WarRoom Battleground EP 802： POLITICO Confirms WarRoom Analysis — Election Of “Lefty Leo” Pope All About US Cash
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In this episode, we discuss the Supreme Court's recent ruling allowing parents to opt out of anti-gay propaganda in public schools in Texas, the Church of England's search for a new archbishop of Canterbury, and the decline of the Anglican Church.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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good evening wednesday 2nd of july anno domini 2025 welcome to that little corner of the show
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when we do a little bit of a deep dive on those uh issues to do with the christian faith both
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protestant and catholic that have daily impact on our lives and coming up on the show today we've got
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some great um events that we're going to be breaking down for example the um the supreme court ruling
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from a few days ago uh in texas that uh um that basically said that it was um legitimate of the
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texas state assembly to to have a law saying that people needed to supply their ages when viewing porn
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websites we'll be talking about that uh a little later on the show also to do in the church of
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england with its search for um a new archbishop of canterbury and the general decline of the anglican
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church and we'll also be talking about something that this the war room has been on right from the
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beginning of pope leo's pontificate which is the fact that he was basically there to bring the cash and
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we've got some developments on that that reinforce the war room's analysis but we're going to be
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starting the show today um looking here at again back to the supreme court and this is a judgment
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uh that says that it's legitimate for parents to withdraw their children from lgbt propaganda in
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schools my regular guests uh that have been on the show since we've been starting this from about a month
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or so again will be brandon showwater liz yore jenny holland and frank walker but we're going to start
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today with brandon showwater from the christian post brandon good morning can you tell us a bit then
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about this story from the supreme court it's a 6-3 victory right how um how should this be viewed
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generally across the united states by parents who are sort of determined and interested in having a major
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role in the formation of their their kids you're speaking about the texas case correct
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the i'm talking about yes i'm talking about no the the montgomery county um excuse me here
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yeah the montgomery county uh article right yes just want to be clear that there's we've got a couple
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of good cases that have come out from the supreme court that are along these same lines
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both in texas as you mentioned in your introduction there and in the montgomery county maryland case
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yes it was indeed a very important ruling uh we got last week uh tail end of last week uh what
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happened was i'm and i'm actually really on the border of montgomery county maryland here in dc
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where a group of parents of all religions not just christians but christians were part of this
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catholics and protestants as well as muslims and jews they came together to say that they objected
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to indoctrination into lgbtq themes when their children were as young as three and the school
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board did not allow the parents to opt out of that and in a six to three ruling and an opinion
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authored by justice samuel alito they they did indeed rule in the parents favor saying that this
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was a burden on their free exercise rights of religion that this was something that they could
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indeed do the dissent said that basically the reverse was true that this did not impose a burden
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and that the burden would not be just on educators that these themes were basically subtle that the
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transgender books and these drag queens and leather all of this kind of really disgusting things that
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children have no business seeing um was they those were subtle messages that didn't really affect
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the beliefs of the parents and their children and so that's how they did away with that but no it's
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an important victory especially for freedom of religion and for parental rights but i think broadly it's
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kind of a shot across the bow to the social engineers in our public soul system that are trying to confuse
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children about the basics of their bodies at a very young age particularly when at that stage of
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development they are just learning how to test reality their cognition their cognitive development
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um i frankly and we we saw during oral arguments during that case uh a few months ago we thought
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that maybe justice kagan one of the liberal justices on the court might join the conservatives and
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in that opinion as she was saying yeah i think even non-religious parents wouldn't want their kids to
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see this kind of thing in school but that was just posturing and so uh i think this should be even
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broader than just the rights of religious parents because many secular parents don't want this either
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but it's a big win no doubt brandon let me just ask you about that because i'm seeing these judgments
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come out from the court as it's currently opposed um and pretty i'd like to see a breakdown of this
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because it seems to me that you have katanji brown jackson eleanor kagan and sonia sotomayor as a
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three and they never basically move from they're always always together whatever the judgment is
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sometimes you have some of the the republican nominees if i can use that expression going over
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and and uh and joining with them but those three as a court always stay together is it fair to
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suggest because of that that in fact if there is an ideological component to the supreme court it's
