Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 852： Wheelchair-Bound Lay Evangelist In France Martyred On Air While Livestreaming — MSM Totally Silent

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

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00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

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00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:54.000 Welcome. This is Steve Bannon's War Room. Ben Harnwell here at the helm.

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00:01:00.000 Folks, this is the first show we've taped since Charlie Kirk was struck down, gunned down last week.

00:01:11.000 Let's bring up Jenny and Frank now because we've decided what we're going to do is we'll open this show today with a prayer for Charlie, for the repose of his soul, for his wife and children, for everyone at Real America's Voice and everyone at the RAV family.

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00:01:30.000 We'll say a quick prayer in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Amen.

00:01:34.000 Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

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00:02:18.000 God will draw a greater good out of that horrendous evil that was committed.

00:02:26.740 You know what, Jenny, let's play a quick clip of you speaking in Belfast,

00:02:36.640 right on the subject of Charlie, and then we'll come back in here

00:02:41.620 to more analysis from you later on in the show.

00:02:44.400 Woke ideology and its intolerance of free speech is a mortal threat to us all.

00:02:55.880 The woke left's decade-long campaign to cancel, demonize, un-person its political opponents

00:03:03.740 has culminated in the political assassination of one of the most effective political organizers

00:03:09.140 and communicators of our age.

00:03:11.780 Charlie Kirk lived for and died for free speech.

00:03:17.200 The woke left cannot live with free speech, because free speech unmasks all its lies,

00:03:23.360 contradictions and hate.

00:03:25.260 Jenny, I couldn't have been prouder of watching you deliver that.

00:03:30.260 I listened to the whole thing.

00:03:31.980 We'll ask Frank if you'd kindly put the full link up on Canon 212.

00:03:36.680 Couldn't have been prouder of hearing what you spoke, what you wrote for that event before hundreds of people in Belfast.

00:03:45.900 And they picked the war room's Jenny Holland to open that conference. 0.99

00:03:53.400 You spoke very well, very beautifully about Charlie.

00:03:55.960 Thank you very much.

00:03:56.520 And I think you picked the salient points.

00:04:00.560 So that 10th of September, the horrific date that it is, and it wasn't only Charlie who was martyred on that day.

00:04:09.460 There was another guy in France, an Iraqi Christian, who was killed in Odium Fide as well, in hatred of the faith as well in this case.

00:04:23.440 Frank, you've got the details here.

00:04:24.820 What happened in France?

00:04:27.260 This is a Chaldean Christian, which is a Catholic that had escaped ISIS in Iraq with his sister, and he was living in France.

00:04:37.720 And he was, I guess what we call a podcaster.

00:04:41.200 He would stream live on TikTok, and he would talk about Catholic things.

00:04:45.340 And he was, everybody said he was very, you know, mild mannered, he had no enemies.

00:04:53.780 This was, you know, this wasn't, like Charlie, a huge, big, enormous thing.

00:04:57.380 This was an average, everyday Catholic doing what he thought he could do to help.

00:05:03.240 And he was, there was, somebody followed him to his house and stabbed him in the neck, like we've seen lately.

00:05:11.680 And he actually died on camera, bleeding.

00:05:17.880 And he, while he was on camera, his sister was out shopping, and she didn't have her phone, I suppose, and she didn't know.

00:05:25.920 But all kinds of people were texting, saying that they saw him, and by the time the people arrived, after everybody was crying to get a hold of him, he was already dead.

00:05:35.260 But the police, and I think this is very typical, they said they don't really, they don't really have any leads.

00:05:40.580 They have video.

00:05:41.380 Somebody has video of him in a hoodie and a dark outfit, but they don't have any leads, and they don't want to say anything about it.

00:05:47.940 And I think that the media has been, you know, sort of kind of quiet about this, kind of mute about it.

00:05:53.620 He had received threats in the past, and, you know, it's just, I think it's typical, and politically, Marine Le Pen, who is really probably the most popular politician in France, but is not in power.

00:06:08.080 She condemned it, but, and the, I think the foreign minister, the interior minister, he mentioned it.

00:06:16.040 But, you know, there, yeah, Bruno, Bruno Ritalo, he talked about protecting Christian places of worship, but very, I think very little is being done about this.

00:06:27.180 It was mentioned at Alatea Magazine.

00:06:29.860 It's, it's, it's something I think that is a product of all this immigration that the Pope has called a sin to resist. 1.00

00:06:37.760 But this is not a new thing.

00:06:40.260 This has been happening for a long, long time.

00:06:42.440 The, the attacks are up 13% just from last year, and they were terrible.

