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00:12:39.060But all it took for it was for him to step down as president of the Media Research Research Center.
00:12:43.820And then this came about two months later.
00:12:45.980So if he had stepped down 30 years ago, we may have been here a lot sooner.
00:12:51.440Your father is a great man, and he's been on this crusade a long time.
00:12:54.720How do you answer today they threw up at the last second in the debate?
00:12:59.360And we've got to give a hat tip to all those organizations, particularly Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri that really went out of his way and stood up, I think, for 24 hours, beating back amendments.
00:13:09.100How do you answer the question, well, this is terrible because MAGA is all rural, and these folks aren't going to get rural news.
00:13:32.460We did a deep dive into NPR's local affiliate down there in Kerrville, Texas, as the floods were unfolding.
00:13:38.900And this was a claim that NPR made in their closing argument.
00:13:42.920They're the only ones that could provide an emergency beacon to a local rural community.
00:13:47.980They were missing in action, Kerrville, Texas, totally missing in action.
00:13:51.900And in fact, Texas Public Broadcasting System had the audacity to put out on Facebook a plea for its followers to call their senators and congressmen to preserve their funding for the purposes of preserving their emergency broadcast system within the NPR apparatus.
00:14:10.480They put out the social media posts while the floods were beginning in earnest, and they were nowhere to be found.
00:14:17.280In fact, Kerrville Police Department in Texas confirmed to the Media Research Center that they did every single – the spokesman down there, they did every single private radio show that they could get their hands on in and around Kerrville County.
00:14:31.300You know who never called Kerrville Police for an interview?
00:14:59.200Most of all, their programming was beamed out from Boston, New York, Philadelphia.
00:15:03.780Yeah, which really plays the rural communities.
00:15:06.500David, your father was going to head up VOA and then the whole thing, the global media.
00:15:11.480Then he's gone to be the ambassador to South Africa.
00:15:14.600So Kerry's over there, and of course we had this situation today.
00:15:17.120As we go forward – and Russ has said we're going to do more rescissions.
00:15:22.540President Trump says, look, I want to get all this – she's taking VOA down to its deck plates.
00:15:28.360Media Research Center, where else are you guys going to be pointing that we should include in future rescissions packages other wasteful media spending?
00:15:38.760It basically has left-wing media that taxpayers are paying for, sir.
00:15:42.680Yeah, well, with the taxpayers they're paying for, one of the things that we've got a really keen eye on, Steve, I want to look really deep in Apple News, Google News, Yahoo News, and Microsoft.
00:15:53.940These are all outlets that are coming by default on our cell phones and devices nowadays.
00:15:59.360And a lot of folks, particularly some of our seasoned audience, are looking at Apple News sort of by default.
00:16:05.360I mean, they're not logging on to X and creating accounts.
00:16:08.140They're not logging on to Instagram and creating accounts.
00:16:10.180So these news entities that are basically – Google, for example, is getting a lot of its source material, especially in Gemini, from Wikipedia, of all things.
00:16:20.720So Media Research Center is definitely going to take a look at this and make sure – if we have to, if we need to do to Apple News what we've done to NBC and MSNBC and create that public backlash against their presentation, then we'll do it.
00:16:34.600David, how do people get you on social media?
00:18:07.760Right now, even as you speak, there's a Donnybrook up on Capitol Hill because some Republicans are joining with Democrats to say, hey, we want – we're going to have an amendment here.
00:18:18.980Or we're going to pass something that the House wants to basically release all the Epstein files.
00:18:29.460And it does take kind of a minute or two to lay it out.
00:18:33.180Well, basically, I felt the need to write this article showing a part of what may be kind of around this decision about releasing or not releasing the Epstein files based on what I knew to be true from previous years of my own life.
00:18:53.140And it was triggered by an interview that Eric Weinstein, who's the Harvard-trained mathematician, who until 2022 was the managing director of Teal Capital, gave to a podcast.
00:19:11.860And in it, he was describing something that I'm very familiar with, and I will tell you in a minute why.
00:19:18.060But what he was describing is a situation in which it's like another flank of the Epstein story, right, that has gotten very little attention.
00:19:30.220And he was describing a situation in which there was almost a lure set up at Harvard by Epstein.
00:19:39.140Harvard kind of facilitated meetings between Epstein and many, many key professors, especially in mathematics and in the sciences, computational science, psychiatry, consciousness.
00:19:52.920And also gave Epstein an office in an institute, a mathematics institute that Epstein helped to fund.
00:20:04.600And Eric Weinstein was asking the question on his podcast, why did Epstein know about my work?
00:20:11.520Who sent him to essentially follow me?
00:20:15.560The other thing that Weinstein brought up, I knew to be true, which was kind of larger than just Harvard.
00:20:25.440And what I know to be true, and so listening to Eric Weinstein felt very familiar and recognizable to me, very important.
00:20:33.040Eric Weinstein was basically saying all of these leading intellectuals who were kind of caught in the Epstein web, right, innocent and guilty.
00:20:45.900But there was kind of a facilitation of contact with Epstein and all of these absolutely key intellectuals in key areas that kind of fast forward became our world in its most dystopian aspect.