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there in those three rather than in the other six who can cut and mix a little bit according you
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know to their own views opinions and backgrounds and philosophies that's often true but even
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sometimes kagan have has joined the conservatives and i will say even on these issues uh a few years
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ago i believe it was in 2018 there was the famous case about the colorado christian baker who did not
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wish to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding he also didn't want to bake a cake for a white supremacist
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or other you know halloween cakes and so kagan actually did side with uh justice briar who
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that's who katanji brown jackson replaced so that was a seven to two ruling where two of the liberal
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appointees did join the conservatives broadly speaking you usually see the liberal justice hanging
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together more often though than the conservative justices that's that's that's broadly true
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okay i'm going to bring in frank walker now and jenny holland just to to ask uh um to make a couple
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of points based on this story but before they join in let me just ask you is this is it fair to
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synthesize then this 6-3 judgment as the supreme court effectively asserting um putting the parents
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back in the number one position and rather than having this view that the that the left like to
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promote which is to put the state in the department of education but the state specifically in as the
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parents of not of not the parents of last resort but increasingly the parents of first resort would
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that be a fair way of summarizing this 6-3 decision i think so and i would expect to see future cases
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further strengthening parental rights uh this was i think in a very important test case to see what the
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supreme court would do and it's good because again i think parental rights it's it's great that the
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rights of religious parents are protected but i think more broadly all parental rights whether
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you're religious or not should be safeguarded um so is it a is it a blow against statism the state
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controlling your children i think so and uh i would anticipate that this current court will further
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enshrine parental rights i would and would anticipate that for future cases in the coming years
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brandon sherwater from the christian post thanks very much hold on frank walker let's come to you
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now give me your thoughts and analysis if you wouldn't mind uh on this uh 6-3 judgment well i agree
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i i i hope that they can do more this is you know this is a this is what they did they used to do this
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years ago it just was sex ed they would give you the option to opt out of it but it's kind of an
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onerous process um they don't always cooperate in the schools and um a lot of parents don't want to
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make their child feel humiliated or singled out um those are you know powerful things that that keep
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people from taking advantage of this and in the in the uh um today there's just a survey this week
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60 percent of parents don't want any prayer in the school they don't want teachers leading prayer so
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these kinds of strong-arm tactics which is what this whole process is um they have an effect over
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time but i think with the catholics this this is meaningful because in the catholic church there's
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a lot of push among the bishops to have um fully funded catholic programs there's just a uh the courts
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just shut down a um a trade school that was fully funded in west virginia and up in the up in north
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dakota i think it was there was another one was a fully funded catholic charter school both those have
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been shut down but as soon as that happens where we get all that money in the catholic church schools
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these kinds of things are going to happen a lot more because in countries like canada and in ireland
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where they have fully funded catholic schools these become issues for them too sure i think i noticed a
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reference in the judgment to this being free education and of course just to be without wanting
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to be too pedantic about this it's not free education it's paid for by parents via their taxation
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um and that i think is another fun if there's one aspect here that the supreme court has has
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confirmed which is the relationship between the parent and the child tacitly i think there's also
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the issue here of of the fact that uh that the that the parents have a right not only as parents but
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also as the fact the fact of that they're paying for their children's um welfare and education
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jenny holland i know you've got a quick point that you want to make on this story
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yeah um i picked up on the same thing that brandon mentioned um which was their the the dissenting
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liberal justices reference to subtle themes and that the um parents did not were being granted an
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invented constitutional right to protect them from said subtle themes and that really struck me because
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you have to be um willfully blind to think that the kind of material that the parents were raising
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objections to um is in any way subtle and if it's anything like the many books i have seen
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uh designed for school-aged children they are anything but subtle they are borderline pornographic
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or overtly pornographic just with sort of like a weird cutesy um twist and they're completely
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unacceptable and i am a secular parent and i absolutely would die on the hill of not letting
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my school-aged child be subjected to this under the guise of learning we don't need to learn such
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things as children there is absolutely no reason for it liberals seem trapped um in this in this
