Bannon's War Room - July 18, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 811： Mask Mandate Trial Verdict Stuns Legal Expert


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In this episode of War Room, host Steve fills in for J.J. Zirkle filling in for host J.P. as they discuss a recent incident involving a man wearing a mask observing an election in Washington County, Washington.

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00:00:00.000 Hello sir, what's your name? Tim Hazelow. Good to meet you. Good to meet you. We've
00:00:09.120 met before. Tell me what's going on here. I'm just observing my civil rights as the
00:00:14.820 observer. But as I know they made a policy that you wear a mask. Which the RCW doesn't give them
00:00:20.880 the authority to do so. That's still a policy that's been set. And they've made that very
00:00:26.700 clear to you. Are you guys going to cite me for being here? I'm going to sit here and
00:00:32.560 watch the balloting like they're saying. I'm going to sit here and watch the balloting.
00:00:37.360 No, no. Okay. You need to leave. Are you going to write me a citation? If I need to, then let's go.
00:00:48.740 I'm going to come back in if I don't get some type of written thing saying that I have to leave.
00:00:54.900 Let's go. Are you going to give me something in writing? Let's go. That's the question.
00:01:00.580 Let's go. Are you going to give me something in writing? Sir. I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
00:01:07.200 Okay. I'm going to escort you out of here right now. Okay. Okay. And then what? And then we'll decide.
00:01:14.700 We can talk in the hallway before we go outside. And then I'll decide if I'm going to actually leave
00:01:19.780 the building or not. Okay. Let's go. Excuse me. Come on. Come on. I know who you are. Come on.
00:01:34.600 Yeah, I know who you are. Good. Go on this one. To the right.
00:01:40.960 No, we'll talk about it because if I need to go back in, I want to go back in.
00:01:43.900 To the right, sir. You really want to enforce this rule that you know they have the authority
00:01:49.880 not to do? I don't know that. I know that you're being disorderly right now.
00:01:54.860 I'm exercising my rights. Is it not my right to observe this election?
00:01:59.480 If you go and do that, if you follow the policies that are set by the auditor, yes, you can do that.
00:02:05.880 That is not true. I've already talked to multiple lawyers and they've all told me the same thing.
00:02:10.640 Go in and exercise your right to observe the election. Okay. I'm the chairman of the party.
00:02:16.180 Not only am I authorized because of the First Amendment and because I'm supposed to be here
00:02:20.580 to exercise my rights, I'm also obligated to observe based on my position.
00:02:26.760 So I'm obligated to do this. You've been given the opportunity to observe
00:02:29.440 and you're not following the policies set by the auditor.
00:02:34.180 Hmm.
00:02:34.420 It seems pretty interesting to me that they can arbitrarily set a rule that has zero...
00:02:41.380 I don't have anything to do with setting the rules.
00:02:43.600 I know. I know.
00:02:43.940 I have to do with doing what they've asked me to do.
00:02:47.580 Right. And they're saying I'm trespassing because I'm not following the rules.
00:02:51.400 And that could be where we're heading.
00:02:54.640 Well, I need a citation of some kind.
00:02:56.240 Okay. Well, then let's go out and we'll get that citation for you.
00:02:58.880 Okay.
00:02:59.500 Let's go.
00:03:09.080 You should have seen me on the north end today.
00:03:14.320 Oh, I bet.
00:03:14.940 I almost got hit by a Harris Waltz sign driving down the highway.
00:03:18.140 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:03:25.620 Pray for our enemies.
00:03:27.580 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:03:30.820 You're just not going to free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:03:35.100 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:03:37.020 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:03:38.440 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:03:40.200 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:03:42.400 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:03:45.800 Mega media.
00:03:46.720 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:03:52.660 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:03:56.340 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:02.760 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:04:11.520 Welcome to War Room Battleground.
00:04:13.460 My name is Jane Zirkle, filling in for Steve Bannon.
00:04:16.200 And what you just saw there was body camera footage from a mask mandate dispute up in Island County, Washington, involving the GOP chairman there, Tim Hazelow.
00:04:26.580 Tim and his lawyer, Angus Lee, join me now.
00:04:29.960 Now, Tim, last time we spoke, you were headed into trial.
00:04:33.500 The trial has since concluded.
00:04:35.100 But give us a refresher of what took place that day in Island County, Washington, when you were observing the votes there.
00:04:43.360 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:43.760 Well, first of all, let me add to this caveat that the body cam adds 30 pounds.
00:04:48.120 And I had orange hair because I had dressed as Donald Trump at a Halloween party the day before.
00:04:52.020 So I hadn't had a chance to cut the hair.
00:04:54.480 But basically, you know, I went in there with the intention of quietly observing the elections, which is what we're supposed to be doing.
00:05:05.200 And I feel like I'm more obligated than some because of my position.
00:05:08.460 So I went in there to watch the elections.
00:05:13.280 There had been a mask mandate on and off since August earlier in the year.
00:05:18.700 And so one day it's on, one day it's off.
00:05:20.640 In August, we complained.
00:05:22.220 They took it down.
00:05:23.660 We watched without masks on.
00:05:26.020 The week before, we complained about this fictitious mask mandate that we don't believe they have the authority to put in place.
00:05:32.480 I'm sure Angus could talk about that a little more, but we've complained about it.
00:05:37.480 And we never even heard a word back from the auditor.
00:05:39.800 Even after we legally served them with a cease and desist letter, we never heard a word back.
00:05:44.000 So I went in on Monday.
00:05:46.480 I figured it's on and off.
00:05:47.900 It's loosely, it's a loose law at best.
00:05:51.220 And I just sat down and I signed in, mind you, signed the rules that said nothing about mask mandates on the written rules.
00:05:58.480 And we talked about that before I signed in, went in, sat down, and then shortly thereafter, they told me I had to wear a mask.
00:06:05.300 I said, I don't think so.
00:06:06.700 And then the sheriff came and you saw the rest of it.
00:06:09.080 That's pretty much how it laid out.
00:06:10.720 What you didn't see, though, is that there's another body cam video afterwards where the sheriff and I were talking and we shook hands.
