Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 863： LeoChurch In US Authorises First “Gaywashed” Bible And Germany In Shock As INVADER Shoves Ukrainian Girl Under Train

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00:00:54.000 Good evening, Ben Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.

00:00:58.000 First guest up tonight, because we've got a lot to go through.

00:01:02.000 Peter Wolfgang, the executive director of the Connecticut Family Institute.

00:01:07.000 Peter, you wrote a fascinating article just a couple of days ago.

00:01:13.000 Discussing this theory, the thesis of gay washing in the latest translations of the Bible. 0.57

00:01:21.000 I'm going to ask you to break this down a little bit.

00:01:24.000 But before I do, I just want to be specific about the edition of the Bible that we're using.

00:01:30.000 I use the Ignatius Study Bible, right, which is the, let me get this right.

00:01:35.000 It's the New Revised Standard Version, Second Catholic Edition.

00:01:40.000 OK.

00:01:41.000 And the version we're talking about now is the New Revised Standard Version, Updated Edition, Catholic Edition.

00:01:53.000 Right. OK. That's a bit of a, that's a bit of a breath full.

00:01:57.000 Well, however, the importance of this, first of all, the somewhat dodgy translations here have been highlighted really by the Protestants.

00:02:09.000 But the interest to Catholics is that the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the USCCB, has now authorised this version.

00:02:19.000 That's where it becomes important, because authorised for home use and presumably further down the line for liturgical use as well.

00:02:28.000 So, Peter, why don't we start off and discuss the term that's capturing our interest for the next 20 minutes, which is used, I think, both in 1 Corinthians, but also in a letter to Timothy.

00:02:45.000 What does that mean?

00:02:48.000 What does that word mean?

00:02:50.000 Why don't you start off by saying what has that word always meant in the last 2,000 years?

00:02:55.000 And what does it mean by the stroke of a pen today?

00:03:00.000 Well, Ben, first of all, thank you.

00:03:02.000 It's a great honour to be on your show.

00:03:05.000 And you're asking me specifically about an article that I wrote this week for CatholicCulture.org.

00:03:12.000 People can go to that website and read it.

00:03:15.000 It's up right now.

00:03:16.000 The article is titled, Bishops Approve Gay-Washed Bible.

00:03:21.000 And the word that you're talking about is, I'm probably going to mispronounce it myself, but it is a Greek word.

00:03:28.000 It is found in both 1 Corinthians 6, verse 9, and 1 Timothy 1, verse 10.

00:03:36.000 It's the only two times in the New Testament that that word appears.

00:03:40.000 St. Paul coined the word himself.

00:03:43.000 And the word, the Greek word, is arsenokoite, arsenokoite. 0.89

00:03:48.000 And what that word has always been understood to mean until the most recent translation of the New Revised Standard Version Bible, the updated edition, is men who have sex with men. 0.59

00:04:03.000 It's one of St. Paul's two condemnations of homosexual practice that appears in the New Testament.

00:04:11.000 And the reason I use the word gaywash, that phrase, it does not originate with me.

00:04:16.000 I am quoting a Protestant scholar by the name of Robert A.J. Gagnon.

00:04:21.000 He is one of the foremost scholars on the Bible and homosexuality. 0.96

00:04:26.000 And he was the one who sounded the alarm three years ago when the New Revised Standard Version updated edition.

00:04:34.000 I'm going to refer to it as the NRSVUE for short.

00:04:38.000 Although that's already six letters.

00:04:40.000 It's already a mouthful.

00:04:42.000 But he was the one who first sounded the alarm when the NRSVUE came out three years ago that for the first time ever, in a major way, that a major respected Bible translation had essentially taken out St. Paul's condemnation of homosexual activity, at least in these two verses.

00:05:08.000 Now, it does still appear in other parts of the Bible, but it's in the NRSVUE, the NRSV updated edition.

00:05:16.000 But it's important to back up and explain why that's still a problem going forward.

00:05:21.000 Let's just recapitulate that point, OK?

00:05:26.000 This is the first time, or certainly within the authoritative translations, this is the first time this word has been translated out of its traditional context, right?

00:05:41.000 To have a translation rendered into English that is explicitly nothing to do with homosexual practice.

00:05:48.000 Yes, the NRSVUE, I'm quoting someone else here, is the first major English Bible to suddenly find arsenokoite, impossible to translate.

00:06:00.000 And this person argued, as other people did, that that's not an accident.

00:06:05.000 And we need to back up and talk about that.

00:06:07.000 How did we arrive at this place?

00:06:09.000 Why was this word, which has always been understood, you know, the Greek was never that uncertain.

00:06:15.000 I mean, if you want to, you can say almost every word when you're translating the Bible is uncertain.

00:06:20.000 But for most of the history of the English translation of the Bible, people understood what that word meant until historically speaking the day before yesterday or about three years ago when the NRSV updated edition came out.

00:06:34.000 And I don't think it's an accident that it was the mainline Protestant churches that this is their flagship Bible, the NRSV now updated edition, that ended up doing this.

00:06:48.000 And the reason you and I are having this discussion right now is because three years later in 2025, just this week, the Catholic bishops have given their imprimatur to it.

00:06:59.000 And I think we need to back up and discuss that.

00:07:01.000 If I can, I want to start with something that you started with, actually, the Ignatius Study Bible.

00:07:07.000 I cannot recommend it highly enough.

