Bannon's War Room - July 08, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 804： Reclaiming Our Energy Independence Ending Subsidies For Foreign Energy


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

167.29825

Word Count

8,962

Sentence Count

587

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:19.040 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:24.360 You've just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:28.540 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:30.600 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:32.020 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:34.660 It's going to happen.
00:00:35.940 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:39.340 MAGA Media.
00:00:40.660 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:46.100 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:49.880 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:55.540 Save War Room.
00:00:57.100 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:00:59.140 Bannon.
00:01:03.420 Tuesday, 8 July, Year of the Lord 2025.
00:01:05.780 Already a pretty explosive show from the Abbott, the Abbott, Governor Abbott's press conference.
00:01:11.820 You saw the raw emotion there.
00:01:13.000 Also, the number has increased to 161 now missing.
00:01:16.900 They put a number on that.
00:01:17.920 Ben Burquam was right the other day, the great Ben Burquam.
00:01:21.140 Natalie, thank you for riding shotgun here.
00:01:25.340 Your assessment just first cut hot take on the Rainmaker CEO, the interview we had, ma'am.
00:01:32.580 Well, I might be getting a little bit of deja vu to the origins of COVID, right?
00:01:38.000 I think if you look at the psychological framing and, frankly, warfare of so-called conspiracy theories and misinformation, they want to make it.
00:01:45.720 So if you even dare to ask certain questions about what generated, in this case, not a public health emergency, but, you know, a flood that you're crazy, you're going to be censored, whatever, you name it.
00:01:56.060 I think in this case, it's probably a little bit different.
00:01:59.740 I think if you, you know, sort of maybe steel man the argument, I think the question becomes, well, then why would the United States government be using technologies like these defensively, right?
00:02:10.780 And in the same way, I think it's weird when you have senators like Ted Cruz and the entire sort of tech apparatus already rushing to sort of prematurely debunk just the ability to ask these questions, right?
00:02:20.500 Getting out in front of any meaningful investigation, trying to water that down.
00:02:25.120 But I think the core issue is in whose hands, right, do these technologies belong?
00:02:30.380 And it's the same tech bro sort of contingent that we've seen shift and grift their ideologies, their principles, in some cases their religion, frankly, just to max out and make money.
00:02:40.460 And I think that the sort of convergence that I find uniquely concerning is on the Chinese front, right?
00:02:45.920 If China's plowing upwards of $1 billion into technologies like these, that's not just something they're using domestically, right?
00:02:52.540 I don't know how it works in terms of legality of warfare.
00:02:56.160 You know, they're all into unrestricted warfare.
00:02:57.880 But I think you're opening Pandora's box.
00:02:59.720 And while, like you were saying, I don't know what that guy's lawyers are telling him to say on worm, but I think it opens up a serious can of worms, unintended consequences aside.
00:03:07.680 But the $1.4 billion is also from guys that make, you know, making hundreds of millions of dollars, not billions out of organ harvesting off a lot of human beings.
00:03:16.140 I mean, it's not exactly – I realize we have to watch everything they do, and you've got to be prepared.
00:03:22.040 But as you said, it's unrestricted warfare, baby.
00:03:25.700 Natalie, hang on for one second.
00:03:27.160 I want to go back to Philip Patrick.
00:03:28.540 Philip, we just had one of the senior members of the Treasury Department and one of the top, I guess, economists they have over there, an acolyte of Larry Kudlow, who's Mr. Growth.
00:03:38.400 I think – and he did a very good job of giving you official Washington and the official capital markets response to this group of what they feel are still developing nations down in Rio.
00:03:54.920 And Lula is like a Castro-type figure.
00:03:57.860 Big talk, but a little old, can't hit the fastball anymore.
00:04:02.280 Your thoughts, Philip, and this is the whole reason, this is the entire reason that we wanted you guys to go down there with a group and actually see everybody, talk to the central bankers, talk to the finance ministers, talk to the economists, and try to get your 20 – try to use your 20 to get a snack on the streets of Rio, in which the guy says, no thanks, boss.
00:04:24.440 Give me some Brazilian money, sir.
00:04:27.400 Yeah, look, I listened to what Joe had to say, and I agree with him in some areas, and I disagree in others, right?
00:04:35.120 He said that demand for the US dollar was not waning, it was increasing.
00:04:40.100 I disagree vehemently on that.
00:04:41.900 Look at central bank dollar holdings, they are at 30-year lows.
00:04:47.040 Look at Russia now, 98% of their transactions are non-dollar-based.
00:04:51.680 Look at Brazil, China, India, right?
00:04:54.300 They've signed dozens of bilateral trade deals for global trade in their own currencies, bypassing the dollar entirely.
00:05:01.900 This stuff was almost unheard of, you know, three, four years ago, right?
00:05:07.080 Now, it's certainly true that the US is the biggest global market in the world, but it's also true that the US pays for its imports with debt.
00:05:14.940 So I agree vehemently with Trump's plan to revitalize American industry and manufacturing, but in the meantime, we need something to trade.
00:05:23.740 Now, where I agree is that Trump is a master negotiator, and I've always thought he's going to put bumps in the road for the bricks.
00:05:33.240 Trump's expertise, though, is sticks, not carrots.
00:05:36.540 And I think short term, it's going to work.
00:05:38.900 I've never suggested that this will be linear trajectory for the bricks.
00:05:42.780 It's going to be bumpy.
00:05:44.320 They're not natural allies.
00:05:46.180 But I think one thing we've seen here on the ground, and obviously listening to Lula's comment, they are committed in this respect.
00:05:52.960 So for me, Trump's plans to put forks in the road to create bumps for the bricks will work short term.
00:06:00.000 The only long term improvement I can see, the only way out, is to rebuild trust in the dollar.
00:06:06.780 Trust that was broken in 22, in 2014, in the 80s, in the eyes of the Brazilian, it's been badly damaged.
00:06:14.360 So that's what we have to do through policy and through strength.
00:06:18.500 But I think unless we do it, that's where I disagree.
00:06:22.240 I think the bricks are committed to doing this.
00:06:24.560 It'll be one piece at a time, but I don't think they're going to stop.
