Bannon's War Room - June 13, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 789： Bush Wing Stays Lurking Around The Israel Conflict; Florida The Solar Superpower


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

160.49025

Word Count

8,673

Sentence Count

597

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

20


Summary

Israel carried out an attack on Iran early this morning targeting Iran's nuclear facilities. Iran says it was responding to an attack carried out by the Israeli military. Israel says it targeted Iran's main nuclear enrichment facility in Iran and destroyed dozens of radar installations. Iran claims to have shot down as many as 100 Israeli drones. Iran's foreign ministry says this could not have been carried out without the coordination and approval of the US.


Transcript

00:00:00.240 Iran's president responding, saying that its level of force and its actions will make Israel regret the actions that it took earlier today.
00:00:10.460 Similar to the pager operation that Israel carried out last year in Lebanon, this one also took years of planning.
00:00:17.540 Mossad released this footage earlier this morning of the operation Rising Lion between the IDF and Mossad,
00:00:24.880 which began at 3 a.m. local time, although preparation began long before.
00:00:29.040 The mission included Mossad smuggling vehicles and drones into Iran, setting up a drone base in Iran,
00:00:36.260 and activating the drones this morning to hit Iran's surface-to-air missiles.
00:00:40.420 At the same time, the IDF deployed 200 aircraft, these were mainly fighter jets, to hit roughly 100 targets in Iran,
00:00:49.620 all of this aimed at hitting the heart of Iran's nuclear program.
00:00:52.800 Today, the Israeli military says it also destroyed dozens of radar installations.
00:00:56.980 Multiple explosions were heard at Iran's Natanz nuclear power facility.
00:01:02.520 This is Iran's main enrichment facility.
00:01:05.120 Now, back and forth today between how much has actually been hit and the level of damage there,
00:01:10.080 Iran claims that it's still standing, but Israel says it has been severely damaged.
00:01:14.780 We struck at the heart of Iran's nuclear enrichment program.
00:01:19.320 We struck at the heart of Iran's nuclear weaponization program.
00:01:23.380 We targeted Iran's main enrichment facility in Natanz.
00:01:26.960 We targeted Iran's leading nuclear scientists working on the Iranian bomb.
00:01:31.920 We also struck at the heart of Iran's ballistic missile program.
00:01:35.120 Washington says it was not involved, and the top priority is protecting American forces here in the region.
00:01:43.260 Iran's foreign ministry firing back today, claiming that this could not have been carried out without the coordination and without the approval of the U.S.
00:01:50.620 The IDF says most of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps high command was killed while gathering in an underground headquarters,
00:01:59.020 including several of the highest-ranking military commanders.
00:02:02.800 We do expect the number of military officials killed to grow in the coming hours as we get more information about how all of this was carried out this morning.
00:02:10.600 We also know that Iran says as many as six nuclear scientists were killed in these attacks.
00:02:15.980 In response, Iran launched as many as 100 drones towards Israel.
00:02:20.820 All of those were able to be struck down not only by the IAF, the Air Force, with these fighter jets trying to take down those drones,
00:02:29.200 but also some of the drones that were fired into Jordan's airspace were shot down by their government as well.
00:02:35.540 You don't see how the regime in Iran survives this.
00:02:38.380 They have proven to be not just a paper tiger, but a tissue tiger.
00:02:41.880 And they have plenty of opposition within the country.
00:02:46.640 It's a despised regime by a large part of the Iranian population.
00:02:51.100 And I think we can maybe see a big change in Iran and a change in the entire Middle East,
00:02:55.000 possibly peace between Israel and Syria, Israel and Lebanon, Israel and Saudi Arabia, certainly.
00:03:00.440 A resolution to the horrible situation in Gaza.
00:03:04.300 And who knows, maybe even peace between Israel and Iran.
00:03:06.660 And Steve, just to go a step further, you know, of course, we stand with our allies.
00:03:13.100 Of course, we we we stand with Israel and all of our allies.
00:03:17.960 However, we've been told for as long as I can remember, 20, maybe 30 years now that that Iran is on the verge of having a nuclear weapon any day, any day.
00:03:28.980 And we constantly hear that scary threat to us.
00:03:33.620 But we've heard it too many times.
00:03:36.140 And Americans are just fatigued and they're sick of it.
00:03:40.040 And we really want to focus on the self-inflicted problems that we've created and fix them right here at home.
00:03:46.960 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:03:54.720 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:03:59.940 I got a free shot.
00:04:01.200 All these networks lying about the people.
00:04:04.200 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:04:06.180 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:04:07.600 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:04:10.240 It's going to happen.
00:04:11.520 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:04:14.920 Mega media.
00:04:15.800 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:04:21.700 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:04:25.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:31.820 War Room.
00:04:32.620 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:04:37.840 Welcome to The War Room.
00:04:39.480 It's Natalie Winters hosting today, Friday.
00:04:42.220 I was going to say June 13th, but it's not that often you get to say Friday the 13th here
00:04:47.140 in The War Room.
00:04:47.860 The Year of Our Lord 2025.
00:04:50.520 And I guess quite prophetic for it to be Friday the 13th.
00:04:53.680 The world is on fire.
00:04:55.940 Obviously, Stephen K.
00:04:56.760 Bannon has said that to open many shows, but today probably truer than ever, at least if
00:05:02.240 you look in terms of kinetic conflict, what happened in Iran overnight and has continued
00:05:06.900 to escalate.
00:05:08.880 I think that cold open we just played, sort of interesting cuts.
00:05:12.300 Obviously, MTG, I think, underscoring what War Room's approach, War Room's line has been
00:05:16.760 on this conflict from the get-go.
00:05:19.160 But I think a significant buried lead from that Fox package that we played coming from,
00:05:25.760 I believe, Israeli sources talking about how this was an attack that had, you know, been
00:05:29.500 planned for years, certainly under Joe Biden, but perhaps even going back into President
00:05:35.320 Trump, which I think is sort of an interesting narrative to be happening concurrently with
00:05:40.960 the idea that, you know, Iran's nuclear capabilities have just hit a point that are so unlivable,
00:05:47.360 you know, we can't continue on this path that it necessitated a strike last night.