00:06:16.740 Everything was cordial.
00:06:17.880 And he escorted me back to the front of the building to sign back out again because I had signed in.
00:06:23.540 I had legal authority to be there.
00:06:25.360 And so he escorted me up front, and he testified to that fact in the trial as well.
00:06:32.600 So that's kind of the 411, the short version of that day.
00:06:37.580 So you were given a citation for disorderly conduct, and then the prosecutor, Greg Banks, gets involved, saying that if you don't agree to a plea deal on that,
00:06:47.100 he is going to upgrade the charges to felony unauthorized access to a voting center and misdemeanor trespassing.
00:06:55.040 Angus, if you could jump in here and explain, in your professional opinion, is this typically how something of this nature would go,
00:07:03.100 that Tim would be given an ultimatum like this, where he's then facing a few days in jail for this disorderly conduct citation that he wasn't even arrested for?
00:07:12.480 The prosecutor to take baseless misdemeanor charges and elevate them to even more baseless felony charges.
00:07:24.220 And that's exactly what happened here.
00:07:26.080 And it creates some real concern in my mind because when you watch the video,
00:07:31.760 the original charge of disorderly conduct clearly was without any basis in fact or law.
00:07:36.840 In fact, that charge was eventually dismissed.
00:07:41.200 But to elevate it to a felony when Washington state law is explicit that the voting stations are observable by county party representatives.
00:07:54.980 In fact, the auditor is required to allow someone like him to make those observations.
00:07:59.920 It's part of our voter integrity process here in Washington.
00:08:03.720 So it's very shocking that the prosecutor would take a non-appropriate misdemeanor charge
00:08:10.000 and then, because he didn't get what he wanted, to add a felony that has no basis in fact or law either.
00:08:18.840 Why do you think Greg Banks made this such a lawfare campaign against your client?
00:08:25.600 Well, unfortunately, he has become very politically motivated and biased against conservatives and Trump supporters.
00:08:38.200 Anyone who's spent any time looking at his Facebook feed can see that he has an extreme and pronounced animus
00:08:45.000 towards anyone in the Republican Party or supports President Trump.
00:08:49.460 So, you know, I can't peer into his mind, but what I can do is peer into his Facebook page,
00:08:57.800 which evidences a large amount of animus towards people like my client.
00:09:04.100 So, Tim, you ultimately did fight this.
00:09:06.700 You brought it all the way to a jury trial, which took place last week.
00:09:10.200 Give us the rundown of the trial, particularly when it comes to the timeline,
00:09:13.800 because what shocked me was how quickly this was decided.
00:09:18.260 Yeah, I mean, it kind of shocked me, too.
00:09:22.460 So day one was jury selection.
00:09:25.420 Day two was all witnesses.
00:09:27.700 Day three was closing statements and jury deliberation or jury rules and then deliberation.
00:09:35.840 So day two was really kind of where it was at.
00:09:38.100 To me, by the first few hours of day two, any hope that I had of getting an innocent verdict out of these people had faded
00:09:49.020 because the rules of the court, Mr. Banks had put in some motions to prevent us from discussing certain items.
00:09:58.460 And those items where we couldn't discuss Mr. Banks's political bias, which is the reason why we're here anyway, in my opinion.
00:10:07.000 We couldn't discuss whether other people were wearing masks or not wearing masks, which there's lucky for luckily for us.
00:10:14.160 One of the local news teams went up there and did a video shoot a few days before I went in the room without a mask on.
00:10:23.500 And they just happened to catch one of the poll workers in their working, counting ballots, not wearing a mask, amongst other people not wearing masks.
00:10:31.640 So we weren't allowed to talk about that.
00:10:34.040 We weren't allowed to talk about the legality of the mask mandate itself.
00:10:37.820 We weren't even allowed to discuss it.
00:10:39.620 And so pretty much everything that we wanted to argue as a defense was kind of swept out from under our feet.
00:10:47.580 And the judge, and I don't know Judge Wilson from any other judge.
00:10:51.720 I mean, this is the first time I've ever dealt with anything like this, right?
00:10:54.540 He approved all of Banks's motions to, I don't know what the legal term is, repress or not allow that evidence to be put forward.
00:11:05.000 Out of all the evidence that we tried to submit, I think we had one piece of evidence accepted.
00:11:11.600 And that was the actual written rule form that I had to sign to get in the building, which, mind you, said nothing about wearing a mask on it.
00:11:18.060 Yeah, talk to me a little bit more about that, because I know there was some dispute about the auditor's authority here.
00:11:28.420 Yeah, I think Angus is probably better suited to talk about that than I am.
00:11:33.080 Yeah, take it away, please.
00:11:35.020 Sure.
00:11:35.480 So today we are filing a motion to dismiss the case, set aside the verdict, and or for a new trial.
00:11:41.900 And if the judge doesn't grant those, we will be appealing the conviction.
00:11:48.340 One of the big problems in this case is the auditor simply does not have authority to impose a mask mandate in 2024.
00:11:58.640 One thing for people to keep in mind is that this case is about the 2024 election.
00:12:04.680 When you hear about a mask mandate order, you might think it was 2022 or 2021.
00:12:10.000 No, in 2024, with no authority from any health official, no health advisories, no outbreaks, the auditor unilaterally and without lawful authority imposed this order,
00:12:25.460 didn't follow any mandatory procedures under state law, and really violated the Constitution.
00:12:31.960 And one of the problems in this case, and the reason there was a conviction, is because not only was the jury not advised what the law was,
00:12:44.100 they were actually misadvised on the law.
00:12:47.840 The court actually entered a jury instruction that the auditor had authority to issue this order.
00:12:56.260 That's simply not accurate.
00:12:58.160 And one of the things that happened during jury deliberation was the jury made specific requests to the judge to show them portions of Washington state law, which the judge declined to do.
00:13:10.900 So you had a jury who was deliberating this case and saying,
00:13:14.000 hey, judge, we'd like to see the specific law at issue here.
00:13:18.760 And the judge said no.
