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In this episode, Professor Frank Ferreide joins me in the War Room to talk about the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Prime Minister Victor Orban, and his trip to DC with Prime Minister Donald Trump to meet with President Trump.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval
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on these people here's what i got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people
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have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
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good evening harnwell here at the helm on steve bannon's war room got two very important guests
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for you this evening first one bearing in mind that the war room is fundamentally a show
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geared at the rank and file is probably someone i'm going to say it like this probably the most
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important person speaking to an american audience here the most important person you've probably
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never heard of but here's what i want you to do i want to write down the name and then you're going
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to discover you see this person absolutely everywhere and the organization that he runs
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same thing might not have heard of it write it down and you will see everywhere and here's the thing
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everybody who's involved on the right with opinion formation who goes to conferences goes to
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speaking events will know this organization um i've spoken at a couple of events in in hungary
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myself by the european conservative my guest is professor frank ferreide and his organization
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is the matthias corvinus collegium professor ferreide great honor to get you on the show we've been
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trying for some time uh and folks to give you an indication of just how important this guy is
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why don't you tell us professor ferreide what you're doing in dc right now well i'm here in dc with
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the delegation of prime minister victor orban who's having a summit meeting with president trump
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and i think this relationship is very very important because it gives conservatism a very
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powerful international boost i think that these two guys uh complement each other they you know victor
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the prime minister of hungary is the bad boy of europe and president trump is very similar to him
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and some people have in fact steve bannon has called uh orban trump before trump in a sense that
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they all have very similar ideas they all have a capacity to move the the people they're very
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charismatic and in a sense these are two of the guys that we really need if you're going to change
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the world for the better if you're going to undermine this very powerful globalist culture
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that dominates the the world in in all of its powerful institutions that's absolutely correct
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um and obviously there is uh i mean by the way i'll just say that you are the um emeritus professor
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of sociology at the university of kent at canterbury in in england um and england is often referred to
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as having that special relationship with the united states and historically that's certainly true
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but you know what i would make the the argument that because of the personal charisma and loyalty
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that victor orban showed to donald trump even when donald trump um was out of power i would make the
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argument that in europe it's actually hungry now that deserves that title of having the special
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relationship um and i think you're going to increasingly see and i say this to to our
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american audience who loves victor orban by the way and maga loves victor orban i would make this
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argument that increasingly you are going to see now that reality of the situation become ever more
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clear one of the reasons i think um i do want to talk to you about the the delegation and and some of
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the objectives that uh that the that uh the prime minister is is seeking to promote in in the next
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couple of days but i think it's a sign of the mcc's importance here that you're doing something at the
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behest of victor orban and this is why i say folks that this is an incredibly important organization
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that you might not have heard about it it's doing something and it has been charged with doing
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something by the prime minister and that i can't see any other leader in the world on the right doing
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and that's investing directly in an organization to promote the principles that will continue and
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endure and not only amongst in uh opinion formers today but crucially in the next generation and the
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formation of the the next generation and it's absolutely um incredible and i think he's sort of
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giving you uh the prime minister has given the mcc huge amount of support political support and
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obviously financial support as well and that's another reason why folks you're going to see that
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hungary is increasingly important pushing above its weight as a relatively small eu country but
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culturally massively massively um important professor faredi let me ask you this but about the delegation
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there are a number of things that are very close here to maga's heart that i know
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the prime minister is going to raise with president trump example will obviously be ukraine um i think
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it's fair to say that prime minister orban has probably had amongst all the eu countries the most sane
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and responsible position with regards to russia since the start of this war three and a half years ago
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um but the administration the u.s administration is going to try as far as i can tell to put a bit of
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pressure has been doing already on on on the hungarian prime minister to open himself towards ukrainian
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accession into the european union as part of the eventual um peace talk negotiations i have to say
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i am incredibly against ukraine joining the eu can you tell us a little bit i know there's also
