Bannon's War Room - May 23, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 775: The Pitfalls Of AI Regulation And Cyborg Theocracy


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

169.73041

Word Count

9,301

Sentence Count

687

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Mark Beals grew up in a religious family in the 50s and 60s in a small Catholic church in Richmond, Virginia. He went on to become a priest at St. Joseph the Immaculate Conception Catholic Church in Richmond. He was also a member of the Joint Improvisation Corps at the University of Richmond, a unit of the U.S. Military Academy, and served in the counter-espionage unit known as Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO), a unit tasked with combating terrorism and terrorism-related threats against the United States government.


Transcript

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00:01:46.440 And we'll be checking in throughout the day.
00:01:48.100 So 9 a.m. tomorrow morning till noon, live coverage of the graduation at West Point.
00:01:52.560 And then on Monday, 10 a.m. to noon, we'll be covering the ceremony, the commemoration at Arlington National Cemetery for the honored dead of the United States military.
00:02:04.540 And Patrick K. O'Donnell will be my wingman for both days.
00:02:08.340 John is my wingman now.
00:02:09.920 Mark Beals, our guest.
00:02:10.820 Mark, also, I just want to make sure people understand the little parish that your parents and my parents and these, you know, are there's classic deplorables, right?
00:02:18.880 Just working class, good folks, very humble with Father Adrian, started this little parish of St. Joseph that has really expanded because of so many vocations, so many young people in the military, just great, great folks, the backbone of the country.
00:02:32.200 This is the parish that the Richmond office of the FBI started the investigation because Steve Bannon's parents were involved in it.
00:02:40.240 As you know, my dad is as close to a saint as you can get, just a kind, humble man.
00:02:44.760 They investigated because Steve Bannon was associated with that parish.
00:02:48.480 This is the kind of depravity at the FBI.
00:02:51.500 And when I was a kid in that parish of St. Paul's at this time, back in the 50s and 60s, the most revered people in the parish were the FBI agents.
00:03:01.100 We had a couple of FBI agents that everybody in the parish looked up to.
00:03:04.820 That's not the FBI today.
00:03:06.440 How shocking is that, that they investigated for extremism?
00:03:10.220 This was a breeding ground.
00:03:11.460 You know the folks that go there.
00:03:13.860 This is a breeding ground for extremism, sir.
00:03:15.880 You know, Steve, I wasn't particularly politically aware or active until that happened.
00:03:22.940 In fact, maybe I could even have said that I was sort of burying my head a little bit in the sand.
00:03:27.760 But once they kind of come for you, it's sort of hard not to pay attention.
00:03:32.360 I just remember my, like, grandmother, who I was very close with, and her little shawl and her rosary kneeling to take communion.
00:03:38.480 And to hear the FBI was potentially engaged there was a very shocking, I think, experience for me.
00:03:45.700 And completely not consistent with what I know the great men and women of the FBI, you know, swore the oath of the Constitution to, you know, to protect the country.
00:03:55.420 That's not, that never seemed like something that they would ever do.
00:03:58.800 So, no, pretty shocking, particularly given you and all the great, the young people that came out of there and went in the military, went to build businesses.
00:04:06.040 It's just incredible.
00:04:07.460 Joe Allen, we got a couple more questions for Mark before you let it go.
00:04:10.000 Really thank you for coming in, sir, given everything you've got on your plate.
00:04:13.780 Joe Allen, take it away.
00:04:14.700 Joe Allen, take it away.
00:04:44.700 Silicon Valley, maybe you could say transhumanists, post-humanists, and the aims that they have.
00:04:54.340 How do you personally, if you care to speak to that, see this in religious terms or just your involvement in the church in general, the statements from Pope Leo XIV, how do you see religious communities responding to this?
00:05:07.800 I think if you look at the culture coming out of Silicon Valley, some of the people that are building this technology are not only atheists but potentially even hostile to religious people.
00:05:23.320 And I think when you hear the public statements that are made, you know, how AI will make humanity no longer essential or AI will, you know, we should be planning for succession and handing the keys of the kingdom over to AI.
00:05:39.700 And ultimately, this goal of building the digital god to usher in an era of immortality.
00:05:46.540 And by the way, these aren't things that I necessarily think or believe.
00:05:49.740 It's just what the folks that are building this technology themselves have been saying over the last 10 years.
00:05:54.280 I think it's hard for people of faith to not kind of be grabbed by the lapels and confront this potentially very hostile series of developments that could affront people of religious faith.
00:06:08.980 And I remember back in my time at Benedictine, we had to write this essay on freedom.
00:06:12.480 You know, I was a senior in high school on 9-11, and freedom was sort of the talk of the day.
00:06:15.920 And, you know, as long as people had the freedom to choose the good in the world, and I worry about a future in which not only are people no longer able to choose the good, but potentially no longer able to choose many, many things at all, whether that be how they derive their income.
00:06:33.000 And by the way, you know, you hear folks talking about ideas around universal basic income, and they promise this utopia.
00:06:41.320 But I tell you, folks who have studied history know that every time someone makes a claim about utopia, it ends in one place, and that place is the gulag.
00:06:52.340 But I also think there could be – this technology could bring about a tremendous amount of benefits for people, especially if we don't have to go all the way to the superintelligence that some people want to build and focus in on improving the quality of life for all Americans, improving health care.
00:07:08.460 But we'll have to sort of think very carefully, and I think we saw a letter from some evangelical Christian leaders sent to the president just a few days ago urging the president to take some of these issues much more seriously and ensure that those folks have a seat at the table as important policy choices are made.
00:07:27.320 And, you know, the last thing I'll mention, Joe, here on this one is that the idea of AGI, artificial general intelligence, this capability might be happening as soon as a while President Trump is in office.
00:07:38.800 And so as we sort of think about what's coming right around the corner, the people of our country, I think, need to get a lot more engaged, calling their members of Congress, expressing concern, and otherwise being activated on this one.
