Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 763： Columbia Lays Off 180 Staff After Trump Cuts, Time For Accountability For Border Invasion

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream

00:00:29.540 of a dying regime.

00:00:31.980 Pray for our enemies

00:00:33.200 because we're going medieval

00:00:35.220 on these people.

00:00:37.240 I got a free shot

00:00:38.400 on all these networks

00:00:39.140 lying about the people.

00:00:41.500 The people have had

00:00:42.160 a belly full of it.

00:00:43.460 I know you don't like

00:00:44.100 hearing that.

00:00:44.880 I know you try to do

00:00:45.560 everything in the world

00:00:46.080 to stop that,

00:00:46.600 but you're not going to

00:00:47.060 stop it.

00:00:47.540 It's going to happen.

00:00:48.800 And where do people like

00:00:49.560 that go to share

00:00:50.780 the big lie?

00:00:52.200 Mega media.

00:00:53.540 I wish in my soul,

00:00:55.340 I wish that any of these

00:00:56.880 people had a conscience.

00:00:58.980 Ask yourself,

00:01:00.000 what is my task

00:01:01.080 and what is my purpose?

00:01:02.720 If that answer

00:01:03.860 is to save my country,

00:01:05.920 this country will be saved.

00:01:09.080 War Room.

00:01:09.940 Here's your host,

00:01:11.280 Stephen K. Bannon.

00:01:17.140 You're in the War Room.

00:01:18.380 It's Wednesday, May 7th

00:01:20.060 in the year of our Lord, 2025.

00:01:22.820 It's Natalie Winters

00:01:23.680 filling in for the one

00:01:25.240 and only Stephen K. Bannon.

00:01:27.700 But as you can imagine,

00:01:28.580 we have a very packed show.

00:01:30.880 We're going to hit everything

00:01:31.820 from the illegal alien invasion.

00:01:34.300 I guess past tense

00:01:35.280 on that one, though.

00:01:36.060 We do need to get

00:01:36.620 those deportation numbers up,

00:01:38.100 all things tariff,

00:01:39.320 reconciliation.

00:01:40.920 But I'm honored to start

00:01:42.460 with someone who I consider

00:01:43.380 a dear friend,

00:01:44.220 and that is Evita Duffy

00:01:45.920 of the wonderful

00:01:47.260 Bongino Report,

00:01:48.960 who had a fire show

00:01:49.920 this morning.

00:01:50.620 So I thought,

00:01:51.040 naturally,

00:01:51.500 I should have her on

00:01:53.180 to talk about

00:01:53.960 a lot of things.

00:01:55.000 But I want to start

00:01:55.840 with the news

00:01:57.040 of what was it?

00:01:57.740 Columbia having to lay off

00:01:59.880 about 180 people or so

00:02:01.820 after 400 million

00:02:03.060 in federal funds

00:02:04.720 were cut

00:02:05.640 from their institution.

00:02:06.740 I think a bit of

00:02:07.300 a different strapline

00:02:08.140 than we're hearing

00:02:08.660 from Harvard,

00:02:09.420 which is now pitching itself

00:02:10.580 as, you know,

00:02:11.420 the new stronghold

00:02:12.300 of resisting anything

00:02:13.780 that President Trump does.

00:02:16.220 There's also been

00:02:16.800 some wild protests

00:02:18.120 that have broken out

00:02:19.020 on the Columbia campus,

00:02:20.280 though I guess

00:02:20.660 that's maybe just

00:02:21.400 their culture now

00:02:22.500 at this point.

00:02:23.300 History tends to repeat itself.

00:02:25.040 But Evita,

00:02:25.360 I'd love to get your thoughts.

00:02:26.380 People may know

00:02:26.920 we both went to UChicago.

00:02:28.300 We've had our own taste

00:02:29.640 for the flair

00:02:30.620 of far-left radicalism.

00:02:32.700 But your thoughts

00:02:33.880 on what's going on

00:02:34.680 with the Columbia incident.

00:02:36.980 So it was 180

00:02:38.360 administrators,

00:02:41.300 staff that were laid off.

00:02:42.840 And I saw this

00:02:43.500 and I was so excited, Natalie.

00:02:44.740 I was like,

00:02:45.020 this is what we need

00:02:45.940 because most schools,

00:02:47.440 including the University of Chicago,

00:02:49.260 have way too many administrators.

00:02:51.500 In the past,

00:02:52.100 at universities,

00:02:53.080 it used to be

00:02:53.740 you had the professors,

00:02:55.960 you had the students,

00:02:56.980 there was maybe

00:02:57.620 a few department heads,

00:02:58.860 and that was it

00:02:59.560 for administration.

00:03:00.860 Today, part of why

00:03:01.940 schools are so radical

00:03:03.100 and also why

00:03:04.480 they're so expensive

00:03:05.420 is because

00:03:06.140 there are so many administrators.

00:03:07.980 At some schools,

00:03:08.760 there are more administrators

00:03:09.900 than there are even students.

00:03:11.920 At Columbia,

00:03:12.960 there are about

00:03:13.620 two administrators

00:03:14.440 for every three students.

00:03:15.440 So I was,

00:03:17.300 initially I saw this

00:03:18.300 and I was like,

00:03:18.780 great,

00:03:19.060 they're firing these people now

00:03:20.340 because they have these

00:03:21.220 financial restraints

00:03:23.000 because they've lost

00:03:23.740 all this funding.

00:03:24.700 And then I realized,

00:03:25.640 actually,

00:03:26.460 the firings were only people

00:03:27.880 related to research grants.

00:03:29.760 And I actually think

00:03:30.740 this is a great opportunity

00:03:31.840 for the Trump admin

00:03:32.680 to reassess and say,

00:03:34.160 you know what,

00:03:34.500 if we really want to put pressure

00:03:35.640 on these schools

00:03:36.340 to change their ways,

00:03:38.100 we have to actually

00:03:39.140 require them,

00:03:40.340 if they want to receive

00:03:41.200 federal funding,

00:03:41.980 to be financially responsible,

00:03:43.640 to say,

00:03:44.580 let's get rid of

00:03:45.580 95% of these administrators.

00:03:47.920 The cost of school

00:03:48.600 is going to come down,

00:03:49.520 the student debt

00:03:50.180 is going to come down,

00:03:51.180 and they're actually

00:03:52.160 going to be less radical

00:03:53.200 because studies show

00:03:54.540 that administrators

00:03:55.680 are far more left-wing

00:03:57.780 than even the professors.

00:03:59.460 It has to be addressed.

00:04:02.560 And I'm curious,

00:04:03.720 broadening out

00:04:04.340 this sort of critique

00:04:05.160 to the Harvard front,

00:04:08.120 what's your take,

00:04:09.480 I think,

00:04:09.880 maybe just,

00:04:10.840 again,

00:04:11.080 across the board

00:04:12.200 on going after

00:04:13.280 these institutions.

00:04:14.160 I would assume,

00:04:15.080 like I said,

00:04:15.640 we're both,

00:04:16.400 I guess,

00:04:16.900 we won't be woke,

00:04:17.840 we won't say victims,

00:04:19.120 we're survivors

00:04:19.820 of educational institutions

00:04:22.080 like you, Chicago,

00:04:23.960 but the rebrand,

00:04:26.400 potentially,

00:04:26.960 of these universities,

00:04:27.860 do you think that

00:04:28.340 going after their

00:04:29.360 federal funding

00:04:30.320 is the best way

00:04:31.500 to try to bring about

00:04:32.460 change on these campuses,

00:04:34.040 or what other tactics

00:04:35.260 do you think

00:04:35.980 that you would dip into

00:04:37.060 to try to,

00:04:38.140 I guess,

00:04:38.360 restore these universities

00:04:40.220 to their original founding

00:04:41.680 and the visions

00:04:42.440 that the founding fathers

00:04:43.560 had oftentimes

00:04:44.560 when they created

00:04:45.240 these schools?

00:04:46.960 Well,

00:04:47.080 I think right off the bat,

00:04:48.840 the government

00:04:49.800 is very limited

00:04:50.600 in what it can do

00:04:51.680 to reform these schools

00:04:52.860 because the universities

00:04:54.540 have lost sight

00:04:55.300 of their mission.

00:04:56.160 We can't pull funding

00:04:57.080 and hope that they

00:04:57.780 reclaim their mission.

00:04:59.120 The mission of

00:04:59.840 the university system,

00:05:01.160 if you go back

00:05:01.660 to the Middle Ages,

00:05:02.820 was religion,

00:05:04.100 was seeking the truth,

00:05:05.600 which was seeking Christ.

00:05:07.340 That has been

00:05:08.980 completely abandoned

00:05:10.000 by the university system.

00:05:11.300 We can pull

00:05:11.720 all the funding we want.

00:05:13.040 Something much more

00:05:13.960 spiritual and deeper

00:05:15.120 needs to happen

00:05:15.700 at these schools.

00:05:16.520 If you want to talk

00:05:17.360 about surface-level

00:05:18.740 things that we can do,

00:05:20.620 I like a lot of

00:05:21.420 what the Trump admin

00:05:22.060 is doing.

00:05:22.880 My one critique

00:05:23.780 is that I'm not sure

00:05:25.940 forcing the ban

00:05:27.380 of certain student groups

00:05:28.540 at Harvard and Columbia

00:05:29.760 is the way to go about

00:05:31.300 creating the change

00:05:32.500 that we want to see

00:05:33.220 because I think

00:05:34.140 we have to have

00:05:35.340 a standard of free speech

00:05:37.040 among the students,

00:05:38.160 at least.

00:05:38.720 We can get rid

00:05:39.420 of crazy departments

00:05:40.400 that have no reason

00:05:41.720 to exist on campus.

00:05:43.200 CRT, we had it

00:05:44.740 at UChicago,

00:05:45.580 it's a fake field of study.

00:05:46.980 But when we say

00:05:47.840 we're going to ban

00:05:49.380 certain pro-Palestine

00:05:50.640 student groups,

00:05:51.440 that reminds me

00:05:52.240 of when I was at UChicago

00:05:53.320 and I tried to have

00:05:54.360 a Turning Point USA chapter

00:05:55.800 and the school actually said,

00:05:57.800 well, the student government

00:06:00.120 that had to approve

00:06:01.820 my student organization

00:06:03.820 said this is actually

00:06:05.260 a dangerous thing on campus.

00:06:06.880 We don't know

00:06:07.300 what kind of beliefs

00:06:08.500 that she could be exposed

00:06:10.300 and the other students to

00:06:11.320 and causing danger

00:06:12.880 to other students.

00:06:14.460 So I think there are

00:06:16.880 really good things

00:06:17.560 that are happening

00:06:18.040 that the admin is doing,

00:06:18.940 promoting merit-based

00:06:20.560 hiring practices,

00:06:21.820 getting rid of CRT

00:06:22.920 and other things

00:06:23.520 that are terrible

00:06:24.000 at these universities.

00:06:25.660 And on the flip side,

00:06:27.820 I also think

00:06:28.660 they have to be supportive

00:06:29.880 of free speech

00:06:30.560 because I've seen

00:06:31.300 the other side of it.

00:06:32.200 They can come after us

00:06:33.080 just as easily.

00:06:33.820 I'll never forget

00:06:36.360 I was once sitting

00:06:37.500 in some poli-sci class

00:06:38.880 at UChicago

00:06:39.640 and I believe

00:06:40.820 the instructor was talking

00:06:42.320 very positively

00:06:43.320 lauding the efforts

00:06:44.480 of, I kid you not,

00:06:45.320 the Clinton Global Initiative

00:06:46.760 in Haiti.