00:06:28.300 But is the best tell on that, because rhetoric is one thing, is the best tell on that, continue to see the rates that the central banks continue to buy gold?
00:06:40.180 Because correct me if I'm wrong, you saw Russia with 98%.
00:06:43.440 Listen, I think this is one of the reasons, and I'm going to get Natalie in here if we've got time, because I got great interviews by Jane Zirkle and great interviews by Joe Allen.
00:06:51.620 I don't think I'll be able to use them.
00:06:52.860 I've got to figure out how to use those tomorrow, because I want to get Natalie's thoughts on this Ukraine situation and the Pentagon.
00:07:03.240 Is the tell here, Philip Patrick, the central banks buying, continue to buy gold, maybe not at record rates, but still at very high levels?
00:07:10.880 Because, correct me if I'm wrong, all of these bilateral deals they want to do, everything they want to do, and we're going to take the yuan and we're going to take, you know, the shekel, or we're going to take the yuan or the Russian currency, all of those are the rupee in India.
00:07:28.780 All of those transactions somehow are going to have some sort of gold backup to it.
00:07:33.200 I mean, how are these guys going to take the currency risk?
00:07:35.440 How are they going to hedge this?
00:07:38.160 Look, it's very simple.
00:07:39.500 Like I said, I think last time I was on, gold becomes the store of value, right?
00:07:43.700 Gold becomes the reserve account.
00:07:45.860 We're reducing dollar holdings globally, and that's being replaced by gold.
00:07:50.300 What's going to happen is for individual transactions, for these bilateral trade deals, they'll use local currencies.
00:07:56.680 The idea being Russia don't want to get stuck with a bunch of rubles or yuan.
00:08:01.640 So what will happen on an annual, quarterly, biannual basis?
00:08:05.120 They settle those currency excesses with gold.
00:08:08.520 It's all built into their system through InBridge.
00:08:11.240 It's set up for that.
00:08:12.840 So as I used the analogy before, local currencies become the checking account.
00:08:17.720 Gold becomes the savings account.
00:08:19.300 That seems to be the model the BRICS are working with.
00:08:22.040 And like I said, when you look at the mechanisms they've created, it reflects that.
00:08:26.000 We're already working.
00:08:30.020 You sent me the outline.
00:08:31.480 It was absolutely brilliant of what you've derived from being down there on the deck plates.
00:08:36.840 And we'll have you more on and talk about more of that later.
00:08:38.720 But from somebody's personal financial point of view, besides getting in contact with you guys now, I think now more than ever, because you've got to understand, like we say, not the price of gold, but the process of how the price is driven and what that means for the value of gold going forward.
00:08:56.520 What do you recommend now to our audience?
00:08:59.340 What should the thinking person, given that this Rio reset was pretty big and quite frankly, in the West face, I would say, what should people do?
00:09:09.640 Look, I think it's just a case of cautious preparation, right?
00:09:14.900 We're struggling in this climate for a number of reasons.
00:09:17.560 We have a lack of options.
00:09:19.080 We've got, you know, the value of cash slowly being eroded by inflation.
00:09:22.880 It's a tough climate to navigate.
00:09:24.960 President Trump and his team have made, I think, a very good start, right?
00:09:29.380 We're attracting investment.
00:09:31.520 Inflation looks under control for now, although we'll see if it rears its ugly head.
00:09:35.720 But I think it's a case of preparation.
00:09:37.720 It's a case of hedging, right?
00:09:39.080 The BRICS are hedging their U.S. dollar exposure.
00:09:42.080 And I think as individuals, to a degree, we need to do the same.
00:09:45.660 You and I have talked before, look at gold's performance this century.
00:09:49.720 It's unheard of in modern history, but it's a reflection of what is happening, right?
00:09:55.260 There is a direct correlation between growth in money supply and growth in gold.
00:10:00.280 Until we can get a handle on our budget and deficit spending, that's going to continue to explode.
00:10:06.400 Currency will continue or currency supply will continue to increase and gold will continue to go up.
00:10:11.980 So I think all we have to do is watch central banks and follow suit.
00:10:16.700 These are the smartest guys around.
00:10:18.620 You know, I tell clients all the time, take everything I say with a pinch of salt and look at where the smart money is going.
00:10:24.980 It's going into gold and it is not letting up.
00:10:27.860 And I think your visit there reiterated this.
00:10:32.480 You look at these central banks and, you know, the BRICS movement is the global south or what was called the developing country or the third world to a large extent.
00:10:41.660 And I keep telling people, hey, these people are plenty smart.
00:10:46.720 They all went to the best schools, you know, in Europe and in England and the United States.
00:10:51.460 They all picked the cream of the crop.
00:10:53.260 They all know finance as well as anybody on Wall Street.
00:10:57.500 And these people are smart and they're going to make decisions.
00:10:59.980 And this is what nationalism is about.
00:11:01.360 They're going to make decisions.
00:11:02.480 What they believe is in the best interest of their country, in their sovereignty.
00:11:07.340 And Lula was the first to throw that up there.
00:11:09.580 Right.
00:11:10.020 To say, hey, you know, basically, Trump, you're the populist nationalist.
00:11:13.360 Right.
00:11:13.840 We don't we don't like this global system.
00:11:16.520 We're going to think of another way to do it.
00:11:18.080 So it's quite interesting ideologically, particularly since Lula is a flat out Marxist and on the payroll of the Chinese Communist Party and obviously a puppet.
00:11:26.900 Closing thoughts.
00:11:27.860 Did this turn out to be what you thought it was going to be?
00:11:31.200 Was the trip worth it?
00:11:33.480 Oh, yeah.
00:11:34.460 The trip was worth it.
00:11:35.880 And I was talking to my colleague who's out here with me.
00:11:38.960 It was absolutely worth it, not only for the access, but also understanding sentiment and being able to look at it from an outside perspective.
00:11:48.200 When I told you I was up last night sort of motivated, trying to think of how we can win, it's because of my experiences here.
00:11:55.880 So absolutely, it was worth it.
00:11:58.060 And, yeah, I've come back more motivated to try and find solutions.
