the wall,
00:51:46.900 and a separate illegal alien amnesty bill.
00:51:50.300 So, it sounds like history repeats itself.
00:51:54.060 Don't worry, there will be a lot more where that came from
00:51:56.840 on Senator Tillis.
00:51:58.260 I'm sure Steve will pick up the mantle on tomorrow morning's show.
00:52:00.940 But until then, make sure you're checking out
00:52:03.320 birchgold.com slash bannon or texting.
00:52:06.320 Bannon 298-9898.
00:52:08.820 If it's people like Senator Tillis
00:52:10.820 who are helming the global financial markets,
00:52:15.160 and those are some of his biggest donors,
00:52:17.240 if they don't want investigations
00:52:18.480 into what's been going on in D.C.,
00:52:21.140 I don't know, maybe that's why gold has always been a hedge
00:52:23.660 against these, as Ben Harnwell would say,
00:52:26.560 sociopathic overlords.
00:52:28.000 And I'm being nice in my characterization.
00:52:30.620 I will leave it at that.
00:52:32.160 Thank you, Warren Posse.
00:52:32.960 Have a good one.
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