Stephen K. Bivens joins host Stephen K. Banff in the War Room to discuss the Charlie Kirk assassination, the deep state, and why we should all burn daylight because we are all in it together.
00:06:32.000And of course, the Democrat nominee, it's just a word salad.
00:06:38.000She can't even explain it. So it's it shows you how radicalized the Democratic Party's become.
00:06:43.000But I think people better get ready. It's going to get a lot worse.
00:06:46.000And I think that's because you saw the Supreme Court today.
00:06:50.000The the argument about, you know, D.E.I. districts.
00:06:54.000You've seen this controversy over the mid decade census.
00:07:00.000You've seen the redistricting fight. We could pick up twenty one.
00:07:03.000If you add all that together, I think the Times is saying on the on the on the D.E.I. alone.
00:07:08.000The racial imbalance, I think the Times has is picking up twelve seats, Politico 19 seats.
00:07:13.000That does not include all the redistricting fights, which is another twenty one gross seats there.
00:07:19.000And you add in really doing a real census where illegal aliens are not counted.
00:07:23.000They're never going to take back the House in the Senate.
00:07:26.000And so you're only going to what gets me is we're on an arc that they're only progressively going to get more violent.
00:07:33.000And you can see this in their worship of Mangini, the worship of this the alleged assassin of of Charlie Kirk.
00:07:42.000So I think it's going to get a lot worse. Given that, and I hope you're wrong, but I sense you're not.
00:07:49.000What do you make of Mike Lawler's Congressman Mike Lawler's response and the governing board of the National Young Republicans Organization to these text messages, which I'm not endorsing, by the way.
00:08:01.000But, you know, calling someone a retard or these kids should be destroyed.
00:08:07.000Like it's an it's an interesting contrast. The Republicans kind of are very quick to shame their own.
00:08:15.000They'll always fold. Establishment Republicans will always fall, as you know, this better than anybody in any fight.
00:08:23.000They're going to fold and they're going to try to be supplicants to the media.
00:08:28.000They're going to be try to be supplicants to the media, kind of Chamber of Commerce, big donor attitude that we want to be invited to the parties.
00:08:35.000We want to be in the club. We want to have The New York Times write nice things about us.
00:08:40.000That's where we're heading towards a civil war. I don't think there's any doubt.
00:08:45.000We look at the indices out there and these are unbridgeable divides right now and getting deeper.
00:08:51.000And the Democratic Party is getting more and more radical. Look, everything we're dealing with right now is about illegal aliens, whether it's they want to spend a trillion dollars on their health care,
00:09:00.000whether they're demanding a census that counts them for congressional races and for Electoral College,
00:09:06.000whether it's the mass deportations that we're trying to get done in Portland, Chicago, Los Angeles.
00:09:12.000If they don't have illegal aliens and they don't have a foreign entity in here and folks in here,
00:09:19.000they don't have a there's no way for them to put together the votes.
00:09:23.000They love democracy, but it's just the math doesn't work. You saw the Supreme Court today.
00:09:27.000You see these redistricting fights and the redistricting fights are kind of like the kids in this chat room.
00:09:32.000If we had enough stones and urgency and maximization strategy, the 21 would already be up on the table, right?
00:09:39.000We'd be now executing how you do it. We have to do a whole fight about that.
00:09:43.000So the establishment, because they come up in this paradigm where the established order controls everything and they want to be part of the established order.
00:09:54.000And we see that we got here, you know, we've gotten here over 40 or 50 years and we've won enough times as Republicans, the House, the Senate, the presidency, the country's basically on a cliff of an abyss.
00:10:06.000And if it hadn't been for Trump with all his imperfections, the country be over.
00:10:11.000So it's just going to get worse. We're going to always have like this thing in Kansas where they're going to throw, you know, people under the bus immediately and cower and be supplicants and ask for forgiveness for people who are not worthy of us asking for forgiveness.
00:10:27.000And the fight is going to get more intense. The left is going to get more radical. They're going to go up more of the escalatory ladder.
