Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 868： WarRoom Reports On Claim Space Aliens Are Editing Human DNA And Asks If Illegal Aliens Caused Brexit

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00:00:54.700 good evening harnwell here at the helm at steve bannon's war room fascinating um interview

00:01:02.520 coming up for you guys next uh when i saw in the daily mail a couple of days ago that a scientist

00:01:09.820 has discovered according to his research that there appears to be aliens inserting dna into the human

00:01:20.760 genome genome genome via people who still report as having been abducted this was something i wanted

00:01:27.840 to know more about so it's great honor for us today on steve bannon's war room that we have dr max

00:01:33.940 rempel the chief executive and founder of the dna resonance research foundation who's the lead

00:01:42.240 researcher on this specific study that's been reported dr rempel thanks very much for coming on the show

00:01:49.340 first of all now the war room audience the war room posse is known the world over for being

00:01:55.180 extremely perceptive and extremely intelligent it's not however um specialized audience on the

00:02:03.240 intricacies of dna so my first question for you then is what exactly how can you best describe what

00:02:11.900 it is that you have discovered because i i see your quotes as saying that large sequences of dna

00:02:18.200 have been found inserted into 11 families of i think five 581 that you researched tell us tell us

00:02:26.360 firstly what you have discovered and then we'll talk a little bit about the methodology as how you've

00:02:31.200 gone about discovering it thanks ben for having me hello everybody so um as usual in the title of the

00:02:40.420 uh article it's shortened the my original publication said um preliminary evidence and preliminary is super

00:02:48.940 important it's not final evidence it's just the first step it's more like a pilot project proof of

00:02:56.020 principle project and uh yes the idea was to look for

00:03:01.860 traces of alien hybridization program and uh i'm independent scientist since 2008

00:03:12.900 and uh since 2009 i am uh studying ufology as well so in the first weeks as i started studying i already

00:03:24.180 found a group of ufology headed by in rochester upstate new york headed by uh cookies twin fellow and

00:03:31.620 richard dolan and in the first session there was an abductee a contactee a person who was actually

00:03:37.540 taken many times and uh told lots of stories so i had wonderful head start and by 2012 i already wrote

00:03:45.220 a book about alien abductions and my main interest was to combine the idea of of the aliens ufos with the

00:03:52.660 idea of genetics how we combine the idea of uh darwinian evolution create creation story and

00:04:01.220 ancient aliens all of that has to somehow come together and um i after a while i immersed myself

00:04:10.020 and in my first book i already was pretty confident and since then didn't nothing much changed so the

00:04:16.180 idea in 2012 already was there so the idea is that we are we were manipulated by the aliens all through

00:04:26.100 history from from ancient times and uh but there is also recent recent abductions and recent manipulations

00:04:35.140 so we are hybrids ancient hybrids ball but also we're continuously being upgraded improved changed

00:04:42.100 so in recent manipulations the story of lots of abductees documented wonderfully i wouldn't i don't need

00:04:48.660 to prove there is a lot of books a lot of evidence now with artificial intelligence you just ask artificial

00:04:53.860 intelligence you you will be pointed to proper books proper youtube channels and proper interviews and

00:05:00.900 testimonies by people who were abducted so the scenario goes very simply that two parents are taken their

00:05:08.260 uh their sperm and eggs were taken and then genetically manipulated then the mother is impregnated placed 1.00

00:05:18.660 back both both are placed back in their uh homes the memory is usually wiped and then but there are often

00:05:26.900 physical evidence of manipulation surgical pain and so on so so and then a child is born which is a child of

00:05:34.580 two parents but there was genetic manipulation so finally there was an announcement recently like uh

00:05:41.940 early spring go ahead so the first thing i just want to clarify here dr rempel is what you're suggesting is

00:05:49.140 that children who have been born to parents to one or both parents who claim to have been abducted

00:05:56.740 abducted genetically have the the genetic inheritance one would expect of a child of two parents but inserted

00:06:07.460 into that into their genetic uh structure of sequences of dna which have no origin in either of the two parents

00:06:19.300 yeah that's the idea that i didn't prove it again i didn't prove it but i developed a method

00:06:25.780 which can easily prove it so i need more data and now anybody can do it so essentially

00:06:33.460 the idea was that that if there was a genetic manipulation we should find if you analyze both

