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00:31:52.520ongoing invasion into Europe is this transformation of European politics. You might have seen that
00:32:01.320yesterday, Matt Goodwin, one time GB News commentator, one time academic, now the honorary president of
00:32:09.500Reform UK students, came out with a statement and he said it takes more than a piece of paper to make
00:32:16.400somebody British, adding that migrants do not instantly adopt the host country's British or English
00:32:27.140culture and identity the moment they sign a few papers. That's a strong statement there. I think
00:32:36.100it's been welcomed very much by people in our camp. Italy, earlier on this May, tightened up its
00:32:45.300historic immigration law. That said that anyone who had an Italian, just one Italian ancestor, going back to
00:32:54.1601861, could claim Italian citizenship. They've now tightened that up and said that you had to have
00:33:02.140either a parent or a grandparent who was born an Italian citizen to make that claim via
00:33:10.500your sanguinis, which is the historic means of taking Italian citizenship through descent.
00:33:17.820Portugal, thanks to Chagas, what's called popularly in the press, the far-right movement, put pressure on the government, so they've
00:33:31.860tightened up also the citizenship in Portugal. Now, and that obviously includes people from, say, for example, Brazil
00:33:40.500that have Portuguese heritage. So the one outlier now in the European Union is Spain, which still has
00:33:54.760favourable terms, I think simply two years, for people of Spanish descent from around the world, specifically, but not exclusively, South America.
00:34:08.780And therefore, to discuss this and its impact on Europe, we're inviting back on to the show, Gonzalo Martín, who's the vice
00:34:19.000president of National Democracy, the Spanish movement. Gonzalo, thanks for coming back. So tell me the situation then in Spain, and
00:34:28.800perhaps you wouldn't mind explaining a bit about this concept of Hispanidad, which I think doesn't go back, it goes back beyond
00:34:38.000before Franco, back to the very end of the 19th century, the early 20th century, somewhat a poetic expression, obviously developed
00:34:47.140significantly under Franco, but this is the idea, the concept, that there is a natural affinity between Spain and the people in the
00:34:57.860former Spanish colonies around the world. And I would describe this to our largely American audience, very similar to, in fact, how the British
00:35:06.720commonwealth developed developed out of the British Empire. And I think, you know, you can see a parallel movement here, but it's
00:35:14.380moved forward in different ways. Gonzalo, tell us a bit about Hispanidad first off, and what the implications are today in
00:35:23.920contemporary Spain. Because your political party, your political movement is pretty much, I think, the only movement now in
00:35:29.780Spain, which opposes giving preferential terms for citizenship to people of historic
00:35:37.160Spanish descent, but have been born, grown up in different countries many miles away.
00:35:46.180Yes, exactly. It's more or less similar what the British are doing with the commonwealth. So the idea of Hispanidad is that the common
00:35:52.860history, language, language and culture that we serve with countries that used to be part of the Spanish empire.
00:35:59.240So the concept of Hispanidad, it will take in sight not only the countries that speak Spanish, also Portugal, Brazil, the
00:36:12.580Philippines, and in Africa, it will be the Equatorial Guinea. So all the countries that were part of Spain, or there were
00:36:20.940territories that belong to the Spanish empire. And we, these people defending the Hispanidad, they say that we share
00:36:28.920common language and culture, of course, and that more or less, they are saying that we are, some of them, they are
00:36:37.920saying that we are the same people, and we don't agree at all. Because the opposite of the concept of commonwealth
00:36:43.860from the British, people living in former colonies of the British empire, most of them, not India, for example, but in the
00:36:50.940Australia, New Zealand, America, Canada, they are dire descendants from Europeans, most of them. But in the case of the
00:36:58.920Spanish empire, the Spanish empire, as you know, it's a mixed, it was a mixed population. And of course, the elite were mostly
00:37:06.900Spanish, but it doesn't, you cannot say that we are closer, we are as close to an Argentinian, white Argentinian for Buenos Aires, than to an
00:37:16.900indigenous person from Bolivia. So it's not the same. And they are using this Spanish concept to open borders to all these, all the
00:37:26.920people from those countries to come to Spain with excuse that this is the good immigration that Spain needs, because they
00:37:33.920are the same people like we are. And of course, we are not the same people. And many of those countries, or most part of
00:37:39.820them, they were fighting against Spain 200 years ago to get independence. So they got independence, and we don't see why to open
00:37:47.040borders for them, if they wanted to open borders for them, if they wanted to be independent.