00:12:03.160 Steve, we talked for a long time about problems, problems, problems.
00:12:06.500 Coming back from here, I want to find solutions.
00:12:08.820 This is a war that we need to win.
00:12:11.840 Philip, where do people go to make contact with you?
00:12:16.960 We always say, hey, with our sponsors, what we want is the human touch.
00:12:20.380 You guys have gone out of their way.
00:12:22.280 I know I can actually say that we are working on the eighth free installment, the lucky eight, the hard eight on the end of the dollar empire.
00:12:31.500 Even as we speak, where do people go to get it, get access to you?
00:12:35.800 Very simple.
00:12:36.720 It's birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
00:12:40.420 Again, birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
00:12:43.020 Or they can text Bannon to 989898.
00:12:46.200 That'll get them access to, you know, the reports, how and why to invest in gold, the end of the dollar empire series.
00:12:54.300 So, you know, birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
00:12:56.620 And they can get me on Getter at Philip Patrick.
00:13:01.480 Yeah, that simple.
00:13:04.520 Thank you, brother.
00:13:05.560 Look forward to talking to you when you get back.
00:13:08.100 Thank you, Steve.
00:13:09.200 Birchgold.
00:13:11.020 Amazing exercise.
00:13:12.520 We've been working on it for months.
00:13:13.380 It turned out very well.
00:13:14.340 The level of depth of analysis and what these guys pick in the contacts.
00:13:19.100 Extraordinary.
00:13:21.600 Natalie Winters.
00:13:23.120 Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:13:24.220 Just put a shot across a couple of people's bow.
00:13:28.460 This morning, Natalie, we had Tiesel on Eric Tiesel from CRA, one of the few guys remaining there.
00:13:36.020 That great think tank that Russ Vogt helped form so many guys from CRA actually in the administration.
00:13:42.060 And it was about the NDA and how woke has not been codified.
00:13:45.560 The war room posse using bill blaster has to make contact.
00:13:49.200 And particularly with like Tuberville and Rick Scott and people like Eric Schmidt out of Missouri.
00:13:56.160 Jim Banks out of Indiana.
00:13:57.660 These people that are very, you know, thoughtful about the defense budget and what has to happen here because it's increasing.
00:14:03.940 And Marjorie Taylor Greene just put a shot across everybody's bow about Ukraine, Israel, she threw in Taiwan.
00:14:09.340 Everything on a day where I'm going to play a clip for you in a second on a day they had the Epstein situation in the cabinet room that came off this debacle that they put out the other night.
00:14:21.300 But you've got this whole thing about work permits and amnesty.
00:14:25.120 Let's let's I want to go to the president of the United States because I think there's a bunch of core issues here, kind of MAGA issues that need to be worked through and they can only be worked through by the audience.
00:14:35.980 Let's go and play the clip from the president at the at the cabinet meeting.
00:14:40.040 There's no amnesty.
00:14:41.220 What we're doing is we're getting rid of criminals, but we are doing a work program.
00:14:45.940 Do you want to explain that, please?
00:14:47.120 Yeah, this morning we talked about, of course, this was a top of mind question.
00:14:50.980 This morning we talked about protecting the farmers in the farmland.
00:14:53.740 But obviously this president's vision of no amnesty, mass deportation continues, but in a strategic way.
00:15:00.780 And then ensuring that our farmers have the labor that they need.
00:15:04.840 Secretary Chavez de Rimmer has been a leader on this.
00:15:07.320 Obviously, this comes out of the labor department, but moving toward automation, ensuring that our farmers have that workforce and moving toward an American workforce.
00:15:15.100 So all of the above.
00:15:16.600 We've got to give the farmers the people they need, but we're not talking amnesty.
00:15:22.600 OK, so, Natalie, the national security issues brought forward today in the press conference at nine this morning, which we covered in Navarre was there.
00:15:32.780 This was about the CCP and about the food security, our land, etc.
00:15:38.780 She was adamant there.
00:15:40.240 No amnesty.
00:15:41.620 You know, like I say, mass deportations now, amnesty never.
00:15:47.180 They are saying that, hey, the deportation has got to be strategic.
00:15:50.720 I think all of us are open to that since there's at least 10 million.
00:15:54.660 And Holman's 7,000 a day number, Natalie, I think gets you over the first term to nine or nine and a half million, if my math is correct.
00:16:03.200 So that would say to the lower number, edge number, what Biden let in.
00:16:06.860 President Trump said Mark Green, the chairman of DHS, who I think today's his last day, said it's 13 million.
00:16:13.760 President Trump says 21 million.
00:16:15.320 Of course, you've got many more tens of millions after that.
00:16:18.900 But your hometown of Los Angeles, some people are saying part of it's a ghost town, part of East L.A.
00:16:24.460 There's a huge firestorm out there about the continuation of the mass deportations.
00:16:29.840 When you hear words like strategic deportations and work programs, because I've gotten my phone is blown up over what are we talking about work programs?
00:16:40.120 What is what is your sense of things, ma'am?
00:16:43.760 Well, I don't like it at all.
00:16:45.120 Strategic deportations sounds like a cop-out.
00:16:49.320 And frankly, Steve, it's not something that we need to work through with this audience.
00:16:52.820 I think our audience needs to hold the line and advance what I thought were the bedrock principles of the MAGA movement, of everything that undergirds America first.
00:17:03.120 And I think the press conference today, in terms of CCP farm ownership, land ownership, is very important.
00:17:09.620 But in the same breath, when you're trying to allocate more weaponry and resources to Ukraine, that sort of goes against the idea that the PRC is the primary and existential geopolitical threat that the United States faces.
00:17:22.940 For two points, one, we should be focusing on Indo-PACOM.
00:17:26.820 But more importantly, it really should be, I think, a whole-of-country approach to countering the PRC.
00:17:33.260 That's what Eric Tietzel was talking about this morning.
00:17:35.600 And I think you have not just two but three camps sort of within the Pentagon, within the sort of national security apparatus.
00:17:41.920 One is the group that thinks we should be having more meetings focusing on Iran in the Middle East and Ukraine as opposed to China.
00:17:49.800 And then within the China camp, you have the people who use it as cover to push for a trillion-dollar-plus budget.
