WarRoom Battleground EP 849: On The Ground From Utah; Redistricting Fight In Indiana
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Summary
On this episode of The War Room, we have a special guest, Phil Lyman, a former candidate for governor in the great state of Utah, joins us to talk about the mass shooting at an anti-police protest in Aurora, Colorado.
Transcript
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It is Monday, the 15th of September in the year of our Lord, 2025.
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And we've got a lot to go through in this hour.
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I want to thank everybody for sticking around for the second hour of the late afternoon,
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We've got Phil Lyman on who was an eyewitness to events, a former candidate for governor in the great state of Utah.
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We're going to get DeGrasse in to talk about Indiana 9-0.
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So Politico's lead story this morning on the must-read playbook was about Indiana on Saturday.
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Senator Banks, Raheem Kassam, and of course, Alex DeGrasse organizing that about Indiana 9-0,
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as it is a litmus test for what's going on right now in the maximization strategy.
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And, of course, Dr. Bradley Thayer has helped us put together our thinking about Antifa and other of these organizations as domestic terrorist organizations.
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You heard the president from the Oval Office just moments ago saying that, hey, he's open to designating them,
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and then later says, I am going to designate this.
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So you've got Stephen Miller and Kash Patel and Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche, everybody, I'm sure, working on this even as we speak.
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I take it the building is right next to the low-sea center, so the low-sea center is kind of one removed.
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But you can see back in that amphitheater, you're going inside.
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Yeah, so I stop, look around for a couple of seconds in the doorway,
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and I just turn around and walk right back out.
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And my first objective is to, like, confirm, was that a gunshot?
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And then I walked over to the closest people to that spot where I was at,
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like, trying to get some confirmation to these.
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So I walk over to these two girls who were standing, leaning over the railing
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And I guess the chilling part of that, Steve, as I stepped up there,
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and it wasn't chilling at the time because I had one thing I was just trying to find out.
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And as I stepped up there, I just heard one of the girls over here,
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and she's looking at these fleeing kids down there running for their lives,
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and she said, go fuck yourselves, and, you know, not to me but to her friend.
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And she said, yeah, it was right over there, which was in type of an open area,
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and I looked over, and I couldn't see anything.
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And I didn't think a whole lot about it until later,
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but there was some disdain there, and I thought, you know, maybe I misunderstood.
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Maybe she's talking to, you know, somebody that she thinks was the shooter,
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So I was, you know, looking at my videos and stuff afterwards,
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because I had this, I was on tape, and it's like, yeah, that's what she said,
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and I thought that's an interesting reaction, and really the lack of reaction.
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I was, you know, honestly, I'm thinking, I'm here with a bunch of college kids,
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and I'm an old dude, and I'm going to go out there,
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and if there's a shooter, I want to stop him from shooting somebody else.
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And a lot of those kids were, they, like I say, they were running for their lives,
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and they were screaming, and it was a strange thing to say to a group of what I would think
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would be your peers and have a little bit of empathy for them.
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Was there any other, because there was kind of mass chaos after what is supposed to be the shot,
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the loud bang, did, were there any other groups that looked like they were not perturbed by it,
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that they weren't fleeing in mass chaos or mass, you know, just being afraid,
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There were a few, you know, clusters of people that were, in my mind, noticeably not reacting,
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and maybe they weren't, you know, tuned into what the threat was.
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I don't know how they couldn't be, because it was really chaotic.
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But yeah, there were a couple of other groups that just seemed to be more interested
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But in something like that, in the normal reaction that could be, this could be a mass
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casualty event, they could, like in Minneapolis, he let off 115, I think, rounds.
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The natural human thing, like you saw, by the way, the young men and women,
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particularly the young men fleeing, were, you know, look like kind of your jocks.
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It's a natural human reaction to like, let's get out of here until something's figured out.
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Like, wouldn't it strike you as very odd that people would just kind of not,
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didn't look like they were feared for their lives?
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Especially, especially where I was standing, because that really, there was a huge bang there.
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And pretty soon the cops, you know, the undercover cops were running through there saying,
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where's the shooter, where's the shooter, what'd you see, what'd you see?