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energy implications uh of interest to to the prime minister but can you tell us that these these two
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things um how confident are you going are you that the prime minister will be able to hold the line
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in negotiations with the president over ukrainian accession to the eu and then tell us a bit about the
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the the the the liquid natural gas and the whole debate uh seeking exemptions from imposed by the
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us on the importation into the the west from russian oil russian gas well everything that uh we're
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interested in is underwritten by a desire to end the war i think the uh government in hungary is 120
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committed to peace in the area uh because they realize the longer that the war continues the more
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it can spread the more it destabilizes europe and the more it can have very direct destructive global
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implications so that's the bottom line now in addition to that there is the fact that hungary alone
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within the european union has come out quite often against the attempt to bring ukraine into the european
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union hungary believes that that would be a corrosive development it would undermine the european union
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by bringing in a country that essentially is not in a position to play the role of a democratic nation
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state at this particular stage in time we believe that at the moment ukraine is a little bit corrupt a
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little bit uh internally unfit uh to play that kind of a role but more importantly should ukraine join the
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european union it would destabilize the relation between ukraine and russia forever it would basically
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mean that the war will never stop you could have ceasefires but russia will never tolerate ukraine
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becoming uh potentially an enemy a permanent enemy at its gate and hungary has realized this which is why
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we've called for different kind of solutions so that's the first thing i think that there is absolutely
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no way that the prime minister will ever go back on this particular position it's a it's a position of
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principle in the sense that we want to make sure that peace uh does prevail eventually and for that to
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prevail we have to ensure that the european union doesn't destabilize the situation by bringing ukraine
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in the second problem or issue that will be discussed is the fact that hungary a landlocked small
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country is totally dependent upon russian energy and that's been the case for a very very long time
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we've always relied on it we have no other source so we haven't got any access to a severe landlocked
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nation and therefore for hungary to basically stop receiving energy from russia would have a very
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catastrophic economic consequence i think for that reason the the prime minister has asked or is or is
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discussing with president trump about being uh given i suppose a free pass from joining in the sanctions
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because uh for hungary uh if this terminates if this this deal terminates it would have a major upheaval
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in terms of its economic consequences in addition to that there is an argument that all right
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hungary or should get liquid gas uh from from the united states and other sources and there's nothing
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wrong with liquid gas but it just so happens that if hungary was forced into a situation where it
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relied on liquid gas basically the cost of energy would more than double and you can imagine what
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that would mean to ordinary people if their way of life you know sort of was so fundamentally
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transformed by a very very expensive energy and i think there's going to be discussion about that
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as well as to how to minimize it but i think probably and this is a little bit intangible one of the most
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important things that will be happening in this discussion is an attempt to actually forge a
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relationship at a different level to cultivate this relationship because i think the hungarian delegation
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believes that the future of western civilization i hate to use that word it sounds very big but that's
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really what we're talking about the future of western civilization at the moment pivots around
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this relationship that's being forged between the prime minister and and president trump and i think
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a lot of european conservatives are entirely on board with this thing and i know that when i left brussels
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they were all cheering on the delegation and hoping that you know whether you're french or italian or
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germany if you're a conservative genuine conservative a patriot you really want to make sure that this
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summit actually um leads somewhere it kind of represents a very important step into the future
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so much to break down there but let's start off with the closing part and work backwards
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regarding this relationship there are there are obviously two groups in the european parliament um
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and you actually see the patriot the patriot contingent in the european parliament really divided into two
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and due to his expertise prime minister victor orban actually sort of nudged and negotiated his
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faction as the larger of the two so he has the the page patriots for europe which which is as i say
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the larger of the two groups and then the other one the smaller one now which is that the georgia
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maloney faction um both patriotic groups but um very different views i think this is probably the litmus test
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it's the relationship to nato generally in the relationship to ukraine in particular between these two
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groups when you're saying because you're based in blussels when you're saying that there are a lot of
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people there are a lot of conservatives just lost you're wishing you will can you hear me now i can
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hear yeah yeah can you can you hear me yes um so i was talking i was talking about these two uh factions
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in the european parliament as the patriot contingent divided by two into two when you between your between