00:05:52.520 Obviously, I'm sure both sides of the story untrue.
00:05:56.420 There's certainly some nuance to it.
00:05:58.160 So honored to bring on none other than Kurt Mills, who has been, I think, sort of our Sherpa
00:06:03.500 through this rather complicated region, not because it's actually that complicated, just
00:06:07.700 because there's so many conflicts of interest there that no one ever wants to disclose.
00:06:11.140 And I guess a militant Islamic theocracy probably doesn't help.
00:06:15.300 But Kurt, I'm curious to just start off, get your sort of overall assessment on what we've
00:06:20.960 seen transpiring in Iran, Israel's escalation, the whole thing.
00:06:27.780 Yeah, I mean, obviously, conflicts of interest galore, but it doesn't really matter at the
00:06:31.840 end of the day.
00:06:32.600 This was a fairly prolific strike by the Israelis.
00:06:36.820 And what is, I think, the open question right now is the exact chronology.
00:06:47.340 Did Israel decide to strike and inform the president earlier this week?
00:06:52.760 And then, you know, President Trump objected behind the scenes?
00:06:56.780 Or was he actually in on it from the start?
00:06:59.200 Also unclear is, what are we looking at?
00:07:03.440 Is there going to be a series of Israeli strikes?
00:07:05.680 Because they've essentially teased that.
00:07:08.160 Or will this be it?
00:07:11.460 And you're going to see pretty rapid Iranian counterattacks in short order.
00:07:16.580 And that's certainly what was feared.
00:07:18.960 That's certainly what is concerned.
00:07:20.160 But, I mean, this is this is the biggest strike by the U.S. or the U.S. allies basically since
00:07:26.960 the 80s, you know, arguably since the Islamic Revolution itself in 1979.
00:07:31.580 And it's a profound moment.
00:07:32.920 And it's a profound moment that raises questions about how this fits into Trump's broader foreign
00:07:39.600 policy.
00:07:40.260 I mean, Trump appeared last week, last month, I should say, in the Gulf, in Saudi, in UAE,
00:07:46.880 and in Qatar, and was sort of arm in arm with the Gulf partners.
00:07:51.200 Today, particularly Saudi, has denounced this move by the Israelis.
00:07:55.800 And so it would it would raise open questions of how this works within the broader Trump
00:08:00.780 architecture.
00:08:01.780 And additionally, I would say on a sort of intra right plane, you see a lot of prominent
00:08:07.720 MAGA voices being very quiet today, demure, not necessarily casting doubt on the exact
00:08:15.540 wisdom of any of this, but not celebrating it either.
00:08:18.980 And the contingent that is is frothing happy, that is extremely happy, is, of course, the
00:08:24.120 sort of traditional neoconservative old guard Bush wing, which Trump has warred with for
00:08:28.440 most of his political career.
00:08:29.540 So it is quite the Friday the 13th.
00:08:33.320 And we will have to see what happens further.
00:08:36.140 The olive branch exists from the White House for the Iranians to meet in Oman this weekend.
00:08:42.320 The foreign ministry has officially declined that invitation, but there is chattering that
00:08:49.120 it could, in theory, still happen.
00:08:51.460 Again, this stuff moves hour by hour, minute by minute.
00:08:54.480 You know, I appeared on Steve's program, you know, War Room with Steve hosting last night.
00:08:59.840 And, you know, I forecasted that and I was hearing that a strike was imminent.
00:09:04.420 And sure enough, it was hours later here in the Middle East.
00:09:08.000 I think that's like the curse of War Room, where we don't want to be vindicated on our
00:09:14.480 projections or predictions.
00:09:16.160 But unfortunately, we don't underestimate our enemies or lie about their mental health.
00:09:20.720 So we end up getting most things right.
00:09:23.320 I'm curious to your point about who's, you know, relishing in these attacks, obviously
00:09:27.440 the more neocon establishment wing.
00:09:29.060 I think there's sort of been two, I would say, divergent narrative camps.
00:09:32.580 I think the people on Twitter who are saying, you know, we've given Israel, you know, X amount
00:09:36.840 of money, probably, I don't even want to say the number on this program, it'd be so infuriating
00:09:41.260 to the audience.
00:09:42.480 You know, we describe them as an ally.
00:09:44.320 It seems like he's sort of, you know, in some cases circumventing President Trump, doing
00:09:48.260 things that he explicitly said he did not want to do.
00:09:50.580 And people are sort of pointing out the hypocrisy or just, you know, double standard of that
00:09:55.340 relationship.
00:09:56.040 But then you have an Axios report coming out, which, Denver, if you have the picture, you
00:10:00.740 can toss it up on screen.
00:10:01.720 I'll read it, saying that two Israeli officials claimed to Axios that Trump and his aides were
00:10:05.580 only pretending to oppose an Israeli attack in public and didn't express opposition in
00:10:10.220 private.
00:10:10.900 Quote, we had a clear U.S. green light, one claimed.
00:10:13.640 The goal, they say, was to convince Iran that no attack was imminent and make sure Iranians
00:10:17.360 on Israel's target list wouldn't move to new locations.
00:10:20.340 Netanyahu's aides even briefed Israeli reporters that Trump had tried to put the brakes on an Israeli
00:10:24.220 strike and a call on Monday, when in reality, the call dealt with coordination ahead of
00:10:27.880 the attack.
00:10:28.420 Israeli officials now say, now, perhaps that's just some, you know, military planning that
00:10:33.560 I guess Sun Tzu would be proud of.
00:10:36.360 But your thoughts on sort of the validity of that, if you think that's the case or what's
00:10:44.060 really going on?
00:10:46.100 Well, I mean, if I may, I think something else I would have highlighted in orange there
00:10:49.740 is the state of play, which is the U.S. didn't confirm any of this.
00:10:53.020 So this is the clear Israeli narrative.
