00:01:10.000It's the most important thing that I think that's happened since you spoke out about vaccines.
00:01:14.000He's engaged a topic that's really important to Maha.
00:01:19.000So what you see here is the interests of MAGA and Maha are uniting over the issue of health care costs.
00:01:26.000So this is a major driving force in American politics today.
00:01:30.000Oh, it's been revealed that the health care is costing $27,000 per capita per person for the worst health care in the world that and that's before you even use it.
00:01:49.000The socialists want single payer system.
00:01:51.000The Republicans now have a path for an alternative and Trump's laid it out, which is the government needs to give the money that it's spending on Medicare and other billions of dollars for other purposes directly to the consumers.
00:02:02.000Now, this opens up a very important opportunity because once consumers have that money, Republicans should absolutely vote this in tonight.
00:02:34.000That means we have to liberalize, pardon the word, the system.
00:02:37.000Free it up and emancipate the consumers to make their own choices in a revived and free medical marketplace.
00:02:45.000Well, it would look like open it up to a greater variety of services, not just the defined benefits plans of federal government's offering, enabling every single American citizen to have an HSA even if they're not insured.
00:03:12.000Companies need to be free to offer their employees alternatives outside of what the company is offering.
00:03:20.000And workers need to be free to take their health care spending elsewhere.
00:03:25.000If they want to go to a homeopath, that's fine.
00:03:27.000If they want to go to a direct primary care provider of which there are growing numbers, they should.
00:03:33.000To join some health cooperative, that's great.
00:03:35.000So just give the power to the consumers again.
00:03:38.000And the Republicans can do this with one piece of legislation, but they've got to get visionary and radical and follow what Trump's saying.
00:03:48.000And you fix it by bringing competition back to the market process and making doctors and consumers work together without the constant intervention of the insurance companies.
00:04:57.000And what I'm telling you is everybody knows this.
00:05:00.000And unless the Republicans need to get busy on change or the Bernie Sanders of this world are going to prevail with his crazy socialism, direct pair, single pair system, which we know is going to be even worse than what we have right now.
00:05:16.000Right. So Trump has given the Republicans opportunity here to engage all the people at this event.
00:05:22.000And we have a thousand people here, but they represent millions more.
00:05:26.000Right. Tell our viewers about what we're doing, where we are.
00:05:30.000This is called Children's Health Defense.
00:05:33.000And it's the biggest event they've ever run because the movement is growing.
00:05:38.000Brownstone is here as a kind of provider of intellectual capital goods to the event that we have many of our scholars on stage.
00:05:46.000Many of these scholars are people who were canceled from the universities, excluded from the official journals, kicked out of their journalistic venues.
00:05:54.000They used to be healthcare stringers, whatever.
00:05:56.000Brownstone adopted them, has been caring for them and supporting them for four years.
00:06:00.000Now they're on stage driving forward the debate.
00:06:03.000What's so interesting to me about this event, and I've been going to ideological trade shows all my life, right?
00:06:11.000It's always been the left, the right, whatever.
00:06:16.000For these parents at this event and for the people at this event, it's about their health and their lives and their freedoms fundamentally.
00:06:26.000This is not just about abstract ideology.
00:06:29.000This is about their freedoms that they want to exercise.
00:06:32.000They realize that freedom and health and choice all go together.
00:06:37.000This is the essence of every talk you're going to hear on stage at this event.
00:06:42.000And what I'm telling you and what I have discerned by being here is that we see being born out of the wreckage of the COVID years, a kind of new force in American public life today that is not really the same as the ideological binaries that we left in the past.
00:07:03.000It's something else entirely because it's rooted in real life experience.
00:07:09.000What happened during the COVID period is that the Leviathan, the tyranny came home, right?
00:07:15.000It interrupted people's ability to educate their kids, to go to worship service, to take medicines that are being prescribed to you by your doctor that your pharmacy is not willing to give you.
00:07:26.000And Pierre Corey was just here and he's my doctor.
00:07:30.000When I was sick as a dog, he prescribed me ivermectin.
00:07:33.000I said, oh, well, I use the pharmacy down the street at CVS.
00:07:56.000What I'm telling you is that what we're seeing at the CHG conference is a new powerful force in American life born out of bitter experience and a determination to live a better, healthier life.
