Stephen K. Bamb and Laura Loomer join host Steve Kamb to discuss the latest in the Trump administration, including the White House pardons for the disgraced ex-Deputy Attorney General Mike Jesowshek, Jim Jordan, and former FBI Director James Comey. They also discuss the election of Matt Donnelly as the next mayor of New York City, and whether or not it will be a "Jackie Robinson moment."
00:16:26.440We can push the CCP out of Venezuela, which reduces their stronghold in Central and South America as they try to expand and complete their Belt and Road Initiative.
00:16:38.100And it also is—it's better for our economy because estimates that I've seen, Steve, there's about 15,000 energy jobs here in the United States that are going to be killed off or already are being killed off with these sanctions and the flow of the oil from Venezuela to China as opposed to Venezuela to the United States.
00:17:00.680So, look, I know that my view—my opinion on this has been seen as quite controversial, and some people have accused me of trying to carry water for Maduro.
00:17:11.880But at the end of the day, Maria Machado doesn't have a military, right?
00:17:16.020Who's going to fight this regime-change war for her?
00:17:18.680It's going to be the United States of America.
00:17:20.780And that is completely contrary to President Trump's, you know, promise to not get us into any more wars.
00:17:26.340And I don't know if they're being honest with the president about how much oil is going to China right now.
00:17:31.460I mean, we're talking about a million barrels per day, Steve.
00:17:34.320That's a million barrels per day that are going to China, and they're just laughing their way to the bank.
00:17:39.180They're laughing their way to the bank as they continue to amass more resources—gold, rare earth minerals, and oil.
00:17:47.480Laura Loomer, where—social media, Twitter, and particularly your show, your show's on tonight with Ogles, comes on a couple times a week.
00:17:58.060Yeah, you can follow me on X at Laura Loomer and also on X at Loomer Unleashed.
00:18:04.100My show is called Loomer Unleashed, and it is live on Rumble every single Tuesday and Thursday evening at 9 p.m. Eastern.
00:18:11.140I have Congressman Andy Ogles on tonight to talk about the Islamification of our country, why the Trump administration has still not designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization,
00:18:21.080and whether or not we are actually going to see the denaturalization and deportation of Mamdami or if this is more performative bullshit.
00:18:29.820But I'll tell you, we're running out of time, Steve.
00:18:32.840We are losing our country to this Islamic takeover, and these Muslims, they love just throwing the opulence at President Trump because, obviously, President Trump loves being flattered.
00:18:44.260But at the end of the day, there's no Republican that is going to have the strength to stand up to these Muslim tyrants, okay, these jihadists, other than President Trump.
00:18:53.200And so if we allow for these people to blindside the administration and to woo all these officials to their, you know, their parties like they did this last week.
00:19:02.480I mean, you have the Secretary of Treasury, okay?
00:19:04.360You have Scott Besson, you have Sebastian Gorka, the Director of Counterterrorism at the Qatari Embassy, partying with these people.
00:20:02.060Where are the dead bodies of the American hostages that we were told that were going to be turned over weeks ago when this peace deal was finalized?
00:20:16.800So I think that we need to have a real conversation, Steve, in the GOP.
00:20:22.200And hopefully, you know, amid all this Israel derangement syndrome that we're seeing from many people on the right, you know, you don't see these people ever talk about Islam.
00:20:30.880You don't ever see these people talk about the threat of Islam, Steve.
00:20:33.460And they've got to stop being so obsessed with Israel and so obsessed with the Jews.
00:20:37.460You know, it's not the Israelis that are going to have another 9-11 here in our country.
00:21:46.520And now, how come Marco Rubio hasn't designated the Muslim Brotherhood?
00:21:50.860We're nine months into the administration.
00:21:52.640Steve, you told me yourself, you pushed so hard for the Muslim Brotherhood to be designated during the first term, and you said that they tried to bite your head off for it.
00:22:00.700You said that the one thing that you received the most pushback for was trying to designate the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:22:06.120You and I have had so many private conversations about this, Steve.
00:22:09.260You told me that the one thing that it was like a no-go zone was the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:22:13.440So I just want to know what the hell is going on.
00:22:17.140Well, by the way, you're going to have to go after Wall Street.
00:22:20.000You're going to have to go after the tech bros.
00:22:21.400You're going to have to go after all these guys.
00:23:24.820But you can't sit there and whitewash and say, oh, everybody's got to get off Israeli derangement syndrome.