00:13:20.060 Had the judge actually shown the law to them or advised them on the law correctly, there would not have been a conviction and certainly cannot be a conviction when the auditor did not have any constitutional authority to effectively create felony law at a whim in this case.
00:13:39.060 So talk to me a little bit about the verdict here.
00:13:42.520 What was the basis for the jury's decision ultimately?
00:13:46.100 You know, that's a good question.
00:13:51.060 I think the basis for the jury's ultimate decision was lack of proper instruction and lack of a defense.
00:14:03.080 I mean, basically, we were not allowed to present a defense at all.
00:14:06.180 I'll give you kind of an example.
00:14:07.300 I was on the stand and my attorney asked me, had I ever even heard of unauthorized access to a polling place, which I hadn't at that point in time.
00:14:16.580 And before I could even reply to that simple question, Mr. Banks had objected to the question and the judge had upheld the objection.
00:14:25.240 I couldn't even answer that question.
00:14:26.360 So the simplest of defenses that we were trying to put forward were just being shut down left and right.
00:14:34.060 And, yeah, I just kind of knew at that point in time, I could feel it sinking in my chest that I was going to be found guilty of this thing.
00:14:41.900 And honestly, if you look at the law itself, it doesn't even apply in the situation we're in, let alone the fact that the instructions were given in our opinion incorrectly.
00:14:53.460 That's right.
00:14:55.680 Yeah.
00:14:56.580 I mean, a jury has a difficult job in any case.
00:15:02.000 That job becomes even more difficult when they are given improper instructions on the law.
00:15:08.140 For those out there at home who have never been on a jury, one of the things that happens in a jury trial is the jury comes in, they get selected, they sit there and they listen to all the evidence.
00:15:20.200 And they try and determine what evidence is relevant at the end of the case when the judge tells them, now that you've sat through all the evidence, here is what I'm telling you the law is.
00:15:32.020 Now, if the judge advises the jury incorrectly on the law, then you will have an incorrect verdict.
00:15:40.420 And what happened here is the jury sat through a trial where they were not given all the information.
00:15:46.180 They did not get all the evidence that exists in real life because of some of the rulings that were made.
00:15:52.740 And then the jury was given improper instructions on the law.
00:15:56.220 And any time you play a game with the wrong rules, you're going to get the wrong result.
00:16:01.660 And that's exactly what happened here.
00:16:03.460 It's part of the reason we're filing for a motion to dismiss today.
00:16:08.160 In your view, Tim, have you been the victim of a witch hunt?
00:16:15.380 You know, let me be real careful about how I answer that.
00:16:19.060 Let's think about it, though, and let the viewers make their own choice on this.
00:16:22.220 I've been cited for disorderly conduct initially.
00:16:27.200 For some reason, the highest level prosecutor, the elected official in Island County, decided to take it upon himself to prosecute that charge, the lowest level criminal charge a person can be charged with.
00:16:40.860 For some reason, he came down to prosecute that charge.
00:16:43.260 When I pled innocent to that charge, first of all, the judge in the district court, he was going to release it because he didn't believe there was any misconduct.
00:16:53.220 And then the prosecuting attorney's office inflated some things.
00:16:57.600 And he said, OK, well, we've got to move it forward.
00:16:59.520 So I pled innocent.
00:17:00.380 And then I got that letter stating that if I don't plead guilty, that he was going to add another charge, the trespassing, criminal trespassing.
00:17:08.560 And if I didn't plead guilty and take his punishment, that all further negotiations were off the table, period.
00:17:15.180 And he was going to charge me with a felony.
00:17:17.180 And I don't know if you can tell.
00:17:18.620 I'm a former military guy.
00:17:19.920 I got some lapel pins and a hat.
00:17:22.460 And so you can imagine what my response to him was.
00:17:25.560 Suffice it to say, it wasn't guilty.
00:17:27.060 Right.
00:17:28.400 And then just a couple of days later, we got the subpoenas or the summons to show.
00:17:33.500 And I actually had to go get booked into jail, get my picture taken in my fingerprints.
00:17:37.280 I'm thinking this is this is freaking ludicrous.
00:17:40.280 And so then I saw these Facebook posts and people started sending me the things that banks did because I never really paid attention to this guy in the past.
00:17:47.480 I've never been in any trouble.
00:17:49.120 Got a top secret clearance for 35, 38 years of my life.
00:17:54.000 I'm probably about as clean as you can get.
00:17:57.060 And I started seeing these Facebook posts about conservatives should die of COVID or I'm not.
00:18:02.980 I sent you some of the pictures.
00:18:04.120 You can put them up if you want.
00:18:05.420 Yeah.
00:18:05.740 But it was just ludicrous.
00:18:08.580 And Tim, Tim, we're running out of time.
00:18:10.920 I want to get your social media.
00:18:13.020 Where can people go follow you and support you as you take this case to the next level?
00:18:17.700 Yeah, if you go to YouTube, it's a TNTT, Truth Not Trash with Tim.
00:18:24.080 And then I also have a GoFundMe page.
00:18:27.800 So if you go to GoFundMe, let me get you the code for that real quick.
00:18:31.680 It's G-D-X-E-F. 1.00
00:18:37.540 So GoFundMe.com slash G-D-X-E-F. 0.99
00:18:43.040 If you look at those two things, you'll pretty much get most of everything.
00:18:46.600 I try to put a video up every couple of days about what's going on.
00:18:49.700 And I'm going to post your video up there as soon as you guys get it out there.
00:18:53.700 But we need all the help you can get.
00:18:55.780 We need all the support you can get.
00:18:56.960 And if this can happen to a small guy like me that's just trying to observe elections,
00:19:01.540 you know, it can happen to anybody.
00:19:03.280 What's the old Marxist saying, right?
00:19:04.920 Show me the man and I'll show you the crime.
00:19:07.480 And so these prosecutors are off the hook.
00:19:10.660 Tim, Angus, thank you so much for your time.
00:19:13.740 And we look forward to getting an update soon.
00:19:17.480 Thank you for having us.
00:19:19.020 Thanks for having us.