00:10:34.000Look, man, Jeannie's a hero to them. You've got to face. And Mondami, he's a Marxist jihadist that's going to win, I don't know, by 15 points or so in New York City.
00:10:45.800Sadiq Khan, everything they have is even more radical than you can anticipate. It's getting worse every day.
00:10:53.300They're not being resolved. There's nothing and it's really nothing to debate. We have this chasm.
00:10:57.460And to me, it's the problem. The issue I have is that the Trump administration is in Pam Bondi and the crew are not moving quickly enough.
00:11:07.180They had a thing today in the Oval, which was great about stopping, you know, violence in the streets. That's great. And I appreciate that.
00:11:12.860But we have to focus on the deep state. We have to focus on taking this apparatus.
00:11:17.460We only have a short window of time, I think, to be able to do this.
00:11:21.460And we're not prioritizing it and we're not hiring enough U.S. attorneys to focus on it.
00:11:25.360And we're not getting that. If we don't get that done, these statistics we're putting out and the great job at cash and people and Dan Bonner are doing about arresting bad guys is not going to matter because you're going to have more bad guys later invited invited back in by these people.
00:11:37.860So now it's time to, I think, maximize our own strategy, seize the institutions and move with a sense of urgency.
00:11:45.360Can you give a couple examples of what you think DOJ should be doing right now?
00:11:51.760Well, first of all, I think DOJ, we've got attorneys. I think we've got to go back to the beginning.
00:11:55.360You have to go back to the you have to go back to the election. You have to go back to January 6th.
00:11:59.960Look at Nancy Pelosi. There's a young reporter, Alison Steinberg, over at Lindell TV.
00:12:06.260She asked Nancy Pelosi a question today about January 6th about the National Guard.
00:12:09.880And Nancy Pelosi turned around, screamed at her from a few feet away, shut up.
00:12:13.840How can you ask that? They're so sensitive about January 6th.
00:12:16.860So you've got to go back to the stolen election of 2020. You've got to go back to January 6th.
00:12:21.000You have to take the whole, continue. You have to go back to the initial, the whole thing on Crossfire Hurricane.
00:12:27.440You have to put the, you have to adjudicate everything they did and we have to do it in public.
00:12:31.540Even throwing the pandemic in there. And the response, the summer of love. All of it.
00:12:35.860We, if to keep this republic and keep it as a constitutional republic, we have to be fair about this.
00:12:41.920We have to be transparent about it. We have to adjudicate it by the rule of law, but it has to be done.
00:12:48.020And you see, we're making a surprise. You got Comey with a couple of charges on appetizer.
00:12:52.540John Bolton, you know, maybe with a couple of Tisha James, but it's not good enough and it's not fast enough.
00:12:58.140And the only way we're going to solve this is U.S. Attorneys. I think we're 25 or 30 short is what I'm hearing.
00:13:04.520There's just some sort of backlog and you can't, you can't depend on a halogen coming out of nowhere and being able to drop a couple right away.
00:13:12.300We have to take apart the deep state. We have to do it now in every aspect that's happened over the last couple of years.
00:13:19.620You know, Charlie's, I know you were at the Student Action Summit down at Tampa.
00:13:24.240And normally, you know me, I'm running out there, we're at war and I'm dropping the mic and running around like a madman.
00:13:29.260I told Charlie before, I said, this is going to be very different.
00:13:32.060I said, I'm going to go out with what I call the Tampa Resolves.
00:13:35.000And it is, we have to prioritize everything else we're working on.
00:13:39.280It has to be to go after the deep state, that combination of national security, intelligence, law enforcement, the Pentagon,
00:13:47.500its interconnections with Wall Street and big tech, that we have to do that.
00:13:52.100If we don't go after that and do it now with a sense of urgency, we're never going to have another shot.
00:13:57.680This is the time we have to do it. We have to make it a priority.
00:14:00.080And I said, you're going to find out something in this.
00:14:01.820The third resolve I said was, no, do it now, do it with urgency.
00:14:05.880And the third was, who's ever not with us is against us.