00:07:53.800 Because I think, as Steve made, this is perhaps the most important test of – certainly of our lifetime, if maybe not even of human history.
00:08:03.440 And I know that sounds a little fantastical, but I really believe that it might be true.
00:08:08.200 Well, just listening to the people like Marc Andreessen, Sam Altman, Larry Page, Demis Isabas, just the vision of creating this digital god itself, even if it's not necessarily plausible technically, although I definitely do not dismiss the possibility,
00:08:25.580 that belief system has to be focused on, in my opinion, especially when it comes to total human replacement or human extinction as a goal.
00:08:36.200 It has to be excised from the culture.
00:08:40.280 Real quick, too, that's Johnny Moore and the ChristianAILetter.org, I believe, is the open letter that Marc Beal just mentioned.
00:08:50.880 And we had Max Tegmark on in the last few days, and he, I think, echoes a lot of your sentiments as far as the positive potentiality of AI and avoiding the negative.
00:09:01.940 I, myself, I've got to say, speaking to you guys, I always have to suppress my Luddite instincts so that I don't come in as a big party pooper.
00:09:09.720 But I really do appreciate at least the real conscience in what you guys are doing.
00:09:16.140 So, Marc, if you would, just please tell us where we can find you, tell us where we can find out about your work at the AI Policy Network,
00:09:23.740 and what sorts of things you guys are going to be doing in the near future.
00:09:28.900 Yeah, so we're going to continue our campaign, our guerrilla campaign on Capitol Hill and with the public to try to get the message out
00:09:36.580 and try to just help folks understand that what's happening in this field and help Congress navigate this issue as best they can on behalf of the country
00:09:49.720 and fulfillment of their duties under the Constitution.
00:09:52.800 You guys can find me on Twitter, Marc Beal, and at the AIPN.org.
00:09:58.340 We're always looking for supporters and for folks to help us with our mission.
00:10:02.640 So if you'd like to get more involved, please do feel free to reach out and say hi, and we'd be delighted to chat.
00:10:09.680 Okay, Marc Beal, thank you very much.
00:10:11.460 Look forward to speaking to you again.
00:10:13.420 Thank you, gentlemen.
00:10:14.040 Have a wonderful day.
00:10:14.880 And I'd like to say happy Memorial Day and suggestively call out a Benedictine colleague, Nick Curvin, USMC, who died in Afghanistan.
00:10:22.200 We miss you, Swervin Curvin.
00:10:24.260 Wow.
00:10:25.520 Unbelievable.
00:10:25.920 That's the weekend we commemorate these fallen heroes, the honored dead of the American military.
00:10:31.600 Thank you so much, Marc Beal, and Benedictine generated some great, great leaders.
00:10:36.900 Really, really fantastic institution.
00:10:39.180 Talking about great leaders, Mo is going to the Board of Visitors at West Point.
00:10:44.300 We also have another war room posse regular, Catherine O'Neill.
00:10:48.240 Catherine, big announcement you put up on Twitter a little while ago.
00:10:52.020 Where are you headed?
00:10:53.340 You're taking a senior leadership position on a board that is very close to our heart.
00:10:57.940 In fact, we had the head of the organization on the show this morning talking about Hungary and Poland.
00:11:02.700 What are you doing?
00:11:04.720 Thanks, Steve, for having me on.
00:11:06.800 So I just joined the Board of the American Conservative, which is an organization that's near and dear to me.
00:11:14.880 My family's been involved with it from the very beginning.
00:11:17.820 And I believe that it was the first true publication to parrot the America First agenda.
00:11:24.440 And I'm very happy to be a part of it and help continue the legacy there.
00:11:28.740 Are you going to go to Hungary or Poland?
00:11:34.060 Or how involved are you going to be in CPAC?
00:11:36.000 American Conservative is, I know it's the magazine you guys put out.
00:11:41.680 Is this Kurt Mills' magazine?
00:11:43.540 Yes, this is Kurt Mills.
00:11:44.920 Yeah, he was a dear friend of mine.
00:11:47.280 Kurt Mills, now you get into a very controversial, we love Kurt Mills, very controversial guy.
00:11:52.320 Yes, he is.
00:11:54.760 But he is on the forefront of the anti-war America First movement, you know, talking about the endless wars, preventing us from going to war with Iran right now, which is very scary, as you know.
00:12:07.800 So Kurt is doing a brilliant job over there to try to prevent that.
00:12:14.720 Your father and brother have been very engaged in this also.
00:12:17.880 What has attracted the O'Neill family with all the different people that come to you, et cetera?
00:12:23.480 This magazine, Kurt Mills, we've known Kurt now for 10 years as a young editor.
00:12:28.380 What has it attracted to the O'Neill family for you guys to get engaged here?
00:12:33.380 Yeah, absolutely.
00:12:34.260 It was not only my father and my brother, but also my grandmother, who you knew very well, a former ambassador, Faith Whittlesey, was involved in the creation of TAC.
00:12:44.800 She was also on the board of the Rockford Institute, which is out of Illinois.
00:12:49.580 And it's just parroting these ideals of pro-nationalism and pro-America.
00:12:55.320 And I think they were the ones that were not afraid to say these things 30 years ago when, you know, maybe they weren't as popular.
00:13:03.860 Another one is a guy named Pap Buchanan.
00:13:06.080 My family was very close to Pap Buchanan.
00:13:10.280 My dad was with him in New Hampshire when he won the primary, I believe it was in 92.
00:13:15.780 So those were the ideals that I was raised on.
00:13:18.800 And so I want to make sure that we're continuing that legacy within my family.
00:13:23.180 Do you think you guys are winning the conversation?
00:13:26.340 I know Kurt's very close to Tucker.
00:13:28.140 You've got this whole kind of wing now of the MAGA movement.
00:13:31.220 Do you guys believe you're winning the intellectual argument in regards to, I wouldn't say isolationism.
00:13:37.900 You know, J.D. gave a talk at the Naval Academy today to talk about the new reality of American foreign policy and national security.
00:13:45.160 Do you guys think you're winning the intellectual argument?
