Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 889： Downfall To Americans As AI Rises; Branches Of US Military Funding Chinese Labs

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:17.700 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:23.000 Here's what I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:27.260 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:28.760 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:30.680 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:33.300 It's going to happen.

00:00:34.580 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:37.960 MAGA Media.

00:00:39.300 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:44.720 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:48.520 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:54.700 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:58.760 Tuesday, 11 November, year of our Lord, 2025.

00:01:06.280 It is Veterans Day in 2025.

00:01:08.580 President went to Arlington National Cemetery earlier in the day, and they had a commemoration event.

00:01:16.160 Gave some speeches, laid a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown.

00:01:20.320 Kind of bitter cold in Washington today.

00:01:23.020 Trevor Comstock, you're with us.

00:01:24.600 I want to kick off the 6 o'clock hour.

00:01:27.080 Tomorrow, there's a Make America Healthy Again conference in Washington, D.C.

00:01:32.080 We're trying to get to make sure that we can cover some of the highlights of it.

00:01:35.580 There's a lot of controversy about are the tech bros, the Palantirs of the world, the Peter Thiels, are they trying to take over the Maha movement?

00:01:46.640 We will make sure we're on top of that to ensure that that does not happen.

00:01:52.200 Make America Healthy Again is too important to the nation and obviously to the MAGA movement.

00:01:59.020 This is the way we continue welding those two movements together is a way that we ensure a grassroots movement that can win national elections time and time and time again.

00:02:08.540 Trevor Comstock, what do you got for us today, sir?

00:02:12.220 Yeah, great to see you, Steve.

00:02:13.920 So I just want to take a moment to obviously honor and thank all of our veterans who served in the armed forces.

00:02:20.040 From all of us at Sacred Human, thank you for your courage, your sacrifice, and your bravery.

00:02:25.060 You know, what you've done is truly remarkable.

00:02:26.460 I can't speak enough on that.

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00:02:43.180 Excuse me.

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00:02:50.580 And, you know, we still get a ton of questions around it.

00:02:52.660 And I know a lot of people aren't familiar with the benefits of beef liver.

00:02:55.500 A lot of people don't know just how powerful it is when it comes to nutrition.

00:02:58.780 But I always like to make the analogy that it's essentially like nature's multivitamin and it has a ton of benefits.

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00:03:25.500 And then to take it a step further, it also contains a ton of other critical minerals that most people are deficient in.

00:03:32.200 So things like choline, K2, selenium, as well as copper.

00:03:36.400 So it's a pretty remarkable supplement in itself.

00:03:39.540 But I think what people love most about it is just the fact that it does tend to give people a natural energy boost,

00:03:45.900 which if you go through our reviews, people rave about.

00:03:48.500 And that's mainly just because your body can actually retain and absorb these nutrients as opposed to just flushing them out,

00:03:54.300 which is usually the case, unfortunately, with a lot of other synthetic vitamins or just general multivitamins on the market.

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00:04:14.900 I would say now that's our second most popular product.

00:04:17.800 The reviews have been great on that.

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00:04:24.960 but we launched our new creatine product, which is amazing for memory, cognitive function, as well as muscle growth.

00:04:30.160 So I really encourage people to check those three products out specifically.

00:04:34.520 And then, of course, if you ever have any questions, you can always just shoot us an email and we can get back to you.

00:04:39.080 Well, we've got a second here.

00:04:41.280 Grass-fed beef liver became, you know, you've got the Joe Rogan and you've got the Manosphere

00:04:45.180 and you've got this whole thing of reversing toxic masculinity and kind of men being men.

00:04:51.540 Grass-fed beef liver was a big part of that at the start of it.

00:04:55.580 And you got a little controversial with some of the original spokesmen.

00:04:59.260 Why is grass-fed beef liver so important?

00:05:02.860 Why was it taken up by the kind of, you know, the detoxification of masculinity movement?

00:05:09.080 Yeah, I don't know.

00:05:10.060 For some reason, I think red meat and people on the right go hand in hand in the Democratic view.

00:05:15.740 So a lot of people, I don't know why it is, but it seems to be a common theme.

00:05:20.720 I think we're carnivores.

00:05:23.220 I think it's because we're carnivores, right?

00:05:25.380 Exactly.

00:05:25.900 But the irony is red meat and beef liver are both, you know, they come from beef,

00:05:30.880 but it's the most nutritious food you can eat.

00:05:34.460 And a lot of people forget that.

00:05:36.500 So that's why the beef liver, you know, like I mentioned,

00:05:39.000 is just a ton of vitamins and nutrients that your body can actually absorb,

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00:05:47.420 Also, people come up to me all the time or text me if they know me or get to people who know me.

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00:05:56.660 the amount of information.

00:05:57.960 What is it about creatine?

00:05:59.160 Because so many people are coming and saying they want to be sharper.

00:06:01.660 They got a little brain fog.

00:06:02.840 You know, there's so many products out.

00:06:04.720 If you watch particularly cable news, this is probably the proliferation of product offerings.

00:06:12.940 And folks ask me all the time, you know, what are the good ones?

00:06:15.400 What are the bad ones?

00:06:16.060 I don't really take an opinion.

00:06:17.560 Why is Sacred Human, given how detailed you are when you roll out a product,

00:06:24.620 why was it creatine?

00:06:26.460 Why was creatine next?

00:06:27.840 And why is it important?

00:06:30.040 Yeah.

00:06:30.360 So the creatine is amazing because creatine in general is one of the most studied supplements in history.

00:06:36.460 You can Google it and fact check that.

00:06:39.360 But it has a ton of studies and scientific evidence behind it.

00:06:43.260 But what's amazing about the creatine is it actually naturally helps your brain as well as your muscles produce more energy.

00:06:49.300 Now, if you want to compare it to like a lot of other brain boosters that you see on the market,

00:06:55.160 this can sometimes be effective.

00:06:56.740 But creatine, again, it's just it's tried and true.

00:06:59.780 It's studied.

00:07:00.400 It's proven.

00:07:01.160 It's something that actually works for brain health and cognitive function as well as memory.

00:07:04.900 Something that I take every day, I feel super sharp on it.

00:07:07.800 And I know it's a recent product, so we don't have a ton of reviews on it.

00:07:10.740 But I know the people that have taken it, at least have purchased through us, have had amazing feedback with it.