00:06:45.760 There's 400 anti-Christian acts that are recorded, mostly vandalism.

00:06:49.980 So this man, in a small way, just like Charlie Kirk, was brave in the face of what was coming.

00:06:55.480 It wasn't like he was a convert.

00:06:57.680 It doesn't mention that he was a convert.

00:06:59.140 He was just a Christian who had a public witness.

00:07:01.800 And for that, he was killed.

00:07:04.400 And it's just a matter of the numbers, I believe.

00:07:08.100 As far as I understand, he also, sorry, he also, uh, on TikTok in Arabic.

00:07:13.820 So he was discussing the Christian faith to his audience in Arabic, which I think no doubt was, um, a factor or certainly a provocation in, in a religious sense.

00:07:26.000 Um, not that we, not that it's been confirmed who killed him.

00:07:30.700 Yes, it's true.

00:07:31.800 He was, he was preaching actually to his own people and he was very brave.

00:07:37.660 Yes.

00:07:38.440 What do we know?

00:07:39.400 What do we know about this, this, um, this heroic martyrs, um, executioner?

00:07:48.920 What do we know about the guy who killed him?

00:07:51.280 All they, all they know so far is that he was just, you know, he was just a guy wearing dark outfit and a hoodie.

00:07:57.200 They see the videos, but they haven't made any, actually a statement with any kind of information.

00:08:02.000 About what they think, uh, it is.

00:08:04.280 And I, I'm, I'm, I wonder how they even prosecuted.

00:08:06.660 I read so many stories about them just letting people off the hook who do terrible, Muslims off the hook who do terrible things. 1.00

00:08:14.520 Um, you know, I, I don't know, I don't know what kind of prosecution will actually happen.

00:08:18.740 You know, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the leadership in France has such a low rating.

00:08:27.160 Macron's is 15%.

00:08:28.780 He'll hold on to power at all costs.

00:08:30.640 This is, this is really a, uh, this is really a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, persecution of the Catholic people.

00:08:37.140 And, and it's not being, it's not being handled politically at all.

00:08:41.840 The reports I read said that he was, sorry, the reports I read said that the attacker was waiting for him.

00:08:48.220 He was laying in wait for him to return to his, uh, residence in an apartment building.

00:08:54.180 So it sounds from that, that it may, it was certainly targeted.

00:08:57.480 Yes, and it was something that he would, he walked in front of the camera after being stabbed.

00:09:03.140 That's what it sounds like.

00:09:04.280 It sounds like it happened.

00:09:05.420 You know, he followed him on the way.

00:09:06.740 Well, I read that he followed him, but he was waiting for him.

00:09:09.860 Yeah.

00:09:10.920 You know, the Pope just made a statement recently to the people at Lampedusa Island that are all flooding into Europe saying that he hopes to be with them soon.

00:09:20.360 The powers that be are going to permit more of this.

00:09:23.880 Tell me more about this.

00:09:24.880 You, you mentioned that Pope Leo said that resisting immigration, what we call on the war room, um, the invasion.

00:09:33.980 And when you write about it, we correctly use capital letters just to underline the point.

00:09:38.640 It's not a subtle argument, this.

00:09:40.360 So you, you mentioned that the Pope, um, inverted commas said that resisting the invasion is a sin.

00:09:48.600 Tell me more about that.

00:09:50.500 Well, I, it's, this is something that they preach as their gospel.

00:09:53.480 Resisting this is a sin.

00:09:55.060 And you know that even in the United States, the bishops are always telling everybody that it's a sin.

00:09:59.940 That, uh, they're saying just recently, uh, that the head of the USCCB immigration area said that, um, you know, people who work for ICE can't even be, they should consider not going to communion.

00:10:10.940 That's a mortal sin, perhaps, to work for immigration. 1.00

00:10:14.040 This is throughout the church.

00:10:15.660 Now, Leo has just started his, his, um, talk about, even though he's brought up immigration over and over and over, um, he, he, you know, this Lampedusa visit, like Francis did right when Francis became Pope, that's coming.

00:10:27.360 So he'll be down there on that island, which is really an island, a stopping point for Muslims to come into Europe. 1.00

00:10:34.320 How, how, how is a country like France supposed to prosecute when you have so many, when you have, you passed a critical mass of people and they're, they're so different than you that your very words require death.

00:10:47.560 What we're supposed to fill, you know, we're supposed to Islamicize Christian Europe and, and, and put all of these people at risk. 1.00

00:10:54.900 Like this is just a, you know, in China, they just made this kind of thing that this man did illegal for all priests.

00:10:59.660 That's, that's in the news today too.