00:13:48.420 Absolutely, 100%.
00:13:49.860 I believe that it's the right argument to make.
00:13:52.740 And I think Donald Trump has been brilliant in bringing that argument to the forefront of our dialogue here in this country.
00:14:00.100 Putting America and Americans first is the cornerstone of the American conservative magazine and has been since its inception.
00:14:08.940 And so I believe that those ideas are now in the mainstream media.
00:14:13.820 I mean, people are parroting America first all the time.
00:14:17.380 It's popular.
00:14:18.500 It's cool.
00:14:19.080 And I think, you know, kudos to people like my grandmother, Pat Buchanan, my dad, Kurt Mills, for starting that and starting that trend and keeping it relevant.
00:14:31.500 Talk to me about the company.
00:14:33.360 You're taking this board seat now, but you're still going to run the you're still running Merriweather Farms for Memorial Day.
00:14:39.140 What do you got for us?
00:14:40.960 Yes, absolutely.
00:14:41.680 So we are have our beautiful beef sticks that I think all of your staff have tried.
00:14:49.660 It's like a slim gym, but much healthier.
00:14:52.740 And we're offering a 20 percent discount on these beef sticks with code word War Room 20.
00:14:59.520 They're a great snack.
00:15:01.160 I go to the gym a lot and I eat them a lot after my workout.
00:15:04.840 It's nine grams of protein, no weird preservatives or anything that you find in the bigger brands.
00:15:12.960 So, as you know, our beef is clean, no antibiotics, no hormones.
00:15:16.800 And so it's a great snack for active people, for kids.
00:15:20.520 My daughter loves them.
00:15:21.900 She's two.
00:15:23.080 She'll crush an entire beef stick by herself.
00:15:25.720 So, but yeah, so go to go to our website, merriweatherfarms.com, and you'll see them right on the home page code word War Room 20 for 20 percent off the beef sticks.
00:15:39.220 Amazing.
00:15:39.840 You've been on a couple of campaigns for Trump.
00:15:42.260 You've been in the State Department for President Trump.
00:15:44.240 You've been in the White House for President Trump.
00:15:45.680 You've been a total, complete warrior.
00:15:47.540 Now you're one of the great young entrepreneurs out there and you're stepping up to help the folks over at American Conservative, particularly Kurt Mills and that great editorial team.
00:15:55.820 Thank you, ma'am.
00:15:56.460 One more time, where do people over the weekend go to Merriweather Farms?
00:16:00.120 Thank you, Steve.
00:16:00.880 So go to merriweatherfarms.com, and you'll see the beef sticks right on the home page.
00:16:05.740 Use code word War Room 20 for 20 percent off these beef sticks.
00:16:10.220 I'm telling you, they're the best beef sticks you've ever had.
00:16:13.080 I promise.
00:16:14.620 And I love that two-year-old daughter crushing one.
00:16:16.640 Thank you, ma'am.
00:16:17.260 You have a great Memorial Day weekend.
00:16:19.320 Thanks.
00:16:19.760 You too, Steve.
00:16:21.520 I want to go.
00:16:21.980 Todd Benzman cannot join us.
00:16:23.240 Something came up.
00:16:23.860 He's working on something.
00:16:24.560 So we're going to try to get Todd after the Memorial Day commemoration, probably on Tuesday.
00:16:28.860 But we've got Sheriff Roy Boyd from Goliath, Texas.
00:16:33.260 Sheriff, here's what I don't understand.
00:16:34.640 And I think people, we're going to have Russo on in a minute.
00:16:37.220 He did great Texans for strong borders.
00:16:39.200 I think people around the country understand that kind of Texas is the railhead of MAGA, and one of the basic principles of President Trump is not simply to secure the border, but that you've got to deport the illegal aliens that are here.
00:16:54.460 And we hear now there's this huge fight, I guess, in the Texas House and Senate about a bill, what, 287G.
00:17:01.600 And everybody tells me the guy to talk to about this is Sheriff Roy Boyd.
00:17:05.700 Can you walk our audience through why this is even a controversy down in Texas, given the great patriots and folks down there that support President Trump and support the MAGA agenda?
00:17:16.120 Thanks for having me on, Steve.
00:17:18.600 But I will tell you, first and foremost, that while Texas may be full of conservatives and we're predominantly a rural state, we're becoming urbanized very fast.
00:17:28.040 And if we're not careful, we're going to be the new Californian in another 15 to 20 years at the rate we're going.
00:17:33.700 So our legislature is not nearly as conservative as most of the people in the state of Texas would like to believe they are.
00:17:39.760 And as a result of that, they're fighting constantly about what they're going to do, because you have many people now in the state of Texas at the local, you know, whether it's that county or at the state level that run as Republicans, but are really not Republicans.
00:17:56.880 And some of those you'll be able to see because they switched over to the Republican Party during the first Trump administration, realizing that they were going to be swept if they didn't get on board with what Trump was saying.
00:18:07.460 And so they've mimicked those things. But when it comes time to passing legislation, they always get a little bit soft on what they need to do.
00:18:15.500 You know, the bill you're talking about, 287G, is Senate Bill 8.
00:18:18.760 And I wrote some language for this bill. But I will tell you, it's not just the legislature's fault.
00:18:23.720 It's also law enforcement's fault, because a lot of the sheriffs don't want to be told what to do.
00:18:29.320 And I can understand that. But the problem is now in the bill, unless you are a county of 100,000 or more people,
00:18:36.420 you are not mandated to participate in the 287G program.
00:18:41.460 And so what that means is out of 254 counties in the state of Texas, only 43 counties will be mandated to request to participate in 287G.
00:18:53.580 Doesn't mean they have to participate. It just means they have to request it.
00:18:57.880 And if they do get accepted, there's nothing in there about them actually doing the job.
00:19:02.720 And so the problem is we're doing half casuals, and we're not actually making things happen.
00:19:07.540 Just explain to the audience what this, because I think people are like, can't believe.
