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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:11.240 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:17.840 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:21.600 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:25.180 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:33.000 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:40.940 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:48.160 good evening wednesday 2nd of july anno domini 2025 welcome to that little corner of the show

00:01:02.440 when we do a little bit of a deep dive on those uh issues to do with the christian faith both

00:01:08.640 protestant and catholic that have daily impact on our lives and coming up on the show today we've got

00:01:14.680 some great um events that we're going to be breaking down for example the um the supreme court ruling

00:01:21.520 from a few days ago uh in texas that uh um that basically said that it was um legitimate of the

00:01:32.040 texas state assembly to to have a law saying that people needed to supply their ages when viewing porn

00:01:39.860 websites we'll be talking about that uh a little later on the show also to do in the church of

00:01:44.800 england with its search for um a new archbishop of canterbury and the general decline of the anglican

00:01:52.740 church and we'll also be talking about something that this the war room has been on right from the

00:01:58.580 beginning of pope leo's pontificate which is the fact that he was basically there to bring the cash and

00:02:04.580 we've got some developments on that that reinforce the war room's analysis but we're going to be

00:02:09.440 starting the show today um looking here at again back to the supreme court and this is a judgment

00:02:17.300 uh that says that it's legitimate for parents to withdraw their children from lgbt propaganda in

00:02:28.060 schools my regular guests uh that have been on the show since we've been starting this from about a month

00:02:33.000 or so again will be brandon showwater liz yore jenny holland and frank walker but we're going to start

00:02:39.840 today with brandon showwater from the christian post brandon good morning can you tell us a bit then

00:02:45.940 about this story from the supreme court it's a 6-3 victory right how um how should this be viewed

00:02:53.580 generally across the united states by parents who are sort of determined and interested in having a major

00:03:01.420 role in the formation of their their kids you're speaking about the texas case correct

00:03:07.600 the i'm talking about yes i'm talking about no the the montgomery county um excuse me here

00:03:16.120 yeah the montgomery county uh article right yes just want to be clear that there's we've got a couple

00:03:23.600 of good cases that have come out from the supreme court that are along these same lines

00:03:27.420 both in texas as you mentioned in your introduction there and in the montgomery county maryland case

00:03:32.640 yes it was indeed a very important ruling uh we got last week uh tail end of last week uh what

00:03:40.260 happened was i'm and i'm actually really on the border of montgomery county maryland here in dc

00:03:45.720 where a group of parents of all religions not just christians but christians were part of this

00:03:50.520 catholics and protestants as well as muslims and jews they came together to say that they objected

00:03:56.160 to indoctrination into lgbtq themes when their children were as young as three and the school

00:04:02.480 board did not allow the parents to opt out of that and in a six to three ruling and an opinion

00:04:08.620 authored by justice samuel alito they they did indeed rule in the parents favor saying that this

00:04:14.580 was a burden on their free exercise rights of religion that this was something that they could

00:04:19.780 indeed do the dissent said that basically the reverse was true that this did not impose a burden

00:04:25.980 and that the burden would not be just on educators that these themes were basically subtle that the

00:04:31.680 transgender books and these drag queens and leather all of this kind of really disgusting things that 1.00

00:04:37.220 children have no business seeing um was they those were subtle messages that didn't really affect

00:04:43.580 the beliefs of the parents and their children and so that's how they did away with that but no it's

00:04:49.220 an important victory especially for freedom of religion and for parental rights but i think broadly it's

00:04:55.800 kind of a shot across the bow to the social engineers in our public soul system that are trying to confuse

00:05:03.320 children about the basics of their bodies at a very young age particularly when at that stage of

00:05:09.880 development they are just learning how to test reality their cognition their cognitive development

00:05:15.080 um i frankly and we we saw during oral arguments during that case uh a few months ago we thought

00:05:22.000 that maybe justice kagan one of the liberal justices on the court might join the conservatives and

00:05:26.660 in that opinion as she was saying yeah i think even non-religious parents wouldn't want their kids to

00:05:31.840 see this kind of thing in school but that was just posturing and so uh i think this should be even

00:05:37.860 broader than just the rights of religious parents because many secular parents don't want this either

00:05:41.520 but it's a big win no doubt brandon let me just ask you about that because i'm seeing these judgments

00:05:47.140 come out from the court as it's currently opposed um and pretty i'd like to see a breakdown of this

00:05:54.440 because it seems to me that you have katanji brown jackson eleanor kagan and sonia sotomayor as a

00:06:01.840 three and they never basically move from they're always always together whatever the judgment is

00:06:07.680 sometimes you have some of the the republican nominees if i can use that expression going over

