Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 861： “Trad Catholic Inc.” In Shock As “Pope” Leo Confirms He’s Just As Non-Catholic As “Pope” Francis

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:54.000 Good evening, Hanwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.

00:00:58.000 Packed, packed show for you guys today.

00:01:02.000 Coming up, we'll be discussing the Louisiana defrocked priest

00:01:07.000 who has just been arrested for raping a 10-year-old boy, disabled boy, in a wheelchair with autism.

00:01:17.000 We will be discussing President Trump's invocation of St. Michael the Archangel, what that might mean.

00:01:26.000 We'll also be discussing a senior appointment in the Vatican for the Pontifical Academy of Fine Arts,

00:01:33.000 where Pope Leo has appointed a strong LGBTQ advocate.

00:01:43.000 But that's not only where his undermining of Catholic doctrine is taking place right now.

00:01:51.000 Liz Yor, you have the latest on this astonishing interview that Pope Leo gave to EWTN and EWTN correspondent.

00:02:02.000 It was a spontaneous thing.

00:02:04.000 Before we break it down, why don't we have a quick look at exactly what Pope Leo said in his own words.

00:02:11.000 With Cardinal Cupich giving an award to Senator Durbin, some people of faith are having a hard time with understanding this

00:02:21.000 because he is pro, or rather, he's for legalized abortion.

00:02:26.000 How would you help people of faith right now decipher that, feel about that, and how do you feel about that?

00:02:33.000 I'm not terribly familiar with the particular case.

00:02:38.000 I think that it's very important to look at the overall work that a senator has done during, if I'm not mistaken,

00:02:46.000 40 years of service in the United States Senate.

00:02:50.000 I understand the difficulty and the tensions, but I think, as I myself have spoken in the past,

00:02:57.000 it's important to look at many issues that are related to what is the teaching of the Church.

00:03:02.000 Someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life.

00:03:08.000 So, someone who says that I'm against abortion but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants 1.00

00:03:17.000 who are in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life.

00:03:19.000 So, they're very complex issues. I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them.

00:03:26.000 I'm going to come to Frank in just a moment for his response, but let's start with you, Liz.

00:03:31.000 This is absolutely astonishing on so many different levels.

00:03:35.000 Here you have a man recognized as Pope, let me put it like that, a man recognized as Pope, the successor to St. Peter, the earthly guide of the Catholic Church,

00:03:50.000 making this claim that, and there are so many things, and you could basically have the whole show digesting what he just said word for word,

00:03:59.000 but basically saying, or literally saying, that if you are anti-abortion but pro-death penalty, you're not pro-life.

00:04:10.000 And if you are anti-abortion and anti-invasion, you're not pro-life.

00:04:17.000 You're not pro-life. There's a huge mix-up between what the Catholic Church teaches as faith and morals and what the Church teaches as a prudential issue.

00:04:28.000 For the non-Catholicist listening, prudential issues are those issues where Catholics of good faith can disagree.

00:04:34.000 They agree on the fundamental aims, but they're legitimately allowed diverging opinions on how to get there.

00:04:42.000 Classically, the immigration policy would be considered prudential.

00:04:47.000 That is to say, it's up to individual Catholics in good faith to decide how and what, if any, that level of immigration should be.

00:04:55.000 Whether you support the death penalty or not, I think might be prudential.

00:05:02.000 Abortion is absolutely not prudential.

00:05:04.000 But what you cannot say is that the death penalty is against Catholic teaching.

00:05:09.000 Liz, why don't you sort of take a step back and explain where we might have heard some of these ideas before

00:05:18.000 that Pope Leo exposed there in almost word-for-word perfection.

00:05:25.000 Where have we heard these ideas before?

00:05:27.000 And what does that mean for the future direction of this papacy?

00:05:32.000 Well, first of all, I think this is Leo's who am I to judge moment.

00:05:37.000 That's what I think.

00:05:38.000 You'll recall when Francis was asked a question about homosexual behavior in the clergy.

00:05:45.000 And he said, who am I to judge?

00:05:47.000 I would call the headline of this scandal, Leo exposed, Supich burned, and Durbin canceled. 0.90

00:05:55.000 You know, Bishop Papaki, who actually was one of the 10 bishops who said that this award brings a scandal to the church,

00:06:05.000 had no idea that this was going to bring scandal to the entire global church when Leo decided to weigh in.

00:06:14.000 And he walked right into it, and I think the Catholic Church needs to wake up.

00:06:19.000 This is a very revealing teaching moment.

00:06:24.000 Leo knows darn well what's going on in the American church.

00:06:28.000 And I thought it was very interesting, wasn't it, when he said, I'm not terribly familiar with this case.

00:06:34.000 And then he began to list all of the things that he knew about the case.