00:19:12.160 Local law enforcement, and particularly the sheriffs of the counties, which are so powerful in Texas, as law enforcement,
00:19:18.920 you're not actually working with federal authorities.
00:19:21.760 Why do we actually have to pass a bill? Why don't you guys just work in hand in glove anyway?
00:19:26.300 Man, your guess is good as mine. The problem is you've got a vast array in law enforcement.
00:19:32.120 It doesn't matter where you are. But you have some folks that get elected to sheriff, and for them, it's their chance.
00:19:38.700 They're at the apex of their career and are going to put their feet on their desk.
00:19:42.100 For some of them, they're like the dog that caught the car by the bumper, and it's dragging them down the road
00:19:47.400 because it's actually too much for them to manage and to comprehend.
00:19:50.300 And then you have some of those that have other political leanings, even though they run Republican, that don't want to do anything.
00:19:57.660 The Border Sheriff's Coalition is a good example.
00:20:00.000 The Border Sheriff's Coalition wants nothing to do with enforcement.
00:20:03.560 They want all the Stone Garden money in the world, and they don't want anything to do with disrupting cartel activity down along the border.
00:20:10.920 And we've seen it firsthand, because our investigations in our county, based off of our task force efforts, always lead down to the border.
00:20:18.240 But we don't get cooperation in most of the counties down there.
00:20:21.960 And so you have a wide dynamic of personalities and interests in local law enforcement.
00:20:27.100 And so I pushed for this bill to have all-encompassing language in it that requires all law enforcement.
00:20:35.640 But first off, the legislature didn't want to include the municipal law enforcement,
00:20:39.980 and they didn't want to force the sheriffs because some of the sheriffs were upset
00:20:44.280 because they didn't want to have to participate if they didn't want to.
00:20:47.880 And part of that problem goes back to a couple things, Steve.
00:20:51.280 Number one, the Trump administration has done a miserable job of marketing the 287G program,
00:20:58.480 because historically, 287G is a jail program.
00:21:02.840 And so many in law enforcement still look at it as a jail program because it was called 287G.
00:21:08.860 They should have come out and called it 1357G authorities or something different to differentiate it from the jail program.
00:21:16.560 And so, you know, there's that portion of it.
00:21:20.920 And then you have the fact that a lot of folks in law enforcement are still stuck on that and are ignorant of the fact that it's changed.
00:21:27.800 Our DPS in the state of Texas got it in front of the legislature and testified that this was a procedural program.
00:21:34.040 They didn't need to participate.
00:21:35.840 That's our troopers across all 254 counties.
00:21:38.900 And somebody's up there testifying that it's a procedural program.
00:21:42.020 That's not true.
00:21:43.400 With the three models of 287G at this point in time, there's an option for everybody.
00:21:48.760 So and then you also have those who complain that it might cost them something.
00:21:53.340 Well, you know, let me ask you a question, because this is something that we're at the Supreme Court now with President Trump being commander in chief.
00:22:04.420 Are the sheriffs right now or are you guys working with Homan and people to actually fill the flights that are going to Central America?
00:22:12.240 Is this one of the reasons we have to have this bill?
00:22:14.820 Like, for instance, are local sheriffs in Texas actually working as partners with Homan just to fill these flights and get people out of there?
00:22:23.500 Because these flights took I think they took off from South Texas.
00:22:26.920 Is that one of the problems?
00:22:29.760 Some of the sheriffs are working with Homan.
00:22:31.720 Some are.
00:22:32.560 I've met with him on numerous occasions in the last year.
00:22:35.040 I sat down, talked with him about some actually presented him with a plan for, you know, leveraging state and local law enforcement under a task force model.
00:22:44.460 And I know that they're taking part of that recommendation and getting ready to to bring it to fruition once the budget is passed.
00:22:51.360 But I will tell you that I would say the majority of the sheriffs are not wholeheartedly supporting and helping Tom Homan in this mission.
00:22:59.280 And I think it's a cry in shame because I believe every one of us has a duty to the Constitution of the United States, to the people of the United States.
00:23:07.140 And we need to get off our butts and we need to get moving and we need to support the federal government and Tom Homan wholeheartedly because the American people have given President Trump a mandate to take care of this problem.
00:23:20.200 And if we don't stand up and do it, then what we're going to do is we're going to find that we've wasted these four years.
00:23:28.000 We're either going to get rid of the cartel in the United States or we're going to embolden them and they're going to remain.
00:23:35.060 And until we remove all the illegal aliens in this country and we go after the cartel's contractors, subcontractors, affiliates and their supporting businesses in the United States, we will never deny them their ability to make profit.
00:23:47.560 And that is exactly what they're after.
00:23:51.060 Brother Russo from Texas for a strong border joins this.
00:23:55.100 Now, I think, caught some heat in the in the in the Texas ledger.
00:23:58.960 Explain exactly where we are, because I think the audience's head's blown up, not just folks in Texas,
00:24:03.660 but they're kind of stunned that there actually are sheriffs out there that are not working with Homan right now to fill these planes and get these get these folks back to Venezuela or back to Central America.
00:24:14.760 Where do we stand on this whole thing?
00:24:17.280 It's good to be with you, Steve, and good to see you, Sheriff Boyd.
00:24:20.200 Right now it's on Senate Bill 8, which is the 287 G bill is on the Texas House calendar for tomorrow, Saturday.
00:24:29.200 And so once it passes the House, it's already passed the Senate.
00:24:33.140 And so once it goes there, the Senate can choose whether to concur or refuse the changes that were made or that will be made in the Texas House.
00:24:43.660 If they concur with those changes, then it'll be sent to the governor's desk or it can be signed into law.
00:24:51.400 We think that this bill is going to pass in one form or another.
00:24:54.400 And we've been fighting all session for exactly what Sheriff Boyd talked about of nation.
00:25:01.620 We actually testified on the Senate side and in the House companion bill to have that change made.
00:25:10.200 We're hoping that that can get made on the House floor tomorrow.
