Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 855： I Went To Prison So You Don't Have To

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:10.540 medieval on this people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:17.120 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to

00:00:21.200 do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen

00:00:24.320 and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any

00:00:32.320 of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:39.600 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:48.000 it's tuesday 23 september the year of our lord 2025 but i can't think of a better way to end

00:00:58.640 really a couple of historic days starting with uh charlie kirk's the first mega state funeral on

00:01:04.980 sunday particularly with president trump's um what i would say is fiery remarks coupled with what

00:01:12.300 happened yesterday in the roosevelt room which was nothing short of historic then on top of that the

00:01:16.980 signing of the antifa terrorist designation and then president trump today going into the lions

00:01:22.640 den in a complete and total throwdown against the globalists it was a the last three days have had a

00:01:28.620 different intensity even in the most intense term in american presidential history that's not me saying

00:01:37.100 that that's jim vanderhay and mike allen the two guardians of the conventional wisdom in washington dc the

00:01:43.620 imperial capital the founders of politico the founders of axios and the now still the chief

00:01:50.060 editors of axios they're brilliant piece today about the trump uh presidency i got it up on getter

00:01:55.260 it's breathtaking um in the fact that jim vanderhay says flat out there has never been more

00:02:02.280 accomplished in any first year of any presidency in the history of the united states of america

00:02:07.580 including fdr pretty big from a a liberal progressive like jim vanderhay just flat out

00:02:15.160 one of the key architects of that a dear friend and and colleague is dr peter navarro in this amazing

00:02:22.040 book that you have to read because hakeem jeffries told you folks yesterday because they're being

00:02:29.160 forced into a corner they got they have to say this they're going to have to do it he said hey look

00:02:33.480 we're taking notes and all you guys are going to prison as soon as we take over the house and then

00:02:38.460 win the white house so peter peter navarro's book uh i went to prison so you don't have to believe me

00:02:46.600 when i say this they are coming for you okay they're using trump and navarro and bannon and uh and others

00:02:54.900 alex jones and others as just guys getting in the way they're coming for you as they came for charlie kirk

00:03:01.940 okay peter i want to start off i i always wanted to do an hour and we were going to do it up live

00:03:08.700 but the assassination of charlie kirk it was uh in remembrance of him we decided to delay that

00:03:14.880 um i want to go i want to start this off by talking when i say one of the most i think important

00:03:23.180 days in our movement and one of the blackest moments in american history was your apprehension

00:03:29.840 by the fbi at reagan airport i want to go through detail including what happened to our to bonnie one

00:03:36.560 of the finest women i've met um because you're just not any person you have been the architect of

00:03:46.120 president trump's kind of trade and manufacturing policy you were brought into the campaign before

00:03:51.560 he won the primary to actually add some heft and some and some focus and some detail and some more

00:03:58.940 substrate to president trump's um economic plan to bring jobs back here to america your entire adult

00:04:06.580 life and including with the administration was about putting citizens of this country for the country

00:04:12.840 first and citizens first and there's so many families out there today that uh oh not just to

00:04:20.640 donald trump to yourself and i want i want you to go through in detail and tell uh and this is one of

00:04:27.740 the reasons you got to get the book tell people what was in your mind what happened reagan national

00:04:32.840 airport is one of the busy not just busiest airports in the country but it's so many prominent people

00:04:37.320 congressmen senators media people prominent donors go through that airport all day long the fbi

00:04:44.680 did something to humiliate you to humiliate you and break you as a man break you as a man and it shows

00:04:51.560 your toughness uh and uh and um um the fact that you can't be broken to this incident talk to me about

00:04:59.520 it well steve you and i we didn't bend when they sent us to prison we didn't break that's that's who we

00:05:06.640 are i went to prison so you won't have to it's it's a book about me and bonnie our prison diaries it's a

00:05:15.000 forward by the great steve bannon but the book's not about you and i it's not about bonnie it's really

00:05:22.020 about this unprecedented attempt to come after people uh put them in prison kill them bankrupt them

00:05:31.620 and i went to prison so you won't have to is is really i think a manifestation of what i think

00:05:39.620 must be the sixth stage of grief for charlie kirk you know they always talk about the five stages of

00:05:45.340 grief but the sixth stage of grief steve is accountability because if they can come for me

00:05:52.540 if they can come for you they can try to kill donald trump and they can kill charlie kirk they can do

00:05:58.000 all of that bank try to bankrupt michael and dell try to bankrupt rudy giuliani take away the the law 0.97

00:06:05.960 livelihood of john eastman jeff clark uh everybody steve that i was in the white house with has suffered

00:06:12.460 in some way by that targeting and we must hold them accountable and and i went to prison so you won't