00:06:47.920 I was like,

00:06:48.620 what planet am I on?

00:06:51.100 But nonetheless,

00:06:51.800 I defended,

00:06:52.520 I would have defended

00:06:53.200 their right to be able

00:06:54.060 to say that

00:06:54.640 and I agree

00:06:55.160 we need to be

00:06:55.860 very careful

00:06:56.960 with how we use

00:06:57.840 these free speech,

00:06:58.880 I think, tactics

00:06:59.840 because they will

00:07:00.700 very easily be used

00:07:02.080 against us.

00:07:02.940 It's like opening

00:07:03.520 Pandora's box

00:07:06.000 and obviously

00:07:06.840 we can never rely

00:07:08.040 on these activist judges

00:07:09.160 to take our side.

00:07:10.420 I think we've seen

00:07:10.880 that time and time again

00:07:11.700 just today breaking

00:07:12.580 that a judge

00:07:13.700 who, speaking of academia,

00:07:15.120 decided that it would be

00:07:16.080 a good idea

00:07:16.540 to block

00:07:17.040 President Trump's

00:07:18.300 efforts to claw back

00:07:19.680 $1.1 billion

00:07:20.680 in COVID aid

00:07:22.120 for schools.

00:07:23.180 I guess the pandemic

00:07:23.980 is still going on

00:07:25.000 according to some

00:07:25.760 radical federal judge

00:07:27.400 up in Manhattan.

00:07:28.380 Well, it turns out

00:07:29.020 that this judge

00:07:29.760 was also a fundraiser

00:07:31.080 for triple threat,

00:07:32.760 Andrew Cuomo,

00:07:33.780 Hillary Clinton,

00:07:34.760 and Barack Obama,

00:07:36.000 but somehow nonpartisan.

00:07:38.100 Try to square

00:07:38.860 that logic train.

00:07:40.340 But I guess

00:07:41.120 the Supreme Court,

00:07:42.120 Avita, as you noted today,

00:07:43.100 has been stepping in

00:07:44.280 on President Trump's

00:07:46.260 transgender troop ban,

00:07:48.540 seems like common sense

00:07:50.060 to me,

00:07:50.760 quite oxymoronic,

00:07:52.380 at least the first part

00:07:53.300 of that phrase.

00:07:54.280 Can you walk us through

00:07:55.500 your thoughts on that?

00:07:57.800 Well, I think it's,

00:07:58.500 I mean, it's a huge win

00:07:59.360 for the admin.

00:08:00.380 And what the Trump admin

00:08:01.880 has been doing

00:08:02.540 across the board here

00:08:03.560 is rebuilding

00:08:04.820 our institutions.

00:08:06.100 This is happening

00:08:07.240 with the university system.

00:08:08.460 Now it's happening

00:08:09.260 with the military.

00:08:10.520 You can get denied

00:08:11.620 from certain positions

00:08:13.400 in the military

00:08:14.080 if your eyesight is bad,

00:08:15.580 if you're flat-footed,

00:08:16.880 that we had a policy

00:08:18.240 where we were allowing

00:08:19.780 transgender individuals

00:08:21.180 to serve in the military

00:08:22.440 creates a problem.

00:08:23.600 What unit do you put them in?

00:08:24.880 Male, female?

00:08:25.780 We don't know.

00:08:26.660 Also, having the taxpayers

00:08:27.860 foot the bill.

00:08:28.840 It's over an estimated

00:08:30.240 $8 million a year

00:08:31.720 that the taxpayers

00:08:32.640 were paying

00:08:33.300 for transgender surgeries

00:08:35.260 and hormones.

00:08:36.020 Completely unnecessary.

00:08:37.720 So this is a big win

00:08:39.500 for the admin, of course.

00:08:41.060 And it comes back

00:08:41.720 to, Natalie,

00:08:42.180 this idea that

00:08:42.980 we as conservatives

00:08:44.320 don't tear down.

00:08:45.700 That is what the left does.

00:08:47.080 They destroy things.

00:08:48.140 They burn it down.

00:08:50.120 We know our institutions

00:08:51.680 are broken

00:08:52.240 and we are rebuilding them

00:08:54.300 from the bottom up.

00:08:55.440 And this is so important.

00:08:57.340 This is the difference

00:08:58.300 between the two camps here.

00:09:01.780 And I know you have been going after

00:09:04.480 we have two in the war room,

00:09:05.860 Senator Tillis,

00:09:06.880 for his just absolutely feckless,

00:09:09.320 ridiculous seed,

00:09:10.880 all the territory.

00:09:12.360 I was going to say to Democrats,

00:09:13.780 but I guess more precisely

00:09:14.880 to Judge Boesburg,

00:09:16.000 the man who wants amnesty

00:09:17.460 for illegal aliens

00:09:18.360 that illegally entered

00:09:19.200 this country,

00:09:19.860 but apparently Ed Martin

00:09:21.320 wanting to defend Americans

00:09:22.860 who entered a building

00:09:23.940 with open doors

00:09:24.800 on January 6th.

00:09:25.940 That's where he draws

00:09:26.740 his red line.

00:09:28.240 I could think of a lot of words

00:09:29.680 to describe him.

00:09:30.540 I would not go with

00:09:31.380 patriot, Republican,

00:09:32.600 or conservative,

00:09:33.540 or MAGA.

00:09:34.980 But more broadly

00:09:36.200 to this point,

00:09:36.960 I think of when we've seen

00:09:37.880 the courts intervene

00:09:38.780 really only to sabotage

00:09:40.120 or subvert

00:09:40.680 President Trump's agenda.

00:09:41.780 But I think it fits

00:09:42.420 in quite nicely

00:09:43.160 with the Tillis critique.

00:09:45.100 But I know you've been

00:09:45.740 going off on him.

00:09:47.360 You guys obviously support

00:09:48.260 Ed Martin.

00:09:48.860 Your thoughts on where we stand

00:09:50.560 with Senator Tillis

00:09:51.980 still not looking like

00:09:52.880 he's going to budge.

00:09:54.660 Well, I mean,

00:09:54.920 it's just absurd, Natalie.

00:09:56.320 I mean, it's funny

00:09:57.760 because we talk about

00:09:58.900 the Supreme Court

00:09:59.680 and the way that

00:10:00.420 the liberal judges

00:10:01.280 on that court,

00:10:02.380 they never step out of line.

00:10:04.780 And we have this route

00:10:05.840 with the constitutionalists

00:10:07.180 and the originalists,

00:10:08.060 and somehow we continue

00:10:09.320 to lose with all

00:10:10.580 of our nominees

00:10:11.260 time and time again.

00:10:12.940 They make very bad decisions.

00:10:14.560 And the same, I think,

00:10:15.340 goes for a lot of

00:10:16.100 our members of Congress.

00:10:17.140 They make really bad decisions.

00:10:19.280 They are not new right.

00:10:20.540 They don't care about

00:10:21.700 their own base.

00:10:23.680 What the January 6th

00:10:25.400 witch hunt was,

00:10:26.520 was a way to demonize

00:10:28.520 Trump supporters,

00:10:29.900 to squash dissent

00:10:31.640 in this country.

00:10:32.500 It was deeply authoritarian.

00:10:34.100 It was frankly

00:10:34.720 unconstitutional.

00:10:35.940 They hid evidence

00:10:37.040 from the January 6th

00:10:38.420 lawyers.

00:10:39.460 The whole thing

00:10:40.220 was botched,

00:10:41.120 that this man,

00:10:42.200 a Republican senator,

00:10:43.840 is going to,

00:10:45.040 I don't know,

00:10:45.620 be angry that somebody

00:10:47.040 actually stood up

00:10:48.160 for the persecuted

00:10:49.100 January 6ers.

00:10:50.180 It's absolutely absurd.

00:10:51.120 And what's more absurd

00:10:51.960 is that he actually

00:10:53.500 not only voted

00:10:54.740 for Merrick Garland,

00:10:55.680 but he enthusiastically

00:10:57.020 voted for Merrick Garland

00:10:58.780 for his confirmation,

00:11:00.060 the most corrupt

00:11:00.920 attorney general

00:11:01.660 in American history.

00:11:03.080 So to me,

00:11:03.800 I just take a step back

00:11:04.720 and say, wow,

00:11:05.580 we really need

00:11:06.640 to reassess

00:11:07.760 these members

00:11:08.360 of Congress

00:11:08.820 and start primarying

00:11:10.160 people who clearly

00:11:11.440 are our own enemies.

00:11:14.820 I am fully

00:11:16.360 for primarying people

00:11:17.460 like Senator Tillis.

00:11:18.440 Frankly,

00:11:18.840 to me,

00:11:19.400 we could probably

00:11:19.840 primary all of Congress

00:11:21.080 and I really wouldn't

00:11:21.960 have an issue

00:11:22.520 with that.

00:11:23.640 I'd say maybe

00:11:24.240 MTG,

00:11:25.220 Burchett.

00:11:26.540 That's probably about it.

00:11:27.980 A few other good ones,

00:11:29.440 but I guess

00:11:30.460 their names escape me.

00:11:31.680 Avita Duffy,

00:11:32.180 you have a wonderful show.

00:11:33.500 If people want

00:11:34.020 to follow you,

00:11:34.980 get all the podcasts,

00:11:36.100 let us know.

00:11:37.120 Totally tell us

00:11:37.840 where we can get it.

00:11:38.620 Rumble,

00:11:39.100 I know the streaming,

00:11:40.180 but tell us where

00:11:40.800 we can watch

00:11:41.340 all your stuff.

00:11:42.620 So my Instagram

00:11:43.780 and my ex-account

00:11:44.860 is Avita Duffy underscore one.

00:11:46.500 I live stream

00:11:47.460 on Rumble

00:11:47.860 at 9 a.m.

00:11:48.560 Eastern time,

00:11:49.280 five days a week,

00:11:50.400 rumble.com slash Avita.

00:11:52.300 Thanks so much

00:11:52.860 for having me on,

00:11:53.480 Natalie.

00:11:54.960 Of course,

00:11:55.640 thank you so much

00:11:56.440 for joining us.

00:11:57.360 Avita and I

00:11:57.740 recently did an episode

00:11:58.680 that you guys

00:11:59.240 should go watch too,

00:12:00.740 talking all about our PTSD

00:12:03.100 from our days

00:12:04.260 at UChicago.

00:12:06.380 And I would also

00:12:07.040 just add to Avita

00:12:08.540 astutely pointing out

00:12:09.620 that Senator Tillis,

00:12:11.900 who I'm sure

00:12:12.460 is enjoying

00:12:13.000 all of his nice handshakes

00:12:14.860 and, you know,

00:12:15.420 pats on the back

00:12:16.180 at the nice swanky

00:12:17.060 D.C. cocktail parties

00:12:18.120 that he's been invited to

00:12:19.180 while he's busy

00:12:19.820 shilling for Ukraine

00:12:20.940 because apparently

00:12:21.920 in the D.C. social

00:12:23.120 credit score system

00:12:24.140 that gets you

00:12:24.940 the nice invites

00:12:26.140 that he also voted for.

00:12:27.740 Who was it?

00:12:28.200 I believe Matthew Graves,

00:12:29.640 Ed Martin's counterpart.

00:12:31.340 Pete Buttigieg,

00:12:32.180 saw nothing wrong

00:12:32.920 with that one.

00:12:33.660 Gina Raimondo,

00:12:35.200 Lloyd Austin,

00:12:37.080 Janet Yellen,

00:12:38.760 and virtually,

00:12:39.900 I think,

00:12:40.200 everyone else.