00:06:38.900 parents and a child we can easily subtract and see compare the sequences of all three and see if

00:06:46.100 there is any insertions which weren't present in either of parents in classical genetics you always

00:06:52.100 get one chromosome from the mother and a copy of that chromosome from the father it's called mendelian

00:06:57.380 inheritance and mendelian inheritance and i just checked for that i used already public data

00:07:05.220 uh and it's called thousand genomes project and i found the insertions in 11 people 11 of spring in

00:07:13.380 those 521 families pool and i checked all the families they had proper mendelian inheritance the 0.93

00:07:20.340 children were always there was a filter i computationally put a filter that children were always

00:07:26.660 really carried parents dna but there were some insertions and and one of the insert and a couple of

00:07:33.140 insertions standing nearby were pretty huge it was um but i think it's about 300 variants in the

00:07:39.300 insertion and like what was 16 kilobases which is 16 000 steps in dna so it was pretty profound and

00:07:48.100 some of their families had similar insertions so that's what i found but i mean there is a huge but

00:07:55.540 i mean for me it was a discovery but then after i self-published it's not peer-reviewed i self-published

00:08:01.380 just uploaded in the platforms um and then um i i looked more i dug more and i found that these

00:08:10.340 samples were cultured essentially these are samples which were taken in the 80s and then uh they took

00:08:17.860 blood they cultured the cells and then they kept in the cell culture and then it was sequenced so

00:08:23.380 unfortunately in the culturing step there could be insertions just from the technology from the

00:08:27.940 technique they infected with the virus it's standard lab procedure for uh amplifying the cells so

00:08:34.660 unfortunately that big sample cannot actually be used to prove the insertion so the method works

00:08:41.140 i show it it can be done actually at home on my laptop and i publish the programs but the programs

00:08:47.460 were written by ai so i use cloud 4.0 now it's uh there is cloud for 4.5 it's much better in chat gpt for

00:08:56.740 programming so it can be done i did it in two three weeks so anybody can do it or you can hire a

00:09:03.380 programmer uh on upwork it would cost like three thousand dollars to compare three sequences and

00:09:09.540 sequencing a human genome costs about a thousand dollars lots of labs do it from saliva or buccal

00:09:15.540 swap from inside the cheek you can swap the cells send it come out to commercial lab you will get back

00:09:20.420 uh a file and you can give it to a programmer and the programmer can compare so anybody can do it

00:09:29.140 and am i right in thinking that your source material then for this analysis are publicly available

00:09:36.740 genetic uh accounts from companies like 23andme and what have you people go for the genetic testing that

00:09:44.740 they publish uh publicly uh the the the the analysis and then you're taking that publicly available

00:09:50.900 analysis and running it through ai to see if there are any unaccounted it's there is a nuance the

00:09:58.500 companies don't publish it they keep the and in recent years they keep all the privacy security and they

00:10:05.140 don't release any information because because recent day in recent years even having the sequence is

00:10:13.940 possibly a breach of privacy so this is older data that's why it's in public databases and the reason

00:10:20.180 it's in public databases is because when there is federal or the or other public funding then you are

00:10:27.220 required to upload your results but nowadays uh the scientists are uploading the results but only

00:10:34.180 researchers with proper approvals can get access to that so i use the older data and that's why it's poor

00:10:41.380 quality but yes it's it's it's thousand genomes project it's a consortium of multiple publicly funded

00:10:49.380 institutions yeah it's available for everyone to test but i think this date is not good for testing that

00:10:54.660 hypothesis we need fresh samples from blood with uncultured samples from blood or saliva or buccal swab

00:11:02.580 would you just give us a two minute reminder and explain what the human genome is

00:11:10.660 okay um dna is actual an actual chemical a polymer and a chromosome contains one molecule

00:11:17.780 continuous molecule of dna if you stretch it it's 10 centimeters uh if you extract dna from an adult

00:11:24.500 body it would be 250 grams and it would because it's fluffy if you can dry it it's fill fill a big pot

00:11:31.300 so it's a chemical and the sequence of steps in dna is known it's called sequence of human genome

00:11:38.340 if you combine all chromosomes together that makes a sequence of human genome and it is

00:11:45.060 six billion letters it would it would fit on a flash drive it's like nearly three three to six

00:11:51.060 gigabytes gigabytes what else do you need to know and the sequence is easy to sequence easy to find it and