00:06:21.720 have to as a book about naming names i mean we know who they are when i say they we know

00:06:27.880 exactly who they are in my case it was uh all the members of congress with a d beside them same for

00:06:36.760 you um it was the attorney general merrick garland the u.s attorney matt graves the prosecutors john

00:06:43.960 crabbe elizabeth alloy the judge amit mehta the appeals court judges patricia mullet and cornelia

00:06:51.380 pillard and with donald trump it was uh comey clapper page struck all these people we talked about

00:06:59.460 but for me uh you're absolutely right to start as the as i went to prison so you won't have to starts

00:07:06.420 in the first chapter with the takedown

00:07:08.500 that faithful day at reagan national airport of my sweet fiancee bonnie i call her pixie

00:07:18.660 the book uh if you ever meet her you'll know why uh five armed fbi agents uh took us down in a gangway

00:07:28.580 on what was one of the happiest couple hours of our lives before we got tried to board that plane

00:07:36.580 and um i think people need to understand a couple things first of all this was a misdemeanor second

00:07:42.660 all white white collar crime um bonnie's about 4 11 with heels on uh 95 pounds i'm like 74 years old

00:07:53.940 145 pounds and they needed they thought they needed five armed fbi agents to take us it was

00:08:01.460 it was just a show and the funny part about it is darkly comic steve is that i actually at the time

00:08:08.820 lived uh right across the street from the fbi as a field goal kicker back in the day i could literally

00:08:14.980 kick a field goal from my balcony over to their porch that's how close they were so um they had

00:08:23.460 the cnn cameras were ready they the cnn knew they were coming for me before i knew and um leg irons

00:08:32.260 handcuffs they put me in john hinckley's own old cell and made a point of telling me that's who had

00:08:38.820 been there like there was some equivalence between standing up for the constitution and trying to kill

00:08:45.540 a president uh and and and so it went and what this steve what i went to prison so you won't have to

00:08:52.660 is a book about how they try uh to take us out using lawfare the weaponization of of government

00:09:05.140 and they can come for anybody see that's the message you watching this show they they're coming

00:09:11.380 for i'm not saying they can they're coming for you if they get back power i mean these people

00:09:16.260 these people who would who would literally dance on the grave of charlie kirk while his body was still

00:09:26.020 warm is is the grossest kind of signal that signal steve that's not noise that signal about who these

00:09:34.020 people are and why we must protect ourselves and the only way to do it is hold them accountable and just

00:09:42.100 and we're not doing that steve we're not doing that at anywhere near the pace we should now the

00:09:47.220 other thing i should tell you steve about that whole arrest is there was a very important historical

00:09:54.100 figure who took me down a guy named walter giardina uh at the time i thought he was just another fbi agent

00:10:01.940 kind of unwilling to speak up against the tyranny of that agency at the time

00:10:08.420 but it it turns out through the efforts of chuck grassley and fbi whistleblowers that this guy giardina

00:10:16.180 is actually uh i call him the forest gump of the fbi because he was literally involved in every single

00:10:24.100 attempt to stop donald trump from getting elected or to throw him out of office once he was in

00:10:29.860 and he was like according to whistleblowers the guy who read the steel dossier which was a fake

00:10:39.620 document launching the russia hoax paid for by hillary clinton indisputable fact he was one of

00:10:48.020 the fbi agents that gave it its blessing said it was true and that set off crossfire hurricane which

00:10:54.740 was the russia hoax hoax hoax hoax and then he was on the muller uh effort the the witch hunter the

00:11:01.140 muller report and then he was on operation crimson river which was a license to get the phone records

00:11:07.540 and emails of of everybody in the administration and then he was on arctic frost which was all

00:11:13.140 the j6 takes down and he was a guy steve that put me in leg irons put me in handcuffs knocked on my

00:11:22.820 door at dawn with with subpoenas testified i would argue reading the transcript uh lied about uh what

00:11:34.980 what things happened there and grassley called him out on that just recently so it's a it's a heck of a

00:11:40.740 start to the book i went to prison so you won't have to and look this is an important hour for us

00:11:46.260 steve because we got to get to the real meat and bones of this because you and i went to prison we 0.98

00:11:53.140 they call us the fascists steve how dare they these bastards put you and i in prison they tried to put 0.99

00:12:02.100 donald trump in prison they tried to kill him twice they killed charlie kirk and they went after 0.99

00:12:08.020 every single person i served with in the white house who was a senior advisor and they call us

00:12:13.620 fascists how dare they they were coming after you folks we're coming after you but the difference is

00:12:20.420 we're going to do it but legally and we're going to hold you accountable for what you've done which

