WarRoom Battleground EP 912： Three Giants： Falwell, Dobson, And Robertson
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Summary
James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson were giants in their day. They were leaders in their own right, but they were also giants in the culture at large. We need to go back to the days of their heyday in order to understand why they are so important.
Transcript
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Welcome for the second hour of the late afternoon, early evening edition of the War Room.
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I am very pleased we were able to put this together.
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The reason I put it together, and put it together quickly, I thought it was very important before,
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because there's going to be a bunch of big old fights over the Christmas season and then into New Year,
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about exactly where we stand and what we're trying to accomplish here.
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And I wanted to go back in time and point to another time that we had issues kind of like this,
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and people stepped into the breach and really had courage.
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So it's about three giants, Dobson, Falwell, and Robertson.
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You've been, you know, I know you love that institution.
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We've got Bill Federer, who's one of the best historians out there and a great Christian writer.
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However, why is this important we're doing this now?
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Why is it important to remember Dobson, Falwell, and Robertson?
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Because they come from, you know, the height of their game was the 70s, really the 80s, maybe into the 90s.
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Of course, all of them left institutions that lived beyond them.
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But why is it important for us today to understand why they are giants, sir?
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Yeah, well, I was watching your show earlier today, and it was the perfect setup.
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I mean, the men in this country and the muscularity of Americans is just down the tubes right now.
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The evangelicals used to have these strong men and leaders across the country.
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Today, we've still got a few powerhouses left, but it's a few.
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And so your news today, you've got Rachel Maddow mocking U.S. constitutional rights.
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You've got a beautiful young woman down in Georgia that just had acid thrown on her face.
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And it appears there's not enough masculine deterrence going on in Minnesota, across the world.
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The idea, right, this country has been very generous when it comes to human rights, right?
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The Christian tradition is the only tradition that came up, first of all, in the first place, with human rights in about the 1300s, thanks to you Catholics.
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And then we have achieved them fully with the United Nations.
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And the rest of the countries around the world do not have mature human rights systems.
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We protect their right to religion, to speech, to everything.
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And so Jerry Falwell, here's what he had to say to his critics on this kind of thing.
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And this has to do kind of with the founding and the initial rights we had.
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Here's how Falwell responded to his critics in 1980.
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I'm being accused of being controversial and political.
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Moral issues that have been made political, I still fight.
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It isn't my fault that they've made these moral issues political.
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But because they have done that, it doesn't stop the preachers of God from addressing them.
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So the left, we used to have rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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Now there's a right to everything under the sun.
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The left and the minority populations in this country are acting like they're the majority.
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The Islamic community right now, folks are coming over.
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Congresswoman, there's a couple of them out in Minnesota, et cetera.
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They're being very belligerent and acting not that they have minority rights protected, but that they want to rule with the majority.
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And that is not the system our founders set up.
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And so we need to return to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and James Dobson.
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And I'll just add one other little piece under education.
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Falwell, you know, now Liberty, we have a good K-12 system as well.
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But on education, Falwell saw the public schools, secular education in general, calling them breeding grounds, right, public education.
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This was back in the 70s and 80s, calling the public school systems breeding grounds for atheism, secularism, and humanism.
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Right now you see at Brown University and our elite university, they no longer believe in human rights that come from God, inalienable rights.
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And so the three leaders would never have put up with any of this.
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They're out at the ramparts yelling and screaming and preaching as prophetic voices.
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To Falwell, America had lost the blessing of God.
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Lost the blessing of God because the nation had turned from following the Almighty.
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Falwell said the ultimate blame for the nation's ills was not to be found in Washington, D.C.
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but the doorstep of apathetic Christians and in America's silent pulpits.
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And his prophetic voice could not be more timely.
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And, Bill, I want to get to your writings and your books in a moment.
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You know, you're one of the, I think, best writers around.
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And Brett and I really thank you for doing this and carving out the time that we've done
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America had basically come out of World War II as the only unscathed power.
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Obviously, China had lost 35 million people and was overrun by communism, part of which
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we turned over to the communists, our State Department at the time.
