Bannon's War Room - November 15, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 892： The Crisis In The Catholic Church And The Harm Of Uncontrolled Colonial-Era-Inspired Legal Migration

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publishing house Os Justi Cristero conflict and traditional liturgy Democracia Nacional movement
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Steve Bannon
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Mooji Satsang Perricone Gonzalo Martín Hispanidad Getter Justi Peter Kwasniewski Peter Krasniewski Vittorio Franco Thomas Aquinas Democracia Nacional Jesus Christ Jones Blessed Miguel Pro Strategic Intelligence Bishop Schneider Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen Timothy Flanders Nicholas Cavazos Edward Schaefer and 18 more
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Os Justi Press is a publishing house that focuses on Catholic classics and works that help lay people learn about the Catholic faith. In this episode, we talk about the mission of the publishing house, what it does, and why it exists.

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00:09:31.880 and his coherence and conviction speak for itself. But tell me about the publishing house
00:09:38.040 that you founded and what its mission is. Yes, thank you, Ben. Os Justi, the name Os Justi
00:09:48.440 comes from the introit of the mass for the confessors of the church, the mouth of the just,
00:09:54.420 Os Justi. And, you know, I thought I would name the company with an easy to remember name like
00:10:00.620 Kwasniewski, my last name. That's just a joke. But anyway, Os Justi press. We publish about 100
00:10:07.160 titles right now. As the very name of the press suggests, a very special focus we have is in the
00:10:13.940 area of the Catholic liturgy. For example, we just published the first ever translation of Dom Prosper
00:10:20.380 Guéranger's work, Liturgical Institutions. You can see it there scrolling by. But really, I mean,
00:10:26.920 we publish books in theology, philosophy, literature. I've got novels and poetry by
00:10:33.220 Catholic authors. We publish interviews. There's one with Bishop Schneider, whom we've been talking
00:10:38.260 about. You know, I do reprints of old classics that are out of print from the 20s, the 30s,
00:10:44.340 the 40s. I mean, there's an abundance of great Catholic literature, both being written now,
00:10:50.620 freshly, and also forgotten from the past. And so I see it as the role of Os Justi to really bring
00:10:57.620 both of those worlds to my readers.
00:11:02.100 Something that you'll hear on this show repeatedly is the need for the laity to step forward
00:11:08.340 on all aspects for the salvation of the fullness of the Catholic faith. I think what you're doing
00:11:16.420 very much is an example of everything that I think the laity ought to be doing. Tell me about this
00:11:24.360 publishing house and tell me about the Pelican Plus initiative as well that I know you're involved
00:11:30.580 with. But in terms of the publishing house, do you have a specific apostolate that you're aiming for
00:11:36.620 when you're choosing which books you want to publish?
00:11:40.320 I would say that about half of the books we publish are more of an academic nature. I have
00:11:49.380 a PhD in philosophy. I taught for many years at the university level, for 20 years. And so naturally,
00:11:56.640 I receive manuscripts, monographs of an academic nature. I'm just about to publish a textbook on
00:12:02.700 soteriology, the theory of salvation in St. Thomas Aquinas and the Catholic Magisterium. And so some of
00:12:09.680 the works are more specialized. But on the other hand, I also want to bring out works that are going
00:12:15.260 to benefit the average layperson who just wants to learn about this or that aspect of the Catholic
00:12:20.480 faith. For example, you might have seen it scrolling past on that screen, but I just published a book
00:12:26.920 on the Cristero counter-revolution and the battle for the soul of Mexico. This is a very accessible,
00:12:33.080 it's the best one-volume treatment of the Cristero conflict ever written. It was originally in
00:12:39.120 Spanish. We've translated it into English. It's a beautiful book. It's a very moving and inspiring
00:12:44.940 book. And it's one that, it grips you right from the beginning, because it's telling this story about
00:12:49.920 these laypeople who took up arms, tens of thousands of laypeople took up arms against their free Masonic
00:12:56.400 anti-Catholic government. This was between the years of 1926 and 1929. And they were winning. They 0.99
00:13:02.640 were winning this fight. It's an incredibly inspiring story. There were martyrs galore, hundreds and hundreds
00:13:07.100 of martyrs. So that's the kind of book I want to reach, you know, a big audience with a story like
00:13:12.800 that, because we should be proud of these people. Most Catholics, maybe they've heard of the Mexican
00:13:17.140 martyrs, you know, Blessed Miguel Pro. You know, they might've heard of some of these people, but they
00:13:22.600 don't know the story. They don't know how incredibly gripping it is. So that's the kind of thing that I
00:13:27.920 bring out. Also, another example would be this little pamphlet, Sacred and Great, which is an
00:13:32.420 introduction by Joseph Shaw to the traditional Latin Mass. You know, we know we're living in a
00:13:38.440 time where the Catholic Church, bizarrely, is exhibiting what I would call an autoimmune condition.