00:10:56.580 It doesn't mean it's not true.
00:10:58.480 I mean, there were other reports.
00:10:59.940 I believe an N-12 station in Israel was reporting this.
00:11:03.700 That is not, as far as I'm concerned, prestige Israeli reporting.
00:11:07.660 But there were percolations of this in the Israeli press.
00:11:10.580 And it definitely seems like some Israeli officials, whoever they are, and Barack Ravid is a very
00:11:15.080 serious reporter, are putting that narrative out there.
00:11:18.260 I think, tellingly, the White House has not officially corroborated it.
00:11:21.320 But, you know, additionally, in the immediate aftermath of the strike, Secretary Rubio said
00:11:29.800 categorically the U.S. wasn't involved.
00:11:33.740 And, you know, I think that's a fairly extraordinary statement for it to be not true.
00:11:37.880 So what's going on here?
00:11:40.220 There's basically only two real scenarios.
00:11:43.140 Number one, the Israelis are telling the full truth.
00:11:47.580 Draw your own conclusions.
00:11:49.320 Or secondarily, elements of the administration, namely the president of the United States, are
00:11:54.500 trying to claim that they were in on it from the beginning because it's obviously embarrassing
00:12:00.560 if an ally, a junior partner in an alliance, gets out ahead of the U.S.
00:12:04.840 And I think that's what causes, you know, a considerable amount of disquiet about this
00:12:09.240 relationship in general.
00:12:10.940 But the question is, obviously, today, is this the sort of, you know, I think it's a relationship
00:12:15.620 that in the long term on the right is running on fumes.
00:12:18.160 But are the fumes quite potent?
00:12:19.880 Was this a sort of dead cat bounce of the sort of neocon old guard approach to things?
00:12:24.600 Because they certainly got their way today.
00:12:26.120 And it has to be said.
00:12:27.340 And, you know, look, I mean, I hope that, you know, the Iranians will come to the table
00:12:32.360 and sign a deal.
00:12:33.060 And I hope that the Iranian counter response will be limited and not that lethal.
00:12:37.460 But this is a major roll of the dice.
00:12:40.020 And it is not at all clear the U.S. had much of a say in it.
00:12:45.060 It looks like a foreign government was in the driver's seat, which, you know, from an
00:12:49.240 America first perspective is is not great.
00:12:52.140 Well, as you were saying that, my mind goes to what happened in Russia and how, you know,
00:12:58.920 the Trump administration or Secretary Ruby, there is not as clearly a definitive statement
00:13:03.200 drawing a, you know, Chinese wall.
00:13:05.200 I guess all my metaphors today are rooted in PRC history.
00:13:09.660 But I guess, no, hopefully, hopefully no prophetic deal there with the rhetoric.
00:13:14.520 But I'm just curious how you think this interplays with other conflicts, whether Russia, Ukraine,
00:13:21.500 even China, how you think this will escalate or maybe how sort of re, I guess, orient the
00:13:29.820 United States' strategic position in that conflict.
00:13:34.340 Yeah, I mean, I think the curious thing is that Trump is so often a dissenter of the Washington
00:13:38.640 blob that so much wants to divide the world into two different axes.
00:13:42.780 I mean, like the watchword of the Biden administration was the alleged axis of autocracies anchored around
00:13:49.460 China, Russia and Iran.
00:13:51.980 And the reality is, you know, look, this particular strike could be forgotten in history.
00:13:56.980 It could all be gravy in six months, six weeks, six days time.
00:14:01.620 But the reality is, moves like this draw the Russians closer to the Chinese and draw the
00:14:07.040 Iranians closer to the Russians and the Chinese as well, and it becomes a sort of self-fulfilling
00:14:11.680 prophecy when we take these maneuvers.
00:14:14.280 And additionally, you know, the U.S. on the Middle East, not last month, but this month,
00:14:21.000 is out on a ledge.
00:14:23.300 You know, this was not approved by the reason, the region.
00:14:26.640 The Europeans are not game for this.
00:14:28.900 It's really just the Trump White House, apparently, although as recently as 24 hours ago, there
00:14:35.520 was considerable doubt, and the Netanyahu government.
00:14:38.420 And the Netanyahu government might not be there any time.
00:14:42.960 I mean, Netanyahu's political position is extremely precarious.
00:14:45.340 So it's certainly a high-risk, high-reward move by Netanyahu.
00:14:49.660 And it's just not entirely clear how this served Trump or American interests.
00:14:54.520 But, you know, Trump has made bold maneuvers on Iran before.
00:14:59.360 He made it in January 2020.
00:15:01.640 Greater war was averted, I think, you know, because of a lot of heroic lobbying behind the
00:15:07.740 scenes, frankly.
00:15:09.700 And it's very possible that this will be art of the deal, and this will result in a durable
00:15:14.880 Trump-Iran deal.
00:15:15.820 But as of now, the person in the driver's seat has been Benjamin Netanyahu, who does not
00:15:22.380 want an Iran deal.
00:15:23.860 And, in fact, you know, wants a ratchet to regime change war, a la Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
00:15:28.880 And the Israelis, this is the reporting that I do believe, are actively lobbying the U.S.
00:15:34.060 to get involved in a war.
00:15:35.600 And it's just, you know, does Trump want to use all his domestic credibility?
00:15:39.920 Does Trump want to use all his political capital on this?
00:15:42.680 Because, you know, it's very easy.
00:15:44.100 It's like any human organization, you take over a company, you take over, you know, a
00:15:50.120 college, you take over anything, and you think you want to do all these things.
00:15:53.200 And I think almost any executive will tell you, you really only have the opportunity to
00:15:56.800 do a few things.
00:15:57.740 And if you get into a war, that's the whole enchilada.
00:16:02.360 I'm curious, last question, in terms of, you know, being forced to prioritize this region,
00:16:09.500 this conflict, where do you think that directly impacts President Trump's agenda the most?
00:16:16.240 Is it, you know, a Ukraine-Russia peace or ceasefire?