00:12:40.800 I'd be hard-pressed

00:12:41.560 to find a no vote.

00:12:43.240 So that shows you

00:12:44.080 what we're up against.

00:12:45.180 Remember,

00:12:45.580 he found it debatable

00:12:46.680 that Ed Martin

00:12:47.500 decided to defend

00:12:48.600 some,

00:12:49.700 some January Sixers

00:12:51.400 who had,

00:12:52.240 quote,

00:12:52.360 breached

00:12:52.820 a building,

00:12:54.460 but he saw

00:12:55.260 nothing debatable

00:12:56.180 in Merrick Garland's record.

00:12:58.380 I don't think

00:13:02.220 the war room exists,

00:13:03.440 or maybe rather

00:13:04.080 this is the raison d'etre

00:13:05.280 of the war room

00:13:06.160 to call out people

00:13:07.400 like you,

00:13:08.340 Senator Tillis.

00:13:09.160 You guys know the drill.

00:13:10.120 It's 202-224-3121.

00:13:13.720 You can call,

00:13:15.180 maybe just

00:13:16.120 for good measure,

00:13:17.660 call peacefully

00:13:18.320 and patriotically.

00:13:19.460 I'm sure

00:13:20.020 Senator Tillis

00:13:20.880 would love to hear

00:13:21.500 those words.

00:13:23.100 Speaking of Janet Yellen,

00:13:24.540 I've got a cold open

00:13:25.300 that I want to play

00:13:25.860 for our next guest,

00:13:26.860 Richard Stern,

00:13:27.680 who will join us shortly.

00:13:29.300 But Denver,

00:13:29.900 if you want to roll

00:13:30.620 some MSNBC stuff,

00:13:32.280 let's go.

00:13:33.520 All right, Christine,

00:13:34.260 I'll begin with you.

00:13:34.900 No change from the Fed.

00:13:36.120 Yeah, and just looking through

00:13:37.120 what the Fed has to say here,

00:13:38.600 unchanged at 4.25%

00:13:39.580 to 4.5%,

00:13:40.460 as you pointed out,

00:13:41.220 but a higher chance

00:13:42.140 of rising inflation

00:13:43.660 and rising unemployment.

00:13:44.900 The Fed didn't use

00:13:45.600 the word stagflation,

00:13:46.700 but that's what that means

00:13:47.540 when you have inflation rising

00:13:49.120 and unemployment rising.

00:13:49.980 That's basically

00:13:50.080 the worst case scenario.

00:13:51.040 That's bad, right?

00:13:51.840 So there's a higher chance

00:13:53.220 of rising inflation

00:13:54.300 and rising unemployment

00:13:55.080 and a further increase

00:13:56.980 in uncertainty to the outlook.

00:13:58.680 What does that mean?

00:13:59.560 They don't know

00:14:00.200 what the damage and pain

00:14:02.080 will be in the end

00:14:03.240 of the president's trade war.

00:14:05.240 So that is one reason

00:14:06.280 why they don't really have

00:14:07.200 much move to maneuver here.

00:14:09.120 They're pointing out also

00:14:10.220 that the economy started

00:14:11.280 from a pretty solid pace.

00:14:12.960 So really,

00:14:13.540 you had a solid backdrop

00:14:14.880 to the economy

00:14:15.500 until about the beginning

00:14:16.760 of April.

00:14:17.800 And then now,

00:14:18.540 since then,

00:14:18.900 we have seen

00:14:19.560 all of this disruption

00:14:20.880 from the president's trade war.

00:14:22.620 So the Fed here, TBD,

00:14:24.340 I will say at 2.30

00:14:25.620 in about 27 minutes,

00:14:26.520 the Fed chief

00:14:27.080 is going to be speaking.

00:14:28.040 So that's when reporters

00:14:29.380 will really be able

00:14:29.940 to ask him more

00:14:30.660 about the trade war.

00:14:32.680 And then, of course,

00:14:33.360 we'll wait to see

00:14:33.900 if the president

00:14:34.420 expresses any displeasure

00:14:36.840 or pressure

00:14:37.340 on the Fed

00:14:38.140 for not lowering.

00:14:38.740 Call it a hunch,

00:14:41.440 but probably a lot of lies

00:14:42.980 and media spin

00:14:43.860 detected there.

00:14:45.480 So, of course,

00:14:46.080 naturally,

00:14:46.620 we want Rich Stern

00:14:47.760 on the program

00:14:48.620 to help us walk through

00:14:49.840 why the Fed

00:14:50.480 is keeping their interest rates

00:14:51.720 steady.

00:14:52.080 I guess the ongoing,

00:14:53.060 what is it,

00:14:54.300 tussle between

00:14:55.280 President Trump

00:14:56.380 and the Fed.

00:14:58.280 Shall we say,

00:14:58.960 and the Fed?

00:14:59.340 I think we support that

00:15:00.040 here in the war room.

00:15:00.840 But Rich Stern,

00:15:01.480 can you walk us through

00:15:02.580 what they were sort of

00:15:04.360 talking about in that clip?

00:15:05.420 And then I'd love

00:15:05.900 to get your thoughts

00:15:06.520 on where we stand

00:15:07.140 on all things

00:15:07.700 tariffs and reconciliation.

00:15:10.480 Oh, yeah.

00:15:11.120 Just a few soft topics

00:15:12.520 to talk about today, right?

00:15:14.100 So I'll start with the Fed.

00:15:15.720 Look, I agree with you.

00:15:16.900 I hate the Fed.

00:15:18.040 I would get rid of the Fed.

00:15:19.480 Here's the important thing

00:15:20.360 to keep in mind about this.

00:15:21.840 The Federal Reserve

00:15:23.240 is the getaway car driver

00:15:25.060 for the federal government's

00:15:26.780 deficits and tax policies.

00:15:28.880 So if you think of it like this,

00:15:29.960 the federal government,

00:15:30.840 when it spends,

00:15:32.000 when it taxes,

00:15:33.000 when it runs deficits,

00:15:34.220 it steals that money

00:15:35.400 from hardworking

00:15:36.260 American families.

00:15:37.700 And then the question is,

00:15:39.140 do you feel that burden

00:15:40.600 as more money

00:15:41.740 coming out of your paycheck,

00:15:43.140 as fewer jobs opportunities

00:15:45.300 or as lower wage growth?

00:15:46.720 Or do you feel that

00:15:48.580 as inflation?

00:15:49.800 It's the Fed's decision

00:15:51.140 whether the economy

00:15:52.700 has higher unemployment

00:15:54.000 or higher inflation

00:15:55.560 as a result of government deficit

00:15:57.420 and spending policies.

00:15:58.960 Now, Powell financed

00:16:00.560 every single thing

00:16:01.820 Joe Biden was doing.

00:16:03.300 He didn't have any problems

00:16:04.120 from that.

00:16:04.480 But what you're looking at

00:16:05.640 is a politicized Fed

00:16:07.300 who doesn't want to be

00:16:08.600 the getaway car driver

00:16:09.540 for the federal deficit.

00:16:12.840 And instead,

00:16:13.820 Powell is blaming Trump

00:16:15.040 for everything

00:16:15.780 of the legacy of Biden

00:16:17.420 and decades

00:16:18.320 of government spending.

00:16:19.340 And really,

00:16:19.920 at the end of the day,

00:16:20.720 that is the only thing

00:16:21.800 that was going on

00:16:22.380 in that announcement

00:16:23.060 is Powell just blaming Trump

00:16:25.260 for decades of things

00:16:26.580 he's contributed to

00:16:27.800 and liberals in government

00:16:29.100 have contributed to

00:16:29.660 for decades.

00:16:30.340 That's all that's going on there.

00:16:31.360 Now, look,

00:16:33.520 I've been called,

00:16:34.620 I mean,

00:16:34.880 many things by the media lately,

00:16:36.740 you know,

00:16:37.020 dense, vapid,

00:16:38.760 known for wearing skimpy outfits.

00:16:40.920 That's a Daily Mail special.

00:16:43.180 State media propagandist.

00:16:45.120 But I don't,

00:16:46.320 I like to think

00:16:46.820 I'm intelligent

00:16:47.500 and I just don't quite understand

00:16:49.020 all these people

00:16:49.680 talking about,

00:16:50.500 you know,

00:16:50.640 they use the deficit fear porn,

00:16:52.360 how we need to cut spending,

00:16:53.520 cut spending.

00:16:54.220 And then these very same people

00:16:55.980 are then presented the chance

00:16:57.640 to actually do it,

00:16:58.780 choose your vertical,

00:16:59.640 whether it's,

00:17:00.140 you know,

00:17:00.400 Doge,

00:17:00.840 impoundment,

00:17:01.340 take your pick.

00:17:02.640 And then just today,

00:17:03.980 you see them canceling the votes

00:17:05.760 to strip the funding

00:17:07.140 from,

00:17:07.580 for example,

00:17:08.180 USAID,

00:17:09.120 PBS,

00:17:09.600 and NPR,

00:17:10.200 which I think should be

00:17:10.940 the opening salvo,

00:17:12.440 right?

00:17:12.600 That's pretty non-controversial.

00:17:15.720 Am I wrong?

00:17:16.900 And making that analysis,

00:17:18.600 is it really that simple?

00:17:19.920 Is this just pure politicking

00:17:21.720 and lying the fact

00:17:23.040 that most Republicans,

00:17:24.380 I guess on the congressional

00:17:25.200 side of things,

00:17:26.240 just do not want

00:17:27.120 to make these cuts?

00:17:28.100 The deficit talk

00:17:29.040 is much like how they,

00:17:29.900 you know,

00:17:30.000 talk tough on China,

00:17:31.020 but then don't ever really

00:17:32.020 end up actually doing

00:17:32.960 anything about it.

00:17:34.760 Oh,

00:17:35.160 absolutely.

00:17:35.660 You know,

00:17:35.940 I think the only thing

00:17:36.620 that they're actually good

00:17:37.360 at doing is hurling insults.

00:17:39.420 And yes,

00:17:39.700 I know you've been

00:17:40.380 at the other end

00:17:41.900 of the barrel

00:17:42.400 of a lot of what they're doing,

00:17:43.600 but it's really because

00:17:44.520 you're doing a lot

00:17:45.100 of that good media coverage

00:17:46.160 and actually holding a spotlight

00:17:47.600 to what they're doing.

00:17:48.680 And that's exactly it.

00:17:50.080 We all know

00:17:50.840 that when the government

00:17:51.620 spends money,

00:17:52.840 not just as it's stealing

00:17:53.820 from Americans,

00:17:54.700 but think of the programs

00:17:55.780 you just talked about,

00:17:57.020 the Public,

00:17:57.620 the Corporation for Public Broadcasting,

00:17:59.920 NPR.

00:18:00.740 These are funds

00:18:01.560 that are spent

00:18:02.080 to destroy our culture

00:18:03.860 and our values.

00:18:04.460 These are funds spent

00:18:05.480 to push the woke agenda,

00:18:07.240 to push the agenda

00:18:07.980 of mutilating kids

00:18:09.720 through trans surgeries

00:18:11.060 and trying to convince them

00:18:12.520 that they're in the wrong body.

00:18:14.180 Things like that

00:18:14.920 have been financed

00:18:15.620 with your tax dollars.

00:18:17.320 And you're absolutely right.

00:18:18.520 We put these politicians

00:18:19.480 in place.