00:25:13.340 And hopefully the bill that reaches the governor's desk longer than the one that passed the Texas Senate.
00:25:19.680 So hang on for one second.
00:25:21.040 I'm going to hold you guys through the break.
00:25:22.340 And we've got another big guest coming up.
00:25:23.820 We're going to get back into artificial intelligence with Joe Allen.
00:25:26.400 But I've got to get this sorted.
00:25:28.060 Why do you think, because this was kind of problematic, whether either you put it on the calendar or the vote,
00:25:32.700 why do you why are you confident right now on Friday going to Memorial Day, which is kind of stunning to work in Memorial Day weekend?
00:25:40.380 Why do you think this thing will pass in the House tomorrow?
00:25:44.020 I think it'll pass because it's on the calendar.
00:25:48.480 And take Chris froze up.
00:25:53.780 Here's what we're going to do.
00:25:54.540 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:25:56.180 We're going to bring in.
00:25:58.640 There's been one of the drivers of this.
00:26:01.040 It's kind of stunning.
00:26:01.980 You think sheriffs down there are not willing to are not openly working with home.
00:26:05.760 But it's been a big problem.
00:26:06.940 And I know it's been a big problem about filling these planes and making sure they're totally full before they leave.
00:26:12.140 So we're going to bring back Russo.
00:26:13.400 We're going to bring back Boyd.
00:26:14.300 We're going to get to the bottom of this.
00:26:15.800 Also, a major guest, James Polis, is going to join us with Joe Allen on a on a Friday.
00:26:21.980 This artificial intelligence.
00:26:23.200 I'm telling you, this thing that was slipped in to the big, beautiful bill.
00:26:26.500 I realize you can't let these states pass 9000 laws.
00:26:29.720 But to just pass it through, put it in there with no discussion, no debate.
00:26:33.860 Not the best.
00:26:35.400 Times of turbulence.
00:26:36.600 You heard Besant.
00:26:37.720 You heard Secretary of Treasury Besant at the beginning of the show about the big, beautiful bill.
00:26:41.800 Also, the capital markets and tariffs.
00:26:44.900 Pretty turbulent today in the bond market.
00:26:47.180 Remember, they get a vote.
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00:32:43.980 Sheriff Boyd, tomorrow's game day.
00:32:46.180 You've worked on this from the beginning.
00:32:47.400 It's kind of one of your ideas.
00:32:49.240 Where do people go?
00:32:50.560 What are they going to do to talk to their rep?
00:32:51.980 Because it's coming down to the vote.
00:32:53.520 When you've got the votes, call the vote.
00:32:55.080 So what have folks got to do tonight?
00:32:57.820 Well, it's a call to action.
00:32:59.320 You're absolutely right, Steve.
00:33:00.600 Everybody needs to get on their phones.
00:33:03.340 They need to call their state rep.
00:33:04.820 If you don't know the number to your state rep, go to house.texas.gov.
00:33:09.360 You can find all the state reps.
00:33:11.080 Call them.
00:33:12.020 Start calling their offices because they're going to be working through the weekend.
00:33:15.620 They will have their staff there.
00:33:17.720 You know, they're politicians.
00:33:19.500 They work off of pressure.
00:33:21.140 Call them.
00:33:21.800 Pressure them to pass the House version of Senate Bill 8.
00:33:25.180 Tell them to move that bill forward.
00:33:27.040 It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing.
00:33:29.480 It's all we have at this point in time.
00:33:31.800 But tell them, we need a more conservative Texas, and we need to get on board with supporting
00:33:35.780 the agenda of President Trump, and we need to save our great state from the direction
00:33:40.740 it's going right now.
00:33:43.060 Sheriff Boyd, social media, where do people track you and follow you, sir?
00:33:48.740 Sir, I'm not a social media person.
00:33:51.220 They can follow the Goliad County Sheriff's Office.
00:33:53.840 I will tell you right now, I'm more of a field guy.
00:33:56.300 Yesterday, I arrested two illegal aliens in Venezuelans smoking dope in a Whataburger parking
00:34:01.180 lot.
00:34:02.280 I'm not much on sitting around on the computer if I don't have to.
00:34:06.140 All I'd rather do is say thank you so much, Steve.
00:34:09.340 You're an absolute patriot, and law enforcement appreciates the fact that you're willing to
00:34:15.460 go the full length and go to prison for the benefit of your country, and in order to
00:34:19.880 take up for your president and our president.
00:34:22.320 So thank you, and God bless you, Steve.
00:34:24.480 Well, thank you for the kind of work.
00:34:25.520 Sheriff Boyd, we do this to support guys like you in the field, and we can kind of tell
00:34:29.300 you we're not a social media darling, but God bless you for being out in the field
00:34:33.200 and arresting these bad guys.
00:34:34.500 Appreciate you, sir.
00:34:35.780 You want to know what makes America great?
00:34:39.540 That's what makes America great right there.
00:34:41.380 That's why we are great, folks like that.
00:34:43.040 You got to support him.
00:34:44.520 Russo, what have people got to do?
00:34:45.980 You guys have worked your tail off.
00:34:47.740 Texans for strong borders.
00:34:48.960 You got great people like Sheriff Boyd.
00:34:50.340 I think people's heads are kind of blowing up that everybody in Texas is not on board with
00:34:54.220 this, including some sheriffs.
00:34:55.220 So where do people go tonight?
00:34:56.520 You've done a Herculean job of getting this on the agenda where they can't run away from it.
00:35:01.100 It's going to be voted on Memorial Day weekend, probably tomorrow, Saturday.
00:35:04.680 So where do folks go tonight?
00:35:05.640 So what you guys need to do is, again, Sheriff Boyd had it.
00:35:13.820 Go to house.texas.gov where, who, which, or who your state rep is.
00:35:21.400 And I would call them no matter if they're a Republican or a Democrat and say, hey, we
00:35:27.480 have to get this across the finish line because the Texas House has not passed any major border
00:35:33.300 security legislation this session.
00:35:35.020 And we're getting to the deadline.
