Bannon's War Room - December 11, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 908： Slander And Pedophilia, Both Recieving The Same Sentence


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

155.83441

Word Count

8,097

Sentence Count

476

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

34


Summary

Stephen K. Vance and Frank W. Walker are joined by Jenny Holland to discuss Trump's peace plan for Ukraine, the rise of evangelicalism in university, and the growing influence of Pope John Paul III. They also discuss the latest in the Joey Barton and Jeremy Vine scandals and the scandalous comments made by a BBC commentator about female football commentators.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Would you tell us, please, what do you think about Trump's peace plan for Ukraine?
00:00:04.220 Do you think it's fair?
00:00:05.900 I'd rather not comment on it.
00:00:08.120 I haven't read the whole thing.
00:00:09.920 I think, unfortunately, some parts of it that I have seen make a huge change in what was
00:00:18.620 for many, many years a true alliance between Europe and the United States.
00:00:24.340 The remarks that are made about Europe, also in interviews recently, I think are trying
00:00:32.120 to break apart what I think needs to be a very important alliance today and in the future.
00:00:37.260 So it's a program that President Trump and his advisors put together.
00:00:42.780 He's the President of the United States that's the right to do that.
00:00:45.560 It has a number of things in it that I think, while perhaps many people in the United States
00:00:51.700 would be an agreement, I think many others will just see things in a different way.
00:00:58.060 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:01:02.960 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:01:08.200 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:01:12.460 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:01:14.380 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:15.800 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:01:18.480 It's going to happen.
00:01:19.540 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:01:23.160 Mega Media.
00:01:24.500 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:01:29.920 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:01:33.700 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:39.900 War Room.
00:01:40.900 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:01:43.340 Wednesday 10th of December, Anno Domini 2025.
00:01:54.360 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.
00:01:57.320 This is that feature that we do every Wednesday evening
00:02:00.780 when we dig down a little bit into the goings-on within Christianity,
00:02:05.940 both evangelicalism and also Catholicism,
00:02:08.620 and how they are affecting the culture and wider politics.
00:02:13.160 We've got something coming up, I think.
00:02:14.860 We'll do this straight away at the opening of the show
00:02:17.140 with Jenny Holland talking about the phenomenal revival
00:02:22.420 that seems to be taking place amongst the young in university.
00:02:27.240 Before that, I just want to draw your attention
00:02:28.840 to what we had in the cold open there.
00:02:30.460 We'll be coming to that with Frank Walker a little later on in the show.
00:02:33.920 That's really important.
00:02:35.240 That's the man widely acclaimed by, I think,
00:02:39.080 1.2 billion people on the planet as a pope, as a successor,
00:02:44.020 to St. Peter clearly stepping up his agitation
00:02:47.920 against the Trump administration
00:02:50.460 as the Trump administration starts to double down
00:02:54.360 and fulfil what, I think, 83 million Americans have voted for,
00:02:59.740 specifically with regard to tightening of borders.
00:03:03.100 We'll go into that a little more with Frank Walker.
00:03:05.300 Let's bring both of you onto the show right now.
00:03:08.360 Jenny Holland, Frank Walker, nice to see you back.
00:03:12.020 Frank, especially you.
00:03:13.020 You've been in our prayers after your injury.
00:03:17.240 I hope you've learned your lesson, Frank Walker.
00:03:19.340 I have always maintained that exercise is very damaging for the health
00:03:25.840 and should be left to the professionals.
00:03:30.720 I hope you've learned your lesson.
00:03:34.100 Yes, I hope.
00:03:34.760 Folks, don't get me wrong.
00:03:37.640 I do do exercise.
00:03:39.140 I'm quite regular at exercise.
00:03:40.900 This is my exercise that I do quite regularly every day.
00:03:46.980 In an hour's time when we finish taping this show,
00:03:49.920 I should do a few reps of practising my bicepual development.
00:04:01.260 Frank, I suggest you limit yourself to the same.
00:04:04.960 I still follow your advice.
00:04:07.700 Jenny, you've been doing equally dangerous pursuits today.
00:04:13.940 You're on the BBC in the UK.
00:04:15.780 Tell us about that.
00:04:17.240 I was, yeah.
00:04:18.140 So I was on BBC Northern Ireland's lunchtime radio show called Talk Back
00:04:22.420 because a British footballer, a famous retired footballer by the name of Joey Barton,
00:04:29.160 was sentenced this week to six months' imprisonment for mean tweets.
00:04:34.580 The sentence was suspended for 18 months by a court in Liverpool.
00:04:38.900 It was a jury trial.
00:04:40.080 He was found guilty by a jury of his peers, apparently.
00:04:45.140 But the tweets in question were accusing a female football commentator,
00:04:50.420 two female football commentators, for being bad at their jobs,
00:04:54.300 one of being a DEI hire,
00:04:55.980 and also making jokes that were obviously sort of hyperbolic and silly,
00:05:01.660 comparing these two women to serial killers Fred and Rosemary West.
00:05:06.220 And he also accused or he also called the very famous radio presenter Jeremy Vine a bike nonce,
00:05:14.180 meaning, you know, it's an insult that refers to a pedophile.
00:05:17.420 But, you know, these, again, these are hurdy words.
00:05:21.420 The man was sentenced to six months in prison.
00:05:24.060 The judge's remarks were shocking and appalling.
00:05:27.800 And interestingly enough,
00:05:29.820 the same judge that sentenced him to six months, 18 months suspended in 2023,
00:05:35.220 sentenced an actual pedophile who pled guilty to possessing sexual abuse images of girls aged 3 to 10
00:05:42.580 to the same sentence, six months in prison, 18 months suspended.
00:05:47.160 So there you go.
00:05:48.180 That's the UK for you.
00:05:50.960 Right.
00:05:52.600 And later on in the show, Jenny, you're going to, you've got two plum stories.
00:05:57.280 I think both on the Daily Telegraph of exactly how bad it is in sort of third rate, third world communist.
00:06:05.220 Can I say, hold it, are we allowed to say that now that President Trump has baptised the word for suitable public consumption?
00:06:14.820 But those are two horror stories.
00:06:16.120 We'll have those after the break.
00:06:18.400 So let's start the show with some good news, which is always nice.
00:06:22.720 And then we'll, as we're doing the good news with Jenny,
00:06:26.040 Frank can be sharpening his blade to stick it firmly in the back of a hashtag not my Pope.
00:06:35.320 Jenny, so let's go to the Washington Post of all newspapers.
00:06:38.800 You are basically a resident expert now on recounting for us all these developments that are taking place on the also largely evangelical revival following Charlie Kirk's brutal public martyrdom.
00:06:55.920 And we said right off, you know, the war room is a real America's voice of very, very clear about this right from the beginning, that there is going to be a revival.
00:07:05.640 The story here in the in Washington Post actually refers to that to some extent.
00:07:10.860 Tell us what the situation is here amongst university goers.
00:07:16.540 Yeah, I mean, this is I've become your resident expert in good news.
00:07:22.620 I'm always getting the good news stories.
00:07:25.120 The so the Washington Post of all places is reporting from a series of a group of different universities.
00:07:31.520 The same thing that we've been seeing reported in the New York Post and the free press from San Francisco to New York, even to the UK, all over among Gen Z, an increase in religious belief.
00:07:48.120 This article, like most of the others, is very clearly stating that these people, these young people are looking for meaning and community.
00:07:59.380 This is what is driving them into the arms of God, quite literally.
00:08:04.740 The article itself is sort of a little bit all over the place.
00:08:07.980 It does mention a Pew poll that states or claims that actually religious belief is going down among 18 to 24 year olds, but also a Gallup poll that says otherwise.
00:08:21.120 But really, the main takeaways here are there is a surge in belief, not just in Christianity.
00:08:26.320 They do mention things like wicked beliefs and stuff like that.
00:08:30.080 But the schools that people were interviewed at were Notre Dame, University of Maryland, an American university, at which one student said something very poignant.