00:13:45.740 That is, the Church seems to be attacking itself. And you have hierarchs who are attacking the most
00:13:51.420 noble and ancient and beautiful liturgy of Christendom, right? The Roman Rite, the Tridentine
00:13:56.300 Rite. And I call it Tridentine, but it goes back 1600 years. So we, I see it also as very much a part
00:14:03.480 of my mission, my apostolate, to educate people about the glory of the traditional Western liturgy,
00:14:10.700 the traditional Roman Rite. And we do that with many, many different publications.
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00:15:21.260 So, Dr. Krasniewski, tell me, what was it about Father Perricone's collection of essays that
00:15:29.100 persuaded you that this was something I needed to put together as an anthology and published?
00:15:34.640 Yes. Well, I've been reading Father Perricone's work for years. And indeed, he's been reading my
00:15:42.380 books and essays for years, too. So we've known each other for a while. We both, in fact,
00:15:47.140 are from New Jersey. I mean, he's always been in New Jersey. I spent the first 18 years of my life in
00:15:53.140 New Jersey. But apart from our common love of the traditional Latin liturgy, I just find Father
00:15:59.820 Perricone an extraordinary writer in several respects. First of all, he is incredibly eloquent.
00:16:08.380 I mean, his vocabulary is enviable. He knows exactly le mot juste, just the right word for any
00:16:15.540 topic that he's trying to describe or skewer or exalt or whatever the case may be. And so he's a fine
00:16:24.580 writer, but he's also very logical, very precise. He's a Thomist. I admire that. He brings light rather
00:16:33.260 than heat. And what I find to be the case in almost the entire world of digital discourse nowadays is
00:16:41.000 that people are constantly starting fires. They're constantly shooting each other with flamethrowers.
00:16:46.260 There's a lot of heat, but there's very little light. And what we need are clear and precise
00:16:52.860 and learned writers like Father Perricone. What I think is amazing about his book is that
00:16:58.540 these are essays. These are short essays. You can read one of them before you go to bed at night.
00:17:04.160 Very easy and very digestible, and yet always very acute and very profound. And I mean, I wouldn't
00:17:12.280 publish a book of essays otherwise. You know, the essays have to be top-notch in order to merit
00:17:17.660 being gathered and published as one volume.
00:17:22.000 You mentioned that Father Perricone is a Thomist, and that reminds me that you yourself,
00:17:26.920 in your PhD in philosophy, had included the specialization in the thought of Thomas Aquinas.
00:17:34.560 What role does Thomas Aquinas have in the Church in 2025? Father Perricone?
00:17:43.620 He has a role far more important than in the past 800 years, only because of the
00:17:51.560 unprecedented crisis that the Church finds herself in. He has been named by the Church to be her
00:17:59.220 common doctor. Most Catholics recognize Aquinas as his title as angelic doctor, appropriately, 0.98
00:18:06.380 because he writes so extensively upon the nature of angels. But Mother Church awards him a title even
00:18:12.260 more significant than that in calling him the common doctor. That simply means that when Mother Church
00:18:19.320 wants to seek a deeper, fuller, and more profound understanding of the revelation of our Lord Jesus
00:18:25.740 Christ, they ought to go to St. Thomas Aquinas for a proper understanding. That's why he has such critical
00:18:34.880 importance to the Church over 800 years, but particularly today. Unfortunately, in the past 60 years,
00:18:43.140 our pseudo-Catholic intelligentsia has set about creating a blackout on St. Thomas Aquinas.
00:18:50.480 I suspect they recognize that if they allowed him the chance to come into the mind of the Church,
00:18:59.940 into the mind of Catholics, their whole experiment that they were attempting of so-called adjutant 0.98
00:19:06.140 would come quickly to an end. It would collapse under the force of St. Thomas' teaching.