00:19:19.780 I want to bring in Marlee Hornick.
00:19:23.120 Marlee, what is your reaction to what we just heard there?
00:19:27.620 Well, I have to say, I'm not surprised.
00:19:30.580 If you watch the trial of Tina Peters, you can see that election officials and when it
00:19:35.540 comes to elections anywhere across the country and prosecutors have the upper hand here, you
00:19:40.940 know, they just want the American people to accept the reality that our election systems
00:19:45.960 are like the Titanic.
00:19:47.440 They could never fail.
00:19:48.900 There's nothing wrong, nothing to see here.
00:19:51.260 And they'll go, you know, on the war path against anybody who dissents, even someone who's
00:19:56.540 actually following the law and a whistleblower like Tina Peters. 0.70
00:20:00.960 Meanwhile, the American people, I think we're not stupid.
00:20:03.940 We know this ship has already hit the iceberg.
00:20:05.860 And that's where Unite for Freedom really comes in, because our evidence, our already gathered
00:20:13.000 evidence across 30 states in the United States of America shows that these election systems
00:20:18.180 are broken.
00:20:20.140 They are failing us miserably.
00:20:22.280 And we have to get this under control before 2026.
00:20:26.040 We have to keep the America First agenda going.
00:20:29.780 And this is number one priority.
00:20:32.800 Next week, United Sovereign Americans has a big event coming up.
00:20:37.500 Give us a little preview of that.
00:20:39.840 Sure.
00:20:40.460 We're going to be at the National Press Club on Tuesday, Tuesday afternoon at one o'clock
00:20:44.540 Eastern.
00:20:45.020 We're going to be announcing a number of new lawsuits, and one of them is actually in the
00:20:50.520 state of Colorado.
00:20:52.140 The same officials, the Secretary of State Jenna Griswold and the Attorney General who prosecuted
00:20:58.080 Tina Peters and put this gold star mom in prison for doing her job and serving the American 1.00
00:21:03.400 people, they are going to be filed against again in Colorado by USA with a lawsuit showing
00:21:09.700 that they have totally failed to validate and verify the identity of their voters before
00:21:16.560 counting their votes.
00:21:18.640 So this is really a very basic approach to making arguments that they're breaking the
00:21:25.240 law left and right.
00:21:26.300 They're counting tens of thousands of votes from unverified registrants that we have studied
00:21:32.580 deeply.
00:21:33.320 We have documentation on this.
00:21:34.940 We've worked on this with attorneys, private investigators.
00:21:37.380 This is a big research project, and that's what they're going to be faced with on Monday.
00:21:43.080 So basically, the people who are totally failing to protect the civil rights of Colorado voters
00:21:51.580 and went on the warpath against Tina Peters, they're going to finally be facing a reckoning
00:21:57.200 here.
00:21:58.760 Marlee, where can people go and follow you and get the latest from the event?
00:22:02.240 Please go to unite4freedom.com, unite4freedom.com to support our forensic reports.
00:22:12.340 We're the only organization that's actually measuring non-citizen voting on a forensic
00:22:17.560 basis using qualified professionals to produce these reports.
00:22:21.720 We have them already for multiple states.
00:22:23.740 Maybe we have your state.
00:22:25.440 Come over to unite4freedom.com.
00:22:28.020 Give us a, send us a message and send us some support.
00:22:31.020 We're going to keep working on this.
00:22:32.360 We're going to get it solved.
00:22:33.420 We're also on X at United S American.
00:22:39.280 Wonderful.
00:22:39.920 Thank you so much.
00:22:41.800 Thank you.
00:22:43.360 I'm joined by Callie Cooper.
00:22:45.580 Callie is the communications director over at the Republican Study Committee.
00:22:49.560 Callie, you unleashed MAGA at the U.S. House of Representatives for this new media event
00:22:55.020 that I had the pleasure of attending.
00:22:56.840 It is generating quite the buzz online.
00:22:59.240 Tell me about it, and tell me why you first were motivated to hold this in the first place.
00:23:05.180 Yeah, absolutely.
00:23:06.080 And thank you so much for having me on.
00:23:07.920 It was really just such an honor to host 33 creators, influencers, and conservative media
00:23:13.440 personalities on Capitol Hill to really highlight all of the victories that Republicans have
00:23:17.660 secured in the first six months of Congress.
00:23:21.380 We're really delivering on the mandate for the American people.
00:23:24.440 And I think this was an opportunity for lawmakers to really break it down on what we're working
00:23:28.380 on here in more of a, you know, informal, conversational way and being able to kind of
00:23:35.620 explain, like, what is the one big, beautiful bill?
00:23:37.800 What are all of the provisions that went into it?
00:23:40.220 The rescissions bill last night, we kind of previewed that with you all as well.
00:23:43.800 But the reason that we hosted it was so that we could give people not only creators and
00:23:49.140 influencers, but outlets as well who aren't credentialed necessarily by Capitol Hill to
00:23:52.760 be able to have unfettered access to lawmakers and be able to highlight all that we do here
00:23:58.360 in Congress.
00:23:59.940 Yeah, I actually want to ask you specifically about the rescissions bill.
00:24:03.360 Do you think that this event played a role in putting some pressure on that front?
00:24:09.080 I would definitely say so.
00:24:11.840 I think we did a lot of those conversations preemptively because we really wanted to highlight,
00:24:16.940 you know, keeping the House's bill intact as it was being deliberated in the Senate.
00:24:21.920 And obviously, with the passage overnight, we are very pleased with what came back and what
00:24:26.600 is going to President Trump's desk at 2.30 today.
00:24:29.480 But yeah, I do think it played a role definitely.
00:24:31.760 And I think it was also a really great opportunity for our members to be able to kind of highlight
00:24:37.280 what is a rescissions package, you know, it is codifying those doge cuts that we promised
00:24:42.040 the American people and slashing waste, fraud and abuse and government spending and being
00:24:47.120 able to also finally cut funding from woke propaganda outlets like NPR and PBS.
00:24:54.440 I got so many great interviews that day.
00:24:57.140 I learned so much from the reps.