00:07:09.000 That translation is the Revised Standard Version Second Catholic Edition.

00:07:16.000 It's a great translation.

00:07:18.000 It's something that we owe largely to Ignatius Press.

00:07:22.000 In the year 2006, it was Ignatius Press that worked with the Vatican at that time to get approval of that translation for those Catholics,

00:07:33.000 those tiny number of Catholics who belong to the Anglican Ordinariate, which is something that Pope Benedict founded for Anglicans who convert to Catholicism.

00:07:42.000 If you, the mass that you go to, the liturgy you go to, that's the translation that you hear.

00:07:47.000 And it's very beautiful.

00:07:49.000 And it's something that goes all the way back to the King James Version of the Bible.

00:07:53.000 That's right. The point about the beauty behind the New Revised Standard Version Second Catholic Edition is that the underlying NRSV text was done really in collaboration between Protestants and Catholics,

00:08:11.000 with the idea that both Protestants and Catholics can use it and can have faith in it.

00:08:16.000 There is, of course, the Catholic version, which where there are some contentious renderings, historical, traditional renderings in both ways.

00:08:27.000 It's been based mainly on the King James Version, of course.

00:08:31.000 But so there is that Catholic version that irons out some of the things to make it to make some of these nuances more acceptable in light of Catholic tradition.

00:08:39.000 But the underlying text here, and this is the important thing, is that it was designed, I think, what, 20 or 30 years ago when they first produced the core text as an ecumenical project without selling out either side.

00:08:53.000 And that's important. And it is an absolutely excellent rendering.

00:08:57.000 Yeah. So there's three different Bibles that we're talking about here.

00:09:01.000 There's the RSV from the mid-20th century, the Revised Standard Version.

00:09:06.000 Then there's the New Revised Standard Version, the NRSV.

00:09:10.000 And then there's the Bible that brings us to our conversation today, which is the NRSV updated edition.

00:09:17.000 So the RSV, what happened was the King James Version is a beautiful Bible, sunk deep roots into English language and culture, goes back to the early 17th century.

00:09:28.000 It was a Protestant Bible. The Catholics had the Douay Reims, the Protestants had the King James Bible.

00:09:33.000 A landmark event in religious history in the 20th century in the English speaking world was the creation of the Revised Standard Version, RSV, which is an ecumenical Bible.

00:09:44.000 There's a Protestant version and there's a Catholic version.

00:09:47.000 And for the first time you had a Catholic, you had a Bible in common for both Catholics and Protestants.

00:09:54.000 The Catholic Bible was slightly different. But for the first time you had a Catholic Bible that was in the lineage of the beautiful King James Version Bible.

00:10:03.000 Then what happened was in 1989, the RSV was updated by the National Council of Churches, Mainline Protestants, and you got the NRSV.

00:10:14.000 Now that was controversial. The Bible that Ignatius Press has now is not an NRSV.

00:10:21.000 It specifically calls itself the RSV Catholic Edition or Second Catholic Edition for a reason.

00:10:28.000 In the late 1980s, early 1990s, there was a lot of fight over so-called inclusive language.

00:10:34.000 Historically, words like man or mankind in the English language meant both men and women.

00:10:41.000 But in the late 1980s, feminism was all the rage. 1.00

00:10:44.000 So they had so-called inclusive language where they actually took out male pronouns from the NRSV.

00:10:51.000 And it was very controversial at the time.

00:10:54.000 It spilled over into the Catholic Church's fight over the English edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in the early 90s.

00:11:02.000 And as a result, in the English-speaking world, we did not get an English catechism until 94, two years after everyone else got theirs.

00:11:11.000 Because Father Joseph Fessio, the founder of Ignatius Press, who was a student of Cardinal Ratzinger's, who was still a cardinal at the time, worked with him to make sure that the catechism did not follow the NRSV, followed the RSV Catholic Edition.

00:11:26.000 And that that more standard English language, man and mankind, rather than being watered down, was kept in that Bible.

00:11:35.000 Now, what does that have to do with what's happening right now?

00:11:38.000 It's interesting that the mainline Bible translation, the NRSV, it seems to go, Ben, with whatever happens to be the fad at the time.

00:11:48.000 So in the late 1980s, feminism was all the rage. 1.00

00:11:51.000 Taking out the male pronouns to refer to mankind was all the rage.

00:11:55.000 A lot of times it kind of messed up the translation of the NRSV, which is why Ignatius Press brought back the RSV.

00:12:02.000 And then we got a second RSV, which is what you see in the study Bible, because Ignatius was working with the Vatican to get a liturgical edition.

00:12:10.000 That's how we got the RSV, second Catholic edition.

00:12:13.000 But what happens is the mainline Protestants, they update their flagship Bible about every 30 years or so.

00:12:19.000 So then we get the NRSV updated edition with homosexuality taken out in those two verses, now that that's all the rage. 0.88

00:12:28.000 So let me ask you, is this version that's just been authorized by the US Catholic bishops, will that eventually have approval to be used in a liturgical context?

00:12:43.000 Not in the United States.

00:12:46.000 We've got a different story going on in the USA, but it's one that overlaps with this story.

00:12:51.000 So here in the United States for the last 55 years, we have used for the mass, for the mainstream Novus Ordo mass, we have used something called the New American Bible.

00:13:02.000 And it's gone through several revisions.