00:35:36.640 It's Tuesday.
00:35:37.360 But I have heard that this is going to be voted on tomorrow.
00:35:42.100 It's very early in the calendar.
00:35:44.180 And so it's not something that they're going to be able to punt.
00:35:47.120 And the fact is, is that when the light is shining on them, they're going to feel pressure
00:35:52.140 to vote the right way.
00:35:53.480 And I think that's what's going to end up happening.
00:35:55.860 So if you guys could just keep the pressure on, call your state rep, make sure that, uh,
00:36:01.620 that they are prepared to vote for Senate bill eight.
00:36:04.600 And what I would say is encourage them to strengthen it and then to call their state
00:36:08.660 senator and say, hey, if this bill is strengthened on the house floor tomorrow, you guys need to
00:36:13.700 accept those strengthening amendments and get it to the governor's desk as soon as possible.
00:36:18.520 Yeah, this bill is not perfect.
00:36:19.640 So we make it a lot better.
00:36:20.860 So make sure you call your rep tonight, uh, social media.
00:36:23.120 Where do people go Russo to follow you tonight?
00:36:27.760 You can follow us on X at strong borders TX, or go to our website at strong borders.org.
00:36:35.100 Thank you, brother.
00:36:35.880 Thank you for this fight.
00:36:36.940 Tomorrow's game day.
00:36:38.560 Sheriff Boyd and Chris Russo telling that make sure you go check out tonight.
00:36:42.140 Talk to your rep.
00:36:43.360 Let's make this thing stronger on the house floor tomorrow and win.
00:36:46.060 I love the fact that we're entering Memorial day weekend.
00:36:49.240 We're bringing one of the smartest guys.
00:36:50.480 I know Joe Allen, you've got a cold open.
00:36:52.580 The floor is yours for our very special guest to wrap up our coverage today.
00:36:58.160 You're standing in front of someone who looks like an absolute mutant, like you said, but
00:37:02.460 it's only because when they look at themselves on their phone, they look great.
00:37:06.680 Like when they take a picture, they look great because it's made for the camera.
00:37:09.720 It's wild.
00:37:10.280 Yeah, it's like the same sort of thing where, you know, you focus so much on what seem to
00:37:14.340 be these higher order things or this higher level of abstraction or scale that you neglect
00:37:19.100 the roots and the roots die.
00:37:20.660 We've got people now who are optimizing for the shimmering visage of the disincarnate avatar.
00:37:28.180 Yeah.
00:37:28.500 And the foundation of that, you know, the, what's supposed to be the root of the image
00:37:33.460 is hacked away and you're just left with this kind of floating mask.
00:37:37.600 All right.
00:37:40.540 We are honored to be joined by the great James Pullis, host of Zero Hour, author of Human
00:37:47.620 Forever, the Digital Politics of Spiritual War.
00:37:51.180 And I must say that book released in 2021 was a profound influence on my own work, both my
00:38:00.900 writing and just my way of thinking about technology in general.
00:38:06.580 James, thank you very much for joining us.
00:38:08.600 How are you, my friend?
00:38:10.520 Joe, it's a pleasure to see you.
00:38:11.820 Thanks for the kind words about that book.
00:38:13.720 When I came on War Room, told everyone Human Forever was here, the response was really
00:38:19.020 overwhelming, you know, thousands and thousands of folks.
00:38:21.200 So the feeling is mutual.
00:38:22.660 It's great to be back.
00:38:25.340 Fantastic, man.
00:38:26.380 So I really want to talk to you about the moment we're in right now with politics and
00:38:31.780 technology.
00:38:32.720 You really saw this coming where many thought that it would be sidelined, you know, indefinitely.
00:38:38.300 You have the Vatican coming out and the new Pope, Pope Leo XIV, talking about the threats
00:38:46.720 and downsides of artificial intelligence and human replacement.
00:38:50.400 You also have a lot of Orthodox Christians who are also really, really discussing this
00:38:56.860 in a serious way.
00:38:58.080 I think they get less attention in the mainstream media.
00:39:01.360 You have people like Jonathan Paggio, who you were there interviewing on Zero Hour.
00:39:05.780 You have Paul Kingsnorth and, of course, yourself.
00:39:10.060 But before we get to that, I just want to give you an opportunity.
00:39:13.220 I'm really excited to read it.
00:39:15.100 You have a new book out, a novel.
00:39:17.760 What's it called and what can we expect from it?
00:39:21.700 Yeah, that's right.
00:39:22.600 I will hold up a visual aid right here.
00:39:24.260 It's called I Know This Sounds Crazy.
00:39:25.940 It's available on Amazon for the dollar.
00:39:28.640 I know my previous book, Human Forever, was a Bitcoin-only thing.
00:39:33.240 That's been a wild ride and one that I can speak more about at great length.
00:39:38.500 But this one's on Amazon.
00:39:40.300 It's called I Know This Sounds Crazy.
00:39:41.520 It's the world's only novel about the Jeffrey Epstein universe.
00:39:44.940 It's got Epstein and Ghislaine and all those characters in it.
00:39:48.360 You know, it's something that I started writing in the 2020 during the lockdowns.
00:39:54.960 I thought it needed to be addressed and it wasn't really something that people could get real information on.
00:40:00.880 Sending, you know, folks obviously down all the rabbit holes.
00:40:03.580 Not that there's anything wrong with that.
00:40:05.440 But, you know, this is what art is supposed to do in a society.
00:40:07.840 Marshall McLuhan called artists our early warning systems.
00:40:10.420 And I wanted to play that role in this case.
00:40:13.180 So I put the book out, you know, strangely enough, I put it out under a pseudonym.
00:40:18.700 I was a little worried for my professional reputation.
00:40:21.100 We didn't know what was going on in those dark days of lockdowns.
00:40:24.540 Put it out under a pseudonym on the Bitcoin blockchain.
00:40:28.300 Again, that version is still a collector's item over at Canonic.xyz.
00:40:32.240 But for the version that's got my name on it, Walter Kern, the great Walter Kern, blurbed it.