00:08:39.360 And I think that really cuts to the heart of this, which is, he says, his generation.
00:08:43.300 Before you do, before you do the quote, I just want to wheel back on something you said, because that's extremely important.
00:08:52.860 OK, you mentioned that because these aren't contradictory.
00:08:56.660 What you said is that there's a falling away from religious identity, if you will, identification amongst the youth.
00:09:05.420 It was at the 18 to 24 bracket. But at the same time, and this is what I think is going to be important that I flag up for the War Room audience, is a growing intensification in faith of those that do go.
00:09:19.140 And especially those coming into the church for the first time.
00:09:22.880 Right at the beginning of this article, and I'll come to your quote in a moment, Jenny, right?
00:09:29.600 This is abs, this, the article, as you say, is all over the place, but it does touch on some very, quite well, on some, on some actual truths of the dynamics that we're covering here on the War Room.
00:09:41.840 Right, look, what is, so you have this, this, this dual opposing movement going on in the youth, falling away whole scale from religious identification, self-identification, but also a growing intensity.
00:09:57.780 At the beginning of this article, it actually mentions a number of case studies of specific individual and their stories.
00:10:05.920 And I just want to say that in one, the first example it gives, it says that this guy basically is doing Bible studies on Mondays and Thursdays at university, doing mass on Wednesday evenings.
00:10:22.180 And it says here that his dedication to his new faith, because he was a lapsed evangelical, his dedication to his new faith might put even the most devout Catholic to shame.
00:10:33.960 There is a tension, I think, and it's going to require some prudence that I don't believe the institutional church possesses on how to handle, you know, we said this on the show, we said it, Jenny, with you, we said it with Frank Walker, we said it with Liz Yore.
00:10:49.960 There is an opportunity here for the institutional churches on how it receives, especially young guys, young men, young 20-year-old kids, right, who are coming in and becoming incredibly intense in their approach to the faith.
00:11:03.280 And what are they going to see, right? They're going to see sort of Marxist, communist, if it's the Catholic Church, latent homosexual, and if it's evangelical, they're going to have the blue-pink hair brigade.
00:11:15.680 They're going to see this, and most of them are going to run a mile because it's not what they think that they're going to find.
00:11:21.400 So look, we'll come on to that later. Jenny, why don't you, because that's really important.
00:11:25.880 This is an epoch-wide opportunity for those who are interested in the promulgation of Christianity that is taking place right now.
00:11:35.560 It's an epoch-defining opportunity, and I don't think our institutional churches are prepared for it.
00:11:42.240 They're going to know how to handle it. In fact, I think they're actively going to try.
00:11:46.960 They're going to handle it so maladroitly they're going to offend people because they're going to say,
00:11:51.340 so you've come in because you've been following social media and you're interested in Christianity.
00:11:55.880 We're going to tell you what's Christianity, and it's basically asylum seeker, welcome, and what have you.
00:12:03.920 Jenny, go on please with your quote, because I didn't mean to interrupt you for so long.
00:12:08.160 No, that's fine. I think that's a very fair point, actually.
00:12:10.640 I think previous stories we've heard also mention similar things.
00:12:14.980 Children of lapsed, like in one case it was children of lapsed Catholics who had left because of sexual abuse scandals in the 80s and 90s,
00:12:22.720 and they were disgusted by that, are refining it because the children are going not through the elite sort of institutional hierarchy of the church.
00:12:30.900 I mean, my guess is, that was a guess, but my guess is a lot of these young men and women are finding it either through peers or through online,
00:12:39.780 I would say influencers, but I don't mean that in a denigrating way, other religious young people who portray the faith in a sort of sincere and true way
00:12:50.220 and aren't, let's quote unquote, corrupted by the hierarchical church politics.
00:12:56.500 And the reason they are looking out for this, the reason they're receptive to this at all in this intensely materialistic and materialist world that is full of sin, literally,
00:13:09.100 is because, as one young man said from American University, that his generation were test dummies for social media and internet.
00:13:20.820 And that is leading directly to, his words, a spiritual revolution.
00:13:25.400 So whilst there is so much horror, and these children have been used, or these young adults now,
00:13:30.700 but when they were children, they were used as test dummies, not just for social media and internet,
00:13:35.000 but for even more nefarious things like transgenderism and far left pornographic teachings in schools.
00:13:43.320 These children were experimented upon, essentially, in all of these ways.
00:13:48.360 The silver lining is that is leading directly, like I said earlier, to the arms of God.
00:13:54.760 And this is remarkable.
00:13:57.020 It gives me a huge amount of faith that even though there is very large obstacles still standing in the way,
00:14:05.100 very powerful obstacles in institutions almost across the board,
00:14:09.360 that there's something in the human spirit here that is irrepressible and cannot be cut off,
00:14:15.920 essentially, from a belief in a creator.
00:14:18.880 Jenny, let me just ask you this, before we move over to Frank Walker, let me ask you this,
00:14:25.900 because as you correctly say, you are a house resident expert on good news.
00:14:32.020 You're also a house resident expert on the transgender ideology that they're forcing down kids' throats
00:14:40.380 right from the four or five-year-old age all the way through.
00:14:44.260 Do you think, just give me a 10-second response to this question,
00:14:48.640 are we, this revival that we are seeing, right, and I think it's particularly led,
00:14:53.700 I think you're absolutely right, you are absolutely right,
00:14:57.000 that this is being driven on social media by influencers, primarily.
00:15:02.740 Do you think what we're seeing, specifically amongst 20-year-old guys,
00:15:09.180 this article, for example, it mentions this 20-year-old footballer,
00:15:12.960 former college footballer, who's in digging down and in sort of,
00:15:19.480 and trying to take his faith more seriously,
00:15:21.320 it explicitly says, quotes him as saying he was really searching for something more intense
00:15:26.280 with his prayer life and his search for the sacraments.
00:15:30.600 Do you think what we're seeing amongst 20-year-old guys,
00:15:33.540 amongst Generation Z here,
00:15:35.960 is a reaction against the transgender, woke ideology
00:15:42.080 that they've had for all of their school lives?
00:15:45.720 Yes, and that is across the board with young men.
00:15:49.380 In my own personal experience in the wild with dealing with people not online,
00:15:53.760 I see that all the time, young men are, as they say, based,
00:15:58.500 they are tired of being called racist, they are tired of being called toxic,
00:16:01.780 they are tired of being called violent, simply because they're boys,
00:16:06.000 they are sick and tired of it, and more importantly,
00:16:08.780 they don't believe it anymore, they know it's wrong,
00:16:12.540 and they live their lives accordingly,
00:16:14.240 they are rather unapologetic about it, I'm very happy to say,
00:16:18.440 and I think, specifically as regards to religion,
00:16:21.160 I think young men, we all need this, obviously, no matter age or sex,
00:16:26.500 but we all need challenge, but young men in particular
00:16:29.740 want the harder forms of devotion because they, most of all, need challenge,
00:16:37.840 and they've been denied, for example, rites of passage
00:16:40.780 and sort of rites initiation into manhood,
00:16:45.120 they've been denied all of these things their entire lives,
00:16:48.060 and they've been taught in this sort of like longhouse environment
00:16:51.140 where, you know, everything is about feelings,
00:16:54.340 and it's all very soft and touchy-feely,
00:16:56.480 but actually it's very sort of emotional blackmail
00:16:59.220 and emotional toxicity, and they're reacting against it.
00:17:02.340 This is what you would call saving,
00:17:05.260 this is what you put in the file cabinet drawer
00:17:08.940 of saving culture from itself.
00:17:11.400 Jenny, stay with us, we'll be back with you later on in the show.
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00:18:15.640 So at the beginning of the show,
00:18:17.140 we had the clip of
00:18:19.340 Leo XIV, inverted commas,
00:18:25.220 artistic name, stage name, Leo XIV.
