In this episode, Dr. Kevin McKernan and Dr. Jessica Rose discuss the dangers of DNA impurities in vaccines, genomics, and PCR, and how they affect our ability to protect ourselves from infectious diseases like Chlamydia and MERS.
00:00:53.000We're here at the Children's Health Events Conference.
00:00:56.000I'm a documentary filmmaker, and I've been really enjoying having some conversations with brilliant minds today.
00:01:02.000I'm about to be joined by scientist Kevin McKernan, who is going to be talking to us about genomics, DNA impurities, and the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
00:01:10.000But before I get started, actually, Jessica Rose, we had a discussion with her at an earlier date.
00:01:16.000You can look her up and get a little more context on her perspective of this topic.
00:01:21.000But Kevin, thank you so much for joining us.
00:01:25.000Okay, so before we get started, and then you say that you're in genomics, I need you to explain what genomics is.
00:01:33.000Okay, so it's a branch of molecular biology where we – so I worked on the Human Genome Project.
00:01:39.000We sequenced genomes and try to use that to better understand – well, in our case right now, our current company, we look for microbial contaminations on natural products.
00:01:48.000So if you go into the supplement market or you go into the cannabis market or even in the food market, all of that chain is tested for E. coli, salmonella, listeria, and you probably hear about outbreaks of that here and there throughout the news.
00:02:00.000So I've cut my teeth in the Human Genome Project many years ago doing this.
00:02:05.000I've built DNA sequencers and started several genomics companies.
00:02:09.000And so why – I guess what brings me to Children's Health Defense with all this is that I saw how they're misusing PCR tests during COVID.
00:02:19.000Well, we'll dive into that real quick, actually.
00:02:21.000So PCR tests, for those of you who do not know, were the way that the majority of testing in the United States on COVID was done behind the scenes.
00:02:30.000My sister actually was working at a lab called – actually, I don't know if I can say the name – but she was working at a lab in New Orleans doing PCR testing on different products.
00:02:41.000Can you explain as simply as you can what a PCR test is and why it might not be the best test for an active infection like COVID?
00:02:51.000So PCR is a wonderful tool for amplifying a piece of DNA or RNA that might be in a given sample.
00:02:56.000We use it all the time in the food industry and in the cannabis market.
00:03:00.000But what it doesn't do very well unless you combine it with some other techniques is tell you whether that organism is alive or dead because you can be at a crime scene and pick up dead DNA, right?
00:03:09.000And that can happen on – in foods in many cases where they might irradiate them or decontaminate them or sterilize them in some way.
00:03:17.000So the food industry knows this problem very well and this is why they demand whenever you're doing PCR that there's always a confirmation of the viability of the organism.
00:03:27.000They just were getting PCR signals and not assessing whether the virus was alive or dead.
00:03:32.000And we now know that people could be PCR positive for COVID for like 90 days but they're only infectious for nine days.
00:03:38.000So the vast majority of people they're running around running PCR on during COVID were people who were already recovered and so they were then quarantining people who you wanted in the herd.
00:03:47.000They were destroying herd immunity with PCR because they weren't using it appropriately.
00:03:50.000And I wrote a paper about that and got a lot of friends.
00:03:55.000That might have been your intro into Maha, which we're glad to have you in Maha.
00:04:00.000I remember one sentiment I heard a lot from a couple of different scientists and epidemiologists during COVID is that we weren't having an epidemic.
00:04:08.000We were having an epidemic of testing, which I think – I'd like to get your thoughts on that.
00:04:14.000Yeah, so here's the thing is that PCR can pick up live dead if you use the right tools.
00:04:21.000They just didn't want to do that because I think they wanted the presence of a pandemic or the appearance of a pandemic.
00:04:26.000So there are a variety of tools published out there to do live dead PCR where you can discern whether the RNA is inside of a viral capsid, if you will, or not.
00:04:37.000They wanted something where they could crank the PCR sensitivity up so high that whenever you had a positive, you'd then go test the rest of your household.
00:04:45.000That will give them five more tests, right?
00:04:47.000So there was a financial motivation for them to have very high positivity in PCR because it created an exponential return on investment, right?
00:04:54.000If I get one positive from you and every positive I get gives me five more because you live in a household, this spreads a return on investment exponentially or geometrically, right?