00:17:55.360 And the small contingent of people who are more aligned with the war room who actually view the PRC, right, as the threat that it is.
00:18:02.580 And take the numbers of, what was it, 98 or so interceptors, right, that were used to shoot down those Iranian drones.
00:18:08.440 That's about the number of interceptors that the United States can produce in two whole years.
00:18:14.060 Blue that and a billion dollars, what, so we can defend another country.
00:18:18.200 And more importantly, right, so if you extrapolate those numbers, it's very concerning.
00:18:22.480 China builds 300 ships for every one ship that we produce.
00:18:26.180 We can't even buy cheap drones because China dominates that market space so much.
00:18:30.320 We obviously dominated that high, you know, price tag, $5 million drone.
00:18:33.700 We aren't even buying munitions because we don't even have anything to strap them onto, right?
00:18:39.400 This is crisis-level, I think, territory.
00:18:42.420 And you see a more aggressive and sort of belligerent Taiwan.
00:18:45.260 They're using words like independence.
00:18:46.860 We are approaching not, you know, in a far-gone conclusion.
00:18:50.400 We're talking in a month or so of really conflict heating up with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:18:55.080 So to be sending more weaponry to Ukraine, to be trying to incite conflicts in the Middle East, getting entangled with Israel, I think it's extremely short-sighted.
00:19:05.140 And I think perhaps the original sin, I think, to go sort of Mearsheimer-esque, right, in the concept of offshore balancing, this is not offshore balancing, right?
00:19:13.540 The idea that we share the same priorities as foreign countries like Israel, like Ukraine, take your pick.
00:19:19.360 Like, there's some convergence, there's some synergy, but it's not 100%.
00:19:23.880 And I think that's sort of the original sin of the neocon ideology, right, that there is just absolute glutafinity there.
00:19:29.460 Our existential threat is the Chinese Communist Party.
00:19:32.900 It's not Iran, and it's not Russia.
00:19:35.600 And we should be focusing from that perspective.
00:19:37.600 And I just have to say, releasing the Epstein files for people who spent their years talking a tough game against the establishment.
00:19:44.240 It's a darn shame to see them become it.
00:19:46.100 Let's continue on.
00:19:50.960 By the way, I'm trying to get Tom Fitton to start the show tomorrow, and Tom Fitton talk about his lawsuit.
00:19:56.260 And what I think one of the things that has to happen, the Justice Department has to go in to the court and ask for the complete turnover, opening up of all the files and turning over of all the evidence.
00:20:08.120 I think that has to happen.
00:20:09.060 I think Fitton's lawsuit gets to some of that.
00:20:11.720 Tom Fitton is going to join us tomorrow.
00:20:13.020 Netanyahu's going back over for another meeting tonight.
00:20:17.120 He's been on Capitol Hill today.
00:20:19.000 They're going to continue on this situation of a ceasefire with Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:20:23.840 There's clearly going to be additional talks in Iran.
00:20:26.920 Hugo Lowe and the team at The Guardian had this kind of blockbuster story out today.
00:20:32.560 We've drawn down, I think, our Patriot missile batteries 75 percent, principally by stripping them out of Korea and the Pacific.
00:20:42.280 You talked about Indo-PACOM.
00:20:44.540 Our THAAD systems, I think, are down 25 percent.
00:20:48.200 We're now looking—President Trump said today we're going to ship more arms.
00:20:51.600 My fear, Natalie, is this is the same replay of the Israel situation where we send the arms.
00:20:59.020 Then we've got to send the air defense systems.
00:21:01.560 Next thing you know, we're operating it.
00:21:02.920 You've got the cruisers, the Arleigh Burke cruisers in the Eastern Med.
00:21:07.100 You're doing combat air patrol.
00:21:09.380 You've become a combatant because you are providing defense.
00:21:12.380 And then all of a sudden you segue into an offensive capability.
00:21:16.680 Now, the end of the 12-day war was, you know, unbelievable.
00:21:20.400 One of the greatest—I think the greatest military operation by a commander-in-chief since D-Day.
00:21:26.200 But my fear is we're inexorably drawn to that same logic of escalation as we get drawn into this situation in Ukraine.
00:21:35.760 Your thoughts and observations, ma'am?
00:21:37.380 Well, I would zoom out even one level further, right?
00:21:41.720 As you always say, we're already in World War III.
00:21:44.100 So if you view the United States not as a would-be combatant against forces in the Middle East, but a combatant against the PRC,
00:21:52.000 this in some ways is, I think, a textbook definition of unrestricted warfare, of everything that Sun Tzu would want, right?
00:21:57.900 Weakening an enemy by draining us.
00:21:59.780 I can't believe I even have to say it, of things like Patriot, you know, defense systems, missiles, drones, you name it.
00:22:06.140 And it's truly absurd, I think, to the sort of corollary to a lot of this trade war stuff.
00:22:12.340 We do retain a sizably significant, you know, upper hand when it comes to the semiconductors and the chips and the sort of AI technology as compared to China.
00:22:23.100 But one of the sort of underreported, which I think follows Hugo's reportings, sort of giveaways that the United States has engaged with the Chinese Communist Party is granting them previously unknown access to a lot of United States chip technology,
00:22:41.000 particularly the super advanced kind of in the semiconductor space, in addition to COMAC, which is one of the state-owned enterprises working not just on military civil fusion type aircraft,
00:22:53.200 but straight up, you know, Chinese, you know, PLA, whether it's PLARF, the rocket force or army military stuff, but actual technologies,
00:23:00.500 but sending them the technology for our jet engines, which I don't think is necessarily a good idea to be sending overseas, let alone to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:23:10.700 But it's just a misprioritization.
00:23:14.300 I think when you look at us getting dragged into another forever war, the prime beneficiary of that would be the Chinese Communist Party.
00:23:21.640 And I think, too, right, you talk about a trillion-dollar defense budget.
00:23:25.080 Obviously, you and I don't support that.
00:23:27.460 But if you, you know, steel man the argument, right, that we're going to be imminently at war against China,
00:23:33.000 then we should be allocating that trillion-dollar defense budget not to help some weird pipe dream of democracy enthusiasts in Ukraine,
00:23:41.920 but to be getting the United States ready for war, right?