00:12:25.540 is illegal and we're going to do it permanent yeah and we're going to do it permanently because

00:12:29.460 you're not coming back to power that we can guarantee you okay i want to go back to something

00:12:33.700 though because people don't know being shackled and putting leg irons publicly it was a misdemeanor

00:12:42.100 the fbi knew where you were you're like they knew they knew everything what they could have called you

00:12:46.900 in and said meet us at the office and we'll do this it's a misdemeanor yes it's a misdemeanor

00:12:53.620 yes they knew this they did this to break you and humiliate you that to me is such a when you get the

00:12:59.140 book you're so enraged by the opening of it you just blow through this book and you get angrier

00:13:04.740 and angrier and that's what we want you to be because we're not going to make changes unless the

00:13:10.100 people in the country understand this ain't about navarro it's not about the president it's not about

00:13:14.820 steve bannon charlie kirk uh or anybody else that they came after alex jones all of it is about this

00:13:21.060 audience because they're coming for you they hate what we stand for uh they hate this political

00:13:28.820 movement and they're not going to stop and that's why this book i think peter is a uh is a tremendous

00:13:34.340 primer and i when as soon as i saw the the draft of what you did i said hey we got to do this at war

00:13:39.140 in books i i want to do this because i love this book so much not just it's got the side story you and

00:13:44.260 bonnie which is intrusively linked to the whole thing but it is a warning to everyday americans

00:13:51.620 about what is coming and what you will be treated like sir well one of the most unforgivable things

00:14:00.420 that that they did um was to to bonnie i i still remember when they're surrounding us with with their

00:14:10.180 guns and things like that in the gangway just holding her to me and telling her that everything

00:14:15.620 was going to be fine and and then watching her get perp walk steve perp walk through an airport

00:14:22.660 um in front of in front of the world uh and it's like that's the thing it's like they did jeff clark

00:14:31.460 when they went into his house right they scared the hell out of his kids and his wife it's like

00:14:36.820 no you don't do that there's no humanity there and so what we must do is get people to understand

00:14:49.300 that what we stand for is is very simple the maga is very simple steve it's an end to endless wars

00:14:57.780 it's it's fair trade uh and it's secure borders and and that's all we stand for and if we get to that

00:15:07.700 everybody in this country regardless of party is better off and instead what they do is declare

00:15:15.300 war on us and so like in the book it starts out you know the other the other thing that that was so

00:15:23.060 interesting about uh my situation is that i never should have been put in prison before my appeal was

00:15:31.700 heard it's just like they arrested me put me in prison for a misdemeanor with 200 felons um the

00:15:39.300 normal case when you get convicted for a misdemeanor which has profound constitutional implications which

00:15:47.620 is a case that would will likely be overturned on appeal is you let the person stay out

00:15:53.300 and we're in a situation now steve i know you know this but the two

00:15:56.180 judges who said i had to go to prison because there were no appealable issues on this on the

00:16:03.220 appeals court patricia malette cornelia pilar two appeals court judges right here in dc

00:16:09.860 they have ruled by sending me to prison that i have no appealable issues guess who's sitting on my appeals

00:16:16.580 panel of the three judges same two and so this is this is stuff and i went to prison so you won't have

00:16:25.060 have to you find out things like hey if they arrest you if they if they charge you you don't get to

00:16:32.180 argue to the jury your defense my defense was hey the president invoked executive privilege it was my

00:16:41.700 duty to the constitution to refuse that subpoena i had 50 years of department of justice policy

00:16:47.540 behind me and that friggin judge amit maida ruled that i couldn't utter the two words executive

00:16:56.660 privilege in that courtroom or be held in contempt and go to prison that way so they were going to get 0.50

00:17:01.540 me either way i mean that's like the book itself i mean look it's kafka it's it's a little

00:17:07.300 bit of catch 22 joseph heller um it's a lot of stephen king and it's it's something that i hope

00:17:15.140 that that the posse here will be a force multiplier on you need to get this get this and read it but

00:17:21.460 get a couple of them get it in the hands of everybody you can but so we can yeah we can hold

00:17:27.060 these people accountable steve but but hang on hang on hang on i want you to go in because i want the

00:17:32.420 audience to understand this about um and this is what they use against president trump talk about

00:17:39.620 the dc federal court system because i think people out there in the rest of the country have no earthy

00:17:44.740 idea no this is it's so rigged i had no earthy idea i'm not a lawyer i avoided going to law school

00:17:52.820 uh you know i use a lot of lawyers retain them i had no earthy idea people kept telling me about dc

00:17:59.300 the federal court in the appellate court the circuit court it just kind of went in one ear and out the

00:18:04.180 other until i saw it i go holy mackerel are you kidding me this is what to talk to him about this