00:16:20.160 Is it what's going on at the southern border?
00:16:21.720 Is it, you know, the leverage with the tariff negotiations?
00:16:25.020 Where do you think this could potentially really hit the MAGA legacy where it hurts?
00:16:29.680 Yeah, I mean, I think all three of them, frankly.
00:16:32.640 So, I mean, very quickly, Russia-Ukraine.
00:16:35.840 Russia is an ally of Iran.
00:16:37.220 Iran is an ally of Russia.
00:16:38.640 Additionally, the U.S.'s word in negotiations is now questioned by this maneuver.
00:16:42.680 And so it makes it less likely that the Russians will trust the American word.
00:16:46.160 I think that's a recoverable reality.
00:16:48.880 It is not the end of the world.
00:16:50.460 But I think it is a negative precedent for a durable deal with the Russians and one that
00:16:55.460 should be swiftly corrected by Washington and the White House.
00:16:58.480 On immigration, so, you know, this was very much done at the urging of the Israeli state.
00:17:04.740 This was, in fact, affected by the Israeli state.
00:17:07.520 Part of what the Netanyahu government wants is mass deportations in Gaza.
00:17:12.760 So the U.S. can barely do mass deportations in the United States, as I'm sure both you and
00:17:17.400 your viewership is well aware.
00:17:19.040 If the U.S. puts all of its hard power resources into mass deportations in a country that is
00:17:25.300 not the United States, that's a pretty clear tradeoff.
00:17:27.720 And then third, you know, trade negotiations going on of 190 countries.
00:17:32.260 Again, the U.S. word, forget the U.S. word, Trump's word is now in greater question.
00:17:38.140 And I think it does affect the American leverage to extract concessions for the American worker
00:17:44.900 and the American consumer.
00:17:45.920 And so, yeah, look, this might be part of a longer arc that makes sense in three, four,
00:17:51.220 five days.
00:17:51.740 So I think it's very important to keep our powder dry at this moment.
00:17:55.800 But if the entire Trump project is going to be geared and driven by a foreign capital,
00:18:01.560 that raises serious questions about how credible and how effective all of this will be.
00:18:06.880 And the reality is we've seen this show before.
00:18:09.880 The George W. Bush White House worked hook, line and sinker with the Israelis.
00:18:14.840 It's a complex situation, but much of the Israeli establishment wanted what the George W. Bush
00:18:19.500 White House wanted.
00:18:20.660 And those people are gone from power.
00:18:23.040 And the Bush legacy is terrible.
00:18:24.620 And it's one that President Trump should actively avoid.
00:18:27.740 Kurt Mills, as always, thank you so much for coming on and breaking it down.
00:18:33.620 If people want to follow you in the meantime before we have you back on, where can they
00:18:36.300 go to do that?
00:18:38.000 Sure.
00:18:38.400 Yeah.
00:18:38.560 The magazine is The American Conservative, presciently founded in 2002 against the Iraq
00:18:42.800 War.
00:18:43.220 It's www.theamericanconservative.com, founded by Pat Buchanan, Scott McConnell and others.
00:18:48.980 And then my own personal correspondence running the magazine is at Kurt Mills, at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-S
00:18:55.320 on X.
00:18:56.100 Thank you for your time.
00:18:58.460 Thank you, sir, for joining us.
00:18:59.700 We'll have you back on soon.
00:19:03.720 More in posse in the meantime, make sure you're checking out birchgold.com slash Bannon.
00:19:07.860 I think for all the times we've called the world turbulent, today is probably a glowing,
00:19:11.740 if not glaring example of that.
00:19:13.560 You can also text Bannon to 989898 and give Philip Patrick and the team a call.
00:19:17.640 I've heard firsthand that they love speaking to you guys.
00:19:21.120 So represent the posse.
00:19:22.420 Well, that's birchgold.com slash Bannon.
00:19:25.840 If we have Mike Davis up, I will go to him.
00:19:28.920 Do we have him, Denver?
00:19:31.060 No?
00:19:31.580 All right.
00:19:31.880 Then we're going to go even better.
00:19:33.900 Equally good.
00:19:34.600 All the good guys.
00:19:35.840 It's a murderer's row.
00:19:37.820 That's what Steve would probably say of a show tonight.
00:19:40.080 We've got Dave Walsh, who I wanted to bring on, obviously, when we talk about modern warfare.
00:19:44.460 You know, we always hammer how it's not just the kinetic battlefield itself, right?
00:19:48.980 There's ramifications, whether it's the rare earths, the batteries, the magnets, the semiconductors,
00:19:54.460 unrestricted warfare, I guess, agricultural bioterrorism.
00:19:57.860 The CCP is interested in waging that.
00:20:00.760 Dave, I'm just curious to get your thoughts on how what's happening in Iran, what Israel's
00:20:04.800 doing is going to affect not just energy prices here at home, but also President Trump's broader
00:20:11.220 kind of energy agenda.
00:20:14.220 Well, in the immediate term, you know, price per barrel has blipped up on Brent crude today
00:20:19.160 by three to four bucks, depending on the time of day.
00:20:21.900 So already some reaction of, you know, possibility of a four months shutdown and the related consequences
00:20:28.540 of this action, but all proving one more time that domestic self-dependency on that which is 92%
00:20:36.640 of the United States energy supply all in, oil, gas, coal, nuclear power, not renewables, oil and gas
00:20:43.840 right at the peak.
00:20:45.140 We have got to be self-sufficient.
00:20:46.920 We've got to be self-determining on this.
00:20:48.680 We've got to have to remain the largest producer in the world of oil and gas.
00:20:53.360 Natural gas is our number one export commodity now in the country.
00:20:57.040 So you've seen a balance of trade improvement, massive balance of trade improvement related
00:21:01.660 to the tariffs, while oil and gas are right at the top of the list of our two top items
00:21:07.240 in terms of export value.
00:21:08.980 So the criticality to the economy.
00:21:11.280 But this just proves once again, remember, though, China is an ally of Iran.