00:23:44.980 Not having Indopaycom headquartered in Hawaii, where when you have the PRC concurrently investing intensely in deep-sea, you know, undersea cable cutters,
00:23:54.160 where all you'd have to do is cut that or maybe drop, you know, do some sort of EMP attack,
00:23:58.220 and suddenly you have no command and control.
00:24:01.580 That's what we should be investing in if we want to start spending trillions of dollars, right,
00:24:05.720 not giving Ukraine who knows whatever else they want.
00:24:08.900 So it's just happy talk, and it's more of what we're used to, and it's disheartening.
00:24:15.880 And if I could just make one more point, I think we talked about this with sort of the WMD comparison,
00:24:21.600 Iraq to Iran, the lies about what was going on there.
00:24:24.840 But I think we see that with the Epstein documents now, too.
00:24:28.440 For all this talk and hype of new media, you know, having a seat in the briefing room,
00:24:33.180 I remember I took a barrage of, what, months of weird attacks on myself for being there.
00:24:37.360 It's a real shame to not see other new media outlets holding the line, right?
00:24:42.800 I thought that was why we were all there, to hold them to account for our audiences,
00:24:46.900 not to shill for the administration when they're not following through on what they promised.
00:24:53.140 So, again, I voted for President Trump.
00:24:56.340 We support President Trump, obviously.
00:24:58.340 But I don't think we can let the movement be cheapened on very core principles
00:25:01.900 and be distracted by just a press conference about how we're now going to ban foreign ownership of Chinese farmland.
00:25:09.720 I'm going to get you back tomorrow.
00:25:11.440 I want to talk about L.A., your hometown.
00:25:13.240 But I've got to ask you, your assessment of the response on the Epstein situation in the Cabinet Room today,
00:25:19.560 on a scale from 1 to 10, 10 being perfection, 1 being we're not bringing our best, where did that fit?
00:25:26.140 I will answer this not on a scale.
00:25:31.580 I would say no amnesty for illegals and no amnesty for Epstein.
00:25:35.560 And the fact that I even have to clarify that makes me want to put the answer to one.
00:25:40.920 Look, I don't know what's going on.
00:25:43.040 I don't think we all have to pretend like we know what's going on all the time.
00:25:45.660 But I just know this audience elected President Trump to release the truth about a host of things.
00:25:52.120 And I thought that the Epstein files were going to be a day one thing that's pretty easy compared to the USAID nest of vipers you have going on there,
00:26:01.660 everything that's going on at the Pentagon.
00:26:03.240 I would think the Epstein list would be pretty simple.
00:26:06.880 But I guess when it's involved, probably likely with foreign intelligence operations that we're actively arming,
00:26:12.760 perhaps it gets a little trickier.
00:26:14.280 But I think we need to have a serious, serious come-to-Jesus moment within the MAGA movement about what's going on.
00:26:24.320 Amen.
00:26:25.060 Dave Walsh is going to join me next.
00:26:26.920 Natalie's going to punch out.
00:26:27.860 Natalie, social media.
00:26:28.960 We've got 30 seconds.
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00:26:32.140 Natalie G. Winters on all platforms.
00:26:33.820 Thank you, as always, for having me.
00:26:36.220 You were on fire, ma'am.
00:26:37.740 Thank you.
00:26:38.460 See you tomorrow.
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00:31:17.180 Okay, Dave Walsh joins us today with the Cabinet Meeting, Texas, all of it.
00:31:27.080 Dave Walsh, walk me through the energy.
00:31:30.420 I want to do the study first in the executive order.
00:31:33.060 I'm going to take some time to walk through this because it is important to what we've been trying to explain to people
00:31:38.460 and understand the impact this is going to have on their life, their personal life, community's life, family life, and nation's life, sir.
00:31:48.340 Well, the study is incredibly important, Steve, because the DOE study points out it's about grid reliability and security,
00:31:56.000 meaning we are now massively, massively more exposed to loss of load, brownouts and blackouts,
00:32:03.240 and that are brownouts and blackouts caused by not enough electrification, not hurricanes, storms, winds, lightning strikes,
00:32:09.980 but by simply not enough power being in the system to meet demand.
00:32:14.460 Back in 2012, the country had like 24 percent reserve margins.
00:32:19.260 That's more headroom of power production over demand on average.
00:32:23.700 Now we're down to 14 percent.
00:32:25.380 If you go to a football analogy, that's like instead of having a 40-man squad to facilitate injury replacement
00:32:31.980 and specialist in a ballgame, now you'd have about a 23-man squad, two 11s and two extras.
00:32:39.280 That's the significance of moving from 24 percent reserve margins down to 14, where we now are,
00:32:46.780 where you're getting into now massively exponential increasing probability of brownouts and blackouts
00:32:52.760 in major parts of the country due to not enough electricity.
00:32:55.940 All these coal plants that were shut down, nearly 130,000 gigawatts of them,
00:33:00.920 20,000 gigawatts of nuclear shutdown is placed with a little bit of combined cycle power that's baseload,
00:33:06.400 but a lot with battery storage, wind and solar that are very part-time.
00:33:11.120 So as we replaced 24-hour-a-day power plants because we didn't like their environmental characteristics,
00:33:17.960 deemed environmental characteristics, we haven't replaced them.
00:33:21.060 So we now have a massive electrification shortage, owing to my analogy on the ball teams.
00:33:26.800 This is a disaster.
00:33:28.280 So this study does a very good job of quantifying the massively accelerated probability in much of the country.
00:33:35.940 And this has been chronicled by the grid organizations in MISO, PJM, and even out on the West Coast.
00:33:41.600 Well chronicled by them, the massive exposure statistically to many, many, many more brownouts,
00:33:47.500 up to 100 times more because of the simple lack of electrification in the system,
00:33:52.260 with all this part-time solar and wind being very, very nominal, inconsequential contributors to overall energy.
00:34:02.100 Okay.
00:34:03.280 Help me out here because I think the audience may be in the same situation I am.