00:11:58.740 now lots of genomes of different species are sequenced lots of humans are sequenced and

00:12:03.860 now sequencing is actively used in medical genetics to identify genetic disorders and actually

00:12:09.860 try to treat them one way or another

00:12:13.540 i'm going to ask you in just a couple of moments about the genome and the insertion and the nature of the

00:12:20.100 the genetic sequences the dna sequences that that your your hypothesis is that that has been inserted into

00:12:28.980 the the the the the the the the human dna that that origins with the two parents but first dr

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00:13:55.620 well dr emple i see that one of the things that you've been highlighting is the desire to pursue your research

00:14:05.860 using next generation sequencing known as ngs in the industry or whole genome sequencing wgs could you

00:14:15.540 tell us a bit about those two techniques and what they'll give access to um if you're able to get your

00:14:23.060 hands on them and then just tell me something because this is what has piqued my interest here the genetic

00:14:29.380 the extraneous let's call it this that this way the extraneous

00:14:35.060 dna sequences right we are am i making a false assumption to assume that this is actually

00:14:44.020 human dna um even if it doesn't come from either parent or could it be identified from another

00:14:53.220 source completely yeah the sequence is very rich so once we see the sequences we can tell if it is

00:15:01.220 coming from father mother other humans or from non-humans it would be pretty straightforward if the 0.81

00:15:08.660 sequence is sufficiently long we can we can tell it even sometimes 20 nucleotides 20 steps of dna is

00:15:17.940 sufficient to to tell that um and if it's more than 20 if it's like a thousand that would be a huge

00:15:24.580 evidence that it is not from human um next generation sequencing is around for many years now and um there

00:15:33.540 are two varieties one is called short read sequencing when you when you get 150 nucleotides and that is what

00:15:40.980 costs a thousand dollars per genome to sequence your genome you submit your buccal swab and then you get

00:15:47.620 you back your whole genome sequence with short reads and there are long reads by pack bio where it costs

00:15:54.020 about 3.5 thousand dollars uh and then you get even better quality where you read through difficult parts

00:16:02.980 which are called repetitive sequences so i would be very interested in looking in repetitive sequences

00:16:09.300 between the genes because that's where i think the alien modifications might might be present

00:16:20.260 that is absolutely astonishing um could you the could could you tell me a bit more about these um the

00:16:28.340 large sequences of dna in the 11 families the 11 families out of the 581 these these sequences

00:16:36.660 that uh do not uh do not appear to match either parent even using the technology that's available to you at

00:16:44.820 the moment before you you take your search to the next stage uh that the ngs or the wgs techniques

00:16:52.660 what have you been able to identify about these extraneous genetic sequences um in these 11 cases

00:17:03.860 um i cannot tell much it was just the fact that they were not present in the parents uh i was working

00:17:11.460 only with variants i didn't look at the complete sequence and i was looking oddly only at known human

00:17:17.620 markers so that is a limitation obviously it would be nice to look at between the markers but with the

00:17:25.300 simplistic computation i had i only compared what was published the the the variants human variants and i the

00:17:32.260 variant can be say one letter or another there are four letters in the genome a g c t so it could be a or g and

00:17:41.460 if two if two parents have say aa and aa genotypes in that position and the child has gg that's non-parental

00:17:52.420 variant i didn't go any further but i found that there are stretches of it's called haplotypes but stretches of

00:18:00.500 variants which are not from parents but again it can be an artifact of culture and so i cannot

00:18:07.300 say i proved it it's a i don't even know it's is it alien is it some unknown biological phenomenon

00:18:14.660 or just an artifact at the moment it's unknown the daily mail reports that a high percentage

00:18:25.220 of people with neurodivergent traits such as autism adhd and asperger's could potentially carry these

00:18:37.220 alien genetic insertions um of course the daily mail adds that this is simply speculative but could you

00:18:44.580 say a bit more about that um that that theory yes um the report was very good the reporter exchanged

00:18:55.060 emails with me a couple times and uh i find it very good i don't have any i don't see any errors in

00:19:01.220 there it's he the reporter expressed what what was in the paper and properly asked me questions so

00:19:07.860 that is a theory of speculation but it's an educated guess i i spoke a lot to contactees

00:19:16.340 experiencers and there is a the whole new age community where we speak online in zoom conferences