00:18:27.860 Subtly, diplomatically, but still clearly
00:18:32.100 putting the knife in to the Trump administration.
00:18:36.200 And specifically, I would suggest
00:18:37.820 two things he would have had in mind
00:18:40.460 when he was referring to recent interviews.
00:18:42.340 The first will be the U.S. national security strategy,
00:18:45.420 which we've discussed,
00:18:46.840 that 33-page document, incredible document,
00:18:49.500 one of the best things I've read
00:18:50.820 since come out of the White House,
00:18:55.340 since President Trump descended
00:18:57.940 the golden escalator in 2015.
00:19:00.240 Superb document.
00:19:01.620 I strongly recommend everyone to read it
00:19:03.760 and share it with your friends.
00:19:05.920 Frank Walker, it's not pleased everybody.
00:19:09.040 Tell me what was,
00:19:10.940 because I know you picked up on this
00:19:12.420 on Canon 212 earlier on today.
00:19:14.840 Tell me, what is driving
00:19:18.460 Pope Leo this time around?
00:19:22.780 Because he's intensifying his attacks
00:19:24.880 against President Trump
00:19:26.260 and the administration, right?
00:19:28.840 Yeah, she is.
00:19:29.700 I wanted to read you with something
00:19:30.880 that he said at the Spanish Steps
00:19:32.500 on the Fese Immaculate Conception
00:19:33.940 just a couple of days ago.
00:19:36.040 He said,
00:19:36.660 After the holy doors,
00:19:37.880 may other doors now open
00:19:39.460 to homes and oases of peace,
00:19:41.480 where dignity can flourish once more,
00:19:43.940 where nonviolence can be taught
00:19:45.460 in the art of reconciliation.
00:19:47.000 That's the kind of thing
00:19:50.540 that Leo says
00:19:51.320 when he's talking to Catholics.
00:19:53.960 When you're a Catholic,
00:19:55.080 that's what you get from Leo.
00:19:56.000 That's meaningless.
00:19:57.080 You know, that kind of blather,
00:19:58.840 that could be just, you know,
00:20:00.260 anybody in the street,
00:20:01.800 I suppose,
00:20:02.580 that some crazy person
00:20:03.880 might say that.
00:20:04.520 What does that mean?
00:20:05.620 But when it comes to Trump,
00:20:07.940 Leo is very, very specific.
00:20:10.620 He knows exactly what it's like.
00:20:11.920 He's like,
00:20:12.140 oh, you know,
00:20:12.620 that's the creative strategy thing.
00:20:14.160 That's not going to work.
00:20:15.040 That's a really bad idea.
00:20:17.720 So Leo is very aggressive
00:20:20.860 when it comes to Trump.
00:20:21.740 And every Tuesday,
00:20:23.320 he makes these speeches.
00:20:24.840 And this one in particular
00:20:26.060 was about after his meeting
00:20:28.180 with Zelensky the same day.
00:20:30.540 And also after hearing
00:20:32.900 about the security strategy
00:20:34.040 and an interview at the Politico
00:20:35.600 where Trump said
00:20:36.600 some things about Europe
00:20:37.520 that Europe didn't know what to do.
00:20:39.120 They were weak
00:20:39.900 on immigration and everything.
00:20:42.660 He has to put his foot in
00:20:44.460 and step into it.
00:20:46.380 And it's just amazing to me.
00:20:47.900 And I think it's a sign
00:20:48.680 of the defensiveness
00:20:49.620 that he has to have
00:20:51.820 Zelensky over there
00:20:52.820 and the peace agreement
00:20:53.940 is going so well.
00:20:55.160 The security strategy comes out
00:20:56.820 and it's like
00:20:57.540 a new Monroe Doctrine.
00:20:59.400 It's a reform of Europe
00:21:01.020 is what it is.
00:21:02.240 And Leo,
00:21:03.100 who's supposed to be
00:21:04.180 the center,
00:21:05.320 the heart of Europe,
00:21:06.460 the heart of Christian Europe,
00:21:07.740 is all about NATO,
00:21:10.140 is all about the destruction.
00:21:12.320 The Leo of peace.
00:21:13.440 He talks about peace
00:21:14.320 all the time.
00:21:15.280 He wants more war.
00:21:17.560 He wants things
00:21:18.020 that will never work out.
00:21:19.680 He wants security guarantees
00:21:22.140 and ceasefires
00:21:23.060 and things that Zelensky wants.
00:21:24.900 You know,
00:21:25.400 incredibly,
00:21:26.960 he wants the overarching
00:21:28.240 agreements
00:21:30.180 and the tyrannies of Europe
00:21:31.980 to persist,
00:21:32.660 but he doesn't want
00:21:33.220 Europe's culture,
00:21:34.220 which is what you were
00:21:34.880 talking about,
00:21:35.660 which is the security strategy
00:21:37.080 he wants to recover
00:21:38.340 in Europe.
00:21:39.120 You put that really
00:21:43.980 very well right.
00:21:45.900 It's the vague
00:21:46.920 Catholic platitudes
00:21:48.460 for Catholics.
00:21:51.080 And when he's,
00:21:51.640 you know,
00:21:53.680 and when he's on
00:21:54.240 the political sphere,
00:21:56.240 it's,
00:21:56.620 he's making it
00:21:57.380 absolutely,
00:21:58.240 following on from
00:21:59.160 Bergoglio,
00:21:59.700 who is always the same,
00:22:01.280 Bergoglio,
00:22:01.840 you could never
00:22:02.240 pin him down
00:22:03.460 to,
00:22:04.400 on his ambiguities
00:22:05.920 and sort of force him
00:22:07.040 into clear
00:22:08.020 in your face
00:22:08.800 heresy
00:22:09.440 because his art
00:22:11.680 was lurking
00:22:12.940 in ambiguity,
00:22:13.900 but he'd be very clear
00:22:14.760 when he wanted to be
00:22:15.860 on the political thing.
00:22:17.040 This is,
00:22:17.360 this is,
00:22:17.820 this is our thesis,
00:22:18.880 right?
00:22:19.100 The Bergoglio 2.0.
00:22:20.700 Tell me this,
00:22:21.540 what happened to Leo
00:22:22.740 being the figure of unity?
00:22:25.960 Well,
00:22:26.580 you know,
00:22:27.440 Leo to me
00:22:28.500 is like
00:22:29.020 the neocon,
00:22:30.940 you know,
00:22:31.200 they say he's not
00:22:32.340 anything like a conservative,
00:22:33.620 but he's like a neocon.
00:22:34.860 A neocon is like
00:22:35.580 a Mike Pence,
00:22:36.600 somebody who'd do
00:22:37.080 everything to enable
00:22:38.180 the liberal side.
00:22:39.860 And that's why
00:22:40.500 we get the Trad Inc.
00:22:41.460 so,
00:22:41.780 you know,
00:22:41.980 coming out in front.
00:22:42.800 Leo met in this,
00:22:43.640 at this interview
00:22:44.800 last night
00:22:45.720 at Castle Gandolfo.
00:22:48.260 He,
00:22:48.660 he mentions
00:22:49.640 how he,
00:22:51.980 he,
00:22:52.280 he,
00:22:52.640 they say that
00:22:53.120 he didn't pray.
00:22:54.180 Trad Inc. said,
00:22:55.020 oh,
00:22:55.200 he didn't pray
00:22:55.780 the blue mosque
00:22:56.500 like Benedict.
00:22:57.400 He's better than Benedict.
00:22:58.740 He's better than
00:22:59.860 John,
00:23:00.340 John,
00:23:01.040 JP too,
00:23:01.700 because he didn't pray.
00:23:02.760 And Leo,
00:23:03.340 today he's like,
00:23:03.940 I prayed.
00:23:04.540 What are they talking about?
00:23:05.320 I could have prayed.
00:23:06.540 No problem.
00:23:07.320 See,
00:23:07.840 he's just there to fake
00:23:09.120 pretending to be conservative.