00:19:12.360 He is our thick wall. He is our garrison against false ideas. No wonder why the enemies of the Church,
00:19:22.820 especially at the Council, wanted to closet him. And indeed, they almost did so. If not now, for the new
00:19:33.440 renaissance of St. Thomas Aquinas, which is occurring because of Dr. Gusnowski's press, because of his works,
00:19:39.420 all of them, and all his many efforts, to say nothing of other efforts throughout the world,
00:19:48.160 such as the Dominicans and the House of Studies in D.C. and that whole eastern province,
00:19:53.460 that are reintroducing to the world of scholarship the almost perfect understanding that we could have
00:20:01.700 of a Catholic faith through the prism and lens of St. Thomas Aquinas. I cannot overestimate how important
00:20:09.860 he is for Catholic orthodoxy, and that being the very reason why he needed to be obscured if completely
00:20:20.180 exiled from Catholic understanding.
00:20:22.740 You're absolutely right that clarity of thought is the great enemy of modernism.
00:20:32.820 Father Kvasniewski, I know you want to interject here.
00:20:38.020 No, I was just thinking about how Father, he mentioned that if they could get rid of St.
00:20:44.480 Thomas, then modernism could triumph. And I was just reminded of what Busser, one of the famous
00:20:52.200 early Protestant reformers, said. He said, if we could only destroy the works of St.
00:20:56.640 Thomas Aquinas, then we would triumph.
00:21:00.980 So I thought, I saw your finger. I thought, I saw your finger raising. I thought you wanted to
00:21:05.440 cut in. Father Perricone, we only have like about four minutes, little less than four minutes left.
00:21:15.540 Could you just quickly say something about the cult of the inner God, what that means?
00:21:22.980 I've written extensively on that. Chesterton talked about it, and I have often quoted him.
00:21:29.380 And he talks about the fact that of all the horrible religions, the most horrible is the cult of the God 1.00
00:21:37.860 within. And what does he mean by that? He means that, as the modernists indicated, we simply recognize
00:21:46.360 religion as this elan, this inner principle that guides us. Essentially, it's my feelings that guide me.
00:21:53.960 And this takes the replace, this replaces objective revelation. Now, Chesterton pleased that quote by
00:22:02.920 saying of all the horrible religions, the religion of the God inside of us, of the God within, means that 0.93
00:22:11.740 when Mr. Jones speaks to the God within him, he is merely speaking to Mr. Jones. So I think that
00:22:21.100 one of my campaigns has been mounted against this. And the whole notion of so-called spirituality in
00:22:28.200 the church, and if you look at any, many leftist Catholic newspapers, you'll see that they are
00:22:36.340 replete with offerings of spirituality centers. And that would be as good as going into a Carl Rogers
00:22:43.000 Institute. They often have nothing to say about our Lord Jesus Christ, or his redemption on Calvary,
00:22:49.260 or of the sacred revelation he entrusted to the Catholic Church, and of our obligation daily to
00:22:55.660 renounce ourselves in order to be more perfectly conformed to him. That is something alien to these
00:23:01.360 people. They would rather simply consult their feelings, and sadly, so many Catholics, when they 0.89
00:23:08.380 go to Mass each and every Sunday, have found before them merely exercises in self-realization, at best,
00:23:17.200 entertainment at worst, which merely reinforces for them this notion of self-discovery, of seeking the
00:23:25.500 God within. It's very, very deadly, Ben. And if I want to devote more of my writings to that,
00:23:33.820 that would be the subject I have to, that's the idol I want to take down.
00:23:37.960 Peter Kwasniewski, I can see now why you were very quick to publish a book by Father Perricone.
00:23:48.160 Father, when you're speaking, I can't help, you know who you remind me of when you're speaking,
00:23:53.860 the Claritine expression, Fulton Sheen. I don't know if it's the syntax, I don't know what it is,
00:24:03.040 but I can't help but think of Archbishop Sheen as you're talking. Look, in the final 90 seconds,
00:24:11.260 Peter Kwasniewski, just say something quickly about the Pelican Plus initiative, if you wouldn't mind.
