Bannon's War Room - September 15, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 849: On The Ground From Utah; Redistricting Fight In Indiana


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

178.46083

Word Count

9,663

Sentence Count

586

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

On this episode of The War Room, we have a special guest, Phil Lyman, a former candidate for governor in the great state of Utah, joins us to talk about the mass shooting at an anti-police protest in Aurora, Colorado.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:16.520 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:21.820 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:26.100 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:28.020 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:29.180 I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:31.200 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:32.120 It's going to happen.
00:00:33.400 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:36.800 Mega Media.
00:00:38.120 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:43.520 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:47.340 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:53.620 War Room.
00:00:54.540 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:00:59.180 It is Monday, the 15th of September in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:01:05.960 And we've got a lot to go through in this hour.
00:01:09.000 I want to thank everybody for sticking around for the second hour of the late afternoon,
00:01:13.320 early evening edition of the War Room.
00:01:15.760 We've got Phil Lyman on who was an eyewitness to events, a former candidate for governor in the great state of Utah.
00:01:23.680 DeGrasse is going to jump in here.
00:01:25.100 He's got a bolt at 630.
00:01:26.980 We're going to get DeGrasse in to talk about Indiana 9-0.
00:01:29.360 So Politico's lead story this morning on the must-read playbook was about Indiana on Saturday.
00:01:38.600 Senator Banks, Raheem Kassam, and of course, Alex DeGrasse organizing that about Indiana 9-0,
00:01:46.060 as it is a litmus test for what's going on right now in the maximization strategy.
00:01:50.280 And, of course, Dr. Bradley Thayer has helped us put together our thinking about Antifa and other of these organizations as domestic terrorist organizations.
00:02:00.800 You heard the president from the Oval Office just moments ago saying that, hey, he's open to designating them,
00:02:06.440 and then later says, I am going to designate this.
00:02:08.420 So you've got Stephen Miller and Kash Patel and Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche, everybody, I'm sure, working on this even as we speak.
00:02:17.440 So, Mark, you're towards the back.
00:02:20.780 You're about to go get your friends.
00:02:22.060 You're going to walk into the building.
00:02:23.260 I take it the building is right next to the low-sea center, so the low-sea center is kind of one removed.
00:02:28.400 But you can see back in that amphitheater, you're going inside.
00:02:31.560 You hear a loud bang, right?
00:02:33.940 You hear a loud bang.
00:02:35.460 And what do you do?
00:02:36.260 You stop going downstairs.
00:02:37.480 You turn and go back out into the open space?
00:02:40.520 Yeah.
00:02:40.740 Yeah, so I stop, look around for a couple of seconds in the doorway,
00:02:45.200 and I just turn around and walk right back out.
00:02:48.720 And my first objective is to, like, confirm, was that a gunshot?
00:02:52.520 What's going on?
00:02:53.240 And so you start seeing the chaos.
00:02:55.000 It's like, okay, this is a gunshot.
00:02:57.460 And then I walked over to the closest people to that spot where I was at,
00:03:03.780 like, trying to get some confirmation to these.
00:03:06.640 So I walk over to these two girls who were standing, leaning over the railing
00:03:11.900 and kind of watching the crowd scatter.
00:03:15.140 And I guess the chilling part of that, Steve, as I stepped up there,
00:03:20.800 and it wasn't chilling at the time because I had one thing I was just trying to find out.
00:03:23.820 Did that gunshot, is that a gunshot?
00:03:26.120 Did it come from up here?
00:03:27.700 And as I stepped up there, I just heard one of the girls over here,
00:03:29.920 she was just talking to her friend,
00:03:31.040 and she's looking at these fleeing kids down there running for their lives,
00:03:34.700 and she said, go fuck yourselves, and, you know, not to me but to her friend.
00:03:40.040 And I thought, and I just jumped in.
00:03:42.200 I said, did that shot come from here?
00:03:43.820 Wasn't that right here?
00:03:44.580 And she said, yeah, it was right over there, which was in type of an open area,
00:03:48.540 and I looked over, and I couldn't see anything.
00:03:51.160 And I didn't think a whole lot about it until later,
00:03:55.540 but there was some disdain there, and I thought, you know, maybe I misunderstood.
00:03:58.960 Maybe she's talking to, you know, somebody that she thinks was the shooter,
00:04:03.880 or something, there's some contempt there.
00:04:06.120 So I was, you know, looking at my videos and stuff afterwards,
00:04:09.060 because I had this, I was on tape, and it's like, yeah, that's what she said,
00:04:13.640 and I thought that's an interesting reaction, and really the lack of reaction.
00:04:20.660 It's like, why are you not ducking down?
00:04:22.180 Why are you not afraid?
00:04:24.640 You're young.
00:04:25.400 You've got a lot of life ahead of you.
00:04:26.820 I was, you know, honestly, I'm thinking, I'm here with a bunch of college kids,
00:04:30.620 and I'm an old dude, and I'm going to go out there,
00:04:32.080 and if there's a shooter, I want to stop him from shooting somebody else.
00:04:35.980 And a lot of those kids were, they, like I say, they were running for their lives,
00:04:38.720 and they were screaming, and it was a strange thing to say to a group of what I would think
00:04:43.340 would be your peers and have a little bit of empathy for them.
00:04:47.900 Was there any other, because there was kind of mass chaos after what is supposed to be the shot,
00:04:52.960 the loud bang, did, were there any other groups that looked like they were not perturbed by it,
00:05:01.080 that they weren't fleeing in mass chaos or mass, you know, just being afraid,
00:05:05.860 really running for their lives?
00:05:08.700 There were a few.
00:05:09.760 There were a few, you know, clusters of people that were, in my mind, noticeably not reacting,
00:05:16.880 and maybe they weren't, you know, tuned into what the threat was.
00:05:23.720 I don't know how they couldn't be, because it was really chaotic.
00:05:28.640 But yeah, there were a couple of other groups that just seemed to be more interested
00:05:33.700 in kind of the spectator side of this.
00:05:35.760 But in something like that, in the normal reaction that could be, this could be a mass
00:05:44.440 casualty event, they could, like in Minneapolis, he let off 115, I think, rounds.
00:05:50.400 The natural human thing, like you saw, by the way, the young men and women,
00:05:54.740 particularly the young men fleeing, were, you know, look like kind of your jocks.
00:05:59.000 It's a natural human reaction to like, let's get out of here until something's figured out.
00:06:04.480 Like, wouldn't it strike you as very odd that people would just kind of not,
00:06:09.600 didn't look like they were feared for their lives?
00:06:13.380 Especially, especially where I was standing, because that really, there was a huge bang there.
00:06:18.740 And pretty soon the cops, you know, the undercover cops were running through there saying,
00:06:22.560 where's the shooter, where's the shooter, what'd you see, what'd you see?
00:06:25.360 And, you know, people are saying, yeah, I think it's close by.
00:06:28.340 And that's, I'm thinking, he's probably on the roof, not shooting.
00:06:32.240 So probably done shooting, probably leaving the scene by now.
00:06:35.940 And that was of the Sorenson building.
00:06:38.520 And then when he showed the actual thing, it was just east of there,
00:06:42.700 which is really, really close as well.
00:06:44.500 Still kind of above our heads, but a little bit further back.
00:06:47.720 And yeah, if you're in that spot, and there was a lot of people
00:06:51.700 who were running into the building, who were crouching down behind the center block,
00:06:56.800 or the concrete retaining things, a lot of places to take cover.
00:07:02.780 And it was noticeable that some of them were not taking cover.
00:07:08.920 Phil, I take it you've tried to talk to the authorities, but it hasn't gotten traction yet.
00:07:14.760 But you're open to talk to the authorities and tell them everything you know?
00:07:17.780 Oh, yeah.
00:07:19.060 No, I sent all my video footage, you know, to the FBI.
00:07:26.440 Yeah, involved with a lot of other people who reached out to me and, you know, sharing stuff with me.
00:07:32.420 So I forwarded everything that I could.
00:07:35.920 And I will tell you, it didn't dawn on me that there could have been a pre-knowledge for some of these people
00:07:42.820 until after we started questioning, you know, was that really the shooter?
00:07:46.140 Was there really a person on the roof?
00:07:47.780 Watching that video of him coming off the roof, you know, which we didn't get to like two days later
00:07:51.420 and saying, this is not adding up.
00:07:53.960 Stuff is not adding up.
00:07:55.060 And that's when it kind of, and again, going back through my videos and watching,
00:07:58.400 I was like, that is out of place.
00:08:00.500 That was a really out of place response.
00:08:03.600 Well, I tell you what, Phil, I want to put a pin in,
00:08:07.080 because I want to get to the videos in all of your,
00:08:09.660 you were an eyewitness and thought you saw it, but then,
00:08:13.120 and this is why I keep telling the FBI guys and others,
00:08:15.780 we just can't driven drive this out.
00:08:18.060 We shouldn't hurt the investigation by putting out maybe too much details,
00:08:22.060 but they're on Fox and other places putting out kind of every other,
00:08:26.160 you know, every half hour you get another group.
00:08:27.780 You have to have a briefing.
00:08:29.300 You particularly have to address these videos.
00:08:31.000 Hang on for one second.
00:08:31.820 I got to get Alex DeGrasse in here because Alex has got a bounce.
00:08:36.780 DeGrasse, the event on Saturday,
00:08:40.020 particularly given the tragedy was next level.
00:08:43.520 And I got to tell you the intensity.
00:08:44.860 I want to, everybody in the Warren Posse that's out there as a Hoosier in Indiana,
00:08:49.040 you guys are the best.
00:08:50.220 You're, you're the, you're the, you're the backbone of the country.