00:06:40.000 He knew that Dick Durbin was a senator for 40 years.

00:06:43.000 He knew his position on the death penalty.

00:06:45.000 He knew that Durbin was a big advocate of open borders and illegal immigration.

00:06:50.000 I would argue, you know, check out Leo's blink rate when he starts responding to this question.

00:06:57.000 He dug himself into another Bernadine seamless garment moment.

00:07:05.000 And the outrageous moral equivalency of arguing that abortion and euthanasia are equal to the death penalty and illegal immigration is outrageous.

00:07:19.000 And calling people who support the death penalty that they're really not pro-life.

00:07:25.000 I mean, look at the overall work of Dick Durbin.

00:07:29.000 He received 100% favorable rating from Planned Parenthood supporting laws that would not provide assistance for born alive babies who were the victims of abortion.

00:07:45.000 And he's calling this a complex issue.

00:07:47.000 And he's calling this a complex issue.

00:07:49.000 I don't know if anyone has the truth of them, is what he said.

00:07:53.000 And we need to find a way forward for the Catholic Church.

00:07:57.000 Look, I mean, this is absolutely outrageous.

00:08:01.000 And he is saying he is saying we need to dialogue on this issue.

00:08:06.000 Remember, this is a favorite word of Leo's dialogue.

00:08:10.000 And for example, in my opinion, abortion and illegal immigration aren't the same because unborn children in the womb cannot dialogue on their behalf.

00:08:22.000 Unborn, helpless children in the womb are murdered by suction or scalpel mutilation or poisoning.

00:08:29.000 They can't dialogue.

00:08:31.000 The illegal immigrants are not only given free lawyers. 0.88

00:08:35.000 They're given a paid trip back to their home country.

00:08:39.000 And, you know, unborn children in the womb aren't given a jury of their peers like people in death penalty cases.

00:08:48.000 Unborn children can't appeal their sentence.

00:08:51.000 They can't protest.

00:08:52.000 They don't have public defenders to advocate for them.

00:08:55.000 Frankly, it is the uncatholic.

00:08:59.000 It's uncatholic for Leo to even attempt to make these Weasley are UN arguments. 0.96

00:09:05.000 These Weasley satanic arguments by Joe Bernardine, who not only pushed the this agenda, but was a sexual predator. 0.87

00:09:17.000 You know, we have to start talking truth to power. 0.88

00:09:21.000 And look, Leo walked right into it.

00:09:25.000 He has nobody to blame himself.

00:09:27.000 I mean, the timing on this is quite interesting.

00:09:29.000 Had he waited a few hours, the the agreement this, you know, award was pulled ultimately because of the firestorm that it created in America.

00:09:41.000 Had Leo waited a few more hours, it would have been a moot point.

00:09:45.000 But look, Leo is a carbon cop.

00:09:47.000 But he didn't.

00:09:48.000 But he didn't.

00:09:49.000 But he didn't wait.

00:09:50.000 He rushed in and he left this.

00:09:53.000 He put a flag down.

00:09:54.000 I mean, of all the liberal progressive, you know, national Catholic reporter type platitudes, he didn't come out with.

00:10:04.000 It's probably the only one in his in his in his response was that, you know, you guys, you pro life guys only care about babies before they're born.

00:10:11.000 And you don't care about them at the moment.

00:10:13.000 That's the only thing he didn't say it going through his list.

00:10:16.000 Frank Walker, let me ask you now this, because you spend a lot of time.

00:10:23.000 In fact, I think you are the point guy that I would certainly highlight who goes through religiously what all of the Catholic media are up to and their breaks and their analysis on this.

00:10:36.000 Tell me one thing, because there had been a couple of people coming out.

00:10:42.000 Bishop Strickland, who was removed by Francis.

00:10:46.000 Let's see whether in Texas, I think it was Texas, wasn't it?

00:10:51.000 Let's see whether Leo gives him his diocese back.

00:10:55.000 But you had a couple of people coming out and going quite heavily on Cardinal Cupich for this this award on for Senator Dick Durbin.

00:11:10.000 And you had a lot of trad ink in the media doing so as well.

00:11:14.000 And then Leo comes out. This is the guy we're supposed to be not judging.

00:11:19.000 This is the guy we're supposed to be waiting to see how the paper signal unfolds.

00:11:23.000 Give him time to get his feet under his desk.

00:11:26.000 He comes out and gives Cardinal Cupich the most vociferous, full-throated endorsement on everything.

00:11:35.000 What are the people who've just been criticizing exactly the same declarations against Cardinal Cupich going to do now that Pope Leo has come out and repeated it?

00:11:47.000 They're in somewhat of a quandary now, right?

00:11:50.000 Well, they haven't had a hard time crying about it.

00:11:55.000 They're saying things like disgusting, disgraceful, that they've all turned.