00:08:13.000Dr. Freak, as you're saying that you actually kind of helped me reminisce.
00:08:16.000You know, I got involved in the health freedom movement over 10 years ago.
00:08:20.000So as a young, you know, budding filmmaker, I was like 15 at the time when I watched the movie Vaxxed.
00:08:26.000And what I was just thinking when you were saying that is that for the majority of the past few years, especially since I've been involved in the last 10 years, the people who are fighting had injured children.
00:11:19.000Of course, it turns out not to be something.
00:11:21.000But I said, and plus, there's no government in the world that is so sadistic that it would keep imposing this on its citizens for that long.
00:11:30.000And he said, well, it's not going to be that long.
00:11:32.000And I said, well, it's going to be probably until after the November election at the very least.
00:11:38.000And I said, you know, I just don't believe you.
00:11:41.000And I hung up the phone and I thought he was maybe just lying to me or something.
00:11:44.000But a lot of people at the time knew exactly what we were waiting for.
00:12:06.000And they're still getting it on their 15th booster or whatever.
00:12:09.000And then it turns out to be injurious to people for a lot of people.
00:12:14.000So when you have something like that happen, what you actually do is generate population-wide loss of trust in everything.
00:12:25.000The government agencies, the insurance companies that went along with this, the media that broadcast all the messaging, the big tech that censored critics, the pharmaceutical companies that took off-the-shelf therapeutics from being available to people, the doctors that urged you to get the shots and got paid for it.
00:12:47.000So the trust in all those institutions has collapsed in this country.
00:12:52.000And we have somewhere for those people who've lost trust to go.
00:13:30.000The problem with all that apparatus is that it's based on rationalistic abstractions that are basically disconnected to the real experience of people.
00:13:45.000But when COVID hit, we realized that everybody has an interest in freedom.
00:13:52.000And we realized that all of our official institutions are aligned to us.
00:13:57.000That is what's birthed this new movement.
00:13:59.000Part of the reason I started Brownstone, it flowed out of the Great Branch of the Declaration, which is kind of the spiritual child of the Great Branch of the Declaration, was to bring expertise to bear on the fake science that's being published every day.
00:16:07.000Well, it wasn't intended to be that way at the beginning.
00:16:10.000You know, I was board certified in emergency medicine.
00:16:12.000I was the director of a level two trauma center for 12 years.
00:16:15.000Moved to Cleveland and started an integrative practice and then went to the National Vaccine Information Center meeting in September of 2000
00:16:23.000and came home and said, how did I miss all of this?
00:16:25.000I grew up in a chiropractic family, was not vaccinated at all as a kid.
00:16:29.000I've never had a vaccine ever in my entire life.
00:16:32.000And so it's I think that's why I'm so healthy nowadays.
00:16:36.000And after I came back from that meeting, I said, maybe I really need to look into this.
00:16:41.000Well, looking into it has turned into 25 years and more than 50,000 hours worth of research.
00:16:47.000So I didn't just wake up one morning and say, gee, I think vaccines are bad.
00:16:51.000I mean, I came to a studied opinion based that vaccines have never been proven to be safe.
00:16:56.000They don't keep you from getting sick.
00:16:58.000They are not necessary and every single one causes harm.
00:17:02.000And so I've been talking about this for 25 years and I've never wavered from that message.
00:18:44.000There's also from the army worm that they use to make vaccines for some of the flu shots.
00:18:52.000And so all the different proteins all cause different inflammation and different types of antibodies that can cross-react with your tissues
00:19:00.000through a process called molecular mimicry that leads to autoimmune disease and neurological conditions.
00:19:06.000So you're saying that we're injecting foreign proteins into people via vaccination.
00:19:12.000And because that's never really happened before, right?
00:19:16.000I mean, how was that delivery versus the normal delivery of a pathogen, right?
00:19:22.000Normally you would ingest in some way.
00:19:24.000You would breathe it in or it would come in contact with your nose and mouth and eyes versus injecting directly into the muscle.
00:19:30.000You're saying that that could be harmful.
00:19:35.000This is purely speculation, but, you know, cancer is on the rise.
00:19:39.000We know that cancer rates are higher than ever.
00:19:41.000In your opinion, do you think that has anything to do with cancer rate spiking?