00:08:53.180 And particularly when you have a political class that is,
00:08:57.160 you know, maybe not as MAGA as,
00:08:59.140 as, as the voters and the workers out there really want to thank Senator Banks,
00:09:03.760 who is about as based as you can get.
00:09:06.160 But where do we stand?
00:09:07.660 Because the rally cry, and I want to tell you,
00:09:09.500 we were overwhelmed by the crowd response.
00:09:11.740 I mean, the Warren Posse, the standing ovations,
00:09:13.920 what they, what they did when Raheem was talking,
00:09:16.480 we had the Tommy Robinson up.
00:09:18.680 So where do we stand?
00:09:19.580 Because as Politico, you had Adam Wren,
00:09:21.820 who's about as smart a political reporter,
00:09:24.200 as in all of DC was out there.
00:09:27.160 The Politico guys thought with everything going on,
00:09:30.180 it's the lead story in, in, in playbook,
00:09:32.880 because they understand that this is an important story
00:09:36.460 about where the country is.
00:09:38.300 So what is happening now?
00:09:40.640 But it's, it's gotta be 9-0, not 8-1.
00:09:43.240 This is a litmus test of the maximalization,
00:09:46.320 the maximalist strategy, and also the Trump movement.
00:09:49.900 So where are we on Monday afternoon,
00:09:51.920 after that great conference you had the other day,
00:09:55.100 where do we stand?
00:09:56.740 Well, Steve, thank you.
00:09:57.660 It was amazing.
00:09:58.180 And then I'll tell you what, people were fired up.
00:09:59.800 We surprised them with, obviously we beamed in the show
00:10:02.800 from the stage and people went absolutely crazy.
00:10:05.300 And it was hundreds of people, Steve, over 500,
00:10:07.960 who showed up on a Saturday for essentially eight hours
00:10:11.260 of working conferences and strategy sessions
00:10:14.040 and some pump-up stuff.
00:10:15.320 And most importantly, obviously we're pushing 9-0, Steve.
00:10:18.040 And I think, I think the lead of the story obviously
00:10:21.900 is that the grassroots is not gonna take it anymore, right?
00:10:24.840 I mean, people, I mean, you have a senator,
00:10:28.060 you have Bruchowitz, you have major players saying,
00:10:31.180 hey, least we can do here is move the ball forward.
00:10:33.960 For Charlie, I mean, people are expecting nothing less.
00:10:36.760 I mean, you know, I think sort of reflecting
00:10:39.320 on everything that went down,
00:10:40.560 Charlie obviously would have wanted us to be there
00:10:42.460 and there was talk, people, some people were nervous
00:10:44.540 and we understand, of course.
00:10:46.320 And we decided obviously to press forward
00:10:48.360 to keep this ball moving forward
00:10:50.280 because this could determine everything,
00:10:53.000 obviously in the House.
00:10:54.200 As we've spoken about at first, Steve,
00:10:55.880 on the show, we were talking about 8-1.
00:10:57.680 Now we're obviously talking about 9-0.
00:10:59.880 I think there is a lot of unknown.
00:11:01.520 I think it's really important for Indiana,
00:11:03.540 for the posse to lock in calmly
00:11:05.940 and positively communicate with your state representatives,
00:11:09.000 with your state senators,
00:11:10.440 educate them on what was discussed on the show.
00:11:12.720 Maybe we can send out,
00:11:14.360 we'll clip kind of our presentation
00:11:16.440 and get that to sort of Grayson folks
00:11:18.540 and kind of get it out to folks
00:11:19.800 on your list and whatever.
00:11:21.440 Just to add, because we had a conversation
00:11:23.340 with three of the state representatives
00:11:24.740 who kind of walked through the backroom deals
00:11:27.140 and kind of what's at stake here.
00:11:28.540 And I think people would be concerned,
00:11:30.900 of course, these state houses are very challenging
00:11:33.820 with the establishment across the country.
00:11:36.380 But Indiana certainly has, I think, some issues
00:11:39.460 with the kind of Mitch Daniel, Mike Pence.
00:11:41.980 You know, it really is a big battle,
00:11:44.100 titanic battle for the direction of the party.
00:11:46.720 So I think we need to push forward.
00:11:48.540 This is so important, important for President Trump.
00:11:51.000 Everyone's engaged here.
00:11:52.120 So I'm optimistic, but we've got to just keep pushing.
00:11:56.400 Because there's been no official movement yet.
00:11:57.880 Can you get us the information to Mark?
00:11:59.060 Yeah.
00:12:00.500 Exactly.
00:12:01.120 That's the problem.
00:12:01.140 There's no official movement.
00:12:02.180 So can you get us all the information
00:12:04.180 and we'll put it up.
00:12:05.740 We'll get you back on to Mark,
00:12:06.660 because I want to flood the zone with the Warren Posse
00:12:08.740 and have people working the phones
00:12:10.100 and working the system here.
00:12:12.280 So if you do that for us, it was a great kickoff.
00:12:16.600 And they now know that 8-1 is not acceptable.
00:12:19.260 It's got to be 9-0.
00:12:21.080 And so we just need the information
00:12:22.600 to make sure we can go back.
00:12:24.520 And so the Warren Posse is looking to go to work,
00:12:26.840 looking to do something.
00:12:28.960 You know, they're going to prayer visuals.
00:12:30.380 They're honoring Charlie.
00:12:31.120 In fact, something's happening in the house right now.
00:12:32.660 We may cut to it in a few minutes.
00:12:34.120 Another memorial for Charlie.
00:12:36.000 But people want to take action.
00:12:37.320 They want to support Charlie's work
00:12:38.700 and drive the task and purpose
00:12:41.740 of Turning Point more forward.
00:12:44.820 Before I let you go,
00:12:46.260 because I know with Elise Stefanik,
00:12:47.820 you're her chief strategist,
00:12:48.900 what's happening in New York?
00:12:51.520 Because I've told people for a while
00:12:53.300 that this guy was going to win the primary.
00:12:55.920 He's going to beat Cuomo.
00:12:57.080 And now Adams looks like he may drop out
00:12:59.160 as early as Friday.
00:13:01.200 I'm not so sure it's going to make much of a difference.
00:13:03.980 Kathy Hochul, the sitting governor of New York,
00:13:07.840 endorsed Donnie today.
00:13:10.980 Can you explain to folks throughout the country
00:13:12.780 who I don't think quite have gotten it?
00:13:15.240 And it's not the Warren Posse.
00:13:17.020 They get it.
00:13:17.500 But the media that watches this
00:13:18.880 and the hedge fund guys,
00:13:20.440 how radical this guy is
00:13:22.820 in the Working People's Party and the DSA
00:13:25.060 and what's going to happen in New York when they win.
00:13:27.040 Because right now they're on a glide path
00:13:29.180 to not just win, but win big.
00:13:31.820 Yeah.
00:13:32.100 So, Steve, I think you and I were the only two people
00:13:34.100 that said Mamdami was going to win.
00:13:35.600 Certainly also Elise has been public with folks
00:13:38.300 months before the primary saying,
00:13:40.040 hey, this guy's going to win.
00:13:40.860 He's got the momentum on the Democrat side.
00:13:42.700 And this is where the party's heading for a litany.
00:13:45.320 I think the most important thing is Kathy Hochul.
00:13:47.700 I mean, New York is more like the crown jewel, Steve, right?
00:13:50.140 You got California, you got New York.
00:13:51.620 That's like the two Democrat power centers.
00:13:54.380 And then obviously the imperial capital,
00:13:56.860 you know, to an extent as well, of course.
00:13:59.440 You know, the fact that she bent the knee to communism,
00:14:02.300 to anti-Semitism, to this sort of jihadism,
00:14:05.800 green alliance type of situation,
00:14:07.760 it shows that the establishment is weak
00:14:10.800 and they are kind of gutted from these kind of crazy people.
00:14:14.040 And, I mean, Steve, getting rid of private health care,
00:14:16.720 government on grocery stores,
00:14:18.380 ending the police as we know it,
00:14:19.860 getting rid of the gang database,
00:14:21.680 you know, importing more illegals,
00:14:23.500 you know, restricting ICE, going against,
00:14:25.800 I mean, just his mantra is crazy.
00:14:28.720 And especially the Israel stuff.
00:14:30.180 And, you know, there are a lot of anti-Semitism issues
00:14:32.980 on the ground in New York.
00:14:34.240 And he also has a ton of support from liberal Jewish voters.
00:14:36.900 So the whole thing is crazy.
00:14:37.940 And I think the fact that she understood
00:14:40.520 that facing a possible governor race with Elise,
00:14:43.280 that she was worried about her left flank, Steve,
00:14:45.740 because these people are ruthless
00:14:46.680 and they're going after the Kathy Hochuls of the world, Steve.
00:14:49.080 I mean, these people are gearing up to devour their own.
00:14:52.160 But we, you and I both said,
00:14:53.580 we said everyone will bend the knee.
00:14:55.300 The establishment, the Democrats,
00:14:57.700 you know, some of the Wall Street guys,
00:14:59.240 they're going to play ball.
00:15:00.240 And that's what's happening, Steve.
00:15:02.140 And some are panicking and they should.
00:15:04.060 And I think Charlie Kirk,
00:15:06.100 and Elise was going through her text
00:15:07.560 and she posted this on X,
00:15:08.960 and Charlie Kirk texted her
00:15:10.180 and he also published something,
00:15:11.920 I think back in June or July,
00:15:13.220 and said, we can't give up on New York.
00:15:14.840 It's so easy for people to say,
00:15:16.280 hey, New York is gone, let it destroy.
00:15:19.420 No, I mean, New York is the financial capital of the world.
00:15:21.700 You always say it, Steve.
00:15:22.700 And really, New York is sort of the breach.