00:12:00.000 All of a sudden, they've turned on Leo. And I think that hopefully they're going to stick with that.

00:12:05.000 They're going to keep telling the truth.

00:12:07.000 But it's amazing how far that Leo has fallen because they painted him as a Catholic.

00:12:13.000 They painted him as sort of like, I know, a Pope Benedict Catholic.

00:12:16.000 And now, perhaps it's a mistake on his part.

00:12:21.000 Perhaps it's bad politics.

00:12:23.000 But because this happened in conjunction with this Cardinal Cupich, where they made such a strong defense of Catholicism at the same time, it puts him right there with Cardinal Cupich, who is one of the most despised bishops among Catholics and in the church.

00:12:43.000 I mean, there's others that are maybe despised almost as much.

00:12:47.000 There's certainly others as despicable as Cardinal Cupich.

00:12:49.000 But he's he's the one that is the one who'll step out there and do what he did with with Cardinal Durbin.

00:12:55.000 Remember, I mean, with with Senator Durbin, when they were trying when the when they were the USCCB was having their meeting and they're trying to make pro-life a preeminent part of their of their position.

00:13:07.000 He fought them tooth and nail. And so now here he is, this pope who's supposed to be more Catholic.

00:13:14.000 And he's actually turning out to be I think I don't think that there's so much a mistake.

00:13:18.000 I think it's purposeful. I think he's angry about what they've done with with a supich. 1.00

00:13:23.000 I think he is a supich and he's teaming up with him trying to throw some clout, put some weight behind what supich is in the face of all of this, this some Catholic pushback. 0.51

00:13:34.000 So I think that from now on, people are going to know that Leo is and all these traditional writers are have to know that Leo is a supich.

00:13:45.000 He's the supich pope. Not only he's completely on the same position and he's different than Francis in that he has said doctrine can be changed by attitudes.

00:13:55.000 And here he is now, a week later, from the interview, saying that I'm not really sure, but this is this is you're not pro-life if you I'm not really sure about illegal aliens, but you're not pro-life if you're for the death penalty.

00:14:07.000 That's not church teaching. That's against Aquinas himself. The death penalty protects lives.

00:14:13.000 He never considered that, you know, it, this, this is a, this is a disgrace, like, like, but on that point, on that point, Frank Walker, what exactly does he mean when he says that Americans should search together for the truth on ethical issues?

00:14:31.000 Well, I know, uh, Cardinal Supich responded with a big long letter because, uh, Dick Durbin has pulled out of that event at the same time. Everything's happening at once.

00:14:41.000 So he pulled out of the, out of the event and in a two page response, uh, he ends, Cardinal Supich ends with saying, well, we need more synodality.

00:14:49.000 We need more, we need some of that synodality in order to make Leo's change of doctrine and the attitudes that must precipitate it happen.

00:14:57.000 Now, obviously you people need more synodality. What we need is a, is Catholic leadership somewhere in the church. We need a leader, a pope who actually expresses that. I mean, doctrine hasn't disappeared.

00:15:10.000 There's still a billion people out there that believe it. And, but these guys are pretending that they can change it. And that's not going to go over. All that's going to do is destroy the Catholic church.

00:15:21.000 No, we don't need any more synodality. And this is a great example of what synodality is all about. It's about death.

00:15:28.000 Um, thanks standby. Cause we're going to come back now to you to break down some of the developments, um, in our little corner of Christendom.

00:15:41.000 Um, but I just, before handing over before, before, before, before we do that, I, um, I want to highlight an analysis on everything that we've just been speaking about by, uh, Chris Jackson.

00:15:53.360 I know we mentioned him from time to time, uh, on the war room, on this slot, on this 6 PM slot.

00:16:01.940 Um, I just want to, one quote, the real betrayal is that traditional media kept their readers from seeing this Pope Leo intervention coming.

00:16:12.760 They knew it, they hid it, they mocked those who spoke up.

00:16:16.260 Every single person in this article is someone that we would have put a question mark.

00:16:21.620 Thanks Denver, that's the article I'm talking about.

00:16:23.320 Um, every single person listed in this article is someone that we, that we, the war room might've said, just pay attention to these guys because they're more interested in conditioning the news for you than telling you the news and letting you make your own mind up.

00:16:39.740 And they're doing this because the, the grift implications.

00:16:42.240 The only person in this article who's named in a positive sense, um, is Liz Yor, the war room's very own Liz Yor.

00:16:50.840 Um, and that's because here on this war room, we have within the first 25 hours been alerting and warning people to exactly what this, um, what this pontificate represents and why Leo was chosen.

00:17:05.180 Um, and I say, as I said last Wednesday, I'll say it again.