00:05:07.000They definitely were over-calling the pandemic with PCR and this also attributed to them labing a lot of other deaths as COVID deaths because PCR signals could be detected in hospitals and almost everybody, even if that wasn't the exact cause of death.
00:05:23.000Well, actually, I traveled the country on the CHD bus where we interviewed thousands of parents and victims of the COVID hospital protocols.
00:05:31.000And, you know, when the protocols weren't working, what do we do in medicine?
00:05:44.000There were a lot of really brave doctors like, you know, Dr. Pierre Corey, American frontline doctors who changed their protocols and saved a lot of people.
00:05:56.000But some of the stories we heard on the on the bus store were interesting that someone would go in for something completely different.
00:06:03.000But if they tested positive for COVID, were quarantined from their family, later put on a ventilator, when we know once you're put on a ventilator, your odds of surviving are much lower and consequently passed away.
00:06:14.000If you want to learn more about that, go to chd.tv and look up Vaxxed 3.
00:06:41.000So after I wrote that paper on PCR, people started sending me vials and I didn't have a good use for them and I didn't know who they came from.
00:06:49.000But one day when I needed an RNA for a particular experiment, I decided I'd grab a Pfizer and a Moderna vial and throw them into this experiment as a control to see if they'd come out.
00:06:58.000And they did come out, but they came out with other plasmids in there that no one was expecting to be there.
00:07:03.000So this is a background in the manufacturing process.
00:07:09.000Some would call it a process-related impurity, but it's really a contamination in my mind because they did not inform the regulators of certain sequences that were in there.
00:07:16.000And so this is a piece of DNA that's utilized to make the RNA.
00:07:21.000And if they were done correctly, all that DNA would be gone and you'd have pure RNA.
00:07:25.000In fact, that's what you were told on the label, that this is just an RNA shot.
00:07:28.000And you probably heard them tell you, it'll never integrate to your genome because it's only RNA.
00:07:37.000And yes, RNA can integrate into your genome with reverse transcription, but we won't go there.
00:07:41.000The real problem is if there's DNA there, it can definitely integrate because DNA is prone to integrate, particularly if it has some of these SV40 components.
00:07:49.000So the SV40 components are the Pfizer vaccine has them, Moderna does not.
00:07:54.000They have no business being in a vaccine because they are elements that allow that vaccine to replicate inside of mammalian hosts.
00:08:02.000And there's no reason for your vaccine to be replicating inside the patient.
00:08:06.000That's dangerous because it could shed and it could never turn off, if you will.
00:08:11.000So when we found that those components were there, we raised the alarm, we published some papers on this.
00:08:17.000They've since been replicated all over the world, finally peer reviewed in multiple places now.
00:08:22.000And there's a general acceptance now that, okay, we have vaccines now that are contaminated.
00:08:27.000The FDA is not doing anything about this.
00:08:29.000And they arguably are an exhibit of fraud because these components were not disclosed to anybody during the administration of the vaccines.
00:08:42.000When you say peer reviewed, I think a lot of people know what that means.
00:08:48.000But when we talk about this paper being replicated, also basically meaning that other scientists have tested Kevin's beliefs or his findings, not beliefs, has tested your findings and verified them to be true.
00:09:04.000I would love for you to touch on that and then also move on to the weaponization of science and how scientists like you come under attack.
00:09:13.000Oh, sure. So peer review is kind of a new – there's some sort of history to how peer review started.
00:09:20.000And if you want to learn about that, there's a great article that talks about Maxwell, Robert Maxwell, who's actually Ghislaine Maxwell's father, who really kicked off this church of peer review.
00:10:13.000But in terms of weaponization of science, yes, peer review is one of these things where, for some reason in the sciences, if you ever get a retraction, it's like a career-ending move, which it shouldn't be.
00:10:44.000If you are afraid to make a mistake and you get completely castigated and thrown aside if you make a mistake in science and it ends your career, who is going to venture outside of the norms and question things like Galileo did?
00:11:00.000We need to have an environment that encourages people to make mistakes and publish oftentimes papers that are risky and maybe someone will find a mistake in there.
00:11:07.000But you don't have to have a career-ending move just because you have typos and what have you, which is what it's turning into.