00:15:25.740 It's sort of the beachhead for the far left.
00:15:28.100 And once they kind of implant there,
00:15:29.840 they move inward, they move across the country,
00:15:31.920 whether it's bail reform,
00:15:33.600 all the illegal sanctuary cities.
00:15:35.040 It all started in New York
00:15:36.360 and or California, unfortunately.
00:15:37.820 So just as you've got this issue with California Newsom,
00:15:41.160 we've got this issue in New York,
00:15:42.520 and we'll see how things develop.
00:15:44.080 But the fact that Kathy Hochul
00:15:46.320 has beat Hakeem Jeffries, Schumer,
00:15:48.380 all of these guys,
00:15:49.780 and endorsed, not just endorsed,
00:15:51.280 I mean, went full out,
00:15:52.420 said he's great when you do Trump,
00:15:54.380 blah, blah, blah, he's great.
00:15:55.380 I mean, it's really alarming.
00:15:57.720 And people should be scared.
00:15:59.000 People should be scared
00:15:59.900 for what's coming from the modern Democrat Party
00:16:02.500 because the communists, the jihadists,
00:16:05.380 I mean, this guy's funded locks, off, and barrel.
00:16:07.660 You look at his family.
00:16:08.640 No, he's a Marxist.
00:16:09.580 But this is what's so important
00:16:12.660 about designating right now
00:16:14.160 Antifa as a terrorist organization
00:16:16.020 because you spread out,
00:16:16.900 you go to terrorist finance.
00:16:18.660 We have no earthly idea,
00:16:20.000 and I've said this from the very beginning.
00:16:21.320 The guys called me up here
00:16:22.220 and had he defeat him.
00:16:22.900 I said, listen, you've got to get to back
00:16:24.280 where this kid's money's coming from.
00:16:26.240 You've got to do it,
00:16:26.980 and you have to do it now.
00:16:27.880 You're not going to beat him
00:16:28.720 with conventional weapons.
00:16:29.840 You're not going to...
00:16:30.840 Curtis Sliwa and Adams
00:16:32.640 are not going to drop out
00:16:33.600 and magically Cuomo's going to win.
00:16:35.140 Cuomo's not even running a race, right?
00:16:36.760 He's Frank Skeffington in the last hurrah.
00:16:39.240 This thing's over.
00:16:40.920 And now you're seeing him
00:16:41.620 bend in the knee,
00:16:42.220 and more importantly,
00:16:43.040 you're seeing the finance community
00:16:44.140 and you're seeing big business
00:16:45.280 bend in the knee also.
00:16:46.920 So about the money, though,
00:16:48.680 this is why the terrorism designation
00:16:50.680 is so important
00:16:51.400 because then you get into
00:16:52.300 all these kind of groups,
00:16:54.200 ActBlue and the Souris
00:16:55.800 and these other,
00:16:56.740 Arabella and all this other dark money
00:16:59.820 that's coming in.
00:17:01.040 As President Trump said,
00:17:02.220 you know,
00:17:02.900 farra violations
00:17:04.120 by billionaires
00:17:05.340 taking money
00:17:06.000 from foreign countries
00:17:07.000 and putting it into this apparatus.
00:17:09.000 Is that something you think...
00:17:10.500 It may be too late
00:17:11.500 to stop the victory,
00:17:12.920 but is that something
00:17:13.500 you eventually
00:17:13.960 take this guy down?
00:17:15.760 Well, I think it's huge, Steve.
00:17:16.980 I think his connections
00:17:17.880 with foreign,
00:17:18.780 you know,
00:17:19.160 sort of radical Islamic,
00:17:20.600 and absolutely,
00:17:21.220 I stand by that.
00:17:22.740 It's critical
00:17:23.200 on the sort of
00:17:24.520 Antifa designation.
00:17:25.500 It's clear
00:17:26.100 from just based on
00:17:27.180 what we know
00:17:27.720 through public information
00:17:28.960 about the shooting
00:17:29.660 and sort of their network
00:17:31.880 I think is very alarming.
00:17:33.320 I think the RICO side
00:17:34.380 of things
00:17:34.740 that President Trump
00:17:35.440 mentioned as well,
00:17:36.220 and actually,
00:17:36.580 I think he's using,
00:17:37.540 I think the information
00:17:38.240 that he's working off of
00:17:40.060 because I know
00:17:40.560 it's what I've seen
00:17:41.420 and what's been publicly reported
00:17:42.760 is sort of the money
00:17:44.060 traced through
00:17:44.680 the Working Families Party,
00:17:46.120 you know,
00:17:46.320 billions from Soros,
00:17:47.420 it goes through non-profits,
00:17:48.780 it gets washed out
00:17:49.540 with these limits,
00:17:50.640 they're hiring staff.
00:17:51.740 I mean,
00:17:52.300 none of their stuff is,
00:17:53.840 I mean,
00:17:54.000 I think he kind of peaked
00:17:55.120 and got some grassroots support,
00:17:56.400 but a lot of this stuff
00:17:57.220 is AstroTurf,
00:17:58.360 highly coordinated,
00:17:59.540 highly sort of manipulated
00:18:00.680 on social media
00:18:01.520 with the CCP,
00:18:02.960 other foreign actors.
00:18:04.020 So I think when you look
00:18:04.840 at it holistically,
00:18:06.000 you look at the money,
00:18:06.840 of course,
00:18:07.340 you've got the Antifa,
00:18:08.820 the terrorism side
00:18:09.680 of things in general,
00:18:10.520 but you've also got
00:18:11.220 this RICO sort of
00:18:12.620 where they're funding
00:18:14.000 all this violence
00:18:14.900 and different things
00:18:15.520 with Soros
00:18:16.040 and money's passing
00:18:16.780 through non-profits
00:18:17.640 and the political,
00:18:18.720 you know,
00:18:19.460 state parties
00:18:20.200 and different things,
00:18:21.260 and I think it's a huge issue,
00:18:22.460 and I think,
00:18:23.660 I mean,
00:18:24.420 Momdami's funded
00:18:25.200 by California,
00:18:26.060 he's funded by billionaires,
00:18:27.620 I mean,
00:18:27.980 that's the thing,
00:18:28.500 Steve,
00:18:28.700 I mean,
00:18:28.900 he's got a super PAC,
00:18:30.000 they're raising millions
00:18:30.740 of dollars,
00:18:31.300 I mean,
00:18:31.480 come on here,
00:18:32.040 you know,
00:18:32.600 money's pouring in,
00:18:33.420 the Working Families Party
00:18:34.440 spent millions of dollars,
00:18:36.000 Soros has put in
00:18:36.820 like $30 million
00:18:37.660 into that entity
00:18:39.560 over time,
00:18:40.380 so,
00:18:41.340 I mean,
00:18:41.700 they know what they're doing,
00:18:42.660 and it's very sophisticated,
00:18:44.060 it's not grassroots.
00:18:47.140 George Will
00:18:48.280 and these other bow tie,
00:18:50.240 you know,
00:18:50.400 Bill Buckley,
00:18:51.380 National Review,
00:18:52.440 the Salon,
00:18:53.280 conservative,
00:18:53.680 say,
00:18:53.960 oh,
00:18:54.140 well,
00:18:54.260 it's socialism,
00:18:55.660 and let it fail,
00:18:56.960 hey,
00:18:57.660 these are Marxist jihadists,
00:18:59.480 when they get control,
00:19:01.220 it's just like Sadiq Khan
00:19:02.420 taking control of London,
00:19:03.680 they ain't giving it up,
00:19:04.960 and people should note
00:19:06.060 that President Trump
00:19:07.460 is making a state visit
00:19:08.620 that he's wanted to make
00:19:09.440 for a long time,
00:19:10.660 they put out the schedule
00:19:11.560 in detail,
00:19:12.240 President Trump's
00:19:12.800 going to leave tomorrow,
00:19:13.460 he's going to go to Windsor,
00:19:14.720 he's going to spend
00:19:15.380 Tuesday night there,
00:19:17.240 he's also going to have
00:19:18.360 a whole array
00:19:19.480 of ceremonies
00:19:21.680 at Windsor Castle
00:19:23.100 with the King of England,
00:19:24.620 King Charles,
00:19:25.620 on Wednesday,
00:19:26.360 then he's going to go
00:19:26.980 to Checkers,
00:19:28.500 Winston Churchill's
00:19:29.640 country home
00:19:31.560 that he then gave,
00:19:33.080 donated to the ministers,
00:19:37.760 I think it was,
00:19:38.380 to the prime ministers,
00:19:42.100 he's going to stay there,
00:19:42.960 Starmer,
00:19:43.360 he's not going within,
00:19:44.620 I don't know,
00:19:45.120 40 miles of London,
00:19:46.280 why?
00:19:47.720 Because London
00:19:48.380 has been radicalized,
00:19:49.500 the President of the United States
00:19:50.240 can't go to London,
00:19:50.900 Tommy Robinson
00:19:52.320 got over a million people
00:19:53.700 of British working class
00:19:55.440 and middle class people
00:19:56.160 to show up,
00:19:57.340 but Sadiq Khan
00:19:58.140 has turned London
00:19:59.080 into a no-go zone,
00:20:00.800 and when the President
00:20:01.660 of the United States
00:20:02.180 goes for a state visit
00:20:03.280 and does not go to London,
00:20:05.040 that should be a big tell
00:20:06.300 to everybody
00:20:07.040 because of security concerns.
00:20:09.360 Alex,
00:20:09.800 we'll get you on tomorrow,
00:20:10.680 we've got so much more
00:20:11.380 to go through
00:20:11.920 on 9-0 in Indiana,
00:20:14.320 you're going to get
00:20:14.740 some information,
00:20:15.360 we're going to put it out
00:20:16.180 where do people go
00:20:17.240 to get you
00:20:17.740 on your social media?