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Now, I'm a believer in the turnings, and you go through a fourth turning, but something
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That was where Dobson, Falwell, and Robertson came from, right?
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Because later in the 80s and the 90s, or really late 70s, 80s, and 90s, when they rose to power
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all three as national figures and built institutions that outlasted them, something drove that.
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What was it that drove these men, all three very different, on their path, not just their
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But then they made this really courageous decision that, I'm going to go into the public
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So World War II, we went a two-front war, and the socialists realized they can't defeat
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And so the Antonio Gramsci, the long march through the institutions, their goal is to
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And even Albert Herlong, a congressman from Florida, reads into the congressional record
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The 45 communist goals is destroy the churches, destroy the families, destroy marriage, destroy
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And so those three men, Pat Robertson and James Dobson and Jerry Falwell, realized and
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It's like they've introduced an autoimmune disease into the body politic, and we have this
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fighting going on inside, and it's over the morals.
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And so each one of them realized that they couldn't just live their life inside the four walls of
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the church, they had to impact the country, and they had to take the step and say, we have to
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Location, location, location were the three rules, right?
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Everything needs to be focused, because if we lose that, then all the gains that we've gotten
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could be wiped out, and we could just don't want to go down that road.
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We need to realize that these three men knew that Pat Robertson had a million viewers a
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day, and Jerry Falwell had, I think, 50 million, and James Dobson's radio program had 220 million
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And they realized that we can't just talk to them.
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You know, I was with Charlie Kirk four days before he was shot in Seoul, Korea, and they're
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interpreting his talk, and he goes, the first thing is to put Jesus first in everything you
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do, and then the second most important thing is to preserve the freedom to do the most important
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And if we don't get involved, we'll be sharing our faith from a prison cell.
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So the idea is that you just can't live your life and ignore what kind of country that
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And I knew, as you mentioned, all three of those personally, Pat Robertson, the best.
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I've been on the board of Regent University for the better part of 20 years, and now with
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But just to see that here's somebody that just, the Lord put the idea in his heart to
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Correct me if I'm wrong, because you knew about Dobson and Robertson started out as men
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His father was a very prominent senator, a powerhouse from the Commonwealth of Virginia,
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How did they, what was their calling first to the Lord?
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How did they even come into the business of dedicating their life to religion and to the
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And then we'll get to the next step of how then they took it out into the world.
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But, you know, Falwell was, although Falwell, I think Falwell's father was a bootlegger,
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These guys were not super holy as they were younger.
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They were men of the world, and then they got drawn to the, to the saved by Christ and
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Yeah, well, I think you're hitting it right on the head.
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Pat Robertson, probably around 1956, he sat for the law exam, the bar exam, and failed.
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And then after that, he met Harold Bredesen, and he was a Lutheran minister, pastoring in
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New York, a Reformed church, but he was charismatic.
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And the movement was sweeping through America at the time.
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If you saw the Jesus Revolution movie and Greg Lowry and the beginning of the Calvary
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Chapel movement, that was sort of this time with the guitar in churches and music.
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And so then the idea is to, he read through the Bible and not just reading it as a history
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book, which it has definitely history in it, but reading it as God speaking to me right
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And he would be confirmed by other different verses.
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Anyway, in 1960, he had the idea to buy a UHF TV station.
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And back then, UHF, you had your three big, ABC, NBC, and CBS, the UHF, you had to have
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those rabbit ears on top of your TV and put aluminum foil around them.
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And very few people, he didn't even have a TV when he bought this UHF station.
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And he just had this, the Lord spoke to his heart to do it, spent years doing fundraisers,
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And then, but then at one point he realized that we have to leverage this.
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And he started the CBN University that turned into Regent University.
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But this is an inspiration to us because he had $70 in his pocket when he first started it.
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That the idea is that you can take a little, you know, God told Moses, what do you have
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Instead of waiting, it's like it's availability, not ability.
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And so Pat was an inspiration and continues to be through the school with 11,000 students
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And now Michelle Bachman is the head of the School of Government and tremendous.