00:14:10.720This is the best way we can unmask everybody.
00:14:13.200Because this is not going to be pleasant.
00:14:17.080You and I are called, you're called more names than I am, but we're both, you know, by the Tel Aviv Levin crowd, we're called everything, right?
00:14:24.440They're going to do more of that because the deep state is also connected with certain of our allies.
00:14:30.340You have to go do this and you have to do it.
00:14:33.880You're going to get thrown out of your country club, maybe.
00:14:37.240But if you're going to save the republic, we have to do this now.
00:14:40.300And a part of that, you're going to see if you do that, the political, the escalating political violence of the more and more radical left and quite frankly, more and more of the central apparatus of the Democratic Party is going to be gutted.
00:14:53.400And that's why I think, you know, President Trump, I know, wants to focus.
00:14:56.920Todd Blanche talked about today in the Oval Office.
00:15:00.460And it's only going to happen, I think, if people like you and myself and some others keep saying, hey, guys, I understand you got a thousand things you're working on, but we have to start to rank order priorities.
00:15:12.020And this has to be the priority right now for President Trump.
00:15:15.400I mean, there are so many places you could start, but it seems obvious that you would start with the FBI.
00:15:21.320And we now know it's confirmed that there were hundreds of plainclothes FBI agents in the crowd on January 6th.
00:15:28.460So that changes that that's not crowd control.
00:15:33.860And it kind of confirms what a lot of people have been saying for a number of years now, that there was a fake element that there are a lot of sincere people protesting what they thought was the theft of the election.
00:15:45.080But there were also clearly agitators in the crowd.
00:15:48.520But it was a setup to some extent, obviously, hundreds of plainclothes FBI agents.
00:15:54.620And, you know, I almost got fired for saying that a couple of years ago was obvious to me.
00:17:19.920In fact, you would not think of not doing the whistleblowers were a handful.
00:17:23.180I mean, I'd sit on the on the war every day and say, hey, look, you're not going to be able to use the SS excuse that, hey, I was just following orders.
00:17:30.400You have we've only had a handful of whistleblowers and we know from the other day of even getting this information you're talking about and others talking about came from.
00:17:39.200It's not that Dan and Cash admit we don't control it.
00:17:45.080This came through some person that was afraid of getting wrapped up in this.
00:17:48.780But the FBI, to me, should be downsized by two thirds, first off, by splitting it up and then going through.
00:17:54.840Because remember, the second part of the scandal and maybe the more important is that Ray Baldface lied to people for years and years and years.
00:18:03.520And the oversight, it just kind of went over the oversight if we hadn't won and come back from nowhere because they never thought we were coming back.
00:18:10.660Right. That's one of the reasons they were so blatant.
00:18:12.460We wouldn't know any of this today because Congress didn't perform its functions.
00:18:15.740And I might add that this was a Republican administration.
00:18:20.100It was President Trump's administration.
00:18:21.560And we can kind of control for a moment the apparatus of which they lied to us.
00:18:26.460And there was no follow up on the oversight.
00:19:30.760You've been in Republican politics really at the center of it for so long where Republicans seem to spend most of their time policing, the leaders policing their members and their voters.
00:19:55.060I mean, the policing is immediate and there's no discussion about how this happened or whatever.
00:20:01.080But for the left, you let them get away with the most aggressive crime.
00:20:04.040And they know that they know that we're they know that institutionally the party is weak because the party is one, not a party of government, obviously, of individuals.
00:20:14.760But it's attracted and, you know, this better than anybody, just people who kind of want to get along, who want to be have people not say bad things about them, you know, and the way to do that is just to go along.
00:20:27.400And if we can make some changes on the margin, it would work.
00:20:30.680If that strategy worked, the country wouldn't be on the edge of the abyss.
00:20:36.060Even with Trump, we are on the edge of the abyss and people and many people waking up to the MAGA base knows that they got the pitchforks.
00:21:17.280But there's still the the the, you know, the correction police, the correct, you know, the be politically correct is still there and still the mentality of it.
00:21:25.680The only way we're going to do that is to just take action and get some scalps.