00:24:58.820 I mean, these pieces of legislation, they're so massive and complex that it's great to just
00:25:02.900 get some straightforward transparency.
00:25:04.920 And it was super nice, too, because I only actually had one interview set in stone scheduled
00:25:09.720 and the rest were just reps coming up and saying, hey, I want to talk to the War Room
00:25:14.080 Posse.
00:25:14.620 So we are actually going to air those interviews after the break.
00:25:18.340 And so just know that the reps that I was speaking to, they wanted to get feedback from
00:25:22.780 specifically the War Room Posse.
00:25:24.680 But I want to ask you, what has been the feedback so far that you have gotten from the online
00:25:29.520 community, whether it be specifically from the reps that attended in their districts or just
00:25:34.400 people in general who have said, oh, like, I didn't know.
00:25:36.860 I didn't know this was in the one big, beautiful bill.
00:25:39.820 Yeah, we've received thousands and thousands of comments, DMs, emails, et cetera, just positively
00:25:45.780 speaking about the new media row that we hosted.
00:25:48.600 And it was really just such a cool opportunity for us to be able to be at the forefront of kind
00:25:53.560 of a communications revolution here on Capitol Hill.
00:25:55.940 But the positive and overwhelming feedback is that, wow, this is a really great opportunity
00:26:00.820 for members to kind of sit down and highlight all of their own individual legislative pushes
00:26:05.160 that they've done, but also at a bigger picture, all the RSC has done, especially as it relates
00:26:09.940 to the one big, beautiful bill, to push those conservative provisions, to push those conservative
00:26:14.520 policies within it and be able to really deliver on that mandate, like I said, for the American
00:26:19.220 people.
00:26:19.600 I mean, on November 5th, overwhelmingly, Americans wanted to challenge the status quo and reelected
00:26:25.020 Callie, Callie, we're short for time.
00:26:26.320 Where can the people go follow you?
00:26:28.440 Yeah, no, of course.
00:26:30.260 They can follow us at Republican Study on X, Rumble, Instagram, and Facebook.
00:26:35.520 Wonderful, Callie.
00:26:36.420 Thank you so much.
00:26:37.660 And those interviews right after the break, be sure to check them out.
00:26:40.880 We have some War Room favorites coming up.
00:26:42.780 We have Nels and Warren and congressmen from all over this great country who are looking
00:26:47.620 specifically to talk to the War Room posse.
00:26:50.220 Stay tuned.
00:26:51.180 You can follow me at Jane Zirkle on Instagram, Getter, Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook to take
00:26:56.620 a look at the ones that have already aired.
00:26:58.140 After the break.
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00:31:02.640 President Trump's base of working-class Americans, how does a big, beautiful bill serve them?
00:31:16.380 Oh, this is a huge win for working-class Americans, right?
00:31:19.820 So you're making the Trump tax cuts permit, which benefits middle-class firms.
00:31:26.080 You're adding on to that no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and some benefits for seniors
00:31:31.760 who have been suffering through inflation, right?
00:31:34.760 And so I think this is a huge win.
00:31:38.340 This is absolutely a huge win for the middle class.
00:31:41.520 No tax on tips was a huge campaign promise that really energized the base.
00:31:45.880 How does this rollout work with the big, beautiful bill?
00:31:49.880 Yeah, I think that the fact that Trump immediately signed it, which I thought was great on July 4th,
00:31:57.760 we will, I think that the good news is we passed this bill early enough that the American people will start seeing the benefits
00:32:05.800 on their taxes either immediately or when they start their taxes immediately.
00:32:12.520 Now, there is a big focus on the bill regarding defense and military.
00:32:16.660 How does this specifically benefit veterans, though?
00:32:19.340 Yeah, so I think I'd have to look at the language.
00:32:26.780 There was some language that benefited veterans, particularly with the VA.
00:32:31.820 But at the end of the day, a strong military is good for security and for Western values.
00:32:38.600 I would like to see us actually, I think that I'm one of the people that would support reductions
00:32:47.020 and finance savings and sending Doge into the Department of Defense
00:32:52.320 because we all know there's a lot of money that we could find in savings.
00:32:56.500 We were spending a trillion dollars a year,
00:32:59.280 and I think that it's important that we have the best military in the planet.
00:33:03.180 I just also think there's probably some ways that we can identify.
00:33:08.940 Looking towards American innovation, particularly when it comes to infrastructure and manufacturing,
00:33:15.080 how does the big news bill work to increase being made in America, president Trump, agenda model?
00:33:21.420 Yeah, there's a lot of provisions, some of it related to giving the research and development deductions
00:33:29.280 and just letting manufacturers who want to start a new manufacturing facility
00:33:34.960 or come back, re-shore back to the United States,
00:33:38.520 know that they can offset or light off the cost of construction immediately.
00:33:43.060 There's huge benefits.
00:33:45.320 And a lot of it, a lot of some of those benefits came out of conversations
00:33:48.800 from some manufacturers from my district that I was able to pull a meeting
00:33:53.240 that it was Congressman Jason Smith, the Noise and Means Committee,
00:33:56.900 to kind of pitch, to hear firsthand what manufacturers want as they look to when we shoot them.
00:34:03.660 And does that have a lot to do with peeling back regulations?
00:34:06.960 Because that is obviously a big way of business with Trump administration.
00:34:09.780 Yeah, absolutely.
00:34:11.020 A lot of the energy costs, whether it's electricity costs or fuel costs,
00:34:19.800 everything that we get has to be shipped here.
00:34:22.440 And it's the fact that, you know, this bill is going to unleash a bunch of opportunities
00:34:28.260 for oil and for natural gas.
00:34:32.180 I think it's good because at the end of the day,
00:34:34.660 the cost of energy is an underlying cost of everything.
00:34:39.840 And if we want to bring costs of things down, if we want to bring inflation down,
00:34:44.020 we need to do this.
00:34:44.920 Right, in the shipping industry, like you mentioned, the freight rail, for example,
00:34:49.720 how are those specific industries going to be empowered with this legislation?