00:13:04.000 It goes back about 55 years to 1970.

00:13:07.000 It's been revised several times.

00:13:09.000 And the bishops require that that translation and only that translation be used for the mass in the United States.

00:13:18.000 And there are reasons for that.

00:13:19.000 They get copyright revenue out of it and so forth.

00:13:23.000 And they also understandably want everyone to be on the same page reading the same translation at mass.

00:13:30.000 That is now going through a revision that will be, there will be yet another revision of the NAB, the New American Bible, that we'll be reading at mass.

00:13:41.000 And it does raise a question.

00:13:43.000 Like the same people that gave the imprimatur for this NRSV updated edition where they gay-washed those two verses in the New Testament, 0.98

00:13:51.000 presumably are the same people that are going to be signing off on the New American Bible.

00:13:56.000 We know the names of some of those scholars, and they're very solid people.

00:14:00.000 But it does raise a question, like, what can we expect from that edition of the New American Bible that we will be hearing at mass?

00:14:10.000 If they signed off on the NRSV updated edition, and I was hoping they'd require the translators to fix that one word.

00:14:17.000 If they did not require that, what are we going to be getting in the translation at mass in a couple of years?

00:14:22.000 Look, that's a point here that you've been, you've been on this really since 2022, right?

00:14:29.000 This, this, you've been writing about this for the last three years following every single development.

00:14:35.000 This is nothing that's just come out of the blue.

00:14:41.000 The director of the NRSV UE is Catholic.

00:14:48.000 And yet it was the Protestants, Robert Gagnon, as you were saying, who was, who did most of the work on social media, trying to get the, to get the, the authentic, the traditional, at least something pertaining to the traditional sense of the word continued.

00:15:06.000 How, how will this, does this have ecumenical implications, the, the pushing through of this between Catholics and Protestants with regards to scriptural analysis going forward?

00:15:21.000 So I'm, I'm concerned that it does, and it's hard to qualify, to quantify it this early on, but the RSV in the mid 20th century, the NRSV in the late 20th century, and now the NRSV updated edition at the end of the first quarter of the 21st century is the flagship Bible of the academy and of scholarship.

00:15:46.640 It's the Bible that everybody in that world sort of looks to.

00:15:51.140 And actually, I must say, I'd love to see the Catholics in, in our world that are, are famous for enlightening all of us as to the Bible.

00:16:00.740 I'm talking about faithful, good Catholic groups like Ascension Press and, and, you know, the famous Father Mike Schmitz with his Bible in a year and Jeff Cavins and Scott Hahn and St. Paul's Center for Biblical Theology and Augustan Institute.

00:16:14.640 We could go on forever.

00:16:15.440 These are the guys that should really be addressing this.

00:16:18.040 I'm, I'm just an amateur, um, following up on this, but I, I think they need to push the bishops on this.

00:16:25.140 Hold on to this point.

00:16:26.240 I'm going to come back to you now about the actual practical implications in daily life arising out of this translation just in two minutes.

00:16:34.120 Thanks, Peter.

00:16:34.920 Just, just, just stand by.

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00:17:42.480 Okay, so, Peter, my question to you here, listening to this debate, is there are, it's not just dry theoretical stuff, right?

00:17:53.340 Um, the question to ask here is, does the Bible make moral distinctions, therefore, between different types of homosexual relationships?

00:18:06.200 That's really, I think, you'll agree with me here, that's the subtext of how, um, of the importance of changing this arsenokoite, um, correctly.

00:18:23.880 Um, does the Bible make moral distinctions between different types of homosexual relations?

00:18:30.380 Because, taking that word in the wrong way would suggest that it does, right?

00:18:36.460 This has, like, massive implications.

00:18:38.840 Oh, it has tremendous implications, particularly those two verses in 1 Timothy and 1 Corinthians, where it has been changed.

00:18:47.980 And the way you described it, by the way, that is, that comes straight from a Washington Times article in 2022 that covered the whole gay-washing controversy.

00:18:57.160 And both they and the translators of the NRSV updated edition, they frame the issue that way.

00:19:04.620 Does that word, that Greek word, does it, does it condemn all, uh, homosexual relationships or just illicit ones? 0.80

00:19:12.580 Which is to suggest that the Bible makes a moral distinction between different kinds of, uh, same-sex, uh, sexual activity.

00:19:20.360 And it does not.

00:19:21.500 That's an ideological novelty.

00:19:23.360 That's the way they're sneaking this sort of stuff in.

00:19:26.400 And I know the translators have defended themselves and said they're just doing objective scholarship.

00:19:31.520 But I think it's reasonable to wonder if that, if that's really the case.

00:19:35.120 Uh, especially when you consider, and it has huge, it has eternal, um, implications.

00:19:39.940 Because what those two verses are saying, St. Paul is listing, um, a bunch of different categories of, of, uh, people, activities that they're engaged in, that if unrepentant, they will not inherit the kingdom of God.

00:19:53.280 That is what he is saying.

00:19:54.620 So when you change that to suggest that, uh, you know, when St. Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, says, look, unrepentant, uh, homo, people engaged in male homosexuality will not inherit the kingdom of God. 0.99

00:20:10.060 Um, when the NRSV updated edition says something different than St. Paul under the Holy Spirit says that in that two verses, that is not an act of love to our neighbors who may be engaged in that sort of activity.

00:20:23.460 We want them to inherit the kingdom of God, too.