00:20:20.300 Thanks, Steve,
00:20:20.840 I'm at Degrass81
00:20:21.900 on X,
00:20:22.740 Truth Getter,
00:20:24.360 keep an eye on New York
00:20:25.700 and then if you're in Indiana,
00:20:26.840 let's lock in
00:20:27.460 and they'll have updates
00:20:28.200 on the rest of the states
00:20:29.160 as well
00:20:29.560 because we've got to
00:20:30.080 keep driving that ship.
00:20:31.120 So thank you, Steve.
00:20:33.720 Thank you, brother.
00:20:35.400 Okay,
00:20:35.780 I want to play a clip
00:20:36.560 that Michael Savage
00:20:37.260 just from the other day,
00:20:38.120 a lot has changed
00:20:39.040 since Michael Savage
00:20:39.860 said this,
00:20:40.320 I think I'm much more
00:20:40.880 engaged in FBI,
00:20:41.840 the Department of Justice,
00:20:42.660 President Trump
00:20:43.280 just said he could
00:20:43.800 designate Antifa
00:20:45.380 as a domestic terrorist
00:20:46.680 organization
00:20:47.300 or a terrorist organization
00:20:48.300 for investigation
00:20:48.940 but I want to play this
00:20:50.300 carefully and bring Phil
00:20:51.340 back in
00:20:52.220 because I think
00:20:52.680 a lot of us
00:20:53.240 have these questions
00:20:54.020 that Mike Savage had.
00:20:55.080 Let's go ahead
00:20:55.380 and play it.
00:20:55.720 Something's wrong.
00:20:58.760 I know I shouldn't do this.
00:21:00.940 I'm risking an awful lot
00:21:02.300 to go up against
00:21:03.920 this FBI,
00:21:06.320 the MAGA FBI.
00:21:07.680 Something's very wrong
00:21:09.300 with what I just heard.
00:21:11.900 I mean,
00:21:12.480 I watched it.
00:21:13.420 I was hoping
00:21:14.180 that they had caught
00:21:14.940 the bastard
00:21:16.140 who shot Charlie.
00:21:17.900 So we saw a video
00:21:19.200 of a person
00:21:21.780 jumping off the roof.
00:21:23.040 It looked very
00:21:23.660 legitimate to me.
00:21:25.720 However,
00:21:26.060 there was no rifle
00:21:26.800 in his hand.
00:21:28.740 Now,
00:21:29.700 the Mauser
00:21:30.240 does not break down
00:21:31.200 very easily,
00:21:32.000 incidentally,
00:21:32.520 for those of you
00:21:33.020 who know weapons.
00:21:33.760 Something's wrong
00:21:34.520 with the whole thing.
00:21:36.960 They're trying to claim
00:21:37.760 he removed
00:21:38.520 the barrel
00:21:40.160 from the Mauser
00:21:41.020 and fit the receiver
00:21:42.300 and stock
00:21:42.820 in his backpack
00:21:43.680 and barrel
00:21:44.540 in his pants
00:21:45.060 like all in two seconds.
00:21:47.400 It is not easy
00:21:48.700 to remove
00:21:49.460 a Mauser barrel
00:21:51.400 or index it
00:21:52.820 after reinstalling
00:21:54.680 and remain accurate.
00:21:55.720 We are not hearing
00:21:56.500 or seeing reality.
00:21:58.740 And by the way,
00:22:00.800 the photo of the rifle
00:22:02.100 allegedly left
00:22:03.100 in the woods
00:22:03.720 has the barrel installed.
00:22:05.620 So we're supposed
00:22:06.140 to believe
00:22:06.940 a guy is on the run
00:22:09.100 after killing
00:22:09.960 Charlie Kirk
00:22:10.760 and he pauses
00:22:12.500 in the woods
00:22:13.060 to reinstall a barrel
00:22:14.180 and then he leaves
00:22:15.280 it for us to find,
00:22:16.400 the FBI to find.
00:22:17.460 I don't believe
00:22:18.140 a word of it.
00:22:18.620 I shouldn't do this.
00:22:20.860 I know I'm putting
00:22:21.360 myself at risk
00:22:22.240 but I can't take it anymore.
00:22:24.840 I can't take the
00:22:25.540 from this
00:22:26.540 government.
00:22:27.880 It's lying to us.
00:22:30.500 Something's wrong.
00:22:32.880 Something's so wrong
00:22:33.820 it's sickening.
00:22:36.520 Look at this idiot.
00:22:37.560 They found the rifle
00:22:38.340 and they're getting
00:22:38.960 the prints.
00:22:39.500 Are you stupid?
00:22:40.740 Are you that stupid?
00:22:41.960 Are you that dumb?
00:22:45.840 The man jumps
00:22:46.740 off the roof.
00:22:47.400 There's no rifle there.
00:22:48.660 Oh, it's in his backpack.
00:22:49.820 I just told you moron
00:22:51.080 that this rifle
00:22:52.740 doesn't break down
00:22:53.600 that easily.
00:22:55.100 And then it's supposed
00:22:55.880 to be reassembled
00:22:56.760 while he's on the run.
00:22:57.560 Wait, I'll stop now
00:22:58.340 and reassemble it
00:22:59.360 and leave it in the woods
00:23:00.040 in a box
00:23:00.720 wrapped in a towel.
00:23:03.160 He left breadcrumbs.
00:23:05.320 Oh, and the trans
00:23:06.680 anti, the trans stuff
00:23:08.460 on the cartridges.
00:23:09.960 Something is wrong
00:23:13.140 with this whole
00:23:14.260 picture.
00:23:17.600 I have persona non grata
00:23:18.740 in this White House.
00:23:19.700 I will tell you right now.
00:23:21.360 I flew with Donald Trump
00:23:22.580 in Air Force One.
00:23:24.280 I consider him
00:23:25.460 close to me.
00:23:27.240 I have not been able
00:23:28.360 to get near him
00:23:29.240 since this administration
00:23:31.460 took hold.
00:23:35.860 They have thrown me out.
00:23:37.800 They've castigated
00:23:38.900 and thrown me in the desert.
00:23:40.360 They don't want me
00:23:41.040 near them.
00:23:41.480 They don't want
00:23:41.920 real truth tellers
00:23:43.000 near them.
00:23:43.580 Sean Hannity,
00:23:44.400 immediately.
00:23:44.520 We got a couple.
00:23:45.280 We got a couple.
00:23:46.460 Okay, okay.
00:23:49.180 Phil,
00:23:50.540 the FBI's official position
00:23:52.080 because I can't,
00:23:53.320 because Posobiec and I
00:23:54.700 have gone through
00:23:55.120 this thing a million times.
00:23:56.480 Their official position
00:23:57.700 on Mike Savage
00:23:59.680 is that,
00:24:00.940 and I asked Grace
00:24:02.520 and Moe and others
00:24:03.140 on the team
00:24:03.580 to go back
00:24:04.040 and look at it again.
00:24:04.640 They say,
00:24:05.440 oh, he actually has the gun.
00:24:06.860 He drops the gun
00:24:07.600 off the roof
00:24:08.220 before he jumps.
00:24:09.720 I go, what?
00:24:10.880 I must have missed that.
00:24:13.840 Talk to me.
00:24:14.500 We got a couple minutes here.
00:24:15.820 I'm going to hold you
00:24:16.360 through the break.
00:24:17.920 You know the neighborhood,
00:24:19.900 right?
00:24:20.220 You're very familiar
00:24:21.040 with Utah Valley University
00:24:24.260 and the houses around it.
00:24:25.720 You've seen a lot
00:24:26.480 of these videos.
00:24:28.100 What does Phil Lyman say?
00:24:31.060 Well, you know,
00:24:31.580 when they say
00:24:31.940 they throw it
00:24:32.420 into the wooded area,
00:24:34.280 you're saying,
00:24:35.140 well, is it the wooded area
00:24:36.200 there by the house
00:24:37.640 or is it around
00:24:38.500 by the Brodericks
00:24:39.240 or around by the Steeles
00:24:40.220 or which wooded area?
00:24:41.600 Is it by the chicken coop?
00:24:42.740 Is it,
00:24:43.300 did he climb the fence?
00:24:44.340 You know,
00:24:44.520 all of these things.
00:24:45.240 So yeah,
00:24:45.560 it helps to have
00:24:46.460 a little bit of lay of the land,
00:24:47.500 but the video that I watched,
00:24:49.340 that was the first thing.
00:24:50.060 First of all,
00:24:51.040 coming into the campus
00:24:53.220 with his limp,
00:24:54.080 I thought there's not
00:24:55.040 a .30-06 down that pant leg.
00:24:57.520 And then when I saw
00:24:58.160 the gun with the scope on,
00:25:02.520 it's like,
00:25:02.780 well, there's definitely not a,
00:25:05.460 that's not down his pant leg.
00:25:06.600 And then somebody said,
00:25:07.120 well, maybe he assembled
00:25:08.120 it on the roof.
00:25:08.860 And just like Mike said,
00:25:10.060 I know enough about guns.
00:25:11.520 You can't even,
00:25:12.140 if you even bump the scope
00:25:13.320 on an old .30-06 like that,
00:25:16.080 you're going to be off.
00:25:17.740 You couldn't take that apart,
00:25:19.280 assemble it on the roof,
00:25:20.040 and then take one shot
00:25:21.060 and expect it to be
00:25:21.820 anywhere near the target.
00:25:23.440 And then,
00:25:23.640 so then taking,
00:25:25.540 you know,
00:25:25.840 jumping off the roof
00:25:27.360 and then reassembling it again,
00:25:28.720 it's the whole thing.