00:17:09.800 The three sources I think are the war room, Chris Jackson, and of course, Canon 212, Frank Walker's very own website, which I do very strongly recommend you folks.

00:17:20.840 As a, as a, as a go-to source every day.

00:17:22.680 And I look at it myself every day.

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00:18:32.720 So moving on with the show, one of the headlines that I saw this week, which, which shocked even me, and I, you know, I thought my beady cynical eyes had seen it all.

00:18:47.040 There is a priest here, former priest, defrocked priest here, um, in Louisiana, who has been arrested for raping, repeatedly raping, starting when he was age 10, a disabled boy in a wheelchair with autism.

00:19:04.540 Frank Walker, tell me about this case, uh, and is it really as horrific as it sounds?

00:19:10.740 Yes, it is quite horrific.

00:19:14.740 I question whether, uh, I mean, how uncommon these kinds of things are actually, but when you read about it, it's just awful.

00:19:22.000 It's this, uh, priest, Father Mark, Mark Francis Ford.

00:19:25.260 He's no longer a priest, but he, uh, he, um, had, uh, a group founded to help disabilities and through this disability group.

00:19:34.580 And this is the kind of thing that you've seen before with, um, uh, Jane Vanier and Jimmy Saville, people who have groups of children that they, that they care about and they have this, it's sort of to protect their, their proclivity. 0.51

00:19:48.640 So he, yeah, when he was 10 years old, he met this boy and he had sex with this boy.

00:19:53.140 He's, um, you know, he has a spinal, uh, deteriorating spinal condition, and he's also somewhat autistic.

00:19:59.500 He has classified as a juvenile permanently.

00:20:02.760 Now he's 31 years old for, for, for, for, I think for 16 years, he molested this boy.

00:20:07.480 And, uh, somewhere along the line in this article, it says they, he left the priesthood, but they don't say why.

00:20:12.780 And then he went into the government.

00:20:14.380 I'm not sure if he, I don't think he was a priest necessarily when he went into the government, he started with the Democrat Blanco government in New Orleans.

00:20:20.720 And then with Bobby Jindal's government when he was governor.

00:20:23.440 So it didn't make any difference.

00:20:25.260 And he's supposedly part Indian.

00:20:27.820 And, uh, so he moved into helping both, you know, indigenous people and, and, uh, and, uh, um, and disabled children.

00:20:36.240 But, uh, if you look at the picture of him, it's quite striking, um, because he's, he's, needs to be extradited from, I think, from Indiana to New Orleans.

00:20:44.580 But the look on his face, he does not look sorry.

00:20:48.160 He looks like he's got such, it's sort of a frightening attitude to see the look of this guy's face.

00:20:53.140 He's charged with first degree rape, second degree kidnapping, sexual battery, and indecent behavior with a juvenile.

00:20:59.080 And, uh, and, and this is all in the context of this big, um, uh, a New Orleans bankruptcy case.

00:21:05.640 And they're, they're replacing, and now they've $230 million they've offered in bankruptcy.

00:21:11.480 And, and we talked about this before at your show, but they're, they're replacing Archbishop Amon, who has a history of accusations in his seminary that are also gruesome.

00:21:22.320 The, the bishop, the archbishop, they've been replaced with Bishop Cecchio, who is a McCarrick, another McCarrick bishop who Leo has put in place.

00:21:31.920 You know, you know, more evidence, this guy, this guy ran the Pontifical North American College, which is like the bishop making college, where 10% of the, of the students were, had AIDS.

00:21:43.540 You know, and, and he's, and he worked together with McCarrick and there's just a lot of stuff on Cecchio.

00:21:49.540 He's not going to be, he's not going to be any good.

00:21:51.620 And it's all part of the same thing.

00:21:52.940 The reason Frank Walker, that we, that we mentioned these developments, these stories on the show is not to create scandal, but to warn faithful Catholics that the people who, who ordain these men, the bishops who ordain, who choose these men, specifically these men for ordination, they sift out all the, all the good guys with strong Catholic faith.

00:22:21.780 They say, no, you can't, we won't make you a priest because you're too rigid.

00:22:25.120 The people that they go ahead and ordain these people, right?

00:22:28.880 These bishops, these are the people that expect us to docilely, docilely submit to their authority.

00:22:38.200 And that's why you mentioned these stories on the show, not to create scandal, but say to the Catholic faithful, these are the people, the men that expect us to docilely submit to their authority have been doing this.

00:22:51.780 Enabling this, covering for this for decades, for decades and decades and decades.

00:22:59.460 And that's why we're on the wall and say that we have to take the, the, the, the governance of the, the laity needs to take the governance of the, of the Catholic church out of the bishop's hands and into, into the hands of, of well-formed believing laity.

00:23:15.280 Because we will certainly stamp this sort of thing out.