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the patriots for europe and and the the the um the the european conservatives and the ecr group which
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which which is maloney's um faction the difference between these two groups is fundamentally nato and
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the relationship um with with with regards to ukraine when you say professor faredi that and a lot of
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people in brussels where you're based who are um cheering you on tell me something about this dynamic
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between these two groupings in the european parliament uh and how the personal relationship
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between president trump and prime minister orban is and the sort of outer dynamics and consequences
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of that for these two groupings in brussels i think that the closer the relationship becomes the more
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all sections of the conservative family in europe will have to take note i think it's very important
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for them i think it's a tragedy that there's this division between the european conservative uh and
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reform group the ecr and and the patriots because at the end of the day someone like georgia maloney
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and someone like victor orban have a lot in common and they're i know that on a person-to-person basis
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they're very good friends they get along with each other but i think what has happened is that sections of
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the uh ecr have become very pragmatic a little bit opportunistic and basically they fear that if they
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stick their neck out in the way that the hungarians have they're going to have a big problem with the
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banks with the markets with the european union commission who are going to put a lot of economic
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pressure upon them to fall in line and for that reason many of them although they privately understand
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what what what hungarians are doing nevertheless are reluctant to kind of join in as it happens
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neither side is against nato as such but the patriot group tends to believe that if you're going to
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defend your your nation you need to have a national solution to that i think as a sovereignist
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you believe in a sovereign defense force uh ultimately you know to be honest if i'm going to
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um worry about who's going to defend my family i'm going to rely upon my neighbors i'm going to rely
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upon people that come from my own society who have got a direct stake you know i know maybe americans
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would help us but why should an american soldier put his uh life on the line you know for me uh when
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when in fact there is very little you know that he understands about my predicament and therefore
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although alliances are really very very important in the end we need to have national solutions to the
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problem of defense and that's really what the patriot group really understand that being a
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patriot means being a patriot rather than a globalist when it comes to uh defense and and all these
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matters i couldn't agree with you more uh professor do hold on and 30 seconds i'm going to come back
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to you and i want to ask you a bit about the pressures that the european commission commission have
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been putting uh historically over the last few years on on hungary in order to to take the the brussels
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line um and i think actually the prime minister's resilience has been nothing short of absolutely
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heroic and a model to be imitated that will drill down on that in 60 seconds but first when inflation
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frank ferrady chief executive of the matthias corvinus collagium in brussels professor ferrady um i don't
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know how much our american audience will be drilling down on the happenings within the european union but
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the the eu has been launching a number of legal challenges um against hungary saying that that the
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prime minister is corrupting corrupting and politicizing the judiciary and has even put on the line
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uh eu financing towards hungary of substantial billions of dollars the irony here is this is
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actually hungary's own money which it pays into in quota to the eu and then the eu holds it back
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and effectively blackmails uh independent uh eu member states to follow the line same dynamic by the
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way folks that the federal government has done with the states levels for many years in the united
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states you'll be familiar with the concept professor tell me a bit because you mentioned um uh how
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prime minister orban has basically been standing by himself against the ukrainian accession to the eu
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tell me a bit about the pressure that the prime minister has been put under not only by ursula von
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de laon but by the commission historically and tell us something about the the actual politicization
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that the eu is implementing on hungary right now because i don't think americans are aware of this
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and they need to in order to give the prime minister full moral support that he needs
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well if you can imagine the european commission which is an unelected body uh in charge of the
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european union has essentially declared war upon not just the prime minister but hungarian society
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and the main form that this war takes is what's called lawfare it's basically uses the european
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courts and there's several european courts the european court of human rights and others
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as a vehicle to basically try to criminalize what hungarians are doing so just to give you an example
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the european court of human rights has decided that for some reason hungarian government and hungarian
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judiciary does not meet its criteria of the rule of law and it's basically said that until hungary falls
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in line the judiciary falls in line with what brussels wants to see it will withhold you know essentially
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millions and millions and millions of euros from hungarian society and it's done that already because
