Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 794： Future Shock： Massive Data Breach, OpenAI Surveillance, and the Quantum Apocalypse

00:00:00.000 look who's back steve bannon seen at the white house on the very same day that president

00:00:15.920 trump announced the two-week timeline on iran does bannon have the president's year

00:00:21.680 is longtime trump advisor steve bannon wouldn't you know it this morning steve bannon was spotted

00:00:28.280 entering the white house there he is a senior white house official said that bannon and trump had

00:00:34.180 lunch together a meeting that was supposed to take place weeks ago but was rescheduled and maybe

00:00:39.360 that's true who knows and also consider this just before that announcement from the press secretary

00:00:44.320 caroline levitt this afternoon that two-week timeline the president's former advisor steve

00:00:49.400 bannon was spotted by cnn entering the west wing sources told me he had lunch with the president

00:00:55.080 maga firebrand and trump's former strategist steve bannon was spotted at the white house

00:01:00.400 interesting that in the dark shadows of the white house another figure seems to have appeared

00:01:05.620 and that is one steve bannon uh steve bannon has uh the white house officials say that

00:01:10.900 trump and bannon had lunch today um the lunch was scheduled for weeks but nonetheless they have the

00:01:17.020 lunch where the hell is he people okay there he is here he goes tell grab team a go he's still 0.62

00:01:27.480 talking with somebody getting instructions jimmy give me the conversation block the box block the

00:01:31.280 box moving grab team c get me a feed in there i want grab team c in there tell me what's going on

00:01:37.560 jesus christ that steve bannon

00:01:46.160 why would it come back now

00:01:50.280 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on

00:02:02.760 these people here's when i got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people

00:02:09.200 have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the

00:02:13.300 world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like

00:02:16.900 that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a

00:02:25.120 conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country

00:02:32.920 this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:02:39.660 it's friday 20 june year of lor 2025 was that the was that the government of

00:02:47.400 that's all it hang on stop that's a security camera tape how did morning joe get that

00:02:52.880 you can't do a for you request overnight literally how did they get the security camera

00:02:58.620 what's most important i think it's the first time my producer's ever been on camera his mother called

00:03:03.680 me today quite upset may make him go home go back to uh to to where he comes from um that's amazing

00:03:12.940 thanks for putting that together yeah complete meltdown i love it the dark shadows

00:03:16.640 the dark specter um i'm going to get to ray dalio here in a moment ray dalio told you in the last

00:03:24.520 hour look whether you like him or not whether you think he's worked with the chinese communist party

00:03:28.520 or not how he made his money or not he runs the biggest hedge fund in the country and where hedge

00:03:33.300 funds are a major part of the financial industry he's written a couple books his last one how countries

00:03:40.440 go broke is pretty impressive why because he's preaching the gospel of the war room what you've

00:03:48.440 been taught here over the last four years and when a guy like ray dalio decides to put that in a book

00:03:53.780 it means that people think it's important so we think it's important for you to understand it the big

00:03:57.820 takeaway in the first clip was that uh hey you got this gap seven train spend five training revenue

00:04:06.720 unless you either cut grow unless you either grow faster cut or uh raise taxes you're not gonna be

00:04:14.800 able to finance what he's gonna say the three percent solution is to get to it's kind of scott

00:04:19.240 you know the three three three but particularly to get to three percent of um deficits to gdp right

00:04:26.540 now it's about seven that's not sustainable three percent you're not at a balanced budget it's not

00:04:32.760 great but you can live with it it means you're still going to have massive deficits going forward

00:04:37.920 and yes you're going to mount up this debt which we don't like but that's just i think the financial

00:04:43.940 structure of the economy in the country right now and where we are in politics i think that's just

00:04:49.000 going to be a reality we're going to break down the big beautiful bill which by the way tolls

00:04:53.060 terribly one of the reasons i said you can't call it a big beautiful bill forever because it confuses

00:04:57.780 people and they think it's all about spending which is not so we'll get more into that that's

00:05:03.980 what you have to prepare people this is why we say on this situation in persia nobody's prepared for

00:05:09.800 because they don't fully understand it they certainly don't understand the military aspects of it and why

00:05:14.640 it's so essential now now now to go take out the nuclear weapon we've asked brian kennedy come on

00:05:20.140 brian's one of the smartest guys to know and kind of revered by the audience for being a safe pair of

00:05:25.800 hands we had a fire breather on this morning uh brian kennedy one of the smartest guys around very well

00:05:32.580 connected to the intel community alex jones and alex kind of dropped for the people that don't pay

00:05:37.620 attention this closely kind of dropped a bombshell that iran already has a nuclear weapon um i like

00:05:45.160 your observing about and if that's the case why are we making such a big deal about ford or if they

00:05:49.720 already got a nuke uh and they've had any means at all to deliver it right why are we making such a