00:23:11.760 And when France,
00:23:12.580 Francis was kind of
00:23:13.980 two-sided
00:23:14.520 on this Ukrainian war.
00:23:16.460 Francis always kind of
00:23:17.720 stepped in
00:23:18.700 on behalf of Russia
00:23:19.900 once in a while.
00:23:21.060 Leo is all against Russia.
00:23:22.860 You'll notice in,
00:23:23.680 in that big meeting
00:23:24.900 between the Orthodox Church,
00:23:26.400 you know,
00:23:26.720 and all about Nicaea
00:23:28.000 and everything
00:23:28.620 that he did
00:23:29.100 just a week ago,
00:23:29.980 a bunch of Orthodox
00:23:31.980 people were there,
00:23:32.740 but the Russian
00:23:34.060 Orthodox Church
00:23:34.960 was not represented,
00:23:36.440 which is the vast majority
00:23:37.940 of Orthodox worshipers,
00:23:39.660 not Russia.
00:23:40.620 See,
00:23:40.920 Leo is like,
00:23:41.760 is like the,
00:23:42.360 the,
00:23:42.680 the neocon Pope.
00:23:44.080 He's,
00:23:44.600 he wants,
00:23:45.100 he's all about NATO.
00:23:46.760 He's all about more war.
00:23:48.500 He's against the peace plan
00:23:49.900 that Trump's trying to,
00:23:50.960 and the new security strategy.
00:23:52.560 And,
00:23:53.060 and he's against Russia.
00:23:54.320 He's following Europe
00:23:55.460 and being against Russia.
00:23:56.540 The Pope of Peace,
00:23:57.580 the Pope of Platitudes
00:23:59.100 is not really accomplishing
00:24:00.480 any of that.
00:24:00.840 He's more like the neocons.
00:24:02.320 And I think it's interesting
00:24:03.020 when they,
00:24:03.700 when they come out there,
00:24:04.260 he always says the same thing.
00:24:06.200 What do you have to say about this?
00:24:07.800 Well,
00:24:08.020 I don't really want to comment on it
00:24:09.480 and I haven't read the whole thing,
00:24:10.940 but I think that this destroying
00:24:13.360 the NATO alliance
00:24:14.080 is really terrible.
00:24:15.280 The next move,
00:24:16.280 what they're going to do
00:24:16.820 as this,
00:24:17.440 as this peace,
00:24:18.360 because it's well received
00:24:19.200 in Russia,
00:24:19.860 as this peace continues
00:24:21.420 to move forward
00:24:22.440 from Trump,
00:24:24.000 the Europe
00:24:24.740 and the,
00:24:25.560 and the left
00:24:26.220 on either side of the pond
00:24:27.240 are going to start
00:24:27.860 to make Trump look like
00:24:29.040 he's lost the war
00:24:30.260 and he's all pro-Russia.
00:24:32.480 And,
00:24:32.560 and Leo,
00:24:33.440 of course,
00:24:33.960 you know,
00:24:34.240 the vicar of Blather
00:24:35.060 is all for this cause,
00:24:36.880 just like on our side
00:24:37.900 in the United States,
00:24:38.720 he's fighting immigration
00:24:39.880 and he's fighting ICE
00:24:41.660 and he's fighting
00:24:42.700 what's happening
00:24:43.260 in Venezuela
00:24:43.900 and in the Caribbean.
00:24:46.700 He's just all about
00:24:47.640 the politics.
00:24:48.340 It's so aggressive.
00:24:49.560 It's amazing.
00:24:50.440 Very different from Francis
00:24:51.480 in that respect.
00:24:53.380 You call him
00:24:54.500 the vicar of Blather.
00:24:56.000 You know,
00:24:57.500 you know what I call this?
00:24:58.740 You know what I call
00:24:59.420 all this nonsense
00:25:00.220 that the post-conciliar
00:25:01.980 popes push out?
00:25:04.780 I call it papal bull.
00:25:09.760 Yeah.
00:25:10.500 That's a,
00:25:10.720 that's a,
00:25:11.280 that's a coined,
00:25:13.040 trademarked
00:25:13.700 Hanwellian term.
00:25:14.840 It's papal bull
00:25:15.760 and I would strongly urge
00:25:17.460 faithful Catholics
00:25:18.400 to pay no attention
00:25:19.780 to it whatsoever.
00:25:20.660 Just quickly on the Nicaea point,
00:25:22.100 you actually made,
00:25:22.740 I hadn't realised that.
00:25:24.680 The most important group
00:25:26.720 in Orthodoxy
00:25:28.180 is the Ruthen Orthodox Church.
00:25:29.840 Massively.
00:25:30.460 I think they've got like
00:25:31.320 a couple of hundred
00:25:32.360 actual sort of Orthodox
00:25:34.140 in,
00:25:34.840 in Istanbul,
00:25:35.900 right,
00:25:36.120 left over.
00:25:36.980 Right?
00:25:37.160 It's tiny.
00:25:38.420 I mean,
00:25:38.600 it's first amongst equals
00:25:40.140 Bartholomew,
00:25:41.400 but really he's got
00:25:42.140 zero followers.
00:25:43.380 The big,
00:25:44.320 like,
00:25:44.840 95%
00:25:46.980 of actual practising
00:25:48.840 Orthodoxy
00:25:49.500 is in Russia
00:25:50.020 and they're not involved
00:25:51.500 because of political reasons,
00:25:53.240 not of religious reasons.
00:25:54.620 It just shows you
00:25:55.640 how serious they are
00:25:57.260 about their,
00:25:58.380 their phony ecumenism,
00:25:59.800 right?
00:26:00.960 Yes.
00:26:01.580 Yes.
00:26:01.920 So then there's
00:26:02.420 tremendous growth
00:26:03.380 in the Russian Orthodox Church.
00:26:05.520 No,
00:26:06.020 he's a,
00:26:06.680 I call him a stunt pope.
00:26:08.300 He's a stunt pope.
00:26:09.420 He's there for political purposes
00:26:11.060 and,
00:26:12.040 you know,
00:26:12.680 this is becoming
00:26:13.500 a regular thing with him
00:26:14.580 and I think
00:26:15.060 the upside of it,
00:26:16.260 it's a real sign
00:26:17.380 of the advances
00:26:18.460 that Trump's making.
00:26:20.100 That he,
00:26:20.380 that he's,
00:26:20.760 that he's actually
00:26:21.700 pushing back
00:26:23.240 on things that,
00:26:24.380 that were,
00:26:25.120 you know,
00:26:25.460 have been there
00:26:26.060 for a long,
00:26:26.660 long time.
00:26:27.060 Like Leo mentions,
00:26:27.960 this alliance
00:26:28.600 has been going on
00:26:29.440 for a very long time.
00:26:30.700 How could he try
00:26:31.300 to undo it?
00:26:32.000 But really,
00:26:33.060 what Trump is,
00:26:33.780 is creating is,
00:26:35.080 and it dovetails
00:26:36.120 with what Jenny
00:26:36.780 was talking about,
00:26:37.920 a revival of,
00:26:38.840 of the Christian roots
00:26:39.760 of Europe
00:26:40.200 and the sovereignty
00:26:40.960 of the European people
00:26:42.200 on both sides
00:26:43.200 of the aisle
00:26:43.620 and a revival
00:26:44.560 of politics
00:26:45.720 what they call
00:26:46.580 Christian politics,
00:26:47.740 which,
00:26:48.080 you know,
00:26:48.460 from Turning Point USA
00:26:49.800 and the,
00:26:50.840 and the evangelicals
00:26:52.300 that Pete Hegsense
00:26:53.160 is working with
00:26:53.780 that we're going
00:26:54.040 to talk to
00:26:54.360 a little bit later
00:26:55.000 and moving
00:26:56.380 perhaps over
00:26:57.260 into Europe.
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00:31:29.340 Welcome back.
00:31:30.280 Well, one of the things
00:31:31.120 that was highlighted
00:31:31.880 in the U.S.
