Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 865： October 7th Two Years Remembered; Chaos In France

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:17.240 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:22.560 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:26.820 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:28.320 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:30.240 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:32.860 It's going to happen.

00:00:34.140 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:37.520 MAGA Media.

00:00:38.880 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:44.300 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:48.080 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:54.280 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:58.320 It is Tuesday, 7 October, year of war, 2025. 0.84

00:01:07.400 We're going to go now.

00:01:08.920 We put together a compilation of clips of the two hours.

00:01:11.460 We were live that Saturday morning.

00:01:13.320 I actually tracked down Poso, and he joined us being a naval intelligence officer, to do the coverage live.

00:01:19.900 So we're going to go back.

00:01:21.680 We put together, I don't know, 10 minutes or so.

00:01:24.220 As you can see it, as we put it together, and I will have some observations and commentary on the other side.

00:01:31.660 As a team under the direction of President Trump, led by Steve Wyckoff, his special envoy, and Jared Kushner.

00:01:39.360 Jared, the architect of the Abraham Accords, are in Egypt right now trying to negotiate an end to this madness. 0.57

00:01:45.900 Let's go to see it live as it happened on the War Room on 7 October of 2023.

00:01:51.020 I will return here in a moment.

00:01:53.160 I will return here in a moment.

00:02:21.020 Thank you.

00:02:51.020 I will return here in a moment.

00:03:21.020 I will return here in a moment.

00:03:51.020 I will return here in a moment.

00:04:21.020 I will return here in a moment.

00:04:51.020 It's going to turn here in a moment.

00:04:51.600 It's going to be a nightclub.

00:04:53.400 It's going to turn here in a moment.

00:04:55.480 Also, the英�

00:05:15.900 I guess terrorists attacked armed conflict started overnight in Israel over Gaza.

00:05:26.060 Jack Baselbeck, let me bring you in.

00:05:28.780 You know, Jack, when the 50th anniversary, just past the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War,

00:05:36.400 where they were caught by surprise.

00:05:37.520 In 67, they weren't.

00:05:40.640 In 73, they were caught totally by surprise.

00:05:44.160 Did the IDF get caught by surprise here?

00:05:46.980 I mean, what's going on?

00:05:48.240 We send Israel billions of dollars for their defense.

00:05:53.160 Why were people not on watch here?

00:05:56.400 Steve, you have always said that there are decades where nothing happens,

00:06:02.140 and there are weeks where decades happen.

00:06:04.520 We are in one of those weeks.

00:06:06.680 Welcome to the fourth turning.

00:06:09.520 The multipolar world is here.

00:06:12.300 This question is on the lips of a lot of people about the IDF

00:06:18.240 and what's perceived to be a complete taken by surprise by this just massive terrorist strike,

00:06:31.320 invasion, multi-pronged, multi-faceted invasion that we're seeing from Gaza into southern Israel.

00:06:38.440 We're talking, they've got Humvees, they've got motorcycles, they've got paragliders,

00:06:45.200 they've got drones, speedboats, massive coordinated, easily used with external forces.

00:06:51.260 Jack, Jack, Jack, this is not a terrorist attack.

00:06:54.580 This is a paramilitary or a military.

00:06:57.180 Hamas and Hezbollah are, you know, two sides of the same coin, I think. 0.89

00:07:00.520 It has everything to do with the $6 billion Biden just gave on.

00:07:04.780 An update on that, we're actually getting, we're actually just in the last couple of minutes before the,

00:07:11.380 and you showed the horrific videos, not even the most graphic videos that we can't even show here,

00:07:16.500 of the hostage taking, the killing of civilians, the slaughter of families in their own homes in southern Israel running in.

00:07:23.060 But we're also getting indications that Hezbollah is now testing the borders of Lebanon and Israel.

00:07:29.460 So Hezbollah is marching up to those borders.

00:07:32.600 They've got forces that are prepared to potentially cross those borders into Israel.

00:07:37.000 America stands with Israel, but there have been some tough situations over the last couple of years in the Middle East

00:07:42.760 that Israel, very specifically under Netanyahu or others, waved off, you know,

00:07:48.080 other leadership waved off from supporting the United States.

00:07:51.100 Is that not correct, sir?

00:07:53.060 Well, Steve, there was a report that I got from the top level of the White House during the,

00:07:59.540 you remember the al-Baghdadi raid of the leader of ISIS.

00:08:03.260 And we all remember the story.

00:08:04.880 He was down in the cave.

00:08:06.060 They sent the dog, et cetera.

00:08:08.860 There was actually a report that came out from the highest level of the White House

00:08:13.560 that that was originally intended to be a joint strike on ISIS between the United States as well as Israeli assets.

00:08:23.460 However, at the last minute, Israel pulled out of that attack.

00:08:27.160 Then President Trump was advised to drop the attack completely as well.

00:08:33.520 President Trump said, no, we're going to continue.

00:08:36.220 We know where Baghdadi is. 0.92

00:08:37.440 I want to strike him now so we can't give him another chance to escape. 0.94

00:08:40.900 That's exactly what he did. 0.90

00:08:41.920 It was a successful strike that took out Baghdadi.

00:08:45.620 Israel was originally supposed to be part of that.

00:08:48.360 Netanyahu pulled out.

00:08:49.340 And then we also saw that Netanyahu, of course, as many people will famously remember,

00:08:54.280 was the first world leader to congratulate Biden after the 2020 election.

00:08:58.520 No, it's outrageous, outrageous.

00:09:01.460 The stolen 2020 election, the stolen 2020 election, and this is the first couple of days.