00:05:55.640 big deal about the the remaining part of their nuclear bomb making capability sir

00:06:02.020 well thank you steve yeah no it's uh it was a bombshell that uh that alex would say it on the

00:06:09.220 show i wrote as much in a piece for the american mind on wednesday um i've been part of the the

00:06:17.620 missile defense community for some time and we worried for over 20 years that the iranians had

00:06:23.880 either acquired nuclear weapons from pakistan or from north korea or had built them themselves

00:06:31.560 now they've been working with the north koreans and the russians and the chinese for almost 40 years

00:06:38.840 on both nuclear technology missile technology warhead design and what have you the russians

00:06:47.740 obviously have nuclear weapons the chinese do the north koreans with the help of russia and china 1.00

00:06:53.640 have also developed them as we well know but the iranians were working with the north koreans the whole

00:06:59.940 time almost every single missile that the iranians use is a north korean design the idea that the

00:07:09.020 iranians couldn't have acquired from north korea either bought or been given them by north korea

00:07:14.720 seems illogical given the strategic relationship that both russia and china have with iran they use

00:07:24.480 iran as a surrogate and so the idea that they couldn't have been given nuclear weapons seems a

00:07:31.480 bit far-fetched and also the iranian scientists are first class they may not have all the facilities

00:07:38.980 that other nations do but the idea that they couldn't have enriched uranium to the point where

00:07:45.000 they could use it in a warhead also seems far-fetched one of the things we pointed out for a long time

00:07:51.440 has been that in the 2000s the iranians tested in the caspian sea the ability to launch a ballistic

00:08:00.520 missile from a ship in the caspian sea they launched it and they exploded in this simulation

00:08:07.320 a dummy warhead in the high atmosphere to simulate an electromagnetic pulse attack

00:08:14.060 now you wouldn't use that in the middle east against israel but you would use it against the united

00:08:19.900 states and in the scenarios that have been developed the idea could be that iran would have a freighter

00:08:27.780 ship off either coast of the united states and there are almost 50 000 freighter ships on the water at

00:08:33.680 any given time you launch the ballistic missile in the high atmosphere exploded over the united states

00:08:41.080 and destroy our electric grid which would kill millions and millions of people that's not fear

00:08:47.120 that's just sort of the strategic design of how you would use an emp weapon but in that scenario as

00:08:54.120 i describe in this essay that ship is sunk and you don't know exactly who to retaliate to we wouldn't

00:09:00.380 know if the north koreans did it the iranians the chinese or the russians but we would know we had been

00:09:05.360 attacked if you're communist china and we're on the verge of real hostility with communist china when it 0.80

00:09:13.820 comes to taiwan you're going to use a surrogate like iran against the united states that scenario

00:09:21.040 seems far more likely to me because in that scenario we're not going to launch a full-scale nuclear attack

00:09:28.140 on iran if iran has nuclear weapons today from our point of view you know we have our own considerations

00:09:38.620 we can build a missile defense to stop them today president trump should be deploying air and naval

00:09:44.800 assets on both of our coasts to make sure we're defended from a ship-launched ballistic missile attack

00:09:50.780 that's with well within our ability to do president trump with his golden dome wants to build missile

00:09:57.020 defenses for this country so that's that scenario is entirely taken out if you're israel on the other 0.99

00:10:03.740 hand you have a different calculation your calculation is that iran in a kind of messianic way or

00:10:11.020 millionaireist kind of way decides to create a worldwide apocalypse and don't care themselves

00:10:18.460 that they're destroyed and so if they have the nuclear weapons no israeli prime minister could admit

00:10:25.980 publicly that they have the nuclear weapons president trump has said they cannot have nuclear weapons

00:10:32.460 if we absolutely acknowledge they have nuclear weapons the logic for that would be president trump

00:10:37.740 would have to go to war immediately president trump in a commonsensical way is trying to find a

00:10:43.820 different path here he is trying to find some negotiated settlement right winston churchill said better

00:10:51.580 to jaw jaw than to war war president trump in that commonsensical way is trying to figure out whether

00:10:58.460 there's a peaceful settlement to this because war could escalate rapidly and we don't know when it

00:11:07.420 escalates so let me understand this let me understand it you're telling me that u.s intelligence

00:11:13.020 because you clearly got this from u.s intelligence some sources u.s intelligence are saying that the

00:11:18.460 the iranians already have a nuclear weapon and have the ability to deliver to the to to actually hit

00:11:24.700 either through an air burst or some other methodology the united states or continental united states

00:11:31.740 they did we had that knowledge in the 2000s that they have the ability to do that

00:11:36.540 and no that was that part of it was not controversial the question was whether they have the warhead

00:11:42.460 and no and what do you mean they had the nuclear capability but they don't have the warhead