00:25:30.120 Actually,
00:25:30.440 the more they try to explain it,
00:25:31.760 the more it's like,
00:25:32.460 this is not true.
00:25:33.380 This is absolutely not true.
00:25:35.840 And yeah,
00:25:36.880 it does help to know the people
00:25:38.220 and to talk.
00:25:39.620 And then you go
00:25:40.780 and you visit
00:25:41.160 with your relatives
00:25:41.880 and they're saying,
00:25:43.060 yeah,
00:25:43.200 well,
00:25:43.340 this is the actual
00:25:44.080 ring camera
00:25:44.580 and you look at
00:25:45.700 the other neighbors
00:25:46.580 and it's like,
00:25:47.520 okay,
00:25:47.780 something is not adding up.
00:25:49.400 The other thing
00:25:49.820 that kind of bugged me
00:25:50.840 was that when they said
00:25:52.280 that they used AI
00:25:53.700 to enhance the picture
00:25:55.620 of the suspect.
00:25:58.260 And I'm looking
00:25:58.580 at the AI-enhanced version
00:25:59.940 of that,
00:26:00.280 it's like,
00:26:00.680 oh,
00:26:00.800 that looks a lot more
00:26:01.460 like Tyler Robinson
00:26:03.780 than the original.
00:26:05.280 In fact,
00:26:05.500 it looks like
00:26:05.960 two different people.
00:26:07.520 I mean,
00:26:08.060 honestly,
00:26:08.580 all of it,
00:26:09.120 Steve,
00:26:09.520 by the end,
00:26:10.040 you're saying,
00:26:11.120 I don't know
00:26:12.040 what the truth is,
00:26:12.860 but I do know
00:26:13.420 that we're not being
00:26:14.020 told the truth.
00:26:15.120 And then there's other,
00:26:15.840 there's other,
00:26:16.280 you know,
00:26:16.700 vehicles in the area.
00:26:17.700 There's clearly,
00:26:18.580 there's other communication
00:26:19.820 going.
00:26:20.280 Yeah.
00:26:22.240 Hang on one second.
00:26:23.380 We're going to take a break.
00:26:25.560 We've got Phil Aliman,
00:26:27.040 a candidate for governor.
00:26:28.080 I also want to talk
00:26:28.720 about Cox
00:26:29.420 and his responsibility
00:26:30.860 here with the administration
00:26:32.240 that is,
00:26:33.700 I don't know,
00:26:34.480 it's been out of control
00:26:35.360 for a while.
00:26:36.040 This is why he's
00:26:37.480 the most anti-Trump
00:26:39.800 governor of a red state
00:26:42.080 in the country.
00:26:42.760 And I don't know
00:26:43.540 how he was selected
00:26:45.040 to give all the presentation
00:26:46.240 he gave in that long speech
00:26:47.740 the other night
00:26:48.440 when it seems to me
00:26:49.760 the FBI and others,
00:26:51.140 Dan Bongino,
00:26:51.880 Kash Patel,
00:26:52.440 should have walked
00:26:52.880 through the basic facts
00:26:53.960 and he should have done
00:26:55.020 the partnership thing.
00:26:56.700 Anyway,
00:26:57.020 short commercial break.
00:26:57.920 Dr. Thayer's also with us
00:26:59.820 on Antifa
00:27:02.100 as a domestic terrorist organization.
00:27:03.880 Short break.
00:27:04.480 Back in a minute.
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00:33:21.820 So Phil,
00:33:22.580 you're part of this.
00:33:24.160 You know Charlie.
00:33:24.860 You're there.
00:33:25.960 You hear the thing,
00:33:26.800 the missile shock
00:33:27.620 but now you're seeing
00:33:29.280 how it's being
00:33:30.220 put out in dribs
00:33:31.440 and drabs.
00:33:32.680 You had the governor
00:33:33.420 the other day
00:33:33.980 when they said
00:33:34.560 the one question,
00:33:35.680 hey,
00:33:36.020 is anybody arrested
00:33:37.760 here besides the
00:33:38.680 potato?
00:33:39.560 Say,
00:33:39.760 oh no,
00:33:40.200 the roommate
00:33:40.720 and all day
00:33:41.720 today they were
00:33:42.300 talking about
00:33:43.000 oh no,
00:33:44.060 the roommate
00:33:44.600 he didn't know
00:33:45.440 anything about it.
00:33:46.780 They've said it
00:33:47.380 a hundred times
00:33:47.880 he didn't know
00:33:48.400 anything about it.
00:33:49.020 Well,
00:33:49.240 what do you mean
00:33:50.060 he didn't know
00:33:50.380 anything about it?
00:33:51.480 So he tells you
00:33:52.120 he doesn't know
00:33:52.440 anything about it
00:33:52.960 and he gets off
00:33:53.340 scot-free.
00:33:54.620 In fact,
00:33:55.000 do we have
00:33:55.360 the University
00:33:55.820 of Alabama
00:33:56.340 professor?
00:33:57.320 Can we play that?
00:33:58.140 Tell me when
00:33:58.800 that's ready to go
00:33:59.440 and we'll play that.
00:34:01.220 Well,
00:34:01.420 you've got the
00:34:01.820 Discord messages
00:34:04.540 and then,
00:34:05.000 oh no,
00:34:05.260 we don't have
00:34:05.560 the Discord messages.
00:34:06.620 Oh,
00:34:06.760 there were no
00:34:07.060 Discord messages.
00:34:08.340 It's like,
00:34:08.660 well,
00:34:08.720 which is it?
00:34:09.860 Let's at least
00:34:10.580 tell the truth here
00:34:11.400 and that's what
00:34:13.060 has been lacking
00:34:14.100 this whole time
00:34:14.600 and I don't want
00:34:16.200 to get ahead of you
00:34:16.760 on this,
00:34:17.460 Steve,
00:34:17.680 but watching,
00:34:19.520 I knew that
00:34:20.220 Spencer Cox
00:34:20.820 was not a fan
00:34:22.040 of President Trump.
00:34:23.380 I knew he was
00:34:23.900 not a fan
00:34:24.500 of Turning Point
00:34:25.140 and then people
00:34:25.800 were texting me
00:34:26.920 saying,
00:34:27.760 Spencer Cox
00:34:29.240 dislikes
00:34:30.140 Charlie Kirk
00:34:31.300 almost as much
00:34:31.920 as he dislikes
00:34:32.500 Trump
00:34:32.900 and then
00:34:34.100 to see
00:34:34.800 saying my friend
00:34:37.360 Charlie Kirk
00:34:38.540 says this
00:34:39.040 and he says this.
00:34:39.560 I mean,
00:34:39.800 it's okay,
00:34:40.620 but I don't want
00:34:41.060 to disrupt.
00:34:41.580 I don't want
00:34:41.860 to disrupt
00:34:42.280 the investigation.
00:34:43.320 I don't want
00:34:43.580 to disrupt
00:34:44.000 the efforts
00:34:45.120 and I was so glad
00:34:47.000 when you brought up
00:34:48.200 the hypocrisy there.
00:34:49.740 When he gets on
00:34:50.200 and says Charlie Kirk
00:34:50.940 said some
00:34:52.160 inflammatory things,
00:34:54.060 I was talking
00:34:54.840 to my wife
00:34:55.300 and I said,
00:34:55.740 yeah,
00:34:56.280 Christ is king
00:34:57.140 is what
00:34:57.560 is most inflammatory
00:34:58.700 and that's what
00:34:59.160 he said right
00:34:59.640 before he was shot.
00:35:01.140 Christ is king
00:35:01.860 and God is overall.
00:35:03.780 I mean,
00:35:03.960 if that's inflammatory
00:35:04.840 and it is
00:35:06.420 in this world,
00:35:07.660 then we know
00:35:08.300 what we're talking about.
00:35:09.200 We're talking
00:35:09.460 about good versus evil
00:35:10.360 and that's,
00:35:11.780 you know,
00:35:12.060 you have to step forward
00:35:13.840 and that's what
00:35:14.480 these kids,
00:35:14.920 I mean,
00:35:15.060 these kids are like
00:35:15.620 flocking to Turning Point
00:35:16.760 now.
00:35:17.020 They're flocking to church.
00:35:18.260 I've got,
00:35:18.920 I've had many,
00:35:20.040 many calls
00:35:20.460 from college age kids
00:35:21.420 saying,
00:35:21.820 I want to do something.
00:35:23.720 They were inspired
00:35:24.340 by Charlie Kirk
00:35:25.380 and if I can just,
00:35:28.100 just cut me off
00:35:28.920 if I'm going too far
00:35:29.700 but one of the things
00:35:30.440 that was really,
00:35:30.980 really present to me.
00:35:34.780 I looked
00:35:35.120 and I saw
00:35:36.120 and I thought,
00:35:36.920 I didn't know
00:35:37.480 the condition
00:35:37.920 of Charlie Kirk
00:35:38.420 but I thought,
00:35:39.400 this is probably bad.
00:35:40.620 Went down,
00:35:41.500 when I got closer
00:35:42.080 and running into the kids
00:35:43.160 and I was like,
00:35:43.540 yeah,
00:35:43.780 I saw what I saw.
00:35:46.040 The tragedy of that
00:35:48.480 was the 3,000
00:35:49.900 innocent children,
00:35:52.020 mostly innocent children,
00:35:54.080 college age kids,
00:35:55.320 you know,
00:35:55.520 young people
00:35:56.340 who witnessed something
00:35:57.580 really,
00:35:58.360 really traumatic
00:35:58.920 and that could go
00:35:59.920 either way,
00:36:00.580 you know,
00:36:00.960 and God,
00:36:01.540 God is going to do
00:36:02.340 something with that.
