Stephen K. Bannon and Brandon Showalter talk about the Catholic tradition of venerating saints who have died but whose bodies have not decayed after their death. They also talk about a priest who was sentenced to five years in prison for rape of a 16-year-old boy.
00:01:19.000We'll be touching the fact that the Bishop of San Bernardino has dispensed illegals in his diocese from having to go to mass on Sunday.
00:01:29.000Lots that tells you about the current psychology of the Leo church in that.
00:01:35.000We'll be hitting that towards the end of the show.
00:01:38.000And we've also got, as we promised last week, this horrific story about the French archbishop in Toulouse,
00:01:45.000who was just appointed as his diocesan chancellor, a priest who was sentenced to five years in prison for raping a 16-year-old boy.
00:01:55.000But first, very delighted and honored that Brandon Showalter from the Christian Post has taken time from his zipping across the United States of America to join us today.
00:02:10.000And he spoke at the Federal Trade Commission last week at this conference, which we mentioned on the show.
00:02:17.000And I have to say, it's quite genius to start deconstructing the practice of gender-affirming care effectively from this trade dynamic of what would be, I suppose, the American equivalent of the Trade Descriptions Act,
00:02:34.000because what's in the tin is not what's on the label.
00:02:38.000So, Brendan, before we continue, tell us a bit about this.
00:02:41.000Let's just have a quick extract of what you said at this conference.
00:02:47.000At this event today, the injuries are incredibly brutal.
00:02:52.000I've seen things that have put gray hair in my black hair.
00:02:57.000And it's just, you'll age pretty fast.
00:03:00.000You don't want to see the kinds of things that I see in my inbox and I hear from parents about what has happened to their children.
00:03:07.000And I'll say, when we talk about unfairness and deceptive trade practices, because it is based on an irretrievably flawed premise that it's actually possible to be born in the wrong body,
00:03:21.000any medical treatment toward that end is going to do damage guaranteed full stop because it starts with a lie.
00:04:13.000Tell us a bit then, you've got some case study examples here.
00:04:17.000Tell us, why don't you open with those?
00:04:19.000Tell us some of the cases that you were just discussing there, and then we'll break this down as part of the FTC's wider sort of deconstruction of what's going on here.
00:04:32.000Yes, it was a great FTC panel workshop where they are tackling unjust and unfair trade practices, and they're specifically zeroing in on the medicalization of gender in children.
00:04:44.000And because it begins with the lies I just said there in that clip, it does damage.
00:04:49.000And I mentioned three injuries that I saw that I've reported on or seen on the front lines in the near nine years that I've been doing this journalistic work.
00:04:59.000One was a poor man who went into his appointment.
00:05:03.000He was believed and convinced that he was supposedly transgender.
00:05:08.000Went the full trans path, got his testicles amputated, took the hormones, just full bore into that awful surgery.
00:05:59.000This is a story about the French Archbishop of Toulouse, who has appointed as the chancellor of the diocese a priest who spent four years, sentenced to five, four years in prison for repeated rapes over a two year period back in 93, 94 of a 16 year old boy.
00:06:21.000His defense was that he was taking the side of mercy.
00:06:26.000And I just note, Frank, in passing before handing over to you, this guy is actually a Bergoglio appointment to Toulouse back in 2021.
00:06:34.000Interesting there, I think, to see mercy being so misused by this French Archbishop, much in the same way that the concept of mercy had been perpetually misused by Bergoglio, stage name Pope Francis himself right throughout his 12 year pontificate.
00:06:53.000Frank, tell me, what were the first things that struck you about this story?
00:06:59.000Well, I think that the—thanks, Ben—I think that the way that it was handled by the Archbishop, which I have a picture of him up there from last week at Canon 212, hang gliding in tandem with a friend of his.
00:07:14.000You know, he doesn't look like a serious guy, but the way he handled it, he just seems to have no sense whatsoever of the people that are involved, of the parishioners, of what—of propriety and what people would think about this.