00:11:47.660 to actually decide and then they don't really have a weapon correct no no it was believed they had

00:11:53.420 the nuclear it was believed they had a ballistic missile and could launch it from a freighter ship

00:11:59.100 right the only question is whether in those intervening 20 years they have a warhead that they

00:12:04.140 could use to actually do that and as i'm arguing or suggesting and alex jones said on the show this

00:12:11.100 morning they already have that nuclear weapon now and the reason people think they have one is it's been

00:12:17.420 a long time that for them working on right and you're saying and by that have this warhead correct

00:12:24.380 right why are they not using that then to back off the the israelis the key of these guys getting

00:12:31.980 the guys that had nuclear weapons like the pakistanis don't get overthrown the people 1.00

00:12:36.300 or the israelis because the israelis have what 221 nuclear weapons the people that don't have them

00:12:41.980 like qaddafi or saddam hussein get overthrown i mean this is why the rush is to get to a nuclear

00:12:48.060 weapon if i get a nuclear weapon i can keep everybody at bay is not that not the strategic logic here

00:12:55.100 well that would be one strategic logic um it's it's it may be the wrong logic they may be the

00:13:01.420 iranians may think that the chinese or the russians are back in their play and that the israelis

00:13:06.860 won't use nuclear weapons or that there won't be a nuclear exchange because the americans will step

00:13:11.900 in or the chinese or the russians will step in the israelis have been pretty restrained over the last

00:13:17.980 how many decades knowing that this was a possibility my own judgment is that they looked at president

00:13:23.420 trump and thought we're never going to get a better president to do this our calculation if we're the

00:13:29.340 israelis is iran iran is an unstable regime that may use these to destroy us therefore we're going to

00:13:36.220 act now we'll have president trump in office he's as solid as you're going to get and we'll have three

00:13:41.900 years with him to reconstitute the middle east politically he'll have the israelis are going to

00:13:48.140 calculate they have supportive saudis that's all that's all that's all fine from their calculation

00:13:52.540 i understand that but here's the thing last thursday why did they have to go on a sneak attack

00:13:57.820 last thursday when president trump had and it stated that he was looking for a diplomatic solution and

00:14:03.900 had scheduled in muscat oman the sixth sessions that he had with whitkoff and others now maybe

00:14:11.180 they weren't making the progress maybe they came back and said we don't like the deal we're only

00:14:15.020 going to have verification we're not going to let you take a part could have been all kinds of things

00:14:18.140 in the diplomacy and we know that a lot of that's true but what was the rush to go last a week ago

00:14:25.340 today was their big triumph and pete you know beating their chest uh shock and awe what what caused them to

00:14:30.620 go then and particularly what caused them what sticks in people's craw is why they did this

00:14:37.420 understanding which they've been very open about they couldn't finish the deal they would actually

00:14:41.900 need they would get here and get hung out to dry taking incoming on their civilians and not and by the

00:14:48.700 way run out of air missiles and have to come back to the united states as a supplicant and ask for more

00:14:53.820 on credit because they're not paying cash money on the barrelhead our special relationship is we just

00:14:59.020 give them what they want it's going to cost like 14 billion dollars i think the calculation is but

00:15:03.260 even worse they need us for the coup de grace how can anybody justify that my my issue is not oh

00:15:10.940 do they have a nuclear weapon not all this is all interesting it doesn't get to the heart of it

00:15:16.220 benjamin netanyahu for his own personal political dilemma created this sense of urgency that doesn't exist

00:15:23.260 doesn't exist created it and did the salesman's upsell we have to have regime change and fox news

00:15:30.620 is boom boom boom this iraq war all over again it's so phony and so obvious brian kennedy am i wrong in

00:15:37.340 this and i said by the way i fully support the israelis taking if they want to do regime change go for it

00:15:43.980 i don't care that's their call it's israel first and particularly if they want to take out the nuclear 0.79

00:15:48.700 threat was supposed to be so awful they should finish what they started we didn't start it

00:15:55.100 they started it they should finish it is what is wrong with my logic sir i agree with you i agree

00:16:00.220 with you a thousand percent steve they should finish what they started it wasn't our job our strategy has

00:16:06.700 to begin first and foremost with what is good for the united states it's their get out for what is good

00:16:12.860 for israel they started it they need to finish it they must have calculated they had the capability 0.82

00:16:19.020 to both start it and finish it if they didn't that's just foolish on their part from our point of

00:16:25.100 view we're not prepared for war with iran in the middle east the way i've just described in that scenario

00:16:31.980 and so they didn't consult us this was not our idea to do this and the president in negotiating for

00:16:37.900 peace was doing the right thing and i agree with you about that rush it is now up to israel to finish

00:16:44.380 this it's it's their job if they want to change the regime in iran i think that would be a very good