00:23:18.380 Frank, moving on, I know we, we, we've got a, we've got a break coming up in just a couple of minutes, but I do want you to, if you can, just tell us what happened in my beloved, there are so many horror stories,

00:23:30.340 but we don't have time for the, for the, for the one in Switzerland, sadly, but my beloved homeland, there's a guy in a, in a, in a riot in Birmingham who was saying who the F is Allah.

00:23:42.580 Now you might not approve of the language.

00:23:44.920 You might not approve of the swearing.

00:23:47.240 You might not approve of being deliberately provocative towards another religion, but what has happened to him in the UK, Frank Walker?

00:23:55.040 Well, he's been, he's been convicted of insulting Islam, which is sort of like what they call blasphemy laws.

00:24:04.580 So he, he was in, he was sort of, they said he was a leader of the rally.

00:24:07.660 He's a big burly guy.

00:24:08.940 He's a paver, a tarmacker, they said.

00:24:11.540 And he, but he, you know, there were people throwing things.

00:24:14.780 There were people waving sticks and hurling, they called missiles at people.

00:24:19.060 They're, he's only, they say he only was yelling at the police and this, who the F is Allah is recorded.

00:24:26.600 And this is what they got him on because, you know, that is illegal.

00:24:31.540 I don't, I don't know if it would work the other way because in a, you know, you can't pray in front of abortion where even silently in the UK, I think that these laws are all, all one-sided.

00:24:43.920 Yeah. And he was very sorry in the, in the court, you know, but I wonder, I wish that his testimony could actually say what he thought, because what are they supposed to do?

00:24:54.620 And why are, my question is, why are these things happening in this country?

00:24:57.900 I know it's because of the crime, but I think they're looking and they're saying, we have to yell at the police because we have no justice.

00:25:03.640 And, and they're Islamicizing our country and they can see now what it's going to become. 1.00

00:25:08.820 And I, I think it's like, it's like this stage back from a war.

00:25:14.220 So, so the, the, the, the, the, the, the background of this is that Nathan Poole, who's a, as you say, a 32 year old tarmac layer, but that is to say a blue collar worker, regular guy, has been jailed for 30 months.

00:25:30.260 Folks, he has been a guy, a guy, a guy protesting in Birmingham, which has a huge ethnic minority, majority, has been sent to prison for 30 months because he said, who the F is Allah.

00:25:45.780 Um, that's where we are in the UK now.

00:25:49.460 Um, it is, it is a Sharia state. 0.92

00:25:52.100 That's it.

00:25:52.640 If you are implementing, using the secular laws of the land to protect and defend the integrity of Islam, that makes it a Sharia state in all but name. 0.94

00:26:04.800 Um, because they have the arithmetic, um, the Muslims have the arithmetic and the Catholics and the Christians and evangelicals in the, in the UK are so few in number now. 0.96

00:26:15.540 Um, we, we don't even create a ripple when it comes to legislation.

00:26:18.960 There are no blasphemy laws to protect Christians when you have these great art installations.

00:26:26.280 And we'll talk about that, um, just after this break.

00:26:28.820 But you have these art installations which are clearly blasphemous, clearly, um, outrageous and designed to generate social media engagement because of their provocations towards figures that Christians esteem in holding great reverence like Jesus Christ, like his Blessed Mother, the Virgin Mary.

00:26:48.340 Um, there are no blasphemy laws to protect Christians there.

00:26:52.600 But blasphemy laws, yes, to protect Islam from offense.

00:26:57.200 That is the modern-day United Kingdom.

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00:31:23.660 Well, last week, something that I said created a lot of discussion on X.

00:31:30.420 that I noticed, and it wasn't very complimentary towards myself, it was referring to Charlie Kirk

00:31:37.340 wearing a medallion of Saint Michael the Archangel.

00:31:41.260 And I happen to say that I think this is the work of the Holy Spirit, that evangelicals, some evangelicals, obviously not all, some evangelicals are finding some spiritual consolation in the traditional Catholic devotionals.

00:32:04.380 And they ripped me a new one on X.

00:32:07.040 They said, Han, well, you don't know what you're talking about.

00:32:09.000 No evangelicals are getting any sustenance from your popish magical amulets and all the rest of it. 0.99

00:32:19.760 But I hold very much to this.

00:32:23.360 I think the Holy Spirit is at work.

00:32:26.920 And I think it's beautiful to see that some evangelicals are getting some spiritual riches out of the traditional Catholic devotionals.

00:32:36.100 And I'm perfectly happy for this to be a two-way relationship, that Catholics can also be enriched by some certain evangelical practices.

00:32:50.820 I say that as a former Protestant.

00:32:52.160 I think the evangelicals do certain things better than Catholics, and that we would be stronger if we were able to learn from evangelicals.