00:18:10.340 is why they chose to come there about president trump to walk through the dc court what the nation

00:18:15.460 needs what you show in the book and what the nation needs to know sure absolutely so the dc court is

00:18:21.780 actually kind of interesting because it's often a stepping stone um to the supreme court there's a

00:18:28.180 number of justices who were in that court either the district level or the appeals court it's all in

00:18:34.420 the same same area and building and um the the problem we face around this country is that there's

00:18:44.260 just a lot of uh what what uh you call politicians in black robes in other words these are the good

00:18:51.540 people who have somehow been anointed judges and all they do is advance political agenda so

00:18:57.940 this guy this judge his name is amit mehta and and he basically used me in the course of that trial

00:19:07.380 as a way eventually to get he wants to be the first indian american on the supreme court and the way he

00:19:13.220 got seated steve is interesting in and of itself he was a um bundler you know you you of all people know

00:19:20.580 what a bundler is campaign bundler for obama back in in 2008 and he parlayed that into a seat uh on the

00:19:30.980 court and and somehow this fiction in america that somehow somebody who's like worked their way up the

00:19:37.620 ladder curried favor with a political party to get a judgeship suddenly puts on the black robe and abandons

00:19:43.860 all politics and becomes this this all wise person it's it's nonsense it's absolutely nonsense so i get

00:19:52.020 in i get in this courtroom and it's like every ruling this guy made i there wasn't a single ruling

00:19:58.660 that that he ruled in our favor and i had two very good lawyers writing very good motions we never got

00:20:06.340 yeah so i wanted to know for example why they prosecuted me and not dan scavino and mark meadows i'm

00:20:14.340 glad they didn't but but strip away everything we were charged with exactly the same alleged crime

00:20:21.380 refusing to testify it should have yeah that's it okay there's no there's no mitigating they should

00:20:27.460 have been charged but they didn't i tried to get discovery to figure out why i tried to get discovery

00:20:32.980 about how who ordered my leg irons arrest uh how far up the chain it went chris ray over to i don't

00:20:43.140 know matt graves maybe up to merrick garland we needed to know this to argue selective prosecution

00:20:48.260 they wouldn't let us do that they wouldn't let some of our witnesses uh come in we we had somebody

00:20:55.060 who and then uh the worst part is this whole notion of they just ruled that i couldn't argue executive

00:21:03.620 privilege that was my defense but i couldn't argue it and we got the judge to hold what's called an

00:21:09.460 evidentiary hearing and he i i over the course of almost an hour i established on five different

00:21:16.260 occasions the privilege had been invoked and then at the end of that he goes well wasn't good enough and

00:21:22.820 so by that it's like i couldn't i couldn't argue the case and then the jury uh steve this is like

00:21:28.580 crazy stuff right you saw this i'm in voir dire right and i'm knowing that 95 percent of the jurors

00:21:38.180 because they're drawn from the voter pool voted for joe biden right and some of these jurors

00:21:43.460 prospective jurors are saying well i don't like trump and then the judge would say do you think you could

00:21:48.100 be objective they go oh yes i can be objective okay you're on the jury and the one one or two people

00:21:55.060 we had that that looked like they might be fair the prosecutors understood it as well so they were gone

00:22:02.180 and so this was the same court that got all the j6 people sent them to jail without any bail made them 0.98

00:22:10.500 made them spend time before they were even charged continually overcharged them uh put like long prison

00:22:17.540 terms and terms on i mean in a fair trial i would have been acquitted on the basis of executive

00:22:24.020 privilege um even if i had been convicted they would have been probation and not imprisonment

00:22:32.020 and that's not what happened and there was one there's one funny story in the book i went to prison

00:22:37.540 so you won't have to about how the judge the jury's deadlock steve in your case

00:22:43.060 they went out and they came back in like in record time right guilty ban and go to jail whatever

00:22:48.980 with me it was like at least some some suspense steve where where uh the hours went by and we're

00:22:57.220 thinking oh this is kind of interesting and the judge lets the jury go out side the courtroom for what a

00:23:06.260 walk they wanted to get some quote fresh air and they got some fresh air right in the middle of all

00:23:11.780 the protesters out there with signs like jail navarro hang navarro this that and the other thing they get

00:23:17.460 back in and like i don't know eight minutes later it's guilty verdict and we said mistrial and the judge

00:23:24.980 of course said well no there was uh they were peaceful out there so no mistrial so the other thing i should

00:23:31.620 tell you is like okay so we get convicted you and me get convicted we had i don't know i think there's

00:23:37.780 seven times we appeal different things and those two judges i referenced earlier millette and pillard