00:06:13.240 and and uh and joining with them but those three as a court always stay together is it fair to

00:06:19.340 suggest because of that that in fact if there is an ideological component to the supreme court it's

00:06:26.160 there in those three rather than in the other six who can cut and mix a little bit according you

00:06:32.380 know to their own views opinions and backgrounds and philosophies that's often true but even

00:06:38.220 sometimes kagan have has joined the conservatives and i will say even on these issues uh a few years

00:06:43.940 ago i believe it was in 2018 there was the famous case about the colorado christian baker who did not

00:06:50.500 wish to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding he also didn't want to bake a cake for a white supremacist 0.63

00:06:56.180 or other you know halloween cakes and so kagan actually did side with uh justice briar who

00:07:02.560 that's who katanji brown jackson replaced so that was a seven to two ruling where two of the liberal

00:07:07.720 appointees did join the conservatives broadly speaking you usually see the liberal justice hanging

00:07:13.640 together more often though than the conservative justices that's that's that's broadly true

00:07:18.780 okay i'm going to bring in frank walker now and jenny holland just to to ask uh um to make a couple 0.59

00:07:26.660 of points based on this story but before they join in let me just ask you is this is it fair to

00:07:32.340 synthesize then this 6-3 judgment as the supreme court effectively asserting um putting the parents

00:07:40.420 back in the number one position and rather than having this view that the that the left like to

00:07:46.740 promote which is to put the state in the department of education but the state specifically in as the

00:07:52.240 parents of not of not the parents of last resort but increasingly the parents of first resort would

00:07:58.080 that be a fair way of summarizing this 6-3 decision i think so and i would expect to see future cases

00:08:05.640 further strengthening parental rights uh this was i think in a very important test case to see what the

00:08:11.420 supreme court would do and it's good because again i think parental rights it's it's great that the

00:08:16.840 rights of religious parents are protected but i think more broadly all parental rights whether

00:08:21.180 you're religious or not should be safeguarded um so is it a is it a blow against statism the state

00:08:27.020 controlling your children i think so and uh i would anticipate that this current court will further

00:08:33.880 enshrine parental rights i would and would anticipate that for future cases in the coming years

00:08:38.480 brandon sherwater from the christian post thanks very much hold on frank walker let's come to you

00:08:44.560 now give me your thoughts and analysis if you wouldn't mind uh on this uh 6-3 judgment well i agree

00:08:52.660 i i i hope that they can do more this is you know this is a this is what they did they used to do this

00:08:58.580 years ago it just was sex ed they would give you the option to opt out of it but it's kind of an

00:09:03.520 onerous process um they don't always cooperate in the schools and um a lot of parents don't want to

00:09:10.260 make their child feel humiliated or singled out um those are you know powerful things that that keep

00:09:17.060 people from taking advantage of this and in the in the uh um today there's just a survey this week

00:09:22.760 60 percent of parents don't want any prayer in the school they don't want teachers leading prayer so

00:09:28.420 these kinds of strong-arm tactics which is what this whole process is um they have an effect over

00:09:35.000 time but i think with the catholics this this is meaningful because in the catholic church there's

00:09:41.060 a lot of push among the bishops to have um fully funded catholic programs there's just a uh the courts

00:09:47.540 just shut down a um a trade school that was fully funded in west virginia and up in the up in north

00:09:54.100 dakota i think it was there was another one was a fully funded catholic charter school both those have

00:09:57.980 been shut down but as soon as that happens where we get all that money in the catholic church schools

00:10:03.160 these kinds of things are going to happen a lot more because in countries like canada and in ireland

00:10:08.660 where they have fully funded catholic schools these become issues for them too sure i think i noticed a

00:10:15.880 reference in the judgment to this being free education and of course just to be without wanting

00:10:21.680 to be too pedantic about this it's not free education it's paid for by parents via their taxation

00:10:27.680 um and that i think is another fun if there's one aspect here that the supreme court has has

00:10:33.720 confirmed which is the relationship between the parent and the child tacitly i think there's also

00:10:38.700 the issue here of of the fact that uh that the that the parents have a right not only as parents but

00:10:45.640 also as the fact the fact of that they're paying for their children's um welfare and education

00:10:51.800 jenny holland i know you've got a quick point that you want to make on this story

00:10:55.120 yeah um i picked up on the same thing that brandon mentioned um which was their the the dissenting

00:11:03.340 liberal justices reference to subtle themes and that the um parents did not were being granted an

00:11:11.420 invented constitutional right to protect them from said subtle themes and that really struck me because

00:11:19.240 you have to be um willfully blind to think that the kind of material that the parents were raising

00:11:26.680 objections to um is in any way subtle and if it's anything like the many books i have seen