00:11:13.000When it comes into the pandemic took place, there are mobs that assembled online to run around and retract papers, not because they had errors in them, but because they were counter-narrative.
00:11:23.000They didn't say safe and effective in the opening sentence of a paper and they didn't say these vaccines are great.
00:11:28.000They saved millions of lives, but they might cause cancer.
00:11:31.000That's the kind of tone you're seeing in peer review right now is they all have to have this opening psalm that the vaccines save lives, but they cause cancer.
00:11:38.000No, it's greatly reduced, the mortality of diseases across, you know, this whole rhetoric.
00:11:59.000So the paper is really important because it highlights all the evidence behind what we believe is a fraudulent act that occurred at Pfizer.
00:12:06.000Now, for those who don't know, you need to read the rest of levies and the ACIP committee.
00:12:11.000He's got a very important paper in the BMJ with Josh Good scout that highlights that Pfizer actually did not give the same product to the public that they put to the clinical trial.
00:12:30.000They did the debate and switch and they switched to this other process where they made the DNA in a coli and that dramatically changes the DNA.
00:12:37.000It's got a lot more, it's got this SV40 stuff in it now and it's got methylated DNA.
00:12:41.000And there's, I can touch on why the methylation stuff is an issue, but it's a bit of a, that's a bit of a rabbit hole.
00:12:46.000Anyway, that, that excess DNA can trigger cancer pathways when it's in an LNP and gets, and gets put into cells.
00:12:52.000And that's, that's the concern we have is that this could be an oncogenic event that's occurred by having this contamination.
00:12:58.000Now, I think you wanted to segue from that into why, why is the paper so important in terms of proving that is that we demonstrate the numbers are over the limit.
00:13:10.000The FDA has a particular 10 nanogram limit.
00:13:41.000So, so now that we're using a lipid nanoparticle, the half-life of DNA needs to be remeasured.
00:13:45.000Like the 10 nanogram limit is a thousand fold too high.
00:13:48.000And the scientific community needs to prove that the limits that are currently in place for traditional vaccines, whether they're sufficiently adequate for what we're doing with lipid nanoparticles.
00:14:01.000We think it's much more dangerous now that you have lipid nanoparticles involved and that those limits need to be changed.
00:14:06.000The paper walks through all the reasoning on why is it over the limit?
00:14:10.000Why are the limits too high to begin with?
00:14:12.000And what are the cancer risks that are imposed by having these SV40 components that are inside the plasma vaccine or the Pfizer vaccine, which were never disclosed to the regulators?
00:14:20.000And the regulators have come out admitting they were deceived.
00:14:23.000At the children's health events conference where we are now there, they did a panel on turbo cancers.
00:14:30.000You guys should definitely go to CHD children's health events.org and look up this panel, learn more about turbo cancers.
00:14:38.000We also touched on that with Jessica Rose.
00:14:41.000You know, nobody is, especially this particular paper that you've written is not saying that this is causing cancer, but you also are asking the question, you know, should we be cautious about this?
00:14:54.000And that's why it's getting targeted for retraction is because they're not arguing about our details of what we found from the methods.
00:14:59.000They're arguing that we're making associations with cancer that are unproven, but we're very clear in the paper that we're speculating here that there are links to SV40 and cancer.
00:17:00.000When there isn't liability, there won't be regulations.
00:17:02.000So the paper is important because it shows what happens when you don't have liability in a process that the FDA is not going to monitor this and that it's going to become contaminated.
00:17:12.000And you're going to have components in there that could be a cancer risk that are undisclosed to the FDA and sneak right through and no one sees it until billions of people are injected.
00:17:23.000All right, you have to back up and recognize that now while there is some cancer going on.
00:17:27.000Right. We saw people speak about this. Right.
00:17:29.000This is a major attack surface, I think, on the evolution of humanity.
00:17:32.000Like if you let them inject the entire world with something that's this poorly tested, it could have killed off the entire species.
00:17:40.000Now, obviously, that didn't happen. I'm being hyperbolic.
00:17:43.000But you have to recognize that a liability free mandate like this where no one's looking at what's in it is a major.
00:17:51.000We cannot afford to be nonchalant. We cannot afford to have, you know, loose ends. Right.