00:24:19.820 Yes, thank you. You mentioned that before. So Pelican Plus is a new digital platform
00:24:23.960 by Catholics for Catholics. Six of us co-founded it. People might have heard of some of my co-founders,
00:24:31.420 like Timothy Flanders and Kennedy Hall, Nicholas Cavazos, Edward Schaefer. We are putting together
00:24:39.380 basically a place where there will be streaming content, exclusive shows like The Great Indoctrination,
00:24:44.100 that's coming on November 15th. An amazing program about the fate of education and what we can do
00:24:50.620 about it. Charles Coulomb writes for us too. So you can stream video, you can read in the forum section,
00:24:56.340 that's where I put out my essays. And you can also pray. There's a prayer section of that
00:25:02.700 where people can listen to and join in with the divine office, with the daily mass readings for
00:25:08.000 the traditional Latin mass, with rosary in English, in Latin, chanted, spoken. You know, there's a lot
00:25:13.960 of material that we're making available. So people really should check it out. It's a wonderful,
00:25:17.440 wonderful venture. Where do people go then for Pelican Plus and on the rest of social media to keep
00:25:27.220 up with your output, Dr. Krasniewski? Yes, all you'd have to do is search for Pelican Plus
00:25:34.660 and it will come up right away, the app address. I have my own website,
00:25:40.000 peterkrasniewski.com. And also there's, of course, osjustipress.com.
00:25:44.540 And Father Perricone, where do people go? Obviously, they can go and buy the book from
00:25:51.300 Osjusti. But where else on social media might people go to keep up with your analysis and
00:25:57.060 commentary? My website, peterkrasniewski.com. There it is. Perfect. That's all we have time for. We'll be
00:26:08.520 back in two minutes after this short break. To see us out up to the break, let's go back in here
00:26:15.260 a few closing seconds, once again, of the Sanctus of the Misa Honorificentia Populi Nostri by its
00:26:23.200 composer, Dr. Peter Krasniewski. Thank you both very much for joining us and I look forward to
00:26:28.320 catching up with you again soon. God bless for now.
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00:32:01.320 yesterday, Matt Goodwin, one time GB News commentator, one time academic, now the honorary president of
00:32:09.500 Reform UK students, came out with a statement and he said it takes more than a piece of paper to make
00:32:16.400 somebody British, adding that migrants do not instantly adopt the host country's British or English
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00:33:17.820 Portugal, thanks to Chagas, what's called popularly in the press, the far-right movement, put pressure on the government, so they've 0.97
00:33:31.860 tightened up also the citizenship in Portugal. Now, and that obviously includes people from, say, for example, Brazil
00:33:40.500 that have Portuguese heritage. So the one outlier now in the European Union is Spain, which still has
00:33:54.760 favourable terms, I think simply two years, for people of Spanish descent from around the world, specifically, but not exclusively, South America.
00:34:08.780 And therefore, to discuss this and its impact on Europe, we're inviting back on to the show, Gonzalo Martín, who's the vice
00:34:19.000 president of National Democracy, the Spanish movement. Gonzalo, thanks for coming back. So tell me the situation then in Spain, and
00:34:28.800 perhaps you wouldn't mind explaining a bit about this concept of Hispanidad, which I think doesn't go back, it goes back beyond
00:34:38.000 before Franco, back to the very end of the 19th century, the early 20th century, somewhat a poetic expression, obviously developed
00:34:47.140 significantly under Franco, but this is the idea, the concept, that there is a natural affinity between Spain and the people in the
00:34:57.860 former Spanish colonies around the world. And I would describe this to our largely American audience, very similar to, in fact, how the British
00:35:06.720 commonwealth developed developed out of the British Empire. And I think, you know, you can see a parallel movement here, but it's
00:35:14.380 moved forward in different ways. Gonzalo, tell us a bit about Hispanidad first off, and what the implications are today in
00:35:23.920 contemporary Spain. Because your political party, your political movement is pretty much, I think, the only movement now in
00:35:29.780 Spain, which opposes giving preferential terms for citizenship to people of historic
00:35:37.160 Spanish descent, but have been born, grown up in different countries many miles away.
00:35:46.180 Yes, exactly. It's more or less similar what the British are doing with the commonwealth. So the idea of Hispanidad is that the common
00:35:52.860 history, language, language and culture that we serve with countries that used to be part of the Spanish empire.