00:16:50.380 thing but it's not the job of the united states to do that it's the job of the israelis but even better

00:16:56.940 it's the job of the iranians to do that if you have a regime in tehran that is constituted by israel

00:17:03.900 you'll have another you know decades and decades of war because it's not yes iran is not israel the

00:17:11.980 same way israel is not the united states it will be up to the iranian people to make a country for

00:17:19.180 themselves it doesn't have to be a democracy it could be a military dictatorship but the main purpose

00:17:24.700 from our point of view is that it's not hostile to the united states or has war designs against the

00:17:30.540 united states it's not our job to fix every country on earth we have one job and that's to fix the

00:17:36.620 united states we have to make sure that we have the military to deter any enemy who would seek our

00:17:43.260 destruction or and or the military equipment such as missile defense to make sure that's a reality

00:17:50.380 that's not the piece here that was in place under proper you know design of of a military uh campaign

00:18:01.100 like this we should have been far more prepared than we are today we don't know if this is going to

00:18:06.700 work this attack on fordo which is why again this should be up to israel let israel do this and if israel

00:18:15.100 wants to change the regime in iran good luck that won't be that easy to do but i believe it could be

00:18:21.100 done it would be good for the world if it were done but it's not our job to do that and the president

00:18:27.020 i think has been commonsensical in his approach to this and i expect he will be in the future

00:18:33.340 no he's a as you know he's a and you've advised me before he's a very uh commonsensical guy and think

00:18:39.820 everything through i want to go back something you said that was quite important about regime change as you

00:18:45.020 know i'm proud to be with you and frank gaffney and some others the co-founder of the committee

00:18:50.140 on the present danger china which is now i don't know seven or eight years we've been around doing

00:18:55.660 this one of the things i think we did the best and it was miles go that helped me think this through

00:19:00.060 was to make sure we don't refer to china or the chinese people but the chinese communist party and

00:19:04.620 always do that and i think that nomenclature has done a lot in the last seven or eight years and as

00:19:09.420 you know we kind of lead i'm fully sanctioned by the chinese carers party because we are don't

00:19:15.900 believe it's a legitimate government of the chinese people and we are a hundred percent for regime

00:19:21.580 change in beijing so i'm not an anti-regime change guy however frank as you and i have talked so many

00:19:28.060 times that we've talked to so many of our chinese uh colleagues and chinese national colleagues and

00:19:33.020 expatriates and people that are anti-ccp if the united states the united states kind of the state

00:19:38.700 department put him in power in 49 the bush apparatus kind of kept him in power for tiananmen when they

00:19:43.980 had these kind of popular revolts um you can't do a top down if the united states military or even you

00:19:50.300 know if somehow the united states was to take them out of power it wouldn't work lao bai jing has to

00:19:56.300 rise up at some point in time with assistance from the west no doubt or from people that back their

00:20:01.500 cause they have to overthrow it that's why i've been so big on economic warfare in the

00:20:06.060 case of the persians particularly oil the one and a half to two and a half million barrels a day that

00:20:10.860 goes from persia to china and is a big part of the cash flow coming into to the mulas that if you

00:20:16.460 really start putting tough economic sanctions like we put economic sanctions after we got jcpoa

00:20:21.260 president trump you had the really the first big uprising in 22 of those remember you had millions of

00:20:27.020 kids in the street for like two or three weeks that's where you see an uprising i want to

00:20:31.340 go back to iraq because one of the it wasn't the jewish insider but one of maybe it was the jewish

00:20:36.060 news service one of the things i read all the time from israel kind of said oh these guys comparing

00:20:40.860 iraq to iran or it's anti-semitic it has nothing about that what we're doing is now people are talking

00:20:47.260 about the the shah's grandson and the shah's son and the peacock throne and this committee they've got

00:20:53.180 some sort of council of expatriate persians that you know people should do due diligence on this goes

00:20:59.020 back to the iraqi national congress you remember that when chalibay and these guys were presented

00:21:03.740 to the american people in the year and a half run-up part that was presented to the as a psyop

00:21:10.060 was chalibay and all these guys were going to step in and they were jeffersonian democracies and they

00:21:14.700 were going to be welcomed by the people in baghdad because people were waiting for democracy and it

00:21:19.660 turned out after the march up country which took us i don't know a couple of weeks we turned around

00:21:24.380 with hey we have to have somebody here to kind of help when the iraqi national congress and chalibay

00:21:28.940 and those guys stepped over there they they were lost to history they never had you never heard about

00:21:34.060 them again because the people there go who are you guys you guys have been hanging out in washington

00:21:38.220 living large you're not part of us isn't that the point that when you do this regime change if you

00:21:43.500 just do it from the top it's just going to be utter and total chaos as those horrible horrible horrible