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paradigm where they still think it's the 1950s or maybe the 1980s and there's a bunch of sort of um
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knuckle-dragging um fundamentalists running around trying to protect their children from the existence
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like knowing of that they're the of the existence of gay people but what we're talking about is graphic
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and i mean like pictures of sex acts sometimes between children themselves this is not subtle
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the the aspect on pornography here is i think a tie into the thing that we're going to go and discuss
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now which is the other supreme court judgment over the over the last few days jenny hold on we'll be
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coming back to you later on in the show first of all i just want to do a quick mention for birch gold
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okay let's move on now um liz you're you've got the analysis of this other scotus i think it's
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also six three judgment from from a couple of days ago which says that texas the state of texas can
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require porn websites to verify users ages tell us a bit about this will you sure and this is another
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victory for parents and children um the supreme court decision involves a 2023 texas law which
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required adult websites to verify ages of the users to ensure that they were over the age of 18 in the
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name of the case is free speech coalition versus ken paxton texas law required for example porn hub which
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is one of the the largest adult uh pornography site i might add of hunter biden fame and other adult
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websites to verify user age and it found that the supreme court found that that requirement is
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constitutional um the verification of the user um is ensured especially with websites that have
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more than one third of their content is considered harmful to minors now a group of adult websites um
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filed a lawsuit saying that this is a violation of free speech and privacy and um all interestingly
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the supreme court decision was again a six three majority of the court cited with the texas law finding
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that the age requirement verification is within the state's authority to prevent children from accessing
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sexually explicit content judge thomas wrote um the majority decision um the same three justices uh
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demurred um and this is you know more than a dozen states have filed or have passed similar laws in fact
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the eu with their 27 countries have passed the similar age verification law um ken paxton the ag
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of texas said it was a major victory for children and parents and the ability to protect minors from
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the damaging effects of pornography now people i'm sure know but if they don't they need to be told
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that pornography on the internet is not your grandfather's uh playboy magazine it is nowadays it is violent
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it is exploitive to the worst possible extremes it is um absolutely perverse and to have an age
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verification is absolutely essential for children you know a child can't go to a brick and mortar store
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and buy pornography so why should they be able to easily access it um on a you know internet website
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in the digital space um but mainstream online pornography is a very very powerful um billion dollar
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industry um and research has shown that one in a 12 percent of the video titles in these mainstream
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pornography sites such as porn hub and i'm not going to mention the others describe activities which
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constitute sexual violence and children end up on these sites sometimes tripping onto these sites
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being socialized in sexual violence um but some but interestingly porn hub as a result of this law
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has suspended services in texas which i think is frankly um a good step and interestingly since 2020
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um 300 victims have sued porn hub in 25 lawsuits um saying that they're they're videos of rape and
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trafficking on these websites that's what people need to realize how dangerous these sites are especially for
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children liz i know um few people in america have done more to protect the integrity uh of of kids and
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their and their childhood than you um and i'm glad that that we had you on the show today to to break this
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result down um but let me ask you something this because this is one of those occasions when i was
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reading the dissent and i actually found myself um not convinced but aware that that that i think there
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was an argument here that isn't going to go away and i wouldn't be surprised if the supreme court doesn't
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revisit this at a future stage from the privacy perspective this is what justice uh kagan had to say
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that that the modality of of um of having to prove your age to supply your your age turns over and i quote
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turns over information about yourself and your viewing habits respecting speech many find repulsive
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uh to a website operator and then to who knows the operator might and this is the point right the
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operator might sell the information might be hacked or that information might even be subpoenaed
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uh so obviously i mean i don't have any real in principle issue with the requirement at least to um to
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verify your age to to view these websites but there is this other issue here uh which i said i don't
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think it's going to go away to do with the privacy and where that data goes do you have any um as
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someone who is a lifelong child advocate for children do you have any response to these privacy issues
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well you know many of these websites require your um credit card um to access this information so um
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they don't seem to have problems with the privacy when they submit their credit card and you know this
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is always a balancing act and what i love to what i'm really happy to see is that the pendulum is going
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back to protecting children as we now are knee deep into the internet world and so it's always going