00:09:06.640 He couldn't wait to get to the frickin' microphone to throw Trump over the side.

00:09:10.180 Everything that Trump had done for Israel and MAGA has supported for Israel.

00:09:14.320 Moving the embassy to Jerusalem was not a small thing.

00:09:17.880 We were told constantly, constantly, constantly by state and these others,

00:09:21.460 because I was kind of one of the guys in charge of this.

00:09:24.480 Oh, no, you're going to have terrorism all over the place, 5,000 American hostages.

00:09:27.320 That was heroic of President Trump.

00:09:29.960 The 2020 election, stolen, and Netanyahu could not wait to get to the microphone

00:09:34.240 to be rubbing up on Biden and the Democrats.

00:09:36.380 The first thing that happened this morning was Qatar and Saudi Arabia came out

00:09:40.800 and said they fully supported it.

00:09:42.380 We're paying for Saudi Arabia's defense.

00:09:45.280 This is the problem.

00:09:46.480 We're paying guys over there.

00:09:47.560 They're going to fight.

00:09:48.260 We're going to get dragged into it.

00:09:49.220 We can't get dragged into this.

00:09:50.620 We just can't.

00:09:51.540 Sorry.

00:09:52.600 We got 33 baited debt.

00:09:54.500 We got an existential crisis of a global margin call.

00:09:57.320 We have hundreds of combat divisions in our country of illegal aliens. 1.00

00:10:02.560 We don't know where they are.

00:10:04.160 Okay?

00:10:04.540 And we got a situation that's festering in the South China Sea and Taiwan,

00:10:08.820 which is existential to the American economy.

00:10:11.080 Those are the priorities of the United States of America.

00:10:13.380 And I think the first question has got to be, before McHenry and all these neocons start jumping in,

00:10:18.300 is we give, Jack, we shovel billions, tens and tens of billions of dollars over to Israel to defend ourselves.

00:10:25.880 Where is the IDF?

00:10:27.080 I don't want to be too hard on Israel here. 0.63

00:10:28.840 I don't.

00:10:29.680 And I realize you're in the middle of a thing.

00:10:30.820 But you see, these things are taken hostages.

00:10:33.260 This is not a terrorist situation, Jack.

00:10:35.520 This is a paramilitary to military operation.

00:10:38.600 Well-planned, well-coordinated, well-funded, well-thought-through.

00:10:43.860 And, hey, Netanyahu, where is he?

00:10:46.340 You threw Trump over the side pretty quickly.

00:10:48.240 Where's the IDF?

00:10:49.400 Where's the tens of billions of dollars we send there?

00:10:51.920 And Stavridis, their intelligence in the area is better than ours.

00:10:55.220 Hence, Jack's story earlier about Syria.

00:10:58.260 When we needed them, when we needed them, they backed out.

00:11:03.020 And only Trump's courage, you know, Trump, Mr. Chaos, right?

00:11:08.280 Mr. Chaos, the only person in living memory to provide stability in that region, no shots fired, nothing.

00:11:18.980 Think about it.

00:11:20.100 And you're about to see this is the other phase of the Third World War.

00:11:22.800 This thing could turn into a cockpit right now.

00:11:26.100 Jack Posobiec.

00:11:28.700 Steve, we had four years of peace.

00:11:31.260 We had four years of prosperity.

00:11:34.000 The people were too upset about mean tweets that they had to go and get rid of the one president that gave us no new wars in living memory.

00:11:46.420 I could go for some mean tweets right now.

00:11:48.740 The world could go for some mean tweets right now.

00:11:51.120 President Trump has released a statement.

00:11:53.060 But these Hamas attacks were a disgrace.

00:11:57.640 Israel has every right to defend itself.

00:12:00.080 Sadly, American taxpayer dollars helped fund these attacks.

00:12:03.600 Kaboom.

00:12:08.180 Thank you very much.

00:12:09.640 Thank you very much.

00:12:10.520 That's that's the question we got here.

00:12:12.680 Of course, they've got to defend themselves.

00:12:14.640 This is this is not a terrorist attack.

00:12:16.220 This is a military attack.

00:12:17.460 This is well thought through.

00:12:18.320 And Jack Posobiec nailed it.

00:12:19.760 Watch the northern border.

00:12:20.860 Watch Hezbollah. 0.99

00:12:23.240 They're two armies.

00:12:24.160 They're two basically Persian backed armies.

00:12:27.080 In fact, Hezbollah is essentially Persians.

00:12:29.500 Right.

00:12:29.820 These are Persian backed armies.

00:12:31.960 That are coming in on a pincer move.

00:12:33.640 And this is where Jack Posobiec is right.

00:12:36.620 Jack, why do you say this is the fourth turning?

00:12:40.000 Steve, because in the fourth turning, we the third turning is the unraveling, the unraveling

00:12:46.180 of systems, the collapse of institutions.

00:12:48.560 And then the fourth turning is the conflict.

00:12:51.380 The fourth turning is the conflict that challenges the old status quo and creates the new status

00:12:58.300 quo.

00:12:58.600 So the first turning, which comes out of the fourth turning, is born and and grown out

00:13:04.680 of the fourth turning.

00:13:06.400 That is what we are in.

00:13:07.900 And you'll how when he put his book out earlier this year, his update, he said, we've not yet

00:13:13.000 entered the conflict phase.

00:13:15.360 He said, we are not even going to be done the fourth turning until the 2030s.

00:13:19.680 OK, people need to understand that, that we are in a conflict phase right now.