00:23:45.700 either one or both of them were on every single appeal of and there are only three judges on appeal

00:23:52.580 that you and i had steve so this idea that appeals are random is just nonsense and i i mean these people

00:24:00.340 people i don't know where they got their law degrees really up the back of a cornflakes box

00:24:06.260 or something it doesn't hold it what do you mean it's not about the it's not about the law it's

00:24:09.860 about politics it's not about the law that's the point it's a kangaroo court and and they're so obvious

00:24:15.860 about it this is one of the reasons you get so infuriated as you read your book and folks this is not

00:24:23.140 going to change even by the time trump's out you've got to go back now one good thing i've heard is about

00:24:28.180 the audit pens for the judges i'm hearing from u.s attorneys that there may be some more question

00:24:33.220 of that but the dc district it's a totally rigged game i mean we had i had a judge that was i had

00:24:40.340 a judge that he had actually worked on his confirmation he's a trump judge he was homeless

00:24:45.140 he wasn't as bad as yours yours was insanely over the top and clearly hated you right uh but here's the

00:24:53.300 thing these people never in a million years thought we were coming back they never if if 0.80

00:25:00.900 if you had took the brain of the judge and peter navarro would be back in the white house are you

00:25:05.380 kid donald trump would be back in the white house steve banner would be yelling and screaming on his

00:25:10.180 show every day they had no i'll tell you what peter hang on we're gonna take a short commercial break

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00:31:31.940 movement okay peter navarre is with us by the way i'm putting up stuff on getter all the time and so is

00:31:38.900 dr peter navarre you get all his kind not all his kind he's on he's on twitter and these other big

00:31:43.860 platforms peter now i want to pivot from how you got there in the rig system and they came at you for

00:31:50.660 a misdemeanor which by the way in every other case in american history has been civil but for

00:31:55.540 narrow abandon it had to be criminal right because pelosi wanted to go to prison i might add

00:32:00.980 that everybody associated with this in the house that that condemned peter navarro and and and sent

00:32:08.020 over to the justice department sent him to prison in a rig deal all crawled on their bellies to get

00:32:14.020 pardons the staff all of it for pardons and i'm not so sure those pardons are going to fact i'm pretty

00:32:20.260 sure they're not going to hold but i'll get to that later i want to talk about now prison the proudest

00:32:25.300 moment i've ever had because i didn't really know all the details about your arrest at the time but

00:32:30.340 the proudest moment dude is when you walked into prison and stood before those sticks and just i

00:32:36.820 said that's the peter navarre no you made it about a issue bigger here's you're 70 some years old and

00:32:42.660 folks prison is federal prison is dangerous it's very dangerous for anybody but for guys in their 70s to

00:32:50.660 going to federal prison having been senior uh senior executives in the united states government

00:32:57.060 and particularly with president trump they're sending you in there to get with let me be blunt

00:33:02.100 okay pardon my french that's what they're doing and you i was so proud we covered it live you went up

00:33:07.780 to those sticks and you were just the fighting bantam rooster you always are tell me about prison

00:33:14.100 particularly the night before nervous all of it was the book tell me sir

00:33:20.580 see see that was a that was a surreal experience walking there um it was from the heart and i really

00:33:27.060 thank um you and rav uh for covering it and then the book ends of that is like i walked out of prison

00:33:35.140 on july 17th uh i think it was 1 a.m um and wound up on the stage of the republican national convention

00:33:43.300 basically um telling these people who had put me there for four months uh they're going to go to

00:33:49.540 hell that we're going to win that election and um you're going to be held accountable uh prison

00:33:54.500 steve it's uh what it called the book no country for old men but that title was taken um it was an

00:34:00.980 interesting experience but i think that um you and i both spent our time uh in a way which was was

00:34:09.780 useful for the american people i think the democrats will regret sending me to prison because i uncovered

00:34:17.780 what was a four billion dollar scandal uh with respect to how donald trump's signature prison

00:34:27.060 reform the first step back was not being implemented essentially the bop was breaking the law yeah i got

00:34:33.300 in there the funny story the first couple of days and there's a lot of funny stories as well as a lot of

00:34:38.820 blood and violence unfortunately um i i'm in there i'm out in the yard and these three guys surround me

00:34:46.420 and i'm thinking you know what could go wrong here and they're broken english uh one of the guys says

00:34:53.620 that that uh that they like me and i go why do you like me and it's like uh because you didn't snitch

00:35:00.740 and um i kept a poker face but i'm thinking i'm laughing at my ass off inside thinking the you know 0.76

00:35:07.860 what's the moral equivalence between me not talking to congress in order to honor to honor executive

00:35:16.180 privilege in the constitutional separation of powers and not stitching on your gang member when you just