00:11:33.360 uh designed for school-aged children they are anything but subtle they are borderline pornographic

00:11:41.640 or overtly pornographic just with sort of like a weird cutesy um twist and they're completely

00:11:49.600 unacceptable and i am a secular parent and i absolutely would die on the hill of not letting

00:11:55.680 my school-aged child be subjected to this under the guise of learning we don't need to learn such

00:12:02.940 things as children there is absolutely no reason for it liberals seem trapped um in this in this

00:12:10.020 paradigm where they still think it's the 1950s or maybe the 1980s and there's a bunch of sort of um

00:12:17.900 knuckle-dragging um fundamentalists running around trying to protect their children from the existence

00:12:25.860 like knowing of that they're the of the existence of gay people but what we're talking about is graphic

00:12:32.080 and i mean like pictures of sex acts sometimes between children themselves this is not subtle

00:12:40.000 this is about as subtle as a sledgehammer

00:12:43.280 the the aspect on pornography here is i think a tie into the thing that we're going to go and discuss

00:12:51.800 now which is the other supreme court judgment over the over the last few days jenny hold on we'll be

00:12:57.200 coming back to you later on in the show first of all i just want to do a quick mention for birch gold

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00:13:46.440 okay let's move on now um liz you're you've got the analysis of this other scotus i think it's

00:13:57.740 also six three judgment from from a couple of days ago which says that texas the state of texas can

00:14:04.460 require porn websites to verify users ages tell us a bit about this will you sure and this is another

00:14:12.960 victory for parents and children um the supreme court decision involves a 2023 texas law which

00:14:20.060 required adult websites to verify ages of the users to ensure that they were over the age of 18 in the

00:14:29.260 name of the case is free speech coalition versus ken paxton texas law required for example porn hub which

00:14:36.760 is one of the the largest adult uh pornography site i might add of hunter biden fame and other adult

00:14:44.980 websites to verify user age and it found that the supreme court found that that requirement is

00:14:53.220 constitutional um the verification of the user um is ensured especially with websites that have

00:15:02.880 more than one third of their content is considered harmful to minors now a group of adult websites um

00:15:11.540 filed a lawsuit saying that this is a violation of free speech and privacy and um all interestingly

00:15:19.800 the supreme court decision was again a six three majority of the court cited with the texas law finding

00:15:26.460 that the age requirement verification is within the state's authority to prevent children from accessing

00:15:34.640 sexually explicit content judge thomas wrote um the majority decision um the same three justices uh

00:15:44.680 demurred um and this is you know more than a dozen states have filed or have passed similar laws in fact

00:15:53.560 the eu with their 27 countries have passed the similar age verification law um ken paxton the ag

00:16:03.340 of texas said it was a major victory for children and parents and the ability to protect minors from

00:16:10.720 the damaging effects of pornography now people i'm sure know but if they don't they need to be told

00:16:17.600 that pornography on the internet is not your grandfather's uh playboy magazine it is nowadays it is violent

00:16:27.680 it is exploitive to the worst possible extremes it is um absolutely perverse and to have an age

00:16:38.760 verification is absolutely essential for children you know a child can't go to a brick and mortar store

00:16:46.720 and buy pornography so why should they be able to easily access it um on a you know internet website

00:16:55.280 in the digital space um but mainstream online pornography is a very very powerful um billion dollar

00:17:05.200 industry um and research has shown that one in a 12 percent of the video titles in these mainstream

00:17:13.840 pornography sites such as porn hub and i'm not going to mention the others describe activities which

00:17:20.520 constitute sexual violence and children end up on these sites sometimes tripping onto these sites

00:17:28.760 being socialized in sexual violence um but some but interestingly porn hub as a result of this law

00:17:36.840 has suspended services in texas which i think is frankly um a good step and interestingly since 2020

00:17:46.800 um 300 victims have sued porn hub in 25 lawsuits um saying that they're they're videos of rape and

00:17:56.680 trafficking on these websites that's what people need to realize how dangerous these sites are especially for

00:18:04.760 children liz i know um few people in america have done more to protect the integrity uh of of kids and

00:18:14.800 their and their childhood than you um and i'm glad that that we had you on the show today to to break this

00:18:20.940 result down um but let me ask you something this because this is one of those occasions when i was

00:18:26.400 reading the dissent and i actually found myself um not convinced but aware that that that i think there

00:18:34.860 was an argument here that isn't going to go away and i wouldn't be surprised if the supreme court doesn't

00:18:40.080 revisit this at a future stage from the privacy perspective this is what justice uh kagan had to say

00:18:46.320 that that the modality of of um of having to prove your age to supply your your age turns over and i quote