00:34:09.540 When I read the report, what you just said doesn't come as a big surprise, but it shouldn't have come.
00:34:18.000 Like, how did we get in this situation when this set of mathematics of this set of physical properties about energy have been known
00:34:29.460 and they've known about this for years from when they first started?
00:34:33.560 How did the pixie dust, like I'm kind of confused how this report,
00:34:38.780 this report shows you a process that got us here that's, and they talk about us being unreasonable.
00:34:46.260 I mean, this is a bigger fairy tale than what they told about the vaccines.
00:34:50.980 I mean, it's because the math here is irrefutable, but we've known that now for a long time.
00:34:57.460 Am I correct on that, Dave?
00:34:59.380 Totally, Steve.
00:35:00.460 Yeah, totally, Steve.
00:35:01.340 We got here because administrations in charge over 12 of the last 16 years, Obama, Biden specifically,
00:35:08.900 used the EPA to deconstruct coal power generation as a generation choice in the United States by intentionally,
00:35:17.420 and their DOE said this under both administrations, making it too expensive to operate further
00:35:22.260 with too much regulatory overhang that made those plants impossible to financially make it based on a theory of CO2.
00:35:30.020 So we deconstructed in that 16-year period something like 130,000 megawatts of baseload all-the-time coal plants
00:35:37.300 based on the way that they prosecuted overreach through the EPA, which now, thank God, we've got our hands on,
00:35:45.220 and in pushing very strongly for incentivization of low capacity, low energy, very part-time, highly intermittent wind and solar power over that same time period.
00:35:58.580 Okay, but hang on, over that 12-year period.
00:36:01.600 The point I want to make, they knew mathematically, given the physical, the laws of physical manifestation,
00:36:12.260 that this couldn't work, right?
00:36:15.300 At the same time, our greatest enemy is doing the exact opposite.
00:36:19.700 At the exact same time, our greatest enemy in China is doing the exact opposite, correct, sir?
00:36:25.580 Yeah, they are doing the exact opposite.
00:36:27.340 They're permitting and in construction on 400 more coal plants as we speak, not because they're coal,
00:36:33.520 but because they have a lot of coal.
00:36:35.060 That's a resource for them that they can exploit that they have, but B, because those plants run all of the time.
00:36:41.900 They're baseload plants.
00:36:43.460 If you're going to have heavy industry, even light industry, a high population,
00:36:47.740 you need continuous-duty baseload electrification running all of the time.
00:36:52.640 And they know that coal, nuclear, and gas provide that.
00:36:55.480 They happen to have a lot of coal.
00:36:57.220 They don't have a lot of gas.
00:36:58.360 This war and aligning them with Russia and Iran just solved that for them, the Chinese.
00:37:03.860 But their build-out, on a percentage basis, remains strongly oriented to baseload, constant-duty coal.
00:37:09.960 Now, they're not following what they have been preaching over here that engages us in buying their solar panels,
00:37:16.240 thin-film PV, inverters, and batteries.
00:37:18.800 But how did the national security apparatus, how did the intelligence apparatus, how did the CIA or DNI not step into this and say,
00:37:31.520 because if you look at this report, what's shocking is how we got here over a decade
00:37:36.900 with people kind of pretending that this is going to work.
00:37:41.740 Clearly, and we're not conspiracy theory guys, but it can't be a coincidence that at the very moment
00:37:48.080 you go down this radical idea and plan, which mathematically can't work, and you know it can't work,
00:37:55.300 at the same time your greatest enemy is taking the exact same information and doing the exact opposite
00:38:01.240 to become a coal superpower.
00:38:03.680 What's it, 3,500 coal-burning plants that they've, and they ain't that clean because they just don't care?
00:38:11.500 So I don't understand how this, that we did food as a national security issue this morning.
00:38:16.720 This is like a massive, in fact, energy is the basis of everything.
00:38:21.620 We've seen that in Germany.
00:38:23.000 The collapse of Germany is industrial power.
00:38:25.680 Energy is the basis of everything.
00:38:27.620 How could this possibly have been lost by the guy stepping back,
00:38:32.040 is supposed to be looking at everything, the national security and the intelligence community, sir?
00:38:37.180 Because, you know, over the 12 years that they ran government,
00:38:40.000 which is three-fourths of the last 16 years,
00:38:42.460 those security agencies reported directly to them and were subjugated.
00:38:46.920 Their views were subjugated to this environmental mantra, environmental fetish,
00:38:51.540 anti-CO2 fetish, ahead of any efforts to strategically enhance energy capacity in this country.
00:38:58.140 So they owned those agencies and they subjugated them to, you know,
00:39:02.500 even Biden's administration was all about empowering every agency across his administration
00:39:07.280 to be anti-CO2, to have an anti-CO2 mission, including the DOE, the EPA, even Treasury, the IRS.
00:39:15.200 All agencies were empowered to have an anti-CO2 emission, a mantra and strategy, and that's insane.
00:39:21.920 The strategy about energy has to be to increase it.
00:39:24.380 So this was consciously ignored by security agencies who knew better, by the DOD who knew better,
00:39:30.940 that even their bases being...
00:39:32.580 The DOD went worse.
00:39:34.380 The DOD was even worse.
00:39:37.680 I had worked as a junior officer back in the 80s in the Reagan administration
00:39:40.480 after sea duty for the chief of naval operations.
00:39:43.420 When the chief of naval operations and the joint chiefs of staff were coming out from the DOD
00:39:48.260 and saying the number one threat to, like, the Pacific, the Navy, is climate change.
00:39:52.840 What are you talking about?
00:39:55.200 Remember, they took the mantra and completely embraced it, that the anti-CO2 mantra,
00:40:01.700 that climate change was one of the greatest national security threats that we had, sir.
00:40:06.460 Yeah, absolutely.
00:40:09.620 And let me...
00:40:10.600 This morning, we were chatting about Brooke Rollins, a good commentary today on ag lands.
00:40:15.160 This has a direct connection to ag lands.
00:40:17.680 For example, in the state of Florida, continuing to this moment, this hasn't changed here,
00:40:21.740 with a neocon former governor, Ron DeSantis, PSC, approving going forward the 10-year...