00:07:16.180 And again, not all creatines are created equal.

00:07:18.340 We third-party lab test all of our products, especially our creatine.

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00:07:24.340 Whereas oftentimes some other creatines, they're either not third-party lab tests and they contain a ton of heavy metals

00:07:29.440 or they add a bunch of other fillers and unnecessary ingredients to it, which really dilutes the product.

00:07:34.320 So again, we just give you the natural raw ingredients.

00:07:38.040 Where do people go one more time?

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00:07:56.320 People can have access to you and ask you questions if they, you know, are uncertain about something.

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00:08:03.320 Yeah, you go to sacredhumanhealth.com.

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00:08:16.000 And like I said, if you have any questions, you can let us know and we'll get back to you as soon as we can.

00:08:19.940 Okay, Trevor Comstock, thank you, sir, kicking off the 6 o'clock hour.

00:08:25.960 Thanks.

00:08:28.820 There's a piece up on my getter, and if we can put it up, and if Grace – I think Mo is actually still at West Point working on some projects there.

00:08:36.880 Grace is riding shotgun with us today, if Grace and others can put it out.

00:08:41.860 But – and I'll break this down more tomorrow, but there's a – there's – and I keep going back to the core of the Trump economic program.

00:08:51.160 And that's more important than, hey, you know, particularly you saw this morning, and this is why it's so difficult for the mainstream media to correct itself and actually become something that people can get legitimate information from.

00:09:02.060 The Secretary of Treasury, Scott Besson, went on Morning Joe, and I would like you to compare Morning Joe's interview four or five-on-one versus what we did last week.

00:09:13.700 We asked probing questions, but we let the Secretary of Treasury explain himself and explain what the Trump program is, and particularly in this critical element of – because it is a massive undertaking that is underway.

00:09:28.520 And that is to rejuvenate and to bring back America to be a manufacturing superpower.

00:09:36.000 And there's been a lot of talk about it and a lot of talk about why the Rust Belt happened.

00:09:39.000 This is actually an action plan that has many aspects of it, but the two converging forces are a tax cut that rewarded capital investment.

00:09:48.380 And at the same time, a liberation day talking about not just tariffs and protectionism and economic nationalism, but really redoing the world's commercial relationships that at the centerpiece said, we are the best consumer market in the world.

00:10:05.700 And if you want to get access to this, number one, we would like you to manufacture here and create high-value-added jobs, which American citizens would get.

00:10:13.240 But if you're not going to do that, then you're going to pay some tolling fee to come into here.

00:10:19.180 That's now before the Supreme Court.

00:10:22.920 As this is going on about returning us to a manufactured superpower, you have the entire situation with artificial intelligence.

00:10:30.060 And now we are told by our betters that we're in an arms race, that this is a Cold War arms race, just like we had against the Soviets back starting really after World War II.

00:10:40.980 Let's say the 1940s, but by the 50s and 60s, it was turbocharged.

00:10:47.360 Artificial intelligence is supposed to be the end-all and be-all.

00:10:49.740 And now we have a piece in Zero Hedge, and I told you this day was coming.

00:10:55.580 That they're going to sit there and go, because this is a national security situation against the Chinese Communist Party, because lo and behold, we can't let them win the AI race, that we're going to need government support, just like the defense industry needs government support. 0.91

00:11:13.660 We need government support now to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars, not simply on the data centers, but to power the data centers.

00:11:21.100 And, of course, the leaders of the climate change movement, all these progressives in the tech area, the tech bros, the oligarchs, have now all got old-time religion.

00:11:30.860 And you can burn anything, do anything, just as long as they get power in Zero Hedge.

00:11:38.460 And you've seen this coming from the CFO of OpenAI and others in the industry that are sitting there talking about, well, you know, we can't lose this, so the government's not going to have to get involved, including now not just AI itself, not simply the data centers, but now the energy supply, the data centers.

00:11:59.440 No one has taken the time to walk the American people through this.

00:12:02.860 This has to stop.

00:12:04.680 It has to stop.

00:12:05.820 We kind of need a presentation on a, whoa, exactly what this is going, you don't want any regulation.

00:12:12.400 It takes more, you have more regulation on a nail salon on Capitol Hill than you have on the entire, you know, a technology that could end the world.

00:12:22.080 And that's according to the guys that run these frontier labs, not Stephen K. Bannon.

00:12:27.380 So now we're told that it's not simply the data centers, which are going to suck every ounce of water out of places like Arizona and Texas, but that the energy needs are so vast.

00:12:44.440 Listen, I've got to get Dave Walsh on here tomorrow.

00:12:47.600 Well, we still got Dave Walsh to explain this to us.

00:12:50.200 But it's going to take, according to, and it's a really great classic zero hedge piece where they're knitting together about five or different news sources to really make a really powerful article.

00:13:01.640 It's up on my getter right now, which getter is totally free, to hundreds of billions of dollars of just going to have to have government financing for it, that the AI companies don't have it, even though they have trillion dollar market caps.

00:13:14.940 So my only, my point here is that, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we got to stop the madness.

00:13:20.460 Number one, we got to figure out a regulatory apparatus.

00:13:23.660 Yes, I'm not, I'm a deconstructed administrative state, but I'm not a techno anarchist.

00:13:30.180 This has to have some sort of regulatory framework.

00:13:32.560 I'm sorry, AI industry.

00:13:35.640 You can cry and whine all you want.

00:13:37.840 Call us deceleration.

00:13:38.880 Call us what you want. 0.91

00:13:40.100 We do not care, particularly coming from you guys who we don't give a tinker's damn what you think about anything.

00:13:47.000 Number one, then we got to talk about the economics of it.

00:13:50.440 If the basic schmendricks are going to be the guarantor, and now they're talking about loans.

00:13:56.520 If you're either guarantor or a loan, that means U.S. taxpayer is in the deal.

00:14:01.800 If you're in the deal, then you've got to get a piece of the ups. 0.99

00:14:07.540 Right now, they're treating you like a fool. 0.99

00:14:11.080 They're just running around. 1.00

00:14:12.020 The David Sachsen world, just running around.

00:14:13.500 Elon Musk, running around, running around, going to create trades in here, billions there, hundreds of billions.

00:14:17.220 Hey, that's all fine.