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basically what they want to do is to interfere within the domestic politics of hungary so they developed
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the concept which is what i call european union conditionality and that conditionality can take
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many forms one conditionality is that the only way you're going to get money the money that actually
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belongs to you is if for example you accept their definition of gender ideology it's called gender
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ideology so basically it means that if a hungarian school or university wants to receive some funds from
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brussels they got a guarantee that they recognize trans ideology they recognize lgbtq rights and they
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will go on and promote it if you don't promote lgbtq ideology then they can withhold the money from you
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and they've done that in a number of different different respects and what they are really doing
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in this is they're trying to directly influence domestic politics and and the values that hungarians live by
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by forcing hungarians to to shift and change them and to accept their woke ideology they also by the
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way are using the loads of these ngo lobbyist organizations as a vehicle to undermine so for
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example there's going to be a general election in in hungary in april next year and the european
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commission is totally committed towards destabilizing the government it's completely committed towards
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financing the opposition uh and and promoting dissidents within hungary itself and and and the irony is
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that the commission often complains about russian intervention in domestic politics within europe
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but it has got no inhibitions about interfering in the uh in the internal affairs of nations that it it
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despises it dislikes so we have a very interesting development it it's a bit like if you can if you're an
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american imagine what it was last before the american revolution when the british tried to influence
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developments within america itself and they would try to influence taxation and other
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other policies within america and naturally the americans rebelled and naturally america became
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independent by rejecting this well i see brussels as this colonial project a federalist colonial project
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that tries to force countries particularly central east european countries that have strong conservative
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values tries to make sure that these uh nations become the the mirror image of of of the more woke
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scandinavian northern european societies and give up their commitment to religion give up their commitment
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to conservatism the traditional way of life and they're doing this primarily by insisting that
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the courts adopt new laws that we adopt their values it's really all about the culture wars i mean
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that's really what we're talking about uh in the struggle between the eu and and hungary
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you mentioned culture wars which i know we've only got a couple of minutes left now um three or so
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minutes left you mentioned the culture wars that sparks a question that i do really want to ask you
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while i have this opportunity however i just want to summarize what you're just saying or add to what
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what you've just been saying i want i want our audience here to understand just how not isolated
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in in a negative sense how how little political support victor orban has had uh in order to defend
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the integrity of hungary as a nation as a people as an identity within the wider oppression of the
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european union especially with regards to ukraine accession and the prime minister has faced down all of
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these other european leaders uh are far more politically militarily economically more important
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countries than hungary he's faced them all down so what have they done now in order to try and
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brabeat him they've gone to to someone and and and they ran to someone in order to persuade him to to
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put a bit of pressure on and that person is donald trump what i would actually like to see out of this
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summit in in dc today it's it's actually the reverse i would actually like to see prime minister orban
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persuading president trump to to go back to brussels speak to ursula von de laia and all the rest of them
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and tell them what his position is going to be that they have to um that they have to accommodate
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not putting pressure on someone like victor orban look i could go on but we've got sort of as i say two minutes left and i do
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because you are a thinker and let's say a philosopher um even as a sociologist in your own
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right there is this idea that you've been pushing about can you synthesize it in two minutes perhaps
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come back on the show at another time you've basically said seeing as you were talking about
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culture wars but in a separate context that much of what passes for culture wars today don't really
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have anything to do with the present but they're their debates and and sort of tensions over the past
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could you just give me like 90 seconds to expand on what this is so what i argue is that we think of
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culture wars as about being gender ideology and lgbtq and black lives matter and it is about that but
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ultimately it's about society's relation to its past because what these people who hate our way of
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life are trying to do is to render our past toxic they're basically saying that everything that happened
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in the united states or in britain in the 1920th century is horrible we are horrible people we
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enslave people we exploit people and there's nothing redeeming about our way of life this is really
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important because they what they're doing is they're trying to educate the younger generations schools and
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universities to regard their own society with hostility to regard their own society as really entirely
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negative and if they can capture it they can continue this with our young then basically what