00:36:05.260 The,
00:36:05.720 you know,
00:36:07.760 the broken hearts
00:36:08.600 that are out there
00:36:09.740 right now
00:36:10.060 are producing miracles
00:36:11.580 in the lives
00:36:12.040 of these kids.
00:36:12.680 So,
00:36:13.160 Charlie wanted to have
00:36:13.880 a major impact
00:36:14.520 on their lives
00:36:15.480 and he had
00:36:16.100 a major impact
00:36:17.660 at least on the kids
00:36:18.760 that were there
00:36:19.300 and so many others
00:36:20.580 that are looking at this
00:36:22.260 and so when you take
00:36:23.900 a lion like a Charlie Kirk
00:36:26.620 and Spencer Cox
00:36:28.300 comes in with his,
00:36:29.520 you know,
00:36:29.740 little disparaging comments,
00:36:31.080 the contrast,
00:36:31.880 I think,
00:36:32.080 is more than people
00:36:32.820 can reconcile
00:36:34.240 in their minds
00:36:34.940 and they don't,
00:36:37.120 they're not giving Spencer Cox
00:36:38.300 the benefit of the doubt,
00:36:39.220 which they shouldn't
00:36:39.900 because it's dangerous.
00:36:40.940 This is the thing
00:36:41.760 about bad policy
00:36:42.760 and bad government
00:36:43.440 is it hurts people.
00:36:45.180 It hurts people really badly.
00:36:46.260 You end up with,
00:36:46.960 you know,
00:36:48.140 parents who are helping
00:36:49.440 their kids to transition
00:36:50.440 and supporting mental illness
00:36:52.720 and things like that
00:36:53.920 and in Utah
00:36:54.400 where, you know,
00:36:54.900 just if we were
00:36:55.480 the first state
00:36:56.140 out there with DEI,
00:36:57.560 embracing DEI,
00:36:58.740 you know,
00:36:59.040 to the max,
00:37:00.160 embracing illegal immigration.
00:37:03.320 I love what President Trump
00:37:04.940 is talking about
00:37:05.440 these RICO cases.
00:37:06.340 I hope that we can get
00:37:07.140 somebody looking into
00:37:08.560 some of the deals
00:37:09.260 that were made here
00:37:09.860 with in Utah
00:37:12.240 and I'm not talking,
00:37:13.100 I'm not talking uninformed.
00:37:15.240 I've been in the legislature
00:37:16.060 for six years.
00:37:16.800 I was a county commissioner
00:37:17.560 before that.
00:37:18.280 These are the things
00:37:19.360 that brought me
00:37:21.280 into politics
00:37:21.960 is to find out
00:37:22.620 why do we make
00:37:23.260 such bad decisions?
00:37:24.200 Why does government
00:37:24.760 make decisions
00:37:25.480 that hurt the people
00:37:26.500 that they're intended
00:37:27.680 to serve?
00:37:28.300 And this is the questions
00:37:29.220 that I think
00:37:30.120 this generation,
00:37:31.340 you know,
00:37:31.500 when they call me
00:37:32.040 and they say,
00:37:32.380 hey,
00:37:32.420 I wonder what I could do.
00:37:33.200 I say,
00:37:33.400 this is your time.
00:37:34.200 This is your generation.
00:37:35.660 The future is yours.
00:37:36.820 It's like,
00:37:37.480 and honestly,
00:37:38.560 it's being delivered
00:37:39.820 to them,
00:37:40.720 you know,
00:37:41.800 in a really,
00:37:42.500 you know,
00:37:43.100 profound,
00:37:44.140 profound way.
00:37:45.540 You know,
00:37:45.860 we talk about,
00:37:47.040 you know,
00:37:47.220 we talk about the idea
00:37:47.920 of reverence.
00:37:49.020 Reverence is standing firm
00:37:50.340 and it's changing.
00:37:51.840 And Utah has a,
00:37:53.020 I think Utah has a problem
00:37:54.080 with this.
00:37:54.500 It's like,
00:37:54.780 oh,
00:37:55.480 you know,
00:37:55.760 being kind,
00:37:56.800 being agreeable.
00:37:57.900 It's like,
00:37:58.120 well,
00:37:58.300 who are you kind to?
00:37:59.260 Are you kind to the downtrodden
00:38:01.480 or are you kind to the people
00:38:03.160 who are trying to dominate
00:38:04.300 your friends and neighbors?
00:38:05.760 It's like,
00:38:06.120 stand up,
00:38:07.100 speak up.
00:38:07.640 This was Charlie's
00:38:09.020 whole message
00:38:10.220 and it just,
00:38:11.920 you know,
00:38:12.420 resonated.
00:38:12.840 To Cox,
00:38:16.980 I called for an investigation
00:38:17.980 day because Cox
00:38:19.180 was the most,
00:38:19.880 he's more radical
00:38:20.620 than,
00:38:21.800 except for his buddy
00:38:22.880 Gerald Polis
00:38:23.740 in Colorado
00:38:24.560 and Newsom
00:38:25.500 in California.
00:38:28.240 He would be
00:38:29.000 in the top five
00:38:29.740 most radical
00:38:30.340 governors
00:38:31.240 in the country
00:38:32.520 with his embrace
00:38:33.320 of DEI
00:38:33.980 and transgender.
00:38:35.340 I remember today
00:38:36.460 when he,
00:38:36.800 I think he was doing
00:38:37.340 a Zoom call
00:38:38.100 and talk about
00:38:39.200 his pronouns,
00:38:40.060 it's all fine.
00:38:40.820 I mean,
00:38:41.020 he's pushed this,
00:38:42.540 his,
00:38:42.920 and I think
00:38:43.900 his administration,
00:38:45.900 you know,
00:38:46.100 his wife,
00:38:46.660 Abby Cox,
00:38:47.300 is involved in this SEL
00:38:48.600 and the empathy crisis.
00:38:50.660 They've goaded this on.
00:38:52.100 This is why
00:38:52.580 that whole part of it
00:38:53.900 has got to be
00:38:54.460 thoroughly investigated.
00:38:55.520 We've got to get
00:38:55.920 to the bottom.
00:38:57.080 And today,
00:38:57.720 Gateway Pundit
00:38:58.580 and then Naomi Wolf
00:38:59.760 and Daily Clout,
00:39:00.900 as we're talking right here,
00:39:02.840 they're putting up stories now
00:39:04.180 on social media
00:39:05.560 that looks like
00:39:06.180 there were certain accounts
00:39:07.220 that knew something
00:39:07.840 was going to happen.
00:39:09.160 This did not come as a surprise.
00:39:10.380 It backs up Phil Lyman
00:39:11.600 sitting there going,
00:39:12.300 hey,
00:39:12.820 a couple of girls
00:39:13.580 dropped the F-bomb
00:39:14.500 and they weren't afraid.
00:39:16.060 They were kind of saying,
00:39:16.920 hey, suckers,
00:39:18.140 you know,
00:39:18.380 F you.
00:39:19.380 And there's some other people
00:39:20.280 out there
00:39:20.640 which normal human reaction,
00:39:22.680 even from a warrior,
00:39:23.980 would be,
00:39:24.760 I'm going to get out of here
00:39:25.600 for a minute
00:39:26.100 until I see if this is going
00:39:27.060 to be a mass shooting,
00:39:27.940 regroup,
00:39:28.400 and then we'll think about it.
00:39:29.720 People were sitting there
00:39:30.680 after a bang like that
00:39:32.120 that sounds like gunfire,
00:39:34.020 potentially like gunfire,
00:39:35.360 and you see Charlie Kirk get hit.
00:39:38.560 It means something.
00:39:39.540 And I think you've got to
00:39:40.340 get to the bottom
00:39:41.080 of the entire apparatus
00:39:43.920 that brought this up.
00:39:45.320 And nobody in this audience
00:39:46.460 right now,
00:39:47.000 I will tell you,
00:39:48.220 believes that this kid,
00:39:49.840 until they're shown
00:39:50.780 hard evidence,
00:39:52.100 is actually the guy
00:39:53.040 that pulled the trigger.
00:39:54.500 Maybe he did,
00:39:55.700 but the evidence here
00:39:56.600 has got to be put forward
00:39:57.500 because people think
00:39:58.360 that there's something
00:39:58.980 much darker going on here.
00:40:01.220 Phil,
00:40:01.440 we've got to bounce,
00:40:02.120 but I don't want to have you
00:40:02.700 back on because of your knowledge
00:40:04.380 of the,
00:40:05.280 we'll go through the videotape
00:40:06.440 maybe together
00:40:07.060 because it's very confusing.
00:40:08.480 And this is why
00:40:08.860 I've been advocating,
00:40:09.800 not just to designate
00:40:11.300 a terrorist organization
00:40:12.600 so you can get
00:40:13.280 a serious investigation going,
00:40:15.660 but,
00:40:15.860 and don't treat it
00:40:16.500 as a one-off murder
00:40:17.840 or an assassination.
00:40:19.840 But also,
00:40:20.600 you've got to bring
00:40:21.080 all the forces to bear here,
00:40:23.060 and we've got to get
00:40:23.900 a timeline,
00:40:24.740 and you've got to move
00:40:25.520 with alacrity
00:40:26.440 to make sure that
00:40:27.340 this doesn't turn
00:40:28.100 into some sort of
00:40:28.800 like grassy knoll,
00:40:30.200 right?
00:40:30.620 Right.
00:40:30.800 As you were saying,
00:40:31.520 hey,
00:40:31.720 what farce are you talking about?
00:40:33.100 What would you talk about?
00:40:33.840 Where do people go
00:40:34.980 for your social media,
00:40:36.680 Phil?