00:14:19.040 But if you need a government backstop or if you need actual loans, if the capital requirements are so big that, you know, you can't sell equity,

00:14:29.260 and I guess you can't sell equity because you don't want dilution for yourself.

00:14:32.940 I'm just throwing this out there as a comment or a concept, I should say.

00:14:38.640 This is the discussion I used to have with Elon all the time.

00:14:41.060 He'd come in the West Wing.

00:14:42.640 He won all these, you know, guarantees on the budget.

00:14:44.720 I said, dude, you don't understand.

00:14:46.080 You're asking people that make $42,000 a year to essentially get all these tax breaks.

00:14:52.060 They're financing what the venture capitalists should finance.

00:14:55.580 So, therefore, you're going to own less of Tesla.

00:14:59.060 Right?

00:14:59.260 Their returns are going to take longer and maybe be lower, so they're going to own even more.

00:15:05.260 But that's the nature of venture capital in early stage private equity.

00:15:09.820 Capitalism, it's pretty straightforward.

00:15:11.480 It's not quantum mechanics. 0.97

00:15:13.640 But every venture capitalist, every private equity, every management team, of course you want the suckers to come in. 0.60

00:15:20.980 The people who don't want anything. 0.70

00:15:23.140 Right?

00:15:23.660 To socialize the risk.

00:15:25.040 Because, remember, I said all of this is about risk mitigation.

00:15:27.680 To socialize the risk.

00:15:29.420 And you guys keep all the upside.

00:15:30.840 That has to stop.

00:15:33.040 This is why young people don't believe in capitalism.

00:15:36.820 Because you know what?

00:15:38.200 That is not capitalism.

00:15:39.820 That's corporatism.

00:15:41.480 So what young people in this country, being logical, have looked around, they haven't actually seen capitalism at work.

00:15:49.320 They've seen crony capitalism or they've seen corporatism with the devil take the hindmost approach.

00:15:57.740 It has to stop.

00:15:59.860 And it has to stop about artificial intelligence.

00:16:03.880 If they're going to have, and we need somebody to sit there and go, hey, this is what the capital requirements are.

00:16:09.280 This is how it rolls out over the next couple years.

00:16:11.320 Understanding that, you know, every projection I've ever seen is never hits it exactly right.

00:16:16.640 Of course there's going to be perturbations, there's going to be changes, there's going to be sometimes misses, sometimes you're wrong by years.

00:16:22.800 But at least you have a general direction of the action you're taking today and how that, in your thinking, manifests itself in the future.

00:16:30.580 So we just thought, well, there's hundreds of billions of dollars now, not just for data centers, but to power the data centers.

00:16:37.300 And who's supposed to finance that?

00:16:41.780 You.

00:16:43.460 Do you own a warrant package?

00:16:45.160 Do you have an equity package?

00:16:46.720 Do you have a package of options?

00:16:47.980 Do you have anything?

00:16:48.620 No.

00:16:49.880 You know what you got? 0.94

00:16:50.860 You got the sweat on your frickin' brow.

00:16:54.480 And you're the full faith in credit.

00:16:56.700 Always remember that you, this audience, these great patriots that have delivered victory after victory against all odds.

00:17:04.540 You got the sweat on your brow and the tax man all over you to pay your taxes.

00:17:12.860 And those taxes now to go to either government guarantees or outright loans to these guys, hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:17:18.880 Well, how did that happen?

00:17:21.560 And, of course, now they're saying for guys that didn't, the same crowd in Silicon Valley that didn't want to build a nuclear power plant and shut them all down in California,

00:17:31.040 now they want to have a little nuclear reactor, just bolt it up there in Scarsborough.

00:17:36.220 Let's build a data center out in El Paso, Texas, and let's just bolt a little nuclear reactor. 0.97

00:17:42.140 What do we do with the waste?

00:17:42.920 I don't know.

00:17:43.240 We'll figure that out.

00:17:45.620 No, no.

00:17:46.500 This has got to be thought through, and people have to have buy-in.

00:17:50.140 This is outrageous.

00:17:52.260 And they're just dropping it.

00:17:53.320 And, of course, they're the new masters of the universe.

00:17:57.600 They got it all.

00:17:59.400 And I'm saying this in the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday they've already reached human level intelligence.

00:18:05.600 That's not a small hurdle.

00:18:07.700 And some of the things going on in this lapse is quite extraordinary.

00:18:11.240 I'm the first to admit that.

00:18:12.320 But you also have quite extraordinary with, you know, you talk about mitigating risk.

00:18:19.360 Here we're going forward at this Mach 2 with the devil catch the hindmost on the risk.

00:18:27.820 And these are the type of risk.

00:18:29.220 If these things happen, it's like biological warfare.

00:18:32.000 You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

00:18:35.660 More on that.

00:18:36.500 We're going to be hammering this every day because this is one of the central issues of our time.

00:18:40.400 Of everything else that's going on, all the other stuff we talk about, all the efforts you put in for politics and culture and turning things around.

00:18:50.000 This will probably be known of the inflection point for the species, Homo sapiens.

00:18:57.060 And you can see it coming right now.

00:18:59.440 They talked the other day, a huge piece about this young generation.

00:19:02.540 They got to start thinking about, do you chip the kid to play sports or to just be smarter?

00:19:07.660 Remember, the moral dilemma of people say, hey, last time I look, we're made in the image and likeness of God.

00:19:15.500 Maybe that's the way it's supposed to be.

00:19:17.020 Maybe my kids study harder, work harder, do more reps in volleyball and baseball, right?

00:19:23.320 Or football or whatever they play, dance, piano.

00:19:26.080 Maybe they do it the good old-fashioned way.

00:19:27.780 The way that we got Mozart and Jesse Owens and all of it.

00:19:33.620 Or we can just chip, you know, chip yourself and then head out.

00:19:38.100 You know, Elon, besides telling everybody we're going to get on a rocket and go to Mars because you want to build a new civilization.

00:19:43.640 Hey, how about let's sort this one out?

00:19:47.080 Always love heading for the stars, stuff like that.

00:19:49.360 But I think we've got enough to sort out here.

00:19:51.100 Of course, he's talking about you've got robots all over the place.

00:19:55.040 Everybody's going to have a robot.

00:19:56.320 That's the new thing.

00:19:58.040 Of course, the one he's working on, according to the Wall Street Journal, you know, looks like an 11-year-old girl.