00:35:59.240 So the concept of Hispanidad, it will take in sight not only the countries that speak Spanish, also Portugal, Brazil, the
00:36:12.580 Philippines, and in Africa, it will be the Equatorial Guinea. So all the countries that were part of Spain, or there were
00:36:20.940 territories that belong to the Spanish empire. And we, these people defending the Hispanidad, they say that we share
00:36:28.920 common language and culture, of course, and that more or less, they are saying that we are, some of them, they are
00:36:37.920 saying that we are the same people, and we don't agree at all. Because the opposite of the concept of commonwealth
00:36:43.860 from the British, people living in former colonies of the British empire, most of them, not India, for example, but in the
00:36:50.940 Australia, New Zealand, America, Canada, they are dire descendants from Europeans, most of them. But in the case of the 1.00
00:36:58.920 Spanish empire, the Spanish empire, as you know, it's a mixed, it was a mixed population. And of course, the elite were mostly
00:37:06.900 Spanish, but it doesn't, you cannot say that we are closer, we are as close to an Argentinian, white Argentinian for Buenos Aires, than to an
00:37:16.900 indigenous person from Bolivia. So it's not the same. And they are using this Spanish concept to open borders to all these, all the 1.00
00:37:26.920 people from those countries to come to Spain with excuse that this is the good immigration that Spain needs, because they 0.99
00:37:33.920 are the same people like we are. And of course, we are not the same people. And many of those countries, or most part of
00:37:39.820 them, they were fighting against Spain 200 years ago to get independence. So they got independence, and we don't see why to open
00:37:47.040 borders for them, if they wanted to open borders for them, if they wanted to be independent.
00:37:51.040 Okay, now, tell us something about the political context in Spain right now, because you're taking a strong position
00:37:59.040 against this Hispanidad concept. But that is largely, historically, a political concept that had a lot of strength on the right. For example, Vox, very much as I
00:38:13.040 understand it, supports, still to this day, the Hispanidad mentality. And yet, you guys over at
00:38:22.040 Democracia Nacional, you're pretty much the only voice now opposing that. So here was a political concept, very strong,
00:38:30.040 obviously, for cultural, historical reasons, on the right. Because obviously, people on the right tend not to be too ashamed of
00:38:38.040 their cultural history. Spain had an empire, Britain had an empire, there was good, there was bad in these
00:38:46.040 empires. But the important thing is not to judge history with today's standards, and not to write off everything
00:38:55.040 on the basis of a few things, which perhaps wouldn't be appreciated today. So you have this concept that was very alive
00:39:02.040 on the right. Tell me about the context now in Spain, because you with this courageous position that you've come
00:39:10.040 up with, and so basically, that whilst this concept might be might be a reality, that there might be these historical
00:39:17.040 cultural linguistic ties with people from around the world, it doesn't automatically entitle you shouldn't
00:39:23.040 automatically entitle you to come to mainland Spain, and take citizenship. The dynamic here, and the
00:39:30.040 reason why this is so important, because once you come to any single European country, and take
00:39:35.040 citizenship in that country, you can then go anywhere else right across the Europe, right across the European
00:39:42.040 Union. So to some extent, this, Spain is now an outlier with this. And some people are suggesting it is
00:39:51.040 somewhat the Achilles heel now, in terms of tightening up on legal migration, rather than the illegal
00:40:00.040 migration, which I guess is you and Vox, and everyone are totally opposed to. So tell us about the context
00:40:08.040 on the right of the political spectrum in Spain now. How this initiative on behalf of
00:40:15.040 of democracy and national has been embraced by the other political parties, but also by the Spanish
00:40:22.040 citizens themselves?
00:40:24.040 Well, we have to understand that the Hispanidad is a romantic concept, and in a way, it's an
00:40:30.040 opposition to the concept of Anglo-Saxon imperialism. So there was a fight between Anglo-Saxon imperialism
00:40:37.040 and Spanish imperialism. So in the 19th century, there were some writers and some patriotic
00:40:45.040 people that were saying that we should defend the heritage that we have in common, in opposition
00:40:50.040 to the Anglo-Saxon empire, in this case, with the rise of the United States of America.
00:40:57.040 That we should be proud of what we are, what we were, the big empire we were, and so on.
00:41:02.040 Okay, that's okay. This concept is okay. And we defend, of course, Spanish heritage, and
00:41:07.040 we believe that we have to be in touch, we have to have a good cooperation with those
00:41:10.040 countries. But it doesn't mean that because we share a common history language and even
00:41:14.040 genetics, they are Spanish people. And we oppose to this immigration, this called good 1.00
00:41:20.040 immigration, that we consider is not a good immigration at all, we think is the most dangerous 1.00
00:41:24.040 immigration we can have in Spain. Because people, when they see millions of Muslims 1.00
00:41:30.040 coming to Spain, they feel that they are aliens to us. They feel that they don't belong
00:41:34.040 to us. And in the future, when time will come, they will be sent back to the country. It
00:41:39.040 will be easy. But the problem with South Americans is that people, they don't see that they are 0.94
00:41:44.040 different, and they get inside of the society. And this is what it will finish with the Spanish 1.00
00:41:50.040 way of life and also the Spanish native population.