00:19:23.220 in person in uh festival so i learned a lot in in since 2009 it it has been quite a ride so the idea is

00:19:32.900 that my idea and some other people idea is that autists especially the talented ones the telepathic ones

00:19:41.540 um alien hybrids that we know that the aliens are telepathic it's a pretty common knowledge and that is

00:19:49.940 what they turn on in the hybrids that's telepathy that is turned on telepathy and other psychic

00:19:57.060 abilities it makes a person more sensitive and um and that's why for the hybrids it's hard to stay in a 1.00

00:20:04.740 mainstream civil civilized society because you have constantly um face negativity and face deception and

00:20:13.460 you you cannot yourself survive in civilized society without being deceptive you have to

00:20:19.540 constantly uh lie uh say untruth and um and that's part of civilized life so yeah that's the idea that

00:20:30.980 the autists are alien experimentation they try to upgrade the humanity uh the humankind is overdue for 1.00

00:20:41.380 for the upgrade the whole vibration the whole uh fabric of reality is changing and we need to

00:20:48.580 genetically catch up with that and there is uh an old prediction a new prediction that humankind evolves

00:20:55.700 in a new species it's uh called the sixth root race by blavatsky and it's called the homo galacticus 0.95

00:21:04.180 by bashar it's a well-known message from out there that we are evolving we are not it looks like we don't

00:21:13.060 have the autists are not the next species it's intermediate step and the next species 1.00

00:21:18.420 i heard is going to be starting to be born in about couple years so i'm looking forward we probably will

00:21:25.300 become obsolete like dinosaurs and the new species will start popping up among us they will be telepathic

00:21:32.260 and uh talented and psychically talented we've only got five minutes left now sure of the show my final two

00:21:42.500 questions for you then um it's mentioned that your research as you have yourself that had said on the

00:21:48.980 show um at this moment isn't conclusive my my the two parts of this question are what would it take

00:21:56.500 from the research which which you're hoping to start for that for your conclusion for your findings

00:22:02.820 to become conclusive can you just sort of synthesize what what what you've been saying on the show

00:22:07.860 um what would it take for um for you to discover um for your for your research to be considered

00:22:15.460 conclusive and the second thing is in in the carl popper sense have you got any criteria of

00:22:21.940 falsifiability that is say what would it take for you to discover to suggest that this that your

00:22:28.660 research thus far um isn't actually the case right so the next step i think would be to sequence

00:22:38.180 actual families of abductees i already analyzed genotypes by 23 and me of two families of abductees

00:22:45.700 uh self-reported self-identified and unfortunately 23 and me is only half a million variants and it's

00:22:53.220 not enough i found few insertions but when it's like one of four insertions in a row it's not like

00:22:58.900 having 16 kilobases with hundreds of insertions the statistical power of that is not enough so

00:23:04.820 we need full genome sequencing all genome sequencing and that would cost about um i would say

00:23:11.140 say for seven families about hundred thousand dollars to collect analyze i don't have to do it

00:23:17.300 myself they can mail the samples to the commercial facilities receive back the data and i would analyze

00:23:23.940 the data so i but that would only show that um abductees have higher rate of insertions than

00:23:31.940 average population and um and the question is how many do we have unknown people who don't know who

00:23:39.620 that they were whether they are hybrids so i estimate maybe five to ten percent of the population

00:23:45.860 are hybrid so it's uh the background would be like in a normal population with the five percent say

00:23:51.620 and among abductees it would be maybe 80 percent would have uh insertions then claiming that these

00:23:58.020 are actual alien insertions is much harder than we need actual to sequence actual alien dna and maybe we

00:24:04.740 can go and sequence some of the elongated skulls um uh others other remains mummies and stuff like that

00:24:12.660 and then compare the data so to for final proof there will be quite a feat after that but i think for

00:24:19.140 hundred thousand i could um uh sequence maybe seven families and uh people started already in the past i had some

00:24:26.740 collection of um abductees on conferences and festivals they they come together and now i get emails from abductees um

00:24:35.620 suggesting their dna to to be analyzed so so i think it's it's quite possible

00:24:43.460 and for the the criteria of full survive falsifiability

00:24:49.860 um i think um

00:24:52.820 um it's it's it's a stepwise process and uh the first uh criteria is that percentage of insertions in uh