00:18:54.400 turns over information about yourself and your viewing habits respecting speech many find repulsive

00:19:02.520 uh to a website operator and then to who knows the operator might and this is the point right the

00:19:08.860 operator might sell the information might be hacked or that information might even be subpoenaed

00:19:14.280 uh so obviously i mean i don't have any real in principle issue with the requirement at least to um to

00:19:22.920 verify your age to to view these websites but there is this other issue here uh which i said i don't

00:19:29.520 think it's going to go away to do with the privacy and where that data goes do you have any um as

00:19:34.980 someone who is a lifelong child advocate for children do you have any response to these privacy issues

00:19:42.800 well you know many of these websites require your um credit card um to access this information so um

00:19:52.360 they don't seem to have problems with the privacy when they submit their credit card and you know this

00:19:58.840 is always a balancing act and what i love to what i'm really happy to see is that the pendulum is going

00:20:06.580 back to protecting children as we now are knee deep into the internet world and so it's always going

00:20:14.740 to be a balancing act between freedom of speech and privacy but what we're now seeing and i would

00:20:21.500 encourage people go to my website because i've listed a lot of research that's been done about the

00:20:27.400 impact of pornography on children and on society and we need to be ever vigilant to protect our most

00:20:37.320 vulnerable you know male brains don't stop developing until they're 25 so you're taking a developing brain

00:20:45.480 and submitting it to these violent images you know they've looked at cat scans when people are looking

00:20:53.220 at um pornography and the part of the brain that lights up is the same part of the brain that lights

00:21:00.960 up when people are on cocaine and on drugs this is a powerful powerful tool and we imposed it

00:21:09.680 immediately in the internet without any serious consideration of the consequences on not only adults but on

00:21:17.540 children and so this is i think long overdue

00:21:21.680 liz standby let's just cut back now to jenny um because i know you've got a reaction to this 0.82

00:21:29.300 jenny holland yep um oh hi yeah uh i well i'm relieved obviously again that the um the ruling went the way

00:21:42.300 it did um to me what was so interesting again was in the dissent um the liberal justices wrote that

00:21:49.740 this was impeding the they acknowledged the importance of or that the state had an interest

00:21:56.160 in safeguarding children but i think they worded it as um impeded the rights of adults to access this

00:22:04.460 uh speech um i'm just so relieved that the rights of children are being put ahead of

00:22:12.300 the rights of adults especially uh men to be uh to be titillated uh 24 7 um because that's

00:22:21.960 essentially what this comes down to um we're not talking about political ideas we're not talking

00:22:27.700 about um ideas of any kind uh and that in fact brings me to my second point which is i don't quite

00:22:33.960 understand how this is framed as a free speech issue because porn to me personally is not speech

00:22:41.180 there is no speaking literally it's all action and um the the idea that you should have a protected

00:22:48.860 right to watch uh multiple men violating a woman or um incest active incest occurring how on earth is

00:22:58.500 that protected speech i've never understood that um jenny i'm going to ask you this question and i'm

00:23:05.320 also ask uh brandon show water the same question on the do you see that there are competing interests

00:23:12.060 not on the free speech issue so much but on the issue between uh the the um the privacy here of data

00:23:20.920 of user data and where that might finish is that a consideration here in your general support for the

00:23:26.920 requirement of age verification not really not not to me personally i mean i'm sure at least legally i

00:23:35.520 understand that you can make a case for it but i find it highly ironic that they are pretending to be

00:23:42.040 worried about privacy when you are uh engaging in an activity which is voyeuristically um watching

00:23:51.200 people do the most so you know apparently private or what are supposed to be the most private things of

00:23:56.560 all i mean i think it's such a morally vacuous argument you are you are in the filthy dirty 0.90

00:24:02.780 dark corners of the internet so yeah if you're worried about your privacy maybe that should be

00:24:07.520 a tell that you shouldn't be there at all all right okay brandon show water um give me if you wouldn't

00:24:15.900 mind your quick take on this scotus decision tell me do you have any privacy concerns about this

00:24:22.300 or am i the only one no i hate porn with a passionate fury so i was glad to see the supreme court take such

00:24:29.260 a strong stand in the interest of safeguarding children because the pornography industry as jenny

00:24:34.680 was just saying does indeed try to frame their cause as a free speech issue and uh americans who are very

00:24:41.620 live and let live type of people are often persuaded by that pornography is the business of sexual

00:24:47.280 exploitation that is not free speech and so it's a crucial win and i was i i mean it really does

00:24:53.320 say something i think about the left-wing mind that you're actually going to prioritize the rights of

00:24:59.000 adults to view smut over the protection of children i mean pandering obscenity to minors is a crime