00:34:55.340 Yeah, with the freight rail, I would have to go back and look at the language.
00:35:04.020 But in general, every business is going to see that they have fewer regulations,
00:35:11.620 any kind of review, NIFA, if they're going to add new rail lines,
00:35:19.620 all of that permitting from the EPA and from other agencies is going to be streamlined.
00:35:26.800 So what do you think the biggest win for Republicans is here,
00:35:29.640 and what do you think the biggest concession was with this legislation?
00:35:34.020 I think the biggest wins are that we finally are kind of getting control
00:35:38.980 of the waste within your welfare system.
00:35:44.720 We want to make sure that we have a system of base that protects the vulnerable.
00:35:48.800 But unfortunately, Joe Biden really allowed that system to be abused
00:35:52.260 and really encouraged a lot of young people to not work.
00:35:56.960 We need young people who are able to give a body to reenter the workforce.
00:36:01.840 And I think that this bill not only encourages them through reforms on the welfare system,
00:36:10.100 but also encourages them by reducing the taxes, reducing their tax burden should they decide to go.
00:36:17.120 And so it's both a carrot and a stick.
00:36:20.560 And I think that that's probably the biggest win in the bill.
00:36:24.940 The concession I wish we had not done was raise the threshold from SALT for the state and local taxes.
00:36:33.540 That really is only going to benefit New Yorkers, Californians, people in high-tax states.
00:36:39.360 And so I don't – I'm not exactly – I mean, I'm not for these.
00:36:43.140 Well, thank you so much, Congressman, for your time.
00:36:46.600 And I appreciate this event.
00:36:48.020 It's been.
00:36:48.780 Thank you.
00:36:49.400 And I just want to start off by asking you, President Trump's base is working-class America.
00:36:54.780 How does a big, beautiful bill serve them? 0.96
00:36:56.860 The big, beautiful bill does more to the health and protect and cut the taxes for the middle-class working family 0.89
00:37:02.540 than anything else we've done in history.
00:37:03.920 So doubling and permanently extending the standard deduction of $24,000 per couple,
00:37:09.860 doubling and permanently extending the child tax credit for $22,500 per child,
00:37:14.220 the elimination of tax and tips, elimination of tax and overtime is going to mean a $10,000 difference
00:37:19.300 to the average volume for a working family.
00:37:23.320 A big focus on President Trump's first term was modernization, modernization of the health care industry,
00:37:29.320 of transportation, of our infrastructure.
00:37:30.920 How does a big, beautiful bill work to support his agenda?
00:37:34.880 Well, what we did in SNAP reform and Medicaid reform, very, very common sense work requirements
00:37:43.040 for able-bodied men who are 18 to 64, requiring them to work 20 hours a week, volunteer 20 hours a week
00:37:49.920 to go back to school to receive those welfare benefits, is the biggest, most historic adjustment
00:37:56.860 we've made to the welfare programs if you're going to have a country's successful.
00:37:59.500 When you look at the big, beautiful bill in terms of innovation, what are you most excited for?
00:38:07.820 Well, I mean, the innovation that's going to come from primarily extending the $179,
00:38:16.020 accelerated depreciation, the R&D tax credits, making those provisions permanent
00:38:21.320 are going to directly lead to innovation and investment by American companies across this
00:38:25.980 community, and the biggest things we could have done to drive it there.
00:38:29.780 There's a big focus in the bill on defense and military, but how does this bill specifically
00:38:34.400 serve armed veterans?
00:38:35.260 Well, I'm not on that committee, so I don't know the specific programs in the bill.
00:38:44.880 How about defense?
00:38:46.000 Defense, thanks for being on armed services, we're investing $150 million in additional defense
00:38:52.300 of the programs like hypersonics.
00:39:02.780 Where are you at?
00:39:03.760 I was looking at the mates, and I think that's when I met you.
00:39:07.780 Some of them launched nuclear cruise missiles, reinvestment in redeveloping nuclear tripping 0.85
00:39:14.820 program, just anything that's in the cutting-edge autonomous vehicle, technology, all of those
00:39:25.160 investments that we're putting in the HR1.
00:39:33.040 Now, set the record straight when it comes to health care, because a lot of Americans
00:39:36.660 are concerned what's going on with Medicaid.
00:39:39.220 Tell us about what the big, beautiful bill does there.
00:39:41.620 Well, we didn't make any changes to Medicaid.
00:39:43.340 And really, if you go back to 2017, the reform that they did to Obamacare, the same people
00:39:50.940 who are saying it's going to lead to a loss in coverage, they projected that 20 million
00:39:55.400 Americans would lose their coverage when we got Obamacare. 0.80
00:39:58.400 I'm just trying to say a few years later, they dropped to 8 million.
00:40:01.580 Two years later, they said no impact, actually.
00:40:03.900 It led to some more people getting coverage.
00:40:06.000 When we passed the one, the beautiful bill, and we get job growth, and we get people,
00:40:13.140 10 or 13 grand new jobs.
00:40:15.060 With those new jobs, it's going to come insurance with those jobs.
00:40:19.620 You know, yeah.
00:40:20.160 It's requiring work to maintain their, their, their, their, their, their welfare.
00:40:26.160 It's going to make a big stance.
00:40:28.220 It's going to push my email out.
00:40:30.500 I'm going to work for this.
00:40:31.180 In fact, I'm going to go to my house.
00:40:32.380 And if you get that full of new medical coverage, add it to the same.
00:40:35.940 If you said we're going to lose 20 million insure policies then, to say that the Medicaid
00:40:40.420 referring was going to lose 5 million people losing their coverage means they're assuming
00:40:44.620 25 million people will choose not to work, and it's just not reality.
00:40:47.820 Most people, when given the opportunity to work, volunteer, or go back to school to maintain
00:40:52.860 their net-free coverage, will choose to do it.
00:40:55.380 It just needs a common sense.
00:40:56.600 Wonderful Congressman, remind me of your district one more time.
00:41:00.680 Indiana 8th District.
00:41:01.660 Indiana 8th District, thank you so much.
00:41:03.260 You're welcome.