00:07:27.000He's handled it so poorly that people are just saying, well, what in the world is going on with the church?
00:07:33.840You know, he doesn't seem to be the least bit sorry about how he handled it.
00:07:38.640And he says, and rightly so, he says, we sent all the paperwork to Rome.
00:07:46.740I went—I've met with lots of victims, and I've wept with them, see?
00:07:50.680But the mercy, like you mentioned, is so important.
00:07:54.140And it makes you think, is there a wider push in the new church, the Francis's church, Leo's church, to try to create a different way of looking at these kinds of situations?
00:08:06.240Because, you know, if you go back, it really extends more beyond this bishop in Toulouse, because he just—he was only there a couple years, Francis put him in there.
00:08:15.180But the bishop before him had made this priest the vice chancellor.
00:08:19.500The chancellor at a diocese is important.
00:08:28.300He sort of works very closely with the bishop.
00:08:32.140But he was already vice chancellor when he was there before.
00:08:34.940But going back, when this happened, when he first was out of prison, they put him in a parish, and they had him working with children.
00:08:43.960And then they moved him from that, and after an outcry then, into the Vatican Archive—I mean, the Archive was at the diocese for a few years.
00:08:55.020Frank, this is the big WTF moment for me in doing my research on this story, was that immediately after this priest, Father Spina, had been released from prison.
00:09:09.380And I repeat this, released from prison after being sentenced to five years for multiple rapes over a two-year period of a 16-year-old boy, the diocese of Toulouse puts him in charge of children's ministry.
00:09:37.100They took a guy who'd just been in prison for four years for raping—repeatedly raping a 16-year-old boy.
00:09:43.600The moment he's released from prison, the Catholic Church puts him in charge of children's ministry.
00:09:50.540Frank, when I was looking at this, the first question I had had is, what compliment does this guy hold on relative bishops or cardinals in France, or possibly even in the Vatican, to be able to pull off that kind of maneuver?
00:10:09.320The first thing I thought when I saw this was that, you know, it's sort of Jeffrey Epstein, perhaps, on a smaller scale.
00:10:23.620There is no logic on God's green earth where you can take a guy fresh out of prison for repeatedly raping a 60-year-old boy and put him in charge of children's ministry.
00:10:41.240I mean, the fact that Rome handled it so poorly in these articles that you presented here, they didn't treat it.
00:10:47.660I mean, he forced himself on this 16-year-old boy, and he was not considered a minor by canon law at the time.
00:10:54.940Now it's 18, but still, he should have been laicized by Rome, and that did not happen.
00:11:01.220And I remember reading before these charges even happened, and by the way, the boy that he, the man, well, he became a man, that he molested.
00:11:09.780The boy that he molested entered the seminary, and that's when it started to become well-known.
00:11:15.180But before this priest, Father Spina, was in these positions, he was the vocations director at the diocese.
00:11:23.000That means that anybody that wanted to be a priest had to come to him.
00:11:26.060He was the screener, and this isn't the first time that I've seen this happen in dioceses in these stories.
00:11:32.060In dioceses all over the world, men like this are deciding who could become a priest and who doesn't get to be a priest.
00:11:39.280So it's just a network, a lavender mafia, and they're all afraid of each other.
00:11:45.900And I think the reason why this guy gets to do what he does and gets pushed up is because he's got the goods on everybody, and they're all afraid of him.
00:11:54.100And even in Rome, it's amazing what this bishop has said about this situation.
00:12:00.280Because I think Francis' whole new theology of mercy has a lot to do with this.
00:12:05.160His whole looking at the way they're welcoming homosexual lifestyle and blessing them and making it a formality.
00:12:16.820I think that we can say that Father Spina today, if we believe as a Christian faith and simple humanity, invite us to do, that a person's conversion is possible.
00:13:11.960I would almost go to the line on this and say this guy has, as you say, got into children's ministry, got into vocations director.