00:25:06.180 and so why on earth is it even controversial for a state to put a law in place to say let's make it hard

00:25:13.140 for a child to see this because uh if you know a prowler in the bushes who tries to show a dirty

00:25:20.120 magazine to children would be arrested on the spot is it any different if you know an online

00:25:24.980 pornographer is trying to you know get at children with a screen i don't think there's much of a

00:25:31.220 difference there and so as you know the laws need to update as technology progresses and so this seems

00:25:36.560 like an eminently reasonable thing and the fact that it took a conservative leaning supreme court

00:25:41.640 to affirm this given you know previous you know precedent which was in favor of the porn industry

00:25:47.360 uh this is a very welcome development and let's hope uh that this is the first of many i think for

00:25:53.780 uh for the supreme court to rule against the pornography industry then they call themselves the free speech 0.59

00:25:59.340 coalition that's very strategic uh misnomer there that's what they call themselves it just shows the

00:26:05.620 extent of their efforts to hoodwink the public and to gaslight them into thinking that

00:26:09.640 sexual exploitation of the worst kind is actually a first amendment protected right

00:26:14.620 look as um as a one-time political consultant i i know we've got a break coming up in just

00:26:21.540 30 seconds i'll close with this observation as a former political consultant if you are of the

00:26:27.600 opinion and everyone all the commentators on the show today seem to be of this opinion that this is

00:26:32.220 this is an excellent judgment if you want to ensure that this judgment remains in place and isn't

00:26:38.180 overturned at some point in the future it is absolutely imperative on you warring posse america

00:26:44.400 more widely that you do everything that you can so that there will not be any data leak because that's

00:26:50.120 the thing that will put the judgment like this in jeopardy which is the swing of popular public opinion

00:26:55.000 turning against okay back in three minutes after this short break

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00:30:41.140 war room here's your host stephen k bannon

00:30:45.400 welcome back um often as we hit these developments and try and break them down we'll go to

00:30:57.600 a key reference in a in a newspaper or magazine to help analyze this but occasionally it's the article

00:31:06.480 itself in the magazine that i think is the story and that's the case with this analysis on the situation

00:31:13.820 the church of england that jenny holland's going to break down for us today in the economist

00:31:17.820 of all i think it calls itself a newspaper of all newspapers the economist talking about the the

00:31:25.480 situation here that there was both recently for the first time i think since i don't know

00:31:31.400 it cites it 1691 both the sea of rome and the sea of canterbury were vacant jenny tell me a bit

00:31:38.640 about this article and uh what impressed you about its analysis to do with the general condition of

00:31:46.580 the church of england in england today well i'm afraid it's more bad news from um your home country

00:31:54.200 ben uh as regards the church of england it is in uh something of a precipitous decline which won't

00:32:01.300 necessarily be a surprise to anyone who watches the war room regularly um and i know that the anglicans

00:32:07.060 in the states have a similar spiritual crisis but uh this very very illustrative article detailed

00:32:15.700 the staggering loss of numbers of um congregants of the church of england is undergoing um the most

00:32:23.200 uh striking statistic was that in 2011 60 percent of britons um identified themselves as christians

00:32:31.780 um and in 2021 less than half of britons identified as such and a little over one percent of um church

00:32:42.000 of england members go to church every week so um as a result of this they're selling off churches um

00:32:49.800 something like 20 uh churches close every year um and it's a really dire situation in terms of the

00:32:56.960 national faith of uh the united kingdom um this is also going to get worse likely with uh the ascension

00:33:05.600 of prince william when he when he um takes his father's place whenever that may be he's described

00:33:11.960 in this article very interestingly as not instinctively comfortable uh and my favorite phrase of all

00:33:19.360 with a quote-unquote faith environment and again here we go back to this um weird bureaucratic

00:33:26.540 detached uh language that seems to be um very much in vogue in church of england they don't seem to be

00:33:34.940 able to say things directly that everything sounds like an hr memo um so it's very worrying especially

00:33:42.640 given the the very um politically conflicted time that uh we're going through right now here where we

00:33:49.520 have a labor government that's very unpopular um a very restive um native population um growing um anger

00:33:59.660 if not fury and rage over uh double standards in uh policing and in criminal prosecutions um and you know

00:34:10.020 is it any wonder then if they're going to be so um wishy-washy and timid and so detached from any kind

00:34:19.340 of spiritual um enthusiasm uh is it any wonder that they're losing people hand over fist

00:34:26.200 yeah and uh the interesting thing about this article in the economist of all places is that this really

00:34:33.960 will affect the the culture uh of the uk of england and its sense of itself right you have an observation