00:31:33.080 national security strategy
00:31:35.020 is the fact
00:31:36.140 that Europe
00:31:37.160 is going to make
00:31:37.760 a very poor ally
00:31:39.020 to the United States
00:31:41.000 if these demographic changes
00:31:42.860 continue to take place.
00:31:44.560 Already,
00:31:45.420 we see France's
00:31:46.960 foreign policy
00:31:47.960 pretty much dictated now
00:31:49.420 by its appeasement
00:31:50.660 towards the Islamic sphere.
00:31:52.760 And that's because
00:31:53.180 most of Paris
00:31:54.960 is now
00:31:57.500 of Muslim
00:31:58.940 extraction.
00:32:00.800 And France
00:32:01.400 has always been
00:32:02.340 driven
00:32:02.660 in a very particular way
00:32:03.980 by the
00:32:04.880 cultural dominance
00:32:06.780 of its capital
00:32:07.800 city.
00:32:09.720 So as a consequence
00:32:10.540 of that,
00:32:10.920 I thought we'd just
00:32:11.480 dig down on a couple
00:32:12.620 of two stories
00:32:13.380 that we actually
00:32:14.020 mentioned on the show
00:32:14.900 with Steve
00:32:15.380 last night,
00:32:16.500 both on the Daily Telegraph,
00:32:18.100 which indicate
00:32:19.040 indicate the degree
00:32:21.940 to which the UK
00:32:23.480 and this judiciary
00:32:24.700 is bowing down
00:32:26.140 and appeasing
00:32:27.180 the
00:32:27.980 pro-invasion
00:32:31.760 establishment.
00:32:33.200 Jenny,
00:32:33.580 let's start off
00:32:34.620 with this one
00:32:35.320 about the
00:32:36.480 teacher
00:32:37.520 who's been
00:32:38.560 sacked
00:32:39.220 or fired,
00:32:40.520 as Americans
00:32:41.420 say.
00:32:42.340 This teacher
00:32:42.700 has been fired,
00:32:43.500 the primary school
00:32:44.200 teacher,
00:32:44.640 fired because
00:32:45.960 he told
00:32:46.700 a Muslim
00:32:47.380 child
00:32:47.940 that Britain
00:32:49.320 is a Christian
00:32:50.140 country.
00:32:51.240 And I think
00:32:51.540 the police,
00:32:52.100 the Metropolitan
00:32:52.620 Police,
00:32:53.860 God bless them,
00:32:54.420 even opened
00:32:55.280 an inquiry,
00:32:57.180 a hate crime
00:32:58.040 inquiry
00:32:58.700 against him.
00:33:00.700 even though
00:33:02.280 the Church
00:33:03.120 of England
00:33:03.500 is the
00:33:04.180 established
00:33:04.680 church
00:33:05.220 of the
00:33:05.560 country.
00:33:06.860 That's right.
00:33:07.560 Prince Charles,
00:33:08.160 head of state,
00:33:09.360 head of the
00:33:09.780 Church of England,
00:33:10.700 it is,
00:33:11.640 at least officially,
00:33:12.800 a Christian
00:33:13.300 country.
00:33:14.020 That is the
00:33:14.620 official religion
00:33:15.440 of the nation.
00:33:17.180 Saying so
00:33:17.980 is now a hate
00:33:18.600 crime.
00:33:19.060 Tell us more.
00:33:21.320 Yeah,
00:33:21.880 it's actually,
00:33:22.440 I want to start
00:33:22.860 out by saying
00:33:23.420 that both of
00:33:24.000 the stories
00:33:24.380 I'm about to
00:33:24.880 discuss
00:33:25.300 are in the
00:33:26.840 news,
00:33:27.240 largely because
00:33:28.100 of Britain's
00:33:29.540 free speech
00:33:30.120 union.
00:33:30.700 which is a
00:33:31.360 grassroots
00:33:31.740 advocacy group
00:33:33.020 run by
00:33:34.080 former journalist
00:33:35.140 Toby Young
00:33:36.420 and a group
00:33:36.900 of other people.
00:33:37.620 And I am also
00:33:38.440 on the Northern
00:33:39.500 Irish Advisory
00:33:40.400 Committee for
00:33:40.960 that group.
00:33:42.360 And they
00:33:43.160 have been
00:33:43.600 indefatigable
00:33:44.360 in standing
00:33:44.860 up for
00:33:45.320 ordinary Britons
00:33:46.720 who are being
00:33:47.440 persecuted by
00:33:48.220 the state
00:33:48.600 for their
00:33:48.940 speech.
00:33:49.680 The teacher
00:33:50.140 in question
00:33:50.780 who wishes
00:33:51.800 to remain
00:33:52.340 anonymous
00:33:52.820 was in fact
00:33:53.960 fired,
00:33:54.400 like you said,
00:33:55.420 when he
00:33:56.240 chastised
00:33:57.020 or admonished
00:33:57.840 a group of
00:33:58.660 10-11
00:34:00.120 year olds,
00:34:01.420 so middle
00:34:01.940 schoolers,
00:34:02.640 late elementary
00:34:03.220 schoolers,
00:34:04.000 for washing
00:34:04.540 their feet
00:34:04.960 in the sink,
00:34:05.700 which is,
00:34:06.400 I suppose,
00:34:06.660 a Muslim
00:34:07.000 practice.
00:34:07.400 And he
00:34:07.840 told them
00:34:08.300 that it
00:34:08.600 was not
00:34:08.960 a religious
00:34:09.340 school
00:34:09.680 that they
00:34:09.920 were at,
00:34:10.760 that if
00:34:11.060 they wanted
00:34:11.360 to attend
00:34:11.960 a Muslim
00:34:12.960 Islamic
00:34:13.440 school,
00:34:13.900 there was
00:34:14.180 one nearby,
00:34:15.400 and that
00:34:16.200 in fact Britain
00:34:16.820 was a
00:34:17.360 Christian
00:34:17.600 country,
00:34:18.640 and that
00:34:19.860 King Charles,
00:34:20.720 like you
00:34:20.980 mentioned,
00:34:21.760 is the king
00:34:22.780 and the head
00:34:23.340 of the Church
00:34:23.800 of England.
00:34:24.620 For that,
00:34:25.040 he was sacked.
00:34:25.560 The children
00:34:25.940 said it
00:34:26.300 was upsetting.
00:34:26.920 They reported
00:34:27.380 him to the
00:34:27.920 authorities.
00:34:28.840 He was
00:34:29.380 investigated
00:34:30.120 by the
00:34:30.600 police
00:34:30.980 as a
00:34:33.240 criminal
00:34:33.460 matter.
00:34:35.180 And
00:34:35.280 interestingly,
00:34:36.080 it's not
00:34:36.440 just the
00:34:36.900 judiciary,
00:34:37.760 Ben,
00:34:37.960 and it's
00:34:38.360 not just
00:34:39.020 the higher
00:34:40.960 up elites.
00:34:42.080 We're also
00:34:42.720 talking about
00:34:43.440 a bureaucratic
00:34:44.240 apparatus that
00:34:45.000 is fully
00:34:45.360 weaponized against
00:34:46.360 freedom of
00:34:46.800 speech,
00:34:47.500 specifically,
00:34:48.360 actually,
00:34:48.840 almost exclusively,
00:34:50.260 when it's done
00:34:51.000 by white
00:34:51.680 working class
00:34:52.300 men.
00:34:53.440 This is a
00:34:54.080 campaign against
00:34:54.960 white working
00:34:56.040 class speech.
00:34:56.900 Let's be very
00:34:57.380 clear here,
00:34:58.280 because we also
00:34:58.860 see sort of
00:35:00.460 cultural
00:35:01.000 lovies and
00:35:02.720 media darlings
00:35:04.200 allowed to say
00:35:05.200 things like
00:35:05.880 F the IDF
00:35:06.880 and praise
00:35:07.840 Hezbollah,
00:35:08.880 but if a
00:35:09.380 teacher says
00:35:10.160 the king of
00:35:13.440 England is the
00:35:13.980 head of the
00:35:14.340 church,
00:35:14.960 he gets
00:35:15.320 fired.