00:25:06.100 in uh self-identified abductees compared to average population would be would be the first step

00:25:13.060 and then we need the criteria uh we really need the alien dna to show that these insertions are really

00:25:19.060 actually um actually um actually alien um i think if other people will start doing the same and then

00:25:26.020 if you compare the results and we find that the insertions are can repeatedly the same in

00:25:32.260 self-reported abductees then possibly that would be a stronger evidence is it answering your question

00:25:40.180 that's perfect dr rempel you're often described now as an advocate for

00:25:45.460 greater literacy in alien hybridization and dna resonance where can people go on social media

00:25:54.180 either to support your research to learn more about what you're doing or even to inform themselves about

00:25:59.940 what the implications are should your research your groundbreaking research eventually prove to be

00:26:06.100 uh conclusively uh conclusively um verified yeah my site is dna resonance dot org and xg1 dot org um

00:26:17.780 xg1 states for extraterrestrial genetics and uh i recommend just ask artificial intelligence for best youtube

00:26:25.300 channel channels about alien abductions and um light workers and new age new age teachers and uh

00:26:35.620 especially about telepathy there is a big awakening to telepathy i think that's great so telepathy tapes

00:26:41.380 i think would be the next step to to research dr max rempel chief executive and founder of the dna

00:26:50.740 resonance research foundation many thanks indeed from for coming on the show and come back and give us a

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00:31:12.180 welcome back well we had a lot of positive feedback when joseph robertson was last on the

00:31:17.460 show to give us the briefing on the fabian society we're very pleased that he's come back on the show

00:31:24.180 today uh we're going to break down an interview an important interview that nick clegg gave to um to

00:31:31.460 cnn uh nick clegg you of course you remember former british deputy prime minister under david cameron in

00:31:40.100 between 2010 and 2015 and the um meta he was president for global affairs before i think it was

00:31:50.660 designing last year um let's start off with the um with the first clip denver if you wouldn't mind

00:32:00.340 i think the brewing discontent in the united kingdom about being part of this european club

00:32:07.140 more or less started from the moment which at which the united kingdom joined the european community

00:32:12.180 in the early 70s there's there's always been this tension between the kind of continental

00:32:16.580 centric european union built around particularly germany and france and the

00:32:21.300 act of post-war reconciliation and the uk being much more of a kind of maritime

00:32:26.580 island nation it's always had these tensions

00:32:31.700 joseph robertson what interested me about this interview uh and first you can respond and saying if

00:32:40.020 i've got this right because to me nick clegg basically is the voice of the of the the mainstream

00:32:46.580 apolitical british establishment um it's not really mediated by partisan politics i know that's what you

00:32:54.820 think is exactly i think what the british establishment would think as the interview goes on you see he says

00:33:01.460 a number of things which i think are true um but of course fudges the conclusions but that first part

00:33:08.020 there the introduction is what you're saying that strikes me as being pretty accurate to describe

00:33:13.860 where the uk is that the mentality the island mentality which isn't a pejorative of of of the uk is right

00:33:22.500 i think broadly yeah in in in broad terms the problem with with nick and god bless him i'd almost

00:33:28.260 forgotten he existed but other centrists like him in this country as well who perhaps want to play at uh

00:33:34.660 being the voice of the adult in the room not getting too aggressive on either side of the

00:33:38.900 debate is that they forget their historical timelines and of course the issue wasn't just

00:33:44.260 us joining the european union it was the maastricht treaty which was really the creation of the

00:33:50.340 eu that's a different issue to joining the single market um but what that did is it embedded our

00:33:56.980 foreign policy our exchange of information trade deals etc far more closely with the trajectory that

00:34:03.940 europe was on um of course we still retain the pound but nick is kind of conveniently skipping

00:34:09.940 over the fact that one of the big issues wasn't just the immigration or just sovereignty or currency

00:34:15.860 or any of these things but it's actually this idea that we might be moving towards a european army

00:34:20.420 that we might actually lose our sense of national determination there was a lot more going on i think and

00:34:25.860 he likes to gloss over that fact um but yeah the reality is you know broadly he's correct about the

00:34:32.420 reasons i i guess we are a maritime nation we are an empire originally so we are used to doing business

00:34:38.580 with the whole world and not just europe and in fact if you go back historically europe hasn't