00:13:23.980 We've got a president up there who has no idea what he's doing. 1.00

00:13:27.500 We've got feckless idiots that are running our entire administration. 1.00

00:13:31.260 They bogged us down in a land war in Asia that we have no chance of winning. 1.00

00:13:35.560 We have no chance of winning in Ukraine, period.

00:13:38.200 End of story.

00:13:39.240 And now, while we're bogged down there, the rest of the world is going around settling

00:13:45.040 scores.

00:13:45.980 Wow.

00:13:51.280 Tell me who does.

00:13:53.040 This is why you watch the show.

00:13:54.540 That was live, real time.

00:13:56.400 Look at that information right there.

00:13:58.740 Real time.

00:14:00.800 While the footage is being put up there.

00:14:02.420 That was a military operation.

00:14:04.700 Air, sea, land over, over 40 miles.

00:14:09.160 Meticulously thought through.

00:14:10.100 They had the floor plans of the kibbutzes. 0.99

00:14:13.220 They know exactly where to go inside the kibbutzes to slaughter people. 1.00

00:14:18.780 They knew exactly what was on the different watchtowers from the IDF.

00:14:23.400 They knew the Burning Man festival there.

00:14:25.740 They knew all about that.

00:14:26.620 That slaughter and then the Gaza operation, as we said at the time, when you go through

00:14:34.680 hell, you have to go through as fast as possible.

00:14:36.560 It was the head of the IDF, not Steve Bannon, the new head of the IDF, that said back in

00:14:42.040 March, until he came on, very little had been done.

00:14:46.020 So now we're in a situation that it looks like they haven't taken out all the combat arms.

00:14:52.380 That's supposed to be held down.

00:14:54.080 But you saw right there in the footage, the savagery of the Muslim Brotherhood. 1.00

00:15:01.620 And to date, to date, to date, you don't have one explanation of how that happened.

00:15:10.080 There's been no formal inquiry.

00:15:12.260 And I realize they're under war.

00:15:14.500 I got that.

00:15:15.120 But when we were under war in World War II, I think in the first two years, I think there

00:15:19.960 was something like three or four inquiries into Pearl Harbor already.

00:15:24.340 Not that any of them got to basically down to the ground truth, but they started the process.

00:15:30.780 It has not been explained why, and people we finance, we help finance the military of

00:15:37.380 Saudi Arabia and UAE, and I realize they put up money in Qatar and we got a base there.

00:15:41.680 But hey, the Saudi intelligence, UAE intelligence, Egyptian intelligence, Qatar intelligence, the

00:15:48.060 Mossad, Shin Bet, MI6, the CIA.

00:15:51.940 Come on, man.

00:15:53.860 Give me a break.

00:15:56.100 You got those organizations alone have half the guys over there on the payroll.

00:15:59.520 Why have we not, why has there been no answer how that happened?

00:16:04.700 And that's needed to be taken care of right away, not an expanded war, not try to go in

00:16:13.880 and take out the Iranians, not go to the West Bank. 0.85

00:16:18.880 You got to take care of that first.

00:16:20.400 And it hasn't been taken care of.

00:16:21.400 And now you're going to have some deal to put together.

00:16:23.820 That was also in 23.

00:16:26.240 President Trump, this is just when DeSantis had announced in May.

00:16:31.480 This is still when, now his numbers were collapsing. 0.96

00:16:33.860 This is still when Fox News is promoting every day DeSantis and Nikki Haley and all that crap. 0.53

00:16:40.920 And President Trump is coming and set things right. 0.76

00:16:44.380 And look at our comments on Ukraine.

00:16:45.660 This is a geopolitical disaster.

00:16:52.560 And we still haven't gotten to the bottom of it.

00:16:55.640 We still haven't had the facts or the truth.

00:16:58.680 We're flying kind of blind.

00:17:01.480 But you've seen a sea change.

00:17:03.260 You've seen a sea change on this in, I think, the last four or five weeks.

00:17:07.960 A sea change.

00:17:09.660 And now President Trump, I think, has really asserted himself.

00:17:13.520 And, hey, we're going to get this thing put together.

00:17:15.040 We're going to get the guns put down.

00:17:17.540 We're going to figure this thing out.

00:17:19.880 And the only person that could do that is President Trump.

00:17:22.520 The only person that could bang heads like that is Donald John Trump.

00:17:26.780 And if on Thursday or Friday, I think when it's awarded,

00:17:32.300 if he doesn't get the Nobel Peace Prize, then the whole thing's a joke.

00:17:36.760 Is he perfect?

00:17:37.740 No, he's far from perfect.

00:17:39.720 But it's in overcoming those imperfections to be the leader that he is,

00:17:43.720 shows his greatness.

00:17:46.040 And look at it right there.

00:17:48.540 He put out a statement right there that kind of summed it all up.

00:17:52.380 And this thing's been horrific.

00:17:54.580 According to the Gaza, you know, the Hamas, you can't believe anything. 0.99

00:17:59.020 They say 67,000 have been killed.

00:18:01.260 But I will tell you, on that day, the people that were the heroes

00:18:05.200 were the older IDF retirees that had fought in 67, had fought in 73.

00:18:10.580 They got in their cars and drove to the sound of the guns.

00:18:14.060 The way this thing was stopped was basically older members of the IDF that had fought in previous wars that drove down there and started pushing back on what was not a terrorist attack.

00:18:30.800 This was not a terrorist attack.

00:18:33.560 You had air, sea, land, paragliders.

00:18:36.260 Come on.

00:18:37.300 Over a 40-mile stretch?

00:18:38.840 It was a highly organized, practiced, financed military assault.

00:18:45.720 And yet we're sitting here today cutting a peace deal.

00:18:48.720 So we have no earthly idea, none, of what the truth is in back of it.