00:34:41.820 don't don't you jenny that this is and i always say you are a unique contributor on these things

00:34:47.940 discussing religious and christian affairs as someone who is um atheist though open brackets you do pray the

00:34:56.860 rosary every day um tell you and this is your insight that um from that perspective as well that for

00:35:03.880 for for for not just the church of england but all ecclesial communions this is what will happen

00:35:09.860 if you replace the the priority of god in the life of your um of your church community with other

00:35:17.440 distractions and considerations right yes absolutely the people who are turning toward christianity at

00:35:23.920 the moment and i am definitely one of them but there's a lot more like me people who are from liberal

00:35:28.580 progressive even left-wing backgrounds and secular backgrounds we uh don't want to go to church or

00:35:36.760 join uh a religious community uh again to be told um you know oh tut tut and oh be careful now and

00:35:45.160 no we want we we can find that at work we can be lectured to by the hr ladies when we go into the office 1.00

00:35:53.000 we don't need that when we're seeking spiritual refuge and spiritual strength um and it's you know

00:35:59.960 it is it's very interesting that the economist um is even saying that the demise of the church of

00:36:06.160 england is not a matter just for the faithful i mean and if the economist is saying that and i've

00:36:11.660 heard it called the econo marxist it's not it is not at all uh a maga publication i mean we're talking

00:36:17.640 about the uh broadsheet for or the magazine for the globalists um and even they're acknowledging

00:36:23.400 that this is going to have a profound effect on um the the very nation i mean this is the the

00:36:30.000 religion of the nation yeah um it i think there were 26 24 26 bishops 26 that have an 26 that

00:36:41.260 automatically have a seat in the legislature in the house of lords yeah automatically and they're right

00:36:46.180 it's an it's an established church it's exactly what america doesn't have on this

00:36:50.240 it's an established exactly and they have 5 000 schools as well okay so so you know i i you know

00:36:58.240 that could that could be such a positive force but knowing the sort of what that they push out in

00:37:03.760 their homilies i can only hang my head and wonder how that's further adding to the deterioration of

00:37:09.200 the culture of of the uk let's go to liz you're now um liz give me your um if you wouldn't mind just

00:37:15.160 give me a minute or two on your response to the uh the economist's analysis here well i think the

00:37:23.060 catholic church should take note of the church of england um because what is happening there is the

00:37:28.000 same thing that is rolling out in the catholic church i mean climate change from the pulpit

00:37:34.780 lgbt agenda from the pulpit cover-up of clergy abuse justin welby had to step down the head of the

00:37:43.540 church of england because he had covered up um a uh clergy abuse case uh but you know it it really

00:37:50.540 reminds me of gk chesterton who i love who said you know do not be so open-minded that your brains fall

00:37:57.100 out well it sure seems like both in the catholic church and the church of england were being so

00:38:02.620 open-minded so politically correct that the brains of the church are falling right out on the on the altar

00:38:08.880 and additionally he also said tolerance is the virtue of people who do not believe in anything

00:38:17.020 and we see this politicization of the churches and people walking away from the politicization

00:38:25.200 of the churches because they want truth they want transcendence and they want the gospel and and moral

00:38:33.200 life um and so it's a it's a really parallel situation that the catholic church would be well

00:38:39.720 advised to pay attention wise words let's quickly go to frank walker frank you've got a tough job now

00:38:47.840 you've got a up the ante on gk chesterton are you are you able to rise to that particular challenge

00:38:55.240 no but i can tell you i can tell you that it's it's so striking that government money always seems

00:39:05.180 to destroy churches a big endowment and only one percent in the actual uh going to church nobody

00:39:13.000 knows all and it's just not with them it's with the catholics it's all kind of just bubbled up it's 0.95

00:39:18.780 propped up by government money i think that just like the anglicans and the catholics in the establishment

00:39:24.240 have a lot in common the the uh the solution is for catholics traditional catholics and to target 0.51

00:39:31.100 all sorts of other people like anglicans because together like you know england has a catholic

00:39:36.460 heritage that goes back a lot further than the anglican church they need to recover their actual

00:39:40.780 traditional catholic heritage i think that can grow the problem is isn't it frank the problem is once

00:39:48.660 you set out on the road of trying to of hitching your future to modernism and modernity everyone

00:39:56.100 who believes will leave and all you're going to be left with are the people who are going to be scared

00:40:01.360 by religiosity so what i mean today is once you start down that track it's very isn't it very difficult

00:40:07.280 to pull back yes and and all of these churches that they're selling off cheap i'm wondering who's

00:40:13.200 buying that i know that chesterton and hilaire bloc said islam is going to take over with this weak 0.80