00:41:03.800 Pleasure meeting you.
00:41:04.420 Thank you.
00:41:04.980 Thank you.
00:41:05.300 I'm sure your district has a lot of President Trump's base, working-class America.
00:41:09.320 Absolutely.
00:41:09.740 How does Big Beautiful Bill serve them? 1.00
00:41:11.680 Well, I'll tell you what, the One Big Beautiful Bill serves not just their families, but their
00:41:16.160 businesses, all of which are connected and helps with the faith institutions in East Texas.
00:41:21.500 We're so proud in East Texas that we're hardworking, we're tough-minded.
00:41:25.240 We've got some of the best people in the world in East Texas, in my opinion.
00:41:29.040 And what happens is we're giving them liberty.
00:41:31.060 I mean, that's what I've been talking about, is we're storing liberty to their personal
00:41:34.940 lives and to their churches and to also the businesses that they work in every day.
00:41:42.520 Because when you give more people's money back to them, and it's their money that's
00:41:46.860 more liberty for them to decide who's the group.
00:41:49.740 No Tax on Tips was a very popular campaign promise of President Trump.
00:41:53.860 How does this bill implement that?
00:41:55.840 Yeah.
00:41:56.720 Absolutely.
00:41:57.440 No Tax on Tips actually was one of the biggest things that folks talked to me about in the
00:42:01.420 months leading up to the past year.
00:42:03.080 Not just that, but we're talking about the taxes on overtime as well and reduction taxes
00:42:09.520 on seniors.
00:42:10.440 All of those helped great, hardworking people or people that have worked hard all their lives.
00:42:15.080 Because as you go through the year, you want to know, can I deduct some of this hard worth
00:42:20.420 off of my taxes, off the income, and return it back to my pocket?
00:42:24.520 And the answer now is absolutely yes.
00:42:26.980 That there is a portion of that that you're going to earn as either overtime or tips or now
00:42:32.720 with the additional $6,000 deduction for those that are of a certain age that are receiving
00:42:38.500 their Social Security benefits.
00:42:39.560 We know the effect of that is for trying more of that money back in their pockets.
00:42:45.400 They're going to spend it.
00:42:46.240 They're going to invest it.
00:42:46.960 They're going to do great things for their families.
00:42:49.760 Talk to me a little bit about investing in America.
00:42:52.200 How does the big, beautiful bill focus on American innovation, manufacturing?
00:42:56.540 Tell me about it.
00:42:57.440 Some of the big permanent provisions of the business section are important to restoring
00:43:03.200 American dominance from an economic standpoint.
00:43:06.080 When you talk about allowing for immediate expensing for R&D and immediate expensing for capital
00:43:11.900 equipment and being able to now have a manufacturing facility build itself here in America and be
00:43:19.380 able to expense 100% of that because now you're adding more production domestically, that's a
00:43:24.700 big deal for businesses.
00:43:26.000 And they want to reinvest here in our home here in America as opposed to abroad.
00:43:30.780 What we did with Bede, Yoki, and Fiddy also helps with that to restore intangible property
00:43:35.960 here in the United States.
00:43:37.560 So you see a lot of those provisions.
00:43:39.520 Section 199A, another big provision too.
00:43:42.320 Section 199A used by all these pass-through entities, more than 90% of those entities in
00:43:48.040 East Texas are pass-through entities, these businesses that are mom and car businesses, LLCs,
00:43:53.300 partnerships, just the small businesses.
00:43:55.220 They get to now have that lower effective rate in the low 20s as opposed to seeing next
00:44:00.680 year a dramatic increase to almost 43%.
00:44:03.340 That would have been untenable for these families that are working hard to build these small
00:44:06.800 businesses.
00:44:07.960 From a national security and economic perspective, how does this help compete with China? 0.65
00:44:13.080 The thing I want to start with on that is these FEOC restrictions, the foreign entity
00:44:17.400 of concern restrictions.
00:44:18.680 Well, the Biden administration, I was just amazed through the IRA how much money we were
00:44:23.480 giving away to China-related companies without regard to what it was doing to undercut our
00:44:29.720 own domestic businesses and our national security interests.
00:44:32.820 But in this bill, we fix all that.
00:44:34.260 We say, you know, we've got these FEOC restrictions now.
00:44:37.060 We're not going to send subsidies to companies that are tied in with China or that are Chinese-owned
00:44:41.660 companies or that are beholden to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:44:45.220 We're going to keep that money here in the United States for our own domestic companies
00:44:49.880 that are trying to invest in the United States.
00:44:52.720 Looking towards domestic industries like the Great Whale, for example, like the shipping
00:44:56.220 industry, how do you see those transforming over the next few years of rest of the income
00:45:01.580 administration due to the flexibility?
00:45:04.020 It's critical that we continue to invest in that, particularly shipbuilding.
00:45:07.640 Last year alone, China built more ships than the United States has built since World War
00:45:12.740 II.
00:45:12.960 That is an amazing statistic that should shock and concern each one of us here in the United
00:45:18.140 States.
00:45:18.880 By putting all these business-friendly provisions in place where we're going to start any manufacturing
00:45:23.540 facilities and let these businesses expense it 100% in the year that they take it, and
00:45:29.960 to resource a lot of our supply from overseas to domestic, we're now saying to the shipbuilding
00:45:36.200 industry in particular, we want you to be a part here in the United States.
00:45:39.400 We're going to find your locations for you to be able to build the ships that we need, use
00:45:43.760 home manufacturing, and have the quality and the standard that we expect here in the United
00:45:48.320 States, and do it at the rate and the expediency that you see overseas.
00:45:52.700 And part of that also is the regulatory reforms that were involved in this package that we're going to see more of.
00:45:57.560 Most of what China does to us is to undercut our manufacturing by cheating and also by skipping
00:46:05.700 good quality and by not having that huge regulatory burden that we have seen here in America on
00:46:12.060 their businesses.
00:46:13.180 But thankfully, President Trump is releasing us from a lot of those burdens.
00:46:16.960 Big time, big time.
00:46:17.940 Well, thank you so much, Congressman, for your time.