00:21:16.340 Iran have a deal with China for 20 years of supply at Brent crude, minus 40%, a massive
00:21:23.400 discount that they enjoy.
00:21:25.380 So they're very tied in with China militarily, military hardware and technology, come back
00:21:30.480 to Iran inside of that oil deal.
00:21:32.520 So they're very, very tightly related.
00:21:34.280 So I think it augurs well to support President Trump's U.S.
00:21:39.000 self-dependency from not dependency on China for solar panels or inverters, not depending
00:21:45.000 on Iran for oil and gas, but producing the year is the way forward.
00:21:49.020 And so I think in the longer run, this supports, you know, this, whether or not we were involved
00:21:54.280 in it, hopefully we weren't actually, but it supports the need for self-dependence of
00:21:59.440 oil and gas.
00:22:01.400 I'm curious what your thoughts are on the rare earth deal that was reached with China or just
00:22:07.220 that sort of evolving space too.
00:22:09.700 Well, a little bit circumspect about that, because I'm watching here in Florida, the state
00:22:18.560 government, all over, total dependence on Chinese energy supply for, for example, for Florida.
00:22:24.760 $52 billion of CapEx in the next 10 years have been laid out by FPL, Duke Energy and TECO for
00:22:32.460 91% application of solar farms and utility scale battery storage, for example, in this
00:22:39.500 red state of Florida, 88% of which emanate from China.
00:22:44.920 We're frankly not interested in getting more of their rare earths here.
00:22:48.200 China is an enemy of this country.
00:22:50.520 We don't want to become dependent on them for our electricity supply.
00:22:54.000 As this state now has joined many red states with a very silent governor, actually promoting
00:23:00.600 a number of false flag legislation pieces that are actually supporting the continuance of
00:23:06.640 nothing but solar power and battery storage for Florida.
00:23:10.420 So a lot of concern about why we need Chinese rare earths.
00:23:14.920 We don't need them for energy production devices, inverters, battery storage.
00:23:20.040 We don't want that stuff here.
00:23:21.560 We don't want their thin film PV here.
00:23:23.380 It's too expensive and now it's dangerous with potential sensors in it, kill switches that
00:23:29.300 can shut down the electrification supply.
00:23:32.120 That may be what happened in Spain.
00:23:33.760 We still don't know.
00:23:35.380 But this, this costly energy from these devices is unaffordable for Americans.
00:23:41.180 Florida Power and Light has just filed a $9 billion rate increase all about all solar for
00:23:47.440 the next four years here.
00:23:48.640 As far as new CapEx, the highest rate increase applied for by a public utility in the history
00:23:55.280 of the United States of America.
00:23:57.240 So to my point, for these years and years on this forum, this kind of power is unaffordable
00:24:03.160 for average people in this country.
00:24:05.420 It's five times, six times more costly.
00:24:07.840 It's intermittent.
00:24:08.560 It's very part-time.
00:24:10.000 And by the way, like here in Florida, the sun value, the sunshine state, therefore this
00:24:14.040 might sound appealing, is about 24th in the nation in terms of solar concentration for power.
00:24:19.780 We have heavy cloud cover in the summer.
00:24:22.380 There's no special advantage to Florida for harvesting solar power that is operational
00:24:27.620 according to the NREL for only 5.2 hours a day.
00:24:31.420 So I'm not enamored with more Chinese dependency on rare earths or any other energy-related topic.
00:24:39.500 What do you think the White House should be doing to rectify the rare earths, not just the mineral
00:24:49.240 sourcing, but more precisely the processing?
00:24:54.140 Well, we have abundant rare earths in Alaska, in Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, Utah, West Texas,
00:25:03.380 New Mexico.
00:25:05.440 The nation has an abundant resource of those kinds of materials to get involved in mining,
00:25:13.420 cut loose the ability to mine, and process rare earths.
00:25:16.860 To the extent they're necessary, they need processed.
00:25:19.720 We can't delegate that to the third world because it's nasty and dirty.
00:25:24.840 Sure, it's not the cleanest thing in the world to process lithium and cobalt, but the fact of
00:25:30.440 the matter is, in a developed society, one needs access to those kinds of mineral elements.
00:25:37.060 So the ideation of harvesting that material in Alaska, in Idaho, in Arizona, New Mexico,
00:25:43.040 is fundamentally important.
00:25:44.820 Yeah, we have to put up with the fact that they're not so clean in terms of finding ways
00:25:49.780 to make the processing cleaner.
00:25:51.280 That's incumbent on us.
00:25:52.580 And not delegate that to the third world, such as with some kind of a colonialist.
00:25:58.300 Dave, if you can hang with us through the break.
00:25:59.920 I got a few more questions for you, but Warren Posse, this is why you guys got to be checking
00:26:04.680 out birchgold.com slash Bannon, giving Philip Patrick and the team a call.
00:26:11.320 I think the energy issue, the rare earth is a perfect example of how our elites, our ruling
00:26:16.320 class have put us in a position where there is, I was going to say, no advantage.
00:26:20.500 I would just take status quo, but they're not negotiating with your interests at heart.
00:26:25.940 I think, what was it, the company that helped reverse the offshoring of pharmaceutical
00:26:32.780 manufacturing to China in the same way you shouldn't be outsourcing your financial future
00:26:37.500 to your so-called betters, right?
00:26:39.720 Trusting the experts, whether it's the Fed, Congress, take your pick.
00:26:44.280 I think Congress certainly is demonstrating why you should not have any faith in them at
00:26:49.420 the current moment, the big, beautiful bill or otherwise.
00:26:52.800 But hey, I guess we got, what is it, $9 billion in cuts.
00:26:56.100 Yeah, don't mind if I don't clap for that.
00:26:58.580 Let's add a few more zeros than maybe you will.
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00:30:58.080 The judge has denied the state of California's request to stop Trump from using the California National Guard to keep the peace and keep order during these protests.
00:31:09.860 CNN's Elena Treen is at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, where President Trump is speaking.
00:31:14.480 And Elena, that's a big development, the judge denying California's request.