00:20:26.340 And we're not doing them any, uh, favors.

00:20:28.880 We're doing them in eternal disfavor, a disservice, uh, with horrifying consequences to fudge up those two verses, to fuzz them up and make them unclear.

00:20:39.160 They've been clear throughout centuries until this, this edition of the Bible.

00:20:43.260 It's a very serious matter.

00:20:45.740 This is, uh, the importance that you just touched on here of preaching the truth in charity.

00:20:50.500 Both of those two things go together.

00:20:52.820 In fact, preaching the truth, of course, I mean, there are different ways that you can go about it, but preaching the truth is actually a charitable act in and of itself.

00:21:02.140 Um, tell me something here, because this is, on, on this show, on, on the evening show, often, um,

00:21:10.860 Um, on the war room, we touch on issues that are important.

00:21:17.680 Listen, our audience is, our audience is largely evangelical, but we do touch on issues pertaining to traditional Catholicism.

00:21:26.020 Um, and in addition to the debate over how we should live, there's the question, the question here of Episcopal authority, right?

00:21:39.240 Yes.

00:21:41.540 I've always, my understanding is that the, um, that the bishops of the Catholic Church, when they authorize translations, they're doing that in some way under the Holy Spirit.

00:21:54.800 Um, you know, I think, you know, I think, I think the church has said that explicitly with regards to the Vulgate translation, um, into Latin.

00:22:02.360 Um, but this here, seeing as that the, the, the, the United States Catholic bishops have just authorized this, is it legitimate to ask, what is the bishop's authority here, uh, on authorizing translations?

00:22:20.520 Um, and does it throw up questions about, about, um, the authority of bishops in general when it comes to teaching for faith and morals?

00:22:32.360 Well, I, I think it would be good, and this probably won't happen, but I think we ought to ask anyway.

00:22:37.960 I think it would be good if the bishops themselves, uh, here in the United States clarified, uh, this question as it relates to their approval of the NRSV updated edition.

00:22:50.620 The way that the public found out about this was Friendship Press, which is the publishing arm of the National Council of Churches, the Protestant mainline body.

00:22:59.060 They're the ones who put out this information that the USCCB, the US, um, Catholic bishops' conference, had approved of this translation of the Bible, and that approval now does appear on the USCCB's website.

00:23:13.620 But, you know, the USCCB is a bureaucracy, and, you know, it would be worth asking, like, who, who gave that imprimatur?

00:23:22.480 Was it, was it some staff person? Was it some subcommittee? Was it the bishops themselves?

00:23:28.200 The bishops are the successors to the apostles, and they do have legitimate authority, and, I mean, it's worth asking, how, how was it exercised, uh, in this instance?

00:23:39.260 Was it their authority? Was it some subcommittee, and why?

00:23:42.580 And they ought to justify and explain, this is why we didn't want that word changed.

00:23:45.740 This is a tapestry, where, when you start pulling on the threads, it can unravel far more than what you, what, what, what you expected when you set out.

00:23:54.740 I think the Catholic Church here, not, not for the first time, really, since the Second Vatican Council onwards, is, is in very dangerous territory here, when it comes to its own authority.

00:24:05.020 And questions will inevitably be raised.

00:24:07.480 Okay, so that's, that's pretty, um, that's pretty damning, I think.

00:24:15.460 Just tell me one thing, because you've got, like, about a minute and a half left.

00:24:18.940 Tell me one thing here.

00:24:21.040 When we say that the Word of God is divinely inspired and inerrant, we're talking about the original version in Greek, right?

00:24:30.140 Well, the original version, to what, to what, to what, to what extent can we make that assumption when it comes to translations in general?

00:24:41.620 Yeah, so the, the original version of the Bible, the, the Old Testament was in Hebrew, and the New Testament, um, was in Greek.

00:24:49.960 And my understanding is that the Church considers both the, the original versions, uh, inspired, as well as the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew.

00:25:00.380 And your question is, to what extent can we accept, um, English translations as inspired?

00:25:06.640 They're not inspired, uh, certainly, and the, the translators are not inspired in the way that St. Paul and Moses and all the original authors of the Bible were inspired.

00:25:15.960 You need to read it through the, through the Church's tradition, the interpretation, the, again, you, we've referenced the Ignatius Study Bible.

00:25:23.240 It doesn't get any better than that, uh, but it, it's not inspired in the same way that the, the original is, um, it, it really is a work of scholarship.

00:25:31.940 Where the Church's authority comes in is when the Church gives imprimators to these translations.

00:25:36.680 So it's not the same thing as saying it's inspired the way the original is, but that the Church has looked at this and they don't see anything here that contradicts Catholic teaching on faith and morals.

00:25:46.100 And I think the translation of that one word does.

00:25:50.700 Okay, you're going to give me, I have to give me a yes or no on this one.

00:25:53.360 Can we, as faithful believers, have confidence that the translations that we're reading, if they have the imprimators, are accurate and faithful and will not lead us astray?

00:26:09.860 Yes, ultimately.

00:26:12.160 But we gotta, but, but we're part of the process too.

00:26:15.820 We are part of the process too, the laity have a voice too, and when we see something weird, we have to push back.

00:26:21.960 Peter Wolfgang, this has been really fascinating.

00:26:25.580 We're going to have to get you back on to, to explore these themes in more detail.