00:21:01.600They were kind of gathered together in multiple venues.
00:21:07.520One of these venues was Harvard, as I mentioned.
00:21:10.700One of them was my former agent, John Brockman.
00:21:14.300And John Brockman has been my agent, you know, my whole career until 2019.
00:21:19.740He's also the agent of many luminaries in the science world.
00:21:25.140And he convened something called Edge.org, which was a very kind of elevated platform in which he had all of these leading lights ask each other questions, address philosophical issues.
00:21:40.700Pretty exciting, you know, very energetic intellectual community.
00:21:46.080And this larger community included people like the Harvard math professor Martin Nowak, you know, distinguished people, the cognitive scientist Daniel Dennett, Richard Dawkins, the evolutionary scientist, the anthropologist Mary Catherine Bateson, theoretical physicist Murray Gell-Mann, Elaine Pagels, the Gnostic Gospel scholar.
00:22:09.820So it was these extraordinary intellectuals.
00:22:13.840Well, no one knew, at least no one I knew, knew that Epstein was funding this foundation.
00:22:22.140So that's really interesting because, again, the people they were tapping became the direction that science and culture took in the subsequent 15 years.
00:22:35.780I mean, really what your contributor who talks about transhumanism would really recognize.
00:22:41.660Now, that in itself wouldn't be so huge, except Eric Weinstein pointed out that in his view, Epstein, I can't assess this, I have no idea.
00:22:52.220In Eric Weinstein's view, Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset and that what Epstein was doing along with or in alliance, a construct, as Eric Weinstein put it, the kind of air essentially of Robert Maxwell's having bought Pergamon Press, which was the major science imprint, which then was bought by Elsevier, which is now the major science imprint.
00:23:19.900And a leading manufacturer of the COVID, et cetera, vaccine narrative.
00:23:24.640What Eric Weinstein claimed, and it sounded very right to me, is that Epstein, in addition to everything else we know about, right, that Epstein was steering science, right, directing and steering and gatekeeping science or this construct, as Eric Weinstein put it, of Epstein and whoever was running him.
00:23:52.040And we know that he was funding many of these people.
00:23:55.160In about 2010, John Brockman began to host really renowned dinners called initially Millionaire's Dinners and then Billionaire's Dinners.
00:24:04.760He did this sometimes in concert with Ted, the TED conference, and what he did there was he brought together these intellectuals in computational science, in pre-AI, in evolutionary biology, in genomics, together with the emperors and empresses of the tech world of Silicon Valley.
00:24:29.640So then, like one example, in 2010, it's kind of amazing.
00:24:34.700In one room, this entity funded by Epstein convened Amazon's Jeff Bezos, then Google's Marissa Mayer, Craig Venter, who sequenced the human genome, Susan Wojcicki, who later was CEO of YouTube, Nathan Mirvold, former CTO of Microsoft, who then founded Intellectual Ventures,
00:24:56.800which is, of course, the ground zero of funding and investment in Silicon Valley.
00:25:02.160Interestingly, the inventor of the PCR test, Kerry Mullis, I have no idea what to make of that.
00:25:07.100And then year after year, you know, Ariana Huffington, later Sergey Brin, the co-founder of Google, and the co-founder of Microsoft, Paul Allen, and Tony Fidel, the father of the iPod.
00:25:21.620But, well, so there was this kind of joy.
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00:25:33.700People should know that John Brockman is an institution in and of himself, one of the major, I would say, institutions in not just science,
00:25:42.960but the writing of science and technology and making sure it gets out, disseminated out to the populace.
00:27:07.860Naomi Worf, Jane Zirkle on the other side.
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00:32:37.360He basically, through Brockman and Harvard, these are – Brockman is at the equivalent of Harvard as far as brands go, and particularly in science and technology, he's considered to not have a peer.
00:32:50.580Also, Pergamon Press, the other presses that Maxwell owned, et cetera.
00:32:56.500What do you mean, though, by you believe for the intelligence services or the deep state or the globalist that he had his hand in guiding science and technology, ma'am?
00:33:13.280I have no knowledge of what Jeffrey Epstein was.
00:33:17.560But I think what Eric Weinstein is saying is incredibly persuasive because what he's saying is Epstein – whoever was running Epstein – and, you know, Epstein was obviously bigger than just a financier, right?
00:33:32.360There's – like something was running Epstein just in terms of the air miles and the money, and, you know, it's just bigger than any one individual could be.
00:33:40.640One goal is not just the story that we know about, which is a horrible, horrible story about, you know, politicians and retail clothing manufacturers abusing girls.
00:33:54.300There's an additional kind of dual-use story, which is about steering science.
00:33:59.160And if you look at the – and I think Eric Weinstein is right – and if you look at the last 15 years, the direction of these scientists that were tapped by Epstein and Harvard, essentially, into this network and Brockman and the direction of big tech are the same direction, right?
00:34:20.060And I don't know if – you know, I don't know where that's coming from, but I think those are the important questions we need to ask.