00:40:27.020 The next 10 years for Florida indicate 299,000 more acres of Florida land
00:40:33.200 will be reversed from farmland to use for solar farms.
00:40:37.580 As our energy plan for Florida, for example, a red state, supposedly,
00:40:41.940 is 91% solar and battery storage going forward the next 10 years.
00:40:46.800 299,000 acres.
00:40:48.620 FPL's 20-year plan is 1,200 square miles of that,
00:40:51.640 which, by the way, is equivalency to the amount of arable farmland in Florida.
00:40:56.300 1,200 square miles of solar farms they're planning to install across the state over the next 20 years,
00:41:01.940 all to enhance their EBITDA, because this adds tremendous asset churn,
00:41:06.720 adds to their portfolio of their national pimped stock, NextEra,
00:41:11.180 which is all about being the largest renewable company in the world, FPL's parent company.
00:41:16.080 Therefore, they want to impose this on Florida.
00:41:18.320 The money in this for them is so substantial.
00:41:20.740 That's four times the cost of the CapEx, on which they get an 11.5% rate of return.
00:41:26.300 The money interests have pushed this wildly, wildly.
00:41:30.300 And those money interests were behind our Senator Murkowski and Ernst pushing this one-year,
00:41:37.740 5% commitment thing that, guess what, you could, if you had a plan announced next year for solar or wind,
00:41:42.920 you could do it as long as you committed to 5% of the cost next year, 2026.
00:41:47.020 But doesn't this executive order part to make up for some of the sins of the reconciliation?
00:41:56.040 Yeah, it does.
00:41:57.560 It calls for a careful assessment of any of these.
00:42:01.760 Let's be very specific, because a lot of people are still burned up about some of this on the Green News scam
00:42:11.260 and things that are allowed in this.
00:42:12.620 Walk me through how this executive order coming so quickly afterwards is to try to make up for some of the sins of that, sir.
00:42:20.700 Well, the big, beautiful bill calls out the terminus of incentives for projects executed after December 2027.
00:42:27.920 That's a good guy.
00:42:29.420 The bad part of it, though, Ernst at the last minute with Murkowski and Kennedy helping her came up with an amendment that said,
00:42:34.880 oh, by the way, if you announce a project in 26 and it gets only to a state of 5% completion,
00:42:40.820 whether it's a deposit, financial commitments made, a contract commitment that can be deemed to be a completion state of 5%,
00:42:47.640 that project can go on forever and be incentivized over 12, 15, 20 years of the life of finishing it.
00:42:54.880 So this gets in the way by giving Besson, Treasury Sec Besson, the ability to get involved with these construction
00:43:00.960 and other activities next year that can be manipulated and circumvented just for the purpose of dragging out incentives
00:43:10.460 to be applied to projects started next year, surveillance over those to probably approve them one by one
00:43:17.300 for application of the tax code that would allow incentives to make sure they're not being gerrymandered.
00:43:22.440 So, no, the EO directly names that.
00:43:25.120 The projects in the coming year that have this special get-out-of-jail-free pass on,
00:43:29.060 oh, if you commit to only 5% of a project, it can be completed whenever beyond 12, 27 to gather incentives.
00:43:36.580 So this has teeth for Besson to be involved in approving those that circumvent
00:43:42.940 or intentionally circumventing the intent of the Big Beautiful Bill
00:43:46.080 to terminate these incentives at the end of 27 on projects done in 27.
00:43:52.320 What else in this executive order lays out kind of the theory of the case
00:43:57.000 that you've been presenting to this audience for the last couple of years?
00:44:00.740 Well, no, it makes very clear.
00:44:02.160 I mean, this is about part-time intermittent energy drives a horrendous gap in national security
00:44:08.060 for the production of the equipment, for manufacturing, for reshoring,
00:44:12.340 all of the kinds of things that mass electrification is needed for
00:44:16.820 are not being served by intermittent, part-time, foreign-sourced,
00:44:21.980 a.k.a. horrendous Chinese supply chain.
00:44:25.460 Without calling it out directly, equipment flowing into the market
00:44:29.120 that can stop at any time and or have sensors included, without saying that directly,
00:44:34.140 but calling out foreign support from nations not aligned with this one
00:44:40.200 on becoming the primary component supplier for energy, which it now is.
00:44:44.540 China's about 60%, 70% of the total value of power generation equipment supplied to this country
00:44:51.440 in the last five years, 2020 through 2025.
00:44:56.460 But 91% of what's been applied is now solar, battery storage, and wind.
00:45:00.860 60%-plus emanating from China of all of that spending.
00:45:05.400 So that's a horrendous risk position that this gets right at,
00:45:09.300 naming that we need domestically resourced equipment and supply,
00:45:13.660 not nations hostile to us militarily and by their various positionings diplomatically.
00:45:19.080 Does President Trump fully embrace now, like he did in the first term,
00:45:26.880 full-spectrum energy dominance?
00:45:28.880 And if he does, if you say he does, can you show us what he's been doing in that regard?
00:45:34.940 Well, he does.
00:45:35.880 I mean, look at all the actions he's taken on offshore drilling,
00:45:38.600 drilling in the Arctic Refuge, drilling in the Gulf of Mexico,
00:45:42.800 freeing up federal lands for the purpose of drilling and mining, by the way,
00:45:46.900 in certain areas, for uranium, for yellow cake.
00:45:49.900 The nuclear initiative he announced is way about allowing fuel reprocessing to occur
00:45:54.940 in this country across many sites operated commercially by responsible utilities
00:46:00.540 who have been involved in nuclear power for 60 years.
00:46:03.500 Let them, let OEMs get more involved in fuel reprocessing
00:46:06.780 to allow more nuclear fuel at a lower cost level be domestically sourced by reprocessing
00:46:12.260 and B, by mining, pushing that forward.
00:46:15.020 So he's done, and then his coal initiative to allow acceptability of looking at supercritical coal,
00:46:21.720 super high temperature coal, which is very clean, which is not what China uses, by the way.
00:46:26.720 Xi Jinping has addressed the cleanliness issue of the plants being built over there 10, 20 years ago.