00:26:29.460 In the meantime, where do people go to keep up with your analysis on social media?

00:26:34.580 So, Family Institute of Connecticut's website is ctfamily.org.

00:26:39.140 You can also find me personally on Facebook at facebook.com slash Peter Wolfgang.

00:26:46.320 Peter, that was very kind of you.

00:26:47.760 Thanks for coming on the show.

00:26:48.980 Look forward to catching up with you again soon.

00:26:50.860 God bless for now.

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00:31:06.160 Well, one of the news stories that's been dominating German conversation over recent weeks is to do with the murder of a young girl, a young 16-year-old Ukrainian refugee in Germany called Liana.

00:31:18.700 And she was pushed on the train tracks by an Iraqi immigrant. 0.64

00:31:26.020 This is similar to the situation that's occupied American attention over recent months as well.

00:31:35.760 So my next guest, Vadim Dirksen, a senior editor at Younger Freiheit News portal that's been right at the center of drawing attention to this.

00:31:45.340 Vadim, welcome on to Steve Bannon's war room.

00:31:47.820 What can you tell us about this case, first of all?

00:31:50.260 What are the facts before we go into how this has captivated German attention?

00:31:57.560 Hi, Ben.

00:31:58.180 Nice to have me on your show.

00:32:00.560 The thing is, Liana was murdered brutally on a daylight standing at the train station and she was pushed on the rails when the freight train rushed in.

00:32:15.680 I mean, I was there at the site, the train come in very fast with 100 kilometers per hour.

00:32:23.280 It's about approximately like 60, 70 miles per hour.

00:32:27.080 So they passed quite fast and she was pushed in front of this train by an Iraqi asylum seeker who was illegal in this country, who needed to be deported. 0.97

00:32:41.700 But he stayed in the country and this young little girl, she never met this guy before.

00:32:50.920 She didn't know him as a, she was not related.

00:32:56.940 She was not close to him.

00:32:58.560 She was just a suspect.

00:33:00.500 She, she, she was, I'm sorry.

00:33:02.240 She was just a victim in this situation because she was there at the time when this guy was there.

00:33:08.460 And this is especially very horrific to see.

00:33:12.360 I met the mother.

00:33:13.840 She was completely crushed.

00:33:18.260 She was done.

00:33:19.820 You could see how big this impact was and still is on the family.

00:33:24.960 That was the only girl they had.

00:33:28.420 She, Liana has also two brothers yet, younger brothers.

00:33:32.740 Only the mother handled to talk to us because she, she sought for justice. 1.00

00:33:41.100 And because in the beginning, the police didn't even know that there was a murder.

00:33:46.960 They thought it was maybe a suicide.

00:33:49.120 Maybe there was just an accident, but she was caught by wind.

00:33:54.480 They told the mother.

00:33:55.560 Um, and there were no cameras.

00:33:58.380 So there, there was nothing what could tell, okay, this girl was pushed there. 0.98

00:34:03.280 There was only one thing, one little hint what brought, um, this all to light.

00:34:10.760 This girl was, was on the phone with her grandfather and he just heard her scream in the last second.

00:34:19.340 And, and he was in, uh, in Ukraine, by the way, he's in Ukraine.

00:34:24.820 Um, yeah, they were WhatsAppping and then, uh, he heard that incident happening.

00:34:29.660 So, so, so if it hadn't been for that fact that she'd been on the phone at the time, this would have just been, uh, entered, a pursuit, sort of consumed into the, into suicide statistics.

00:34:43.160 Vadim, I'd, I'd like to, um, to point this out to our largely American audience here.

00:34:48.680 And these kinds of stories are happening every day.

00:34:52.040 I know this is the one that's really captured German attention right now, but these kinds of stories are happening, a violent crime, especially against young girls, uh, but, but not exclusively girls, um, also against young boys.

00:35:06.080 But these kinds of things are happening every day, not only in Germany, but right across the European continent right now because of the, the third world illegal invasion. 0.97

00:35:15.960 How has the response to this, obviously, because it is a lot in the news, what, what has been the response of the various political parties to this brutal murder?

00:35:26.920 So, so there was a, a different response from different parties.

00:35:31.140 The first thing, what the mother did, she, she wanted to have justice and she wanted to know what happened to her, uh, girl. 0.67

00:35:37.640 So she went to the politicians there.

00:35:39.400 She went to the local, uh, chapter of the CDU, the leading party, uh, of Chancellor Mertz.

00:35:46.120 Um, and she, she, she asked them to help them. 0.92

00:35:50.620 And then they said, well, why are you asking?

00:35:53.100 Let the police do their work.

00:35:55.120 Um, by the way, we, we, we, we are raising money for you and for the funeral.

00:35:59.940 What else do you need?

00:36:01.480 And she was just devastated.

00:36:03.400 She was, she was, uh, she was in shock hearing that.

00:36:06.420 So she went just to the next party, to the position party, which was, the, the office was right next to it and they helped them.

00:36:13.920 They just posted something online.

00:36:16.080 They asked for help for, uh, people who might have seen something.

00:36:20.500 And this, all of the sudden brought some, started to, to, to change, um, and, and bring some public publicity to this, uh, case.

00:36:29.520 But till now, uh, we have, uh, in the local parliament, uh, the, the leftists are ruling there.