00:34:42.820 particularly been a strong ally of the united kingdom we spent a long time warring with france

00:34:48.820 um up until sort of early modern history um and yeah so i think nick nick's nick's basic premise is

00:34:56.980 that you know if we could all just get together in a room and sing kumbaya then maybe things will be

00:35:01.540 better um and i think it goes a little bit deeper than that that that that that is that is that is the

00:35:09.540 the pure state of of the liberal democrat mentality um did it i'm glad he i'm glad he says i'm glad he

00:35:17.700 started off with that um and we're gonna go we're gonna get on to the immigration point second um but

00:35:27.220 but i'm glad that he flagged this thing up right because there is another issue in addition to the

00:35:31.860 immigration issue which is obviously the fundamental front and center there is this idea in the uk

00:35:39.540 there was when we were still in the eu it didn't fit right with the british mentality thinking that

00:35:45.700 there was another organization that that was um sovereign that was over the british parliament

00:35:53.060 because traditionally and there's some debates here about the supreme court but let's not go down that

00:35:58.900 rabbit hole right now because the supreme court has been created by an act of parliament and can easily be

00:36:04.900 rescinded by repealing the act of parliament in the uk thousand year evolving parliamentary tradition

00:36:12.420 parliament the king in parliament is sovereign there is no authority above that and it did not sit well

00:36:19.300 with the british mindset that you have a lot of these european countries that have only been democracies

00:36:25.140 for five minutes in in brussels producing laws and regulations that over the over rod uh overrode and the uk

00:36:35.060 parliament there is that sovereignty issue and i think it does come down to the fact that as an island

00:36:40.420 nation we've always had this this a separate evolving political philosophy the anglo-american

00:36:47.460 tradition and not really the the continental one which is sort of pushed very strongly by napoleon i'm glad he

00:36:53.860 flagged that up um but let's get on to the immigration thing now um denver if you wouldn't mind clip two

00:37:00.500 conservatives decided to hold the referendum the thing that really really kind of dominated all

00:37:06.580 the headlines at the time was the uh mediterranean migration crisis people fleeing the conflict in

00:37:12.580 syria in particular and there's a stable of very eurosceptic anti-european newspapers in the united

00:37:19.700 kingdom who are very very powerful and they extremely skillfully conflated the question of

00:37:24.980 our economic status in this huge single market which i remain of the view uh had done uh had helped

00:37:31.780 the united kingdom enormously they conflated that with do you want all these people coming across

00:37:36.660 the mediterranean and flooding into our country so this is where he starts i think to go on a parallel

00:37:44.180 track um this is the often the suggestions that you get from the remain remainers that the euroscepticism

00:37:52.180 in the uk was simply whipped up by the murdoch press um and wouldn't have existed in a latent sense

00:38:00.020 um in the uk if it weren't if it weren't for that what was your reaction to that

00:38:05.380 well i mean yeah nick again conveniently skipping around the the real issues at play you know immigration

00:38:10.980 uh was you know not even bit on the horizon in in 1992 with the maastricht treaty and i think he's

00:38:18.580 conveniently sidestepping um you know the like some of the issues i've already started to mention but

00:38:24.260 the other thing to to bear in mind is that of course it was really under the the cameron-clegg

00:38:30.580 partnership um in 2012 that immigration really started to take a serious uptick in this country

00:38:38.020 this isn't something that had been happening since the 90s it didn't even really happen under blay

00:38:42.820 certainly paved the legislative way for it to happen he opened open the borders but the people

00:38:47.540 who really flooded the country with uh not just the small boat crossings which are relatively new in

00:38:53.540 terms of british political history across the channel but also in terms of wider acceptance of refugees

00:39:00.740 from the continent um and other deals that were made that all comes post 2010 really um obviously

00:39:08.260 culminating in the so-called boris wave and boris johnson which is long after brexit had been done

00:39:13.620 so you know i think this idea that immigration had a big role to play back in 2016 when the

00:39:19.460 you know the original vote was taken is is absolute nonsense i mean i remember that was one of my first

00:39:24.820 major votes you know i'm in my late 20s now um it's a pivotal political moment for many people my age

00:39:30.740 and i don't think i was really thinking about immigration i was thinking purely more about

00:39:35.060 sovereignty that's why myself and my friends who are perhaps more politically minded debated the topic