00:20:03.180 And they're all focused on, you know, getting all the anime.

00:20:06.620 I don't know.

00:20:08.180 I don't know.

00:20:09.320 I just don't know.

00:20:10.180 But we certainly don't want people like that making decisions that the rest of the country in this republic, in the citizens in this republic, will have to live with forever.

00:20:26.200 Nightly Winters, your thoughts, ma'am, on the surveillance.

00:20:29.180 We've got a color revolution.

00:20:30.540 We've got a deep state we're still trying to take apart.

00:20:32.400 You've got the surveillance capitalism, right?

00:20:34.740 And these guys don't want to hear anything.

00:20:36.260 They know.

00:20:37.120 They're your betters.

00:20:38.080 They know it all.

00:20:38.820 Your thoughts, ma'am?

00:20:40.940 Well, I think with everything you've outlined, we might need to add a fifth hour of war room programming.

00:20:46.220 And I still think we'd fall short of being able to address all of this.

00:20:50.780 But I think to add to the convergence narrative of all of this, I mean, what you're essentially talking about, right, the idea of bettering humans, this idea of chipping and the space stuff, I think you see it, the through line through the H-1B debate, right?

00:21:04.140 And it really goes back to what it means to be an American, right, maximizing the value of your citizenship.

00:21:10.320 And sure, we could all have, like, bug people in colonies.

00:21:13.300 You know, it's essentially, I think, culturally very communist or totalitarian.

00:21:17.520 And I think that's sort of the other side of the coin of what all of this is.

00:21:20.740 It's sort of a slow roll take on that, where it's like we exist, right?

00:21:24.860 The idea of making us maximally productive, that's sort of the scolding the American worker in favor of some, you know, H-1B scam Indian or Chinese person that's going to come over here. 0.99

00:21:34.760 Is it's like, well, actually, I don't exist or said worker doesn't exist just to boost the profit margins of some evil multinational global corporation that when push comes to shove, like, I don't know, January 6th, they're going to stop funding and they're going to blacklist all the politicians who are fighting for the very voice of the employees that they're essentially subjugating.

00:21:53.660 So there's so many layers to this.

00:21:56.140 And, you know, I'm in D.C. a ton.

00:21:58.520 I know I don't go to the White House as much anymore, but I still talk to people in that sort of tech space.

00:22:03.260 And, you know, it is so fake.

00:22:06.160 That would be the message.

00:22:07.460 And I know that that's nothing new.

00:22:08.740 We've been sort of banging that drum.

00:22:11.640 But they, I think, Steve, one of the most profound things that you have said, and there's a lot of that, but as of recent, is that everybody wants a piece of this audience.

00:22:21.240 Everybody wants a piece of the MAGA movement.

00:22:24.080 And these tech people, they're smart.

00:22:25.960 I'll give them that.

00:22:26.800 And they understand the power that this audience has, right?

00:22:30.920 It's the reason why they want to meet and talk with me, not because of me, but because of this audience and the audience that you have you've created because they actually do stuff.

00:22:39.340 They understand action, action, action, and accountability.

00:22:42.600 That is not what Silicon Valley and all these tech people are about.

00:22:45.620 They are about fakeness and distraction and pumping fake value and, like you said, socializing the risk.

00:22:52.060 And right now, it's like the Mark Zuckerberg performative, you know, ending the fact check.

00:22:57.860 That's not it.

00:22:59.200 These people, frankly, belong in prison.

00:23:01.400 And that's the opening bid for what they did in the 2020 election.

00:23:04.920 But I think the scariest people are the ones who pretend to be your friends as compared to the people who will stay firm on their convictions.

00:23:13.920 And you see that in the CARP article today, talking about how he used to be buddy-buddy with Democrats, and now he's, you know, hanging out with Trump.

00:23:21.140 People like that, beware. 0.59

00:23:23.700 Beware.

00:23:26.240 Natalie, you know, I've been hammering on Sachs and Jensen because they've been at the lead of kind of this, it doesn't matter who wins in AI, and aren't we being greedy?

00:23:40.040 Aren't we being terrible as Americans because we want to hoard these chips?

00:23:43.200 I think the comment was we want to hoard these chips ourselves.

00:23:45.960 You've done, and you're going to hang through the break, you've done some more investigative reporting.

00:23:50.420 Kind of your wheelhouse has always been looking at the Chinese Communist Party and the subversion of our technology companies, the government process, all of it. 0.94

00:24:02.000 You've got some amazing pieces up on Substack.

00:24:04.660 What do you got for us?

00:24:06.900 Well, yeah, we definitely got to go through all the details on that one because it's just maddening.

00:24:10.940 But I think the point that I would make broadly, people like Jensen Huang, people like all of these sort of, you know, China simps, people like David Sachs,

00:24:19.120 is that this, I've never liked the idea of the, I can save it for after the break.

00:24:25.820 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:24:27.460 I want to see, anybody that, anybody that gives me a CCP simp is going to, you hang on for a second.

00:24:33.720 As the caissons go, March rolling along is going to take us out.

00:24:37.740 It is Veterans Day 2025.

00:24:41.440 Mo's up at West Point.

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00:24:46.800 So, Natalie Winters is with us.

00:24:49.480 She's done another great investigative report.

00:24:52.180 I love it.

00:24:53.080 If you're a China, if you're a simp for China. 0.98

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00:31:59.680 Natalie Winters, Simp for CCP.

00:32:03.280 Continue on, ma'am.

00:32:04.480 You've got plenty of runway here.

00:32:07.560 Well, I'm going to make that sentence even more interesting.

00:32:10.420 I don't know if Simp has ever been used in the same context as the Thucydides trap,

00:32:14.900 but we're going to go there.

00:32:15.840 But, you know, they treat it, right, like it's, as you would say, a law of physics,

00:32:20.220 that you have, you know, a rising power, and then you have the United States.

00:32:23.340 There's going to be some form of conflict.

00:32:24.840 And they always sort of use that paradigm to explain how China is going to eventually overtake the United States.

00:32:29.920 But I've never liked that because there's sort of this passive, you know, agency and autonomy-less view of what the United States can do to prevent that conflict.