00:23:31.420We don't have—I don't have derangement syndrome against Israel.
00:23:33.820No, I didn't say that people can't be critical of Israel.
00:23:35.620But I just—I don't ever see any of the people that focus all of their efforts on criticizing Israel.
00:23:41.220I wish that they would criticize Qatar as well.
00:23:44.080My point is, is that if you're going to criticize Israeli influence in American politics, talk about the Qatari lobby.
00:23:49.560Because the Qatari lobby has substantially way more influence on our American politics, Steve.
00:23:54.760And they spend way more money, they own way more real estate, and they're giving way more political favors to American politicians than the Israelis.
00:24:03.040The Qatari's have the type of money that people in Korea and that Jews have.
00:24:08.360I don't know if they have more influence, but I will tell you, they've come from a place that they were almost overthrown by UAE and Saudi Arabia in June of 17,
00:24:18.940after we had our first—that first big conference in Riyadh, and they refused to sign the terrorist financing memorandum.
00:24:47.680And I don't think a lot of people understand this because they think, oh, Muslim Brotherhood.
00:24:50.860A lot of people just don't understand what the Muslim Brotherhood is.
00:24:53.480How is it that the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia have enough sense to designate the Muslim Brotherhood, but our own country doesn't?
00:25:00.240What does that say about our country when we have all these trade deals with Saudi Arabia and the UAE and Qatar?
00:25:05.060The president just had this magnificent trip to the Middle East in May, securing all these deals.
00:25:10.320You know, if I worked for President Trump and I was one of his official advisors, right, I would have said,
00:25:14.340hey, why don't we try to get UAE and Saudi Arabia to force the hand of Qatar and we sign the designation of the Muslim Brotherhood while we're in Saudi Arabia?
00:25:24.340Do you know what a power move that would have been if the president of the United States would have designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization while he was sitting next to MBS?
00:25:35.700No, by the way, they've designated CARE, a terrorist or associated with terrorist organization and the Muslim Brotherhood because the Muslim Brotherhood has been trying to overthrow those monarchies forever.
00:25:45.740Anyway, Laura, real quickly, where do people go tonight to see you and Andy Ogles?
00:26:22.940We got Tom Fitton to give me some commentary on this FBI disclosure.
00:26:27.480And also, believe it or not, our own beloved Dr. Stephen Hatfield, the paragon of truth starting in the first days of the pandemic, was fire today over at Health and Human Services.
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00:31:46.120Tom, today we had a 100-page report from Comer at Oversight on this auto pen, which is really one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen, dwarfs Watergate.
00:31:54.960And then Jim Jordan releasing these documents from the FBI on Arctic frost that are really jaw-dropping the lawlessness of the FBI and the Justice Department and the White House under Biden regime.
00:32:08.880Plus, Cleta Mitchell came on and said, hey, all of the prosecutions at the state level were all coordinated by the White House, by DOJ, and by the FBI.
00:32:20.260Well, of course, working with the Pelosi gang over in the Congress as well on their January 6th jihad.
00:32:26.940On the pardons, they're null and void.
00:32:31.400The committee report confirms, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that no one really knew how the pardons emerged, and there was really no authorization that anyone can reliably point to for the pardons, not even an oral authorization.
00:32:50.100You know, one of the misconceptions is they need to be signed.
00:32:53.320They don't necessarily need to be signed, but they do need to be authorized, and there's really no evidence that Biden authorized many of these pardons.
00:33:02.760And on top of that, when you look at the pardons themselves, they're deficient.
00:33:07.540They don't state crimes in large measure.
00:33:10.240They go back years, and you can't have a pardon that doesn't delineate a crime.
00:33:18.740And what the Justice Department should have done six months ago, eight months ago, was investigate and prosecute as if these pardons didn't exist.
00:33:31.480Let the defendants raise them as defences.
00:33:34.400And even if they're upheld by the courts, one might argue that the prosecution can go forward, and the only thing that's prevented is imprisonment or fines or punishment.
00:33:44.480So they can go up to being found guilty in the least.
00:34:12.520When you look at the scale of what Comer's had and you look at the scale of what's in the FBI, doesn't this reinforce what we talked about on Saturday that the Justice Department is overwhelmed right now and that we actually need a special prosecutor that reports directly to the office of the president or we're never going to get these done in time?
00:34:37.500Because now if you look at the Arctic Frost allegations, if you couple that with the auto pen and both the executive orders, and I don't even know the executive order is going to have so many lawsuits around them.