00:17:57.000Because the cost of that is people dying. The cost of that is people being injured.
00:18:01.000The cost of that is people getting cancer.
00:18:03.000And it's at the end of the day, our lives that are affected by bureaucrats who are not ever held accountable is exactly right.
00:18:11.000If you have no accountability like this, this could be an extinction level event if it happens again and they have something more toxic than what we've what we found in this one.
00:18:17.000So this has to change. Like there has to be liability.
00:18:21.000They can't have mandates and we need to sequence every single vaccine that's ever been out, because now I don't believe in the purity of any of them.
00:18:28.000When I see what I found in this one that was apparently warp speed and had the biggest pharmaceutical companies involved, what's in all the other ones?
00:18:36.000Has anyone looked? I mean, there's no liability on those either.
00:18:39.000Well, I actually would like to touch on that. I made a documentary about fertility regulating vaccines in Africa, which sounds as horrible as it is.
00:18:50.000And also, it's something that I didn't want to be true.
00:18:53.000I think when I was working on the project, I was having a hard time admitting to myself that it was true, but I reviewed the papers.
00:19:00.000I mean, what happened in Kenya is that the World Health Organization, they deployed a neonatal tetanus program where they were targeting women of reproductive age, giving them five shots spread six months apart, which is identical to the research they did on a tetanus vaccine that was conjugated with HCG.
00:19:21.000So that means basically they took this tetanus toxoid, this tetanus toxin, they chemically binded it to human chorionic gonadotropin, which when a woman takes a pregnancy test, that's that first hormone that signals the baby's there.
00:19:36.000And so what that did was when they injected it into a woman, it would attack the HCG in her body and cause her to miscarry.
00:19:46.000And so they did this in many third world countries.
00:19:51.000This one particular country in Kenya, doctors on the ground sees the vials and they tested them in a lab.
00:20:30.000And I would say that that was intentional.
00:20:33.000I don't think that there is a way that you could say that's not intentional because there's no other program in the world that gives women five doses of tetanus shots spread six months apart, because that's not how immunity works.
00:20:44.000You're supposed to have it for up to 10 years.
00:20:47.000So, Kevin, I would love for you to watch that at some point.
00:20:50.000What can I say other than I'm not surprised anymore?
00:20:55.000And that's the weaponization of science.
00:20:58.000Earlier, we we interviewed a speller called Caden and his mother, Jen, and he is a non speaking autistic adults.
00:21:10.000But he communicated to us that one of his top priorities for autistic adults in America is biomedical interventions.
00:21:17.000And I was just chatting with biomedical interventions means instead of a behavioral therapy, when, you know, an autistic adult is having a meltdown and screaming and pulling at their head and, you know, having all these issues, they say, hey, this isn't behavior.
00:21:50.000So I spent five years in a clear laboratory sequencing kids with autism, epilepsy and mitochondrial disease.
00:21:55.000And that's when a lot of parents came to us asking, can you clean up the cannabis supply chain?
00:22:00.000We need to get CBD and we don't trust the vendors because the plants keep changing from Charlotte's Web to auto to, you know, you name it, ACDC.
00:22:08.000So the cannabis market as is being a bit of a black market, it's hard to track what they're actually getting CBD from.
00:22:14.000And sometimes when the strains change, you get different ratios of cannabinoids that come out of this.
00:22:20.000So it's very important to dial in on this because some of the kids will respond to CBD, some will respond to CBG, some controversially need THC.
00:22:28.000And from the information I hear from the physicians is while people may think that would get pediatric kids stoned, in the case of autism, they're not actually seeing that.
00:23:11.000It started at Harvard Med School and it's now been moving around the country each year to a different location.
00:23:16.000But the physicians there and all of their videos and their presentations are online for free.
00:23:21.000So if you have a child that's impacted, whether it be vaccine injury or autism, there's a wealth of information there to go through and figure out the different types of cannabinoids they're using for various types of epilepsy and autism.
00:23:35.000And they're having a remarkable success with patients like this.
00:23:39.000So I think the basis behind it is there's some type of neural inflammation going on.
00:23:44.000Yes, there can be some genetic predispositions, but that's not the driver.