00:18:55.500 And the American people deserve that.

00:18:58.020 The people in Israel deserve it.

00:18:59.380 But hey, you're running your deal.

00:19:01.380 If you haven't demanded and letting Netanyahu kick the ball, you know, kick the can down, fine, that's your deal.

00:19:07.160 But for us, if we're going to be involved and we're getting dragged into this thing, we need to know exactly what happened.

00:19:13.660 And I am shocked there hasn't been more coming out of the government to demand that.

00:19:19.080 We'll have more on this over the next couple of days as President Trump tries to hammer through a peace deal.

00:19:25.320 I want to bring you, Stan Jodokoski has been with us a couple of times.

00:19:29.960 He was here for the Naval Show the other day, very strategic advisor, very much working on submarine programs between private capital and nations on submarines.

00:19:39.560 He joins us.

00:19:41.020 Stan, I want to talk to you about other breaking news that we need to get our arms around.

00:19:44.560 And you have a better perspective of this than anybody.

00:19:46.700 In fact, you wrote a brilliant piece.

00:19:49.260 The Fifth Republic, people don't understand, the Fifth Republic in France is collapsing before our eyes.

00:19:55.180 And the last time they had a new republic was in 1958 with the return of de Gaulle.

00:20:01.260 Tell us exactly what's happening.

00:20:02.920 You've got a great piece that we've got to pay attention to because the Islamization of France is quite far advanced. 1.00

00:20:09.180 Why is the government – this is deeper than just a parliament not being able to put together a government.

00:20:14.660 You're saying basically not just Macron, but the entire project is about to collapse before our eyes, sir.

00:20:20.660 Thank you, Steve, for having me again on the show.

00:20:24.080 Indeed, I think we're living in unprecedented times in France with far-reaching consequences for Europe and, by extension, obviously, the conflict in Ukraine.

00:20:34.000 President Macron has dug himself into a corner, no doubt, with two years remaining in his second term.

00:20:38.780 He's been unable to keep a stable government and maintain a majority in parliament or even pass a budget.

00:20:46.180 He came to power in 2017 by offering an alternative to traditional Republican and Socialist Party, dividing and conquering by promising to govern from the liberal center.

00:20:56.160 Now that he's eviscerated the left and right, middle-of-the-road parties, the national far-right and far-left parties have become the main forces battling it out to block Macron's policies time and again.

00:21:13.420 And he's incapable of building a strong enough majority in parliament.

00:21:17.600 Now, a little bit about the Fifth Republic, which came about in 1958, as you mentioned, when General de Gaulle was asked to come back and find a new path forward for France after the failure of the Fourth Republic.

00:21:33.180 The Fourth Republic came in 1946 on the heels of the end of the Second World War.

00:21:38.100 It was a parliamentary regime comprised of a number of political parties and a weak president.

00:21:43.140 And it had a few gains, notably immediately after the war, France's efforts to rebuild the country following the war and the massive destruction across the country.

00:21:58.000 It was also at the birth of Social Security and the social gains that France has been so proud of for the last 70 years.

00:22:06.700 And it also contributed to the beginning of the contours of the European political project.

00:22:14.900 But eventually, as a war raged in 1954 in the former colony of Algeria, still a colony back then, and political parties were fighting it out for and blocking each other's governments, the country came to a standstill.

00:22:32.700 The war exacerbated the tensions at home, and the losses on the battlefield called for General de Gaulle to be called back to the forefront of French politics.

00:22:45.920 He was elected in 1958 and immediately proceeded with writing a new constitution, what we have come to know today as the Fifth Republic.

00:22:55.520 That constitution wanted to do away with this tyranny of the political parties, give France back a strong presidential mandate, one where the president would act as an arbiter between the people and the state,

00:23:11.480 and one which would give universal suffrage to French people for them to decide the fate of their country.

00:23:19.740 Now, Macron, who claims to be the political heir of de Gaulle, has completely betrayed the essence of the Fifth Republic, and rather than to be an arbiter between the state and his people, he's become kind of a prosecutor.

00:23:36.600 And he's governed for the last several years now, either during COVID times with a very limited council of defense, stripping parliament of its responsibilities, or whenever he couldn't get a majority in parliament, which has been now the norm for the last two years since he came back to power, two and a half years now.

00:23:57.340 He's been governing through his prime minister in government with presidential decree after presidential decree, what we call the 49-3, which basically bypasses government and the legislative body on any decision, whether it be to form a government or to reform the pension and entitlement.

00:24:22.040 And so the trust has been broken. The trust has been broken between the president and the political parties, first that he alienated to achieve his political victory, but also the extreme parties, if you can call them extreme at this point, because when you look at the National Front, Marine Le Pen's party, she lost with 35 percent in 2017, and now she lost with 46 percent in 2022.

00:24:50.600 And so it is widely believed that should he once again dissolve the National Assembly tomorrow, as he seems incapable of forming a new government tomorrow, he will try and name a new prime minister and form a new cabinet.

00:25:07.380 It would be the sixth one in two years. Sixth prime minister in two years sounds more like a banana republic than an advanced Western democracy.

00:25:18.300 If you remember, he started this. He he started this whole thing a couple of weeks ago about the Palestinian state.

00:25:27.940 He made all these commitments to the president about troops and money for Ukraine. It's all it's all phony.

00:25:33.100 He's an instigator. And the fifth republic is going to collapse. I think I think you may see the collapse starting tomorrow.

00:25:40.020 This has a massive geopolitical implications for the United States. Stan, we got to bounce. I'm going to have you back up.