00:21:49.740 years of what 2004 and five and six and seven right and eight uh were as we were trying to hold

00:21:56.860 down baghdad sir well that's the least serious part of this whole thing isn't it this idea that there are

00:22:04.060 these people in the wings who can come in and do this the what the way wars end like this is that

00:22:10.780 presumably presumably at one point some some iranian general is going to be looked to to see whether he

00:22:18.060 can control the country militarily that he could secure their weapons whatever they may be and

00:22:24.060 decides to depose the mullahs and make sure that iran could um realistically sign some sort of peace 0.71

00:22:32.060 agreement with israel or the united states or the west more broadly and then constitute some kind of

00:22:38.220 country that could ensure the stability of iran with this is not about the democracy project this is not

00:22:44.860 about you know restoring the shah to power this will be about iran fine trying to figure out whether

00:22:51.740 or not they can have a a stable country that could govern themselves and not be a threat to to those

00:23:00.860 around them because presumably if this gets to a more more uh heightened state of warfare then you know

00:23:09.420 things will escalate to the point where if there is regime change that person will have to demonstrate

00:23:14.620 he actually controls the country if not yet it will denigrate into some kind of chaos or civil war

00:23:21.500 i actually think just given the iranian regime and the in the power of the generals right now

00:23:26.700 you could find a general to do that but again you know we're not very good as americans and figuring

00:23:32.300 this stuff out it'll be the job of iran to figure out what their future looks like the other one to have the

00:23:37.820 moolahs and live that way or they'll have some general try to form a government a government somehow 1.00

00:23:44.300 that will provide peace and stability there but that's a that's a long way off and not that easy

00:23:49.580 to pull off well it wouldn't have been a long way off if president trump had not put his foot down people

00:23:55.260 should know if he had not put his foot down on wednesday bb netanyahu's government were pushing and

00:24:01.580 pushing hard for a regime change i would say regime destruction destroy it and figure out if there's

00:24:07.580 a general that picks up it steps up but the the israeli government the government israel was

00:24:13.820 pushing very hard it was an upsell create a sense of urgency then upsell you and thank god president

00:24:19.500 trump in that kind of basic common sense that he has it's so powerful was able to see through it and

00:24:24.780 you know it's said and it's been said many times he's not participating in in regime change what he's

00:24:30.620 looking at at max is the the military strike and could it work if his negotiation fails right the

00:24:37.740 next couple weeks if he thinks he's being tapped along or dismissed and today in in geneva you know

00:24:43.020 the delegates from from iran to with the europeans said it has to be a ceasefire you can't let the

00:24:47.420 israelis pound us or we're not going to talk i don't know if trump president trump's going to buy

00:24:51.740 that he's going to say hey either sit down and talk or we have the potential getting involved so i think

00:24:57.340 this thing gets more and more serious and about the generals remember napoleon was called back

00:25:03.580 from the campaign in egypt and then we returned the central committee had uh had called him back

00:25:09.500 that was overseeing the revolution as you remember brian and when he got back his famous quote is

00:25:14.940 i saw the crown of france in the gutter and i just put my sword out and picked it up he saw the

00:25:21.100 opportunity he was the general that gave him a whiff of grape shot and uh calmed the mob down and then

00:25:27.180 took over uh revolutionary france and uh built it into a military dictatorship in an empire brian

00:25:33.020 kennedy you're a good man you're a smart man and you're a wise man where do people go to get your content

00:25:37.340 sir uh thank you steve um on uh getter i'm brian t kennedy and on uh x i'm brian t kennedy one and

00:25:47.900 present danger china.org where uh you you were one of the founders of the committee we have a wealth

00:25:54.380 of knowledge that i and frank gaffney and others have put together with your help thank you tremendous

00:26:00.220 tremendous thing today on iran because it is as part it's no doubt the ccp's black hand is in back of all 1.00

00:26:06.140 this 100 they and they're in the russian kgb's looking their chops on this thing i think putin

00:26:12.620 said today they may get involved remember we talked about the guns of august of how the mobilization

00:26:18.460 timetables inexorably drew europe into a war where they said sir edward gray the foreign minister said

00:26:27.260 the lamps of europe are uh what are being shut down and they will not be lit again in our lifetime

00:26:36.140 because he could see what was going to happen on then the western front we saw what happened in

00:26:42.060 ukraine we called that did we not with you the audience we're being sucked into the kinetic part

00:26:48.620 of the third world war not here in the united states we're trying to clean up the sanctuary cities and get 1.00

00:26:53.420 out the 10 million invaders but once again in cincoms middle east short commercial break artificial

00:27:05.180 intelligence on the other side

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00:34:32.220 can get to it i want to get to one of my favorite people he's on the road he's out there he's been