00:36:37.160 They don't want to, to have a, uh, even the, the, the, the, let's say the, the, the centrist, uh, right wing, uh, centrist right, like the CDU, uh, they, they wanted to have like kind of, uh, what's called the, um, um, um, I'm sorry, the, the, the, the kind of commission there to, to, to, to, to find out what happened there.

00:36:56.740 And they had to vote, uh, if they want to start this commission and they, uh, they voted all against it, except for the AFD.

00:37:05.780 And the AFD, um, before you tell me, before you tell me about how the AFD are doing right now, because I think they're sort of number one in the polls.

00:37:13.420 What was the, tell me more about the AFD response, the alternative for Deutschland?

00:37:18.980 Yes.

00:37:19.780 The thing is, uh, she went not only to the AFD, but she went to the, the, the, the, the night.

00:37:26.740 And the notch mayor of the leftist, uh, it's, his name is, uh, Bjorn Höcke.

00:37:32.080 And he is painted as a, really the, the, the darkest, the, the, the evils, the, the most evil politicians of the, um, AFD.

00:37:43.520 And his office was right there.

00:37:45.980 And, um, he, the mother went there and she, she doesn't know any of the politics.

00:37:52.380 She doesn't know what's the system in here.

00:37:54.880 She just saw a sign of a political party and she asked for help.

00:38:00.820 And the party helped.

00:38:03.020 And they brought it to light.

00:38:06.740 And only the publicity and the pressure from the media,

00:38:11.140 from the alternative media,

00:38:12.760 helped to discover what actually happened in this case.

00:38:18.560 So the AFD was pushing it and transporting it over social media

00:38:24.820 and thanks to Elon Musk also to the platforms like X

00:38:28.620 to the publicity of the German people.

00:38:35.740 We're actually trying to get Bjorn Hocker on the show.

00:38:39.500 We're liaising with his office.

00:38:41.760 I like the fact that you say that this isn't just any old AFD guy.

00:38:47.200 This is the nightmare as far as the left is concerned for his positions.

00:38:53.360 And he is absolutely excellent.

00:38:56.040 Tell me about how the popular sentiment in Germany

00:39:00.040 is growing against the third world illegal invasion right now.

00:39:05.500 We're seeing pictures from the UK.

00:39:09.180 Tommy Robinson had three million people out in London a couple of weeks ago.

00:39:12.880 And the position is arguably even worse in Germany.

00:39:17.200 Actually, we have an anniversary just a few weeks ago,

00:39:23.020 the 10 years open border politics of Angela Merkel.

00:39:27.380 And we just brought all the numbers together.

00:39:31.940 And I want to just show you some charts of it.

00:39:33.840 I think this is very interesting also for the Americans

00:39:36.440 to see what actually happened in this 10 years after.

00:39:40.280 We see here, for example, you can see this peak here.

00:39:44.760 This is the asylum seekers. 1.00

00:39:46.920 And this is 2015 was the highest peak

00:39:50.600 when the asylum seekers came into Germany.

00:39:53.300 But the number, it came down a little bit after that,

00:39:58.820 but it stayed higher than previously ever.

00:40:01.300 So they're still coming in, and there's another peak.

00:40:04.920 That's when the leftists took over.

00:40:07.460 So they're coming into the country without any control.

00:40:13.860 And this is just the crossing border.

00:40:16.680 So that means all this peak there, they're not going back.

00:40:19.800 They're all staying in Germany. 0.99

00:40:21.000 What made it to the crime scene?

00:40:24.740 We have this number.

00:40:27.300 These numbers are very interesting.

00:40:29.660 This is the sexual assault.

00:40:32.020 I mean, you see the dark blue, 0.99

00:40:36.160 that's the German citizen committing crime, sexual crime. 0.97

00:40:40.360 The red ones are the immigrants living here. 1.00

00:40:44.280 And the yellow ones on top, these are only asylum seekers. 0.99

00:40:47.780 And here you see on 2024, they add up,

00:40:53.520 like they commit the same amount of crime,

00:40:57.120 sexual crime, as the German citizens. 0.94

00:40:59.960 Although they make only, they make from the German society,

00:41:04.980 they probably make 10% or so.

00:41:08.060 So, and in this dark blue German column,

00:41:16.020 they are also immigrants, which became Germans over time.

00:41:20.760 And this is also an interesting chart to see.

00:41:24.460 This is the chart showing all the numbers of asylum seekers becoming German.

00:41:31.440 And this one here, the blue rise here,

00:41:34.980 this is the migration of or becoming Germans of Syrian refugees.

00:41:42.120 So, in the next years, when there's more crime coming in,

00:41:46.600 in the German statistics,

00:41:49.220 you won't see the Syrian asylum seekers anymore 0.56

00:41:52.000 because they have the German passport.

00:41:54.900 And this takes, this has influential on different aspects

00:42:00.080 in all of our society.

00:42:02.800 That could already be, to some extent, a phenomenon right now.

00:42:08.040 Stand by, Vadim.

00:42:08.900 I'm going to ask you something about,

00:42:10.600 I've seen something interesting on the left of the German political spectrum,

00:42:16.180 which is responding to some extent,

00:42:18.420 to the, a small extent, to the, to the invasion.

00:42:23.380 I'll ask you about that in just two minutes, but stand by.

00:42:25.960 I gave the number out earlier on in the first half of the show for Birch Gold.

00:42:31.480 I'm going to give it again.