00:11:01.920 So we have no support coming from Rome, really.

00:11:05.840 I thought you were going to give me some good news to say that Pope Leo is really leading a different path from Pope Francis.

00:11:14.220 It's not Bergoglio 2.0.

00:11:16.260 This is a new moderate conservative, moderate traditionalist Pope, you know, citing as all of Trad Inc. is doing the fact that Leo has given permission to Cardinal Burke to celebrate the traditional Latin mass in St. Peter's.

00:11:32.260 At the same time as Cardinal Burke will be Cardinal Zuppi, he's going to also be, and they don't ever mention that, but Cardinal Zuppi is, is like the, uh, uh, point man for the San Egidio group, which is sort of like a, another Catholic, well-founded operation to create channels, you know, of migrants going through Europe where it makes it difficult to help them legally get funneled into different parts of Europe.

00:11:57.260 That's also happening with Cardinal, at Cardinal Burke's mass.

00:12:01.780 So, you know, they, they say many over and over again, from both, on both sides of the pond that migrants have the face of Christ, like Mary and Joseph, and it would be a sin not to permit more, but, but you have a cultural difference that is, is actually deadly, which we're finding out in other, you know, with Charlie Kirk too, we're finding that in the United States. 0.91

00:12:22.500 We're finding that with the, with the massacre at the school in the Catholic school in Minnesota and the one before in Nashville, that the idea, the actual, that these transsexuals have sort of a religious animosity towards Christianity. 0.77

00:12:36.440 Just before we move on, Frank, all of the world, quite rightly, has been talking about the, the, the slaying of Charlie Kirk, a guy who wasn't Catholic, um, who was Protestant, but he very coherently and convincingly lived out publicly his Christian faith.

00:13:04.180 All the world is talking about this.

00:13:06.940 Can you tell me how many interventions have emerged from the Holy See over, over the last week?

00:13:18.060 They are very, very embarrassingly and disappointingly mild intervention.

00:13:24.080 And it was, it was really prompted.

00:13:26.380 You know, I mean, I think that, I think that the left was completely shocked by the response to this Charlie Kirk assassination all over the world.

00:13:34.020 I mean, billions of people were interested in this and he definitely had a strong Christian witness.

00:13:39.240 He wasn't shy about it at all.

00:13:40.920 And while everybody was making a statement that the head of the Catholic church, you would think would have, you know, some skin in the game here, that he would be interested in seeing and, and, and, uh, in protecting Catholics said nothing.

00:13:53.400 Absolutely nothing.

00:13:53.900 Absolutely nothing.

00:13:55.160 He gave an interview about how he's getting used to being a world leader, but he didn't, he didn't do anything that a world leader would know.

00:14:01.520 Any world leader would do just out of human decency.

00:14:04.340 He said nothing.

00:14:04.920 And it took the new ambassador from Trump's white house to go there and meet with him and realize very quietly that he actually said something.

00:14:13.880 He said that he meant, but he didn't do that.

00:14:18.340 He didn't say that out publicly.

00:14:20.080 That's a sort of a hearsay, a second in command.

00:14:22.820 I think it was, I think it was a little bit of damage control coming from, uh, people in the white house that hope that Leo would somehow appeal to their constituents.

00:14:30.860 I think it was a shame and, but, but they're, they're hyping it.

00:14:36.480 You know, you see, they're making like big memes out of it now.

00:14:39.580 Leo said something about Charlie Kirk, but it was really just, uh, you know, it was something that was relayed by the ambassador.

00:14:45.940 It was a private comment.

00:14:47.780 It was perfunctory.

00:14:50.180 Yes.

00:14:52.520 Okay.

00:14:53.460 Um, so all Catholics of goodwill who follow this show can watch that and note that, um, and draw the, draw the dots.

00:15:00.280 Thanks for that breakdown, Frank.

00:15:03.040 Jenny, we'll just be coming to you in a couple of moments to hear more about what happened in Belfast over the last few days.

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00:17:48.600 So, Jenny, you in Belfast, you were speaking about Charlie Kirk.

00:17:55.000 Tell me about the atmosphere there.

00:17:57.840 I guess by the turnout there, people in Ireland did know who Charlie was and were sufficiently moved to come and pay their respects.

00:18:06.340 Where was that conference, that street protest conference commemoration taking place?

00:18:12.320 It was taking place directly in front of Belfast City Hall, which is a very traditional location for all rallies and protests.

00:18:22.100 Every weekend, I think still to this day, the pro-Palestinians take over the city center and march past the city hall.

00:18:29.980 So, we reclaimed a small space for the side of sanity on Saturday.