00:25:46.340 But you've written this amazing article. I know it's in French. When are we going to get the English version of it?

00:25:51.220 Well, let me see if I can get it out in U.S. media. But certainly I'm happy to share the English version with you.

00:25:59.020 And I'm happy to update you tomorrow as as as France, you know, teeters on on the bricks of the end of the Fifth Republic.

00:26:06.680 Folks, this is a fourth turning. Two years after Jack Posobiec talked about it on that horrific day when more dead Israelis and Jews since the Holocaust.

00:26:26.000 Think about that for a second. Look at that footage. By the way, we had to cut out some of the most horrific footage that we showed that day in real time.

00:26:32.880 Stan, thank you. We'll have you back on tomorrow. France is on the verge of collapsing.

00:26:41.220 Think about that for a second. As President Trump tries to hammer out a peace deal and reorganize the Middle East.

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00:32:31.840 I've got Kimberly Fletcher in the Moms for America that had a press conference today. 1.00

00:32:36.120 I'm going to play a little bit of that and then bring her in. 1.00

00:32:39.060 We are shaping the destiny of nations through the mothers who are rising up and standing

00:32:43.560 for those things that matter most.

00:32:46.020 That is what momsforfreedom.world is about. 1.00

00:32:48.660 And we hope that all the moms out there will realize that you are not alone and you have

00:32:53.180 a place that you can come.

00:32:54.600 And today you're going to hear from the moms from seven of the 17 countries that we have

00:32:59.520 a part of in this network now.

00:33:01.180 Six of those countries are represented here today and you'll be hearing about them and

00:33:05.000 what they're doing in their countries and the same issues that they're facing.

00:33:08.700 We are raising the next generation of each nation's leaders.

00:33:14.300 Mothers don't just shape individual lives. 1.00

00:33:17.540 We shape the very future of society.

00:33:21.100 As the old saying goes, the hand that rocks the cradle really does rule the world.

00:33:27.380 The strength of any nation is only as strong as its families.

00:33:32.120 And mothers determine the heart and emotional temperature of any nation.

00:33:38.920 That's why mothers play a profoundly strategic role. 1.00

00:33:42.840 It is our duty to recognize that our rights come to us by God and not by government.

00:33:52.620 Let me be very clear.

00:33:55.440 Our children do not belong to the government.

00:34:00.900 Psalm 127, the word of God, says that children are a blessing from the Lord.

00:34:06.660 The Bible, God was talking to families and to parents.

00:34:10.820 He was not talking to government.

00:34:14.040 And I just want to encourage you.

00:34:16.160 Help is coming because there's strength and unity.

00:34:19.540 Just like moms in Texas have united.

00:34:22.400 Just like moms across America have united and come together to protect our families and

00:34:28.220 to protect our children.

00:34:30.060 Moms across the world are now coming together in unity.

00:34:34.180 And we are standing strong and we will protect our families and we will protect our children.

00:34:42.000 Jesus said it best.

00:34:44.080 Whoever would harm one of these little ones, it would be better for him to have a millstone 0.85

00:34:48.900 hung around his neck and be thrown into the bottom of the sea.

00:34:53.620 To that end, Mothers for Freedom Global will be working to secure parental rights and establish

00:34:59.560 once again purity, the beauty, and the innocence of children.

00:35:06.660 Okay.

00:35:07.120 The hand that rocks the cradle.

00:35:08.680 Kimberly Fletcher joins us now.

00:35:10.100 So I get Moms for America. 0.93

00:35:11.980 You guys have been at the tip of the spear of the parental rights movement, all that.

00:35:15.460 Explain what was announced today.

00:35:17.200 What's the concept and what are you guys trying to accomplish?

00:35:19.680 Quite powerful press conference.

00:35:22.100 But what are you guys trying to accomplish?

00:35:23.360 Well, I first want to say where it started, because what we want to accomplish is based

00:35:28.980 on what we have realized that moms are dealing with around the world.

00:35:34.880 Two years ago, I started to have heads of state, leaders of organizations, moms from various

00:35:40.600 different countries, ask if we could bring Moms for America to their country. 1.00

00:35:44.120 Well, Moms for America is founded on the Constitution. 0.99

00:35:46.140 It's about America.

00:35:46.880 So that would not work.

00:35:47.880 However, I've realized that there are universal truths and intrinsic values that resonate at

00:35:53.540 all countries.

00:35:55.620 All moms care about the same three things. 0.64

00:35:57.900 And those three things are now being taken from us.

00:36:00.300 First and foremost, we want our children to be safe and protected.

00:36:03.600 Second, we want them to get a good education.

00:36:05.860 And third, opportunities to succeed.

00:36:08.040 Those things have been taken away from us.

00:36:09.640 We are very blessed here in the United States because President Trump is now at the helm.

00:36:13.560 And instead of having an adversary in the White House calling us domestic terrorists,

00:36:17.020 we have an advocate.

00:36:18.700 Unfortunately, in several countries, specifically in the Western countries, that is not the case.

00:36:25.000 Everything that these Eastern Bloc countries have fought against, trying to rise up from 0.99

00:36:30.020 the communist rule that they've been under for so many years and gravitating to those democracies,

00:36:37.520 they're going against those things.

00:36:40.480 We and the Western world are now bracing them.

00:36:43.360 And what we want to do is go out there as moms, unite together in all of our countries,

00:36:48.880 and lift the, elevate the status of our countries and help mothers to be able to thrive,

00:36:56.360 to have freedom to be able to raise their children, have freedom to be able to speak,

00:37:00.260 freedom to be able to be prosperous.

00:37:02.040 That is what we as mothers want.