00:34:37.180 out there with the big wigs in silicon valley in the bay area you've got two great cold opens let's

00:34:42.620 go ahead and play the first joe allen's with us and then joe allen will explain it all to us

00:34:46.860 gary marcus will you have always been willing to criticize sam altman not only for what he's doing

00:34:54.380 but perhaps even implying that there's ill intent i mean i think open ai is probably going to head

00:35:01.180 towards surveillance you can imagine two business models for open ai one would be if they could

00:35:06.780 actually build agi soon maybe they can make a lot of money with that real agi would be worth trillions of

00:35:12.380 dollars but the things that they've actually delivered don't work that reliably and that has

00:35:17.420 limited their commercial utility they have a lot of private data people treated as a therapist and

00:35:23.020 they now want to build apparently like a necklace or something they record you 24 7 like that's like

00:35:28.300 1984 independent i mean you can't be a libertarian and want some party to be collecting all of that data

00:35:35.740 on anything that anybody does so i'm here with the ceo of global quantum intelligence andre koenig thank

00:35:42.140 is china really keeping up with the u.s or western countries in the advancement of quantum computing

00:35:49.660 no china is 10 to 15x ahead of us on every meaningful metric if it were to go in the

00:35:57.420 catastrophic directions what are some of the specific problems that would arise from rapid and

00:36:02.860 uncontrolled breakthroughs so of course quantum computing can help with new materials new chemistry

00:36:09.340 which has a weapon application both in a defensive and offensive posture but it is really about

00:36:16.940 factorization and breaking most of our known um encryption and this is something that would

00:36:22.780 happen at a flip of a switch and its ultimate terminal you're breaking into jp morgan and citibank

00:36:29.500 you're breaking into the fed you're breaking into our telecom system you might be breaking into our

00:36:34.380 nuclear codes right wow scott schaefer's joining us from blade technologies to discuss well let's begin

00:36:40.540 with the data breach 16 billion 16 billion exposed login credentials google apple facebook just to name

00:36:47.260 all of them and 16 billion what eight billion people in the world yeah 16 billion credentials and one thing

00:36:52.860 the scariest thing of all a lot of times we get these breaches it's like it's all old stuff just repackaged

00:36:57.660 this looks to be all new stuff and fairly recent stuff so what does everybody have to do right now

00:37:02.620 that it's watching or at least this weekend change every password you have on every device you own

00:37:07.100 it's important and it has to be unique on every device you own hold it there's only like 10 bombshells

00:37:17.420 see this is a joe allen thing joe allen goes out there and they think he's some corn you know some

00:37:22.780 some cracker from backwoods tennessee right sergeant york and uh he gets up there and he slips out there

00:37:30.140 with his methodology and he gets the most explosive content i've ever heard i don't want to go to the

00:37:35.900 ccp one i gotta finish with the end one what in the hell happened and what should our audience know

00:37:41.500 about this brother so steve cyber news just broke a story actually two weeks ago but they've been updating

00:37:50.140 it uh consistently 16 billion usernames and passwords discovered in dark web databases that

00:37:58.300 were enabled that were available to anyone any bad actor that would want to get their hands on it

00:38:04.060 those included logins and passwords for facebook for google for apple even things like telegram now

00:38:11.980 these sorts of revelations are happening all the time in fact uh about two weeks ago it was revealed

00:38:18.460 that china had a massive data breach quite similar with wechat and alibaba and their big companies

00:38:25.500 over there what's significant about it aside from the scale of it if you heard what gary marcus was

00:38:32.780 saying there about open ai gathering up personal data including putting out their new wearable pendant

00:38:39.980 that it would basically monitor you 24 7 if you allowed it to to pick up your personal data and

00:38:47.420 then customize their ai to you slow down slow down slow down slow down the last time i saw a pendant

00:38:53.260 like that was like in rosemary's baby right when they made her the witch coven said hey we got some

00:38:58.460 made her wear the pendant next thing you know you know she's having satan's baby uh poor mia pharaoh 1.00

00:39:04.220 walk me back what do you mean pendant what is he talking explain to our audience because i think

00:39:07.900 many of our audience particularly the boomers are like me that a lot of this is is quite foreign what

00:39:13.420 do you mean that a has come up with a pendant that you can wear 24 7 what the hell does that mean

00:39:19.580 well believe it or not this model is actually quite common other companies have already put them out but

00:39:24.620 this one is important because it's in development right now with open ai and the idea behind it and

00:39:32.220 all of these devices it could also be a smart watch it could also be a little alexa type device it could

00:39:38.460 be interconnected with all of them the idea is that open ai wants to create a an ai interface that

00:39:47.340 knows everything about you and this isn't some you know secret that is being held behind closed doors

00:39:54.940 and people have leaked this is sam altman saying the purpose of chat gpt should be a companion