00:32:39.400 And people like David Sachs, people like Jensen Huang, that sort of ilk, not even the outright pro-China collaborating faction,

00:32:46.520 but the sort of euphemistic wishy-washy crowd, those are the people who make that trajectory,

00:32:51.620 the replacement of the United States, not in a, you know, unipolar world order,

00:32:55.120 but us being replaced effectively by the Chinese Communist Party, not just a nightmare, but they make it reality. 0.83

00:33:03.380 And I think some of the, you know, words we've heard from President Trump talking about Chinese students,

00:33:07.300 most recently with Laura Ingraham, are quite concerning.

00:33:10.000 I would argue that we need to be at a, you know, Manhattan Project level of not just decoupling from the Chinese Communist Party,

00:33:17.460 but understanding the, you know, hybrid unrestricted warfare that we're at with them 0.99

00:33:22.260 and how it is American useful idiots who are getting very wealthy off of collaborating with China, 0.98

00:33:28.560 and it's our tax dollars that are propping up the same apparatus and ecosystems that are now being weaponized against us. 0.99

00:33:34.600 Case in point, everything to do, you know, with the rare earths,

00:33:38.320 I would just add, making America great again is not about turning Jensen Huang into, you know,

00:33:43.740 a kleptocratic trillionaire or David Sachs into a kleptocratic, you know, decamillionaire.

00:33:49.520 But the rare earth one, I think, is a really interesting example,

00:33:53.000 sort of what you were talking about with, you know, us, the taxpayers,

00:33:56.160 not seeing any upside to where our money is going to every corner of the earth,

00:34:00.780 but in this case, it's actually funding our demise.

00:34:03.720 I uncovered several studies and research into rare earths being done essentially at China's top lab, 0.87

00:34:14.680 their kind of state key laboratory for what they call rare earth materials and chemistry.

00:34:19.440 It was founded by China's sort of grandfather of all their rare earth tech. 0.95

00:34:24.060 It's this laboratory that has allowed them to really consolidate, monopolize,

00:34:27.700 and ultimately weaponize so much of the global rare earth supply,

00:34:31.320 but also the refinement capabilities of it.

00:34:33.740 It's super granular research.

00:34:35.380 If I read you the titles of the papers, my eyes would bug out,

00:34:39.400 and I'm sure yours would too, so you could read it on there.

00:34:42.860 They're showing the article on the screen.

00:34:44.840 But the Department of Energy, the National Science Foundation,

00:34:48.640 and even the Office of Naval Research and the Naval Research Laboratory

00:34:54.940 have been sending our tax dollars to research that is being concurrently conducted

00:35:00.560 between American researchers and their counterparts

00:35:04.200 at this Chinese Communist Party-run laboratory that is really a central node

00:35:09.120 in their efforts to shore up these resources.

00:35:12.120 And in reading through some of these papers,

00:35:13.820 I actually found active energy department money going to studies

00:35:19.080 that are listed as part of the 100 Talents Program,

00:35:23.000 which not only have we seen several indictments and espionage cases come from that,

00:35:28.000 but on face value, even the most euphemistic description of it

00:35:31.040 by the Chinese Communist Party, it's to steal high-value technology from the West, 0.71

00:35:36.540 particularly from the United States.

00:35:39.120 And I just think this story is such a wonderful, yet just ominous and scary metaphor

00:35:44.780 for what we have subsidized, our own demise, right?

00:35:47.720 Like the Chinese Communist Party says, it's strangling us with our own systems,

00:35:51.720 and I don't want to hear a peep from the Fauci's of the world, 1.00

00:35:56.280 the broader, equally compromised, right, scientific community

00:35:59.600 that preaches the collaborationists, they're the collaborators,

00:36:03.960 and I use that in the sense that all they want to do is collaborate

00:36:06.100 with the Chinese Communist Party while collaborating with a regime

00:36:09.240 that wants to not just steal your IP, but steal your IP to replace you

00:36:13.240 doesn't go over quite well.

00:36:16.280 Give me this again.

00:36:17.720 They're funding the very studies that are down.

00:36:20.960 Walk me through the studies.

00:36:22.240 How does this fit in?

00:36:24.780 So China's key state laboratory for rare earth materials and chemistry,

00:36:30.940 this is the group that, like I said, is their foremost tip-of-the-spear sort of organ

00:36:36.680 that is conducting the actual research.

00:36:39.100 So on several research papers, nearly a dozen, listed in their funding,

00:36:46.620 so this is research that is potentially, in some cases definitely,

00:36:49.700 but in some cases it's a gray area, being done in China,

00:36:52.840 certainly conducted by researchers from this lab,

00:36:55.640 and it's tax dollars from the Navy, the Department of Energy,

00:36:59.020 and the National Science Foundation going and supporting this work.

00:37:03.140 Hold it, full stop.

00:37:04.500 You're telling me that branches of the U.S. government

00:37:06.880 are funding research at a CCP center on rare earths

00:37:13.500 done by CCP researchers.

00:37:17.020 Our tax dollars are funding that.

00:37:20.560 Yes, sir, and I almost got deja vu to the COVID times,

00:37:24.600 but yes, exactly, that's exactly what's happening.

00:37:28.020 How can, how can, how does, I mean, once again,

00:37:33.020 this is back to the whole COVID thing, right?

00:37:35.160 How do they, how do Department of Energy and these other departments,

00:37:40.740 how do they justify that?

00:37:44.580 So like I was saying, it's part of this broader,

00:37:47.100 just pro-collaboration view because they don't view this laboratory,

00:37:51.120 frankly, I think the bureaucrats who are okay in this stuff,

00:37:53.440 they don't even understand, or they're bought off.

00:37:56.060 Maybe I'm being too charitable.

00:37:58.200 But I mean, Steve, I have spent hours on your program alone

00:38:02.000 over the last few years, detailing chapter and verse,

00:38:05.120 the hundreds, this is a small,

00:38:06.980 this is just specifically through the rare earth lens,

00:38:08.860 which I think is uniquely timely,

00:38:10.680 but how hundreds of studies have flown,

00:38:13.180 our tax dollars have flown,

00:38:14.420 not even to like vaguely, you know, three iterations removed Chinese military labs,

00:38:20.200 but labs that are branches of the PLA,

00:38:23.420 like PLARF, you know, rocket testing is being done with U.S. funds.

00:38:28.540 And they're always sort of carried out through these shady euphemistic terms.

00:38:32.280 Like I said, it's these weird memorandums of understanding.