00:33:07.720 And this is something that I've long thought, that the problem with ecumenism over the years, over the decades, has effectively been.

00:33:17.640 It's been the Catholics who don't believe a word of their faith getting together with Protestants who don't believe a word of their faith, 0.92

00:33:26.720 producing meaningless, unreadable declarations about how much they all hold in common.

00:33:32.700 Well, of course, they hold lots in common, principally that neither of them, none of them believe any words of their own faiths.

00:33:39.580 It's just a grift, it's just a shtick that they use to put a roof over their heads and food on the table and social reputation of being in the clergy.

00:33:53.600 But there's no real faith there.

00:33:54.920 And what I would like to see is traditional Catholics, the ecumenism I would like to see is traditional Catholics coming together with believing evangelicals,

00:34:12.920 especially in the public square, especially to fight for the issues that are important to Christians.

00:34:21.400 So that's something else I would like to say, as I was saying in the first part of the show,

00:34:28.000 that we need to take the management of the laity, the Catholic laity needs to take the management of the winning of the Catholic Church into its own hands from the bishops.

00:34:36.640 And the other thing I would like to see, one of the other things I would like to see is an ecumenism where traditional Catholics can embrace conservative evangelicals. 0.99

00:34:49.400 And I have no problem when evangelicals say, all you Catholics, you're all going to hell. 0.97

00:34:57.280 I don't have any problem. I respect that. 0.99

00:34:59.620 What I don't really like are evangelicals who will sit on their hands and say, oh, no, we don't want to upset Catholics.

00:35:05.320 And Eden, Catholics should have courage as well in expositioning, laying out why we believe what we believe.

00:35:18.560 That, I think, is something that we, the laity, can do because our hireling shepherd leaders certainly aren't going to help with that.

00:35:28.000 So why that introduction? Well, on the back of everyone on X saying, oh, well, you have no idea what you're talking about.

00:35:36.320 No, no evangelicals are drawing sustenance from Catholic devotionals.

00:35:42.420 President Trump put out a message on the feast of St. Michael, the archangel.

00:35:53.500 Now, I'm not going to say that President Trump is doing this and therefore all evangelicals should follow his line.

00:35:59.580 Because I don't really know how substantial a believer President Trump is.

00:36:06.340 I certainly think the Holy Spirit, when President Trump is doing things to advance Christendom here on Earth,

00:36:14.180 I certainly think the Holy Spirit is working through him.

00:36:16.960 I think that is absolutely clear.

00:36:18.900 I think when that bullet missed President Trump by a mere whisker in Butler, Pennsylvania last year, I think that was the Holy Spirit.

00:36:29.580 At work. Liz York, tell us then a bit about what President Trump said about Christians.

00:36:41.620 I don't even see the word Catholic in here, in his statement.

00:36:45.440 Tell us a bit about what he said about St. Michael, the archangel, why it's important, why Catholics think it's important.

00:36:54.100 And with the greatest of, really, what I was just saying, the greatest of respect and openness towards our evangelical brothers and sisters, why they might find it important as well.

00:37:05.280 Yes, I was personally astonished by this statement from President Trump.

00:37:11.380 I'd like to read a portion of it because I think it's very compelling.

00:37:16.180 And, you know, for those of us, you know, my work in child protection, St. Michael has been an integral part.

00:37:23.220 I began to learn about him, pray to him daily to protect children.

00:37:28.760 And so for me as a Catholic, my devotion to St. Michael is very great.

00:37:35.480 And also, I think, so I was thrilled to see this, but this is what President Trump issued on the feast day of St. Michael, the archangel.

00:37:43.480 Today, I salute the millions of Christian believers in the United States and around the world, observing the feast of St. Michael, the archangel.

00:37:52.140 According to sacred scripture, when the devil rebelled against God in heaven, St. Michael and his legion of angels cast Satan down to earth, triumphantly asserting God's sovereignty over all creation.

00:38:05.640 For 2,000 years, Christians have looked to St. Michael, the archangel for protection, strength, and courage in times of conflict, distress, and doubt.

00:38:16.780 And in 1886, nearly 140 years ago, the Pope Leo XIII, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church, fearing for the future of the Western world, introduced the legendary prayer to St. Michael, which is still recited to this day in churches and homes and after masses all across the nation and throughout the world.

00:38:43.020 And then he lists the prayer.

00:39:13.020 An inspiration, somebody that we can turn to in these times, which clearly need the protection of the angels.

00:39:23.200 Many of us, both Christians and Catholics, certainly believe in our guardian angels, to pray to our guardian angels every morning.

00:39:31.440 So I think this is a very compelling message from President Trump.

00:39:36.860 And, you know, frankly, you know, this is, here we are, ironically coming from, you know, a secular, I guess, Christian in the White House, extolling a beloved saint in the Catholic Church, when, you know, we're talking previously about, you know, the quote unquote vicar of Christ, who is promoting a secular agenda.