00:40:18.940 christianity in europe and that was a hundred years ago um it's just that the the the renewal needs to

00:40:27.080 happen faster than the islamization especially in the uk okay frank stay there because we're going to 1.00

00:40:35.320 come to you now to to have all of the worst prejudices that the war room has held over the last

00:40:42.100 five or six weeks to do with the the leo pontificate confirmed um but first let's just quickly go back to

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00:41:36.560 nine eight today that's bannon to nine eight nine eight nine eight today okay frank let's come to you now

00:41:45.660 with this um this analysis uh from politico which says that pope leo looks to mega mega donors

00:41:55.240 to shore up church finances tell me before you break this down isn't this exactly what the war room

00:42:01.580 had been warning about uh what what politico has said here isn't this exactly what we have said on

00:42:07.200 this show from day one well i thought that there's money problems in the church yeah you have said that

00:42:14.660 and um they're they're uh they're really hoping that leo can recover this money in fact even going back

00:42:21.040 to the time of um when he was elected a couple months ago they had an america week and and they

00:42:26.340 referenced in this article where they had pledges of a billion dollars if they get the right pope but

00:42:31.780 this article here has a lot of telling quotes but i think you know as with a lot of political stuff

00:42:36.780 there's a lot of spin that's happening here but they they're saying that leo is touching all the

00:42:43.560 right points is are going to make conserve align with conservative donors but i don't necessarily agree

00:42:48.740 that that he's aligned with conservative donors the press is making it seem like he's aligning

00:42:54.820 with conservative donors and they say that um francis has cleaned up the vatican bank and and that leo is

00:43:00.780 helping it but leo is just i think reinforcing the same corruption that's been there before um it's all

00:43:07.540 about raising money and this weekend there was a big thing about how he's asking actually asking

00:43:12.480 them to give money so they can have unity with him um but he's not doing anything to change the

00:43:19.620 real problem which is that because there's a lot of donors out there that support the church that are

00:43:25.100 not conservative in fact i don't even know if there's who are the big conservative donors out

00:43:29.660 there and they said well they got leo because they had um conservative prelates were backing him up

00:43:35.360 and saying but who are these conservative you know where is the power they said in this article

00:43:41.080 that cardinal burke even had a meeting with leo two meetings with leo but um you know it's it's all

00:43:47.580 anonymous he's not even allowed he's not even commenting on that that story so i think that

00:43:52.880 there's a lot of spin in this article i'm not quite sure yeah i've actually heard pushback against some

00:43:58.800 of those things because a lot of some of those things were being pushed out by the trad inc brigade

00:44:03.920 precisely because they wanted to hit the fundraisers um and i said from certain quarters i've i've had that

00:44:09.720 confirmed that some of these things simply didn't didn't occur let me just before we go to to brandon

00:44:15.660 because i want i want to hear what what his take uh as a protestant is to to what's going on because

00:44:21.300 no because we catholics comment on the protestant communion i want to i want to get his how this

00:44:26.400 how this appears to him but before i do that let me just read this this line here from this article

00:44:31.180 and this is why i say i think it's it confirms the war room's coverage really from the first day of

00:44:36.280 this pontificate insiders say that leo was elected in part because as an american he ex ex ex exuded an

00:44:45.880 anglo-saxon financial seriousness he was also seen as well positioned to bring back donations that have

00:44:53.460 dried up thanks to persistent scandal and the hemorrhaging of support from powerful american catholic

00:45:00.280 conservatives you know like the like the papal foundation this is exactly what we said literally

00:45:04.900 word for word since um since the beginning brandon tell me what what is the view from um from within

00:45:13.040 protestant dumb on the protestant dumb um if i might coin that term on this are you scandalized or do you

00:45:19.800 see very much the same thing going on in evangelical churches

00:45:23.420 i live with three catholics i have a graduate um a graduate degree from the catholic university of america

00:45:32.980 and so i do love the catholics even though i am a protestant um i am i am kind of scandalized by it

00:45:38.980 i just really think that if you really want to see people come to faith in jesus what must be done

00:45:45.520 at the this just sounds so simple but it's so true is that the gospel must be must be proclaimed

00:45:51.440 faithfully in all of its truth if you're going to take money from people that will water it down or

00:45:57.100 compromise it you can expect to see what's happened in the church of england uh these churches are

00:46:02.220 lifeless because they do not proclaim repentance from sin if they bow to the spirit of the age

00:46:07.500 you're going to have a lifeless soul-sucking dead as a doornail church and i think that applies across

00:46:13.420 the board um with respect to the catholics and the funding and what pope leo is trying to do

00:46:19.100 and the politics around that i will admit that it's it's it's very strange for me to even be invited