00:21:32.540And that's why I think you're starting to see through some of these indictments, maybe Bolton, but it's not enough.
00:21:36.580You're not getting to the central apparatus part, which we have to get to.
00:21:41.280I mean, a lot of the political consultants at the highest level, Republican political consultants seem very consumed with knocking off Marjorie Taylor Greene or Thomas Massey.
00:21:53.320You don't have to agree with everything those people are calling for, but you can't say they're liberal.
00:22:00.360I mean, Massey's kind of a libertarian, but he's a lot more conservative than, I don't know, Lindsey Graham or Michael Lawler by any measure.
00:22:06.640And yet they seem like they're spending 80 percent of their day trying to find a primary challenger for Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:23:37.040It's totally it's totally random from your interview and that Israel first has to have a candidate since they just got crushed here in the last couple of days.
00:23:45.760But it is because certain vested interests want people to kind of toe to a line.
00:24:09.360The only question was about Gaza and Israel.
00:24:13.100They're asking this guy with everything else going on and, quite frankly, how he's a Marxist shahadist.
00:24:18.180But he has kind of taken populism and, you know, talk about affordability.
00:24:22.820You think you might want to get in back of the Working Families Party and DSA and how they replicate the Trump, you know, turning point war room precinct strategy for ground game for low information, low propensity voters.
00:24:35.840And this is why they're blowing guys out, because they had no money at first against Cuomo.
00:24:39.360Now, we're not going to talk about that.
00:24:40.720We're going to talk about arresting Bibi Netanyahu.
00:24:54.540And when I gave that keynote speech to kind of wrap up the National Conservatism Conference, which is kind of got a strong neocon, you know, take on it, I said to quote T.E. Lawrence from the Seven Pillars of Wisdom, what they told him at the time when he showed up at Cairo's military headquarters.
00:25:13.480They said, look, the Middle East is a sideshow to the main event, the Western Front.
00:25:18.780The Arab revolt is a sideshow to a sideshow.
00:25:21.360And I said, the Middle East right now for us, with everything geopolitically going on in the economic war, China and in our nation sliding toward a civil war around insurrection with a party like the Democrats or have an escalatory ladder of violence.
00:25:36.260Because the Middle East is a sideshow and the Israel issue is a sideshow to a sideshow.
00:25:43.020And you can't let it be the central thing that you revolve around.
00:25:47.620And I'm a supporter of Israel and I'm a supporter of the Jewish people.
00:25:51.460But the Israel first aspect of this has taken our eyes so far off the ball because they kept saying it's going to tear Magga apart.
00:25:57.760It's not going to tear Magga apart because it's not a big enough fundamental issue to tear us apart.
00:26:02.480And that's why we have to focus on the time that we have to really take down the central thing that President Trump will be known for.
00:26:10.500One will be some of this piece on the Eurasian landmass, et cetera.
00:26:13.640But the central thing, if he can accomplish it and we must accomplish it on his tour of duty, is the deconstruction of the administrative state and the destruction of the deep state.
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00:31:24.060What are the midterms going to look like, do you think?
00:31:26.820Well, hey, if we get the redistricting things, and I think Mike Davis was on the show earlier,
00:31:33.600and of course the left is melting down this afternoon after the Supreme Court, you know, debates.
00:31:41.260So the Supreme Court today on the DEI congressional gerrymandering districts, if we get a win there,
00:31:48.680and we do the redistricting that is only fair to the American people, if we get those, you could add another, you know, 10 or 15, maybe 20 net seats.
00:34:47.960Because remember, the traditional Catholics they went after, that's my parish.
00:34:53.460And my parents were blue-collar people, started a little traditional Latin mass parish as a spinoff from the Benedictine Abbey back in the late 70s.
00:35:01.720And these are the people that have eight and nine kids.
00:35:04.740A couple of people, the kids go in the Marines or the Navy.
00:35:24.300When I was in Danbury Prison, some of the most remarkable men I've ever met are these men that are in prison for five, six, seven, eight years for praying the rosary outside of an abortion clinic.