00:19:45.000Well, for sure with the COVID vaccines, because the COVID shots, you know, I did a webinar in July of 2021
00:19:57.000called the 20, the 40 mechanisms of injury, how the COVID shots can make you chronically sick or kill you.
00:20:28.000The spikeopathies are the myocarditis and the kidney disease and pancreatitis and Alzheimer's and all those things.
00:20:35.000The third category was autoimmune disease that I had talked to two immunologists who said, you know, about 10 years from now,
00:20:42.000we're going to see almost everyone that's had a COVID jab with some level of autoimmune disease.
00:20:47.000Then there's the fourth category of kind of other.
00:20:49.000And in that other category was this big spike of infertility and this big spike in all kinds of cancers.
00:20:57.000And they even developed a new term for it called turbo cancers that was not even in the medical vernacular before the COVID shots.
00:21:04.000And the reason they call them COVID COVID, I'm sorry, the reason they call them turbo cancers is because of how fast they onset and how fast they can cause demise.
00:21:14.000It can be with a matter within from the time it's diagnosed to the time that people die, it can be a matter of months, weeks, sometimes even days.
00:21:26.000And we're seeing all kinds of cancers in children, like eight to 12 year old children.
00:21:32.000And these are the types of cancers like colon cancer and breast cancer and prostate cancer that you usually see in people 60 years of age and older that are now happening in young people who got the COVID jabs.
00:21:43.000So, yes, we know that that's for sure.
00:21:46.000And that the cancer rate is continuing to rise precipitously, particularly in the population of people that got COVID jabs.
00:21:55.000Which, once again, is a crime against humanity.
00:22:00.000I mean, you're telling people this is going to help them.
00:22:02.000You're telling people that this is going to protect them from getting sicknesses or acute infections that then cause long term chronic health issues.
00:22:12.000I did want to touch on real quick with you vaccines and pregnancy.
00:22:17.000We haven't really talked about this much today.
00:22:20.000But I am curious, I mean, because now most pregnant women will get the flu vaccine.
00:24:50.000Please give us any final thoughts and let us know where we can find your information.
00:24:54.000Well, one of the most important things that you can do is to educate before you vaccinate.
00:24:58.000Just don't blindly lay your child on a table just as a sacrifice to the pharma gods.
00:25:04.000You know, it's when you get pregnant, God gives you two gifts.
00:25:08.000And the first gift is that you got pregnant.
00:25:11.000And particularly now with the fertility rates dropping all across the world,
00:25:14.000the first gift is that you got pregnant.
00:25:16.000The second gift is you have anywhere from three to six months to get ready to take care of this new little life that God has gifted you with.
00:25:24.000You need to learn about breastfeeding versus bottle feeding.
00:25:26.000Learn about cloth diapers compared to, you know, synthetic diapers.
00:25:30.000And most importantly, you need to learn about all these vaccines that they want to assault your baby with.
00:25:35.000They want to give your child three vaccines within hours after they're born.
00:25:39.000Hepatitis B, a vitamin K shot, which you really do need to research, and now a new RSV vaccine.
00:25:46.000And all of these, when you're making a decision about whether or not to vaccinate your children, it's a lifelong commitment.
00:25:53.000And I would say that parents who choose to not vaccinate isn't because they're irresponsible.
00:26:18.000It should not be at that point in time when you make that decision.
00:26:20.000You should be well armed and ready to make that decision, which could be a life altering and life changing event to that baby before they're born.
00:30:18.000Mark, I actually wanted to talk a little bit about how you got involved in Maha, as we call it.
00:30:24.000So, I mean, the origin story goes back a little while for me.
00:30:29.000So, probably 15 or more years ago, I fell down the rabbit hole of looking at the JFK assassination.
00:30:38.000And then I spent years reading up on that and a whole bunch of other deep state crimes and ended up re-educating myself about how the world works, what had gone on with our government.
00:30:49.000And through that, I learned to interpret the media in different ways and I learned to see what a PSYOP was.
00:30:57.000So, when COVID hit, I saw pretty clearly it was a PSYOP from the beginning.
00:31:02.000But the censorship was very good and I didn't really understand the deeper story.
00:31:09.000But then, after about a year or so, I started learning more and I realized the depth of the corruption.
00:31:18.000And I wanted to help fight the pharma side of the deep state.