00:31:18.560 Tell us about that and tell us what the president has been saying in his Fort Bragg speech.
00:31:22.940 Thank you.
00:31:52.940 That decision from the court.
00:31:54.700 But to go back to some of the criticism we heard just now, I'm hearing him use that nickname for his derogatory nickname for Gavin.
00:32:02.160 It states active duty Marines, these heroes would be used to militarize the streets of an American city.
00:32:11.520 For no reason whatsoever than vanity theater to instill fear, to incite a response.
00:32:32.380 So I'm very hopeful this order puts that in perspective and hopefully Donald Trump will immediately back down.
00:32:43.200 The courts have ruled on the guard.
00:32:46.100 They will be back under my command and he'll be relieved.
00:32:49.280 Donald Trump will be believed of his command at noon tomorrow.
00:32:55.380 Welcome back to the war room where we are still joined by the one and only Dave Walsh.
00:33:03.860 But still, you guys always got to be checking out birchgold.com slash Bannon.
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00:33:13.560 It's no longer the end of the dollar empire, though.
00:33:15.600 That, I guess, is a very fitting title for the activities we've seen transpire today in the Middle East.
00:33:20.940 But give Philip Patrick and the team a call.
00:33:23.940 Like I always say, don't trust the experts.
00:33:25.980 Trust Birchgold.
00:33:28.100 But I think another area we should not be trusting the experts on is all things related to energy.
00:33:33.360 I would consider an actual expert, I'm sure not per the vernacular of the legacy media, would be Dave Walsh.
00:33:40.740 I know you've been running around the state of Florida, the great state of Florida.
00:33:44.160 I miss it. Talking to people, I'm sure a lot of war room posse members there.
00:33:48.940 But there's some interesting developments going on with Florida and solar, if you want to bring our audience up to speed.
00:33:56.020 Yeah, we have unbelievably in Florida with a red state government, we have Florida Power and Light has before the State Public Service Commission,
00:34:03.580 a rate increase application for $9 billion over the next four years to raise rates by across that time period, about 40 percent to their rate payers.
00:34:13.280 The highest single rate increase ever applied for in the nation by a regulated public utility in the country.
00:34:22.280 Why is it so expensive?
00:34:23.820 Because as I've been saying for three and a half years, four years, the cost of solar power is not free.
00:34:29.580 It is not cheap.
00:34:30.420 It is not average.
00:34:31.280 It's four to five times the cost of conventional power when you factor in how little time it runs and how much land is needed for this.
00:34:39.700 Denver has a little chart on it I sent along.
00:34:42.140 It's in that slide deck.
00:34:43.620 I don't know if I can throw it up.
00:34:44.480 But it shows across the next 10 years, the three utilities here plan, a filed plan with the Southeast Reliability Council, the left-hand side of this, you can see of $53 billion in capital spending planned by the utilities here the next 10 years, $45.3 billion, about 86 percent of it on solar and battery storage.
00:35:04.840 This isn't about rooftop.
00:35:06.760 This is utility-scale solar farms that will consume 299,000 acres of Florida property, see the money involved, $53 billion capital planned overall by the three utilities.
00:35:18.340 So FPL have just plugged in for the first four years of their piece of this at $9 billion in rate hikes to pay for solar panels emanating from China, inverters emanating from China, battery storage emanating from China being the dominant, dominant share of this.
00:35:34.400 If you go to the right-hand chart, you can see the power that comes from this in yellow, only being about a third of the pie, meaning the little bit of combined cycle and gas fire being added in the next 10 years, will about equal the solar megawatt hours, but for one-tenth the money, owing to the commentary that I've been providing, how expensive this solar power and battery storage is.
00:36:02.540 So you're seeing the effect in rates with this $9 billion rate increase that will drive up utility costs for Florida Power and Light rate payers by about 40 percent over a four-year period.
00:36:12.820 We have got to throw our bodies in front of it for the rate payers here on the POSSE.
00:36:17.880 This is a submittal 202-511.
00:36:22.520 That's the filing number with the PSE, 202-500-11, the rate case.
00:36:27.860 Please contact PSE.state.fl.us.
00:36:33.180 That's the clerk of the Florida PSE.
00:36:36.220 Send the clerk your feelings about the $9 billion entirely solar power-driven rate increase that FPL is attempting to push forward at this point in time.
00:36:47.820 Your state government right now is doing precious little to stand in the way of it, unfortunately.
00:36:52.740 Dave Walsh, as always, thank you so much for coming on, and I think having our audience be ahead of the curve on issues that actually impact them.
00:37:04.040 I don't know, but you guys, I don't want to be reliant on the PRC for power or weird green energy solar-loving bureaucrats, even in red states.
00:37:13.080 If people want to follow you in the meantime before you're back on with us, where can they go to do that?
00:37:17.740 You can catch me on Truth Social, GatoranX, at DaveWalshEnergy.
00:37:20.920 Thanks so much for having me.
00:37:22.680 Thank you.
00:37:23.760 Thank you, sir.
00:37:25.100 Enjoy Florida.
00:37:26.040 I'm envious.
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00:37:34.640 I'm currently in D.C.
00:37:36.480 They are having the big Army 250 celebration.
00:37:39.860 I was on the National Mall earlier today.
00:37:41.540 I've seen all the helicopters and tanks and missile launchers.
00:37:45.560 It's quite the display they're putting on.
00:37:47.680 The city is full of National Guardsmen.
00:37:51.380 I saw some, shall we say, shady-looking Chinese people taking pictures of the military equipment, but I guess that's part for the course.
00:37:59.840 I'm not surprised.
00:38:00.680 But it's probably as good a day as ever to check out Patriot Mobile, celebrate, I guess, the Army's 250th birthday and President Trump's birthday and flag day.
00:38:10.360 A bunch of exciting things.
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00:38:16.120 I've been overhearing, like I was telling you guys, I'm in D.C.
00:38:19.500 All the Capitol Hill liberals are planning their weekend getaways because they don't want to be in D.C.