00:38:34.920 It was under Fauci, I believe in the early 2010s,

00:38:36.980 that they signed an agreement with the National Natural Science Foundation of China,

00:38:42.700 which has collaborated, like I said, with the PLA.

00:38:46.180 I mean, it's military leadership,

00:38:48.140 even leaving aside the whole military-civil fusion,

00:38:50.940 there's no such thing as a, you know,

00:38:52.160 civil scientific laboratory over there.

00:38:54.680 But the highest levels of the National Institutes of Health

00:38:57.660 are signing official memorandums

00:39:00.040 to increase research capabilities

00:39:01.840 with arms of the PLA.

00:39:04.840 So this is sort of customary use.

00:39:08.180 And we've just never under...

00:39:09.700 And Steve, I think the other broader answer to your question is

00:39:12.680 it's not even just about the rare earth science or this lab.

00:39:17.860 How did Washington, D.C. ever outsource or okay,

00:39:21.140 whether it was CFIUS or any of these companies,

00:39:23.920 outsourcing any of these materials to China?

00:39:26.620 How did we get to a point where they own nearly 100%

00:39:29.160 of the production capabilities,

00:39:30.720 even Mountain Pass, right?

00:39:32.740 Because there's several companies,

00:39:34.060 there's several case studies

00:39:35.180 where CFIUS greenlighted the sale of U.S.

00:39:38.820 Mountain Pass before they did what they're doing now

00:39:40.800 with the Magnets,

00:39:41.660 where they were sold to Chinese companies

00:39:43.960 and they were lobbied and CFIUS approved it.

00:39:47.300 So I don't know whoever would let that happen.

00:39:50.340 So that's why I find a lot of this talk

00:39:51.780 about the Chinese rare earth domination

00:39:53.940 a little performative,

00:39:55.280 like most things on China are.

00:39:56.700 It's always a justification to broaden out

00:39:58.340 the defense budget like we're seeing happen now.

00:40:00.720 But we had on Breitbart Radio back in,

00:40:05.220 I think it was 13 or 14,

00:40:07.980 I spent a whole week or so on the East China Sea,

00:40:11.180 on the Chinese Navy,

00:40:12.860 the PLA Navy shutting down really access

00:40:15.540 to the Japanese over a fight on rare earths.

00:40:18.500 And at the time,

00:40:19.080 I think it was the first time I had Eric Prince come on.

00:40:22.160 So this has been over 10 years ago

00:40:23.380 to walk through the rare earths.

00:40:24.680 Why, you know, it is just dirt,

00:40:26.100 but there's certain aspects of it,

00:40:27.520 and particularly the process of it gets the magnets

00:40:30.080 and other things,

00:40:31.060 things are absolutely essential

00:40:32.860 in the manufacturing process

00:40:34.860 and they can shut down your manufacturing pretty quickly.

00:40:37.880 And here we are.

00:40:38.600 I 100% agree with you.

00:40:39.960 People are saying now,

00:40:40.840 well, how did this even happen?

00:40:42.500 You know, how did this come about?

00:40:44.040 This has been,

00:40:45.200 the Chinese Communist Party has not been shy about this.

00:40:47.280 This has been pretty systematic,

00:40:49.040 including, as you say,

00:40:50.500 the sale of the big processing,

00:40:52.460 you know, facility in Ohio

00:40:55.760 that was taken apart, you know, brick by brick

00:40:57.860 or, you know, shed by shed

00:40:59.860 and taken over to mainland China.

00:41:01.420 And this is why they dominate.

00:41:02.520 This is why we are like a supplicant 0.80

00:41:04.340 and as the Wall Street Journal reports today,

00:41:07.060 because I kept saying,

00:41:08.260 just something doesn't feel right, right?

00:41:10.940 When you joined us for the two-hour analysis

00:41:14.660 in Busan, South Korea,

00:41:19.140 something didn't feel right

00:41:20.140 with that agreement coming out,

00:41:22.160 like the Chinese didn't put the thumbscrews in us. 0.81

00:41:24.780 They said, oh, they're going to extend it.

00:41:26.120 And now we find out

00:41:27.100 that they're doing every possible workaround

00:41:29.840 for military equipment.

00:41:31.640 Also, you should know, you know,

00:41:33.340 I think you had just left the show, Natalie,

00:41:37.200 when the Chinese delegation pulled up

00:41:40.020 and they pulled right out,

00:41:41.860 you know, they put their cars up,

00:41:43.360 pulled right out.

00:41:43.920 President Trump stayed off to the side

00:41:45.600 in the beast.

00:41:47.220 But the rest of them,

00:41:48.480 Scott Besson, all of them,

00:41:49.900 Susie Wiles,

00:41:51.520 all walked across the tarmac.

00:41:53.900 And they're kind of heading to these buses

00:41:55.940 that are like a quarter of a mile away

00:41:58.340 across the tarmac.

00:41:59.080 And I go, wow,

00:42:00.800 why are they walking across the tarmac?

00:42:02.320 And it turned out,

00:42:03.800 according to media over in China,

00:42:05.820 this was done as another dominance move

00:42:09.060 by Xi, who's not our buddy.

00:42:11.720 So I agree with you.

00:42:13.080 This whole, oh my gosh,

00:42:14.800 like in Washington, D.C.,

00:42:15.880 gosh, rare earths.

00:42:16.800 People have known about this

00:42:18.180 for obviously for 20 years,

00:42:20.360 but for the last decade,

00:42:21.440 it's been kind of the top of the mind

00:42:23.360 when you talk about

00:42:24.400 the strategic relationship

00:42:25.900 with the Chinese Communist Party, ma'am.

00:42:28.520 And you see now,

00:42:29.540 as you say, totally performative,

00:42:31.380 like, oh my gosh,

00:42:32.820 how did this happen to us?

00:42:34.360 Natalie.

00:42:34.640 Well, and I also think

00:42:37.460 that it intensified dramatically

00:42:39.160 in sort of the interregnum period

00:42:41.220 between both Trump administrations

00:42:43.060 under Joe Biden.

00:42:44.420 And I don't just mean that

00:42:45.260 because they had a bunch of,

00:42:46.520 you know, free shots on goal.

00:42:48.140 But after the first trade war,

00:42:50.580 though I hate that term,

00:42:52.100 I think China also realized

00:42:53.520 that that was where

00:42:54.180 their key vulnerability was.