00:31:23.000And so, I asked around and people said, you have to talk to CHD.
00:31:27.000So, I met the good folks at CHD and that's what kind of brought me into the movement.
00:32:06.000So, like I said, I'm relatively new to the health freedom movement.
00:32:09.000I mean, there are people here at this conference who have been working on this for decades.
00:32:16.000But as someone who is somewhat new, I think I bring a perspective that's a little different because people in the Maha movement tend to talk around the issues of vaccine injuries.
00:33:16.000And so, I was, by looking at the vaxxed-unvaxxed studies that are out there, was able to calculate that 70% of the epidemic of childhood disease is vaccine injury.
00:33:33.000And that 40% of all kids in America are vaccine-injured with a chronic condition.
00:33:55.000That's 1.4 million children injured each year.
00:33:59.000I mean, this is the largest scandal in American history.
00:34:03.000Even people in the Maha movement, a lot of them don't realize how huge it is.
00:34:09.000And also, I mean, it's hard to find much that's good about this, but one of the nice things is that it actually makes it relatively easy to cut by two-thirds the amount of chronic disease in this country because you just have to stop giving kids vaccines.
00:34:31.000If you were to do that, you could stop poisoning 1.4 million kids a year.
00:34:37.000And I think that's an important message that people need to understand that just the sheer size of it is something very few people understand.
00:34:46.000And I think that's a message that's worth communicating.
00:34:58.000I actually had a history teacher or a government teacher who allowed me to have an entire classroom period where I could present my ideas and argue with the class.
00:35:10.000But if you're willing to stand up and say something so bold as to what Sherry Tenpenny, who just was Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, just said, who is a medical doctor, she's retired now, she said that she doesn't believe that anyone can receive any vaccine without being injured to some degree.
00:35:26.000If you are bold enough to say that, then you also have to admit that that means that a lot of the American children and a lot of the citizens that, you know, are brothers and sisters, are mothers and fathers, you know, are children.
00:35:40.000That means that they're vaccine injured.
00:35:45.000I think I totally agree with you, but that very often that sentiment gets slipped through the cracks and quite frankly, ignored for the critics.
00:35:57.000I do want to address this, Mark, and perhaps put you on the spot a little bit, which is that what would you say to The New York Times or, you know, one of these big, big news media outlets that would say, well, well, Mark, if you stop vaccinating all these kids,
00:36:14.000aren't you going to bring back polio, aren't you going to bring back communicable diseases?
00:36:21.000I mean, so vaccines, some of them do have trivial benefits.
00:36:28.000And the public health establishment has put a lot of energy into scaring people about communicable diseases.
00:36:37.000But most of these diseases are not very serious.
00:36:40.000And they, somebody with a healthy immune system can fight them off in a matter of days or weeks.
00:36:49.000The measles, you know, when I was a kid, just not a big deal.
00:36:53.000I mean, you know, mumps, not a big deal.
00:36:55.000If you go back 150 years, you, I mean, these diseases, you know, killed a lot of people.
00:37:05.000But the thing that produced the breakthroughs in reductions in mortality was clean water and sanitation.
00:37:15.000Those, those, those innovations were enormous and did so much to improve the quality of human health.
00:37:24.000All of that happened well before the advent of vaccines.
00:37:28.000And, and so, but what you've had is that the vaccinators have taken credit for the good work that has been done by the people in sanitation and the people who built the, the water systems.
00:38:02.000They are not responsible for, for those advances.
00:38:06.000I don't want to say that, you know, vaccines, some of them do reduce your chance.
00:38:11.000Like the measles vaccines for a period of time will reduce your chance of getting the measles.
00:38:16.000It can also give you an asymptomatic infection where you don't know you have it and you can spread it unknowingly.
00:38:20.000Again, I'm not saying so, but there, I mean, I, I, I've spent a bunch of time researching this and I just started with the assumption that, you know, there was something to vaccines.
00:38:34.000I mean, it just, you know, why, you know, it's so widely accepted.
00:38:38.000And then as I started looking more and more, I could not believe the amount of fraud in vaccines.
00:38:45.000I mean, so basically the vaccine community out there is constantly lying and constantly stealing credit for other things.
00:38:54.000So, you know, one of the great accomplice, supposed accomplishment of vaccines is the reduction in paralytic polio.