00:18:35.760 The rally was organized by a party called the Traditional Union as Voice, which is a political party with councillors and local representatives.

00:18:47.260 And they are considered by the liberal establishment to be beyond the pale, quote-unquote, far right.

00:18:55.820 But actually, the people in the crowd were, and I said this in the speech, extremely politically diverse.

00:19:02.320 There's people like me who were former lefties.

00:19:04.460 There was gay men, gay women, a lot of people who loved Charlie, not because they agreed with everything he said,

00:19:13.560 but because he was so sound and he was so consistent on the basic reality of that fact that men cannot be women.

00:19:20.340 So, I was getting messages all week last week from TERFs, as we call them here in the UK, trends, exclusionary, radical feminists, 1.00

00:19:27.400 devastated at Charlie's assassination.

00:19:29.920 So, whilst there was a very, TUV is closely associated with evangelical Protestantism,

00:19:38.800 and they're very, very devout of various Protestant denominations,

00:19:45.600 this was, this is, it showed once again that the true political and ideological diversity exists only on the right.

00:19:55.360 There is no place for any divergence on the left.

00:20:01.740 Everyone on the left and on the liberal side has to be singing from the same hymn sheet,

00:20:06.680 but on the right you find people who, if you approach them in good faith,

00:20:11.820 will absolutely listen to you and hear you out and can make common cause with you.

00:20:16.120 So, overall, the mood at the rally, because it was explicitly a memorial in honour of Charlie Kirk and his incredible work,

00:20:25.480 the mood was somber, but I have to say, very, very resolute.

00:20:29.340 People have had it up to here.

00:20:32.260 They are sick to the back teeth of being afraid to state basic real truth and basic common sense.

00:20:39.500 We're tired of being slandered as Nazis and far right.

00:20:42.840 We're done. It's over.

00:20:44.620 We cannot do it anymore.

00:20:45.660 That was definitely the mood at the rally on Saturday.

00:20:50.320 Now, tell me something.

00:20:51.480 Northern Ireland is famous historically over many, many decades now for the sectarian difficulties between the troubles,

00:21:00.260 capital T, capital T, right, between Protestants and Catholics.

00:21:07.800 Was the composition of the people who were there to give support of mixed background,

00:21:16.960 or was it predominantly one or the other?

00:21:19.340 Well, it's hard to say.

00:21:20.720 You can't tell who's Catholic and who's Protestant just by looking at people.

00:21:25.700 I mean, the truth is, though, that the Irish nationalist parties, which are Catholic in denomination, are nowhere near this issue.

00:21:38.200 They have fled.

00:21:39.480 They have left the room.

00:21:40.980 They are not representing what I think is the majority opinion of sort of common sense, everyday people.

00:21:49.140 And so, really, this torch has been picked up by the, quote, unquote, Protestant side.

00:21:54.520 I mean, the, and this was the same during COVID as well.

00:21:58.320 It was parties like the TUV and other, like, very sort of hardline, quote, unquote, unionist parties that stood against the COVID mandates.

00:22:05.820 The Catholic side has really dropped the ball, and they're nowhere to be found.

00:22:11.920 Whether or not, though, I mean, there were certainly people of Catholic faith in attendance.

00:22:16.420 I would be certain of that.

00:22:18.440 But, you know, it wasn't, it was more of a kind of overarching Christian theme.

00:22:23.820 And nobody here, no, no loyalist party here wants to return to the sectarian violence that saw 3,000 lives brutally ended over what was essentially identity politics.

00:22:40.000 I mean, everyone says it was, I mean, it's perceived as a religious conflict.

00:22:43.340 It was not a religious conflict.

00:22:44.880 It was an identitarian conflict with certain sort of socioeconomic roots.

00:22:50.660 But, you know, Northern Ireland invented identity politics, and I've been saying this for years.

00:22:55.480 So we know very, very well how dangerous and murderous identity politics is.

00:23:04.780 Well, you know, it's a perfect opportunity, I think, commemorations like this to bring both sides together.

00:23:13.240 And, of course, you know, if we're going to win on the culture wars, that's exactly what needs to happen.

00:23:17.720 But Protestants can be pretty good on the ground.

00:23:22.520 Catholics tend to wait for institutional support from the parish priest, from the bishop.

00:23:31.020 And that's not coming.

00:23:33.660 And that's not coming.

00:23:34.420 That's why Canon 212 exists.

00:23:37.380 It's why the war room exists, because we're trying, we're out there trying to give people back their sense of agency, which is essential, because, as I say, it's not going to come from the Catholic hierarchy.