00:18:20.360 They promise

00:18:21.100 that they'll let us

00:18:21.800 keep the money we've earned.

00:18:23.340 They promise

00:18:24.040 they'll get rid

00:18:24.680 of the deep state.

00:18:25.760 And you're right.

00:18:26.760 Here it is,

00:18:27.560 a real vote,

00:18:28.800 and they voted

00:18:29.460 to keep the deep state.

00:18:31.040 They voted

00:18:31.580 to keep the state propaganda

00:18:33.480 arm going on,

00:18:34.760 the real one.

00:18:35.820 And at the end of the day,

00:18:36.820 I think what we all know here

00:18:38.040 is that the government

00:18:39.180 is run by people

00:18:40.120 who like concentrated benefits

00:18:42.140 at the expense

00:18:43.220 of diffused costs.

00:18:44.840 They will push the cost

00:18:45.780 onto you,

00:18:46.860 the average American,

00:18:47.860 so that they can benefit

00:18:49.060 their friends,

00:18:49.760 their donors,

00:18:50.300 and as you pointed out,

00:18:51.440 the people that invite them

00:18:52.400 to swanky cocktail parties.

00:18:55.920 And it seems like there's,

00:18:57.500 at least today,

00:18:58.220 it's kind of breaking

00:18:58.820 us out early this morning.

00:18:59.840 In Politico,

00:19:00.380 they had the exclusive,

00:19:01.420 it seems like,

00:19:02.480 Chip Roy was sort of,

00:19:04.120 you know,

00:19:04.440 talking his five requests

00:19:06.160 to Speaker Johnson

00:19:07.920 or the reconciliation request.

00:19:09.640 Can you sort of walk us through?

00:19:11.000 I know we're in sort of

00:19:11.620 the beginning stages,

00:19:13.280 perhaps the fog of war

00:19:14.580 on a lot of these negotiations.

00:19:16.800 But first and foremost,

00:19:17.960 sort of where we stand,

00:19:19.380 but what you think

00:19:19.960 our audience needs to stay,

00:19:21.780 you know,

00:19:22.120 very clear-eyed and frosty

00:19:23.980 in terms of looking for,

00:19:25.160 like you were saying,

00:19:26.080 these, you know,

00:19:26.760 the idea,

00:19:27.260 what was it,

00:19:27.680 the CR,

00:19:28.260 that you had to vote

00:19:28.960 for the CR

00:19:29.560 because otherwise

00:19:30.100 we won't have election integrity.

00:19:31.840 Really, Mike Johnson?

00:19:32.720 Then where were you

00:19:33.760 on your first day as Speaker?

00:19:34.880 I think you're voting

00:19:35.480 for more Ukraine-aid.

00:19:36.960 But just walk us through

00:19:37.960 where we stand on this,

00:19:39.640 I guess,

00:19:40.100 horse race

00:19:40.540 when it comes to reconciliation.

00:19:41.740 Well, I think you're right.

00:19:44.280 The horse that always wins the race

00:19:45.720 is Ukraine-aid.

00:19:47.060 So always watch out

00:19:47.840 for that one, right?

00:19:49.060 But, yeah,

00:19:49.800 beyond that,

00:19:50.480 look, I think the important things

00:19:51.580 about reconciliation

00:19:52.280 and the way I've been saying this is,

00:19:54.320 you know,

00:19:54.600 normally to get a major bill passed,

00:19:56.720 you need 60 votes in the Senate.

00:19:59.060 Conservatives only have 50 or 53 at best,

00:20:02.100 depending on how you think about it.

00:20:03.460 But there is one bill

00:20:04.900 that can get through

00:20:05.760 with that kind of a low vote number

00:20:07.280 and it's reconciliation.

00:20:09.260 However,

00:20:09.980 there's only a handful of things

00:20:11.300 you can do in there.

00:20:12.680 So we have to shoot this narrow gap

00:20:15.560 to get all the things

00:20:16.180 we want in the bill.

00:20:17.540 And leadership's using

00:20:19.020 those requirements

00:20:19.880 to say that a lot of things

00:20:20.940 we want to do

00:20:21.500 simply can't be in there.

00:20:23.420 But to go through

00:20:23.980 the bullet points

00:20:24.680 of what conservatives

00:20:26.120 are calling for,

00:20:26.900 what's important,

00:20:27.960 is that this bill

00:20:28.680 is a perfect opportunity

00:20:29.780 to actually secure the border,

00:20:31.780 to deport millions of illegals,

00:20:33.280 to make sure

00:20:34.080 that those resources

00:20:35.300 are available.

00:20:36.000 Then there's an important ability here

00:20:38.800 to put money down

00:20:39.800 to restore national defense,

00:20:41.860 to rebuild a military

00:20:43.240 that's been gutted

00:20:44.120 by the Biden administration

00:20:45.200 that Trump wasn't able

00:20:46.440 to reinvest in

00:20:47.260 after Obama the first time.

00:20:49.420 And then there's an ability here,

00:20:51.140 there's an opportunity

00:20:52.060 to deregulate our energy production,

00:20:54.960 to make it easier

00:20:55.700 to build factories.

00:20:56.860 You know, right now,

00:20:58.080 there are mines

00:20:58.960 in the United States

00:21:00.160 who have been waiting

00:21:01.560 for permits to expand

00:21:03.000 for 35 years,

00:21:05.840 not five, not 10, 35.

00:21:08.540 And so if we can do

00:21:09.940 that kind of permitting

00:21:11.100 and regulatory reform

00:21:12.360 and reconciliation,

00:21:13.640 we can expand the economy

00:21:15.100 and grow like you've never seen.

00:21:16.860 And then the last two points,

00:21:18.120 and these are important,

00:21:19.220 is we can use it

00:21:20.020 to cut taxes,

00:21:20.920 to extend Trump's tax cuts,

00:21:22.560 and to cut spending.

00:21:24.280 And you're absolutely right.

00:21:25.520 It's the cutting spending part of that

00:21:27.120 that's in jeopardy

00:21:27.960 as these members

00:21:28.540 don't really want to

00:21:29.680 take on the challenge.

00:21:30.460 And then we have to keep

00:21:31.680 the pressure on them

00:21:32.580 to really use

00:21:33.600 all the opportunities

00:21:34.300 on the table here.

00:21:36.800 And obviously,

00:21:37.680 this is all sort of

00:21:38.980 inextricably linked

00:21:40.040 on the tariff front, too.

00:21:41.540 I think, you know,

00:21:42.160 you hear these people talk

00:21:43.260 about how they want

00:21:44.000 nice, good-paying

00:21:44.800 manufacturing jobs

00:21:45.920 in their district

00:21:46.960 and how the supply chain threat

00:21:48.700 that the Chinese Communist Party poses,

00:21:50.800 all of which are valid

00:21:52.380 and we actually support

00:21:53.860 here in the war room.

00:21:54.780 But then when push comes to shove,

00:21:57.140 you don't really,

00:21:57.940 you know,

00:21:58.180 it's kind of crickets, right?

00:21:59.180 You don't see a lot of people

00:22:00.120 hitting the airwaves

00:22:00.800 defending them.

00:22:02.300 Your thoughts on where we stand

00:22:03.940 on sort of the ongoing

00:22:05.040 tariff negotiations,

00:22:06.540 which I guess I would

00:22:07.200 compartmentalize

00:22:08.500 one into the China camp,

00:22:10.900 CCP, PRC camp,

00:22:12.140 and then secondly,

00:22:13.300 kind of everyone else

00:22:14.620 just more broadly

00:22:15.480 reorienting trade

00:22:16.740 with a, you know,

00:22:17.340 non-nefarious

00:22:18.080 seeking to replace

00:22:18.860 the United States

00:22:19.480 as a global hegemon-type enemy.

00:22:22.460 Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:23.820 Well, and I would say

00:22:24.480 that, you know,

00:22:24.820 to your point on that one,

00:22:25.680 it's a little linked as well

00:22:26.960 because a lot of the negotiations

00:22:28.420 with these other countries

00:22:29.520 and, you know,

00:22:30.100 keep in mind,

00:22:30.740 you've talked about it before,

00:22:32.220 a lot of these other countries

00:22:33.300 we trade with,

00:22:33.940 they have their own trade barriers,

00:22:35.680 they prevent our exporters,

00:22:37.200 they steal our IP.

00:22:39.020 But the other thing is

00:22:39.800 a lot of them allow

00:22:40.640 the Chinese government

00:22:41.640 and the Communist Party

00:22:42.920 to buy their infrastructure,

00:22:44.540 to have Huawei

00:22:45.260 set up that infrastructure,

00:22:47.040 to funnel Chinese products

00:22:48.460 through their country

00:22:49.360 into the United States.

00:22:50.860 So I think that Trump

00:22:52.320 is doing a good job here

00:22:53.340 in terms of the negotiations

00:22:54.460 broadly with countries

00:22:56.060 to try to get some real wins.

00:22:58.060 With China in particular,

00:22:59.200 I think it's still very much,

00:23:00.440 you know,

00:23:01.280 the jury's out on this one.

00:23:03.220 We'll see exactly

00:23:04.100 what deals we get.

00:23:05.420 But I think it's crucial

00:23:06.400 that we go in

00:23:07.040 with the right thing.

00:23:08.040 So I think the president's

00:23:09.220 very committed

00:23:09.800 to dealing with the threat of China,

00:23:11.760 to boxing them

00:23:12.720 out of global affairs.

00:23:14.480 But, you know,

00:23:14.820 there are other people around him

00:23:16.220 who are, I think,

00:23:17.320 being distracted

00:23:18.040 by other issues

00:23:18.980 who are taking their eye

00:23:19.860 off the ball

00:23:20.680 of making sure

00:23:21.800 that we stop

00:23:22.320 not just China directly,

00:23:23.780 but stop the indirect access

00:23:25.820 from China

00:23:26.480 through these other countries

00:23:28.080 that are our trade partners.

00:23:29.760 So, again,

00:23:30.500 like Trump's always,

00:23:31.440 he's the negotiator-in-chief,

00:23:32.500 he's doing a good job,

00:23:33.600 but we need to make sure

00:23:34.260 we keep our eye

00:23:34.900 trained on the ball.

00:23:36.280 China's the real threat here,

00:23:37.460 not just us directly,

00:23:38.660 but the empire

00:23:39.680 they're trying to build around

00:23:40.720 with our trade partners.

00:23:43.900 Rich Stern, as always,

00:23:45.460 thank you so much

00:23:46.180 for distilling this

00:23:47.640 and breaking it all down.

00:23:48.620 Not for our audience,

00:23:49.600 I'm sure they can hang,

00:23:50.640 but at least for me.

00:23:52.060 If people want to follow you,

00:23:53.640 stay up to date

00:23:54.200 with everything

00:23:54.820 that you're working on,

00:23:55.800 write in,

00:23:56.260 tweeting about

00:23:56.680 where can they go to do that.

00:23:58.480 Well, I appreciate that,

00:23:59.640 being on, as always.

00:24:00.480 Thank you for having me.

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00:24:08.640 So, always a pleasure again.

00:24:09.700 Thank you.

00:24:11.420 Thank you, sir.

00:24:12.040 I think that's probably

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00:24:15.320 shall we say,

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00:24:30.120 and the team,

00:24:31.400 great guys,

00:24:32.400 over there a call.

00:24:34.200 And I just have to say,

00:24:35.400 on the idea of negotiating,

00:24:37.720 I think Rich sort of got to it,

00:24:39.180 the idea that you have people

00:24:40.480 who are,

00:24:41.280 I guess he described it

00:24:42.240 as maybe a little,

00:24:43.280 you know,

00:24:43.500 off their game,

00:24:44.420 not focusing on the China stuff.