00:39:00.000The outbreak of paralysis in children in a, in America in the 20th century was primarily due to pesticide poisonings, lead-based pesticide and DDT.
00:39:16.000There was a point in time where the FDA was telling parents it was okay to put DDT on their kids' lunches.
00:39:23.000And you can also imagine why the FDA was not anxious to admit that their advice was paralyzing kids.
00:39:31.000And the, the, I mean, so basically what we know.
00:39:36.000You can, sorry, not to interrupt, but you can also, this is well documented in the book, The Moth and the Iron Lung by Forrest Moretti.
00:40:38.000We're working on getting them on social media where you can get those bite sized pieces of information out there to the public instead of telling them to read a book or watch an hour long video.
00:40:48.000And at the Maha Institute every month they're having roundtables and arming the public with the right information.
00:40:56.000And also, quite frankly, you know, the last one was on the weaponization of science.
00:41:02.000It's about giving people access to information.
00:41:05.000We're not telling you what to believe or not.
00:41:07.000But, you know, if there's 15 scientific papers that say one thing and 15 scientific papers that say something else,
00:41:12.000we just believe that all those papers should get published if they're valid and not fraudulent.
00:41:18.000So I definitely want to leave on this note and talk a little bit about Maha Institute and some of the more broad overviews of what you guys are doing right now.
00:41:28.000Well, so we're a think tank that is supporting the Maha movement, and it's our mission to support and collaborate with the Maha supporters in government to help them be effective in their mission.
00:41:44.000Because the government health system is huge, it's rigid, it doesn't want to change.
00:41:51.000And a lot of people in the system are, you know, actively hostile to the Maha principles and honestly the health of the American people.
00:42:01.000And so we're, you know, we're fighting a giant corrupt system.
00:42:06.000And so we're providing, you know, very useful tactical advice and support for the people in government as they tackle the challenges of trying to reform this corrupt system.
00:42:18.000And I kind of like to say that folks like CHD are the defense and at Maha with the Institute, the PAC, the action is offense.
00:42:29.000I feel very honored to get to fight alongside all of you.
00:42:34.000And that's why I love the CHD conference happening right now, because I feel like it's this this intersection time that this should have happened a long time ago, but it's happening now.
00:42:45.000And, and, and we're keeping the fight moving forward.
00:42:48.000So, um, Mark Gorton, how can people find you?
00:42:51.000Um, I, I don't really have very much of a social media presence.
00:42:56.000Um, so you're too busy getting stuff done.
00:43:42.000And Trump sends out this, this tweet, which was quite remarkable.
00:43:46.000Um, he says, I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the hundreds of billions of dollars currently being sent to money sucking insurance companies.
00:43:58.000In order to save the bad healthcare provided by Obamacare be sent directly to the people so that they can purchase their own much better healthcare and have money left over.
00:44:12.000In other words, take from the big, bad insurance companies, give it to the people and terminate per dollar spent the worst healthcare anywhere in the world.
00:44:37.000Rick Scott from, uh, from, uh, Florida has immediately said that he's drafting legislation to make it so.
00:44:42.000Um, so this is a great step in the right direction.
00:44:46.000However, it occurred to me, if you get that money in your bank account now and you want to go out and buy health insurance with it or healthcare with it, you're going to face all sorts of throttles.
00:45:00.000Even if the money is redirected, you've got a serious problem at the level of finding good insurance that you can actually afford.
00:45:08.000That's not a complete robbery in itself.
00:45:10.000So, you know, while this is a great suggestion that unfortunately still bumps into the problem that we have a very constrained and throttled, uh, medical marketplace right now, uh, that excludes a lot of excellent providers.
00:45:25.000Uh, many of whom are at this event with alternative care, naturopathy, homeopathy, um, uh, direct primary care.
00:45:33.000Although the big, beautiful bill has some liberalizations that are very limited.
00:45:37.000So we need to blow up in this entire system, uh, and, and open it up to a genuine market forces that can elicit the talents of great men and women physicians to work directly with patients using their own money in an affordable way.
00:45:59.000Yeah, it's gotta be, but we need some focus on this, right?
00:46:01.000We don't have a lot of talk these days about the kinds of reforms we need because there hasn't really been a reason to talk about it until this tweet.