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When I, they go through all the accreditation and all of that, it's like they have a powerhouse
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And I do want to do a shout out to Liberty University.
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And Liberty University is absolutely tremendous.
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And I had the privilege of getting to know Jerry Falwell.
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And not as close, but he did have dinner with him a couple of times.
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And then James Dobson was focused on the family.
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But Jerry, if you take Dobson and Robertson, Jerry did take the path of being a preacher.
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I mean, I was a Catholic in Virginia as a kid, and that was almost like a mission territory.
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There was a lot in Norfolk, being a seaport town.
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But Falwell was legendary because he took, I think it was the Thomas Road Baptist Church.
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And he became legendary of having all these buses that brought people in.
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I mean, he really created the first megachurch.
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But he did that with the power of his gift from the pulpit.
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I mean, he was known as a brilliant preacher that just drew people to him to hear about the
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So he's the one that took probably the most traditional route, although all three of these
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But he actually started as a pastor and a preacher in his own church, correct?
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His goal was to knock on 100 doors a day, six days a week, and knock on every door in Lynchburg,
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So he personally was out there doing this, and he had the old-time gospel hour, and he
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But then when he started the moral majority, it was, you know, you had Jimmy Carter in the
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I mean, people forget, Iran used to be America's, almost America's biggest friend in the Middle
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I mean, the Shah loved America, but Jimmy Carter abandoned the Shah and let the Ayatollah
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So anytime you see Iran this, Iran, you know, funding Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis,
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And so Jerry Falwell campaigned, he put money into ads against Jimmy Carter, supporting Ronald
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And so Jerry Falwell is considered the one who delivered the evangelical vote for Reagan.
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And we had those eight wonderful years with Ronald Reagan, and America became a great nation
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And so, but there's the call out for us to, this is our turn.
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Um, hey, Dave Bratt, when, uh, when, uh, Reverend Falwell kind of started, why did he call it
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And then I think later the TV show, but the radio show became nationwide, uh, the old time
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Was there something missing in those years and those decades that he felt people needed
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Yeah, he, uh, he was just 100% in the Baptist tradition of the gospel is everything, right?
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John the Baptist, uh, coming in the old time, uh, repentance, uh, repent for the kingdom of
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He, he agreed with you and some of the tough folks these days.
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Uh, by the way, some of my good friends, uh, put together, put some of this stuff together
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Daryl Edwards down the hall and Susan Berenger both worked with Jerry senior, uh, personally
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Uh, but here, here's some of, uh, Jerry's, uh, titles for his sermons, uh, in chapters
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Can America survive the greatness of this nation, cleaning up America, our immoral society, America's
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moral issues, getting involved in turning the nation around.
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So this, this harkens back to the old time, you know, virtues and values of the founders
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America's sins in 1980, the Christian bill of rights.
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I love that contract with America kind of idea, changing America's morals, getting back
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And the moral majority, it's important to note, uh, in the pulpit, there was no compromise.
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It was a hundred percent Christian orthodoxy period.
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But when it came to the moral majority, it was everybody get on the, if you've got problems
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with the current morality going on, the depravity in this country, Protestants, Catholics, uh,
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Jewish, uh, Mormons, Pentecostals, et cetera, everybody welcome.
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If you've got a problem with the morality in this country.
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The left somehow has LBG, TQ, ABC, whatever it is, uh, aligned with Islamic leftism who
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And they're all on board attacking Christians these days.
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And so, uh, we, we need to get the band back together.
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Uncompromising as a preacher, uncompromising as he took that out across the nation with the
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But he named it the moral majority because his point was, there are majority of the people
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in this country that are moral, are seeking to be moral and have America be moral.
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It'll be on the right, but it'll be a big tent.
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We need to come together to take the country back, sir.
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The Continental Congress met in, um, September of, uh, 70, 74.
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And there was a motion to open with prayer and it was opposed by the delegate of Rutledge
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from South Carolina and a couple others because they were so divided in their religious sentiments
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And, uh, he said that there were, uh, Episcopalians or Anglicans and then Congregationalists and
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And one Catholic, uh, Charles Carroll Carrollton.