00:42:33.240 You need to text the word Bannon to 989898.

00:42:42.040 That's Bannon, B-A-N-N-O-N to 989898.

00:42:47.420 And there is something else I want to quickly mention

00:42:51.200 to do with home title lock.

00:42:55.960 I don't know if you guys saw this story

00:42:59.260 that was in the press a couple of days ago

00:43:02.760 to do with Graceland,

00:43:04.620 the historic home of Elvis Presley,

00:43:07.920 that a Missouri woman was sentenced this week

00:43:10.800 to four years in federal prison

00:43:13.440 to scheming to defraud Elvis Presley's family

00:43:17.080 by trying to auction off his Graceland home and property

00:43:22.000 before a judge halted it.

00:43:25.540 So look, that went quite far.

00:43:28.080 And this is obviously to do with exactly

00:43:30.220 what we're talking about all the time on home title lock.

00:43:34.280 And if someone can get so far advanced

00:43:37.000 in flogging off Graceland,

00:43:40.080 then of course the point is they can do this

00:43:42.940 to you or to me.

00:43:45.340 So that's the importance here.

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00:44:09.600 and do ask them about that triple lock protection.

00:44:13.520 So let's carry on now with the show.

00:44:16.540 And Vadim, what I wanted to ask you

00:44:18.680 was about this social democrat politician

00:44:21.200 called the Trump of Duisburg,

00:44:24.740 Soren Link,

00:44:26.380 who defeated the AFD.

00:44:29.220 Now obviously on the war room

00:44:30.440 we're cheerleading for the AFD

00:44:33.380 because we see the alternative for Germany 0.95

00:44:36.300 being the principal party

00:44:37.760 that's going to shake the political class in Germany

00:44:44.640 out of its quagmire.

00:44:45.840 But this is interesting

00:44:47.340 because this guy did beat the AFD

00:44:49.980 and he does appear to have

00:44:51.620 a more hardline position on immigration

00:44:54.320 than the AFD.

00:44:56.040 Tell me about that.

00:44:57.400 Am I right in that?

00:44:58.760 And how unusual is it

00:45:00.560 to have someone in the Socialist Party

00:45:02.260 in Germany

00:45:03.000 pushing an anti-immigration position?

00:45:08.720 The parties,

00:45:10.220 they have it actually very...

00:45:11.760 There's a tough moment for them,

00:45:13.760 for the old parties,

00:45:15.120 even pushing now

00:45:17.180 against illegal immigration.

00:45:20.620 We see, for example,

00:45:22.660 also with the new chancellor,

00:45:25.340 Merz, who said

00:45:26.180 there's going to be a massive change.

00:45:28.020 There is going to be

00:45:28.700 a 100-degree change

00:45:30.120 of migration policy.

00:45:33.380 He distanced himself

00:45:34.880 from Angela Merkel.

00:45:37.040 This all didn't help.

00:45:39.500 The AFD is still on the rise.

00:45:41.960 The AFD, the party,

00:45:43.880 grew 5% more

00:45:46.480 in comparison to the beginning

00:45:48.740 of this year after the elections.

00:45:50.960 Now they are number one.

00:45:53.240 On the ground basis,

00:45:56.020 basis, let's say,

00:45:57.200 in the cities

00:45:58.580 where the mayor is

00:45:59.740 to be elected

00:46:01.200 and so on.

00:46:02.120 In these kind of elections,

00:46:03.580 it's harder for the AFD

00:46:04.700 because they need

00:46:05.760 more than 50%.

00:46:06.960 And it's easier

00:46:08.780 for the older parties

00:46:09.620 to gather

00:46:10.500 all the candidates

00:46:11.480 or the votes

00:46:12.940 of the oppositions

00:46:14.520 against the AFD

00:46:15.740 against the AFD.

00:46:17.600 and this helps them

00:46:18.720 to get their own mayors

00:46:21.600 and so on.

00:46:22.140 So this is the hardest,

00:46:23.740 the toughest ground

00:46:24.700 for the AFD still

00:46:25.940 on the local elections.

00:46:29.520 But, let's say,

00:46:31.540 on the federal elections,

00:46:36.480 which, and some of the,

00:46:38.900 we have like states,

00:46:39.840 16 states,

00:46:41.240 we're going to have

00:46:42.740 five elections next year.

00:46:45.980 Three elections of them

00:46:48.460 are going to be

00:46:49.120 in the eastern part of Germany

00:46:50.700 and the AFD is on top there.

00:46:54.460 where they have now

00:46:56.340 in the polls

00:46:57.140 like 39%, 38%.

00:47:00.060 They're leading

00:47:00.820 like with a big gap

00:47:02.340 to the second party.

00:47:03.760 And this is a major problem

00:47:05.460 for the CDU,

00:47:06.460 for the SPD

00:47:07.160 because they need only

00:47:09.020 like we have a 5% threshold

00:47:13.260 when you come

00:47:14.280 into the parliament.

00:47:15.260 That means you need

00:47:16.160 only 40, 45%

00:47:18.540 to have 50%

00:47:20.580 of the parliament.

00:47:21.780 So the AFD

00:47:22.600 could actually rule

00:47:23.860 completely alone

00:47:24.960 on its own

00:47:25.620 without any coalition

00:47:26.760 maybe next year

00:47:27.700 in some of the states.