00:37:04.680 And that is what we're uniting together around the world to be able to stand for.

00:37:08.640 Do you not think that you can accomplish your goals and mission here in the United States

00:37:14.920 unless you do this?

00:37:16.240 Is this spreading now as kind of a global plague?

00:37:19.620 And that's one of the reasons you're doing it, because you don't think you can fully accomplish

00:37:23.660 your work here as this now comes in kind of a second tidal wave into our own country?

00:37:30.420 Yeah, you know, so I want to go back.

00:37:34.800 We held this at the Phyllis Schlafly Center, which was kind of profound.

00:37:39.640 Phyllis Schlafly fought very hard, almost single-handedly stopped ERA. 0.84

00:37:43.740 And for those who don't know what the Equal Rights Amendment was, she warned what was going

00:37:47.040 to happen, that women would be erased, that this gender ideology would be thrust on us. 1.00

00:37:51.180 All of these things that we're seeing, she warned against.

00:37:54.260 But what we have going for us now is she stopped ERA.

00:37:59.040 So it's not in the Constitution.

00:38:00.980 It is not law.

00:38:02.140 All of these things are happening.

00:38:03.440 The law is on our side.

00:38:05.380 But when she won that battle here in the United States, what happened is that the devil never

00:38:10.920 sleeps, evil never goes away.

00:38:12.780 So they regrouped, and they went to the United Nations.

00:38:17.000 And this council on the status of women that they hold every year for two weeks at the United

00:38:21.420 Nations, they started pushing all of these nefarious ideas, getting rid of the word mother,

00:38:26.120 getting rid of family, going after men, destroying the idea of fatherhood.

00:38:30.820 They've been very successful at doing that.

00:38:32.500 And then they bring that back to our countries. 0.56

00:38:34.840 And people are like, oh, well, it came from the UN.

00:38:37.320 It's the Council on the Status of Women.

00:38:38.920 It must be what women want. 1.00

00:38:40.220 It is not what we want.

00:38:41.480 So what I see is an obligation for the United States to go and help all of these countries,

00:38:46.360 because a lot of these things from Kinsey, it began there, but then it went out to all

00:38:52.300 of these other countries, and they're all suffering from the same things.

00:38:56.040 So what happened was there were women who came to me, moms who came to me and said,

00:39:02.860 Kimberly, now that President Trump is the head of the free world, we see him going in

00:39:07.880 a direction that other countries are now following.

00:39:10.080 Common sense is now being brought back into policy.

00:39:12.360 But we lack that cultural alignment.

00:39:17.340 And she said that these moms were saying, what you've done in the United States, being

00:39:21.920 able to move the culture, that's what we need in our countries.

00:39:25.080 Help us know how to do that so that while the president is leading the free world, we can

00:39:30.600 be moving the culture in our countries and be working together to be able to elevate the

00:39:35.400 status of living in our countries.

00:39:39.000 Kimberly, you're standing on the shoulders of a giant.

00:39:41.040 Phyllis Schlafly, I had the opportunity to meet her and make a film with her in it called 0.94

00:39:45.920 Fire from the Heartland about the Tea Party movement and the populist revolt that was leading.

00:39:50.320 She was a giant.

00:39:51.240 And then President Trump made the decision to take time off from that brutal campaign to

00:39:55.460 go to her funeral in St. Louis.

00:39:57.780 Just magnificent.

00:39:58.600 She is a true giant.

00:39:59.660 You're 100% correct.

00:40:01.100 Kimberly, where do people go to get the information about this?

00:40:04.060 If they want to assist you, if they want to help, if they want to sign up, Moms for America

00:40:07.960 has been at the tip of the spear of this fight.

00:40:09.520 Where do they go for your new initiative, ma'am? 0.97

00:40:13.020 Yeah, absolutely.

00:40:14.140 So if you come to momsforamerica.us, we will connect you.

00:40:17.880 For the worldwide movement, it's momsforfreedom.world.

00:40:22.860 And we welcome you. 0.90

00:40:24.300 If you feel alone, if you feel like you're the only one out there and you're the crazy 0.83

00:40:28.120 one, you're not.

00:40:29.540 There is a safe place to land and we're in.

00:40:31.380 Moms for America, Kimberly Fletcher, now going global.

00:40:37.360 I've got to tell you, they need it.

00:40:39.520 Kimberly, thank you so much.

00:40:40.740 Great presentation today.

00:40:41.860 Look forward to assisting you guys in your growth.

00:40:45.620 Thank you.

00:40:46.300 Well, the hand that rocks the cradle.

00:40:50.500 Pretty profound.

00:40:52.680 I want to bring in now, Mark Mitchell joins me.

00:40:56.020 I've got to get this in today because, and Mark, you're more than a pollster.

00:40:59.880 People know you're the Rasmussen guy.

00:41:01.340 You come on.

00:41:01.820 And because of the work you're doing and the way that you do it, you're better than just

00:41:06.500 the best tracking poll and the best pollster for the Trump movement and for President Trump.

00:41:11.940 You've had a ringside seat and you've rolled your sleeves up and dug down on this.

00:41:16.540 And you've got some very profound observations.

00:41:21.060 And you and I keep talking.

00:41:22.960 You say, hey, Steve, this is more than just regular politics.

00:41:25.920 We're in a war now, a battle for the soul of this country.

00:41:30.280 Walk me through that.

00:41:31.060 Your research, why do you come to this and talk about really what's the heart of a fourth turning, sir?

00:41:39.300 I mean, it's all coming to a head right now.

00:41:41.860 We're at the end of it.

00:41:42.820 And I think things are going to move really fast now.