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And, you know, people are saying, yeah, I think it's close by.
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And that's, I'm thinking, he's probably on the roof, not shooting.
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So probably done shooting, probably leaving the scene by now.
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And then when he showed the actual thing, it was just east of there,
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Still kind of above our heads, but a little bit further back.
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And yeah, if you're in that spot, and there was a lot of people
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who were running into the building, who were crouching down behind the center block,
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or the concrete retaining things, a lot of places to take cover.
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And it was noticeable that some of them were not taking cover.
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Phil, I take it you've tried to talk to the authorities, but it hasn't gotten traction yet.
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But you're open to talk to the authorities and tell them everything you know?
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No, I sent all my video footage, you know, to the FBI.
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Yeah, involved with a lot of other people who reached out to me and, you know, sharing stuff with me.
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And I will tell you, it didn't dawn on me that there could have been a pre-knowledge for some of these people
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until after we started questioning, you know, was that really the shooter?
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Watching that video of him coming off the roof, you know, which we didn't get to like two days later
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And that's when it kind of, and again, going back through my videos and watching,
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Well, I tell you what, Phil, I want to put a pin in,
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because I want to get to the videos in all of your,
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you were an eyewitness and thought you saw it, but then,
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and this is why I keep telling the FBI guys and others,
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We shouldn't hurt the investigation by putting out maybe too much details,
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but they're on Fox and other places putting out kind of every other,
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you know, every half hour you get another group.
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I got to get Alex DeGrasse in here because Alex has got a bounce.
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I want to, everybody in the Warren Posse that's out there as a Hoosier in Indiana,
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You're, you're the, you're the, you're the backbone of the country.
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And particularly when you have a political class that is,
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as, as the voters and the workers out there really want to thank Senator Banks,
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I mean, the Warren Posse, the standing ovations,
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what they, what they did when Raheem was talking,
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The Politico guys thought with everything going on,
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because they understand that this is an important story
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the maximalist strategy, and also the Trump movement.
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after that great conference you had the other day,
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And then I'll tell you what, people were fired up.
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We surprised them with, obviously we beamed in the show
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from the stage and people went absolutely crazy.
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And it was hundreds of people, Steve, over 500,
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who showed up on a Saturday for essentially eight hours
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And most importantly, obviously we're pushing 9-0, Steve.
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And I think, I think the lead of the story obviously
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is that the grassroots is not gonna take it anymore, right?
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you have Bruchowitz, you have major players saying,
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hey, least we can do here is move the ball forward.
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For Charlie, I mean, people are expecting nothing less.
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Charlie obviously would have wanted us to be there
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and there was talk, people, some people were nervous
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and positively communicate with your state representatives,
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educate them on what was discussed on the show.
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of course, these state houses are very challenging
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But Indiana certainly has, I think, some issues
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This is so important, important for President Trump.
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So I'm optimistic, but we've got to just keep pushing.
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because I want to flood the zone with the Warren Posse
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So if you do that for us, it was a great kickoff.
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And so the Warren Posse is looking to go to work,
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In fact, something's happening in the house right now.
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I'm not so sure it's going to make much of a difference.
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Kathy Hochul, the sitting governor of New York,
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Can you explain to folks throughout the country
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and what's going to happen in New York when they win.
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So, Steve, I think you and I were the only two people
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Certainly also Elise has been public with folks
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And this is where the party's heading for a litany.
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I think the most important thing is Kathy Hochul.
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I mean, New York is more like the crown jewel, Steve, right?
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You know, the fact that she bent the knee to communism,
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and they are kind of gutted from these kind of crazy people.
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And, I mean, Steve, getting rid of private health care,
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And, you know, there are a lot of anti-Semitism issues
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And he also has a ton of support from liberal Jewish voters.
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that facing a possible governor race with Elise,
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that she was worried about her left flank, Steve,
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and they're going after the Kathy Hochuls of the world, Steve.
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I mean, these people are gearing up to devour their own.
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No, I mean, New York is the financial capital of the world.
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they move inward, they move across the country,
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So just as you've got this issue with California Newsom,
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for what's coming from the modern Democrat Party
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I mean, this guy's funded locks, off, and barrel.