00:40:37.840 That means it's got to be good.
00:40:39.340 So Amazon is the place to find.
00:40:41.760 I know this sounds crazy.
00:40:43.180 It's full of lessons from my life.
00:40:45.480 You know, the majority of my life spent in Los Angeles.
00:40:47.800 I've seen some of the dark things that scurry around in the underbelly of that town and of the whole world that Epstein created.
00:40:55.660 And I wanted to give people, you know, a peek, a glimpse into that world, why I think it works the way that it does.
00:41:00.420 And, you know, in the end, what kind of redemption we might find on the other side.
00:41:05.480 Well, I appreciate that closing note, because I got to say that the entire sordid affair of Epstein and even the connections to transhumanism and technology,
00:41:15.460 it's something that is very difficult for people to confront and really gaze into that abyss.
00:41:22.320 So I'm glad there is redemption.
00:41:24.660 You know, you've been an artist all your life.
00:41:27.060 You were a musician or are a musician, but that was your career for a long time, no?
00:41:32.440 You know, I did two tours of duty in L.A. as the front man of a couple of bands.
00:41:37.720 Like I say, it's a great way to spend money.
00:41:42.480 All right.
00:41:43.000 So on to politics and AI.
00:41:46.480 I mean, we right now are seeing finally some real discussion happening around regulating AI, not regulating AI, the possibility of harm to children who are bonding with chatbots like the meta AI chatbots.
00:42:02.700 You have the more extreme notions of total human replacement, of creating an artificial intelligence that is a digital god that will wrathfully destroy all the human race and put you in some kind of rocose basilisk hell.
00:42:16.940 I'm curious, what are you seeing right now?
00:42:19.500 How does this look to you?
00:42:20.980 Does it seem hopeful?
00:42:22.320 What would you like to see happen in regards to regulating or not regulating AI?
00:42:27.660 Well, you know, it's tough with regulation because in some ways, as you know, regulation can only make things worse.
00:42:36.980 You're probably old enough to remember, as am I, back when all our libertarian friends would go around saying, you can't legislate morality.
00:42:44.480 And well, you know, yes, you can.
00:42:46.980 But the question is, how well does it work?
00:42:49.140 And I think in this instance, what we're talking about is a spiritual condition that so many human beings find themselves in, a poor spiritual condition where they feel like they really have no choice, no alternative but to worship intelligence, not just to appreciate intelligence, not just to increase their own intelligence,
00:43:07.920 but to actually throw themselves at the feet of intelligence as the one true God and welcome it into their bodies, into their hearts, into their consciousness, really just tear down the boundary between ourselves, our given bodies, our souls, and this outside intelligence, which, you know, is oftentimes just something flying around in the air.
00:43:30.860 You know, you can't see it.
00:43:31.840 You can't smell it.
00:43:32.940 You can't taste it.
00:43:34.180 You can't touch it.
00:43:35.140 But it can do all those things to you.
00:43:36.400 And so, look, you know, this is a powerful technology, and we are going to have powerful technologies.
00:43:41.660 There have always been powerful technologies in this world, and they always, in virtue of their function as tools, they offer the possibility of temptation, as so many things do in this lived world.
00:43:54.380 And those temptations can be as powerful as the technologies themselves.
00:43:58.180 And I think at this moment, there is such a yearning in the hearts of so many people for a kind of spiritual authority they can trust.
00:44:08.180 We're long gone past the age when imagination ruled everything, and, you know, whether it was John Lennon or George Lucas or Steven Spielberg or all the geniuses of the imagination, if you can dream it, you can do it, Walt Disney, all that kind of stuff.
00:44:22.380 That's gone.
00:44:23.640 Machine memory is now more powerful than human imagination.
00:44:25.920 That's what Human Forever, one of the things Human Forever got into, turned out to be correct.
00:44:31.280 We're seeing that every day.
00:44:33.580 And, you know, that's not necessarily evil.
00:44:36.540 It just gives us this moment when so many people are saying, gosh, you know, my dreams and my fantasies aren't going to save me.
00:44:42.740 We're not going to save the world with dreams and fantasies.
00:44:45.020 Who's going to save my soul?
00:44:46.100 And they look around for the most powerful thing that seems to be looming and dominating over all of our lives, and they say, ah, it's machine intelligence.
00:44:53.640 I'm going to go with that.
00:44:54.980 This is a mistake.
00:44:56.140 Just as worshipping fire, worshipping, you know, the printing press, whatever, obviously a mistake.
00:45:02.040 This is idolatry, and that's not just something, you know, a table of old guys made up one day.
00:45:06.700 It is a phenomenon that we experience in our lives regardless of where we are in time and space.
00:45:11.820 Don't do it.
00:45:12.460 Not worth it.
00:45:13.180 We don't have to call on the airstrikes and blow up all the data centers like the doomers say.
00:45:18.380 We just have to start with not worshipping intelligence.
00:45:23.560 You know, our mutual friend, Ardian Tola, I think, really captured it in his term, the cyborg theocracy.
00:45:32.580 Ardian was the founder of Canonic.xyz.
00:45:35.620 That's where Human Forever was published on the blockchain.
00:45:39.560 Ardian, Ardian talks a lot about Bitcoin monasteries, and I have struggled to explain this to myself, to the war room posse, and to anyone who will hear.
00:45:53.580 If you would be so kind, can you illuminate us about this cyborg theocracy, about these Bitcoin monasteries?
00:46:03.260 Sure.
00:46:04.020 So, you know, cyborg theocracy is what it sounds like.
00:46:06.680 A theocracy is a form of rule that is fundamentally religious.
00:46:10.580 And a cyborg is a cyber organism.
00:46:14.720 That's the long form word.
00:46:16.700 And so what Ardian and, you know, some of the rest of us have been trying to draw attention to is this idea that in a world, in a society where intelligence, which is, you know, one little piece of God, when a part is worshipped as the whole or replacing the whole, what kind of regime form does that lead to?