00:24:45.920 Well, I would posit

00:24:46.840 that that's people

00:24:47.780 who have been paid off

00:24:49.680 and captured,

00:24:50.960 if not outright merged,

00:24:52.060 with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:24:53.760 And this is why

00:24:54.560 I love working in the war room

00:24:55.740 because I just look to my right

00:24:57.940 and there's a copy

00:24:58.900 of Unrestricted Warfare,

00:25:01.180 translated, of course,

00:25:02.540 from the original PLA documents

00:25:04.060 about how the Chinese Communist Party

00:25:06.080 has waged a people's war

00:25:07.480 against the United States

00:25:08.500 for so long,

00:25:10.280 which I guess K Street

00:25:11.900 neocon globalists

00:25:13.500 love to sneer in my face

00:25:16.480 and laugh and say,

00:25:17.560 well, why would you want

00:25:18.860 to then cut USAID?

00:25:20.560 Soft power is so important.

00:25:22.500 To which I would say,

00:25:23.800 well, considering that 90%

00:25:25.480 of Africa is on the Belt and Road,

00:25:28.140 I don't think United States

00:25:29.560 soft power is doing all too well.

00:25:32.980 And considering that

00:25:33.840 when we hurl tariffs

00:25:35.260 against, like I said,

00:25:37.300 a evil authoritarian state capitalism,

00:25:40.480 maybe I'll just call it Marxist

00:25:41.640 because that's what it is,

00:25:42.520 regime that has repeatedly

00:25:43.740 not just declared war,

00:25:45.180 kinetic information,

00:25:46.260 economic warfare, lawfare,

00:25:47.920 and otherwise against

00:25:48.980 the United States

00:25:49.840 when we try to reclaim

00:25:51.100 some of our fiscal sovereignty

00:25:52.760 or, I don't know,

00:25:53.600 actual territorial sovereignty.

00:25:55.020 I'm inclined to bring up

00:25:56.220 the Chinese spy balloon

00:25:58.300 or, I don't know,

00:25:58.960 maybe just reparations for COVID

00:26:00.540 instead of, what,

00:26:02.420 the entire business community

00:26:03.960 and Wall Street elite saying,

00:26:05.800 yeah, we love

00:26:06.460 the war room strapline.

00:26:07.660 Let's get some

00:26:08.180 of our sovereignty back.

00:26:10.040 No, they're basically puppets.

00:26:11.800 If not, I would maybe

00:26:12.780 call them prostitutes

00:26:14.160 for none other than Xi Jinping.

00:26:17.340 Some good old capture,

00:26:19.520 some good old elite merger.

00:26:22.540 It's not a conspiracy.

00:26:23.600 You should look up

00:26:24.340 the United Front Work Department.

00:26:25.880 It's the multi-billion dollar

00:26:27.180 political warfare operation

00:26:28.600 that Beijing runs.

00:26:29.680 They train their analysts

00:26:31.480 how to essentially infiltrate

00:26:33.160 Western politicians,

00:26:34.940 political systems,

00:26:36.120 and I'm, of course,

00:26:37.140 excluding the Ministry

00:26:38.040 of State Security,

00:26:39.500 which is just straight up,

00:26:40.920 you know, humanent,

00:26:42.440 or rather humanent,

00:26:43.740 sigent,

00:26:44.160 all those good things

00:26:45.060 that they're collecting on us

00:26:46.220 every single day.

00:26:48.520 TikTok probably being

00:26:49.600 the least offensive example

00:26:51.060 of all that.

00:26:52.280 Maybe if we have time

00:26:53.460 after our next guest

00:26:54.260 who has a wonderful,

00:26:54.960 exclusive story

00:26:55.980 about missing migrant children,

00:26:57.340 we will get into,

00:26:59.260 I just love this book,

00:27:00.240 some more unrestricted warfare,

00:27:01.640 and I will make the case

00:27:02.740 as to why we need to deport

00:27:03.840 not just some,

00:27:04.960 but every single,

00:27:06.620 not just, frankly,

00:27:07.480 illegal Chinese national,

00:27:09.000 but Chinese student

00:27:10.440 on our college campuses.

00:27:12.900 Certainly,

00:27:14.540 the state subsidized,

00:27:15.620 the federally subsidized ones.

00:27:17.800 I'll make you wait

00:27:18.620 until after the break for that.

00:27:19.860 We will be right back.

00:27:20.820 Brianna Morello

00:27:21.400 joining us

00:27:22.020 after this short break.

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00:31:15.480 Welcome back

00:31:30.000 to The War Room

00:31:31.580 where I really like

00:31:32.640 the idea

00:31:33.080 that I came up with

00:31:33.860 earlier in the show

00:31:35.000 when these Republican senators

00:31:37.140 like I'm looking

00:31:38.060 at you James Lankford

00:31:39.300 the people who think

00:31:40.080 that what 5,000

00:31:41.040 illegal aliens

00:31:41.760 passing,

00:31:42.820 breaching the border

00:31:43.440 a day

00:31:43.860 is somehow

00:31:44.440 deserving

00:31:45.040 of the title

00:31:45.700 border security bill.

00:31:48.080 Maybe it was

00:31:48.460 what,

00:31:48.700 Nora O'Donnell's

00:31:49.420 husband

00:31:49.700 who came up

00:31:50.840 with that one

00:31:51.340 while he's busy

00:31:51.800 hiring illegal aliens

00:31:52.840 while his wife

00:31:53.400 is pumping

00:31:53.860 pro-open borders

00:31:55.000 propaganda

00:31:55.620 on CBS.

00:31:57.240 That's quite

00:31:57.740 the odd couple

00:31:58.740 shall we say.

00:32:00.880 I've never heard

00:32:01.520 these people

00:32:02.000 call for due process

00:32:03.120 when it comes

00:32:03.720 to anything

00:32:04.100 going on

00:32:04.720 in Ukraine

00:32:05.260 and Russia

00:32:05.820 because it's

00:32:06.420 an invasion,

00:32:07.120 right?

00:32:07.340 So you can,

00:32:08.000 I guess last time

00:32:08.820 we called for

00:32:09.320 suspending habeas corpus

00:32:10.580 that didn't go

00:32:11.740 over too well

00:32:12.720 with the legacy media.

00:32:13.720 So I guess

00:32:14.880 we'll double down

00:32:15.580 on that.

00:32:16.380 But it is quite

00:32:16.940 interesting when they

00:32:17.800 say that these

00:32:18.340 illegal aliens

00:32:19.040 are awarded due

00:32:19.920 process.

00:32:20.360 It's so important

00:32:21.660 that James Lankford

00:32:22.580 has to go on

00:32:23.280 legacy media outlets

00:32:24.400 and demand that.

00:32:25.680 I think it's a quite

00:32:26.940 a tacit admission

00:32:28.020 showing that these

00:32:29.320 people do not

00:32:29.980 understand that

00:32:31.180 what happened

00:32:31.700 under Joe Biden

00:32:32.640 was a state-sponsored

00:32:34.380 and state-sanctioned

00:32:35.720 in some cases

00:32:36.360 foreign involvement

00:32:37.360 to through NGOs,

00:32:38.800 the UN,

00:32:39.220 take your pick,

00:32:40.280 invasion.

00:32:40.760 and these

00:32:42.380 people need

00:32:42.980 to be expelled.

00:32:46.280 Maybe we can

00:32:46.820 apply the standards

00:32:48.020 of due process

00:32:48.860 and rule of law

00:32:49.760 from the countries

00:32:51.260 that they're

00:32:51.700 hailing from,

00:32:52.620 although I don't

00:32:53.180 know how many

00:32:53.720 of them even

00:32:54.240 have written

00:32:54.740 constitutions.

00:32:56.320 I digress on

00:32:57.380 that point.

00:32:58.240 We are joined,

00:32:58.980 or I guess

00:32:59.320 actually I don't

00:32:59.900 digress,

00:33:00.360 because speaking

00:33:00.800 exactly of that,

00:33:02.980 the, shall we

00:33:03.720 say, remnants

00:33:04.840 of Joe Biden's

00:33:06.260 horrible,

00:33:07.040 I thought you

00:33:07.520 maybe thought

00:33:08.140 I was going

00:33:08.420 to say Afghanistan

00:33:09.140 withdrawal,

00:33:09.640 but no,

00:33:10.060 in this case,

00:33:11.040 southern border

00:33:12.380 policies leading

00:33:14.100 to what,

00:33:14.760 100,000

00:33:15.880 unaccounted

00:33:16.500 migrant children,

00:33:17.500 where I guess

00:33:17.940 we just don't

00:33:18.520 know where

00:33:19.760 they went.

00:33:21.160 Brianna Morello

00:33:21.940 has some

00:33:22.360 exclusive reporting.

00:33:23.560 She's an

00:33:23.880 intrepid reporter.

00:33:24.660 She's obviously

00:33:25.120 been on Warren

00:33:25.860 before.

00:33:26.300 You've certainly

00:33:26.620 seen her all

00:33:27.240 over X,

00:33:28.000 but she reached

00:33:28.580 out to try

00:33:29.060 to get the

00:33:29.400 numbers of how

00:33:30.700 many of these

00:33:31.140 children have

00:33:31.900 been, you know,

00:33:32.720 at the very least

00:33:33.360 found, let alone

00:33:34.080 reunited with their

00:33:35.260 families.

00:33:36.420 She joins us

00:33:37.360 now.

00:33:37.580 I want her

00:33:37.920 to break

00:33:38.320 down her

00:33:39.440 bombshell report.

00:33:41.400 I won't bury

00:33:42.560 the lead.

00:33:42.920 I'll let you

00:33:43.220 give the number

00:33:43.820 because it's

00:33:44.760 quite staggering.

00:33:46.240 Well, thank you,

00:33:46.980 Natalie.

00:33:47.220 It's always a

00:33:47.540 pleasure to be

00:33:47.880 with you.

00:33:48.520 Yeah, it is

00:33:49.320 staggering.

00:33:50.040 As you know,

00:33:50.720 and your audience

00:33:51.160 is well aware of,

00:33:52.440 Joe Biden lost

00:33:53.240 over 300,000

00:33:54.920 unaccompanied

00:33:55.640 migrant children,

00:33:56.540 and now it's up

00:33:58.220 to the Trump

00:33:58.600 administration to

00:33:59.300 find those kids.

00:34:00.760 Sadly, they're

00:34:01.420 really struggling

00:34:02.000 with doing just

00:34:02.740 that.

00:34:03.100 HSI, according

00:34:05.360 to my source,

00:34:06.160 has only been

00:34:06.560 able to locate

00:34:07.080 about 5% of

00:34:09.380 the 100,000

00:34:10.660 kids that

00:34:11.180 they've been

00:34:11.600 looking for.

00:34:12.680 Now, I reached

00:34:13.120 out to DHS

00:34:13.760 on this and

00:34:15.340 to see if they

00:34:15.780 had any matching

00:34:16.480 statistics, and

00:34:17.120 they kind of did

00:34:18.160 confirm it, telling

00:34:19.000 me that they

00:34:19.280 were able to

00:34:20.340 reconnect about

00:34:21.300 5,000 unaccompanied

00:34:23.100 migrant children

00:34:23.900 to a guardian

00:34:25.440 so far.

00:34:26.800 So, again,

00:34:27.160 that's just 5%.