00:23:49.720 They're all firmly over working in the devil's corner of the vineyard.

00:23:55.360 But, Jenny, just on this subject, though, on the Northern Ireland situation and this commemoration, tell me something.

00:24:06.240 How powerful has the fact been that Charlie was killed properly, really, at his signature event, the Prove Me Wrong University debate series, where people could go and, you know, very few people on the left will say, Prove Me Wrong, in a public setting.

00:24:27.340 That's not managed.

00:24:29.060 Here's Charlie, he did this all the time, proved me wrong, and he was gunned down in the grip of someone in this ferocious, irrational anger, hatred, by the way, is the word of it.

00:24:42.360 Just in the final two minutes of this segment, how much is that point filtering through to people in Northern Ireland here?

00:24:50.780 The fact that here you have a guy that the left was calling fascist, saying, I'm here for debate, I'm here for dialogue, and killed by people who are always put forward as the exponents of dialogue, who just didn't want the debate.

00:25:08.320 They don't want the discussion.

00:25:09.640 Is that part of the dynamic there of the people who turned out?

00:25:13.400 Certainly.

00:25:14.200 Oh, it's very clear.

00:25:15.340 I mean, the message couldn't be clearer.

00:25:17.380 He was shot in the throat while speaking truth, and speaking truth very powerfully.

00:25:22.880 I think that, however, much like the rest of the West, those who know and believe in his message know and see the significance of it.

00:25:32.740 On the other side, however, I'm seeing a lot of these sort of propagandistic lies being spread on social media about how he was actually killed by a MAGA fan or, like, a gun nut.

00:25:45.120 So, you know, it's a really, it's a very similar situation.

00:25:48.960 Like, the problem lies with the liberal left and their inability to face reality and inability to have any kind of dialogue in good faith.

00:26:00.140 They must always return to smears and lies because fundamentally the truth is not on their side.

00:26:07.420 So the only reaction you ever get from them are, is lies and hysteria and slander.

00:26:15.360 You know, Charlie Kirk had a lot of young fans here in Northern Ireland, a lot of young men and young women.

00:26:19.880 There was a lot of young people in that crowd.

00:26:22.640 But they know, they know, they know what happened.

00:26:26.120 They know the truth of the matter.

00:26:27.760 And they are going to carry that message on forward for the rest of their lives.

00:26:31.920 And, you know, unfortunately, I mean, they did silence his voice in that moment, but his message they did not silence at all.

00:26:41.300 In fact, if anything, it's only growing and growing and growing, especially amongst young people.

00:26:47.360 Very powerful, Jenny.

00:26:49.500 Thanks for the analysis and thanks for being there at Belfast and for speaking so well.

00:26:55.300 We'll be back with you, Jenny, in just two minutes time.

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00:31:15.700 Well, one of the dynamics that we talk about constantly on the war room is the fact that most of our institutions, most of the media, most of those who are in charge of promoting and pushing culture seem to be on the left.

00:31:29.520 And arguably are pushing a line very much within the satanic, if I might put it like that, points of principle.

00:31:50.700 But conversely, at the same time as that dynamic, there's another dynamic, which is a thirst for God.

00:32:00.360 And here in the West, this is particularly noticeable right now.

00:32:04.260 You see many, many, you know, young kids who 10 years ago perhaps would not have been that interested in Christianity, certainly in the UK, coming out from the front and leading this campaign to paint the flag of St. George, the white background, the Red Cross and the white background.

00:32:28.220 So you have these two dynamics.

00:32:30.780 You have the spiritual attacks coming from the fact that most of our governance seems to be in the hands of the devil.

00:32:42.960 And conversely, you have a lot of people now searching for God.

00:32:47.840 And one of these, I think, places where this is taking place, these two currents are running into one another, is on AI, on the Internet, on social media.

00:32:57.200 And a couple of people, quite a few people recently have been suggesting that the devil might actually be behind and integrated within AI.

00:33:09.900 Jenny, there's this story in the New York Times that says millions are turning to chatbots for guidance from on high.

00:33:22.460 Tell me a bit about this article, the main thesis, and then tell me whether you think this is a good thing, a dangerous thing, or possibly at this stage, both.

00:33:36.320 Yeah, I think at this stage, both is probably the most succinct answer.

00:33:42.700 This is a fascinating article.

00:33:44.540 I was really, really gobsmacked by this.

00:33:47.920 Because on the one, so the story is about the popularity of religious apps, and there are tens of millions of subscribers and downloads.

00:33:59.580 And on the one hand, these apps, especially the ones that incorporate chatbots and chat GPT and AI, so users can message and they will get a response on religious matters.