00:38:24.860 and experience the Army 250th birthday, or you have the other contingent that is participating in the No Kings protests.
00:38:32.300 So I guess now Democrats aren't just taking the horrible optics of opposing secure borders.
00:38:38.560 They're raiding ICE facilities, but now they're going to be actually protesting against the United States military.
00:38:43.900 That is today's Democratic Party, aided and abetted.
00:38:48.260 I guess it used to be lawfare.
00:38:49.740 It's still that, but now it's really the judges and judicial activism.
00:38:53.180 And I think there's probably no person who is more of a threat to these rogue judges than the one and only Mike Davis.
00:39:03.360 Mike, we played in the cold open Gavin Newsom's bizarre speech.
00:39:07.740 Jake Tapper and the CNN Harpies celebrating just a ridiculous ruling saying that the National Guard in California, President Trump, can't deploy them there or whatever.
00:39:17.540 I want you to just walk just our audience through the absurdity, outright activism.
00:39:23.640 I guess now they're not just content with being activists.
00:39:25.760 They want to be the commander in chief, but of these radical judges.
00:39:30.080 Yeah, this is unbelievable.
00:39:31.840 President Trump campaigned on the fact he's going to secure our border and deport illegal aliens, all of whom are criminals.
00:39:39.060 And he's going to focus on the worst of the worst to start out.
00:39:44.000 Trendy Aragua, MS-13, and other vicious terrorists who are raping, kidnapping, torturing, and murdering women and children in this country.
00:39:53.640 And President Trump is doing exactly what he promised American voters he would do.
00:39:59.480 He's doing these ICE raids, and he's going into where these illegal aliens are the most concentrated, like L.A.
00:40:08.820 And when President Trump did this, you had the L.A. mayor, Karen Bass, and the California governor, Gavin Newsom, refuse to cooperate.
00:40:18.960 And they've actually gone beyond that.
00:40:21.200 They've gone beyond from refusing to cooperate to obstructing law enforcement.
00:40:27.120 And they've created this dangerous environment where you had ICE agents getting attacked, bricks thrown at them, cars set on fire, vicious attacks by these illegal aliens, these foreign terrorists flying foreign flags attacking American law enforcement.
00:40:50.020 So President Trump did what he is required to do as commander in chief.
00:40:54.240 He sent in the military.
00:40:56.300 He called up the California National Guard to protect these federal agents and to protect federal property.
00:41:04.380 And that is absolutely not only within his power and duty as the commander in chief under Article II.
00:41:11.980 That's within his statutory duty under the United States Code.
00:41:17.140 These military officials are not performing law enforcement duties.
00:41:21.940 They are supporting federal law enforcement.
00:41:25.240 They're protecting federal law enforcement.
00:41:27.400 And they're protecting federal property.
00:41:29.260 And so what does Gavin Newsom do?
00:41:31.380 First of all, he forum shops.
00:41:32.900 He doesn't bring a lawsuit in federal court in Los Angeles.
00:41:36.220 He brings a lawsuit in federal court in San Francisco where he knows it's more left wing.
00:41:41.340 And he draws this 83-year-old judge, this Clinton judge, Charles Breyer, who's the 83-year-old younger brother of Clinton Supreme Court Justice, Stephen Breyer.
00:41:54.020 And this Charles Breyer issues this lawless and dangerous ruling telling the president of the United States that he has to give up control of the military to Gavin Newsom, which is just absurd on its face.
00:42:08.320 Gavin Newsom went out there and claims victory because he's a clown, of course.
00:42:14.080 And so then the Ninth Circuit, which President Trump transforms from Democrat domination to a little bit more even-handed,
00:42:23.800 President Trump won a big victory in the Ninth Circuit where they stayed this Judge Breyer ruling in favor of Gavin Newsom and told the parties they have five days to brief this thing and have oral arguments.
00:42:36.440 I think the Ninth Circuit is going to side with President Trump as commander-in-chief because that's what the Constitution requires.
00:42:44.800 That's what federal statute requires.
00:42:48.340 I'm curious your thoughts on the legal ramifications that the protesters themselves could face, how that investigation is going.
00:42:58.500 Going also into the federal funding of a lot of these NGOs that help sort of spin up these demonstrations to begin with.
00:43:06.540 Yeah, I think Congress needs to cut off funding to state and local governments that refuse to cooperate with ICE.
00:43:15.600 That's actually already the statute, so they just need to do it.
00:43:18.560 And then with these NGOs, the Trump administration needs to cut off funding to these NGOs who are rioting.
00:43:28.040 It's amazing how these Democrats are going to hunt down every Trump supporter who trespassed, walked through velvet ropes and took selfies on January 6th.
00:43:39.660 But they seem to want to give amnesty to the BLM rioters in 2020 and these vicious foreign terrorist rioters in 2025.
00:43:50.220 I would say it's different this time because we don't have Bill Barr as the attorney general.
00:43:56.160 We don't have a weakling as attorney general who's going to be scared he's going to get impeached.
00:44:01.020 We have a new sheriff in town.
00:44:02.900 That is Attorney General Pam Bondi.
00:44:04.760 I'm curious, we had a guest on the show yesterday who was talking about how a lot of these NGOs, beyond inciting these protests and probably helping import illegal aliens,
00:44:34.340 although I will recant my use of the word protest, these violent riots, that part of their strategy is to also have what they call legal observers there to sort of try to get the police or the National Guard or whoever may be sort of, you know, a proxy of President Trump and then sue them.
00:44:52.000 I don't know, criminally, civilly or how so, but to sort of, you know, keep their hands tied in terms of what they can do to engage with these rioters.
00:45:00.580 I'm curious your thoughts on that strategy.
00:45:02.440 Well, these police officers have qualified immunity, and I would say this, I think the Justice Department's already looking at the funding of these riots.
00:45:14.300 If you want to talk about this, if you want to talk about an insurrection, when you have illegal aliens flying a foreign flag and attacking federal agents, attacking federal buildings, burning federal ICE police cars, going after state and local police, that sounds like an insurrection to me.