00:24:05.000But the sequencing also taught us that most of these kids have some form of neural inflammation.
00:24:12.000And if you combine that with other toxins like Tylenol, which makes a toxic liver byproduct that you've probably heard about recently, NAPQ1.
00:24:20.000You know, Tylenol is an interesting story.
00:24:23.000When they outlawed cannabis, Tylenol got put in place.
00:25:23.000I feel like we're, we're just hitting the tip of the iceberg, you know, with president Trump's announcement about Tylenol.
00:25:28.000Um, I feel like there was a lot that got lost in the weeds, but one thing that, um, that we could take home from that is that, you know, HHS is taking this autism issue seriously.
00:25:44.000And that folate deficiencies and folate itself have a relationship in some way to autism.
00:25:51.000And I'm really excited to see what happens because I know that in my lifetime, we will see the end of the autism epidemic.
00:26:00.000We will know the cause, we will know how to prevent it, and we will get justice for those who have been hurt.
00:26:08.000Um, please, uh, give us any of your final thoughts.
00:26:10.000Well, uh, if I encourage people to look at, uh, if you're interested in the endocannabinoid system, I think go to CanMed or at least view those videos.
00:26:18.000Uh, there's a wealth of information there.
00:26:20.000Those physicians have been fighting this fight for 50 years.
00:26:22.000So they're the meme that you see of, you know, uh, the guy in the, in the, that's getting himself in a noose and is about to hang and the guy's going first time.
00:26:30.000Those are, those are cannabis physicians as they, as they march into this ivermectin mess.
00:26:34.000Um, there's been a war on drugs for a long time.
00:26:37.000Many of the drugs that they are attacking are in fact safer alternatives to what's out there.
00:26:41.000And, uh, you just have to educate yourself on them.
00:26:44.000There's some recreational issues that you have to be aware of and, and how to, um, mitigate those, but, uh, don't throw the baby out with bathwater in this.
00:26:50.000There's some very important natural, uh, medicines out there.
00:26:53.000And I think that's where we need to go in the Maha movement is, is get away from this addiction to synthetics and move back to the pharmacopeia that we pulled out of the forest and start categorizing this.
00:27:03.000And making that stuff safer and, and distribute it to physicians who are outside of the insurance industry and direct primary.
00:27:10.000Absolutely. Um, Kevin, we're going to make America healthy again.
00:27:13.000We are here at the children's health defense conference and children's health defense will not stop until that is accomplished.
00:27:20.000That is accomplished. So thank you so much, Kevin. And we'll be back to you guys after a break.
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00:31:54.000I'm here at the Children's Health Defense Conference.
00:31:56.000This is the moment of truth in Austin, Texas.
00:32:00.000RFK Jr. is sitting as the secretary of HHS.
00:32:04.000We have a president in office who appears to be listening to us.
00:32:07.000But that will not stop and really change what we do.
00:32:09.000We're going to keep doing what we've always done, which is fight for our children, those who have been injured by vaccines, and educate the public so that they can have informed consent.
00:32:20.000So I'm very proud to be sitting next to the president of Children's Health Defense, Mary Holland, and also our lovely Michael Caine.
00:32:31.000Mary, I want to talk about what has been happening today at the conference.
00:32:34.000Let's start with talking about the senators that spoke to us.
00:32:38.000Yeah, so it was another amazing day, our second day.
00:32:41.000And we had two senators appear this morning.
00:32:45.000Both of them wanted to be here in person.
00:32:47.000But because of votes related to the shutdown, they had to call in from D.C.
00:32:53.000So first we heard from Senator Rand Paul.
00:32:55.000He was talking in part about his book called Deception.
00:32:59.000And he has really done a great deep dive on what happened in China.
00:33:04.000What were the lies and corruption and cover up that led us to the ridiculous story that COVID came from a wet market.
00:33:11.000And then he moved from the cover up in China to the cover up in the United States.
00:33:15.000And because so much of the funding that went to gain of function research was frankly illegal and was tied up with Chinese research labs.
00:33:24.000There's been an enormous effort on cover up here.
00:33:27.000He let us know that he has attempted to bring Dr. Tony Fauci, former head of the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, to the Senate to testify on a voluntary basis.
00:33:39.000He can subpoena him, but he would prefer that he come in on a voluntary basis.