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And then Sam Adams stands up and he goes, I'm no bigot.
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I can hear a prayer of any man, a piety who at the same time is a patriot of our nation.
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It's like, look, we don't agree with everybody on everything.
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I mean, most guys don't agree with their wives on everything, but you love your wife.
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If we can all work together, we can save the country so that we can all have the freedom
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And, and that's what Jerry Falwell realized with the moral majority.
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That's what Pat Robertson realized with the Christian coalition.
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And, and James Dobson focused on the family and, and how he edged out, um, you know, he
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endorsed me when I ran for Congress and they said, now make sure you say this is James
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Dobson personally not focus on the family, uh, cause they didn't want to get focused
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But, uh, but he understood that they, I have to step out.
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We have to realize we have to impact the country.
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And here we are today with the midterms coming up.
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We have to realize that all of us need to work together and that the goal is to save the
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And then we can each get back to believing and promoting what are different views.
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But if we don't, they're going to outlaw all of our views.
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And it'll be like the communist China or North Korea.
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It was really the end of the sixties, the early seventies, and that kind of gap, uh,
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before Reagan, that, uh, all three of these, but particularly Robertson and Falwell at that
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This is, this is an inflection point for America.
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We're going to go one way or the other that in the, and they actually chose a side politically,
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They chose a side that the Republican party is imperfect as it was.
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And I remember somebody telling me one time that the biggest shock that came in the, the,
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um, uh, it was a consultant that told me that, um, that in the right after, um, Reagan had
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lost to Ford in 76, and then Carter had won that they started noticing coming to the Republican,
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uh, groups afterwards as they tried to re regroup and figure out how they're going to win.
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Uh, at these meetings, you started having what they said were the first time they saw really
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And that was, uh, right to life Catholics and these evangelicals who were not country club
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In fact, these people were not, if they were middle class, they were kind of the lower end
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And they were coming to kind of country club where you had the Phyllis Schlafly, you know,
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grassroots, but most of the Republican party was still country club.
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And all of a sudden these people came and the guy told me, he says, you know, these people
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They talked about something that we hadn't really talked about before, because the Republican
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party at that time was talking about civic culture and civic society.
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The evangelical right was hardcore, get back to the basics of the Bible.
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And the traditional Catholics, the right to life Catholics were hardcore about abortion
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But that group, right, was gave the foundation for the Reagan revolution.
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You wouldn't have had these big blowout wins, right?
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If you didn't have that beginning of a coalition coming together, that was something that greater
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That moment in the 70s is going to come down as one of the most important moments in the
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You know, in Europe, it was one denomination per country.
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But they don't realize that every colony in America was started by a different denomination.
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Massachusetts was Puritan, Rhode Island Baptist, Maryland Catholic.
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And so you literally had churches founding cities.
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And so Providence, Rhode Island was founded by the first congregational church.
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Hartford, Connecticut, rather, was founded by the first congregational church and Providence
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by the first Baptist church and Maryland by Catholics.
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And so everybody's involved in church and everybody's involved in politics because it's
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It wasn't until the 1700s with the Great Awakening revival that this movement came along that if
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you're really spiritual, you'll withdraw from worldly things, including government.
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And so it was the early 1700s, you get this idea, I'm more spiritual than you are because
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But in the 70s, they realized that we need to, you know, in reading American history, you
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have multiple decades where Protestants and Catholics were hitting each other in loggerheads,
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But in the 70s, we realized, wait, this has gone deep.
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Now, you know, when they first took prayer out of schools, it was Protestants and Catholics
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And they said, well, let's just not have it at all.
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And within just a short time, that vacuum was filled by all the sexual promiscuity and
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And so we're coming back trying to regain ground.
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We used to have saying, look, we need to make up.
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I was reading Washington when he was there, you know, Dorchester Heights and Boston and
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in the Harvard yard had some soldiers from Connecticut and they were going to do the annual
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And Washington said, guys, guys, we're not going to do that anymore.