00:34:16.080 There is something very, very dystopian about that.

00:34:20.800 Imagine sitting up late at night, texting into your app, you know, hello, God, are you there?

00:34:27.060 And getting a response.

00:34:29.080 And God, who knows what is powering this response?

00:34:32.960 I mean, large language models are large language models.

00:34:35.840 But there is something very sinister about it, and it feels very much like sort of a science fiction horror story.

00:34:44.600 But actually, when you read the article, there's some extremely illuminating data points in there.

00:34:51.160 One of which was that at one point, I think last year, Halo, which is an app that I actually use and subscribe to, had the number one spot on the Apple App Store.

00:35:04.280 That means it was higher in downloads than Netflix, Instagram, and TikTok.

00:35:11.600 This is incredible, okay?

00:35:13.680 If Halo can compete with TikTok, which I think presents the sort of polar opposite in terms of the, you know, the ghost in the machine, the TikTok ecosystem is very creepy and very, you know, often very malignant.

00:35:31.400 And Halo is, you know, Bible verses and the rosary and all these things.

00:35:38.540 So the fact that there is such a need for this and such a strong desire for this is incredibly positive.

00:35:48.120 I think that's something to celebrate.

00:35:49.520 I think it's actually a white pill.

00:35:52.520 And, I mean, the other thing is that, you know, people have been disillusioned to a huge degree by the institutional churches.

00:36:01.520 We were locked, you know, well, we weren't Christians, were locked out of their churches during COVID.

00:36:07.880 And Christian leadership went along with that.

00:36:10.380 So it's absolutely no surprise.

00:36:11.900 And who can blame people for turning to the thing they always have with them, which is their phone?

00:36:17.000 The other very interesting thing in the article, which gives sort of graphics showing how these chatbots work.

00:36:24.680 Well, you'll type in a question and some sort of godly being responds to you, which doesn't sound at all like a positive thing.

00:36:35.000 But in the examples given in the piece, the responses were actually scriptural.

00:36:41.760 They were Bible verses.

00:36:44.620 In one case, it was a psalm.

00:36:46.160 A woman logged in to ask for comfort, and the chatbot gave her a psalm, and she said it was very helpful in her moment of need.

00:36:56.720 And I have to say, guys, I'm getting more Bible and scripture from this app that is being quoted in the New York Times than I have heard from anything out of the Vatican and the Pope this entire summer, all these months that we've been doing this show.

00:37:14.760 Every time I look to the Vatican content, it's all these platitudes and received wisdom and conventional takes.

00:37:24.060 And I've never heard one time in all of these things, any of them actually quoting from the Bible or talking about God or Jesus.

00:37:32.160 So whilst there's absolutely something dark about chat, GPT, and large language models sort of assuming the role of God, that is a terrifying proposition,

00:37:46.580 I've also heard very alarming stories about chatbots that sort of go off the reservation somewhat and end up saying very sinister things to young people.

00:37:56.860 And those stories are truly, truly horrifying.

00:38:00.260 But, you know, I mean, if these people are getting Bible verses, there's something to be said for that.

00:38:07.920 It's amazing.

00:38:10.760 Frank, you know, I've been waiting for years for the Vatican to talk about sin.

00:38:16.500 And then it was Frank Walker who said earlier on in the show that the Pope has finally said something about sin.

00:38:22.780 That is, if you resist the invasion, that's sin.

00:38:26.500 Frank, go ahead.

00:38:28.920 The amazing thing, I agree, is that there's such a need for this.

00:38:32.400 There's such a need for this that people would go to these kind of crazy, this seems crazy efforts, but they have no familiarity with religion at all.

00:38:40.780 And they want it so bad.

00:38:43.000 We're being deprived of a part of us that's, and it's just amazing what they've done to us.

00:38:48.480 And that's the positive.

00:38:50.140 I agree with that.

00:38:50.980 But you're right that it's sinister because there's a move today for them to, for the left to build what they stole from us, you know.

00:39:00.720 So they want to get in the middle of this, and they want to make sure they have control over it.

00:39:04.900 Just like they've kind of stolen the Catholic Church, and they've put a Pope who is a Pope of this new religion that doesn't mention anything Catholic. 0.77

00:39:13.160 That only mentions, makes sins out of things that are political things and aren't helpful at all.

00:39:17.540 So I think that's what this is all about, and we always wonder, why does it keep coming back? 0.91

00:39:21.420 It's such a silly idea.

00:39:23.180 This isn't a real person. 0.54

00:39:24.960 And in the piece there, Father Mike Smith says, you know, they have record of all this.

00:39:29.840 You can't really go to confession this way.