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they've done is they've enslaved their minds and made them their own vehicles for promoting their
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that particular world view and in the way that i look at it is that in europe in particular but i
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also think in the united states we now lost three generations of young people to the culture warriors who
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dominate our schools and universities and we need to wake up and realize that the real struggle
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is for the minds of the young rather than anything else
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professor fredi we'll close it there i do hope you'll come back on the show perhaps um in the
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next couple of weeks and tell us how the delegation the prime the prime minister's hungarian delegation
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to dc has gone i very much hope that you're successful i know you have an article out in the european
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conservative published a few hours ago about this visit uh where do people go on social media generally to
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keep up with what you're doing your output and also just an institution i cannot compliment more
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highly the matthias covenus collegium where do people go to know more about you well i think there
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there is first of all my own personal soft spec which is called roots and wings with frank ready
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and uh that i think is where i i usually express my my latest news we also have um
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youtube channel uh both mine and also mc brossett which i think that you might find interesting and do
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follow our twitter accounts we'll get those social media out later professor fredi thank you so much
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welcome back my next guest was the the guy who just saw speaking there peter bistron member of
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the european parliament peter thanks for coming back on the show you last came on the show when
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steve was at um was at the danbury spa um if if memory serves me correct me um thanks for coming
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back you're live obviously at the studios thank you to thank you to invite me and it's a great pleasure
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and honor to be here now war room again of course i think you're there live at the the studios in the
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in the european parliament in brussels now why did we start with that video clip fairly
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nondescript there you are speaking in germany why were why did we throw that up uh as a german
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um political speech what was it about that did folks did you see anything in that
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folks did you notice anything though peter bistron apparently according to the courts in germany
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i didn't see it you just seen you saw exactly the same footage that i've just seen peter bistron was
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far received a fine of 11 000 euros like 13 000 for that speech why because according to the courts he
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gave a nazi salute i didn't see it we can call it again um peter why don't you tell us the background
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and and what happened and say what really is behind this court judgment uh look ben uh this is a funny
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story because nobody saw the nazi salute at this uh uh occasion when i was speaking it was in munich it
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was a corona time you know so i i was just talking about uh um the general policy and and then the moment
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when i said uh we are the only democratic party in germany we are the true democrats i somehow wave with
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with the hand and nobody noticed anything uh um but later some some uh antifa people uh made the freeze
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of the video and and one moment i have my my arm uh uh higher than my shoulder and they said that this is
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a nazi salute he was doing a nazi salute and and they tried to find me and so this that was the
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occasion i have to correct you i didn't got the fine for this but uh when this happened i defend myself
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showing pictures of all uh other politicians like angela merkel and martin schultz and even
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michelle obama and and i showed all those pictures and i said you listen uh you can do a picture of
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anybody uh on the world if if you make the freeze in the right moment it looks like a nazi salute but
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it isn't you know and i was successful uh and the court said yes that's true especially by a picture
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of angela merkel and they said yes this is obvious uh that it looks like a nazi salute but it is not the
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nazi salute because this is angela american and obviously she is just weaving and i i won it but then
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and two years later i published a collage uh a meme on on on eggs which included exactly the picture of
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angela merkel weaving and that time uh the court said oh peter bison is showing that this is a nazi
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salute now and they find me 11 000 euro 230 uh for this that was the fine okay so we've got the um
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we've got some of the illustrations here this is what you tweeted out yeah um thank you very much
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denver the pictures you see angela merkel you see uh olav schultz the chancellor martin schultz
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president of european parliament and on the right side this is the former president of germany and his
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wife uh so all those uh politicians uh very well known uh and all looking like doing nazi salute um and i
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put this in a collage and the court said what this is illegal this is this is a nazi salute now and
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and they find me okay so let me get this right let me get this right so you gave that salute excuse me
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you gave that hand gesticulation in your speech which everyone said it was a nazi salute right you
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you went to court you won that they said there's no nazi salute there because yeah you showed them the
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photos of similar politicians you won that case you won that case so then two years later the whole
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debate kicked up again and you tweeted out on social media angela merkel and martin um schultz and
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olaf schultz not in the the former president of the the german republic all making the same wave
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to the these are the these are thousand percent mainstream center center ground politicians folks right