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We have Catholics fighting with us against the British.
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But just like that, we have to work together to save the country.
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And that's what they realized in the 1970s with Pat Johnson and Jerry Falwell and James
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We're going to go through some of Bill's writings that I think people ought to be familiar
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And we're going to talk about how all three of these individuals left their institution
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builders and left institutions that live beyond them.
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Three giants who bound together to save the country.
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The Reagan revolution had as a backbone a deep religious underpinning, a religious underpinning
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that more than ever today that we really need to not just come to grips with, but basically
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reach out to and make sure we can motivate people to go for it.
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And it's where all the biggest voices in conservative media are speaking out.
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It's where I put up exclusively all of my content 24 hours a day.
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That would be Dobson, Falwell, and Pat Robertson.
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And these were three giants that saved the country back in the 1970s, 1980s.
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Federer, one of the reasons I wanted to have you on, you knew all three.
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My favorite, you've got a book on Islam and the Quran in the United States.
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Give me a minute on that book, and I want to talk to you about one of my other favorites.
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It goes through the 1,400-year history of Islam conquering all of North Africa, which
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Turkey used to be the Byzantine Christian Empire.
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He was a religious leader for 12 years in Mecca, only makes 70 converts.
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He goes to Medina, which was controlled by three Jewish clans.
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He goes into the minority neighborhoods, and he organizes a following, like a community
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And he gets involved in politics, and he pressures the Jews to a treaty.
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And then when his followers get chased out of Mecca, there's lots of Muslim immigrants.
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They come into Medina, and Muhammad allows him to rob the caravans headed back to Mecca.
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He even gets verses from Allah that Allah has given you the slave girls as your booty.
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And so he fights in 66 battles and raids, killing 3,000 people.
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And within five years of Muhammad coming into the Jewish city of Medina, there's not a Jew
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Go into the minority neighborhoods and build a following and get involved in politics.
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And then you have random outbreaks of violence, usually by young Muslim men, and the previous
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inhabitants of the neighborhood no longer feel safe.
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They move out, and they take over the neighborhood.
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And they do that neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, country by country.
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And there's a 1,400-year track record of how all Christianity was driven out of two continents
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I go through it from St. Thomas Aquinas, what he said about Islam, and John Wesley, and
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And so it's a fascinating book, Barbary, Pirate Wars.
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St. Augustine, St. Augustine was, St. Augustine was from, I think he was a Berber.
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The great fathers of the church, people forget that.
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It was deeply Christian, not just Christian, it was the fathers, the desert fathers, some
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of the fathers of the church, those first couple of centuries.
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It was really, it was very close to the infancy of the church.
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Another book you've got, I love it because it talks about the 16th century, kind of the
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predicate to the founding of the United States.
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And a lot of people don't, don't focus on this.
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Talk to me about this, because this is one of my, this is one of my favorite writings
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Yeah, you have Chinese emperors, Indian maharajas, Russian czars, African chieftains, Mongolian
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khans, and Muslim sultans, and kings of Spain, France, and Austria.
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And if you're friends with the king, you're more equal.
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And you had to believe the way your king tells you to believe, or you're killed.
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And so it gives a background of why the pilgrims came over.
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But I get into the details of it, how, you know, the king of France was captured by the
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king of Spain, and Francis I goes over and makes a treaty with the Ottomans, called the
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And so Spain can no longer defend North Africa, and the Muslims conquer it.
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One of the pilgrimships in 1625 was sent back to England with 800 pounds of beaver skins,
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and a Turkish man of war captures it in the English Channel, takes it to Morocco, sells the
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Uh, the Muslims in the 1600s captured an entire Irish village, Baltimore, Ireland, the stolen
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They even attacked Iceland and carried hundreds of way to Morocco.
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And so they even had to deal with the same things we're dealing with today.
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It gives you a new appreciation for the pilgrims.
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And how they came over and set up a government where it's bottom up, we the people, versus
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These people were as hard as boot leather, tough as boot leather.
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We're going to delve down more and make sure we put together maybe a conference because
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And we need people like this to step up and be the new giants to save our country today.