00:35:38.500And, of course, they have women that are grandmothers in the other prisons.
00:35:41.600If you look across the board, the FBI, if we think it lost its way under Hoover, and we think institutionally it drifted, and even in 9-11, it's just had a terrible track record.
00:35:51.640There is a deep rot in there that's quite frankly anti-American.
00:35:58.100So now when really America, you're right, would need it as an institution most, you actually have to go in and institutionally take this thing apart, I think bifurcate it, get the two law enforcement and counterintelligence and intel out of there, and then deal with the law enforcement.
00:36:13.880But still, layer by layer, you have to take it apart.
00:36:17.340You have to bring in a new generation of FBI agents, train them up, almost start like Hoover, start it over again, think it through, and then go.
00:36:27.060Otherwise, you're just putting a Band-Aid on a shotgun wound, and it's not going to work.
00:36:32.180And I think that that's the mentality.
00:37:01.400Where's the Speaker of the House in this?
00:37:03.400No, he's the epitome of what you talk about law.
00:37:06.020He's just – he's the personification of – we wouldn't have been in this shape with all the elections we won, right, both at the presidential level, House Senate.
00:37:15.520We wouldn't have been in this shape if you had men and women of courage and basically saying, I don't care what they say about me.
00:37:23.400I don't care if I'm here for two terms or 20 terms.
00:37:25.780I'm going to get to the heart of this.
00:37:27.140He's a go-along-to-get-along guy, obviously.
00:37:29.320And that's the institutional mindset over there.
00:37:48.380So I think that institution has to be changed.
00:37:51.880But I think we've got to go after the executive branch institution because we're not going to have a lot of time, and we're going to meet tremendous resistance on this.
00:37:58.720The deeper one, the FBI is bad as the FBI is, which is terrible.
00:38:02.780When you look at the intelligence apparatus and the national security part with the Pentagon, because remember, why did we just have a huge win and basically breaking the back of the Israel First people?
00:38:15.440Because about the Iran-Depersion situation, right?
00:38:19.420And we now know from the Times of Israel, right, not from the Tucker Carlson show and not from War Room, not from Breitbart, you now know that the War Cabinet's minutes and debate was about a two-year stretch for this nuclear program to really be of danger or kick in.
00:38:36.380Two years, of which we said all the time, not two days, not two weeks.
00:38:40.100Yet the CIA, and I say Ratcliffe's a guy we ought to bring up and have him testify in front of Congress and grill him.
00:38:46.740How did he give the president totally different information than Tulsi Gabbard and her team who turned out to be right?
00:38:54.260And remember, we went for two months, and Tulsi Gabbard was thrown under the bus every day.
00:38:58.420There was a horrible article about her.
00:39:02.700And she got a little bit ostracized there for a minute until people realized, hello, she actually did an aggregate of all the different 17 branches, and she was right.
00:39:15.420There was no change from her original testimony.
00:39:17.660It was about two years away or thereabouts, according to the War Cabinet of the Israel government, Israeli government, the Netanyahu government.
00:39:26.860And it kind of comports to when Brett Baer pressed him up that Sunday night, was saying, hey, why was this so urgent the other day?
00:39:33.340And he said, well, you know, we're six months to a year away.
00:39:53.080You have to put a team together to go do it, and the people you put together have to be incredibly tough and incredibly focused.
00:39:59.560But that's why I think I've been arguing for a special prosecutor for this entire kind of deep state, or at least the conspiracy against Trump in the first term and rolling over to the second term of Clapper and Brennan and all these guys.
00:40:13.240So I think you either do it that way or internally, if you can do it but hire more U.S. attorneys, cut the FBI down by at least a third immediately, even if you have to give up some things you're working on.
00:40:26.600Because I think right now the people are saying, hey, look, it's great with the crime thing you did today, Cash, I feel better.
00:42:43.720Because this, and this was before Mondami, so now they've got to count two.
00:42:47.580But the hero worship of that guy, the hero worship of the alleged assassin, and I'm not even sure.