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they they none of these people were ever dragged in angela merkel was never dragged into court for
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giving the nazi salute you put out on social media her doing that that that wave and the courts have
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said in order to suppress you and to fine you they said the here here this is a nazi salute it's angela
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merkel doing a nazi salute and therefore let's fine peter bystrom is that right is that a correct analysis
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instead instead instead of saying instead of saying hang on we better we better drag into court
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angela merkel and martin schultz and olaf schultz and the german the president of the german republic
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for doing nazi salutes nothing they find you for publishing these waves as nazi salutes is that correct
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more than this this is this is absolutely correct and but this is more funny because this was like
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peter bryston is way weaving you know oh this is a nazi salute then i defended myself with the picture
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of angela merkel and they said okay angela merkel weaving it's not a nazi salute and then when i used
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the picture of angela merkel the court explicitly said now brystron is using the picture of angela merkel
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now it's a nazi salute and i was fined 11 000 euro for that and uh you know the incredible thing to
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make it more and more funny during the process with me because it was public you know and it was the same
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time the picture of angela merkel was online in the media um around 1 000 people wrote to uh to the
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prosecutor and they all wrote like you are prosecuting peter bison now you should prosecute also angela
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america because look she's doing also nazi salute to prosecute her and the um um um authorities said
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one thousand time they said no no no no no we are not going to prosecute angela merkel because this
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is no nazi salute so angela merkel doing uh weaving no nazi salute peter bison using the picture of
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angela merkel it's a nazi salute 11 000 euro fine that's the case so it becomes
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so a wave becomes a nazi salute when peter bison puts it on social media to be to be specific uh to
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be correct uh it become a nazi salute immediately after i was i was elected uh to our federal list
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as a candidate for the european parliament number two so so they just looked for something negative uh to
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be to be able to spread it within the media during the campaign for the european parliament it was a
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very clear blackmailing action against uh as our top candidates on this list and just to be clear here
00:39:29.180
the the real point behind this is that you know during i think the the pandemic the covid crisis the afd was
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one of the the principal parties against the the the the the lockdowns and forced vaccines um which
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the german state obviously sort of imposed on all of its citizens as they did pretty much everywhere
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else around the world so the context here here's the courts but and you were saying when you gave
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that wave you were actually sort of saying that you guys weren't the afd isn't the aren't the nazis
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right so here's the irony of the situation you are democratically elected politicians you are a
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democratically elected member of the european parliament the courts are coming down punishing
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you they're using the state power to punish dissent in the name of being anti-fascist and anti-nazi
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right and they're punishing the only political party in germany that was against the you know what one
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might reasonably call the the fascist regime of the anti-anti-pandemic era that's pretty ironic i would
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suggest yeah yeah ben you're saying it you know and this was exactly what was uh what i was talking
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about at this demonstration i i was criticizing the measurement of the government that time i was
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uh claiming uh that they are anti-constitutional you know they were and uh in this context i said and
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we are the afd we are the only party fighting against this and we are the only democratic party and
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it remains still today uh we are the truly democratic party and uh the what what the government is uh using
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against us and against um the opposition as whole is systematically blackmail us as a far right as
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extremists you know fascists and so on you know with everything from from uh the us because trump trump
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was treated by the globalists the same way so it's not only about me uh we have other cases and i would
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i would specifically uh point out uh the case of uh director um of of um deutschland curry which is a very
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well-known online newspaper david bendels and they published a meme with the picture of the uh interior minister
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and uh the interior minister was holding a piece of paper in her hands saying i hate the freedom of speech
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which you may find funny or not but i mean this is uh nothing uh which you wasn't be uh uh what would
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be prohibited in germany you can of course criticize uh and the interior minister in this way it's very
00:42:24.780
soft way i think but uh they put him into court and this editor-in-chief of a newspaper got seven
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month sentence for publishing this meme and this is incredible peter stand by um i'm going to do a
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couple of ad reads for our sponsors of the show when we come back in 45 seconds we actually have the
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photos uh of the of the case um that you're referring to the seven month sentence and i'm also going to
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ask you know i'm also going to ask for the for the for the photo of the german politician who since
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birth doesn't have a right hand and yet he too absolutely armless um was uh was uh punished for
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giving um a nazi salute without an arm we'll have further details on that just give me 45 seconds
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just call 1-800-958-1000 that's 1-800-958-1000 and get your free consultation back to peter bystrom so um