00:42:55.820 And if they could bolster that

00:42:56.980 and buttress their ability

00:42:58.300 to control both the rare earths,

00:43:00.140 critical minerals,

00:43:00.840 magnets,

00:43:01.140 all that stuff themselves,

00:43:02.000 but also, like I was saying,

00:43:03.040 the refinement

00:43:03.560 and the production capabilities,

00:43:05.520 that that would give them

00:43:06.480 a significant upper hand.

00:43:07.860 And we've essentially seen

00:43:08.780 that play out, right?

00:43:09.960 That's what we're seeing right now.

00:43:11.300 But in those four years,

00:43:13.300 that was when we saw

00:43:14.560 it was the China rare earth group.

00:43:16.920 So they basically consolidated

00:43:18.700 all of their, you know,

00:43:20.400 three or four largest state owned

00:43:22.820 or state directly or indirectly.

00:43:24.760 They're all basically directly.

00:43:26.140 But rare earth companies

00:43:27.740 into one mega company

00:43:29.220 that basically bought up

00:43:31.000 everything they could

00:43:32.380 from Latin America

00:43:33.280 and Europe and Africa, right?

00:43:34.940 Sort of the belt and road approach

00:43:36.600 with these strategic investments.

00:43:38.640 But they really bundled

00:43:39.980 all of this stuff

00:43:40.760 into one kind of monolithic group

00:43:42.760 that just went and rolled

00:43:44.620 really, really, really hard

00:43:46.720 on shoring up

00:43:47.900 all the rare earth stuff.

00:43:48.960 And like we were saying,

00:43:49.680 this is what they've been doing.

00:43:50.680 This is what the new Silk Road 0.98

00:43:51.960 is about.

00:43:52.940 I was, when I was in Asia,

00:43:54.140 I went to Laos.

00:43:55.580 And I mean,

00:43:56.460 it's Chinese writing everywhere.

00:43:58.980 Every single thing

00:44:00.040 that's being built there

00:44:01.180 is owned by China.

00:44:03.380 All of the materials,

00:44:04.660 the people that they're importing there,

00:44:06.420 places where there's no development

00:44:07.980 and no running water,

00:44:09.020 they have the most high-tech capabilities

00:44:10.600 to extract this stuff.

00:44:12.020 And it's all Chinese. 0.97

00:44:14.120 I saw no American development.

00:44:16.000 I mean, it's,

00:44:17.060 when you see it in person,

00:44:18.140 the scope of it,

00:44:19.400 it's, you know,

00:44:20.900 with a nation-ending jaw drop,

00:44:23.060 it's truly daunting.

00:44:24.520 No, no, no.

00:44:26.260 They're full-spectrum dominance.

00:44:28.260 What do you think,

00:44:28.880 because underlying Fox Digital

00:44:31.340 had a very interesting piece.

00:44:34.520 It was Mike Rowe,

00:44:36.240 you know,

00:44:36.640 the get-the-hands-dirty guy,

00:44:38.060 who I think is pretty extraordinary

00:44:39.160 about how he explains things,

00:44:40.620 plus the CEO of Ford Motor.

00:44:42.940 And the CEO of Ford Motor goes,

00:44:44.740 hey, no one should miss this point.

00:44:46.980 They are on a tear

00:44:48.220 to be a manufacturing superpower

00:44:50.200 and have the United States

00:44:51.520 in a third, fourth, or fifth position,

00:44:54.860 not even number two.

00:44:56.200 And they're bound and determined to do it.

00:44:58.360 As we talk about the economic plan,

00:45:00.780 which is predicated upon

00:45:01.860 massive capital investment

00:45:03.380 and tax incentives to do that, 0.85

00:45:04.780 at the same time,

00:45:05.920 we're doing all of our

00:45:06.980 commercial relationships, right,

00:45:08.920 around a policy

00:45:10.860 that if you don't manufacture here,

00:45:12.760 you're going to have tariffs

00:45:13.780 to get through the golden door.

00:45:16.260 The CCP,

00:45:17.480 I mean,

00:45:17.820 they are full economic warfare with us.

00:45:20.180 They may put a smiley face

00:45:22.540 on it every now and again,

00:45:24.200 but this is the central,

00:45:25.560 this is the central economic issue

00:45:28.220 of our time,

00:45:28.980 is there economic war against us, ma'am?

00:45:32.640 Yeah, I mean,

00:45:33.340 it's communists

00:45:34.240 seizing the means of production

00:45:35.820 and getting us to continue

00:45:37.020 to outshore and offshore

00:45:38.580 all of our manufacturing capabilities.

00:45:41.240 And to another point,

00:45:42.620 well, we'll link it back

00:45:43.280 to my other story

00:45:44.200 about this idea

00:45:45.060 of just, you know,

00:45:45.920 trying to humiliate

00:45:47.480 the United States

00:45:49.020 on the world stage,

00:45:50.480 even to the point

00:45:51.400 where they had

00:45:51.960 Secretary of War Hegseth

00:45:53.980 meeting with someone

00:45:54.860 who is four or five steps

00:45:56.520 below him

00:45:57.180 in the chain of command,

00:45:58.820 someone who's not

00:45:59.600 the equivalent of China's,

00:46:00.760 you know,

00:46:01.080 Secretary of Defense

00:46:02.040 that'd be the Ministry of Defense,

00:46:03.240 but someone who's like

00:46:04.080 their spokesperson,

00:46:05.380 like a Sean Parnell, right?

00:46:06.440 It's little things

00:46:07.180 that to most people

00:46:07.940 they maybe don't pick up on,

00:46:09.520 but it's signal, not noise,

00:46:10.800 and that's what we're about

00:46:11.540 here in the war room.

00:46:12.840 But just even a few days,

00:46:14.320 it was like three days

00:46:15.240 before the big summit

00:46:17.340 that we were discussing,

00:46:18.960 China held its big 0.94

00:46:20.520 sister cities summit,

00:46:22.220 and they had Americans,

00:46:23.840 180 of them,

00:46:25.100 showing up

00:46:25.720 from basically every state,

00:46:27.760 people who are, you know,

00:46:28.680 mayors, city commissioners,

00:46:30.440 the type of people

00:46:31.200 that they like to invest in

00:46:32.960 at a very local

00:46:33.880 and early stage,

00:46:35.200 so as they rise up

00:46:36.200 through the political ranks

00:46:37.220 in the United States,

00:46:38.820 they have people

00:46:39.620 that they consider assets.