00:40:03.100 So, you know, the irony is quite great.

00:40:33.080 And this is certainly a powerful figure and devotion that I would encourage, especially now as we face all the challenges in the world, that we learn St. Michael's prayer.

00:40:46.440 And that those Catholics that aren't saying it after mass, this is something, you know, this, you talk about the laity.

00:40:52.400 This is something that the laity can do once mass ends to just on your own, start praying loudly the St. Michael prayer.

00:41:00.260 And it does catch on.

00:41:01.500 I've seen it in many parishes.

00:41:02.920 It's it's it's it's this is totally unpredicted, I think, of the out of the Trump phenomenon that we're seeing a figure here who has done more, I think, to unashamedly defend.

00:41:22.620 And the presence of Christianity in the public square, probably, I don't know, than than any other president for two centuries.

00:41:34.320 Yes.

00:41:34.960 And becoming and becoming and becoming and when he puts out statements like this and he's nobody like we've seen the memes with with president, the AI design means of President Trump in the full paper or Schmutter, right, which are very amusing.

00:41:54.400 But really, Donald Trump is nobody's idea of a traditional Catholic icon.

00:42:01.600 And yet, when he pushes out.

00:42:07.640 Congratulatory note, note statements like this, I didn't say anything, by the way, as you're saying, Liz, I didn't say anything myself similarly put out by by Pope Leo.

00:42:20.520 But I might have missed that.

00:42:21.880 But when he does that, he's becoming in himself a point of unity between Catholics and traditional Catholics who look to President Trump as being their political point of inspiration and also evangelicals who look to the same President Trump for political inspiration.

00:42:42.700 And he's putting out these statements.

00:42:45.040 And I think this is the Holy Spirit.

00:42:46.460 I really do.

00:42:47.880 I really do.

00:42:48.560 No one else could have put out a statement like this and gotten away with it and not been pilloried by either side.

00:42:56.120 I think it's a beautiful thing that he's done.

00:42:58.060 And I mention again that Charlie Kirk, who is definitely becoming the cornerstone.

00:43:03.720 I think I've seen it referred to as the Third American Revival now after his martyrdom.

00:43:10.120 He was wearing the medallion to St.

00:43:13.480 St. Michael, the archangel.

00:43:14.700 And my message then, therefore, to all baptized of goodwill, just that there's a spiritual richness in some of these things that you might be evangelical.

00:43:28.980 You might even be Catholic and say, I would know, you know, I wouldn't even think about wearing a devotional.

00:43:33.360 But these things are – they are having a renaissance.

00:43:39.560 And I think that is the Holy Spirit's work.

00:43:41.460 And I think the Holy Spirit is working through President Donald Trump on something like this, where he puts out this statement.

00:43:52.380 Look, we only got, I think, five minutes for the show left.

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00:45:02.160 Now, staying with Pope Leo XIV, he's just made an appointment of Christiana Perella as the new head of the Pontifical Academy for Fine Arts, an appointment that some people are calling scandalous.

00:45:19.260 Frank Walker, tell us a bit about this appointment and why is it getting some people so concerned?

00:45:26.260 Well, I mean, it's completely outrageous.

00:45:30.500 I read about this a couple weeks ago and it was just shocking because what I was reading came with the photos.

00:45:36.160 Christiana Perella is the new head of the Pontifical Academy of Fine Arts. 0.75

00:45:40.760 And she's sort of a pornographer. 1.00

00:45:45.480 In 2019, she had an exhibition called Night Fever, which supported gay claims. 0.95

00:45:51.740 In 2020, she depicted naked bodies, some of them in homoerotic poses.

00:45:58.280 In 2021, she had posters of adult films.

00:46:01.860 And this is what I remember.

00:46:02.900 I mean, this is like this is graphic pornography.

00:46:07.040 That's what that's what her art is.

00:46:09.120 When you think of the Vatican fine arts, you don't you don't think of this.

00:46:13.820 And in 2022, Francis appointed her to the Academy of Fine Arts.

00:46:17.940 This is just a promotion for her. 0.60

00:46:19.380 Now Leo has made her in charge.

00:46:22.720 It's just if you could if you could see the photos of what this lady actually promotes and it's supposed to be coming out of the Vatican. 1.00

00:46:30.540 You think of a Vatican, which is just sort of a rotting corpse full of worms. 0.58

00:46:36.500 I mean, that's what this is. 0.92

00:46:37.520 That's what a shocking person this is.

00:46:39.380 And, you know, Leo has pushed a lot of women in high places, nuns in high places.

00:46:47.660 And with them come all these new kind of pathologies from from a feminine perspective. 1.00

00:46:53.940 And it's just more of the same.