00:46:32.760 They're now mainly all ultra-supercritical technology that was invented over here, by the way,
00:46:37.580 super high temperature, that have tremendously low emissions characteristics of nitrous oxide,
00:46:43.500 SO2, heavy metals in the Chinese coal plants.
00:46:47.680 President Trump pushed forward the acceptability of re-engaging on that baseload power source,
00:46:52.680 which is a very American fuel-based coal, 400 years of coal on the ground here,
00:46:57.300 as an acceptable alternative going forward.
00:47:00.300 What's been a little slow has been the action on solar and wind,
00:47:02.940 but I think he's properly waited for the final best effort on a legislative basis to get in the way of this,
00:47:09.860 because all these tax code benefits to solar and wind and battery storage are buried in the tax code.
00:47:15.260 Only Congress can repeal them.
00:47:17.680 So he did his level best to, let's see how they come out.
00:47:20.600 They came out at the end of 27 projects, that all goes away,
00:47:24.120 but with this loophole that now he's addressed through the EO.
00:47:26.760 So no, he's been judicious, and I think a little bit early influenced by Musk in the opposite direction.
00:47:32.700 He's gone now, fortunately, and I say him because he's a massive supporter and supplier in his business of utility-scale battery storage.
00:47:40.960 If you like battery storage, you love solar and wind,
00:47:43.880 because it creates the intermittency and part-time that drive demand for batteries.
00:47:47.560 That's what he was all about.
00:47:48.780 He's admitted that very openly now.
00:47:50.680 His influence is off the table.
00:47:52.660 So this strategy waiting for the congressional best effort to end these incentives,
00:47:57.060 now buttressed by the EO,
00:47:58.420 is, yeah, he hasn't changed his basic philosophy on energy is at the core of reengaging the American economy and its dominance.
00:48:09.500 Amazing.
00:48:10.720 Where can people get this, your analysis of all of it, and be able to chew on this?
00:48:15.760 Because it's a major development.
00:48:17.560 You've worked on this for years.
00:48:18.720 It's incredible.
00:48:19.420 Both the report and the executive order, sir.
00:48:25.040 I'll say, too, if anybody wants to look, the MISO, PJM, WECC, West Coast Energy Grids
00:48:32.940 are all over reporting out about this crisis of lack of electrification in their writings.
00:48:38.260 Look at those.
00:48:38.920 But I'm on Getter, True Social, and X at Dave Walsh Energy.
00:48:42.700 Thank you, Steve.
00:48:43.340 Appreciate the forum to talk about this.
00:48:44.800 Thank you, brother.
00:48:46.580 Always.
00:48:47.460 You nailed it.
00:48:49.620 That's why we're proud of this platform, the people that are contributors here.
00:48:54.200 Dave Walsh, dead spot on in this.
00:48:56.060 And a huge, massive issue, as Dave Walsh has taught us,
00:49:01.380 until you get your energy right, you can't get your economy right.
00:49:05.220 And Dave Walsh has been at the forefront of this.
00:49:07.180 A couple things.
00:49:07.680 I want to make sure that MyPatriotSupply, the folks there,
00:49:10.400 MyPatriotSupply.com, Bannon, the end of their July 4th sale is going to be today.
00:49:18.240 They're going to be open.
00:49:19.540 You know, you can call, go online, check it out.
00:49:22.880 These are the best folks in the business for preparation.
00:49:26.260 I don't think we need to reiterate to this audience when you talk about grid sustainability,
00:49:32.540 when you think about what's happened in Texas, what happened in North Carolina.
00:49:36.040 These are biblical-level events.
00:49:40.180 It can happen anywhere at any time on so many different levels.
00:49:44.820 The reporting from Geneva on artificial intelligence should make sure you understand
00:49:52.220 what's going on in this interconnected surveillance state that's being put together off of data.
00:49:58.040 You need to be more prepared and to make sure that your family is prepared more than ever.
00:50:04.400 MyPatriotSupply.com.
00:50:05.480 These are the best folks in the business.
00:50:07.420 And what they've got is consultants, essentially, when you go there.
00:50:11.260 So go check it out today.
00:50:13.080 MyPatriotSupply.com.
00:50:14.620 Go online right now.
00:50:15.940 Check out everything they've got.
00:50:17.300 They have really invented this vertical.
00:50:20.680 And now they have so many different product offerings, not just simply the food,
00:50:24.420 but everything across the board, including energy, batteries, everything.
00:50:29.260 Just go check it out.
00:50:30.060 It's pretty, pretty, pretty amazing.
00:50:32.680 MyPatriotSupply.com.
00:50:34.460 Also want to thank Philip Patrick and the team.
00:50:38.080 Extraordinary reporting from there to put you ahead of the curve, this bilateral situation.
00:50:43.780 Remember, the thing that underpins this is we came off the gold standard in 70-what-one.
00:50:50.940 So many bad things happen after that.
00:50:53.120 And I'm not a gold bug.
00:50:54.780 But you just look at the math.
00:50:57.180 The BRICS nations understand that.
00:50:58.860 All the people running their central banks and their finance ministries went to the University of Chicago,
00:51:03.300 went to Harvard Business School, went to Stanford Business School.
00:51:05.720 They've got plenty of smart folks.
00:51:07.660 And they can work in HP-12C, the old little handheld calculator that can do net cash flow, right?
00:51:16.260 Net present value.
00:51:18.780 Birchgold.com.
00:51:19.800 Two ways you do it.
00:51:20.600 Number one, it's kind of easy, quick, and dirty.
00:51:22.940 That is text Bannon at 989898.
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00:51:37.400 Or you can go to Birchgold.com slash Bannon, the end of the dollar empire.
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00:51:44.080 You also get contact with Philip Patrick's team.
00:51:47.360 I think there's something that unites that.
00:51:49.160 Philip Patrick's team.
00:51:49.840 You want to talk to the guys at Birchgold.
00:51:51.820 It's not the price of gold.
00:51:53.480 It's the process of how you derive that price, how they get to the price, how they get to the value of gold.
00:52:00.520 It ain't the price of gold.
00:52:01.500 It's the value of gold.
00:52:03.680 Check it out today at Birchgold.com.
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