00:40:36.800 Where do people go
00:40:37.460 to get you?
00:40:39.220 I'm on X.
00:40:40.340 Probably the best spot
00:40:41.260 is on X.
00:40:41.880 It's Phil underscore Lyman,
00:40:43.520 and that's where,
00:40:45.000 I think that's where
00:40:45.600 all of the discussion
00:40:46.340 is happening.
00:40:48.380 Yeah.
00:40:48.940 And the,
00:40:49.920 you know,
00:40:50.220 just encouraging people
00:40:52.880 to ask these questions.
00:40:53.780 There's nothing wrong
00:40:54.540 with asking a question
00:40:55.540 of something
00:40:56.420 that you observed,
00:40:57.720 and we've been conditioned
00:40:59.140 to like not even
00:41:00.260 ask the question,
00:41:01.060 and how dare you
00:41:01.600 ask the question?
00:41:02.200 It's like,
00:41:02.340 well,
00:41:02.420 just give an answer.
00:41:03.160 And this is what
00:41:04.060 I've gone through
00:41:04.560 for so long in Utah.
00:41:06.000 It's like,
00:41:06.220 how dare you ask
00:41:06.980 that question?
00:41:08.200 Whether it's about elections
00:41:09.340 or about immigration
00:41:10.560 or about any,
00:41:11.300 you know,
00:41:11.560 water management
00:41:12.260 or forest management
00:41:13.040 or rain
00:41:13.540 or any of the other
00:41:14.300 climate issues,
00:41:15.740 you cannot ask the question.
00:41:17.180 And even as a legislator,
00:41:18.280 when I would ask the question
00:41:19.240 of, you know,
00:41:20.000 like the lieutenant governor,
00:41:20.860 can we look at voter rolls?
00:41:21.820 Can we look at these things?
00:41:23.080 The answer is not,
00:41:24.480 you know,
00:41:24.680 we'd rather not.
00:41:25.240 It was like,
00:41:25.640 how dare you?
00:41:26.240 How dare you ask a question
00:41:28.040 and question the government?
00:41:29.420 In fact,
00:41:29.620 that's what they said
00:41:30.460 is don't question the government,
00:41:32.240 question the doubters.
00:41:33.020 Or doubt the doubters.
00:41:34.860 And this is a different generation.
00:41:37.140 We're living in a different time
00:41:38.140 and I'm excited about
00:41:39.080 the reality
00:41:40.400 that people are forced
00:41:41.620 to confront,
00:41:42.520 I guess.
00:41:44.740 No,
00:41:45.200 this is what Charlie Kirk,
00:41:46.240 this is the legacy of,
00:41:47.360 one of the legacies
00:41:48.100 of Charlie Kirk.
00:41:49.180 Phil,
00:41:49.680 thank you.
00:41:50.200 I'll call you after the show
00:41:51.400 and we'll get organized on this.
00:41:54.180 Thank you.
00:41:54.720 Thanks, Steve.
00:41:55.660 If I can ask,
00:41:56.560 if we,
00:41:56.900 if we can pull up
00:41:57.660 before I bring it there,
00:41:58.360 can we get President Trump's
00:41:59.440 just response
00:42:00.140 to saying today
00:42:01.260 the terror organization,
00:42:03.660 when that's ready,
00:42:04.700 I'll bring in,
00:42:05.600 like I said,
00:42:06.420 Gateway Pundit
00:42:07.420 and then Naomi Wolf
00:42:09.280 independently,
00:42:09.940 they're coming,
00:42:10.260 and I talked to Poso last night,
00:42:12.120 there was a lot of stuff
00:42:12.940 on these Twitter feeds
00:42:14.620 and others
00:42:15.180 that look very suspicious.
00:42:16.820 I think Andy Ngo,
00:42:18.460 who's done a great job
00:42:19.760 of tracking this one,
00:42:21.080 the big,
00:42:22.100 a guy like a Nick Sorter
00:42:23.100 putting up great information
00:42:24.220 all the time
00:42:24.800 on X
00:42:27.100 or on Twitter,
00:42:29.420 was saying
00:42:30.400 and people were,
00:42:30.960 hey,
00:42:31.320 they got all these accounts,
00:42:32.940 some are being pulled down,
00:42:34.180 but it seemed like
00:42:35.480 it wasn't a surprise to them.
00:42:37.200 Phil Lyman
00:42:37.720 is a direct eyewitness
00:42:40.160 right there in that thing
00:42:42.120 in the building
00:42:42.560 right next to it
00:42:43.100 and the two young girls,
00:42:45.080 two young college students,
00:42:46.320 they're not running
00:42:46.840 for their life.
00:42:48.220 They're looking around
00:42:49.000 at the Charlie Kirk,
00:42:50.420 at the Turning Point people
00:42:51.500 scrambling
00:42:52.100 and Charlie shot
00:42:53.240 and they're going,
00:42:53.800 F you.
00:42:55.520 Just saying.
00:42:57.460 And he said
00:42:58.080 there's other groups
00:42:58.700 that didn't look like
00:42:59.480 they were shocked at all
00:43:01.640 and he had that one guy
00:43:02.880 that said,
00:43:03.500 oh,
00:43:03.580 I was doing it
00:43:04.080 to distract the shooter,
00:43:05.080 which is a bald-faced lie
00:43:06.220 that's sitting up,
00:43:07.260 jumping up
00:43:07.620 and down,
00:43:08.260 you know,
00:43:08.640 acting like a goofball,
00:43:10.160 like celebrating.
00:43:11.160 Ought to get to the bottom
00:43:11.940 of all of it.
00:43:12.420 And like I said,
00:43:13.000 Discord,
00:43:14.020 if the guys are in Discord
00:43:15.440 and they knew it
00:43:16.100 and now they're saying
00:43:16.680 the guy may have confessed,
00:43:18.180 they're the moral equivalent,
00:43:19.860 they're the exact equivalent
00:43:20.940 of the Boston Marathon bombers,
00:43:24.260 the younger guys,
00:43:25.380 the ones still in prison,
00:43:27.020 his roommates that for,
00:43:28.820 you know,
00:43:29.040 a couple of days
00:43:29.800 did not turn,
00:43:30.680 knew it was him
00:43:31.780 as soon as the footage
00:43:32.520 went up
00:43:32.960 and failed to tell the police
00:43:34.520 you're an accessory
00:43:35.080 after the fact.
00:43:36.720 So that's why
00:43:37.200 this investigation,
00:43:38.160 I hope it,
00:43:38.640 I know it's broadening out.
00:43:41.520 And let me play this
00:43:42.640 and I'm going to bring in
00:43:43.120 Dr. Bradley Thayer.
00:43:43.920 Let's go and play the clip.
00:43:44.620 Given with all the
00:43:46.800 that's going on
00:43:47.680 with Charlie Kirk's assassination
00:43:49.720 and the left wing,
00:43:51.200 a lot of left wing
00:43:52.240 violence going on,
00:43:54.040 do you have plans
00:43:54.760 and actions
00:43:55.100 is a great opportunity
00:43:56.560 with all these people?
00:43:58.260 Do you plan on designating
00:44:00.020 Antifa finally,
00:44:01.600 a domestic terror organization?
00:44:04.620 Well, it's something
00:44:06.260 I would do, yeah.
00:44:07.140 If I have support
00:44:07.940 from the people back here,
00:44:09.140 I think we'd start
00:44:09.860 with Pam, I think.
00:44:10.800 But if you give me,
00:44:13.020 I would do that 100%.
00:44:14.580 And others also,
00:44:15.600 by the way.
00:44:16.080 But Antifa is terrible.
00:44:18.980 Are there other groups
00:44:19.760 that you can make up?
00:44:20.480 There are other groups,
00:44:21.260 yeah, there are other groups.
00:44:22.280 We have some pretty
00:44:22.880 radical groups
00:44:23.640 and they got away
00:44:24.240 with murder.
00:44:25.440 And also,
00:44:26.180 I've been speaking
00:44:27.280 to the Attorney General
00:44:28.320 about bringing Rico
00:44:29.980 against some of the people
00:44:31.200 that you've been reading about
00:44:32.220 that have been putting up
00:44:33.180 millions and millions
00:44:34.140 of dollars for agitation.
00:44:36.080 These aren't protests.
00:44:37.140 When we have time,
00:44:37.780 we'll play more of it.
00:44:39.660 We'll play more of it.
00:44:40.920 He's talking right there
00:44:41.820 about Portland, Oregon.
00:44:43.520 Dr. Thayer,
00:44:44.060 you helped us work
00:44:44.740 through a lot of the issues
00:44:45.560 over the weekend
00:44:46.160 about exactly this topic.
00:44:48.420 Tell us why it's very important.
00:44:49.820 The President says,
00:44:50.560 hey, I'm open to do it.
00:44:51.520 If the guys around me
00:44:52.160 want to do it,
00:44:52.620 I want to do it
00:44:53.300 and I will do it.
00:44:55.080 Why is it important for us
00:44:57.320 on Monday,
00:44:59.580 the 15th of September
00:45:00.600 in the year of our Lord,
00:45:01.400 2025,
00:45:02.340 just a couple of days
00:45:03.260 after the assassination
00:45:04.900 and cold blood
00:45:05.680 of Charlie Kirk
00:45:06.340 for us to do this,
00:45:07.560 sir,
00:45:07.760 to help this investigation?
00:45:10.120 Well, Steve,
00:45:10.780 all thanks to you
00:45:11.900 because you've been
00:45:12.520 driving this hard as well.
00:45:15.260 It's so important
00:45:16.620 to take these steps.
00:45:18.420 First,
00:45:18.980 because it's the recognition
00:45:19.900 of reality.