00:37:51.040Okay, now, tell us something about the political context in Spain right now, because you're taking a strong position
00:37:59.040against this Hispanidad concept. But that is largely, historically, a political concept that had a lot of strength on the right. For example, Vox, very much as I
00:38:13.040understand it, supports, still to this day, the Hispanidad mentality. And yet, you guys over at
00:38:22.040Democracia Nacional, you're pretty much the only voice now opposing that. So here was a political concept, very strong,
00:38:30.040obviously, for cultural, historical reasons, on the right. Because obviously, people on the right tend not to be too ashamed of
00:38:38.040their cultural history. Spain had an empire, Britain had an empire, there was good, there was bad in these
00:38:46.040empires. But the important thing is not to judge history with today's standards, and not to write off everything
00:38:55.040on the basis of a few things, which perhaps wouldn't be appreciated today. So you have this concept that was very alive
00:39:02.040on the right. Tell me about the context now in Spain, because you with this courageous position that you've come
00:39:10.040up with, and so basically, that whilst this concept might be might be a reality, that there might be these historical
00:39:17.040cultural linguistic ties with people from around the world, it doesn't automatically entitle you shouldn't
00:39:23.040automatically entitle you to come to mainland Spain, and take citizenship. The dynamic here, and the
00:39:30.040reason why this is so important, because once you come to any single European country, and take
00:39:35.040citizenship in that country, you can then go anywhere else right across the Europe, right across the European
00:39:42.040Union. So to some extent, this, Spain is now an outlier with this. And some people are suggesting it is
00:39:51.040somewhat the Achilles heel now, in terms of tightening up on legal migration, rather than the illegal
00:40:00.040migration, which I guess is you and Vox, and everyone are totally opposed to. So tell us about the context
00:40:08.040on the right of the political spectrum in Spain now. How this initiative on behalf of
00:40:15.040of democracy and national has been embraced by the other political parties, but also by the Spanish
00:48:36.040I don't care if they have the surname Martinez, Garcia or whatever.
00:48:39.040They are still being a problem for us.
00:48:41.040So I try to make people understand that this situation is really bad, not only for Spain, for everybody.
00:48:48.040Because as you said, once you enter in Spain, once you enter in any of the European countries, they have freedom of movement between members of the European Union.
00:48:59.040So once they come to Spain, for them, it's easier to stay in Spain because of the language.
00:49:03.040But it doesn't prevent them to move to France, to move to Italy and even to move to countries where the language is more difficult as Germany or Scandinavia.
00:49:11.040And they will do it because once they get the Spanish legal residence and even worse, once they get the Spanish nationality, they are European citizens officially and they can move all around Europe.
00:49:23.040And there are more than 500 million people living in Spanish speaking countries in America.
00:49:30.040Imagine how many millions of poor people are in Spanish speaking America that can come to Europe.
00:49:35.040And the entry to Europe is Spain, the airport of Madrid Barajas.
00:49:39.040And once they are in Spain, they have freedom to move all around Europe.
00:49:43.040And this is a big problem, not only of Spain, of the rest of Europe.
00:49:46.040And they are having problems even now, for example, in Poland.
00:49:49.040They are facing problems with Colombian immigrants because, as I said, it doesn't matter if they speak Spanish.
00:49:54.040It doesn't matter if they say that they are Christians.
00:49:56.040They behave as bad as immigrants from Africa.
00:50:16.040Well, there's a big national movement.
00:50:19.040Unfortunately, from my point of view, they are focusing this old national pride against Russia.
00:50:26.040And I think this is a mistake because there are some people that they are using the patriotic feeling in order to take Europe into another war.
00:50:35.040And this is what me, as a responsible foreign affairs of my party, I'm trying to avoid.
00:50:42.040I try that every national movement in Europe cooperates in order to avoid future wars between brothers.
00:50:50.040Well, I wish you every success there on that.
00:50:54.040Gonzalo, where do people go to learn more about Democracia Nacional and support you on this latest endeavor, if that's something they would like to contribute towards?
00:51:07.040Well, they can contact us through the Telegram channel of Democracia Nacional.
00:51:11.040They can follow us in our website, democracienacional.es.
00:51:15.040And we are pretty active also on Twitter.
00:51:18.040I can give you the links and then you can publish them if you want.
00:51:23.040And we will keep fighting not only for Spain, but for Europe, for the freedom of all the nations of Europe against globalism and massive immigration.
00:51:35.040Gonzalo, many thanks once again for coming on the show and come back again soon and give us an update with how you're getting on opposing the Hispanidad movement.
00:51:44.040Well, that's it. That's the end of the show today.
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