00:13:22.120He's been having his, you know, there's no one in a diocese that has his hands more on late teen male youth than the vocations director guiding them towards ordination.
00:13:35.140We could, perhaps we should talk about this for the whole hour.
00:13:40.940But, Frank, and I know that we've got Brandon Showalter back online now.
00:13:44.640Before we go over to him, you said something there that is so, so important, and it really indicates the crisis that the Catholic Church has been in, especially since the Second Vatican Council.
00:13:56.400And this is the fact that the aforementioned vocations directors right across the diocese, across the world, have implemented, basically, for 60 years, a policy of screening out young chaps that actually have Catholic vocations because they're called too rigid, that they've been screened out and turned down for the peacehood because they're considered to be too conservative, too rigid.
00:14:24.380I mean, that's the actual word they use, and bringing in sexual deviance.
00:14:30.180And we've seen the absolute wasteland of the Catholic Church that has resulted from that because, basically, perhaps one or two in a hundred priests these days, parish priests, are only good.
00:14:42.700The rest are deeply subversive against the Catholic faith.
00:14:46.880And that is a crisis that has been institutionalized deliberately and put in the hands of vocations directors.
00:14:56.160And there's more work to be done on covering that.
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00:16:12.760Okay, Brandon, I think we've got you back online.
00:16:15.220Tell us more, if you wouldn't mind, about these horrific instances, these case studies of the biological vandalism that has been perpetrated against America's youth.
00:16:28.020Yes, thank you, Ben, and apologies for the technical difficulties earlier.
00:16:31.380But yes, the case studies that I mentioned at the Federal Trade Commission were the following.
00:16:36.620I interviewed a man who underwent castration, and that poor guy wound up with severe suicidal ideation, severe endocrine complications, and again, this isn't safe for little ears.
00:16:50.200Another woman I mentioned at the FTC, I saw her on Instagram.
00:16:53.640She had a phalloplasty surgery where they harvest forearm tissue to make a fake penis, and then they so badly mangled her nether regions, butchered it.
00:17:04.060She had to have, I think, close to 30 or more revision corrective surgeries, and it was to the point where she had to urinate out of her anus into an ileostomy bag.
00:17:31.720There was also a young man there who had been castrated.
00:17:34.660I mean, what we have allowed to happen to America's youth and young adults under the banner of so-called gender-affirming care is an absolute and total disgrace.
00:17:44.540It's one of the worst medical scandals, one of the worst child abuse scandals the world has ever seen, and worst of all, it's been baked into all of our institutions.
00:17:53.480And so, in my opinion, Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew Ferguson and the other commissioners are to be applauded and commended for taking a look at the deceptive and misleading fraudulent diagnoses and other commercial practices that market this insane medical barbarism as health care to families and to youth.
00:18:13.420And so, that was in keeping, the Federal Trade Commission's action was in keeping with President Trump's January 28th executive order decrying gender-affirming care as in the chemical sterilization and surgical mutilation of children as a stain on our nation's history, and it must end.
00:18:28.580So, it was a watershed day at the Federal Trade Commission last week, and I was honored to be among the speakers who were there presenting, and it was receipt after receipt, evidence after evidence.
00:18:38.580Clearly, if the FTC can do anything under the FTC Act Section 5, which is their scope of authority, I think we can be expecting some executive agency action.
00:18:49.080And even the Department of Justice's chief of staff, Chad Mizell, was there speaking, proctoring a panel, and he announced that approximately 20 subpoenas had been issued against these transgender clinics.
00:19:00.160And so, the Trump administration is clearly moving against this medical barbarism, and it's a most welcome sign.
00:19:07.200And from the FTC perspective here, it's important, I think, to drill down on that point that you were making in the extract, the conference extract that we had at the beginning.
00:19:29.580And fundamentally, it doesn't change a person's gender because it can't do.
00:19:34.780But, look, there's this one thing I want to ask you, right?