00:35:16.320 So he was
00:35:17.160 not just
00:35:17.480 fired,
00:35:17.960 he was also
00:35:18.720 banned from
00:35:19.380 having any
00:35:20.000 contact with
00:35:20.580 children through
00:35:21.540 the safeguarding
00:35:22.380 apparatus.
00:35:23.560 So the
00:35:23.780 safeguarding
00:35:24.440 system was
00:35:25.320 set up after
00:35:25.980 this brutal
00:35:26.660 murder of
00:35:27.280 two young
00:35:27.720 girls by
00:35:28.700 an employee
00:35:29.320 in their
00:35:30.020 school,
00:35:30.660 and it's
00:35:31.120 meant to
00:35:31.700 weed out
00:35:32.140 predators,
00:35:33.220 violent,
00:35:33.880 sexual,
00:35:34.620 deviant
00:35:35.000 predators.
00:35:35.840 It is not
00:35:36.440 meant to be
00:35:36.980 used as a
00:35:37.400 political
00:35:37.680 cudgel.
00:35:38.460 But as
00:35:38.960 for this
00:35:39.240 teacher,
00:35:39.760 who had
00:35:40.320 to sue
00:35:40.900 to get
00:35:41.500 his rights
00:35:41.940 back to
00:35:42.820 then go
00:35:43.180 on to
00:35:43.480 teach again,
00:35:44.120 because if
00:35:44.440 you can't
00:35:44.840 get a
00:35:45.080 safeguarding
00:35:46.060 green light,
00:35:47.340 you cannot
00:35:47.760 have any
00:35:48.280 interaction
00:35:48.660 with children.
00:35:50.240 And thanks
00:35:50.580 in part to
00:35:51.180 the free
00:35:51.440 speech union,
00:35:51.940 he was
00:35:52.500 given his
00:35:53.020 rights back,
00:35:54.180 but he
00:35:55.100 was still
00:35:56.360 fired from
00:35:56.980 the school.
00:35:57.960 Now, there
00:35:58.420 was another
00:35:58.840 case in
00:35:59.620 Wales this
00:36:00.220 time of a
00:36:00.900 former Royal
00:36:02.260 Marine, so a
00:36:03.220 veteran, a
00:36:04.060 veteran of
00:36:04.800 combat called
00:36:06.420 Jamie Michaels,
00:36:07.240 and he was
00:36:08.620 charged and
00:36:11.900 tried and
00:36:13.100 acquitted in
00:36:13.960 17 minutes by
00:36:15.340 a jury of his
00:36:16.000 peers for a
00:36:17.540 video he made
00:36:18.300 after the
00:36:18.840 Southport
00:36:19.240 riots,
00:36:20.200 accusing some
00:36:21.380 migrants, some
00:36:22.120 illegal migrants
00:36:23.020 of being
00:36:23.380 scumbags.
00:36:24.100 And now
00:36:24.300 Southport, I'll
00:36:25.420 remind everyone,
00:36:26.580 was this
00:36:26.860 horrible case
00:36:27.560 where the
00:36:28.120 son of
00:36:28.600 Rwandan
00:36:29.240 refugees,
00:36:30.300 quote-unquote,
00:36:31.260 went on a
00:36:32.060 stabbing rampage
00:36:33.120 at a dance
00:36:34.000 class for
00:36:34.400 little girls.
00:36:35.560 And there
00:36:36.040 was a lot
00:36:36.360 of high
00:36:36.820 tension and
00:36:37.840 huge anger
00:36:39.320 in the
00:36:39.620 country after
00:36:40.160 that.
00:36:41.500 Even though
00:36:42.240 he was
00:36:42.540 acquitted of
00:36:43.060 a crime, the
00:36:44.440 local
00:36:45.520 safeguarding
00:36:46.100 authorities
00:36:46.480 through his
00:36:47.080 local town
00:36:47.720 council have
00:36:48.940 refused to
00:36:49.540 give him
00:36:50.080 his safeguarding
00:36:52.100 rights back,
00:36:53.300 his safeguarding
00:36:53.820 access back,
00:36:54.780 meaning, and
00:36:55.560 this is the
00:36:56.000 petty
00:36:56.360 cruelties of
00:36:57.840 the woke
00:36:58.380 bureaucrat
00:36:59.260 apparatchniks,
00:37:00.700 he has been
00:37:01.780 banned from
00:37:02.580 coaching his
00:37:03.360 daughter's
00:37:04.200 football.
00:37:05.860 Which, you
00:37:06.420 know, as a
00:37:07.580 football mom
00:37:08.100 myself, I
00:37:08.760 know how
00:37:09.180 dedicated those
00:37:09.920 coaches are and
00:37:10.700 how much time
00:37:11.280 they spend with
00:37:12.440 children,
00:37:12.840 because they
00:37:13.640 love the
00:37:14.040 sport and
00:37:14.500 they love
00:37:14.840 getting kids
00:37:15.440 out playing
00:37:16.100 on fields on
00:37:17.420 rainy Saturday
00:37:18.080 mornings.
00:37:18.600 It's not a
00:37:18.920 glamorous thing,
00:37:20.020 it's not a
00:37:20.760 high prestige
00:37:21.380 thing, but
00:37:22.360 it's something
00:37:22.880 men all over
00:37:23.820 these islands
00:37:24.420 do all the
00:37:25.220 time, except
00:37:26.040 for Jamie
00:37:26.500 Michaels, because
00:37:28.040 he's right
00:37:28.780 wing.
00:37:29.360 Now, Free
00:37:29.760 Speech Union, I
00:37:30.380 have to say,
00:37:31.220 have compiled a
00:37:32.200 dossier of
00:37:32.960 over 12
00:37:33.580 cases in
00:37:34.960 which
00:37:35.360 safeguarding
00:37:36.500 processes have
00:37:37.940 been found
00:37:38.960 to be
00:37:40.620 entirely
00:37:41.340 political,
00:37:41.980 political, i.e.
00:37:43.400 they are
00:37:43.980 going after
00:37:44.660 people with
00:37:45.360 right-wing
00:37:45.800 views and
00:37:46.400 blocking them
00:37:47.000 from accessing
00:37:47.660 volunteering or
00:37:48.800 work with
00:37:49.420 children because
00:37:51.140 of their
00:37:51.500 political views,
00:37:52.220 not because of
00:37:53.000 any actual
00:37:53.780 behaviors that
00:37:55.260 they might
00:37:55.660 have, and
00:37:57.200 hopefully this
00:37:58.100 will bring lots
00:37:59.020 of attention to
00:37:59.620 this, and
00:38:00.500 they'll have to
00:38:00.960 pull up and
00:38:02.580 call these people
00:38:03.380 to the carpet.
00:38:04.280 Because, again,
00:38:04.980 it's 100% the
00:38:06.480 same thing as we
00:38:07.240 said with the
00:38:07.640 schools.
00:38:07.940 In America,
00:38:08.980 it's this
00:38:09.400 bureaucratic
00:38:10.080 longhouse
00:38:10.680 procedure where
00:38:11.780 they humiliate
00:38:12.520 you and
00:38:12.960 they malign
00:38:13.500 you and
00:38:14.320 they try and
00:38:15.080 separate you
00:38:15.720 from the
00:38:16.240 things that
00:38:16.620 you enjoy
00:38:17.080 doing, and
00:38:18.880 it has to
00:38:19.540 end.
00:38:21.520 And let's
00:38:22.020 not forget
00:38:23.240 the role of
00:38:24.360 the police in
00:38:25.340 this, so in
00:38:26.220 terms of
00:38:27.060 backing up the
00:38:28.640 intimidation of
00:38:30.040 free speech with
00:38:30.860 the full powers,
00:38:32.080 the full
00:38:32.480 constabulary
00:38:33.080 powers of the
00:38:34.160 state, the
00:38:35.180 totalitarian state.