00:34:28.760 Now, if you're

00:34:29.520 wondering why

00:34:30.420 that is, well,

00:34:32.000 unfortunately,

00:34:32.960 the Biden

00:34:33.220 administration

00:34:33.800 didn't seem to

00:34:34.780 care when it

00:34:35.580 came to

00:34:36.200 verifying who

00:34:37.440 they were handing

00:34:37.880 these children

00:34:38.320 off to.

00:34:39.000 And we know

00:34:39.440 that.

00:34:39.780 We've heard

00:34:40.180 this before.

00:34:41.340 Whistleblowers

00:34:41.740 came forward

00:34:42.700 to report that.

00:34:44.160 But sadly,

00:34:45.600 nobody really

00:34:46.160 did much about

00:34:46.820 it.

00:34:47.260 As you just

00:34:47.780 mentioned, we

00:34:48.240 have a lot of

00:34:48.820 rhinos in the

00:34:49.420 Senate, and

00:34:50.220 they look the

00:34:50.660 other way on

00:34:51.240 this issue.

00:34:52.980 So what DHS

00:34:53.900 and HSI is

00:34:55.300 dealing with right

00:34:55.920 now is they've

00:34:57.060 been given

00:34:57.700 fraudulent

00:34:58.300 addresses, and

00:34:59.380 it's in regards

00:34:59.980 to where

00:35:00.380 those children

00:35:00.900 were going

00:35:01.380 to be sent

00:35:02.000 to when they

00:35:03.220 did some

00:35:03.600 digging and

00:35:04.020 tried to

00:35:04.320 check up

00:35:04.720 on these

00:35:05.020 kids.

00:35:05.960 Well, in a

00:35:06.300 lot of cases,

00:35:06.780 these addresses

00:35:07.380 didn't even

00:35:07.900 exist.

00:35:08.800 There's no

00:35:09.100 houses there.

00:35:10.360 It was

00:35:10.520 something simple

00:35:11.060 that the

00:35:11.340 Biden

00:35:11.480 administration

00:35:11.940 could have

00:35:12.480 looked into,

00:35:13.020 but they

00:35:13.180 decided not

00:35:13.820 to.

00:35:14.780 And I'm

00:35:14.980 also told

00:35:15.400 by my

00:35:15.720 sources that

00:35:16.500 a lot of

00:35:16.940 these sponsors

00:35:17.680 were poorly

00:35:18.820 vetted by

00:35:20.040 the Biden

00:35:20.360 regime.

00:35:21.080 But it's

00:35:21.640 really not

00:35:22.080 surprising,

00:35:22.760 Natalie.

00:35:23.080 I mean,

00:35:23.260 you and I

00:35:23.660 have spoken

00:35:24.000 about it.

00:35:24.540 We knew

00:35:24.940 what was

00:35:25.240 happening for

00:35:25.980 a very long

00:35:26.700 time right

00:35:27.300 now, and

00:35:27.700 that was

00:35:28.220 the Biden

00:35:28.920 administration

00:35:29.480 was participating

00:35:30.460 in one of

00:35:30.820 the biggest

00:35:32.640 human trafficking

00:35:34.160 scandals.

00:35:35.680 It's going to

00:35:36.060 be a black

00:35:36.420 eye in American

00:35:36.880 history, and

00:35:37.320 it's very,

00:35:37.680 very unfortunate,

00:35:38.560 of course.

00:35:39.140 But again,

00:35:40.160 none of these

00:35:40.680 people are going

00:35:41.160 to be held

00:35:41.440 accountable.

00:35:42.760 We're constantly

00:35:43.640 being critical

00:35:44.580 of the Biden

00:35:45.360 administration,

00:35:46.600 but there's

00:35:47.020 very little

00:35:47.660 being done

00:35:48.440 on all of

00:35:48.960 this, and

00:35:49.240 it's absolutely

00:35:49.780 heartbreaking

00:35:50.320 because we

00:35:50.580 don't know

00:35:50.840 where these

00:35:51.100 kids are,

00:35:52.220 but a lot of

00:35:52.640 experts believe

00:35:53.360 that these kids

00:35:53.900 are either being

00:35:54.600 sex trafficked

00:35:55.540 or they're being

00:35:56.260 used for slave

00:35:57.060 labor.

00:35:57.700 And, you

00:35:58.780 know, I

00:35:59.280 know, Democrats

00:36:00.160 love slave

00:36:01.120 labor.

00:36:01.640 They've actually

00:36:02.060 advocated for a

00:36:02.920 lot of these

00:36:03.300 illegal aliens

00:36:04.200 to be placed

00:36:05.320 on these farms

00:36:06.060 to work for

00:36:06.820 cheap labor.

00:36:08.120 Democrats, again,

00:36:09.080 going back to

00:36:09.600 their roots of

00:36:10.060 slavery, of

00:36:10.660 course, but

00:36:11.300 it's absolutely

00:36:12.880 heartbreaking because

00:36:14.160 there's a lot of

00:36:14.600 great people over

00:36:15.320 at HSI, and

00:36:16.500 they really want

00:36:17.300 to help find

00:36:18.020 these children,

00:36:19.040 but unfortunately

00:36:19.760 they don't have

00:36:20.620 the material to

00:36:21.200 do just that

00:36:21.760 because they were

00:36:22.220 intentionally

00:36:22.580 given false

00:36:23.260 information.

00:36:23.760 So you say

00:36:26.820 intentionally

00:36:27.420 given false

00:36:28.240 information,

00:36:28.960 between that,

00:36:30.100 the improper

00:36:30.700 vetting, these

00:36:31.540 fraudulent

00:36:32.100 addresses, do

00:36:33.100 you think that

00:36:33.560 this is something

00:36:34.220 that can be

00:36:34.960 more accurately

00:36:36.240 categorized as a

00:36:37.520 result of

00:36:38.220 incompetence, or

00:36:39.180 do you think

00:36:39.540 there's some

00:36:40.240 level of

00:36:40.860 orchestration and

00:36:41.900 intentionality

00:36:42.860 behind it,

00:36:44.280 whether it's,

00:36:44.820 you know, labor,

00:36:45.520 human trafficking,

00:36:46.280 child trafficking,

00:36:47.220 sex trafficking,

00:36:48.140 what either, you

00:36:48.760 know, you think,

00:36:49.720 or what is your

00:36:50.160 reporting, or your

00:36:50.840 sources led you

00:36:52.440 to believe?

00:36:54.080 Well, Natalie, I

00:36:54.500 have to say that

00:36:54.960 this was intentional

00:36:55.580 at this point,

00:36:56.140 because when you

00:36:56.600 look back at who

00:36:57.620 came forward to

00:36:58.400 report this years

00:36:59.380 ago, it's people

00:37:00.120 like DHS

00:37:00.940 whistleblower Aaron

00:37:01.960 Stevenson, who

00:37:03.300 said that he was

00:37:04.020 well aware, and

00:37:04.960 DHS was well aware

00:37:06.040 under the Biden

00:37:06.480 administration, that

00:37:07.760 these children were

00:37:08.660 being shuffled off

00:37:09.580 to likely the

00:37:10.380 cartels, and they

00:37:11.500 were being trafficked

00:37:12.320 here, and he tried

00:37:12.960 his very best to

00:37:13.920 come out and speak

00:37:15.220 out on this issue,

00:37:16.240 but the mainstream

00:37:16.720 media never covered

00:37:17.440 it, and all of his

00:37:19.180 efforts really kind of

00:37:20.260 just fell.

00:37:21.600 Nobody wanted to

00:37:22.360 pick up the pieces

00:37:22.860 and help them

00:37:23.360 out.

00:37:23.540 I know there was

00:37:23.880 a couple of

00:37:24.320 members in the

00:37:24.880 GOP who did

00:37:26.320 actively sound

00:37:27.260 interested in this,

00:37:28.560 but nobody did

00:37:29.780 anything.

00:37:30.680 This was all

00:37:31.100 preventable, so we

00:37:32.600 could sit here and

00:37:33.260 say that, yes, maybe

00:37:34.100 this was incompetency,

00:37:35.340 but that's letting

00:37:35.920 them off easy.

00:37:36.960 I believe this was

00:37:37.700 intentional.

00:37:38.780 There's no way they

00:37:39.660 didn't understand what

00:37:40.360 was going on.

00:37:41.060 They had several

00:37:41.840 instances where they

00:37:42.580 could have just shut

00:37:43.020 this all down, and

00:37:44.080 they chose not to.

00:37:45.460 I'll give you another

00:37:46.100 example.

00:37:46.620 As many of you guys

00:37:47.220 at home are well

00:37:47.880 aware, during

00:37:48.820 President Trump's

00:37:49.460 first term, he was

00:37:50.820 conducting DNA

00:37:51.900 testing, and he

00:37:52.800 was trying to test

00:37:54.640 the DNA of these

00:37:56.100 migrant children to

00:37:57.560 make sure as they

00:37:58.060 were coming over as

00:37:58.840 family units that

00:38:00.320 they actually did

00:38:01.560 belong with the

00:38:02.460 adults who were

00:38:03.080 bringing them in.

00:38:04.340 Now, unfortunately,

00:38:05.220 Joe Biden decided to

00:38:06.120 stop all of that, and

00:38:08.280 he put an end to it.

00:38:09.660 And so what happened

00:38:10.300 as a result of that?

00:38:11.200 Well, how many

00:38:12.620 children were passed

00:38:13.260 off to people that

00:38:13.920 weren't their family

00:38:14.500 members?

00:38:15.320 How many children

00:38:16.120 were shuffled into

00:38:16.840 this country with

00:38:17.800 fake family units, and

00:38:19.440 they weren't family

00:38:19.960 units at all?

00:38:20.520 These kids needed

00:38:21.060 our assistance.

00:38:22.420 So, yes, at some

00:38:23.460 point, we have to be

00:38:24.180 honest and say that

00:38:25.140 Joe Biden intentionally

00:38:26.200 set these kids up.

00:38:27.520 Now, obviously, you

00:38:28.120 and I both know he

00:38:28.720 wasn't running the

00:38:29.140 White House at the

00:38:29.960 time, so it's the

00:38:30.900 people behind him who

00:38:31.920 are really involved in

00:38:32.700 this.

00:38:33.340 But I think it's one

00:38:34.100 of the many reasons

00:38:34.800 why they're going so

00:38:35.620 aggressively hard on

00:38:36.880 people like Ed

00:38:37.520 Martin, who's been

00:38:38.280 nominated for the U.S.

00:38:39.300 attorney for D.C.

00:38:40.560 They don't want you to

00:38:41.520 figure out how deep

00:38:42.260 this swamp goes and to

00:38:43.380 see who is really

00:38:43.860 calling the shots

00:38:44.460 behind all of this.

00:38:45.200 And people like Ed

00:38:46.360 Martin are the

00:38:46.820 individuals who will

00:38:47.500 get us to that point

00:38:48.300 where we find out

00:38:48.960 these answers.

00:38:51.340 Yeah, I mean, where

00:38:52.080 is the due process?

00:38:53.180 That's the word I've

00:38:53.800 been hearing a lot

00:38:54.480 lately for all of

00:38:55.500 these children.

00:38:56.960 I guess they didn't,

00:38:58.180 they weren't afforded

00:38:58.960 any.

00:38:59.180 I'm curious, though,

00:38:59.800 you know, this is an

00:39:00.400 issue that you would

00:39:01.060 think, maybe naively,

00:39:03.320 that the legacy media

00:39:04.760 would be all over.