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Your thoughts about the, what were the common characteristics of these three men that led
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You know, I think Bill did a great job summarizing what the 70s were like.
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And just to give an overview again of the moral majority, there were four pieces to it, according
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to Jerry Sr., morality, America, pro-life, and family.
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And so the question is, how is this relevant today?
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And it's in contrast to Romans 1, where, you know, Paul writes, we sought to worship the
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And unfortunately, we don't teach any systems of thought anymore.
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All three of these figures were highly educated in the biblical worldview, and they saw exactly
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They were in a war with secularism, atheism, humanism, scientism.
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All of those are about worshiping humanity and not God.
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And if you play out what they saw back then in the 60s and 70s, you get today.
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When you look at the rough numbers of the evangelicals, contemporary evangelical broadcasts reach a
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Studies show more than 60% of American adults consume Christian media.
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Christian programming, total monthly reach, 90 million people, 36% of Christians, the radio, 43% TV.
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Hey, Joel, if you're listening, you got to toughen up here and bring the goods on what we're talking
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about here today because you have a huge reach, 20 million, Joel Osteen, a little too modern and soft.
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We need to harden and steal the backbones of all these preachers so they understand that this country is under attack.
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Your closing thoughts is we're going to have you back on.
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I think we're going to take each individual maybe over the Christmas season to break down.
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Because the Giants need to be understood what they stood for, why they stepped into the breach,
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why they put it all on the line, and quite frankly, they were victorious.
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They bridged us to where we are today for the fight that we've got today.
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Well, they realized that the battle is for the hearts and minds of the people in America,
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and so you had to use every way of communication.
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And so Pat used the UHF TV station, and then it branched into CBN and the 700 Club.
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But then he realized that you had to start a university to teach the kids, Regent University.
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And James Dobson, 220 million daily radio listeners.
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Today, the battle is for the hearts and minds of the country.
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And so we need to use all the modern technology to reach where the kids are at, where the young people are at.
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And your body's like a computer case, which makes it silly for people to argue over what color the computer case is.
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But the battle is who gets to load the software on the next generation's brains.
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And if we sit back, they're going to load all kinds of trans stuff and confusing stuff and mutilate these kids.
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And James Dobson and Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson understood the battle was for the mind.
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They were willing to take the criticism for it.
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And personally, it's only when you have a relationship with Jesus do you not care about what other people think.
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You know, Peter's around a fire, and the girl gets in his face and says, you were with Jesus.
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He realizes he's going to get kicked out of this group, and he denies Christ.
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But then after the resurrection, the Sanhedrin said, we told you not to speak in this name.
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And Peter said, it's better to obey God rather than men.
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There's something about that that you don't care about what people think anymore.
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They only cared about pleasing the Lord and saving the country.
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Bill Federer, where can people go to get your writings?
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I want people to become familiar with the pieces you put up, and particularly your books.
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And look at resources, and it's how we got here.
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So it's a seven- to ten-minute long video every week, how we got here.
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But TurningPointEd.com and then AmericanMinute.com.
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Dave Bratt, where do people go for your social media, your writings, your thoughts, and particularly your charts?
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And I just want to applaud Bill there, what we put in our minds.
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Christians still have 60 to 70 percent of the people, and 70 percent of our economy is the consumer.
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We got plenty of power, and it's up to the preachers to guide us rightly, and they're not.
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And so we're laying it at the feet of the preachers today, not the politicians, for a change.
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Well, the size of, before I go, the size of Liberty, and people have not been down either to Regent or to Liberty.
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The dynamism and the spirit you go when you go on campus is incredible.
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Because you've got this massive online to preach the gospel to the world and to teach people, right, higher education.
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Yep, 16,000 on campus, but 170,000 total students in our Liberty system, 20,000 K-12, 140,000 online across the world in every Hill office on Congress, the Senate, the White House under every secretary.
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When people get to know your books, I think maybe a good one to start is the one on Islam, so thank you, sir.
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Stepped into the breach when the country needed it.