00:45:33.760 But I'll tell you this, that there are going to be severe consequences for this.
00:45:39.040 Pam Bondi and Kash Patel will make damn sure that happens.
00:45:42.420 And last question before I let you go, only because it's such an absurd realization that I think only you can make sense of it, but I mean, I'm old enough to remember that it was what the Biden regime, I think the administrative state, really rededicating, making their raison d'etre, the idea of combating domestic terrorism, right?
00:46:03.580 To the point that they were sending FBI details in church parking lots and abortion parking lots, throwing thousands of MAGA, Jan Sixers in prison, all in the name of curtailing what really can only be, I think, probably most emblematically described or seen when you've probably watched on your TV of what's going on in Los Angeles.
00:46:23.040 Like, this is domestic terrorism, except in this case, the federal funding is not going to suppress it.
00:46:30.220 Obviously, they're not using it in its realist application against MAGA, but they're, if I'm not wrong, they're inciting it.
00:46:36.500 They're funding it.
00:46:37.300 This is like a public-private partnership to create protests.
00:46:40.340 Yeah, we have, we need to look at criminal charges for inciting these riots, aiding and abetting, harboring illegal aliens, obstruction of federal law enforcement,
00:46:52.260 conspiracy, maybe even seditious conspiracy and insurrection that Democrats tried to use against President Trump and his supporters.
00:47:01.120 This is so much, this is so much more destructive to our country than January 6th.
00:47:09.340 You have these illegal aliens, these foreign terrorists, flying foreign flags, attacking federal officers, property, state and local.
00:47:20.320 So, there are going to be consequences for this, and Pam Bondi and Kash Patel will make damn sure that happens.
00:47:28.680 Mike Davis, as always, thank you for joining us.
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00:47:48.020 Have a wonderful weekend.
00:47:49.700 As wonderful as we can during these times.
00:47:54.160 Thank you so much for joining us.
00:47:55.380 Warren Posse, thank you for hanging with me.
00:47:58.940 I think we should be telling all the LA rioters, F-A-F-O, and I guess what they're going to find out is all their shady, swampy NGOs that are funded,
00:48:08.120 not just to the tune of $10 million increments of that, several increments, but that the overall percentage of these fake groups,
00:48:17.440 whether it's CHURLA, the SEIU, all these horrible names that sound quite innocuous, right?
00:48:22.860 The, you know, open borders for all group.
00:48:24.840 Oh, they just want a better life.
00:48:26.160 Yeah.
00:48:26.380 Okay.
00:48:26.580 Well, what they don't tell you when they say they want a better life, it's at the expense of yours, your children, and your country's sovereignty.
00:48:34.860 But these groups are funded, like, upwards of 90% overall by government grants.
00:48:40.020 These are not, frankly, I think it dovetails quite nicely with the framework of the color revolution.
00:48:44.900 These are astroturfed sentiments.
00:48:46.780 Sure, there's crazy people that they can always rile up and probably pay, we remember, I'm sure you guys do, Indivisible,
00:48:53.780 which is playing a very key role in the No Kings protest, sort of an outgrowth of what's going on, not just in LA,
00:49:00.520 but particularly on President Trump's birthday against the military parade.
00:49:04.480 But this was the group that I believe I had exclusively exposed, that they were reimbursing nationwide chapters for hosting town halls to try to oppose Republican members of Congress for supporting the doge cuts,
00:49:19.980 if only the doge cuts were as dramatic and sweeping as Democrats and their paid-for activists had wished for.
00:49:29.000 But these groups are all working together now, right?
00:49:33.720 It's not actually about the thing itself.
00:49:35.780 But I think the other important takeaway from what's going on in LA, frankly, it's why we needed ramifications,
00:49:43.800 not just for what happened in 2008, but everything that happened with Iraq and Afghanistan, the neocons, their endless warmongering.
00:49:50.820 When they get away with it, they do it again.
00:49:53.540 And when they get away with pandemics like Anthony Fauci, they do it again.
00:49:56.680 And now the same people who organized the invasion into this country to the tune of tens of millions of people,
00:50:04.300 not just under Joe Biden, but historically, frankly, everybody who lobbied for what was it, the post-1964 Immigration and Naturalization Act changes.
00:50:14.700 I think those people should be in prison for what they've done to this country.
00:50:17.460 But they faced no criminal charges for quite literally destroying the sovereignty of this country and importing people,
00:50:24.620 not just from Mexico, but from nations that are our sworn enemies.
00:50:28.440 You have effectively sleeper cells of Chinese nationals.
00:50:31.760 That sounds like a great advantage for us to have during tariff negotiations,
00:50:36.300 literal sleeper cells of fighting-age Chinese men here in the United States that we don't even know how many they are or where they are,
00:50:42.780 because the Biden regime changed the regulations and we were letting them in,
00:50:46.560 so we no longer asked them if they had weapons training or were members of the PRC, or rather the CCP.
00:50:52.840 But all of this to say that the same people who organized that invasion will continue to fund and organize these riots,
00:50:59.880 not just the ones in L.A., but the ones that are going to be going on throughout this country,
00:51:03.600 because they keep getting away with it, right?
00:51:06.720 If victory begets victory, then I guess, you know, invasion begets paid protest,
00:51:11.980 begets paid protest, begets paid protest.
00:51:15.820 And that's how you end up with, I guess, on Flag Day and celebrating the Army's 250th birthday,
00:51:23.160 an entire onslaught of rabid, raging left-wing radicals who feel comfortable opposing the United States military.
00:51:31.000 It's pretty disgusting if you ask me, but I guess if you don't think America is a country,
00:51:36.580 then, hey, I wonder why they hate Iran so much, right?
00:51:39.200 They say death to America.
00:51:40.540 That's basically what these people are saying, too, although they probably describe America in worse terms.
00:51:46.180 On that note, I do hope you guys have a wonderful weekend and a wonderful 250th birthday of America's Army.
00:51:53.060 Have a good one. I'll see you soon.
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