00:39:31.920 But I think they want to make, I read David Horowitz, late David Horowitz said once, the radical is great at destroying things.

00:39:39.940 But they're not really, they don't really have any good ideas about building the new things back, the new world that they're trying to create.

00:39:45.140 They kind of fall down there, and that's what this is.

00:39:47.320 This is trying to create this new, you know, media kind of type of AI world they can have control over, and a whole new religion.

00:39:57.080 And unfortunately, the Catholic Church is quite a part of it.

00:40:01.620 Frank, let me ask you this question.

00:40:03.280 Have you ever, do you use any form of AI app, like ChatGPT?

00:40:13.060 No, no, I don't.

00:40:15.880 But I do Google a lot of things, and I find that, you know, I think it's very helpful.

00:40:20.660 And I know people that work with AI, and they find it very helpful, too.

00:40:24.220 I don't think, I think it's just a new, a new level of computer power is what it really is.

00:40:29.340 But I noticed that coming out of the Vatican, that they're always talking about it.

00:40:33.520 It's, they have big meetings they pull together, people from Microsoft and all sorts of businesses discuss it.

00:40:39.780 And that's not a good sign.

00:40:41.220 What that means is they want to have, be involved in that.

00:40:45.020 They want to, they want to, they want to have a new, they've been so successful with media over the last hundred years,

00:40:50.540 at being able to create this society and destroying religion in the hearts and the lives of people.

00:40:56.060 They have no contact with their culture, with the people from the past. 0.88

00:40:59.180 They don't know what to do.

00:40:59.900 That's why they're going to this machine, that they just want to make sure that they are,

00:41:04.360 that they're computer, in their mind, the computing and the AI is something,

00:41:09.640 a tool that they can use to continue to manipulate us, to give us this whole new religion. 0.92

00:41:15.020 They know that we need religion.

00:41:16.620 That's why they stole it.

00:41:17.600 They want to give us a new one now, but that's just the bad side.

00:41:22.420 Yeah.

00:41:22.660 They are doing it.

00:41:23.460 You know, there was, yeah, it's interesting because I use ChatTP a little bit and I also,

00:41:31.780 but I also use the Hallow app, which I don't think has the chat function.

00:41:37.280 But it's, it's fascinating because, you know, the need is so strong and what the need represents,

00:41:44.480 not just the need for spirituality, but spiritual leadership.

00:41:47.740 And that is completely lacking in, at least in so far, in the Catholic Church and in this new papacy.

00:41:56.240 I mean, Publio did an interview, released the first interview since ascending to the throne.

00:42:03.700 And in it, he complained or, you know, he expressed concern that Elon Musk was earning too much money.

00:42:11.040 And, you know, he expressed concern over wealth inequality.

00:42:15.420 And he also said, he also said that the polarization in society was down to the erosion of the family and society.

00:42:23.720 And, I mean, that is a very banal statement.

00:42:27.220 That's sort of like saying, I don't like bad guys.

00:42:29.960 I don't like bad things.

00:42:31.500 I don't like mean people.

00:42:33.140 I mean, you know, where is the really hard leadership?

00:42:36.680 Why did he not say what was causing the erosion of the family and society?

00:42:42.240 Instead, he just goes through with these platitudes and these vague statements that it's very hard to disagree with.

00:42:48.200 And, I mean, this is exactly what the Church of England does.

00:42:50.660 This is exactly what the leadership just – our government leadership does as well.

00:42:55.100 I mean, it's almost indistinguishable from this sort of lib dem, you know, happy, clappy, oh, why can't we all get along vibe of the centrists in politics.

00:43:07.420 We obviously can't all get along.

00:43:09.680 We obviously need something harder and truer and more robust.

00:43:13.540 And if AI is the only place that the layperson, you know, the humble sinner can get that, I mean, maybe in the short term.

00:43:24.700 But I would agree with Frank.

00:43:26.200 I mean, it's a very strange direction to take.

00:43:29.780 My very limited experience with faith does indicate to me that it needs flesh and blood and it needs material reality.

00:43:40.940 It needs physical space, bricks and mortar.

00:43:44.060 And those things are irreplaceable.

00:43:47.280 Musk's –

00:43:48.160 He mentioned Musk in that situation because that's a political opportunity for him.

00:43:57.440 There's a lot of zillionaires that he could have mentioned, but he has to worry about his own support.

00:44:03.200 You know, but Musk, that's a never – in his mind, that's still a never-Trump thing to discuss.

00:44:08.060 And it's a precursor to this encyclical, which he's getting ready to release, which is all on this subject.