00:46:36.120 It leads to one where the worship of intelligence is turned into an official religion, a religion of the regime, and one in which in order to properly worship intelligence fully, in order to give yourself body and soul over to the god of intelligence, who is a false god, you must merge with that intelligence.
00:46:55.720 You must become a cyborg, right?
00:46:57.600 You can think of the Borg from Star Trek Next Generation.
00:47:01.020 Yes, I'm throwing around these boomer memes because, you know, they did understand a thing or two.
00:47:05.060 And the better of the artists did see some of this stuff coming.
00:47:08.560 So that's kind of the essence of the cyborg theocracy concept.
00:47:11.780 And when it comes to Bitcoin monasteries, this is presented as kind of a conceptual alternative or opposite to the cyborg theocracy.
00:47:20.780 So, you know, sometimes the Bitcoin people are, monasteries, no, what are you doing?
00:47:24.700 This is magic money, and it's going to make everyone be happy forever.
00:47:28.360 And then some of the Christians among us are, Bitcoin, no, this is the devil.
00:47:33.880 This is, you're summoning demons.
00:47:35.460 So it's like, OK, everyone calm down.
00:47:37.460 Basically, what we're saying is Bitcoin is this kind of, it's a universal field.
00:47:41.740 It's a technology.
00:47:42.800 It's a protocol.
00:47:44.440 It is a form of computation that kind of has like a universal adapter on it.
00:47:48.540 Like if you fly to Europe and your plugs don't work and you have to get this big white thing with all these kinds of holes in it so you can connect everything up.
00:47:55.300 It's sort of like that.
00:47:56.480 Bitcoin has this tremendous power.
00:47:57.940 It's one of the most powerful technologies in the world.
00:48:00.440 And the remarkable thing about it is it's one that ordinary people can start using, as many of them are, right now.
00:48:06.560 The challenge is a lot of folks in the Bitcoin community say, no, no, no, don't use it.
00:48:10.700 This is the most precious thing in existence.
00:48:12.940 Just keep hoarding it.
00:48:14.300 Climb on top of your favorite hill.
00:48:15.940 Sit there.
00:48:16.320 Watch the sun go up and the sun go down and the number go up.
00:48:18.760 And eventually, everyone will be a gazillionaire and we won't have to do anything.
00:48:22.380 That's not America, you know, a commercial republic.
00:48:25.540 It's not super American from my point of view.
00:48:28.120 Certainly not super Christian.
00:48:30.240 But that's kind of the dominant meme in Bitcoin these days.
00:48:33.500 I would say the better way to understand Bitcoin is this is a universal computational system that if you don't use it to pay people who you want to pay to produce and sell or give to you things that you want to have, then guess what?
00:48:51.520 Other more powerful people are going to come along.
00:48:53.380 They're going to get their hands on Bitcoin and they are going to use it to use you, to remake you in their image.
00:48:59.080 If you don't like the sound of that, it strikes me as pretty American to say, hey, guys, let's get together.
00:49:04.900 Let's actually use this computational protocol to reward our friends, our loved ones, and yes, even the monasteries.
00:49:14.700 So, hey, why not set up the monks with a Bitcoin wallet?
00:49:44.680 So, you can donate to your favorite monastery in Bitcoin.
00:49:48.120 And when you extrapolate out from that, you start to think of like, okay, if you think of Bitcoin as like this big beast, sort of like a dragon or something, this all power, really, really muscular creature.
00:49:57.700 You don't want it running amok and knocking down cities and sort of eating people and sort of not even realizing it half the time.
00:50:03.580 You want it to be somewhat domesticated, right?
00:50:06.000 You want it to be to maybe even have a leash or a chain.
00:50:08.480 Who is capable of bringing this kind of enormous mechanical beast to heal?
00:50:13.240 Not killing it, not letting it rule, but bringing it to heal.
00:50:17.340 And the idea is, well, the spiritual authorities who we can best trust are the ones who can best show us how to take a kind of God-led relationship with regard to mastering our own technology.
00:50:31.860 Absolutely, beautifully put.
00:50:36.680 James Polos, where can we find your work?
00:50:40.420 You know, you are a force of nature in this field.
00:50:43.520 Zero Hour, your books.
00:50:45.940 Where do we find it before we pass this off to Steve to close us out?
00:50:50.140 Sure.
00:50:50.680 So I'm doing a couple different things for Blaze Media right now.
00:50:54.360 It's a lot of fun.
00:50:54.960 The show, Zero Hour, which you mentioned.
00:50:57.600 The magazine, the new magazine, Frontier.
00:51:00.680 If you like, you know, the golden age of print, we thought that it was a good time to do a golden age of print magazine, large format, coffee table ready for an American golden age.
00:51:10.420 And that's Frontier.
00:51:11.200 So you can go to blazemedia.com slash Frontier and check that out.
00:51:13.660 And then, of course, there's just blazemedia.com, where our tech vertical return and our lifestyle vertical line are giving you a sort of, you know, a human experience of what's going on in this crazy mixed up world when it comes to when it comes to tech and other things.
00:51:29.180 So that's all out there.
00:51:30.320 I am still on X.com at James Polos, although people are arguing about the algorithm every day.
00:51:35.780 That seems to be most of the discussion.
00:51:37.680 James, thanks very much.
00:51:38.840 We've got to cut this off.
00:51:40.940 But brother, man, thank you so much for joining us.
00:51:42.980 And Steve?
00:51:45.680 James Polos, the great Joe, where do people get you, brother, over this weekend?
00:51:49.400 Thank you for co-hosting.
00:51:51.320 You can find me at JobotXYZ, Jobot.XYZ.
00:51:55.560 And I just want to reiterate the title of James's novel is I Know This Sounds Crazy on Amazon.
00:52:02.600 Thank you very much.
00:52:03.240 Let's everybody dive into that.
00:52:05.160 James Polos, thank you so much for joining us on Friday.
00:52:06.960 Okay, everybody in Texas, light up those phones in the Texas house.
00:52:12.240 Do it today.
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