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let's let's put these photos of the um of the guy with the um without the the right arm and you can
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just talk us through that which is absolutely astonishing um i've never heard anything um so
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ridiculous in all my life and in the the minutes that we have remaining on this show i'd like you just
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to tell our audience some of the personal persecutions that you yourself have undergone
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um this is i think when you were still a member of parliament in in the german national parliament
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how many times your home has been raided so tell us about the the german um the guy without the right
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arm uh and what what happened to him and you picked up a perfect example i hope you can show the pictures
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it's uh my colleague from the afd dr fichtner who was in the state parliament of baden-wittenberg
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and he has a no right arm and he was fined for uh different uh um accusations like he was doing the nazi
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salute uh uh in total he got 72 000 euro of fine and and i think three um um court decisions um one was
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for for this you know and this is really incredible he was again criticizing the measurements of the
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government you you name it you said those were uh fascist measurements they were all anti-constitutional
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he was criticizing it heavily during the corona time and he was fined in three different uh
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cases uh in total of more than 70 70 000 euro it's it's really incredible let's just let's just do that
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again right there's the photo folks you can see the photo so this is the this is the courts in germany
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protecting democracy protecting the constitution they're protecting the rule of law from the evil
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afd here is a guy that they gave a 72 000 dollar uh 72 000 euro fine for i guess that's around what
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a little less than eighty thousand dollars doesn't have a right arm hasn't had one since birth because
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of a birth defect and what the courts have said okay so if he he didn't have he doesn't have a right
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arm but if he did he'd clearly be doing a nazi salute um that it it sounds ridiculous it sounds
00:46:53.500
so surreal to say this um but that's where we are uh right now in germany today not only in germany
00:47:00.700
it's almost it's ridiculous it's equally ridiculous in the uk peter we had a lady who was uh prisoned
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imprisoned for 30 months because of a tweet that she sent out um this is what the regime around
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the world is doing in the name of defending uh democracy and the rule of law tell us a bit peter
00:47:20.060
whilst you're here we've only got three minutes left tell us a bit about what you have as a sitting
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member of parliament in the um the bundestag tell us about the what you personally have suffered in your own
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home oh well i have now personally um 27 uh home searchings the police write it uh not only my house
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but my offices uh in munich uh in berlin in the bundestag then uh the offices of of my lawyer of my uh
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tax uh tax advisor and at the end i would say everybody who who ever shake my hand uh got the
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home searching you know so we are now at the number 27 um this prosecution uh lasts more than
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one year still nothing found from the original accusations so this is this is just a pure terror you know
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uh uh uh political immunity was put away three times yeah and i need you to repeat this right as a sitting
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member of parliament right as a sitting member of parliament in berlin in the bundestag the lower
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and now in the european parliament yeah and also and also now as a member of the european parliament
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where you actually have a a a immunity right you have your home has been officially broken into by the
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police 27 times tell me are you intimidated by this do you ever think you know perhaps i should just
00:48:58.540
calm down perhaps i should just say what the what the regime wants me to send what one wants me to
00:49:03.740
say do you ever think you know is it worth it or does it actually make you go into the direction
00:49:09.020
i am going to fight these people until we win sure but everybody is saying the same uh to whom
00:49:16.780
happens something like this you know the people saying okay and now uh and now is the point to to
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strike back and and we will defend ourselves uh we are looking for allies uh and and trump is a very
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strong ally it's it's not only me you know there are thousands and thousands people in in germany that
00:49:36.140
they got home searching you know uh just just i i give you just some examples you know there was a woman
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posting something on facebook and not even she didn't produce the meme she was just just reposting it
00:49:51.900
and the major of berlin uh advised the police to to find out the true identity of this woman
00:50:03.100
it took some more than 400 hours of police work to find out who is behind this facebook account and then
00:50:13.100
they write in her home for nothing you know afterwards the court declared it illegal this home searching but
00:50:19.420
it it was even in my case i i already sued the state of bavaria for doing the home searchings i won the
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first case they said it was illegal but but the state is doing it again again uh in spite of knowing that
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this is illegal and they are not doing just the home searches uh imagine what the the leader of of um
00:50:41.740
demonstration the organizer of the demonstration against the corona michael balwek was put into prison for
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nine months the guy was sitting in prison nine months without the trial there was no trial they
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put him in prison for nine months uh and they said yeah this is he committed some tax fraud at the end
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they they uh he was released and it come out that the state is owing him money so the state should pay him
00:51:13.340
back taxes 200 000 euro in taxes back so he was completely innocent that that you're gonna have to
00:51:21.580
come back on peter um we need to dig into this more very very quickly where do people go on social media
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to keep up with your work oh i am everywhere on eggs uh on facebook i have a website peter bison
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so you just google peter bison you will find thousands of articles which are very negative
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about me but you can find also my accounts and you are highly welcome to comment okay let's be honest
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