00:34:25.800Like, this is the dystopia we are in now, the surveillance state, transhumanism, you know, constant monitoring, central bank digital currency, you know, the focus on Neuralink, you know, the reading, trying to get into people's brains and bodies.
00:34:42.900These were the people who were identified by Epstein and whoever was running Epstein.
00:34:48.020So where I'm going with this, I think my essay is a very sympathetic one toward President Trump.
00:34:52.820I'm, you know, I was raped as a child.
00:34:55.340I want nothing more than justice for those – all of those victims.
00:34:59.260I want nothing more than transparency.
00:35:01.420But my reading between the lines and understanding what I think Eric Weinstein is trying to say leads me to conclude that President Trump is in a really impossible position because, A, there are innocent as well as guilty – this is my conclusion, my judgment – innocent as well as guilty,
00:35:19.020A, there are major scientists probably in those unreleased records, innocent as well as guilty, and B, there are probably innocent as well as guilty major technologists in those records.
00:35:33.640I mean, we know some of them are in those records.
00:35:36.160And I have to note that the major technologists, the Silicon Valley guys, are critical to this administration.
00:35:44.040So my guess is that there – I have no knowledge, no one's leaking, no insider, anything.
00:35:49.560Just a guess from being, A, a former political consultant, but also, B, in this community, right?
00:35:55.200My guess is that there are people, innocent and guilty, we can't possibly know, but it was a network that swept up all these people putting pressure on President Trump to not release it because all these, you know, all these technologists, all of these scientists were swept up into kind of a – I don't know what to call it – more than a honey trap, right?
00:36:18.200I mean, when Harvard did a report on contacts of staff of professors with Epstein, Harvard was saying they didn't just take his money, they accepted his invitations, they went to his place in New Mexico, they went on his plane, they went to his island.
00:36:35.720Well, these are, you know, some of them may have done horrible things.
00:36:41.420I'm not exonerating anyone, we have no idea.
00:36:44.280But some of them are likely to have been nerdy people targeted, essentially, and this is what I'm hearing Eric Weinstein saying, by this operation, swept up into it and compromised so that innocent or guilty, they are, you know, in a snapshot of contact with Epstein that could destroy them.
00:37:04.700You know, whatever they did or didn't do.
00:37:07.020So that's what I just think people should be aware of when they're thinking about this very distressing situation.
00:37:16.800So are you saying that you agree that the records shouldn't be turned over or do you think some mechanism ought to be worked out that the records are turned over?
00:37:26.040I'm not saying either of those things.
00:37:28.360Look, I always want transparency and let's not forget that we have the victims right there.
00:37:34.700You know, they can, they should be supported.
00:37:49.860I'm saying that there could be something much bigger than we realize here, including a national security problem.
00:37:57.360Uh, and that we, my, my trust is always in citizens.
00:38:02.140And so I think citizens should just be aware of the larger context, be aware that they're innocent as well as guilty people, probably very likely in those records.
00:38:13.240Be aware that there was a weird, you know, targeting of leading lights of American science, um, as well as a targeting of technologists.
00:38:23.680And that created a, a synthesis, which is everything we live in now.
00:38:29.000Um, and you know, that's as, that's as far as I can go.
00:38:33.280I mean, obviously I think what's really interesting is what Alan Dershowitz said, who was formerly Trump's lawyer and Epstein's lawyer.
00:38:40.520And Dershowitz gave an interview in which basically he was saying, um, really what Pam Bondi should do is put pressure on the New York courts to release the list.
00:38:49.180And again, as a former political consultant, I get what he's doing, the blowback, what I'm saying is the blowback from the Trump administration releasing whatever lists there are.
00:39:00.180And no doubt there are voluminous lists of all kinds is going to be so catastrophic for this administration because his, you know, funders, sponsors, supporters, uh, the most powerful network in the world is probably swept up in this innocent and guilty.
00:39:17.280Um, as well as some of the leading scientists of the world.
00:39:21.040So, uh, that's what, where I want to leave it, you know, and obviously it would be good if the New York courts released everything with us being mindful.
00:39:30.180Well, I mean, you got to approach, you, you, you have, you have to approach the New York courts, the courts, you have to approach the federal court to, uh, release all the sealed evidence, unseal the documents.
00:40:41.480And Jane's going to join us tomorrow, the great calamity, Jane Zirkle.
00:40:45.660Uh, we're going to play, I think it's important today to end and to actually play Peter's entire speech on the one year anniversary of it at the Republican National Committee.
00:40:55.660Because here's the Republican National Convention.
00:41:00.280It could be ripped from today's headlines.
00:41:02.340You just heard Naomi talk about all these different networks and science and technology and all these prominent people and the driving of technology or science in a certain way.
00:41:14.380There's supposed to be a massive declassification of some material, supposed to be today, maybe tomorrow.
00:41:19.580But right now, until they identify a special counsel to work on that part of it, let alone the Epstein, we're making very little headway.
00:41:27.300So we're going to play as an entirety one year ago today, almost at this moment, Peter Navarro's speech to the Republican National Convention on the day that he left a federal prison, which was unprecedented.
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