00:38:36.120 So in the
00:38:36.540 first case, the
00:38:38.160 case of the
00:38:38.800 primary school
00:38:39.320 teacher, the
00:38:40.180 police opened a
00:38:41.700 hate crime
00:38:42.780 investigation against
00:38:44.520 the teacher.
00:38:45.040 In the second
00:38:45.480 case, against
00:38:46.740 the Royal Marine,
00:38:48.300 they opened a
00:38:49.740 child abuse case
00:38:51.600 just because the
00:38:54.380 guy had posted a
00:38:55.560 couple of years
00:38:56.040 ago a somewhat
00:38:57.220 spicy video against
00:38:59.100 the invasion on
00:39:00.360 Facebook, banned
00:39:02.820 now from working
00:39:04.380 with children, as
00:39:05.480 you say, including
00:39:06.700 his daughter's
00:39:07.700 football team.
00:39:08.440 Yeah.
00:39:09.480 And I'd like to
00:39:10.020 reemphasize that the
00:39:11.040 video that he made
00:39:12.340 in which he used
00:39:13.140 sort of harsh
00:39:13.660 language was made
00:39:15.400 in reaction to the
00:39:16.720 ultimate example of
00:39:18.020 child abuse, which
00:39:19.260 was the hacking to
00:39:20.040 death of three
00:39:20.640 little girls.
00:39:21.620 So, you know,
00:39:22.120 again, it's
00:39:23.200 everything's relative
00:39:24.700 in this world.
00:39:25.820 You can be as
00:39:27.580 spicy as you like
00:39:28.600 if you are one of
00:39:31.420 the pet causes of
00:39:33.820 the elites, the
00:39:35.600 bureaucracies, the
00:39:36.620 apparatchniks.
00:39:37.760 But if you're just a
00:39:38.900 regular Joe Schmoe
00:39:40.420 trying to mind his
00:39:41.400 business and live his
00:39:42.280 life, then there's,
00:39:44.660 you know, a whole
00:39:45.380 everything you say is
00:39:47.140 a line, is a minefield.
00:39:49.740 And yes, you will very
00:39:51.320 likely have police come
00:39:52.520 to your door.
00:39:53.160 Don't forget that
00:39:55.980 when you opened the
00:39:58.280 show, talking about
00:39:59.320 your experience today
00:40:01.840 on the BBC and the
00:40:04.260 footballer's spicy
00:40:06.460 tweets, don't forget
00:40:07.740 folks, he got the
00:40:08.900 same prison sentence
00:40:09.880 for a few spicy
00:40:11.360 tweets as an actual
00:40:13.200 practicing paedophile.
00:40:15.020 That is the state of
00:40:16.620 the British state
00:40:17.800 right now.
00:40:18.700 Jenny, when we come
00:40:19.320 back to the end of the
00:40:20.040 show for social media,
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00:42:12.220 Okay, so as we hurdle
00:42:14.380 now towards the end of
00:42:16.380 the show, Frank
00:42:18.800 Walker, you're going to
00:42:19.500 tell us about an
00:42:20.920 interesting article in
00:42:22.200 The Guardian this week
00:42:23.700 which describes the
00:42:25.200 parallel between the
00:42:26.940 force that
00:42:28.040 evangelicalism is
00:42:29.840 having on US
00:42:30.760 politics now crossing
00:42:32.280 the Atlantic and
00:42:33.360 starting to have the
00:42:34.220 same effects here in
00:42:36.120 the Septed Isle.
00:42:37.120 Tell us more.
00:42:37.740 Well, you know, this
00:42:40.340 is kind of new to me.
00:42:42.500 UK politics, I'm
00:42:43.720 reading about it here,
00:42:45.040 is there a rise in
00:42:47.120 the religious right and
00:42:48.600 the Reform Party,
00:42:50.180 they mention some
00:42:50.740 people like Danny
00:42:51.420 Kruger, who's a head
00:42:52.500 of policy for the
00:42:53.460 Reform Party, and
00:42:54.980 James Orr, who's an
00:42:56.400 advisor to Nigel
00:42:57.300 Farage, are faithless,
00:43:01.020 they say devout, more
00:43:03.120 religious, and advocating
00:43:05.940 a more religious, more
00:43:07.200 Christian approach to
00:43:08.280 politics.
00:43:10.760 The thing that
00:43:11.780 strikes me about it is
00:43:12.840 that when you think of
00:43:13.640 evangelicals in the UK,
00:43:14.980 it isn't as strong of a
00:43:16.060 force, it isn't as big of
00:43:17.260 a force as the United
00:43:18.120 States, it's about 10%
00:43:20.300 what they call
00:43:20.940 evangelicals in the UK,
00:43:23.100 and they're actually not
00:43:25.340 really that conservative,
00:43:27.640 most of them, apparently
00:43:29.340 most of them vote for the
00:43:31.340 left, not so much for the
00:43:33.260 right, but there's, and
00:43:35.280 they mention also a Paul
00:43:36.780 Marshall, who runs GBTV and
00:43:39.080 the Spectator, conservative
00:43:40.400 outlets in the UK, they're
00:43:43.040 all advocating this new
00:43:44.720 kind of Christian politics,
00:43:46.760 and they're trying to build
00:43:48.500 from things like Turning
00:43:50.060 Point USA in the United
00:43:51.300 States, and what I noticed
00:43:53.940 in a piece that we looked at
00:43:55.660 here a couple months ago,
00:43:58.500 Pete Hegg says evangelical
00:43:59.880 groups are very much active in
00:44:01.680 politics and not apologetic about
00:44:04.280 it, they're just pushing
00:44:05.880 forward in it, and Tommy
00:44:08.160 Robinson comes up in this
00:44:09.420 piece here, Tommy Robinson
00:44:11.420 has been, he converted to
00:44:12.840 Christianity in prison, he's
00:44:14.160 the one that's advocated
00:44:15.260 against Islamization, and he's
00:44:18.540 advocating for this new
00:44:19.740 Christian politics, and their
00:44:21.160 protests and their
00:44:23.040 demonstrations are taking more
00:44:24.620 of a Christian attitude to
00:44:27.540 them, and I remember Nigel
00:44:28.780 Farage had the Reform Party,
00:44:30.580 was not so much against the
00:44:33.300 Islamization maybe a few
00:44:34.540 years ago, he's picking it up
00:44:36.160 more, and what the point of
00:44:37.960 this whole thing, of this
00:44:39.280 movement, is to sort of move
00:44:42.360 the two things together, the
00:44:43.800 movement against the
00:44:44.520 Islamization of the culture in
00:44:46.060 the UK, and also a pro-
00:44:49.020 Christian politics, as if
00:44:50.900 Christianity needs to fill the
00:44:52.540 gap.
00:44:52.840 Now this is something that
00:44:53.700 Hilaire Ballack, a hundred
00:44:54.760 years ago, and Chesterton said
00:44:56.900 in the Catholic writers, that
00:44:59.580 when Christianity falls and
00:45:02.660 disappears, like we're
00:45:03.460 watching it happen, Islam is
00:45:04.840 going to rise, so this is
00:45:06.260 not a new idea, but they're
00:45:09.700 thinking that they can
00:45:11.380 harness more of an effective
00:45:13.440 political message if they make
00:45:15.920 their anti-Islamization a
00:45:18.380 pro-Christian, and bringing
00:45:19.980 back the Christian, but the
00:45:20.640 thing is, where is that going
00:45:21.700 to come from, when it's
00:45:23.060 already such a subdued kind of
00:45:25.700 thing in the UK, and they
00:45:27.920 even mention here that people
00:45:29.960 in the UK don't even, they
00:45:30.980 vote for more social
00:45:31.940 conservative issues if they're
00:45:33.760 evangelicals, because they
00:45:34.760 don't figure anything that's
00:45:36.000 not social conservative isn't
00:45:37.160 going to have any traction
00:45:37.920 anyway, they're not going to
00:45:38.740 be able to deal with
00:45:40.200 anything else, so that doesn't
00:45:41.800 seem very positive, but I don't
00:45:44.940 think it's negative, I think
00:45:46.160 that they're pulling together
00:45:47.220 with the help of the United
00:45:48.060 States and people like J.D.