00:39:05.720 I mean, they've

00:39:06.220 certainly shown their

00:39:07.420 willingness to cover

00:39:08.400 immigration, particularly

00:39:10.380 unaccompanied minor

00:39:11.740 children or unaccompanied

00:39:13.140 minors under the, you

00:39:14.140 know, Trump won, right?

00:39:15.200 We heard the, what

00:39:16.020 was it, the fear porn

00:39:16.840 every night, the kids

00:39:17.840 in the cages, the kids

00:39:18.720 in the cages.

00:39:19.660 So they'll cover it if

00:39:20.600 they can attack Trump.

00:39:21.440 But I haven't really

00:39:22.000 heard much about this,

00:39:22.900 at least under Joe

00:39:23.540 Biden or, you know,

00:39:24.400 President Trump's

00:39:24.980 efforts to get these

00:39:25.760 kids back and sort of

00:39:26.860 their, you know,

00:39:27.420 unsuccessful efforts

00:39:28.400 because of the

00:39:28.920 stonewalling from Joe

00:39:30.560 Biden.

00:39:31.000 Why do you think that

00:39:32.080 is?

00:39:32.280 Why do you think

00:39:32.680 there's such a media

00:39:33.360 blackout?

00:39:34.960 Yeah, they were all

00:39:35.740 in line with this.

00:39:36.460 They didn't want to

00:39:36.820 call out the Biden

00:39:37.480 regime for what they

00:39:38.260 were doing to this

00:39:38.820 country.

00:39:39.860 Key characters, like you

00:39:40.860 just mentioned, AOC.

00:39:41.760 She loved her overly

00:39:43.640 dramatic photo

00:39:45.040 opportunity in front

00:39:46.020 of that fence where

00:39:47.560 she was facing a

00:39:48.100 parking lot, but you

00:39:48.860 wouldn't tell that

00:39:49.600 from the images

00:39:50.520 itself.

00:39:51.500 But all of them just

00:39:52.880 loved to sit here and

00:39:54.140 pretend like President

00:39:55.340 Trump was separating

00:39:56.240 families at the time

00:39:57.280 and it was very

00:39:57.820 convenient.

00:39:58.820 But how many families

00:39:59.900 were separated under

00:40:00.680 Joe Biden when

00:40:01.600 children were

00:40:02.400 potentially kidnapped

00:40:03.160 from their parents and

00:40:04.360 taken to the border

00:40:05.160 because, well, these

00:40:06.440 human smugglers wanted

00:40:07.360 to sex traffic them

00:40:08.280 into the United States?

00:40:09.780 That's a legitimate

00:40:10.520 question that we

00:40:11.220 should all be asking

00:40:12.100 because I have a

00:40:13.340 feeling that the

00:40:14.360 numbers are going to

00:40:15.060 be absolutely massive.

00:40:16.340 Now, I'm deeply,

00:40:18.180 deeply concerned that

00:40:19.100 we're not going to be

00:40:19.760 able to find at least

00:40:21.380 half of these children

00:40:22.680 at this point because,

00:40:24.140 you know, this is a

00:40:25.580 cover-up scheme and so

00:40:26.920 many people are

00:40:27.520 involved in this.

00:40:28.440 And I know it's a very

00:40:29.640 uncomfortable topic for

00:40:30.660 so many, but, you

00:40:32.400 know, these children,

00:40:34.380 I've got a lot of

00:40:34.940 questions for.

00:40:35.680 You know, there's a

00:40:36.040 lot of experts who

00:40:36.740 believe that organ

00:40:37.440 harvesting is real and

00:40:38.520 it's happening amongst

00:40:39.200 children.

00:40:40.200 I've had experts on my

00:40:41.140 program who've detailed

00:40:42.120 just that and how these

00:40:43.420 kids are taken from

00:40:44.240 their parents in South

00:40:45.120 America and brought to

00:40:46.080 Mexico and their organs

00:40:47.480 are harvested.

00:40:48.340 So one must wonder if

00:40:49.820 that was also taking

00:40:50.680 place here in the United

00:40:51.520 States.

00:40:52.000 You know, my sources

00:40:52.620 tell me that the organ

00:40:54.020 harvesting angle of all

00:40:55.140 of this, that the United

00:40:55.860 States is one of the

00:40:56.580 biggest consumers of

00:40:58.180 those organs.

00:40:59.360 So again, if they could

00:41:00.080 shuffle these children

00:41:00.900 into our country and do

00:41:02.320 just that, I'm deeply

00:41:03.940 concerned that it took

00:41:04.660 place and we're never

00:41:05.420 going to be able to find

00:41:06.120 these children again.

00:41:07.000 It's just heartbreaking

00:41:08.700 because, again, why were

00:41:10.500 so many people silent on

00:41:11.700 this issue, Natalie?

00:41:13.380 We heard time and time

00:41:14.520 again people coming

00:41:15.320 forward and trying their

00:41:16.240 very best to call

00:41:17.740 attention to this.

00:41:19.260 And sadly, agencies like

00:41:20.500 the FBI were to focus on

00:41:21.880 J6ers and not focus on

00:41:23.300 innocent children who are

00:41:24.820 being shuffled around our

00:41:25.700 country secretively.

00:41:26.800 Pivoting real quick before

00:41:30.500 I let you go, you've done

00:41:31.820 wonderful reporting on

00:41:32.720 that issue, really the

00:41:33.440 only person in the, you

00:41:35.280 know, MAGA of new media

00:41:36.600 press or whatever, however

00:41:37.560 they want to demean us

00:41:38.360 that's willing to ask those

00:41:40.140 questions.

00:41:40.720 Maybe I'll have to ask my

00:41:41.840 White House press corps

00:41:43.300 brothers and sisters why

00:41:45.140 they don't care about

00:41:45.900 missing children.

00:41:47.160 I'm sure they will have

00:41:48.280 wonderful answers for me,

00:41:50.080 but you have another thing

00:41:51.260 made my head blow up, the

00:41:52.940 idea that New York

00:41:54.060 Democrats are now trying to

00:41:55.320 get taxpayers to foot the

00:41:57.800 bill, if I'm getting this

00:41:59.120 right, for Tish James'

00:42:00.480 legal bills for the probe

00:42:02.020 into her potentially

00:42:03.340 fraudulent real estate

00:42:04.520 deals.

00:42:04.840 Am I getting that right?

00:42:06.280 Yes, yes.

00:42:07.100 The New York Post is

00:42:07.960 reporting that New York

00:42:10.040 Democrats, who are very,

00:42:11.340 very sneaky people, are

00:42:12.600 trying to push forward

00:42:13.900 their New York operational

00:42:15.980 budget bill.

00:42:17.360 And in that, there's about

00:42:18.720 $10 million being allocated

00:42:20.920 for any state official, and

00:42:23.700 it's usually only going to

00:42:24.680 be Democrats.

00:42:25.320 Democrats who have

00:42:26.680 reasonable attorney fees

00:42:28.340 and expenses.

00:42:29.120 Now, that $10 million

00:42:29.700 comes from taxpayers, of

00:42:31.140 course.

00:42:31.420 It doesn't come out from

00:42:32.020 their own pockets, and it

00:42:33.860 could be shuffled into

00:42:34.660 anything that they want.

00:42:35.940 So, the New York Post is

00:42:37.360 trying their very best to

00:42:38.500 call attention to this.

00:42:39.660 Now, it wouldn't be the

00:42:40.880 first time Andrew Cuomo

00:42:42.280 also forced taxpayers to

00:42:44.920 foot his legal expenses as

00:42:46.740 well.

00:42:47.640 So, it's not very

00:42:48.900 surprising, of course, that

00:42:50.640 they're trying to do this

00:42:51.540 yet again.

00:42:52.200 New York Democrats are

00:42:54.000 notorious for trying to

00:42:55.560 push forward budget bills

00:42:57.000 without reading them.

00:42:59.420 They did it back in 2018

00:43:00.880 with the 2019 budget bill

00:43:02.440 where they stuffed in

00:43:03.300 criminal justice reform, as

00:43:04.860 they like to call it, when

00:43:06.060 it was really a criminal

00:43:06.720 bill of rights.

00:43:08.020 And in it, pedophiles got

00:43:10.140 more, or alleged pedophiles,

00:43:11.280 it's just they got more

00:43:11.840 rights than their actual

00:43:13.140 victims.

00:43:14.020 If you were caught with

00:43:15.000 child pornography in your

00:43:15.980 possession in New York and

00:43:17.880 you were arrested, you

00:43:19.220 actually weren't taken in.

00:43:20.380 You were given a bench

00:43:21.140 warrant, and that was

00:43:22.540 shuffled into the state's

00:43:23.540 budget.

00:43:24.000 So, what New York State

00:43:25.520 tends to do, and since

00:43:26.900 it's dominated by

00:43:27.500 Democrats, we could say

00:43:28.380 with confidence that this

00:43:29.220 is New York Democrats, is

00:43:30.980 they tend to stuff the

00:43:32.380 worst of the worst things

00:43:33.440 inside of these bills, like

00:43:34.580 you see in D.C., and they

00:43:36.320 rush everyone to vote on

00:43:37.540 it.

00:43:38.100 So, again, not really

00:43:39.380 surprising that they're

00:43:40.080 doing this with Tish

00:43:40.700 James.

00:43:41.160 They know Tish James has a

00:43:42.100 legal battle that she needs

00:43:43.060 to go pay for, and she's

00:43:45.180 not looking to foot the

00:43:45.900 expense, which is so

00:43:46.960 strange because she claims

00:43:47.960 to be a fighter.

00:43:48.580 She claims to be out

00:43:49.860 there fighting for New

00:43:50.920 Yorkers.

00:43:51.680 So, why not fight at your

00:43:53.160 own expense, Ms. Tish

00:43:54.220 James?

00:43:54.840 Strange.

00:43:57.460 Brianna Morello, the one

00:43:59.020 and only, a very

00:44:00.080 intrepid investigative

00:44:01.120 reporter.

00:44:01.680 I wish we had people like

00:44:03.580 you in the White House

00:44:04.560 with me.

00:44:05.360 Where can people go to

00:44:06.540 stay up to date with

00:44:07.120 everything you're working

00:44:07.760 on and follow everything

00:44:09.320 you've got going on?

00:44:10.920 Well, Natalie, we're right

00:44:11.740 by your side every day when

00:44:13.120 you're fighting out there.

00:44:13.820 We appreciate all that you

00:44:14.520 do in the White House.

00:44:15.780 Folks, you can head over to

00:44:16.660 the Independent Newsroom.

00:44:17.660 That is my newsletter.

00:44:19.280 You could sign up over

00:44:19.980 there, and you could find

00:44:20.800 me on X at Brianna

00:44:21.860 Morello.

00:44:23.800 Brianna, thank you so

00:44:24.720 much.

00:44:25.600 Thank you.

00:44:28.940 Warren Posse, I think you

00:44:30.820 guys would probably agree

00:44:32.160 with me.

00:44:32.800 I love the mass

00:44:33.480 deportations.

00:44:34.400 Obviously, we need 10

00:44:35.500 million bare minimum.

00:44:37.100 I'd probably push it closer

00:44:38.100 to 40 because I think

00:44:39.260 that's, what is it, the

00:44:40.440 Bear Stearns analysis

00:44:41.480 shows that that's the

00:44:42.600 probably actual number of

00:44:44.500 illegal aliens living here.

00:44:45.740 It's probably closer to 20

00:44:46.880 million that were let in

00:44:47.720 under Joe Biden.