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to be a balancing act between freedom of speech and privacy but what we're now seeing and i would
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encourage people go to my website because i've listed a lot of research that's been done about the
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impact of pornography on children and on society and we need to be ever vigilant to protect our most
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vulnerable you know male brains don't stop developing until they're 25 so you're taking a developing brain
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and submitting it to these violent images you know they've looked at cat scans when people are looking
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at um pornography and the part of the brain that lights up is the same part of the brain that lights
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up when people are on cocaine and on drugs this is a powerful powerful tool and we imposed it
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immediately in the internet without any serious consideration of the consequences on not only adults but on
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liz standby let's just cut back now to jenny um because i know you've got a reaction to this
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jenny holland yep um oh hi yeah uh i well i'm relieved obviously again that the um the ruling went the way
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it did um to me what was so interesting again was in the dissent um the liberal justices wrote that
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this was impeding the they acknowledged the importance of or that the state had an interest
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in safeguarding children but i think they worded it as um impeded the rights of adults to access this
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uh speech um i'm just so relieved that the rights of children are being put ahead of
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the rights of adults especially uh men to be uh to be titillated uh 24 7 um because that's
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essentially what this comes down to um we're not talking about political ideas we're not talking
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about um ideas of any kind uh and that in fact brings me to my second point which is i don't quite
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understand how this is framed as a free speech issue because porn to me personally is not speech
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there is no speaking literally it's all action and um the the idea that you should have a protected
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right to watch uh multiple men violating a woman or um incest active incest occurring how on earth is
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that protected speech i've never understood that um jenny i'm going to ask you this question and i'm
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also ask uh brandon show water the same question on the do you see that there are competing interests
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not on the free speech issue so much but on the issue between uh the the um the privacy here of data
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of user data and where that might finish is that a consideration here in your general support for the
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requirement of age verification not really not not to me personally i mean i'm sure at least legally i
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understand that you can make a case for it but i find it highly ironic that they are pretending to be
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worried about privacy when you are uh engaging in an activity which is voyeuristically um watching
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people do the most so you know apparently private or what are supposed to be the most private things of
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all i mean i think it's such a morally vacuous argument you are you are in the filthy dirty
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dark corners of the internet so yeah if you're worried about your privacy maybe that should be
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a tell that you shouldn't be there at all all right okay brandon show water um give me if you wouldn't
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mind your quick take on this scotus decision tell me do you have any privacy concerns about this
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or am i the only one no i hate porn with a passionate fury so i was glad to see the supreme court take such
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a strong stand in the interest of safeguarding children because the pornography industry as jenny
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was just saying does indeed try to frame their cause as a free speech issue and uh americans who are very
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live and let live type of people are often persuaded by that pornography is the business of sexual
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exploitation that is not free speech and so it's a crucial win and i was i i mean it really does
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say something i think about the left-wing mind that you're actually going to prioritize the rights of
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adults to view smut over the protection of children i mean pandering obscenity to minors is a crime
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and so why on earth is it even controversial for a state to put a law in place to say let's make it hard
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for a child to see this because uh if you know a prowler in the bushes who tries to show a dirty
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magazine to children would be arrested on the spot is it any different if you know an online
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pornographer is trying to you know get at children with a screen i don't think there's much of a
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difference there and so as you know the laws need to update as technology progresses and so this seems
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like an eminently reasonable thing and the fact that it took a conservative leaning supreme court
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to affirm this given you know previous you know precedent which was in favor of the porn industry
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uh this is a very welcome development and let's hope uh that this is the first of many i think for
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uh for the supreme court to rule against the pornography industry then they call themselves the free speech
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coalition that's very strategic uh misnomer there that's what they call themselves it just shows the
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extent of their efforts to hoodwink the public and to gaslight them into thinking that
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sexual exploitation of the worst kind is actually a first amendment protected right
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look as um as a one-time political consultant i i know we've got a break coming up in just
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30 seconds i'll close with this observation as a former political consultant if you are of the
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opinion and everyone all the commentators on the show today seem to be of this opinion that this is
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this is an excellent judgment if you want to ensure that this judgment remains in place and isn't