00:39:41.300 i think if you if you ask the north of england was it immigration that drove you to vote for

00:39:45.460 brexit you get a resounding no and that just shows you how out of touch uh people like clegg really 0.99

00:39:51.940 are with the the wider population um i think it's always interesting listening to him speak because

00:39:57.220 he talks about consensus narratives and how you know parties need to work together on the center to

00:40:03.380 keep keep the uh the populists out he likes to say things like that quite a lot um the reality is what

00:40:09.140 he's trying to say is he wants to keep the voice of the nation out of westminster uh i think you can

00:40:13.860 read between the lines there and essentially realize that this was very much not just a sovereignty

00:40:17.780 issue with the eu but also a growing uh discontent with our own leadership because we were too

00:40:24.100 beholden to international treaties and willing to actually chop up our own sovereignty purely for the

00:40:29.620 sake of a more convenient globalist structure um and the other point to make of course on that is

00:40:34.820 that when immigration did come around as a big topic um you know probably more towards towards the late

00:40:41.780 2010s really clegg was nowhere to be seen um you know he can talk about you know the media stirring

00:40:48.260 up this narrative but the reality is that that was only stirred up because the people wanted it to be

00:40:53.620 stirred up again the british press it does try to lead on perhaps character assassinations and

00:40:59.540 attempts to take down individual politicians but generally speaking it's pretty good at reading the

00:41:03.380 room on what the british people want to hear being talked about unless perhaps it's the bbc which of course

00:41:08.660 stands for absolutely nothing except itself um so i would disagree the the i i what i um what i've

00:41:17.700 seen what he's trying to do there and this is obviously when liberal liberal democrats talk about

00:41:22.260 immigration they're obviously trying to suggest that the the brexit vote was being powered by a

00:41:28.500 by a subversive below radar racism and xenophobia um and that of course is absolutely an outrageous

00:41:36.420 slur standby jones i'm going to come back to you for um um in in two minutes as we dig down on the

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00:44:09.220 the third clip but immigration was the rocket fuel and it's almost everywhere in europe i definitely

00:44:16.500 think it i definitely think it was other people might as some people say oh no it was because of

00:44:20.900 all the economic difficulties post the 2008 financial crisis i think that was definitely an important

00:44:26.660 contributing factor but yes i think the very visible items on people's evening news on the front page of

00:44:34.180 the newspapers of the newspapers of this what came across to people as uncontrolled flight of folk across

00:44:40.900 the mediterranean definitely was as you put it the rocket fuel for sure 0.80

00:44:48.820 so here's the hypothesis that there are many that many even on our side of the debate joseph um

00:44:55.300 um thinks that that immigration was the the rocket fuel for for brexit um and i can i can um i can buy

00:45:04.500 into that somewhat but i have to draw the line at the suggestion that this is really uh when he's

00:45:10.900 talking about immigration it's really code for talking about racism yeah totally i mean if you look 1.00

00:45:17.780 through the the demographic breakdown um many second or third generation immigrants in this country voted

00:45:23.780 for brexit i mean so it's not really a racist issue i think there's more uh perhaps you could talk about

00:45:29.860 the labor market i think gains the economic economic issues as perhaps more appropriate um because of

00:45:35.940 course what immigration was doing even at that time was taking away more low-skilled low-paying jobs

00:45:41.940 from the economy and therefore not allowing people to get a foot on the ladder that was already

00:45:45.620 beginning that was certainly starting that certainly contributed but this idea that mass and controlled

00:45:50.020 immigration was was the rocket fuel for brexit is just total nonsense i mean we wanted to move away 0.96

00:45:55.540 from every aspect of the european union and sure you know immigration was a concern it was one part of

00:46:00.740 that but it was in my opinion at the time a far smaller part than it is now in the british political

00:46:06.020 landscape i mean you can't move a day without seeing a headline on uh immigration deportation or any

00:46:11.700 other flavor of um you know debate on that topic now and of course that's something that nigel ferrari 0.91

00:46:18.100 is massively capitalizing on now and he was one of the voices speaking out about this you know 15

00:46:22.980 years ago before it was fashionable but that's the whole point i think it wasn't that fashionable to

00:46:27.460 talk about immigration you had lone voices like nigel's crying in the wilderness prepare the way for mass 1.00

00:46:33.060 immigration and eventually it did happen but i don't think that brexit was you know necessarily a