00:41:53.040 Gonzalo, I'm going to ask you to dig a little deeper on what you just said about this being
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00:44:18.040 immigration is potentially one of the most dangerous forms out there. Just explain a little bit more 1.00
00:44:24.040 about what you mean by that. The immigration from countries that they speak Spanish and they
00:44:30.040 share similar genetics to the Spanish people is the most dangerous immigration because they infiltrate 1.00
00:44:36.040 more the society. They're getting stuck inside of the society and they are mixing more with the Spanish 1.00
00:44:42.040 native population. But it will take the Spanish population, native population to disappear,
00:44:48.040 as we will become a kind of mixed country with no identity. And this is what is happening. 1.00
00:44:53.040 They are coming in bigger numbers. Last year, just to let you know, more than 650,000 immigrants
00:44:59.040 came to Spain and 90% of them, they were coming with tourist visa by plane to the Spanish airport
00:45:05.040 to Madrid. And they were coming for countries where there is no visa to enter into Spain.
00:45:09.040 They were, it's very easy to get to, to get to Spain for them because they are coming for countries, 1.00
00:45:14.040 uh, from South America or countries that used to be part of Spain. So they just come to Spain. 0.67
00:45:19.040 They, they enter as a legal person because they come as tourists. Then they stay in Spain illegally
00:45:27.040 during two years where they will receive all kinds of help from all the NGOs working for the,
00:45:32.040 for the system and even the church. And then after two years illegally living in Spain,
00:45:37.040 they can ask already for the legal residence. Once they have the legal residence,
00:45:41.040 they can ask for the Spanish nationality. And in less than two years, they get the Spanish nationality.
00:45:46.040 So it means in four years from those two years living illegally in Spain, they become as Spanish as I am.
00:45:54.040 And this is a problem because of course they become Spanish. They have all their rights as an Spanish citizen. 1.00
00:45:58.040 They can vote. They can, they can apply for a public job, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:46:04.040 So this is the most dangerous immigration because people that they are not coming for those countries, 1.00
00:46:09.040 for example, uh, people from Morocco, if they want to get the Spanish nationality,
00:46:13.040 they need to live in Spain 10 years legally, 10 years legally. 0.77
00:46:18.040 And it's not so easy to get the nationality. Of course they get it also.
00:46:21.040 Or you have to be born in Spain. And then after one year you can get the Spanish nationality.
00:46:26.040 That is another problem with all the children from these immigrants. 1.00
00:46:29.040 But the immigrants coming from countries that speak Spanish mainly, they have everything very easy to stay here.
00:46:35.040 And of course there are millions and millions of poor people in America, in South America,
00:46:40.040 that they can come to Spain just with a flight ticket and they come, they come to Spain, they stay here, 0.97
00:46:44.040 they will never come back. And the worst thing is that they bring the whole family.
00:46:47.040 So even one of them is working legally. They have the grandmother, the grandfather, the grandchildren,
00:46:54.040 the whole family here that they collapse our social system.
00:46:57.040 So if you want to go to the doctor that in Spain is a universal, it means it's for free for everybody.
00:47:02.040 Well, it's not for free because it's paid with our taxes, but for them it's for free.
00:47:06.040 Then you want to go to a specialist and maybe you need to wait half year because it's collapsed.
00:47:11.040 But by all these immigrants, they didn't pay not even a penny during the whole life. 0.99
00:47:16.040 Gonzalo, I follow these things pretty closely and I was unaware of this loophole.
00:47:26.040 I didn't realise it was still existent in the European Union to this extent and the implications were quite so massive.
00:47:36.040 Tell me about the success you have had in talking to other similar movements across the European Union.
00:47:43.040 Do they see the threat that you have identified here?
00:47:48.040 Are they helping you from outside Spain to apply pressure within Spain for change?
00:47:55.040 How has this been taken up by the similar movements that you liaise and cooperate with across the EU?
00:48:07.040 Well, it is difficult to say because most parts of countries are facing Muslim immigration or African immigration in general.