00:40:03.020 or a kind of guardian angel that knows you inside and out and would then be able to better serve you

00:40:10.700 so to speak so that's what gary marcus is pointing out there that if they don't deliver on agi they have

00:40:17.420 tons of personal data from interactions they have tons of important corporate data but oh well but hang

00:40:24.060 on hang on slow down so even forget whether they they deliver an agi or not if they're doing this and he he's

00:40:31.420 part of the stargate model right that the president announced in the roosevelt room correct stargate

00:40:35.980 this is where he and elon musk it continued their fight right he just announced i think because i

00:40:42.460 heard elon musk is in meltdown about it first off he was invited to go to the middle east conference and

00:40:48.380 elon wasn't i mean elon tagged along but he really open ai was and then they came back and they just got

00:40:54.780 a massive government contract did they not sir yes they did with the department of defense and then

00:41:01.500 in addition to that they had a contract with the u.s government from the biden administration

00:41:07.020 that basically came into effect under trump to use open ai's ai to either augment or in many cases

00:41:15.900 replace government workers so very similar to what we've been hearing about doge but open ai yeah so

00:41:22.860 so hang on for a second we just had an announcement and i forget the company but

00:41:26.620 i want the audience to know they just had an announcement somewhere in the world in fact

00:41:29.260 i think it was a government had a massive breach of crypto i think they had 70 million dollars stolen

00:41:35.340 out of a crypto one these crypto wallets gone in a flash you've had this breach now both in the china

00:41:41.180 so when you get a breach in china remember the ccp takes this very seriously 0.53

00:41:45.820 we just had a breach here of 16 bayan

00:41:48.460 passwords correct a breach of passwords um and there's only what seven billion seven and a half

00:41:55.180 maybe eight billion people in the world you're talking about this pendant and they see these

00:42:00.140 they're actually commercials now for have these agents regardless of whether he gets to agi

00:42:06.540 you're got this is a massive surveillance if they want and if they want an artificial intelligence device

00:42:12.540 worn as a pendant whatever to be your guardian angel to know everything about you

00:42:17.180 how can how can they not have the opportunity to give it to a government to give it to a bad actor

00:42:22.300 to give it to somebody's prepared to pay them if it's maybe not your friend if they know everything

00:42:27.180 about you how is that not a possibility of a surveillance state that's so far bigger than 1984

00:42:35.420 than orwell's biggest nightmare sir absolutely and the really important thing there too i mean google

00:42:43.820 people put a lot of personal information into google asking health questions relationship questions

00:42:50.220 things like this uh email obviously people have personal communications all the time if that gets

00:42:56.220 breached then they get into that but with open ai's plan it will read all of your searches it will read

00:43:03.020 all of your emails it will listen to all your conversations it will listen to all your calls it will be held in a

00:43:10.220 a secure database and then used for your benefit they say but clearly clearly uh one one way or the other

00:43:19.500 whether it is with partnership with government whether it is of their own sort of malicious intent or if the

00:43:27.580 database doesn't turn out to be as secure as it's promised which happens all the time then suddenly you

00:43:34.220 have you're basically exposed inside and out you're naked out in the digital desert with snakes nipping at

00:43:40.940 your heels why why why would anybody help me out here because i know people are doing this why would

00:43:48.220 anybody give a a non-sentient at least now uh artificial intelligence device a digital device no matter how

00:43:57.660 complex why would why would anybody share everything that they have every all their thoughts all their

00:44:05.100 health care information their financial information all their emails the text messages all their google searches

00:44:11.820 why would what what is incentive why would a rational human being right why would anybody do that sir

00:44:18.860 in my opinion it's unfounded trust coupled with the desire for convenience a lot of people basically

00:44:29.740 rely and myself included i do this all the time you rely on a digital device to communicate with loved ones you

00:44:37.340 rely on a digital device to get information that is of a very very personal nature and so this has been with us

00:44:44.700 forever steve you know this has been with us all my adult life since the the 90s they've been raking

00:44:50.780 over our data the difference though now is that that already with smartphones there's this normalization

00:44:58.300 of using the smartphone to basically digitize your life either to get information or give information about

00:45:04.860 yourself to other people and with ai you get there's this relationship being formed between human beings

00:45:13.100 and ai of various sorts chat bots even humanoid robots i've seen this uh all weekend uh at there

00:45:20.860 are all week at the world ai summit and so in this and i've seen it across the country this this process

00:45:29.020 of merging people's personal lives with the digital realm and then raking it over and using it again they always

00:45:37.180 say to better serve you blah blah blah but it is very clear from edward snowden's revelations on

00:45:44.860 forward that this is being used by governments this is being used by corporations that do not have your

00:45:51.020 best interests at heart and if the data is exposed as we see with this massive breach of overlapping