00:35:22.580 robbed whatever it was and you know you know there were those kinds of experiences i i like one point

00:35:30.340 i i did arguably save one guy's life um there's a story in the book about that how i got him to a

00:35:38.340 hospital on an emergency base is really really moving story um and then just like the prison

00:35:45.540 economics how they they screw you at the commissary with with higher prices uh how the food like i lost

00:35:53.780 12 pounds to even i didn't have 12 pounds uh to lose uh the the the farm the medicines there they

00:36:02.340 don't give it to the inmates so guys who were on meds coming in and they don't get their meds they flip

00:36:08.180 out and there's there's difficulty there but you know look um before i went in i talked to uh paul

00:36:15.540 manafort and as bad as you and i had it steve um he arguably had it worse because he was

00:36:21.940 uh arrested and held without bail before he even got to trial for a long time and they really punished

00:36:28.580 the crap out of him but but he stressed the importance of working so every day i wrote the 0.55

00:36:33.540 diary which became uh the book i went to prison so you won't have to uh and every day i i took care of

00:36:43.140 of my my physical health as much as i could given the constraints of the diet i was like switzerland

00:36:50.260 in there it was we had 200 people in there about half of them were from puerto rico uh because i

00:36:57.140 don't know you know this steve but puerto rico doesn't have uh federal prisons to speak of because

00:37:03.220 there's too much corruption down there so they send them over to the mainland and so this idea that i was

00:37:08.900 in like a a camp you know i can can we joke about that but um most of those folks were in for drug

00:37:17.140 running fairly significant drug offenses often with guns uh you had like the haitians who were 1.00

00:37:24.900 always kind of like like the internet fraud the white guys were were the the white collar crime like 0.70

00:37:32.100 you know killing people with oxy and stuff like that or ripping off medicare

00:37:36.660 um and i just you know i was able to move seamlessly through that i was called on to

00:37:47.300 arbitrate some some disputes which could have led into violence and i became like the clubhouse

00:37:53.860 lawyer for the first step back when guys needed medical care i was the guy to call because i was

00:37:59.780 the only guy who could take risk if if people did what i did when i was on the inside they get what

00:38:05.460 called diesel therapy they'd be out the door the next day and they'd be on a bus moving from

00:38:10.420 atlanta out to oklahoma over to wherever um for for months on end um so look i made the my i made the

00:38:20.580 best of of what was a bad time and if uh now on the outside

00:38:27.540 hang on hang on but talk to us about i want to put us in there when you first walk in

00:38:31.140 yeah give us the experience like in the book you first walk in talk about talk about that because

00:38:35.860 you're transitioning from people don't understand this yeah yeah peter was in a camp but it was a

00:38:40.900 quite dangerous camp i was actually in a prison and when you walk in you have no freedom this is the

00:38:46.340 thing i want people to fully understand you and and it should scare this audience to its core

00:38:54.020 yeah peter navarre steve been pretty tough guys i'm telling you when you walk into a prison

00:38:58.260 you have given up when i say giving up your freedom you have it's not just freedom i can't

00:39:04.340 go see the family i can't run around go to starbucks that's not the freedom i'm talking about

00:39:09.460 all of your everything you do they own you you do you have no freedom of your micro in universe you

00:39:17.860 are a prisoner you are a convict you are an inmate okay you're nameless and faceless you got a number

00:39:25.140 and the cops and the uh in the corrections officers and the administrators and particularly not only

00:39:33.380 don't care in many situations or particularly given the fact that you're a trump uh acolyte and

00:39:40.020 associate aren't ready to give you a group hug so walk me through i get about 10 12 minutes here i

00:39:47.060 want you to go through when you walk away from those sticks yeah and go through there it's a difference

00:39:51.940 of night and day because you're going from you can do anything you want you can walk to the

00:39:56.340 refrigerator you can go here you can go there and cut the tv off you can read a book you can call

00:40:00.740 somebody on a phone that's all gone you lose all not your freedom to go to hawaii or something like that

00:40:08.340 you lose your freedom of your own person peter navarre yeah see it starts with like how do you prepare for

00:40:18.260 that day you walk in because i i had some responsibilities just things like paying the

00:40:24.580 mortgage taking care of pixie making sure everything on the outside was done you got to prepare your

00:40:30.900 contact list in advance is the people that you could call or email because they really really

00:40:36.820 constrained that so you're like you're like in this frenetic kind of thing trying to get ready for

00:40:41.380 that day you walk in and and you walk they go from the sticks in my flight jacket after a dress in the

00:40:49.140 world essentially um into a holding area where they take you in you you strip down they do the strip