00:41:45.620 The window in which Trump can fix things, bring accountability to the government, set us on the right path, is rapidly shrinking.

00:41:52.680 And we're already looking at political realities that it's like, okay, 13, 14 months from now, the Republicans might be lame duck.

00:41:59.800 And already you're starting to see, like I saw your segment today on Ted Cruz, you're starting to see the usual suspects rear their head, trying to basically shove MAGA back to the back of the bus.

00:42:10.640 And it's so transparent.

00:42:12.400 The forces of the establishment want this grift to continue.

00:42:16.540 They don't want to fix, even though we're rushing to a cliff.

00:42:19.640 And I'm here to say that America is rushing to a cliff.

00:42:22.300 And I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but it's like you usually don't have me on when there's happy talk.

00:42:27.660 And I hear a lot of happy talk.

00:42:29.780 And I hear things like, wow, there's a revival in America, or Gen Z is the most conservative generation in decades, or, oh, wow, the Republican Party's got a plan, or all these things.

00:42:42.940 Conservatism is suffering or having a resurgence.

00:42:45.920 It's not happening.

00:42:47.140 Right now there's an existential battle of two different worldviews.

00:42:51.620 And it's like, you can find, you can frame it as a fight between Republicans and Democrats, but I don't think that really catches everything.

00:42:56.960 Because Donald Trump didn't win because of just Republicans.

00:43:01.020 Okay?

00:43:01.400 So it's like, well, what happens when MAGA goes away, when it loses its political capital?

00:43:05.620 What replaces it?

00:43:07.000 If it's basically Mitt Romney's Republican Party, then they will suffer a massive defeat.

00:43:13.200 Well, is it liberalism versus conservatism?

00:43:15.440 I don't think that's correct either.

00:43:17.100 Because what even is conservatism?

00:43:19.180 What have they conserved?

00:43:20.680 Who's the conservative leader?

00:43:22.720 And I'll tell you what, the Gen Zs, they don't want to hear about conservatism. 1.00

00:43:26.720 They think ideas like free market capitalism have failed them.

00:43:30.560 And so is it a religious battle?

00:43:32.360 Well, I don't know.

00:43:33.340 I look at the religious polling, and I can tell you that in many ways it appears to me like the church has just sort of abdicated this fight.

00:43:40.640 Like it doesn't really find that its message is relevant for people who go to church to talk about values, to talk about the things that Americans need to stand for.

00:43:50.760 However, how's this?

00:43:52.520 Christians in America are only plus two pro-life, only plus two. 0.86

00:43:56.800 Now, the general population is plus 16 pro-choice, so I guess the impact of Christianity is 18 points. 0.53

00:44:04.560 And obviously that's just a litmus test.

00:44:06.480 But I see it over and over again.

00:44:08.460 And when you look at the polling by the religion, the people who are most certain about their worldview are atheists.

00:44:15.460 Atheists are overwhelmingly the most certain about their worldview, followed by evangelical Christians.

00:44:19.600 But Protestants, when you ask them questions about, well, who do you support on this values-based issue, Protestants are completely split, just like the rest of America.

00:44:28.980 It's like you might as well not even find answers at church.

00:44:31.860 These people – and obviously we know the mainline denominations are failing.

00:44:36.240 And so what is the struggle?

00:44:38.220 And I think it's two different worldviews, and we talked about the Zoomer polling.

00:44:41.440 But when you really dig deep and understand this cohort of individuals, they're hopeless.

00:44:45.600 They don't think they're going to be able to afford houses.

00:44:47.720 Their unemployment rate is super high. 1.00

00:44:49.600 They have a ridiculous level of mental health. 0.99

00:44:52.400 35% of them say they've been diagnosed with a mental health condition. 0.98

00:44:55.860 Almost 30% of them are taking drugs for mental health conditions or seeing therapists.

00:45:01.160 Half of 18 to 29-year-olds, almost half, are single.

00:45:06.400 And a good chunk of them aren't even trying to find somebody to marry.

00:45:10.840 They're not even dating.

00:45:12.520 17% of all Gen Zs are single and not even dating.

00:45:16.380 And then when you look at what they want out of relationships, NBC did this polling.

00:45:20.940 If you compare Gen Z young men that voted for Trump, what do they define success as?

00:45:27.280 In this poll, they define success as, yes, a career.

00:45:31.100 Yes, having a career and being a breadwinner.

00:45:33.320 But also being married and having children.

00:45:35.160 Those were very high on the list of what Trump voting Gen Z men wanted, which is most Gen Z men.

00:45:40.200 Well, what do the 18 to 29-year-old Harris voting women want? 1.00

00:45:45.240 Well, they want careers also by a much higher margin.

00:45:47.960 What they don't want is kids and marriage.

00:45:51.060 They don't define that as success.

00:45:52.580 Only 6% of them.

00:45:54.440 And so these people want totally different things.

00:45:56.600 And they're being indoctrinated, like we talked about with Reddit, into an online monoculture that is filling a gap left by religion.

00:46:05.220 There's a message.

00:46:06.560 There's almost a religious battle in this country for the hearts and minds of these people.

00:46:10.920 And it's being filled with things like hate and the LGBTQ movement. 0.80

00:46:15.880 I think this might blow many people's minds.

00:46:18.000 But there are more people in the 18 to 29-year-old cohort in America who identify as LGBTQ than who identify as Catholic.

00:46:27.960 And of the 18 to 29-year-olds, Catholic is their highest religious ID.

00:46:32.440 And not only that, there's more Gen Z, LGBTQ people than there are 18 to 29-year-olds who say that they are very religious.