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overturned at some point in the future it is absolutely imperative on you warring posse america
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more widely that you do everything that you can so that there will not be any data leak because that's
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the thing that will put the judgment like this in jeopardy which is the swing of popular public opinion
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turning against okay back in three minutes after this short break
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welcome back um often as we hit these developments and try and break them down we'll go to
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a key reference in a in a newspaper or magazine to help analyze this but occasionally it's the article
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itself in the magazine that i think is the story and that's the case with this analysis on the situation
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the church of england that jenny holland's going to break down for us today in the economist
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of all i think it calls itself a newspaper of all newspapers the economist talking about the the
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situation here that there was both recently for the first time i think since i don't know
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it cites it 1691 both the sea of rome and the sea of canterbury were vacant jenny tell me a bit
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about this article and uh what impressed you about its analysis to do with the general condition of
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the church of england in england today well i'm afraid it's more bad news from um your home country
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ben uh as regards the church of england it is in uh something of a precipitous decline which won't
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necessarily be a surprise to anyone who watches the war room regularly um and i know that the anglicans
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in the states have a similar spiritual crisis but uh this very very illustrative article detailed
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the staggering loss of numbers of um congregants of the church of england is undergoing um the most
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uh striking statistic was that in 2011 60 percent of britons um identified themselves as christians
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um and in 2021 less than half of britons identified as such and a little over one percent of um church
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of england members go to church every week so um as a result of this they're selling off churches um
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something like 20 uh churches close every year um and it's a really dire situation in terms of the
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national faith of uh the united kingdom um this is also going to get worse likely with uh the ascension
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of prince william when he when he um takes his father's place whenever that may be he's described
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in this article very interestingly as not instinctively comfortable uh and my favorite phrase of all
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with a quote-unquote faith environment and again here we go back to this um weird bureaucratic
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detached uh language that seems to be um very much in vogue in church of england they don't seem to be
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able to say things directly that everything sounds like an hr memo um so it's very worrying especially
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given the the very um politically conflicted time that uh we're going through right now here where we
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have a labor government that's very unpopular um a very restive um native population um growing um anger
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if not fury and rage over uh double standards in uh policing and in criminal prosecutions um and you know
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is it any wonder then if they're going to be so um wishy-washy and timid and so detached from any kind
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of spiritual um enthusiasm uh is it any wonder that they're losing people hand over fist
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yeah and uh the interesting thing about this article in the economist of all places is that this really
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will affect the the culture uh of the uk of england and its sense of itself right you have an observation
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don't don't you jenny that this is and i always say you are a unique contributor on these things
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discussing religious and christian affairs as someone who is um atheist though open brackets you do pray the
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rosary every day um tell you and this is your insight that um from that perspective as well that for
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for for for not just the church of england but all ecclesial communions this is what will happen
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if you replace the the priority of god in the life of your um of your church community with other
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distractions and considerations right yes absolutely the people who are turning toward christianity at
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the moment and i am definitely one of them but there's a lot more like me people who are from liberal
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progressive even left-wing backgrounds and secular backgrounds we uh don't want to go to church or
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join uh a religious community uh again to be told um you know oh tut tut and oh be careful now and
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no we want we we can find that at work we can be lectured to by the hr ladies when we go into the office
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we don't need that when we're seeking spiritual refuge and spiritual strength um and it's you know
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it is it's very interesting that the economist um is even saying that the demise of the church of
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england is not a matter just for the faithful i mean and if the economist is saying that and i've
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heard it called the econo marxist it's not it is not at all uh a maga publication i mean we're talking
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about the uh broadsheet for or the magazine for the globalists um and even they're acknowledging
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that this is going to have a profound effect on um the the very nation i mean this is the the
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religion of the nation yeah um it i think there were 26 24 26 bishops 26 that have an 26 that
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automatically have a seat in the legislature in the house of lords yeah automatically and they're right
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it's an it's an established church it's exactly what america doesn't have on this
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it's an established exactly and they have 5 000 schools as well okay so so you know i i you know
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that could that could be such a positive force but knowing the sort of what that they push out in