00:44:13.280 He's supposed to be the new Leo XIII.

00:44:15.640 And that – we can see now from this what he said here by referring to Musk, who retweeted back to him today and told him, take the log out of your own eye, which is very relevant.

00:44:25.860 You can see from – that this encyclical is going to be completely political.

00:44:30.720 It's going to be a political hammer to hit back at – and that's why he was the same way with Charlie Kirk.

00:44:38.060 He's the pope of left-wing politics, and that's his job.

00:44:43.100 We – he is the honorary chaplain of the New World Order, as was his predecessor, the late unlamented Bergoglio. 0.76

00:44:53.640 That's all we've got time for on that segment.

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00:46:40.360 Guys, I just want to say one thing to tie some of these things that we've been discussing on the show together.

00:46:51.020 You're going to have a situation when, say look at the UK, including Northern Ireland, right?

00:46:59.720 You're going to have a situation in the next couple of years where people are going to be so fired up about protecting their cultural identity, their homeland from all forms of undermining coming out of the invasion.

00:47:17.860 But not only the invasion. Tens of thousands of young kids, they're going to be completely unchurched, but they know they are going to identify very strongly as Christian.

00:47:27.160 And they're going to come knocking at the doors of churches, of the Church of England, of the Catholic Church, right?

00:47:39.080 Our priests and our pastors need to be ready for this and need to take this opportunity that I think Christ is giving them to regrow Christianity here in what used to be called Christendom.

00:47:54.820 But I have the fear, you know, listen to what you're saying, Jenny, listen to what you're saying, Frank.

00:48:00.340 I have this fear in the bottom of my heart that that door is going to be slammed firmly in their faces, which would be a great tragedy and a great waste,

00:48:10.700 especially as, Jenny, as you're just exposing to us on the back of an article in all places, the New York Times, just how strong this thirst is for God.

00:48:22.660 You know, there's a thirst that only God can respond to.

00:48:27.520 It is interesting. I was going to say earlier when you were talking about just the wishy-washy platitudes coming out of the Vatican.

00:48:34.260 I think this is why Islam is doing so well, because it offers certainty, relative simplicity behind its... 0.94

00:48:45.260 I've said before, Islam is a false religion. It's not founded on the divine revelation of God to mankind. 1.00

00:48:53.620 But Muslims live that faith very coherently, very credibly, and that coherence is, to use the word evangelizing, people see that and they respond to it.

00:49:07.240 They respond to it positively because man is made to respond to seeing people live their faith coherently.

00:49:14.780 Can I add something to that? It's also very... They're very confident in their belief.

00:49:21.420 They're very confident in openly expressing it, to put it mildly.

00:49:26.100 And what happens when Christians are... Confidently express those beliefs? 1.00

00:49:32.200 Other so-called Christians or other even non-woke liberals try and tear them down 0.59

00:49:39.900 and try and portray them as some sort of crypto-fascist, shadowy, Christian nationalist entity.

00:49:49.580 So we are shaming our own side, essentially, when especially young people want to be bold and brave

00:49:58.000 and trumpet their true and authentic belief.

00:50:04.180 People who are supposedly on their own side then go and tear them down.

00:50:09.200 This is a grave problem in the West in general, and it's very hard to move forward in making common cause

00:50:17.000 and a united front when, you know, people who are supposed to be on our own side

00:50:22.200 are trying to prevent us, malign us, or shut us down.

00:50:27.520 Yeah, we are very much being kicked in the back of our knees by people who ought to be leading the way.

00:50:33.840 Too many high-link shepherds, not enough shepherds.

00:50:37.260 Jenny, where do people go on social media to catch up with your analysis?

00:50:41.860 Best place is Substack, which is jennieeholland.substack.com.

00:50:46.760 And you can also find me on X at semperfemina21.

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00:50:58.480 Type it up in the address line, and also you can see the daily update at GloryTV and at Rumble.

00:51:04.000 And on Twitter, Canon 212 spelled out.

00:51:08.900 And you have your Substack as well.

00:51:10.800 Folks, don't forget, I say this every time, Canon 212 is such an important resource

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00:51:21.480 as Catholics to hold our high-link shepherds to account.

00:51:27.380 That is all we have time for today.

00:51:29.700 We'll be back next week, same time.

00:51:32.080 Thank you to my guests, Frank Walker, Jenny Holland, to Spencer and Will,

00:51:37.040 and everyone at Real America's Voice.

00:51:39.520 God bless for now.

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Bannon's War Room - September 19, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 852： Wheelchair-Bound Lay Evangelist In France Martyred On Air While Livestreaming — MSM Totally Silent

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