00:46:41.240 23% of Gen Z says they're LGBTQ.

00:46:44.080 Only 18% say they're very religious.

00:46:46.700 Less than 20% say they're Catholic.

00:46:48.600 Now, the ones that go to church, like they tend church.

00:46:52.480 And in fact, many of the ones, the Gen Zs that are at church, didn't go because they're parents.

00:46:57.100 They went because they're looking for something.

00:46:59.340 32% of them say that they became Christians just recently or in the last few years.

00:47:04.860 So if you can get them to church and it's a good church, there might be a message there for them.

00:47:10.260 But these people, like we said before, are not capitalistic.

00:47:13.700 Even the ones that voted for Trump overwhelmingly support things like nationalizing major industries.

00:47:18.400 Almost 60% of Gen Z Trump voters support excess wealth confiscation.

00:47:22.340 Only one-third of them oppose income caps.

00:47:26.940 And 62% of all Gen Z says that the economy is unfair to young people.

00:47:30.960 Now, these people, in my opinion, are relatively complacent right now.

00:47:34.380 But what happens when the unemployment rate gets to 25%?

00:47:37.780 These people, many of them, don't think they'll ever own a home.

00:47:41.060 They're completely checked out.

00:47:42.260 And everybody looks at our buckling social safety nets and says, well, you know, this coming demographic collapse is going to be bad. 0.80

00:47:52.320 Well, they're not even accounting for the fact that almost 25% of them are gay. 0.52

00:47:56.360 Like, what kind of families are these people forming?

00:47:59.760 Are they procreating?

00:48:01.020 Are they instilling Western values?

00:48:03.400 Like, we are finally starting to see that we are reaping what we sowed when we took the Ten Commandments out of schools,

00:48:09.580 when we celebrated multiculturalism over American Western values,

00:48:13.780 when we allowed every academic institution to be completely corrupted by Marxists,

00:48:18.020 and when we allowed boardrooms to elevate feeling good and emotional decision-making over objective customer and shareholder-focused decision-making.

00:48:28.100 This is cultural rot.

00:48:30.340 It's almost so bad that it can't be explained just by the fourth turning.

00:48:35.640 The Silicon Valley people have this term they call in-shittification.

00:48:38.940 And what I think we're seeing is cultural in-shittification. 0.85

00:48:41.940 The establishment order, the corporate welfare queens who have formed an oligarchy with the uniparty kleptocracy,

00:48:51.300 these people have squeezed every ounce of rent out of this.

00:48:55.620 The Americans are five times less capable of paying down their share of the government debt than they were just 20 years ago.

00:49:03.900 And so, again, this has been coming for decades, but something changed.

00:49:06.740 Something changed in the middle 2000s.

00:49:09.040 Bernanke bucks, socialization of bankster losses, massive bipartisan rescue acts that shoved money into green energy scams,

00:49:18.480 rebuilding America, and shovel-ready infrastructure projects.

00:49:22.860 Those things did not result in a better America.

00:49:26.740 The American dream is essentially dead.

00:49:28.900 It's unbelievable.

00:49:30.360 We cut corporate tax rates and assumed that a non-Christian society would just trickle that down on Americans. 1.00

00:49:36.760 And what did they do?

00:49:37.400 They sent all those jobs overseas.

00:49:38.700 They offshored everything that wasn't nailed down.

00:49:41.640 It's unbelievable.

00:49:42.360 They'll hire illegal immigrants and flood the border, hire illegal immigrants, and then offshore all of their engineering work to India, 1.00

00:49:48.600 and then bring India here to take the high-paying jobs. 1.00

00:49:52.700 And then they'll send all the manufacturing jobs to China, absolutely gutting the heartland of America. 0.97

00:49:58.860 And then they'll create a society focused on blue population center, big city progressivism that is now going to be co-opted basically by the Red-Green Alliance and through Takiyah, shove Sharia law down our throats. 0.99

00:50:13.460 So this is what's coming.

00:50:15.500 This generation, Gen Z, they do not care that much about capitalism because they haven't even seen capitalism and they weren't even taught who Adam Smith was. 0.99

00:50:25.960 The benefits.

00:50:26.360 This is what happens when you destroy society.

00:50:28.860 These are the people that – and it's like, yes, there are good ones.

00:50:32.360 Yes, Turning Point is reaching some people.

00:50:34.060 But everybody is like, oh, Turning Point is going to fix this.

00:50:35.960 No.

00:50:36.720 Turning Point succeeds because they're the only ones, a voice in the wilderness, doing this, and it's an important message.

00:50:42.840 And it's – that's it.

00:50:44.680 The battlefield is empty.

00:50:45.720 Republicans aren't doing this.

00:50:47.380 You go to –

00:50:47.680 Mark.

00:50:47.900 Yeah.

00:50:49.840 Hang on.

00:50:50.340 We've got to bounce.

00:50:51.180 I don't want to jam this in because I want to have you back on tomorrow to finish it.

00:50:55.040 Where do people go in the interim?

00:50:57.640 I did a whole video on this, Rasmussen underscore poll on YouTube.

00:51:00.880 It's the most recent video.

00:51:02.040 It's a long watch and you'll probably want to drink after it.

00:51:04.260 So go check it out there.

00:51:07.200 We'll see tomorrow.

00:51:08.140 We're going to break it down and show it tomorrow.

00:51:11.420 So the win, reap the whirlwind.

00:51:14.440 We'll see you back here at 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time when you will be back in the world.

00:51:21.660 We'll see you on the next one.

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Bannon's War Room - October 08, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 865： October 7th Two Years Remembered; Chaos In France

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