00:47:29.760 Look, in the final

00:47:31.200 couple of minutes

00:47:32.060 of the show,

00:47:32.880 just tell me

00:47:33.420 how Chancellor Metz

00:47:35.960 has collapsed

00:47:37.080 so spectacularly quickly

00:47:39.620 having been in office

00:47:40.760 just for a few months now.

00:47:43.420 How has that been perceived

00:47:45.520 in Germany?

00:47:48.180 The biggest value

00:47:49.520 of a politician

00:47:50.300 in politics is trust.

00:47:51.900 and he said

00:47:54.220 there's going to be

00:47:55.040 a massive change

00:47:56.040 and this change

00:47:56.780 he didn't provide it.

00:47:58.460 Actually,

00:47:59.120 he even switched

00:48:00.000 his complete position

00:48:01.760 which he had

00:48:02.780 before the elections.

00:48:04.620 He switched it over

00:48:05.580 and now,

00:48:06.260 like say,

00:48:06.780 with the debts,

00:48:07.800 the government

00:48:08.560 get debts.

00:48:09.480 He said,

00:48:09.960 we're not going to raise

00:48:12.020 more debts

00:48:12.680 but he took

00:48:14.700 the biggest debt

00:48:15.740 in history

00:48:16.500 of a chancellor.

00:48:18.500 So this raised

00:48:20.580 also big critiques

00:48:21.820 inside of the CDU.

00:48:23.640 The conservative

00:48:24.580 parts of the CDU

00:48:26.140 are now upset

00:48:27.200 with him.

00:48:27.560 and so the trust

00:48:30.340 is gone.

00:48:31.380 Nobody really believes

00:48:32.780 that he can actually

00:48:34.180 bring the change

00:48:35.080 he promised.

00:48:36.980 And this is

00:48:38.000 the major problem.

00:48:40.060 The old parties

00:48:41.320 are on the fall.

00:48:42.600 They go down.

00:48:43.840 The AFD

00:48:44.420 is on the rise

00:48:45.360 and it's a new hope

00:48:47.160 and we see it here also.

00:48:48.300 We have a chart

00:48:48.960 by the way

00:48:50.200 also for this one.

00:48:52.120 You see how

00:48:53.040 the mood

00:48:55.620 against migration

00:48:58.960 changed

00:48:59.800 over the last

00:49:00.800 10 years.

00:49:01.820 So here,

00:49:03.300 the green one,

00:49:04.180 you see,

00:49:04.840 they agreed

00:49:05.380 like 45%

00:49:07.780 said it is good

00:49:09.560 to have migration

00:49:10.620 in Germany.

00:49:11.560 That was 2015.

00:49:13.040 It was still

00:49:13.640 a minority.

00:49:15.000 The majority 0.87

00:49:15.560 said it's wrong

00:49:16.560 but Angela Merkel

00:49:18.080 and so on,

00:49:18.820 they did it

00:49:19.300 what they did.

00:49:19.980 Now,

00:49:20.840 10 years later,

00:49:21.900 we have it

00:49:22.420 in the polls

00:49:23.180 only 27,

00:49:24.420 28% say

00:49:25.640 migration

00:49:26.960 is okay.

00:49:28.800 Open the borders 0.96

00:49:29.860 is okay.

00:49:31.180 So the big,

00:49:32.140 vast majority

00:49:33.120 of almost

00:49:34.140 73%

00:49:36.020 say no,

00:49:37.180 close the borders

00:49:37.980 and they don't.

00:49:39.700 And this is

00:49:40.380 a big issue

00:49:41.120 and what happens

00:49:42.360 is this.

00:49:45.100 You see the AFD

00:49:46.100 on the rise.

00:49:47.460 Yeah.

00:49:48.040 This is

00:49:48.720 a point

00:49:49.500 that we make

00:49:49.960 time and time

00:49:50.640 and time

00:49:51.200 again on the war room.

00:49:52.660 It doesn't matter

00:49:52.980 whether you're

00:49:53.320 talking about

00:49:53.780 Germany,

00:49:54.400 the UK

00:49:54.820 or America.

00:49:56.160 It's this

00:49:56.680 third world

00:49:57.480 illegal invasion

00:49:58.600 that is really

00:49:59.460 the motor

00:50:00.160 that is driving

00:50:01.000 people towards

00:50:02.240 the various

00:50:03.320 populist,

00:50:04.480 nationalist,

00:50:05.520 political iterations

00:50:06.560 right across

00:50:07.580 the West.

00:50:08.400 And that's going

00:50:08.720 to continue

00:50:09.100 being the case

00:50:09.880 in Germany.

00:50:10.440 That's why

00:50:10.820 the future

00:50:11.520 for the AFD,

00:50:12.720 the alternative

00:50:13.140 for Germany,

00:50:15.200 the alternative

00:50:16.040 for Deutschland

00:50:17.960 has such a rosy

00:50:19.180 future ahead of it.

00:50:20.660 Vadim,

00:50:21.100 thanks for coming

00:50:21.700 on the show.

00:50:22.100 I know from

00:50:22.480 personal experience

00:50:23.360 going on to

00:50:24.360 media and

00:50:25.280 talking in a

00:50:26.200 second language

00:50:27.180 is always

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00:50:32.380 You've done

00:50:32.620 absolutely

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00:50:34.340 Thanks for

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00:51:04.380 Vadim Dirksen,

00:51:05.360 thanks very much

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