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They still have to go the day even after Christmas up through New Year's.
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Well, I have some wonderful tips, actually, on hosting.
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If you are organising any social gathering over Christmas, what you want to make sure is to get the invitations out as soon as possible and include a date, time, dress code.
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Do include what time the party finishes so people know when to leave and if there's going to be hors d'oeuvres or a full meal so people can plan and know what to expect in advance.
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You can really have fun over the Christmas period with a black tie or it could be as simple as you like with a Christmas jumper, which is called Ugly Sweater in America.
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And I think it's quite charming and fun because you think of the movie Bridget Jones' Diary with the dashing Mr. Darcy when he first met Bridget Jones and he had this Christmas sweater on.
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It brings a smile to people's face and that's what it's all about.
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But that's more for, you know, family gathering, not for an elegant, you know, dining event.
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You don't want anything tall and extravagant that's going to distract from people actually seeing one another because you don't want to be like a jack in the box popping up and down to try and make polite conversation.
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It needs to be lower than eye level and it needs to be something like this.
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By the way, so we have a big podcast and radio audience.
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You just showed, talk to people, just describe what you just put up because I want to make sure people that are not watching on TV or streaming understand what you just did.
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You can get a point of setup anywhere and it's just lovely.
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So it has to be below eye level so it doesn't distract.
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Holly is very important to have around the house to welcome people.
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This is a wonderful Christian symbolism of God's sacrifice.
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The red berries represent the blood of Christ and the prickly leaves represent the crucifixion.
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And what I really like about it is that the green stays green all year round and that represents eternal life.
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It started in the 18th century with servants in England and they would put it up high and it was considered bad luck to not kiss.
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But the etiquette rule is you don't want to force your kiss on somebody.
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And it's a lovely tradition really, but you should definitely have this in your home.
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I thought it was people that had like a relationship or part of the family.
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Yes, that's why it's important to ask beforehand and not just assume.
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Is that an English tradition or is that from Germany or from Scandinavia?
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It came from early 18th century England with servants and was considered bad luck if you refused a kiss.
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But it's best to keep it brisk and remember it's not a snog.
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Number one, on the on the invitations, how you recommend on invitations to either New Year's or Christmas parties, how early do you send them out?
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I recommend as early as possible, at least two weeks before.
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What about RSVP, particularly people getting them?
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I know a lot of folks plan parties, either too many people show up or not enough people.
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Everybody should RSVP the host so that host can plan in advance and knows exactly how many people are going to show up.
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And what about what about what about the dress when you're hosting a party during the Christmas period?
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What do you recommend to most people about the attire?
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Well, I always say dress your best if there's not a dress code, but it is best to have a dress code so people know what to expect beforehand.
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So you recommend if you're hosting a party, put a dress code in.
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Don't put paper napkins on the table because paper napkins are suitable for children's parties, not adults.
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This is a time to showcase your your finest china and silverware and linen napkins.
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Make sure you use best your best linen napkins.
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I recommend crystal and always serve your guests on a tray.
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It's much more elegant than just passing a glass if you hand it on a tray and preferably a silver tray, of course.
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And if you pass it to your a glass of wine to your guests, always hold it by the stem so it's easier to pick up and you have that poised position.
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And if you are opening up a bottle of champagne, make sure you don't point it at anybody.
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Actually, you do a little twist and that way you don't spill it, spill the champagne.
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But where do people you have a school that teaches etiquette?
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But where can people go, particularly for the holiday season, what we just talked about on your website?
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Where do they go to find out all the ins and outs of hosting a Christmas or holiday party?
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And I'm also on social media at the Lady Etiquette on Instagram and Lady Etiquette Academy on Facebook.
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Now, you do also have a you have an apparel line.
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I remember in Tampa, we were there for you were there for the Turning Point conference.
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And it's a retro line inspired by Golden Hollywood.
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So it's more modest and classy and it's it's beautiful line.
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One important tip, if I may give at Christmas, remember to say Merry Christmas or Happy, Happy Christmas, not Happy Holidays, because Happy Holidays is a bit disingenuous.
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