00:44:49.360 But I think the issue to

00:44:50.640 me is that it's not just

00:44:52.640 about deporting these people

00:44:54.540 who were, you know, to no

00:44:55.840 fault of their own, though I

00:44:57.480 hesitate in using that

00:44:58.440 framing because they still

00:44:59.320 committed crimes by crossing

00:45:01.160 the southern border.

00:45:02.200 Don't worry, I'm not going

00:45:03.360 soft.

00:45:05.140 But it's not as if they came

00:45:07.240 totally on their own accord

00:45:08.380 or their own financing or

00:45:10.320 direction, directionality, I

00:45:12.100 guess.

00:45:12.800 Right.

00:45:13.000 These people were

00:45:13.820 essentially shipped here

00:45:15.820 sort of a, I guess, you

00:45:17.280 know, modern day triangle

00:45:18.880 trade, although maybe

00:45:19.940 instead of a triangle, it's

00:45:21.040 in the scary, what is it,

00:45:22.980 like colored circle that

00:45:24.320 the UN has, all the

00:45:25.560 sustainable development

00:45:26.540 goals.

00:45:27.620 But right, they were

00:45:28.440 brought here, whether it

00:45:29.340 was the foreign NGOs.

00:45:31.100 But when you, you know, hear

00:45:32.560 people say that it was an

00:45:34.020 invasion, that implies that

00:45:35.960 it was orchestrated and

00:45:37.040 coordinated, which it was.

00:45:38.980 And I think I just take

00:45:40.440 issue that while all of

00:45:41.840 this is going on, even

00:45:42.920 while these people are

00:45:43.680 being sent to Seacott, you

00:45:45.560 know, Alejandro Mayorkas is

00:45:48.220 busy out in D.C.

00:45:49.380 having dinner at Nobu.

00:45:50.680 I saw him last week at a

00:45:52.420 bar on Capitol Hill just

00:45:54.000 hanging out with the bros.

00:45:56.120 Those people should be

00:45:57.540 prosecuted for, I mean,

00:45:59.080 murder.

00:46:00.620 Maybe the treason and, you

00:46:02.200 know, whatever, traitor

00:46:03.340 charges can come later.

00:46:05.060 But these people have blood

00:46:06.240 on their hands.

00:46:06.880 And I think that that is the

00:46:08.060 other sort of secondary

00:46:09.380 component to the mass

00:46:11.440 deportation stuff when you

00:46:12.720 talk about accountability.

00:46:14.020 Yes, accountability for

00:46:15.140 these criminal illegal

00:46:16.360 aliens is very important.

00:46:18.820 But accountability, I

00:46:20.020 think, has two sides.

00:46:21.180 And the people who brought

00:46:22.140 them here, who led them

00:46:23.180 here, who funded and

00:46:24.040 incentivized them to come

00:46:25.240 here, I think it's only,

00:46:27.420 shall we use a term, just,

00:46:29.980 perhaps retribution, to have

00:46:33.060 those people be held to

00:46:34.080 account too.

00:46:35.060 And I haven't really seen

00:46:36.360 much movement on that

00:46:37.700 front.

00:46:37.960 I would like, as Steve

00:46:38.840 always says, you know,

00:46:40.420 one name at least of people

00:46:43.700 who were involved in

00:46:44.720 coordinating that.

00:46:45.480 I mean, you're talking

00:46:46.000 about 100,000 missing

00:46:47.480 migrant children.

00:46:49.360 And we still haven't gotten

00:46:50.360 a name on anyone who was

00:46:52.000 involved.

00:46:52.500 I mean, I guess Mayorkas is

00:46:53.600 a name, but that one's a

00:46:54.520 little obvious.

00:46:56.480 But I think the people under

00:46:57.740 him, the bureaucrats behind

00:46:59.260 the scenes, a lot of these

00:47:00.240 NGOs, I'm glad we can strip

00:47:01.980 them of their funding if these

00:47:03.120 radical judges will, you

00:47:04.520 know, let us do that.

00:47:05.680 But I think that it's

00:47:07.320 equally important to actually

00:47:09.280 investigate, because I do

00:47:11.460 think that you could very

00:47:12.300 easily make the case for

00:47:13.500 criminal charges against a

00:47:16.320 lot of these NGOs on the

00:47:17.720 human trafficking, sex

00:47:18.860 trafficking, money laundering,

00:47:20.900 who knows, probably arms

00:47:21.780 trafficking, doing the bidding

00:47:22.880 of cartels, foreign terrorist

00:47:24.520 organization stuff.

00:47:26.600 That's at least my take on the

00:47:28.260 mass deportations.

00:47:29.200 We've got a few minutes left.

00:47:30.360 And like I said, since

00:47:31.620 unrestricted warfare is in

00:47:34.380 my my vantage point, I have

00:47:36.780 to talk about it.

00:47:38.060 You know, we were talking

00:47:38.800 with Avita or Avita early in

00:47:40.360 the show about sort of, you

00:47:42.160 know, deportations happening

00:47:43.740 on campus.

00:47:44.840 I think we've been pretty

00:47:45.940 clear in the war room, if it

00:47:47.740 were up to me, and I think

00:47:49.360 Steve shares my viewpoint, I

00:47:50.720 would deport every single

00:47:52.340 Chinese national student.

00:47:54.780 And I'll tell you why.

00:47:56.480 Obviously, people love to hear

00:47:57.660 about the Confucius

00:47:58.520 Institutes, right?

00:47:59.380 That's sort of the explicit

00:48:00.760 in your face form of CCP

00:48:02.880 propaganda, also a hub for

00:48:05.160 espionage activities.

00:48:06.340 But that's more the kind of

00:48:07.520 cultural subversion,

00:48:09.300 particularly the language

00:48:10.960 immersion programs.

00:48:11.980 They even have what's called

00:48:13.100 Confucius classrooms, which is

00:48:14.840 the K through 12 component to

00:48:17.540 these Confucius Institutes.

00:48:19.460 So, yeah, the CCP is in your

00:48:21.440 local kindergarten classroom.

00:48:23.700 In some cases, these initiatives

00:48:25.160 have actually led to, I believe

00:48:27.500 it was a second grade class in

00:48:29.080 Washington.

00:48:29.580 I broke this story years ago,

00:48:31.360 but actually engaging in a pen

00:48:33.360 pal relationship, writing letters

00:48:35.820 to Xi Jinping.

00:48:37.240 I guess Xi Jinping in between, I

00:48:39.060 don't know, you know, killing

00:48:39.980 Uyghurs in Xinjiang had time to

00:48:42.280 write to American second graders

00:48:43.820 talking about how great China is and

00:48:46.160 how awesome actually the Chinese

00:48:47.860 military is.

00:48:48.780 I'm not kidding.

00:48:49.420 That actually happened.

00:48:51.060 But more precisely, I think the

00:48:53.820 Confucius Institute, everyone can

00:48:55.280 agree, you know, the CCP has a

00:48:56.740 strong presence on these college

00:48:58.040 campuses.

00:48:58.560 I'm not even talking from the

00:48:59.900 professor buy-off, the sort of

00:49:01.380 thousand talents programming, right?

00:49:04.060 The joint research funding, both

00:49:05.880 your tax dollars, but also coming

00:49:08.100 from Chinese institutions, that kind

00:49:10.240 of being, I would say, the gateway

00:49:12.600 drug to a lot of these professors,

00:49:15.400 leaking either intentionally or

00:49:17.000 unintentionally and inadvertently

00:49:18.600 giving IP, trade secrets in some

00:49:21.500 cases, nuclear secrets, military

00:49:23.420 secrets.

00:49:24.540 But what's an entity that I think

00:49:26.640 this audience should really pay

00:49:27.800 attention to that it doesn't get a

00:49:29.380 lot of cover because of coverage

00:49:31.980 rather because of these Confucius

00:49:33.360 Institutes?

00:49:34.140 And that is the CSSA.

00:49:36.260 That's the Chinese Students and

00:49:37.980 Scholars Association.

00:49:39.880 So these are the sort of hubs on a

00:49:41.540 lot of these college campuses, which

00:49:44.080 have a more direct control over most

00:49:46.920 overseas Chinese students studying in

00:49:49.100 the United States.

00:49:50.180 It's sort of like the, for lack of a

00:49:51.860 better word, Gestapo, which can

00:49:54.640 essentially requisition, if not to

00:49:57.020 use a word you guys are familiar

00:49:58.560 with, weaponize any Chinese student

00:50:01.700 at any point.

00:50:03.720 And keep in mind the leverage they

00:50:04.840 have of their families all back in

00:50:06.520 China.

00:50:07.420 Oftentimes these students are members,

00:50:09.520 or at least their families are, of

00:50:10.580 the Chinese Communist Party.

00:50:12.380 But per Article 7 of China's National

00:50:14.960 Intelligence Law, it stipulates that any

00:50:17.820 Chinese person, company, business, you

00:50:20.760 name it, can be requisitioned by the

00:50:23.940 state, by the Ministry of State

00:50:25.360 Security, and be tasked with gathering

00:50:28.520 intelligence, doing essentially anything.

00:50:30.720 They leave it intentionally very vague to

00:50:32.900 advance the interests of Beijing, of the

00:50:35.220 Chinese Communist Party.

00:50:36.800 So every single Chinese national student

00:50:39.380 that is on campus, and sure, call me racist,

00:50:41.820 media matters, I really don't care.

00:50:44.220 But every single Chinese national student

00:50:46.560 that is here in the United States,

00:50:49.320 frankly, any Chinese businessman, anyone

00:50:51.020 who's a Chinese national, it is a valid

00:50:53.480 risk, extremely valid, in their words, not

00:50:56.500 mine, I'm not even paraphrasing it, that

00:50:58.840 they can be essentially coerced, probably

00:51:01.480 you don't even need that much coercion, by

00:51:03.600 Beijing into being essentially a spy on

00:51:06.540 behalf of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:51:08.940 That's why you see no coverage of this, the

00:51:10.620 media's bought off. All of these professors

00:51:13.020 are on the take. Harvard's Ash Center, for

00:51:15.320 example, trained the officials that

00:51:17.060 essentially set up and run the Xinjiang

00:51:19.140 concentration camps. They've been doing

00:51:22.280 that since 2011, and they're funded up the

00:51:25.420 wazoo by Chinese Communist Party money, and

00:51:27.880 I guess Qatari money too, but they'll never

00:51:29.820 disclose their funding because it would

00:51:31.440 show you that these people, it's all pay for

00:51:33.740 play. I don't understand why we haven't

00:51:36.720 deported these Chinese nationals. I would

00:51:38.740 have done it on day one. It's such a national

00:51:40.800 security threat, ideologically, but also from a

00:51:44.120 kinetic perspective, you know, when things

00:51:46.040 heat up in the South China Sea, like China

00:51:47.800 just seized, what was it, Sandy Kay, and you

00:51:51.400 have, what, a couple hundred thousand Chinese

00:51:53.260 nationals here, in addition to the illegal

00:51:55.420 border crossers. I'm not going to want to be

00:51:58.460 on Harvard's campus when that happens, I'll put

00:52:00.480 it that way, or I guess any of the state

00:52:03.200 institutions either, probably not University

00:52:04.980 of Michigan, probably not Yale either. CCP

00:52:09.180 actually runs their endowment, but that's a

00:52:10.960 story for another time. Warren Posse, thank you

00:52:12.880 for hanging with me. I think Steve will be back

00:52:14.920 tomorrow, hopefully, but if not, I will see you

00:52:17.180 tomorrow, or Dave Brat. I hope you guys have a

00:52:19.260 good one.

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