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their homilies i can only hang my head and wonder how that's further adding to the deterioration of
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the culture of of the uk let's go to liz you're now um liz give me your um if you wouldn't mind just
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give me a minute or two on your response to the uh the economist's analysis here well i think the
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catholic church should take note of the church of england um because what is happening there is the
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same thing that is rolling out in the catholic church i mean climate change from the pulpit
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lgbt agenda from the pulpit cover-up of clergy abuse justin welby had to step down the head of the
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church of england because he had covered up um a uh clergy abuse case uh but you know it it really
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reminds me of gk chesterton who i love who said you know do not be so open-minded that your brains fall
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out well it sure seems like both in the catholic church and the church of england were being so
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open-minded so politically correct that the brains of the church are falling right out on the on the altar
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and additionally he also said tolerance is the virtue of people who do not believe in anything
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and we see this politicization of the churches and people walking away from the politicization
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of the churches because they want truth they want transcendence and they want the gospel and and moral
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life um and so it's a it's a really parallel situation that the catholic church would be well
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advised to pay attention wise words let's quickly go to frank walker frank you've got a tough job now
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you've got a up the ante on gk chesterton are you are you able to rise to that particular challenge
00:38:55.240
no but i can tell you i can tell you that it's it's so striking that government money always seems
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to destroy churches a big endowment and only one percent in the actual uh going to church nobody
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knows all and it's just not with them it's with the catholics it's all kind of just bubbled up it's
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propped up by government money i think that just like the anglicans and the catholics in the establishment
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have a lot in common the the uh the solution is for catholics traditional catholics and to target
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all sorts of other people like anglicans because together like you know england has a catholic
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heritage that goes back a lot further than the anglican church they need to recover their actual
00:39:40.780
traditional catholic heritage i think that can grow the problem is isn't it frank the problem is once
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you set out on the road of trying to of hitching your future to modernism and modernity everyone
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who believes will leave and all you're going to be left with are the people who are going to be scared
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by religiosity so what i mean today is once you start down that track it's very isn't it very difficult
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to pull back yes and and all of these churches that they're selling off cheap i'm wondering who's
00:40:13.200
buying that i know that chesterton and hilaire bloc said islam is going to take over with this weak
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christianity in europe and that was a hundred years ago um it's just that the the the renewal needs to
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happen faster than the islamization especially in the uk okay frank stay there because we're going to
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come to you now to to have all of the worst prejudices that the war room has held over the last
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with this um this analysis uh from politico which says that pope leo looks to mega mega donors
00:41:55.240
to shore up church finances tell me before you break this down isn't this exactly what the war room
00:42:01.580
had been warning about uh what what politico has said here isn't this exactly what we have said on
00:42:07.200
this show from day one well i thought that there's money problems in the church yeah you have said that
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and um they're they're uh they're really hoping that leo can recover this money in fact even going back
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to the time of um when he was elected a couple months ago they had an america week and and they
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referenced in this article where they had pledges of a billion dollars if they get the right pope but
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this article here has a lot of telling quotes but i think you know as with a lot of political stuff
00:42:36.780
there's a lot of spin that's happening here but they they're saying that leo is touching all the
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right points is are going to make conserve align with conservative donors but i don't necessarily agree
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that that he's aligned with conservative donors the press is making it seem like he's aligning
00:42:54.820
with conservative donors and they say that um francis has cleaned up the vatican bank and and that leo is
00:43:00.780
helping it but leo is just i think reinforcing the same corruption that's been there before um it's all
00:43:07.540
about raising money and this weekend there was a big thing about how he's asking actually asking
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them to give money so they can have unity with him um but he's not doing anything to change the
00:43:19.620
real problem which is that because there's a lot of donors out there that support the church that are
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not conservative in fact i don't even know if there's who are the big conservative donors out
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there and they said well they got leo because they had um conservative prelates were backing him up
00:43:35.360
and saying but who are these conservative you know where is the power they said in this article
00:43:41.080
that cardinal burke even had a meeting with leo two meetings with leo but um you know it's it's all
00:43:47.580
anonymous he's not even allowed he's not even commenting on that that story so i think that
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there's a lot of spin in this article i'm not quite sure yeah i've actually heard pushback against some
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of those things because a lot of some of those things were being pushed out by the trad inc brigade
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precisely because they wanted to hit the fundraisers um and i said from certain quarters i've i've had that
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confirmed that some of these things simply didn't didn't occur let me just before we go to to brandon
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because i want i want to hear what what his take uh as a protestant is to to what's going on because