00:46:55.780 And at this at this piece of Rorati Celi, it has to do with with the softness of trad ink, because that's sort of a trad ink site.

00:47:03.000 Right. And the way that they handle it is I completely the opposite of how you would want to handle it.

00:47:09.240 They say that it's a decision that cannot be exempt from our reservations.

00:47:12.820 There could be some problem of governance on the part of Pope Leo. 0.91

00:47:17.720 He's being too pressured too much by the gay lobby. 0.99

00:47:21.020 He Pope Leo is the gay lobby. 1.00

00:47:23.840 You know, what price unity? 0.98

00:47:26.080 You know, these are the things they're saying.

00:47:27.420 They should be exclaiming outrage at this person.

00:47:32.640 It's just unbearably mild.

00:47:34.820 And.

00:47:37.580 But this is the issue.

00:47:38.840 You have to see the picture.

00:47:40.460 It's exactly the point.

00:47:41.720 This is exactly the point.

00:47:43.120 This is the winning theme of today's show.

00:47:45.680 Faithful Catholics do not give your docility to these people, not not to your bishops, not to to to your cardinals and certainly not to the pope, because these people do not have your your faith, the faith that you love, the faith that you cherish.

00:48:02.800 They do not have these things at heart.

00:48:05.900 Or in fact, all they're trying to do is undermine this.

00:48:08.300 Liz, just give me 90 seconds, your reaction to this appointment.

00:48:12.920 Earlier in the show, we were talking about truth being assaulted by Leo and that he was undermining 2000 years of the truth of the Catholic Church and the dog mother church. 0.82

00:48:24.880 Now we have the assault on beauty.

00:48:27.480 We saw that last week when the LGBT scandal in St.

00:48:33.200 Peter's Basilica, where they walked in with LGBT paraphernalia and blasphemous T-shirts. 1.00

00:48:40.620 This is the attack on the Catholic Church, everything that the church stands for, truth, beauty, and it's being assaulted, minimized, erased by the new synodal church.

00:48:56.560 The new synodal church is the promotion of the LGBT eroticism, and this is it on display. 1.00

00:49:07.120 And they are becoming part of the secular world.

00:49:11.060 They are embracing the secular world.

00:49:14.100 So none of this is surprising.

00:49:16.040 It's all strategic by the Vatican, and these appointments are going to continue to shock and be absolutely undermining the faith of 2000 years.

00:49:29.120 So hold on to your hats.

00:49:31.140 I mean, this is very troubling.

00:49:33.700 And, you know, as a woman, I'm insulted that he hires these women to promote this pornography and debasement of the arts and culture when we have 2000 years of magnificent art and culture and music. 0.98

00:49:50.860 And what did we see?

00:49:52.520 We saw last week, we saw Bam Bam, the Thai rap musician in St. Peter's Square with the vile lyrics of, you know, Clips, another rap group.

00:50:06.800 So they are, the Vatican is embracing the lower base nature of man.

00:50:13.420 And we're going to see it continue under this, Leo.

00:50:18.580 Folks, you heard it there, right?

00:50:20.260 That is the synthesis.

00:50:21.980 Leo Vatican is coordinating a full frontal assault on truth, goodness, and beauty.

00:50:29.860 But the point you mentioned, Liz, I think is absolutely perfect.

00:50:33.120 If it wasn't obvious from what these people had done to the liturgy of the last 60 years with the assault on beauty, now they're making it explicit.

00:50:42.160 Now, folks, they are giving you no wiggle room to claim that you can't see what's going on.

00:50:47.020 This is in-your-face pornography in the Vatican masquerading itself as art.

00:50:53.480 Lizzie, where do people go on social media to keep up with your analysis?

00:50:58.120 My sub-state is Elizabeth Yor.

00:51:00.080 Your children is my website and everywhere on social media under Elizabeth Yor.

00:51:06.320 Frank Walker?

00:51:07.080 Canon 212 with one N. 0.96

00:51:09.960 Type it up in the address line.

00:51:11.540 And also, if you want to see the daily update, it's at Rumble and it's at Gloria TV.

00:51:16.260 That's brilliant.

00:51:17.080 Don't forget, folks, Canon 212 is undergoing the algorithmic distractions.

00:51:24.020 They don't want you to see the site.

00:51:26.520 Type it in the browser bar yourself and there you will get the breaking news in the Catholic sphere as it happens.

00:51:34.440 Thanks to Lizzie or Frank Walker.

00:51:36.100 Thanks to Spencer and Will and the great team in Denver for putting this show together.

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Bannon's War Room - October 01, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 861： “Trad Catholic Inc.” In Shock As “Pope” Leo Confirms He’s Just As Non-Catholic As “Pope” Francis

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