00:40:58.020 search stuff uh everything you own goes into a bag and and and a packet and you're not going to hold it

00:41:04.420 hold it hold it hang on hang on it ain't it ain't a strip search it's a strip search means cavity check

00:41:11.380 okay yeah a cavity check it is it is as much to humiliate you as to make sure that nothing that

00:41:17.540 you're bringing in you're not bringing anything into prison so folks be prepared to grab them right

00:41:24.500 and have cops there and everything this is the entire experience is made to humiliate the entire

00:41:30.420 the entire experience is made they're trying to they're trying to the process they're trying to break

00:41:35.140 you and make you docile okay they're trying to institutionalize you and they've got a whole

00:41:41.300 system the bureau prison got a whole system of how that's going to happen right but you're going to be

00:41:47.220 theirs you're not going to be yours that that's the one thing you have to understand when you go in

00:41:51.780 mentally that you must keep your person about you you must be focused that's why for me it was an ex

00:41:59.700 it was an amazing um experience it's like being in a foreign country when you go to the exhilaration

00:42:06.260 of being in a foreign country everything's new and everything's different and your senses are more

00:42:10.260 on alert your senses have to be to the 10th power because you're in an environment where they're

00:42:15.780 trying to control you on one hand and it's quite dangerous given the general population on the other

00:42:21.300 you got to be like in a zen total focus or you're going to get crushed sir and and there was always

00:42:30.260 the danger there that because i was a trump guy and you you had it too they they could take you out

00:42:36.660 the first couple of days are the most dangerous because that's when the other inmates are checking

00:42:41.940 you out uh but but the first night was um was it was a was a darkly comic nightmare um there's a

00:42:51.380 chapter and i went to prison so you won't have to called the you know the coldest summer i ever uh

00:42:56.820 spent the coldest winter i ever spent was a summer in a miami prison because this is like the darkly 1.00

00:43:03.700 absurd kind of thing i go into my dorm and there's 50 guys in there they're all like looking at me they

00:43:09.940 you know i was like checking the the trump guy out and i'm about 10 minutes in there and i start

00:43:17.220 like my teeth are chattering and i go what the hell's going on here it was like it was like 59 degrees steve

00:43:24.500 in this dorm um in florida and i i would find out soon that lightning had struck the electronics of the

00:43:36.260 thermostat and they didn't spend a hundred bucks to fix it so instead they spent several thousand

00:43:42.900 dollars a month more basically running the air conditioner full bore so i'm like you know so like

00:43:50.980 just just freezing um i saw my first uh taste of humanity there too as well steve because of the inmates

00:43:59.700 the culture there was when when folks came in if you passed the test of not being a snitch and they

00:44:06.660 had ways of going on the legal legal uh websites to figure out whether you had snitched or not if you

00:44:12.900 pass that test they would help you get get your uh sneakers and and uh maybe a t-shirt and some some

00:44:20.900 running running pants whatever um until you were able to get the commissary you know like i get in

00:44:27.860 there and commissary just by chance is like shut down i won't be able to get the commissary to get

00:44:33.940 anything for three weeks so again darkly comic stuff i'm combing my hair literally steve with a fork

00:44:41.940 and it's like um you just you just try to get into the into the rhythms and and they take your freedom

00:44:49.700 let's be clear about it there's five counts a day right at every one of those counts you had to be

00:44:57.140 by your bunk standing at attention with your mouth shut they come by and and give you that that

00:45:04.260 look like you're a you know you're a pos and um if you're not there you you're you're going to the

00:45:11.780 shoot a solitary and um at night the part of the counts they come uh flash their lights in your eyes to

00:45:20.500 make sure you're breathing and stuff like that and we you know you and i joke about what's better

00:45:25.140 no no no hang on hang on hang on hang on all night all night all night long all night the counts go

00:45:29.940 at what 10 o'clock midnight two three times they come in they put that flashlight they put that

00:45:36.980 flashlight right in your face right they're going to make sure that you're yeah and and um yeah it's

00:45:44.580 like and then um you you try to find your rhythms uh the problem we had one of the problems we had

00:45:53.140 was we had a particularly aggressive with the sis they these squads that would come in um and toss the

00:46:01.460 units and break break stuff looking for contraband um well they're doing they're doing that they're

00:46:07.140 doing that for drugs the place okay the place the place are fested with drugs and phones you can't

00:46:13.940 have either right and this is why you have sis in my in my my place um there wasn't a lot of drugs there 1.00

00:46:23.860 was some marijuana but they were they didn't have the case stuff that you smoked that turns you into

00:46:28.820 zombies we had k2 but the point is that there was one guy i love this guy zach he he ran the uh the

00:46:35.460 the laundromat really hard-working guy um busted for you know the drugs and the gun and all of that