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no because we catholics comment on the protestant communion i want to i want to get his how this
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how this appears to him but before i do that let me just read this this line here from this article
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and this is why i say i think it's it confirms the war room's coverage really from the first day of
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this pontificate insiders say that leo was elected in part because as an american he ex ex ex exuded an
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anglo-saxon financial seriousness he was also seen as well positioned to bring back donations that have
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dried up thanks to persistent scandal and the hemorrhaging of support from powerful american catholic
00:45:00.280
conservatives you know like the like the papal foundation this is exactly what we said literally
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word for word since um since the beginning brandon tell me what what is the view from um from within
00:45:13.040
protestant dumb on the protestant dumb um if i might coin that term on this are you scandalized or do you
00:45:19.800
see very much the same thing going on in evangelical churches
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i live with three catholics i have a graduate um a graduate degree from the catholic university of america
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and so i do love the catholics even though i am a protestant um i am i am kind of scandalized by it
00:45:38.980
i just really think that if you really want to see people come to faith in jesus what must be done
00:45:45.520
at the this just sounds so simple but it's so true is that the gospel must be must be proclaimed
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faithfully in all of its truth if you're going to take money from people that will water it down or
00:45:57.100
compromise it you can expect to see what's happened in the church of england uh these churches are
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lifeless because they do not proclaim repentance from sin if they bow to the spirit of the age
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you're going to have a lifeless soul-sucking dead as a doornail church and i think that applies across
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the board um with respect to the catholics and the funding and what pope leo is trying to do
00:46:19.100
and the politics around that i will admit that it's it's it's very strange for me to even be invited
00:46:27.100
to comment on it except to say that i think that um i i happen to think that god is doing a big work
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of cleansing across the board and whenever there's funny money or or compromise i think that we're in
00:46:40.000
a time now where i believe we will see the lord cleanse the rot from his entire church uh catholic and
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protestant alike that's my take on it brandon thanks thanks so much liz closing words on this
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uh to you yeah i thought this was such a brazen money pitch i mean i felt like we were back in the
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days of the medici popes where you know which one can fill the coffers that one will ascend the chair
00:47:08.400
of saint peter it's really unseemly and unholy are we really at the point of where the college of
00:47:14.680
cardinals are admittedly going to pander to the rich americans um by conjoling them that we gave
00:47:20.960
you your first american pope so pony up it's as as brandon said we want a good holy man who will
00:47:29.440
preach the faith and protect tradition and dogma and lead the church and purify the church after
00:47:38.280
really a hundred years of the corruption of modernists so they you know it was just shocking
00:47:45.400
for me to see this and to think that we are so um superficial um to read this article and think oh
00:47:52.680
yeah so i'll open my wallet because you know he's a he's an american wearing a white sock chicago white
00:47:58.740
socks hat um it's time to really grow up and get serious um but perhaps they really do believe it and
00:48:05.980
perhaps the money is really drying up um yeah i think it dovetails nicely shame we can't break it
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down today on pope leo's exegesis on the multiplication of the loaves liz where do people
00:48:20.660
go to to keep up with your unique uh and that essential analysis on social media i'm everywhere
00:48:28.300
under elizabeth you're on all social media platforms also um on my website yourchildren.com
00:48:34.360
i've also put a lot of information for parents about the dangers of pornography a lot of the data
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and statistics so um feel free to visit there and educate yourself on this issue
00:48:45.760
lizio thanks very much for coming on the show catch up with you next wednesday evening god willing
00:48:51.400
brandon showwater christian post where do people go to keep up with your writing and with your analysis
00:48:57.280
brandon uh you can go to follow me on exit at brandon m show all of our print reporting is at
00:49:04.880
christian post.com and stay tuned for season five of our podcast series our documentary podcast called
00:49:10.680
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00:49:17.240
that's our landing page and it's also on all major podcast platforms wherever you get your podcasts
00:49:21.680
are you on getter i'm not on getter we're gonna have to do something about that um brandon thanks
00:49:31.360
for coming on the show hope to catch up again with you soon and i can't compliment the the christian
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post uh highly enough catch up again with you soon god bless for now thank you thank you uh jenny
00:49:42.080
holland where do people go to catch up with you on social media i know you have your sub stack
00:49:47.240
yep uh my sub stack goes out every week and it's jenny e holland dot sub stack dot com
00:49:54.300
and you can also find me on twitter at semper femina uh 21 but i send an essay out uh every week
00:50:03.200
saving culture from itself and you are on getter now aren't you i am on getter uh i think it's jenny
00:50:11.440
e holland but i haven't checked in a while all right okay jenny thanks for coming on the show catch up
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with you thanks next wednesday god willing and frank walker the catholic church's answer to matt
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drudge um i'll ask you kindly as i always do if you wouldn't mind posting the links for for tonight's
00:50:29.960
show on your website canon 212 where people can go to download them canon 2212 212 is the i go to
00:50:38.740
every day several times a day to to find out what the breaking news is in the catholic church can't
00:50:44.140
compliment that that that your uh your website high enough frank just give the readings if you
00:50:49.000
wouldn't mind of your social media please and into 12.com and on twitter it's all spelled out on x
00:50:55.480
and then the the video update is on rumble and glory tv and at the stumbling block
00:51:00.100
and that's your blog right stumblingblock.com yeah is it i'll just quickly point out you do need folks
00:51:08.680
you do need to type canon 212 type it all out in words because poor frank walker great hero that he
00:51:16.200
is in addition to fighting non-stop for the catholic faith he has to fight against the google
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algorithmic suppression okay that's all we have time for today on the show my thanks to our guests
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in this order brandon showalter liz yore jenny holland and frank walker i'm your host today on
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steve bannon's warring my thanks to cameron wallace our producer and the great team in denver ben harnwell