00:33:43.000It will be more difficult if he has to subpoena him.
00:33:46.000So they're in negotiations, he told us, which is really exciting.
00:33:50.000He really is the person more than anybody, I think, who's been trying to get to the bottom of what's happened at NIAID and what happened with COVID and the spread and who's really accountable and holding them accountable.
00:34:05.000And he told us that now that Secretary Kennedy is in office at HHS, he is starting to get access to a lot of the correspondence that went down.
00:34:15.000But he really articulated for us the reality of the deep state in hiding this information and the competition between these different agencies.
00:34:24.000But that this is this is really a real issue.
00:34:27.000And he's really dedicated to it. So that was great.
00:34:29.000He was followed by Senator Ron Johnson and truly the vaccine injured from COVID and from the childhood schedule have had no better champion in the Senate than Ron Johnson.
00:34:41.000And Ron Johnson talked about the hearings that he's had, about the briefings that he did, about his commitment to working for these people, asking us to help him get people to him who could testify about what happened during COVID and about vaccine injury generally.
00:34:57.000And so, you know, for us, Claire, who were so we have been so marginalized for so long, you know, we talk into the air and it goes nowhere for us to have two sitting senators, third term senators at our conference opening the second day.
00:35:13.000That's an incredible vote of confidence in what we do and the truth that we're telling.
00:35:21.000Absolutely. I mean, I mean, getting to see someone like Ron Johnson and Rand Paul contributing to the Children's Health Defense Conference.
00:35:28.000I mean, it says a lot about what CHD has been able to accomplish over the past few years.
00:35:32.000And also, I mean, both of them seemed very excited about what we're doing in the future, too.
00:35:37.000Yeah, I mean, they genuinely really regretted being here because they know that we support them and that we are supporting the work that they're doing.
00:36:25.000It's a gun for hire, often hired by the government.
00:36:29.000And so he walks us through the lies that they told around asbestos and talc, around Asian orange in the Vietnam War, around other industrial products where, you know, the Institute sides with the industry or with the government.
00:36:47.000And he walks us through the literally tragic comic documentation of transcripts from meetings that were held around what were they going to do around thimerosal.
00:36:59.000And he says, you know, the first thing on the first day is we're never going to say that that vaccines cause autism.
00:37:05.000We're never going to change the childhood vaccine schedule.
00:37:40.000But it's also a really serious book about the level of dishonesty that really pervades some of the highest scientific and medical institutions in the world.
00:38:08.000You know, right as RFK Junior went to sit as HHS secretary, the media started this whole campaign about as measles outbreak in Texas where supposedly three people died of measles.
00:38:22.000Well, we had one of the parents of one of those children who died and we had two, I think almost two or three doctors.
00:38:29.000Actually, I would actually like for you to talk a little bit about this measles panel that we had today, Michael.
00:39:13.000He was there talking about the experience, dealing with it and implementing proper protocols.
00:39:20.000At one point, he was even talking about it interfacing with the head of the CDC, Menares, who is no longer the head of the CDC now, about the protocols he was doing, about what was happening.
00:39:32.000You know, from cod liver oil, making sure these children were getting vitamin A, natural remedies that were helping.
00:39:39.000They also had Pierre Corey on the panel on a medical doctor, a critical care doctor who was able to analyze the medical records of the children alleged to have died of measles.
00:39:51.000And he says unequivocally, shockingly to him, they did not die of measles.
00:39:56.000They died of medical error and medical malpractice that disgusted him.
00:40:01.000He couldn't believe what he was reading and what he was saw, some basic, basic things that weren't done.
00:40:07.000Some of these hospitals were teaching hospitals, from what I understood as well.
00:40:10.000So, yeah, there's some really basic errors that were made.
00:40:13.000And would you be able to speak a little bit to Daisy, her father, the little girl who passed away?
00:40:20.000The dad talked a little bit about the discrimination that they had in the hospital, right, for being unvaccinated.
00:40:27.000Peter Hildebrandt was here with us and bravely got on the stage.
00:40:32.000His wife was here and was not comfortable getting on the stage.
00:40:36.000But she did come and, you know, support her husband and he's supporting her.
00:40:40.000And, yeah, he spoke to the discrimination that happened to them.