00:46:43.300 but he's trying to set his his life straight and he he one night joked for me it's a joke that that

00:46:48.580 that all they're looking for is stuff that you can buy in any 7-eleven and it was true like the the

00:46:55.780 the phones and things like that and um there's a funny story again i try to i try to i did the diary

00:47:01.860 every day kind of religiously sometimes like at two in the morning i'm standing up and there's no

00:47:07.060 computers any of that stuff to to do this stuff and i go to get a dental exam which was hilarious

00:47:13.940 in and of itself because they were going to see if i had any dental work that needed to be done

00:47:18.260 and if i did i wouldn't get it for another year when i was long gone right but this guy looks at looks

00:47:24.020 at my lips and he goes um you know you're getting a little dryness there it's prison uh and he goes um

00:47:31.460 you better get some some sunblock you need an spf of like at least 70 or 100. and i go um sir it's

00:47:39.460 like the only thing they sell is at the commissary is like it's like a 30 sunblock you know you get

00:47:45.300 fried out there and uh he goes well don't worry just go to walgreens and i go dude i called him dude at

00:47:53.700 that point it's like i'm in prison what what that you know knock knock um you know who's there and

00:48:00.980 stuff like that so i got it um i got i got a couple minutes hang on hang on i got a couple minutes left

00:48:06.580 this has been amazing but i want you to make directly to this audience why this book you need

00:48:12.260 to buy this book and why you need to read this book and why you need to embrace the lessons of this book

00:48:16.980 sir for the for the posse for the war room posse the the top line of this is if they can come for

00:48:24.660 me they can come for you if they come for steve bannon they can come for you and it's even worse

00:48:28.900 than that they're coming for you they want power back and they're coming for you and this book it's

00:48:35.620 the sixth stage of grief for charlie kirk it's we have to hold these people accountable so i want

00:48:41.940 if you would please posse like represent here we got to drive this to the bestseller list

00:48:47.620 and make a point because if we don't make this point that we're going to hold you accountable

00:48:53.700 they're going to do this as soon as they get power back so that's the top line of the book but

00:48:59.780 it's also a story uh that's that's just it's it's funny and interesting you want to know the answer to

00:49:06.740 what's it like to go to prison for a misdemeanor that you didn't really commit and be put in with

00:49:12.740 200 felons for a nice four-month vacation read the book and the other thing steve i look i haven't

00:49:19.060 talked about this but i actually went in there and i uncovered the scandal associated with the first

00:49:27.540 step act that donald trump passed in 2018 where it's not being enforced i put my policy hat on my

00:49:34.580 investigative reporter hat on i figured exactly how to save this country five billion dollars and

00:49:41.780 lower the rest of the rate by not just that yeah i got that i got that but you know what you're

00:49:47.780 going to do i've done exactly what i said needed to be done president trump and peter's people should

00:49:55.700 know peter and what he's doing over bop with jared and some other advisors is monumental and trying to

00:50:01.540 get this mess sorted out because it is a mess the guys running bop will tell you that rear of prisons

00:50:06.500 more importantly this is why i put out the statement i think it was 29 in in either august or

00:50:11.620 september i came out and said that president trump was going to win only time i ever put anything from

00:50:16.100 prison uh i think it was six weeks before the election trump's got this because of my understanding

00:50:21.460 of the prisoners and what peter's talking about the first step back president trump is kind of revered

00:50:25.940 for what he's trying to do for for on these mass incarcerations we got to bounce i want to know

00:50:31.220 where to go get your writings your editorials your coordinates on social media and the books are

00:50:37.940 well go to amazon right now buy one for yourself buy one for a friend amazon.com i went to prison

00:50:44.500 so you won't have to and by the way i just debuted got my old peter navarro.com website back up so

00:50:51.300 that's your one-stop shop for all my social media for the book and everything like that yeah and i

00:50:56.500 can't thank you enough steve for writing the forward to i went to prison so you won't have to for

00:51:01.540 publishing this under the war room brand and for having this hour-long thing be a force multiplier

00:51:07.220 posse for for us because what steve and i are doing is not for us it's for you no peter navarro

00:51:15.460 we're going to end with the right stuff because i'm telling you this is a guy that's got it that

00:51:20.980 kind of indescribable just grit determination patriotism all of it a great american a historic

00:51:28.180 american and the book is historic buy it to see what happened but put the lessons inside because guess

00:51:37.300 what it's not trump bannon and navarro they're coming for you hard we'll see you tomorrow morning

00:51:44.660 10 a.m eastern daylight time when you will be back in the world

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WarRoom Battleground EP 855： I Went To Prison So You Don't Have To

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