00:46:27.100 to comment on it except to say that i think that um i i happen to think that god is doing a big work

00:46:34.000 of cleansing across the board and whenever there's funny money or or compromise i think that we're in

00:46:40.000 a time now where i believe we will see the lord cleanse the rot from his entire church uh catholic and 1.00

00:46:47.120 protestant alike that's my take on it brandon thanks thanks so much liz closing words on this

00:46:53.760 uh to you yeah i thought this was such a brazen money pitch i mean i felt like we were back in the

00:47:01.460 days of the medici popes where you know which one can fill the coffers that one will ascend the chair

00:47:08.400 of saint peter it's really unseemly and unholy are we really at the point of where the college of

00:47:14.680 cardinals are admittedly going to pander to the rich americans um by conjoling them that we gave

00:47:20.960 you your first american pope so pony up it's as as brandon said we want a good holy man who will

00:47:29.440 preach the faith and protect tradition and dogma and lead the church and purify the church after

00:47:38.280 really a hundred years of the corruption of modernists so they you know it was just shocking

00:47:45.400 for me to see this and to think that we are so um superficial um to read this article and think oh

00:47:52.680 yeah so i'll open my wallet because you know he's a he's an american wearing a white sock chicago white

00:47:58.740 socks hat um it's time to really grow up and get serious um but perhaps they really do believe it and

00:48:05.980 perhaps the money is really drying up um yeah i think it dovetails nicely shame we can't break it

00:48:14.740 down today on pope leo's exegesis on the multiplication of the loaves liz where do people

00:48:20.660 go to to keep up with your unique uh and that essential analysis on social media i'm everywhere

00:48:28.300 under elizabeth you're on all social media platforms also um on my website yourchildren.com

00:48:34.360 i've also put a lot of information for parents about the dangers of pornography a lot of the data

00:48:39.860 and statistics so um feel free to visit there and educate yourself on this issue

00:48:45.760 lizio thanks very much for coming on the show catch up with you next wednesday evening god willing

00:48:51.400 brandon showwater christian post where do people go to keep up with your writing and with your analysis

00:48:57.280 brandon uh you can go to follow me on exit at brandon m show all of our print reporting is at

00:49:04.880 christian post.com and stay tuned for season five of our podcast series our documentary podcast called

00:49:10.680 generation indoctrination inside the transgender battle and that will be on generation indoctrination.com

00:49:17.240 that's our landing page and it's also on all major podcast platforms wherever you get your podcasts

00:49:21.680 are you on getter i'm not on getter we're gonna have to do something about that um brandon thanks

00:49:31.360 for coming on the show hope to catch up again with you soon and i can't compliment the the christian

00:49:36.000 post uh highly enough catch up again with you soon god bless for now thank you thank you uh jenny

00:49:42.080 holland where do people go to catch up with you on social media i know you have your sub stack

00:49:47.240 yep uh my sub stack goes out every week and it's jenny e holland dot sub stack dot com

00:49:54.300 and you can also find me on twitter at semper femina uh 21 but i send an essay out uh every week

00:50:03.200 saving culture from itself and you are on getter now aren't you i am on getter uh i think it's jenny

00:50:11.440 e holland but i haven't checked in a while all right okay jenny thanks for coming on the show catch up

00:50:16.740 with you thanks next wednesday god willing and frank walker the catholic church's answer to matt

00:50:23.480 drudge um i'll ask you kindly as i always do if you wouldn't mind posting the links for for tonight's

00:50:29.960 show on your website canon 212 where people can go to download them canon 2212 212 is the i go to

00:50:38.740 every day several times a day to to find out what the breaking news is in the catholic church can't

00:50:44.140 compliment that that that your uh your website high enough frank just give the readings if you

00:50:49.000 wouldn't mind of your social media please and into 12.com and on twitter it's all spelled out on x

00:50:55.480 and then the the video update is on rumble and glory tv and at the stumbling block

00:51:00.100 and that's your blog right stumblingblock.com yeah is it i'll just quickly point out you do need folks

00:51:08.680 you do need to type canon 212 type it all out in words because poor frank walker great hero that he

00:51:16.200 is in addition to fighting non-stop for the catholic faith he has to fight against the google

00:51:21.340 algorithmic suppression okay that's all we have time for today on the show my thanks to our guests

00:51:28.220 in this order brandon showalter liz yore jenny holland and frank walker i'm your host today on

00:51:35.020 steve bannon's warring my thanks to cameron wallace our producer and the great team in denver ben harnwell

00:51:41.380 signing out

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Bannon's War Room - July 02, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 802： POLITICO Confirms WarRoom Analysis — Election Of “Lefty Leo” Pope All About US Cash

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