00:40:44.000He spoke to coming to the hospital one, two, three, four times for the same thing before being referred to a specialist.
00:40:53.000He talked about his daughter having thrush.
00:40:57.000Like when they looked in the throat, they saw that there was a white coating back there.
00:41:01.000And they said, oh, that looks like that's due to some sanitary problems that this child or the home might have.
00:41:07.000Like completely horrible diagnoses that made no sense.
00:41:11.000That seemed even I might even say classist, you know, definitely discriminatory.
00:41:16.000These these people, I mean, they're the salt of the earth. Right.
00:41:19.000I mean, when I was talking, you know, to Peter about him coming here, he apologized to me a couple of times.
00:41:25.000I helped him get here and make travel arrangements and such.
00:41:27.000He apologized for for actually saying to me, you know, I'm like really poor and I'm sorry.
00:41:32.000You know, I'm not able to to pay to get there and things like this.
00:41:36.000And I totally can see when you hear the whole narrative, how the hospital would just treat them as something they didn't need to care about, that they didn't need to worry about people who they would tell what to do and not inform and not engage them in the process.
00:41:53.000And this I mean, this and this happens to people regardless of their class or status, that doctors end up treating us just like a product.
00:42:01.000I have five minutes for you. We need to get this done. We need to move on.
00:42:04.000And tragically, that ended up resulting in the death of of at least two children misdiagnosed as being from measles.
00:42:14.000That's not what it was. It was medical error and it was malpractice.
00:42:17.000Yeah, this is actually a topic that CHG TV and Children's Health Defense Films covered in me.
00:42:37.000I mean, thousands of people, especially during the covid hospital protocols during during the, you know, the lockdowns that said that, you know, as soon as they found out that that that individual was unvaccinated, completely different tone.
00:42:50.000I mean, I mean, some people were told that they deserve to die for being unvaccinated.
00:42:54.000And I think that there was in Peter's original interview at CHG TV, which you can find, he did describe the mistreatment that they received.
00:43:04.000I mean, he even described this little girl, you know, who who is so weak because of this this issue of the medical malpractice that they had.
00:43:14.000And they're talking about her like she's already dead and she's sitting there.
00:43:17.000You know, I mean, there's really dark and very upsetting when it comes to this is what we're fighting for.
00:43:26.000Right. I mean, if you want to speak to that, Mary, we have two more minutes and we'll take a short break.
00:43:31.000But there's there's one thing I do want to add.
00:43:33.000There was there was another woman from the Mennonite community that came here named Tina.
00:43:37.000She's she's a leader in the community.
00:43:40.000You know, everybody really looks up to her.
00:43:43.000And to hear her heartfelt thank you to Children's Health Defense and to hear her just just on the brink of tears to talk about how important it is to educate people about what happened, to speak up about this, to show up when the most horrible things happen to your family and to your kid, to be able to have a community to rely on.
00:44:04.560And she was so appreciative of everything that Dr. Brian Hooker, Polly Tommy, Ben Edwards, Children's Health Defense, CHDTV, Pierre Corey, all of these things that our community did to stand with them.
00:44:17.560I mean, who would they have stood with if not for us?
00:44:20.560And lastly, I just want to say Secretary Kennedy, who came down there and treated them like humans who posed for photos with them, who went to the funeral.
00:44:46.560And Tina was kind of like the intermediary.
00:44:48.560And the outside world was trying to get in and characterize these people as backward and stupid and don't vaccinate their children and weird.
00:45:01.560And I think we humanized them and brought them on to CHD to tell their stories.
00:45:05.560These were wonderful people who love their children and they had suffered severe vaccine injury.
00:45:11.560That's the reason they didn't give their children these vaccines, because they'd seen the harms and they were doing this out of love for their children in their community.
00:45:19.560And so we saw these heroes like Dr. Ben Edwards, who is not a member of that community, but he made sure that they were treated with dignity and respect and good care.
00:45:29.560And I think we at Children's Health Defense wanted to honor that and honor this community for their choices that they are entitled to make.
00:45:36.560So informed consent, that's what it's all about.
00:45:39.560We're not going to judge anybody for what medical decision they make, but we want them to have the truth to rely on and we want them to have the right to a choice.