00:45:21.860 Terrorism is the use of violence
00:45:23.420 or the threat of violence,
00:45:25.080 especially against civilians
00:45:26.340 in pursuit of political goals.
00:45:28.320 And that's what Antifa is doing,
00:45:30.100 advancing their political objective
00:45:32.100 of overthrowing
00:45:33.740 the constitutional republic
00:45:35.400 that is the United States,
00:45:37.900 conducting assassinations,
00:45:40.620 inspiring other individuals
00:45:42.520 to act in similar ways.
00:45:44.940 So this is a recognition
00:45:46.240 of reality
00:45:47.220 that Antifa is, in fact,
00:45:49.220 a terrorist organization.
00:45:50.580 Should have been done
00:45:51.380 a long time ago.
00:45:52.480 It's extremely important.
00:45:54.340 It's being done now.
00:45:55.740 Secondly,
00:45:56.620 we now need to move into
00:45:58.140 what is the counterterrorism strategy?
00:46:00.720 What are we going to be doing?
00:46:02.200 What are the tools
00:46:03.580 that we're going to be employing
00:46:05.000 against Antifa?
00:46:06.180 And this has to be,
00:46:07.280 first,
00:46:07.540 a whole-of-government response.
00:46:09.640 It's going to require
00:46:10.560 everybody who was in that room
00:46:12.140 in the Oval Office
00:46:13.100 this afternoon.
00:46:14.900 It's also going to require
00:46:16.520 the American citizenry,
00:46:18.540 right,
00:46:18.700 what's often called
00:46:19.360 a whole-of-society response,
00:46:21.880 to reject these guys,
00:46:24.460 right,
00:46:24.700 to reject Antifa,
00:46:26.660 to recognize what they are.
00:46:29.100 It's also going to require
00:46:31.300 whole-of-government
00:46:32.240 and whole-of-society,
00:46:33.600 because this is going to be like,
00:46:34.800 you know,
00:46:35.320 Schliemann excavating Troy,
00:46:37.380 right?
00:46:37.620 You're going to have to go through
00:46:38.520 layer after layer
00:46:39.860 after layer
00:46:40.880 of this stuff
00:46:42.560 to find the international
00:46:44.340 and the domestic
00:46:45.620 connections
00:46:47.240 that are certainly present there.
00:46:49.580 International are going to be
00:46:50.820 the CCP,
00:46:52.160 Chinese Communist Party,
00:46:53.540 and other actors.
00:46:54.860 domestically,
00:46:56.220 it's going to involve
00:46:58.500 major Democratic donors
00:47:00.500 and law firms
00:47:02.660 and major actors
00:47:05.040 in the Democratic Party
00:47:07.040 as well.
00:47:08.740 So it's going to require
00:47:09.940 tremendous amounts
00:47:11.360 of effort
00:47:12.660 to do it.
00:47:14.320 But it begins with this step
00:47:16.000 and with the president's
00:47:17.000 attention and direction
00:47:18.460 to develop an effective
00:47:20.280 counterterrorism strategy
00:47:21.940 to roll these guys up
00:47:24.300 as they need to be
00:47:26.320 in order to remove
00:47:28.880 their threat,
00:47:30.020 but to remove
00:47:30.880 equally
00:47:31.640 the bigger threat
00:47:33.180 of how
00:47:33.820 the Chinese Communist Party,
00:47:35.880 how other
00:47:36.580 really nefarious actors
00:47:38.740 internationally
00:47:40.480 and domestically
00:47:41.440 are using their influence,
00:47:43.240 hiding behind Antifa,
00:47:44.900 hiding behind
00:47:45.560 front organizations
00:47:46.800 to undermine
00:47:48.760 our constitutional republic.
00:47:50.620 time to get this out
00:47:52.160 in the open,
00:47:53.380 to lift the rug,
00:47:54.620 to find out
00:47:55.320 what's underneath here,
00:47:56.980 and to begin
00:47:58.100 dealing with it
00:48:00.160 and cleaning it up.
00:48:03.020 And as Tate stressed,
00:48:05.080 remember from last week,
00:48:06.820 right,
00:48:07.020 when you begin
00:48:07.520 to put pressure on this,
00:48:09.000 you're going to be able
00:48:09.720 to see that it
00:48:10.720 is going to fracture,
00:48:12.540 I think,
00:48:13.660 pretty clearly.
00:48:14.760 But equally,
00:48:15.360 it's going to be alarming
00:48:16.660 to the American people
00:48:18.100 to see how this occurred,
00:48:21.060 how they were able
00:48:21.860 to do it so effectively,
00:48:23.160 and really the cavalcade
00:48:26.620 of bad actors,
00:48:28.180 evil actors
00:48:29.120 who are behind Antifa
00:48:31.020 and supporting it,
00:48:33.320 allowing its recruitment,
00:48:34.680 allowing its communication,
00:48:36.640 directing it,
00:48:37.960 and providing its training.
00:48:39.800 Dr. Thayer,
00:48:43.340 we've got to bounce.
00:48:44.120 Where do people go?
00:48:45.020 I know you've been
00:48:45.440 writing about this
00:48:46.300 and talking about this.
00:48:47.520 Where do people go
00:48:48.160 to get your thoughts
00:48:49.040 on this topic?
00:48:51.700 Steve,
00:48:52.180 everybody can reach me
00:48:53.000 at Brad Thayer on X
00:48:54.180 or Bradley Thayer
00:48:55.060 at Getter and Truth.
00:48:57.020 And thanks so much,
00:48:58.060 Steve,
00:48:58.340 for advancing this along.
00:49:02.440 No, Dr. Thayer,
00:49:03.500 the intellectual,
00:49:04.940 you did the heavy
00:49:06.140 intellectual lift,
00:49:07.040 so thank you, sir.
00:49:07.680 Appreciate you.
00:49:08.180 Thanks, Steve.
00:49:09.980 Dr. Bradley Thayer.
00:49:11.860 He's absolutely correct.
00:49:13.040 And you've got to get
00:49:13.860 down to the layers.
00:49:14.640 It's not the first level.
00:49:16.740 They've got to color code it.
00:49:18.120 You know,
00:49:18.500 I made a film about this.
00:49:20.520 I made a film about this
00:49:22.280 in 2012.
00:49:25.320 Andrew Breitbart
00:49:25.900 was actually the star
00:49:26.820 of the film.
00:49:28.280 Andrew Breitbart
00:49:28.840 passed away
00:49:29.460 during the production
00:49:30.280 of the film,
00:49:31.280 but we were able
00:49:32.020 to finish it.
00:49:33.060 And actually,
00:49:33.540 Mark Cuban's company,
00:49:35.380 the time distribution company,
00:49:36.560 put it out,
00:49:38.440 and it was about,
00:49:39.960 back then,
00:49:40.660 the Occupy movement
00:49:41.980 would metastasize
00:49:43.680 into Antifa,
00:49:46.080 very dangerous.
00:49:47.040 Andrew was an expert
00:49:47.960 on this,
00:49:48.540 as Charlie Kirk was.
00:49:49.500 So,
00:49:49.900 quite ironic
00:49:51.540 that, what,
00:49:52.460 13 years later,
00:49:53.580 we're still dealing
00:49:54.900 with this.
00:49:55.380 But I think
00:49:55.800 to get to the bottom
00:49:56.860 of it,
00:49:57.220 of who the
00:49:58.060 most important layer
00:49:59.840 is,
00:50:00.080 the financiers,
00:50:00.960 the politicians,
00:50:01.860 the media types,
00:50:02.800 there's going to be
00:50:03.220 some media folks
00:50:03.900 rounded up in this.
00:50:04.700 Oh,
00:50:06.540 yeah.
00:50:07.220 Wait for it.
00:50:08.180 Wait for it.
00:50:09.300 There's some media people
00:50:10.260 up to their neck
00:50:11.300 with this revolutionary
00:50:12.660 activity
00:50:13.400 of trying to
00:50:15.240 essentially destroy
00:50:16.280 the United States
00:50:17.340 of America.
00:50:18.120 And what they pulled off
00:50:19.460 is the assassination
00:50:20.180 of one of the
00:50:21.320 most important people
00:50:23.100 in the country,
00:50:25.060 and particularly
00:50:25.480 in politics,
00:50:26.360 but in his generation,
00:50:27.960 the leader of his generation,
00:50:29.500 and a guy who I think
00:50:30.680 very potentially
00:50:32.200 would have been
00:50:32.660 a future president
00:50:33.420 of the United States.
00:50:34.080 They knew what
00:50:35.220 they were doing
00:50:35.900 when they assassinated
00:50:37.300 Charlie Kirk,
00:50:37.940 and you just heard
00:50:38.380 an eyewitness,
00:50:39.640 and now you've got
00:50:40.260 Gateway Pundit.
00:50:40.980 Others will be
00:50:41.500 curating these stories
00:50:42.300 overnight.
00:50:43.000 Tomorrow we're going to
00:50:43.480 have a much more
00:50:44.180 detailed presentation
00:50:45.440 of this,
00:50:45.880 but there are a lot
00:50:46.380 of people
00:50:46.780 in that kind of
00:50:48.080 radical transgender
00:50:49.040 movement that were
00:50:49.860 not that surprised,
00:50:50.840 and some of this
00:50:51.260 LGBTQ that were
00:50:53.600 not surprised at all
00:50:55.200 about what happened
00:50:56.280 on September 10th
00:50:57.960 in the year of our
00:50:58.780 Lord,
00:50:59.460 2025.
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00:52:13.060 at 10 a.m.
00:52:13.840 Eastern Daylight
00:52:14.600 Time.
00:52:14.940 I promise you
00:52:15.760 this show
00:52:16.280 will be on
00:52:17.640 fire.
00:52:19.140 See you then.
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