00:48:15.040 So they think that it might be not so bad immigration coming from Colombia, Venezuela, for example.
00:48:21.040 But it is as bad as immigration from Africa. 0.99
00:48:24.040 The only difference is that they have a crucifix on the chest, but they change nothing. 1.00
00:48:28.040 They also rape people. 0.99
00:48:29.040 They also kidnap people. 0.99
00:48:31.040 They also steal.
00:48:32.040 They also kill.
00:48:33.040 They also take advantage of the social system.
00:48:35.040 So for us, it's the same.
00:48:36.040 I don't care if they have the surname Martinez, Garcia or whatever.
00:48:39.040 They are still being a problem for us.
00:48:41.040 So I try to make people understand that this situation is really bad, not only for Spain, for everybody.
00:48:48.040 Because as you said, once you enter in Spain, once you enter in any of the European countries, they have freedom of movement between members of the European Union.
00:48:59.040 So once they come to Spain, for them, it's easier to stay in Spain because of the language.
00:49:03.040 But it doesn't prevent them to move to France, to move to Italy and even to move to countries where the language is more difficult as Germany or Scandinavia.
00:49:11.040 And they will do it because once they get the Spanish legal residence and even worse, once they get the Spanish nationality, they are European citizens officially and they can move all around Europe. 0.90
00:49:23.040 And there are more than 500 million people living in Spanish speaking countries in America.
00:49:30.040 Imagine how many millions of poor people are in Spanish speaking America that can come to Europe.
00:49:35.040 And the entry to Europe is Spain, the airport of Madrid Barajas.
00:49:39.040 And once they are in Spain, they have freedom to move all around Europe.
00:49:43.040 And this is a big problem, not only of Spain, of the rest of Europe.
00:49:46.040 And they are having problems even now, for example, in Poland.
00:49:49.040 They are facing problems with Colombian immigrants because, as I said, it doesn't matter if they speak Spanish. 1.00
00:49:54.040 It doesn't matter if they say that they are Christians. 0.99
00:49:56.040 They behave as bad as immigrants from Africa. 1.00
00:49:59.040 They create ghettos. 0.99
00:50:00.040 They are aggressive, et cetera, et cetera.
00:50:03.040 We've got about 45, 60 seconds left.
00:50:07.040 You mentioned Poland.
00:50:09.040 You're in Warsaw right now.
00:50:10.040 You're calling us from Poland rather than from Spain today.
00:50:14.040 What's going on there in Poland?
00:50:15.040 What are you up to?
00:50:16.040 Well, there's a big national movement.
00:50:19.040 Unfortunately, from my point of view, they are focusing this old national pride against Russia.
00:50:26.040 And I think this is a mistake because there are some people that they are using the patriotic feeling in order to take Europe into another war.
00:50:35.040 And this is what me, as a responsible foreign affairs of my party, I'm trying to avoid.
00:50:42.040 I try that every national movement in Europe cooperates in order to avoid future wars between brothers.
00:50:50.040 Well, I wish you every success there on that.
00:50:54.040 Gonzalo, where do people go to learn more about Democracia Nacional and support you on this latest endeavor, if that's something they would like to contribute towards?
00:51:07.040 Well, they can contact us through the Telegram channel of Democracia Nacional.
00:51:11.040 They can follow us in our website, democracienacional.es.
00:51:15.040 And we are pretty active also on Twitter.
00:51:18.040 I can give you the links and then you can publish them if you want.
00:51:21.040 Yes, those are us.
00:51:23.040 And we will keep fighting not only for Spain, but for Europe, for the freedom of all the nations of Europe against globalism and massive immigration.
00:51:35.040 Gonzalo, many thanks once again for coming on the show and come back again soon and give us an update with how you're getting on opposing the Hispanidad movement.
00:51:44.040 Well, that's it. That's the end of the show today.
00:51:46.040 Thank you for joining us.
00:51:47.040 Thank you to Vittorio Franco, who actually encouraged me to look into this concept.
00:51:52.040 I was pretty much unaware of it.
00:51:53.040 It's a great thanks to him.
00:51:54.040 Thanks to Will and his superb team, as always, at Real America's Voice.
00:51:59.040 And thanks to Cameron Wallace, our producer, for putting this show together.
00:52:03.040 We'll be back at the same time next week.
00:52:06.040 Until then, God bless for now.
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