00:34:50.460If we don't designate a special counsel and that special counsel doesn't report directly, directly to the White House, are we ever going to get this done?
00:35:00.160Are the criminal referrals ever going to get executed upon?
00:35:02.880I think some might, but it won't be sufficient.
00:35:08.060There's always something that's going to get done, right?
00:35:37.420When you look at the documents Jordan released, it shows that the FBI should be dismantled.
00:35:44.760It shows that the Justice Department should have its wings clipped and they can't be trusted to prosecute a jaywalking ticket, let alone politically sensitive matters.
00:35:53.800And it's not a question of who's running it.
00:35:56.340It's institutionally they are irredeemably corrupted.
00:36:00.880They were targeting dozens of Americans for engaging in First Amendment protected activity.
00:36:51.200That does not jive with my experience with the way these operations run.
00:36:57.300By the way, you're 100% right about the FBI.
00:36:59.820If this is the nail in the coffin, I mean, Cash and Bongino, it's impossible for them to reform this because it's too out of control.
00:37:07.380It ought to be cut in half immediately, bottom blown.
00:37:09.940What would be your recommendation, Tom, to the president?
00:37:11.960I would get a special counsel who can hire unconflicted federal law enforcement or bring in private folks.
00:37:23.640There's no reason private entities can't help or private individuals can't help engage in these prosecutions and be deputized effectively by a special prosecutor working directly for the president.
00:37:35.300And to a degree, there's support needed from Attorney General Bondi.
00:37:40.080She can provide counsel as to the appropriateness of some investigations and such.
00:37:44.620But the president has the ability and the right, and I think he should exercise it, to prosecute, direct the investigation.
00:38:06.200This has to – the special counsel, special prosecutor has to report to the office of the president, and President Trump is the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer.
00:38:15.840He ought to take charge here on getting to the bottom of the scandal.
00:38:19.340Can you interview the FBI agents who are doing this – can the FBI interview the FBI agents who are doing this?
00:38:25.380Is the Justice Department going to investigate and investigate the Justice Department attorneys who are still on staff, who are involved in this?
00:41:28.140Unfortunately, we're not able to do it.
00:41:29.680And then that ultimately led to my dismissal.
00:41:33.680And I know that Secretary Kennedy told Dr. Hatfield that he did a tremendous job on your show and wanted to do more media.
00:41:41.360But unfortunately, I don't think I've seen Dr. Hatfield do a show since he did your show and I think Emerald's show maybe the day after.
00:41:48.260But since then, I haven't seen anything, including after the autism report, which a robust defense was needed, especially about Tylenol and autism.
00:41:56.040So, you know, we're seeing Secretary being very ill-served by his senior leadership, Matt Buckham.
00:42:02.720And I don't know exactly the circumstance.
00:42:05.600I mean, Dr. Hatfield can explain the circumstances surrounding his dismissal.
00:42:08.560But it's extremely troubling to me that the people that are most aggressively driving the Secretary's agenda and trying to make the real substantive structural reforms are the ones being dismissed at HHS.
00:42:19.760So what does that say for the future of HHS and for Maha?
00:42:22.420I don't know, but we're ringing the alarm bells.
00:42:24.960And that's why we're here on your show today.
00:42:26.180So, Dr. Hatfield, you were our – I reached out to you in the first days when we shifted War Room impeachment.
00:42:36.220We took an hour and started, I think, January 20th and called it War Room Pandemic, which became the show for the next, I think, year and a half.
00:42:44.020You were our first guest because I reached – I called around and said, who's the expert?
00:45:34.860I'm involved or was involved in two PCCs, three PCCs at the White House, assisting the Commission Health, Public Health Service at designing some experiments pertaining to 5G radiation from cell phones.
00:45:56.900Strengthening the medical reserve corps in fulfillment of President Trump's desire to make local authorities resilient and to get some sort of pandemic response plan back in this country.
00:48:25.120I was quite prepared to go out there and explain very carefully to all Americans why this was necessary to be done.
00:48:32.440And then the constant deluge, the thing about the Tylenol, the preponderance of evidence that does really suggest that it's playing a factor, one of many factors in autism, one of many.
00:48:51.980The childhood vaccination schedule is playing a huge factor.
00:49:56.780We're going to have you back on and drill down much deeper on this story because Make America Healthy Again is a basically foundational element of the coalition that we have that can continue to win and continue to have President Trump's back.