00:45:48.560This has been in many ways a historic weekend.
00:45:51.560I mean, the people that have come together and the momentum that we're feeling here that in my opinion, I have been in this for the past 10 years, but I have seen, you know, this snowball effect.
00:46:03.560And I think it's only going to grow. It's only going to get bigger. And you should join us.
00:46:07.560And I want to tell the guests how they can join us.
00:46:10.560I want to explain to them once again, who is CHD? What is CHD doing?
00:46:15.560Yeah, Claire, we want you and we're so grateful to Steve Bannon's War Room for letting us have this opportunity to extend our audience and to have you know about what we're doing.
00:46:27.560So we engage in four different areas, education, advocacy, science and litigation around one mission, and that is to end the epidemic of chronic childhood disease.
00:46:38.560Our country has over 50% of sick children with some kind of chronic condition, asthma, allergies, autism, ADHD, diabetes, cancer, awful diseases that children should not have.
00:46:51.560I love the saying of Secretary Kennedy, a healthy child has a thousand dreams, but a sick child has but one.
00:46:59.560We cannot afford as a country to have over 50% of our children have only one dream, which is to be healthy again.
00:47:06.560And so what our job is, is to reduce that back to maybe a level that we can't change or try to drive it to zero.
00:47:13.560We would love to be out of business in five to 10 years with chronic disease at under 10%.
00:47:19.560That's really where the starting point was in 1980s when we started to see this incredible rise.
00:47:25.560But we put out a daily newsletter, The Defender.
00:48:50.560Let's talk a little bit about that, how people can get involved in what you do.
00:48:53.560Yeah, I'm actually the director of advocacy at Children's Health Defense.
00:48:58.560And, you know, Steve Bannon often talks about this historic MAGA-MAHA alliance that just happened just in 2024, you know, with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Trump joining forces.
00:49:13.560A lot of medical freedom work is on the state level, and it will always continue to be.
00:49:17.560But now we have this federal opportunity where we can engage our federal elected representatives and senators, engage the executive branch.
00:49:27.560And so this is something where myself, Mary Holland, and all those other organizations that are doing great work, we're starting to look in that direction, too.
00:49:35.560What is the window of time that we have to make impact nationally on the federal level?
00:49:42.560There is the Grace Act, which Representative Stubbe in Florida has brought, which would guarantee at bare minimum the right to a religious exemption to vaccination.
00:49:55.560There are currently five states where you can't get a religious exemption to vaccination.
00:50:00.560California, New York, Maine, Connecticut, and West Virginia, where there's still a dispute.
00:50:05.560After these last elections, we just saw New Jersey and Virginia we are concerned about.
00:51:01.560Give us any final thoughts over the weekend.
00:51:03.560It's one of the most important things we do.
00:51:07.560And Michael's involved is creating a sense of community.
00:51:10.560Oftentimes, up until now, people have felt pretty alone.
00:51:13.560If you're the only person in your family who didn't go get a covid shot or who doesn't want to vaccinate your kids, you can feel like it's it's tough.
00:51:21.560And you can be sort of ostracized from your family.
00:51:24.560One of the amazing things that Children's Health Defense does is it helps to create that sense of community.
00:51:29.560It helps you to find other people who feel the same way you do, that they want to stand up for your rights to make your own decisions for yourself and your children.
00:51:36.560And so the conference is an important way to do that.
00:51:39.560The chapters are an important way to do that.
00:52:06.560There's one thing that was a little novel this weekend that I want to bring up.
00:52:10.560Last night, we had this really wonderful dinner where Russell Brand and Cheryl Hines came.
00:52:16.560And it was just so great to see from the comedy of Russell Brand.
00:52:21.560And just he did this thing where he just posed for photos for like an hour with everybody who was there getting business cards from people.
00:52:29.560And then he went up and he went through every business card and kind of made fun of everybody that was there and what was happening.
00:52:37.560And then he interviewed Cheryl Hines about her book, about her going on The View recently, about her defending Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of Health and Human Services, where everybody is saying he's not a doctor.
00:52:53.560And you know, Mary, it's just to see Cheryl Hines own progression in her own education and willing to now step out and come speak at a children's health defense event without Bobby Kennedy on her own.