00:46:19.820 Yeah, my pleasure.
00:46:20.600 Thanks.
00:46:20.980 Likewise.
00:46:21.200 What is the biggest win for MAGA here, and what is the biggest-
00:46:24.620 The biggest win for MAGA since this year?
00:46:27.320 With the big, beautiful bill.
00:46:28.480 The big, beautiful bill.
00:46:29.460 I would probably say the tax cuts are the most significant portion of the bill, and that
00:46:35.740 was a must.
00:46:36.340 I agree with about 80% of the bill.
00:46:38.640 There were some things in the bill that I really didn't like, but I have to manage my
00:46:42.520 expectations, right?
00:46:43.760 And that was, you got the tax cuts, you talk a little bit about Medicaid and not allowing
00:46:50.660 legals, you have SNAP benefits.
00:46:53.480 So I thought we did a really good job overall with the bill, but there were some things that
00:46:58.200 I had concerns over, but it wasn't going to be enough for me to tank the bill.
00:47:02.660 I voted yes for the one big, beautiful bill because it was the right thing to do, and I believe
00:47:07.820 it does put Donald Trump and his agenda with the American people first.
00:47:12.180 What do you think for the American worker does this bill do?
00:47:16.800 Well, it does a lot for the small business owners, you know, providing tax relief.
00:47:20.680 And quite honestly, if you look at the American worker, how about those in the industry as it
00:47:25.240 relates to food service and this and that, the no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, I think.
00:47:30.800 Those are big, big deals, and it does help those seniors, too, with social security.
00:47:35.440 Talk to me about American manufacturing and innovation.
00:47:38.340 How does the big, beautiful bill empower that?
00:47:40.340 Well, I think it's a big, beautiful bill.
00:47:42.160 It says we want to bring manufacturing and innovation back to the United States of America
00:47:46.760 because it seems to be going every place but.
00:47:49.720 And so what Donald Trump is trying to do, President Trump is doing a great job with his tariffs.
00:47:54.000 Now, some people are concerned about the tariffs.
00:47:55.840 I'm not concerned about the tariffs.
00:47:57.520 The market's doing just fine, people.
00:47:59.340 The market's doing fine.
00:48:00.340 So by bringing those tariffs in and bringing that innovation and technology back to the United
00:48:04.680 States in its shores, that's where it belongs.
00:48:06.820 How does that work hand-in-hand with the deregulation aspect?
00:48:10.340 Well, you would know how that works with the deregulation.
00:48:13.040 You can't.
00:48:13.500 I mean, we try to build anything in America today, whether it's, and I'm the chairman over
00:48:18.480 aviation, you try to get any type of certification done through aviation, it just takes years and
00:48:24.280 years and years of years of bureaucracy and red tape, right?
00:48:27.400 So I think there is, I think this administration is looking, you know what, it shouldn't take
00:48:32.060 us four years to have an environmental impact study and get NEPA involved and tell me we're
00:48:39.260 going to offend a woodpecker.
00:48:42.500 I don't care about the woodpecker, right?
00:48:44.640 Let's not get in the way of those things and let's start building because it costs us a
00:48:49.080 lot more money with all these regulations and these delays in getting projects done because
00:48:55.340 of some type of an environmental nut job trying to get involved.
00:48:59.400 Now, there is a big focus on the military and defense in this bill.
00:49:02.600 Tell me about that.
00:49:03.360 Well, I think that's great.
00:49:04.400 I mean, we all knew that our instructions were, we want to increase defense spending.
00:49:09.320 We want to do more for border security.
00:49:11.780 We want to hire more agents, ICE agents, all the DA, all the border agents.
00:49:16.520 So I think we've done that.
00:49:17.860 We understood how important that was.
00:49:20.100 And this big, beautiful bill does that.
00:49:22.000 I think it's sad that what you're seeing now with these assaults on federal agents,
00:49:26.700 specifically ICE agents and others, because the left, they'll tell you they're the party
00:49:31.520 of peace.
00:49:32.180 I will beg to differ on that part.
00:49:33.840 We got these agents that are going out there risking their lives each and every day to try
00:49:38.640 to put America first and protect the American people from these very, very bad hombres.
00:49:44.140 And it's got to stop.
00:49:45.460 But the left seems to just want to fuel the flames and get people all spun up and get people
00:49:50.740 emotional and when people start getting emotional, especially a bad arm break, you're going to
00:49:55.220 have assaults continue to increase and eventually it's going to require loss of life.
00:50:00.060 And if I was a border patrol agent and an ICE agent and a guy's coming at me with a knife
00:50:04.960 or a gun or a stick, I'm going to shoot him dead.
00:50:08.180 As far as spending goes, we know this bill tackles some of it, but what are you looking
00:50:11.600 for the future to see?
00:50:12.680 Well, this was our opportunity with reconciliation.
00:50:16.840 Obviously, you all know that the Senate, you only need a 50 seat, you know, you only need
00:50:21.220 a majority.
00:50:22.040 So it's hard to do reconciliation when you don't have both chambers, right?
00:50:26.620 The House and Senate, we have a unified government.
00:50:28.800 We have both chambers.
00:50:30.040 I thought we've done a pretty good job.
00:50:31.700 But then again, some of the same people that voted for the one big, beautiful bill is splocking
00:50:36.000 a little bit about the $9.4 billion we have in rescissions.
00:50:38.960 I'm like, what the hell are you doing?
00:50:41.000 We got $9.4 billion we can call back.
00:50:44.100 We did in the House.
00:50:45.440 The Senate's got till July, I think, 18 to get this done.
00:50:48.840 They better get it done.
00:50:50.140 They better get it done.
00:50:51.280 It's $9.4 billion.
00:50:52.960 And when we get all these instructions to try to reduce deficit spending and this and that,
00:50:57.540 we have an opportunity here.
00:50:59.020 The Republican Party, specifically the Senate, they better get their act together.
00:51:02.980 Big time, big time.
00:51:03.880 Well, thank you so much, Congressman, for your time.
00:51:05.920 Thank you.
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