00:45:58.860 logins and passwords uh if bad actors get a hold of it then they've got you inside and out

00:46:04.140 locked joe can i get you can i commit to get you on tomorrow uh is the conference over as it finally ended

00:46:12.220 yeah the conference is over um and i'm actually i'm meeting in uh the the uh at noon uh pacific time

00:46:19.500 i'm meeting with yosha bach who is one of the uh foremost thinkers in artificial intelligence and he's a wild

00:46:26.540 one but he's uh he's probably one of the foremost thinkers on the idea that ai is potentially going to

00:46:33.580 become conscious and again all week i've heard this from many people ai is now or will be in the

00:46:42.220 future this conscious being so the relationship isn't just with a dead mechanism in their minds

00:46:47.580 the relationship is with a being that's looking back at you you know folks with everything and all

00:46:54.540 the work you've done you've changed the arc of history right you you've you've changed it with your

00:46:59.100 human agency being part of this mega movement and being part of the trump movement and everything

00:47:03.660 we talk about coming down the golden escalator in the 10 years and all the you know triumphs

00:47:08.060 tragedies victories defeat all of it and everything we're doing here it pales even this stopping wars

00:47:14.220 getting our sovereignty back getting 10 million invaders out making sure trying to fix the financial

00:47:20.540 mess this country's in uh it pales really in comparison when you look about what this this

00:47:25.660 technology because it's about to overwhelm us elon musk actually think he said he wouldn't

00:47:30.780 return to go somebody else says i'm not gonna return to government that's like picking up i think

00:47:34.060 it was the phrase joey said picking up needles on the beach when he's preparing for the tsunami

00:47:39.740 of artificial intelligence that's coming in fact um the axios guys i haven't had time to i think

00:47:45.500 there's another horrible report out about jobs this week 10 000 layoff at microsoft 20 000 at intel

00:47:52.620 those are two of the most powerful and respected american technology companies i think joe it's safe

00:47:57.740 to say that most of those are either driven by or adjacent to artificial intelligence that that's why

00:48:04.140 these there's a lot of those jobs are leaving this is beginning of the tsunami against our best

00:48:09.020 workers the tech workers so it is very disturbing and we're going to make sure we're on it i just one

00:48:14.140 thing about one of the other bombshells in that did that did the individual who is the individual

00:48:19.740 said that did he say the chinese communist party it did i hear this right he said that they're 10

00:48:25.900 to 15 times more involved in ai than we are or more advanced in ai than the united states is that what

00:48:33.580 he said uh that was andre koenig of uh global quantum intelligence and he so he's talking about quantum

00:48:42.620 computing which the the good news on that is that quantum computing right now at this present moment

00:48:48.380 really isn't that far along they can't do a whole lot with it but koenig despite his skepticism is

00:48:55.340 fairly convinced that within the next few years meaning five to ten years that it will be a very

00:49:02.460 very potent technological force especially coupled with ai and the biggest danger or one of the biggest

00:49:09.260 dangers i mean you heard him talking about material science and weapons production but he's also

00:49:15.420 pointing out the the big fear of most people who look at quantum computing if you were to have an

00:49:20.620 extremely powerful quantum computer then you could decrypt basically any system and the examples he gave

00:49:27.420 jp morgan and even the department of defense and nuclear codes and it just highlights how much not just

00:49:35.820 citizens but our governments our militaries our companies they're all putting total faith in these digital

00:49:42.220 systems meanwhile the ai companies are saying yes these these systems are maybe going to go out of

00:49:48.780 control maybe there's a 20 chance they're going to go out of control and they're putting all their

00:49:53.900 faith in these systems which are obviously obviously fragile and there's one thing i would like to

00:49:59.900 highlight too just in response to this this kind of dread of what the future could hold i heard a number of

00:50:07.100 people talking about and i spoke to a lot of people about an interest in some kind of left and right

00:50:13.500 wing uh convergence or cooperation in order to get some kind of regulation to bring these these companies

00:50:21.580 to heal i've been hearing this a lot but in person speaking to these people i'm finding a lot of

00:50:27.820 interest and a lot of tolerance for differing views if we could just bring the ai companies and the

00:50:34.060 tech companies in general to heal bring them under control of the populace wow joe where do people

00:50:41.820 get your writings your thoughts all of it uh you can find my writings at jobot.xyz and there are three

00:50:49.100 great interviews from the world summit ai conference up on my x platform at joe b-o-t x-y-z that's

00:50:58.380 ben gertzel that is gary marcus and uh pile aurora i i think the war room audience is really going to

00:51:05.580 enjoy uh all three of those thank you very much steve we will push we'll push those out those are

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Bannon's War Room - June 21, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 794： Future Shock： Massive Data Breach, OpenAI Surveillance, and the Quantum Apocalypse

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