00:42:56.280I haven't seen enough to believe he's the assassin.
00:42:58.980I think it's a much deeper conspiracy.
00:43:01.160But the hero worship by the radicals on the left, particularly the most radical, which may be these trannies, right?
00:43:09.700They're now basically very disturbed men and very manipulative men.
00:43:13.600And that's who most of them are, right, who are now down on this and want it to be a gunfight.
00:43:19.640I said, you should watch online, and you should watch how they're kind of turned into heroes if you want to see where this thing's going to go.
00:43:27.820Because it's not going to, with Reddit and these other chat rooms, it's only getting darker.
00:43:33.220And the more they lose, and particularly the more that they see that structurally the country's changed,
00:43:38.600and finally with Trump and others, you've had people that will call that out.
00:44:08.060They're not going to embrace some sort of Martin Luther King or Gandhi, the underlying philosophy and ethics of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
00:45:57.660So the sign, all the risk out there for the family without being paranoid and go through a risk mitigation exercise and to leave that to leave that thought is the reason I make everybody comes to work for me.
00:46:14.140The only there's only two films shown at Harvard Business School, and they show this film about organizational behavior and how you change an organization to make it excellent.
00:46:23.460And you just know that this family unit, we're going to we're going to survive and we're going to thrive, but we're going to do this right.
00:46:30.660And I think if you just start doing that every day and make it part, you know, just doing reps like you do in football, make it part of the natural reflex of your family, your family unit.
00:46:38.480And you take leadership in the family, no matter if you're the husband, the wife, the kids, you take leadership in that we're going to be fine.
00:46:45.700I think, by the way, I feel actually very good.
00:46:48.880And one of the reasons I look at this younger generation, particularly men, don't want to downplay women, but the college educated women are so far gone, right, by and large, the left.
00:46:59.680But if you look at this young generation of men, 18 to 30, they're the most based generation I think we've ever had.
00:47:07.020And they're coming either with fathers or uncles or older brothers that volunteered for these endless wars and really fought every bit as great as as Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War One, World Two as volunteers in a thankless effort that you might add was pointless, too.
00:47:26.760And I think that that the strength of that coupled with this kind of base and the return to I think you're seeing a return to not just Christian values and reading the Bible, but an interest in the underpinnings of philosophy and theology for the West.
00:47:43.440They want to know more about Western culture.
00:47:45.220They want to know why modernity has has outlawed America, you know, basically traditional culture.
00:47:50.680This is you know, I consider myself a populist nationalist traditionalist.
00:47:53.980I don't call myself a conservative having for years because I think the conservatives are just they've just acted like pussies.
00:48:00.400They roll over all the time and you can't do that.
00:48:03.140You have to be as hard or harder than the left.
00:48:05.660And I think, Tucker, I really feel good.
00:48:08.820I think we have very dark days ahead of us, both globally with the CCP and others to get sucked into these wars.
00:48:14.920I think we have very dark days in front of us as a country, but I can start to see the sunlit uplands way, way, way, way, way off in the distance.
00:48:23.080And so I'm very enthusiastic of where we are.
00:48:25.900And I think my enthusiasm comes from this young generation who had everything against it, the propaganda in the schools, the the destruction of their culture, the outing of them for everything.
00:48:35.620If they didn't fall in line with the most radical things of sexuality or gender or climate change, all these things from the official source.
00:48:41.600They came through it to come through that with a set and apparatus is so radical trying to either other you or destroy you every day.
00:50:05.420Grace and Mo are going to have clips or take clips yourself.
00:50:07.620We would love to have you push this out, particularly clips of this to make it.
00:50:12.120It's already gone viral in many aspects, but we'd love to have you take your favorite clips and go ahead and send it out.
00:50:17.780Obviously, we're going to be drilling down on these themes in the days and weeks ahead, particularly the escalation of violence, going up the escalatory ladder of radical Democrats and people trying to destroy this country.
00:50:30.180Also, the fact that we've got to make sure that we keep our eye on the prize here about what is in the basic national security interests of the United States of America.
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