00:45:49.560 Vance, a real kind of
00:45:51.620 movement, and that organization
00:45:53.740 I think can be effective.
00:45:55.120 My question is, how are the
00:45:57.620 churches going to move in here
00:46:00.380 and continue to respond?
00:46:01.880 I think the trad movement, the
00:46:03.420 traditional Catholic movement,
00:46:05.400 which is, you know, is all
00:46:07.700 shackled by the church, needs to
00:46:10.120 be free and independent, and
00:46:12.240 needs to be more organized and
00:46:13.640 work together with these to try
00:46:15.380 to, you know, like Trump is
00:46:16.500 trying to do with his security
00:46:19.180 strategy, bring back Europe's
00:46:21.380 actual roots, because that's the
00:46:22.860 only thing that's going to solve
00:46:23.700 the problems that they have now.
00:46:25.120 Look, that is, I think, going to
00:46:30.320 be one of the factors that we see
00:46:31.880 that will dominate the next
00:46:33.060 generation of Christianity and
00:46:36.520 Christianity's relationship with
00:46:38.520 the political sphere.
00:46:40.400 This issue, this reaction against
00:46:43.160 Islam, driving people, and it's a
00:46:46.120 factor, I know, like, sort of, the
00:46:47.600 20-year-old guys, all the 20-year-old
00:46:49.360 guys I know who are on X are picking
00:46:53.340 this up and responding to it.
00:46:55.800 This, you know, this reaction
00:46:57.840 against Islam, you know, what is
00:47:00.340 more fundamentally, we can take a
00:47:02.000 step back from that and call it like
00:47:03.300 a search for meaning, because all
00:47:05.100 this, all the traditional searches
00:47:06.720 of self-identification have been
00:47:09.200 destroyed by the left through the
00:47:11.440 education system.
00:47:12.940 And kids these days, they have real,
00:47:15.800 no emotional attachment to anything
00:47:19.520 of the historical landmarks, cultural
00:47:22.680 landmarks.
00:47:23.540 They've all been destroyed.
00:47:24.720 They've all been discredited by the
00:47:26.880 left.
00:47:27.180 So kids are now reaching the age of 20.
00:47:29.980 They're at university, at college.
00:47:31.740 And obviously, this is starting to
00:47:35.280 kick in, that they have no real
00:47:37.780 attachment to anything.
00:47:39.340 And they're seeing the growth of
00:47:40.800 Islam.
00:47:41.380 They're experiencing it on the street.
00:47:44.640 And they're thinking, you know, this
00:47:45.680 isn't for me.
00:47:46.420 This is not my tradition.
00:47:49.980 But they don't necessarily, they're not
00:47:51.240 churched.
00:47:53.100 And whilst, as an opposition to Islam,
00:47:56.680 they're embracing Christianity, the
00:47:58.740 actual spiritual work, frankly, just
00:48:01.340 deluded to this, isn't going to be done
00:48:03.380 by the churches.
00:48:04.600 Because the churches have spent the
00:48:05.940 last 70 years denuding us actual
00:48:08.560 Christians from the Christian faith.
00:48:10.540 They're not going to take this, these
00:48:12.520 kids come in and say, oh, look, let's
00:48:14.540 open the Bible at page one and we'll
00:48:16.080 talk you through it.
00:48:16.920 Get your catechism of that.
00:48:18.440 Catechism of that.
00:48:19.140 We'll explain it to you.
00:48:20.560 No, no, no.
00:48:20.980 These people are in the business of
00:48:23.060 destroying that.
00:48:25.160 So, Frank, who's going to pick up the
00:48:27.080 slack?
00:48:27.680 It's going to be this, the laity.
00:48:29.500 I think they need political power
00:48:32.100 behind the church recovery.
00:48:34.600 There has to be some sort of power
00:48:36.240 behind bringing back the churches.
00:48:38.560 You know, I've been racking my brain.
00:48:40.560 How are we going to, you know, because
00:48:41.860 the Catholic church from the era of
00:48:44.220 Francis has been just completely
00:48:46.380 destroyed because it does not have any
00:48:48.060 political clout.
00:48:49.040 But this may be the entryway.
00:48:50.860 This may be the entryway to reform the
00:48:53.120 churches and getting the people behind
00:48:55.040 it, using the power of the political
00:48:56.520 power that you see so effective now in
00:48:58.860 the United States and bringing it over
00:49:00.900 and hitting that Leo church that is
00:49:03.940 Leo is evidence of this completely
00:49:05.780 screwed up church, this apolitical,
00:49:08.380 anti-Europe, anti-human thing that is
00:49:12.240 supposed to be the Catholic church.
00:49:13.460 Maybe through the angle of the
00:49:15.480 rejuvenation of young people and the
00:49:17.480 political recovery, the churches can
00:49:19.760 improve.
00:49:20.220 And I have to say, because this is one of
00:49:23.600 my personal motivations, right?
00:49:26.180 It's the, you know, the providential
00:49:29.800 reality, the existence of Canon 212, of
00:49:35.660 Chris Jackson out on Substack is doing
00:49:39.160 incredible work, of the war room, right?
00:49:42.920 Giving Catholics via these platforms a
00:49:47.100 greater sense of their agency so that they
00:49:49.600 can fill in and do the work of the
00:49:51.980 institutional churches aren't doing.
00:49:53.800 And that's really something that I push
00:49:54.960 constantly.
00:49:56.020 Fundamentally, at least within the
00:49:57.140 Catholic church, we, the laity, are
00:49:59.140 going to need to take the church back in
00:50:00.940 order to do this.
00:50:01.980 Frank Walker, Canon 212, where do people
00:50:04.300 go?
00:50:05.060 I can't recommend your work, your
00:50:07.880 apostolate more highly.
00:50:10.200 You are the Catholic church's, trad-Catholic
00:50:12.980 church's answer to Matt Brudge.
00:50:15.660 Where do people go to keep your updated in
00:50:19.040 real-time website?
00:50:24.660 Yeah, just type Canon 212.
00:50:25.780 Your aggregator.
00:50:27.040 And 212, up in the address bar, and you'll
00:50:31.000 see the daily updates in the right column
00:50:32.620 there.
00:50:32.960 You can see a video update of whatever
00:50:34.540 today's news is.
00:50:35.900 And on Twitter, you can see me at Canon 212
00:50:38.580 spelled out.
00:50:40.500 Also, at Gloria TV, at Gloria TV and Rumble is
00:50:43.160 also the video.
00:50:44.840 And the word I was searching for was an
00:50:47.060 aggregator.
00:50:47.920 That's what you are.
00:50:49.020 You're an aggregator.
00:50:50.080 And I can't, I can't compliment it enough.
00:50:52.440 Jenny Holland.
00:50:54.460 You can find me at JennyEHolland.substack.com.
00:50:59.140 The name is Saving Culture From Itself.
00:51:01.220 I also have a YouTube channel under that
00:51:03.160 same name.
00:51:04.320 And as you're asking about the Free Speech
00:51:06.480 Union, Ben, you can find them on X at
00:51:10.320 Speech Union, with a capital S and a capital
00:51:13.280 U.
00:51:13.620 And I suggest you do.
00:51:14.920 They're one of the best groups in the UK
00:51:16.740 at the moment, if not the best.
00:51:19.740 Superb.
00:51:20.220 Thanks, Jenny.
00:51:20.740 We'll see if we can get them on the show
00:51:22.200 sometime.
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00:51:55.460 God bless for now.
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