00:46:38.740 symptom of that i think it was a growing malcontent with a supranational elite and yes the echr and

00:46:45.620 uh you know of course our own supreme court still stay in place and perhaps tie us to the european

00:46:50.660 union still somewhat in in the way they operate but largely we have been able to do trade trade deals

00:46:56.740 around the world that you know we wouldn't have been able to do pre-2019 pre-2020 and they've been

00:47:02.740 very successful i mean look at the amount of commerce that we're now able to do with america and

00:47:07.220 going back to that point you made earlier about the anglospheric relationship particularly the you

00:47:12.020 know the kansas nations canada australia new zealand uk and of course the us being a being a big brother

00:47:19.140 partner in all of that um those things are now allowed to flourish in a way that they weren't before

00:47:24.500 because we can go out and do our own trade deals um though i'm still waiting for singapore on the

00:47:31.780 thames um okay then let's go for the um let's go for the fourth and final clip that kind of politics

00:47:37.780 needs to learn how to deal with the populist by being a lot more aggressive and populist itself i

00:47:44.900 think at the moment what we've got certainly united kingdom and across europe what you've got is you've

00:47:49.460 got a bunch of political parties that were formed in in a in a period of time which no longer applies

00:47:55.620 it was all about high tax low tax you favor the state not in favor of the state and so on

00:48:00.020 now the dividing line is a completely different one it's about culture wars it's about openness of

00:48:05.860 being closed particularly around immigration around globalization and so you've got a bunch

00:48:10.180 of parties who actually agree more with each other than they do with the insurgent populace but they

00:48:15.780 haven't yet worked out how to become the sum of their part that's it right that that is he comes so

00:48:23.380 close to the truth but of course swerves away from the conclusion at the last moment this is the uni

00:48:28.820 party this is the the toy party that tried to sabotage brexit after the vote getting together

00:48:34.580 with labor that that sort of um sort of was always you know uh you know long after the 1980s and the

00:48:40.980 longest suicide note in history of the it's manifesto in 83 big more sort of forced for staying in

00:48:48.180 brexit for the remainers he's right on this point you have a uni party that is out of step with the

00:48:54.820 british public uh and when his um conclusion his recipe for success therefore is to try doing uh

00:49:01.860 uh uh uh populism on pro-european grounds really they lost the trick because they had everything in

00:49:09.540 their hands but they failed to make it work for the ordinary working guy and hence nigel farash has

00:49:16.820 emerged as the uh as the alternative to the uni party lockdown joseph oberson yeah i mean the biggest

00:49:24.660 con in this country is lib lab com you know and that's that's literally the three-party uni party

00:49:30.580 uh they don't really change policy between the three of them on the core issues they all believe

00:49:35.940 in net zero they all believe in similar levels of taxation although perhaps you know the tories

00:49:40.820 occasionally to bring that back down slightly um but in in general and certainly on mass immigration

00:49:47.300 the tories were the worst out of the bunch um so this idea that we have any choice in the matter

00:49:52.340 i mean again you know you only need to ask former prime minister liz trust about this

00:49:56.660 and the reality is when she tried to radically shift the narrative thinking that she had control

00:50:01.220 as prime minister the blob responded by saying oh no you don't and they kicked her out and you know this

00:50:06.900 is the way our not just our elected officials acts and this is a point i made before uh you know it's

00:50:13.540 actually the administrative deep state it's it's the way they think and their thinking feeds into the

00:50:18.820 the politics of this you don't step out of line and if you do then you are met with consequences

00:50:25.380 now i find it interesting that he essentially says we need to deal with the populists so let's become

00:50:29.780 populists because this is a really key point they don't understand the lexicon they're using

00:50:35.140 populism as a narrative has no connotation of left or right i would say zach polanski now leader of the

00:50:41.140 green party in the uk is a hard leftist he is a populist in many ways he he he typifies a populist

00:50:47.300 he says absolutely crazy and outrageous statements to garner attention from people who think want to

00:50:52.420 hear it populism uh i think has been conflated with peronism um which for a more more politically

00:51:00.100 minded viewers will be you know known to them as something in argentina um that that kind of

00:51:06.660 right-wing populism which is what they're talking about is something very different from what we're

00:51:10.820 talking about sadly that's all we've got time for we could continue this joseph robertson

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