00:46:41.180 And I think I've also seen

00:46:42.240 this really going on

00:46:43.080 with the farmland stuff.

00:46:44.220 A lot of these groups

00:46:45.080 are now making overtures,

00:46:46.800 not even to senators

00:46:47.680 or members of Congress,

00:46:48.880 but local random

00:46:50.180 agriculture officials

00:46:51.760 in Nebraska or Arkansas.

00:46:53.940 Of course,

00:46:54.280 they're reporting

00:46:54.760 that there's, you know,

00:46:55.900 weird Chinese land ownership 0.99

00:46:57.260 and, you know,

00:46:57.860 maybe drones being launched

00:46:59.300 into a trailer park

00:47:00.980 next to an Air Force base

00:47:02.200 where they're, you know,

00:47:02.900 running the B-2 bombers from.

00:47:04.820 So this is economic warfare,

00:47:06.660 but it's that compounded

00:47:08.720 with information warfare,

00:47:09.940 legal warfare, right?

00:47:10.840 It's the three warfares,

00:47:11.960 doctrine to a T.

00:47:13.480 I think what Taiwan

00:47:15.040 is doing right now

00:47:16.260 is a real bright spot.

00:47:17.640 I think it's great

00:47:18.420 that the VP spoke

00:47:20.020 in the kind of EU

00:47:21.640 parliament equivalent.

00:47:22.940 I think what they're

00:47:23.640 talking about

00:47:24.360 in terms of, you know,

00:47:25.640 building up

00:47:26.640 deterrence capabilities,

00:47:28.480 that's maybe more

00:47:29.900 the energy

00:47:30.600 that I would think

00:47:31.720 we would want to see

00:47:32.600 here in the United States

00:47:34.080 instead of this weird,

00:47:36.740 just horrific logic train

00:47:38.720 that is insulting

00:47:39.520 to the intelligence

00:47:40.880 of MAGA

00:47:41.980 that, you know,

00:47:43.000 because we can't be greedy,

00:47:44.460 we need to help

00:47:45.600 the regime

00:47:46.860 that's explicitly said 0.94

00:47:48.900 that they want to kill us 1.00

00:47:50.200 and replace us 1.00

00:47:51.700 and are planning

00:47:52.440 on infiltrating us

00:47:53.620 every corner,

00:47:54.940 every inch,

00:47:55.500 every millimeter.

00:47:56.940 It's, it's,

00:47:57.780 it's maddening to watch.

00:47:59.460 We've tracked this

00:48:00.140 for so long

00:48:00.900 and all these people

00:48:01.620 who are trying to co-op

00:48:02.560 this issue

00:48:03.120 to, you know,

00:48:03.780 make a quick buck,

00:48:04.820 it's, they're playing

00:48:05.940 with fire.

00:48:07.620 And the, of course,

00:48:08.640 the tech bros are,

00:48:09.600 like you said,

00:48:10.020 make a quick buck,

00:48:11.100 are, are 100%

00:48:13.100 part of the problem.

00:48:14.440 Natalie,

00:48:14.960 fantastic pieces

00:48:16.400 up on your Substack.

00:48:17.480 Where do people go

00:48:18.080 to get all of it, ma'am?

00:48:20.580 You can follow me,

00:48:21.580 Natalie G. Winters,

00:48:22.660 everywhere,

00:48:23.040 nataliegwinters.substack.com.

00:48:25.160 Thank you, Steve,

00:48:25.780 for having me.

00:48:26.380 It's always fun

00:48:27.040 to talk about China

00:48:27.880 with you.

00:48:28.300 It's like a return

00:48:29.280 to tradition.

00:48:32.080 There's so much to do

00:48:32.960 because I think

00:48:34.000 the mask is coming off,

00:48:35.720 President Trump

00:48:36.380 has gone out

00:48:37.040 of his way

00:48:37.700 to try to make sure

00:48:39.140 that they're integrated

00:48:39.940 into the world

00:48:40.660 economic system

00:48:41.660 and to try to,

00:48:43.260 President Trump,

00:48:44.060 you know,

00:48:44.440 wants to take

00:48:45.320 the Third World War

00:48:46.340 and tone it down,

00:48:47.240 whether that's

00:48:47.660 in Ukraine,

00:48:48.340 the Middle East,

00:48:49.660 the South China Sea,

00:48:50.880 the Straits of Taiwan.

00:48:52.080 He's got the weight

00:48:52.760 of the world

00:48:53.140 on his shoulders.

00:48:54.360 But in this regard,

00:48:56.260 as bad of actors

00:48:57.360 as the KGB is,

00:48:58.620 as bad of actors

00:48:59.380 as Zelensky is,

00:49:00.980 of course,

00:49:01.620 the mullahs in Tehran,

00:49:03.320 and Netanyahu

00:49:04.240 on many occasions,

00:49:05.720 the president

00:49:06.560 has a full-blown enemy,

00:49:09.480 not just personally.

00:49:10.520 I mean,

00:49:10.780 Xi and the Chinese Communist Party

00:49:12.220 are bound and determined

00:49:13.220 to be a hegemon, 1.00

00:49:14.560 and we just have to

00:49:15.260 continually keep that.

00:49:16.220 The thing that's most shocking

00:49:17.480 to me

00:49:18.920 is the infiltration

00:49:20.000 and subversion

00:49:20.680 here in the United States

00:49:21.480 of America.

00:49:21.920 The people that you have

00:49:22.720 to fight the hardest

00:49:23.580 are the ones

00:49:24.220 that have their

00:49:24.820 business partners

00:49:27.660 with the CCP.

00:49:28.640 I mean,

00:49:28.800 that's just the long

00:49:29.460 and the short of it.

00:49:30.500 Natalie Winters,

00:49:31.240 social media,

00:49:32.060 where do people get you?

00:49:32.800 Natalie G. Winters,

00:49:35.640 thank you, Steve,

00:49:36.200 for having me.

00:49:37.860 Thank you, man.

00:49:38.560 Appreciate you.

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WarRoom Battleground EP 889： Downfall To Americans As AI Rises; Branches Of US Military Funding Chinese Labs

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