00:19:37.940There are many things I want to ask you.
00:19:39.180There's one thing I have time to ask you.
00:19:40.700One of the panelists there, and this, I think, is something that all American parents should be aware of.
00:19:46.140There was one guy there, Gareth Amaya Price, who mentions explicitly that he feared that the psychiatrist who was talking to his son, who transitioned, but not in a permanent biological way.
00:20:01.260It was just, I don't want to use the brutal term, transvestitism period, but then he transitioned back to being a guy.
00:20:11.120But the father here, in speaking to the psychiatrist, he said that his fear was that the medical community would have his son confiscated from him by child protective services because of his reluctance to affirm transgender procedures.
00:20:29.180And what the psychiatrist was basically saying to him was that, look, you can either have a living daughter or a dead son.
00:20:38.960And this, Brandon, this wasn't a one-off strong-arm strategy, is it?
00:20:43.720This is something that the trans lobbyist within the medical community is doing again and again and again to parents.
00:20:51.500It's the most vile emotional blackmail, Ben.
00:20:56.360That is, you want to talk about consumer fraud and a deceptive practice.
00:21:00.920What on earth grants a professional to intimidate and fraudulently mislead a patient or a customer saying that if you don't allow this, if you don't go forward with this, you're going to wind up with a dead child?
00:21:16.280I mean, how in the world is that a legitimate consumer practice?
00:21:21.020And a lot of the detractors in the media, and I've seen coverage of this, you know, people who are poo-pooing this.
00:21:25.980It's like this is not within the FTC scope of authority.
00:21:28.560This is violating the doctor-patient relationships.
00:21:30.600That when you're pushing products, when you're pushing medical services and hormones and breast binders and all of these other accoutrements that come with sort of the transgender space, you absolutely are engaged in consumer fraud and deceptive trade practices.
00:21:46.040Because I don't know of a single other context where you are told that you have to go through with this or you're going to have a dead child.
00:21:54.020It's one of the, like I say, it's vile emotional blackmail.
00:22:00.540Especially in blue states, family court judges and other officers of courts are trained by gender activists in these clinics to coerce parents, strong-armed parents, into going along with this.
00:22:14.240It's one of those, I mean, I said this in my remarks too.
00:22:16.740Parents have been living inside of a straitjacket of silence for fear of losing their children.
00:22:22.380And especially sometimes there's opposition within their own families and communities.
00:22:25.780It's one of the most hidden nightmares that our society is enduring.
00:22:29.800And I just can't be grateful enough to the Federal Trade Commission for giving seven and a half hours of platform time to the most unequivocal truth tellers in the medical field, journalists, lawyers, other people who have been screaming bloody murder for years.
00:23:01.920Look, you're too modest to say this, but I know that you were involved behind the scenes quite heavily in putting this conference together.
00:23:09.040Very grateful for you coming on and giving your first-person account of what you said and why you were putting this thing together.
00:23:16.980We'll catch up with you again, God willing, next Wednesday as we break through the news, all the news in the Christian world together.
00:23:23.200Just in the meantime, where do people go to follow your writings on the Christian Post and also your own podcast of Generation Indoctrination?
00:23:32.080Yes, I probably won't be able to be with you next week because I'll be out of town, out of commission, but I look forward to talking with you again soon.
00:23:39.040You can catch all of my writings at christianpost.com, my byline.
00:23:44.940Generationindoctrination.com is the landing page for our documentary podcast called Generation Indoctrination.
00:23:50.780We just launched the first episode of the fifth season, and we'll be having a second episode come out probably next week.
00:23:57.240I would also urge everyone to check out the Dead Name Documentary at deadnamedocumentary.com.
00:24:02.760That's also on Amazon Prime, and you can follow me on x at Brandon M. Show.
00:24:09.100Brandon, many thanks indeed, and I wish you safe travels across America as you're spreading the gospel as you do constantly.
00:24:18.320Catch up with you soon. God bless for now.
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