Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 912： Three Giants： Falwell, Dobson, And Robertson

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.660 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.920 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.180 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.140 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.560 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.280 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.220 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.480 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.880 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.780 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.660 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.420 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.740 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:51.020 Tuesday, 16 December, year of our Lord, 2025.

00:00:57.040 Welcome for the second hour of the late afternoon, early evening edition of the War Room.

00:01:05.060 I am very pleased we were able to put this together.

00:01:07.820 The reason I put it together, and put it together quickly, I thought it was very important before,

00:01:12.340 because there's going to be a bunch of big old fights over the Christmas season and then into New Year,

00:01:17.100 about exactly where we stand and what we're trying to accomplish here.

00:01:20.420 And I wanted to go back in time and point to another time that we had issues kind of like this,

00:01:25.920 and people stepped into the breach and really had courage.

00:01:28.380 So it's about three giants, Dobson, Falwell, and Robertson.

00:01:33.300 Dave Bratt, you're at Liberty now.

00:01:35.960 You've been, you know, I know you love that institution.

00:01:38.540 You talk about it all the time.

00:01:40.180 Set the perspective.

00:01:40.940 We've got Bill Federer, who's one of the best historians out there and a great Christian writer.

00:01:46.800 However, why is this important we're doing this now?

00:01:51.340 Why is it important to remember Dobson, Falwell, and Robertson?

00:01:55.240 Because they come from, you know, the height of their game was the 70s, really the 80s, maybe into the 90s.

00:02:02.580 Of course, all of them left institutions that lived beyond them.

00:02:05.260 But why is it important for us today to understand why they are giants, sir?

00:02:11.120 Yeah, well, I was watching your show earlier today, and it was the perfect setup.

00:02:19.000 I mean, the men in this country and the muscularity of Americans is just down the tubes right now.

00:02:26.280 We're no longer strong.

00:02:28.560 The evangelicals used to have these strong men and leaders across the country.

00:02:33.700 Today, we've still got a few powerhouses left, but it's a few.

00:02:37.340 And so your news today, you've got Rachel Maddow mocking U.S. constitutional rights. 1.00

00:02:44.580 You've got a beautiful young woman down in Georgia that just had acid thrown on her face. 1.00

00:02:49.680 And it appears there's not enough masculine deterrence going on in Minnesota, across the world.

00:02:57.480 And so we need to get our game back up.

00:03:00.720 The idea, right, this country has been very generous when it comes to human rights, right?

00:03:05.240 We are the only tradition.

00:03:06.880 The Christian tradition is the only tradition that came up, first of all, in the first place, with human rights in about the 1300s, thanks to you Catholics. 0.99

00:03:14.860 So I'm giving you a nice shout-out there.

00:03:17.100 And then we have achieved them fully with the United Nations.

00:03:20.840 And the rest of the countries around the world do not have mature human rights systems.

00:03:25.800 So they come over.

00:03:27.240 We protect minority rights.

00:03:29.160 We protect their right to religion, to speech, to everything.

00:03:33.060 And they do not do likewise.

00:03:34.740 This is kind of new.

00:03:36.240 We used to be a little more muscular.

00:03:38.540 And so Jerry Falwell, here's what he had to say to his critics on this kind of thing.

00:03:42.920 And this has to do kind of with the founding and the initial rights we had.

00:03:46.560 Here's how Falwell responded to his critics in 1980.

00:03:49.840 I'm being accused of being controversial and political.

00:03:53.280 I'm not political.

00:03:55.100 Moral issues that have been made political, I still fight.

00:03:58.840 It isn't my fault that they've made these moral issues political.

00:04:02.820 It couldn't be more timely.

00:04:04.460 But because they have done that, it doesn't stop the preachers of God from addressing them.

00:04:10.160 Right?

00:04:10.340 So the left, we used to have rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:04:14.080 Now there's a right to everything under the sun.

00:04:16.080 The left and the minority populations in this country are acting like they're the majority.

00:04:21.540 Right?

00:04:21.760 The Islamic community right now, folks are coming over.

00:04:25.540 Congresswoman, there's a couple of them out in Minnesota, et cetera.

00:04:29.720 They're being very belligerent and acting not that they have minority rights protected, but that they want to rule with the majority.

00:04:37.300 And that is not the system our founders set up.

00:04:41.060 And so we need to return to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and James Dobson.

00:04:46.260 What they set up was incredible.

00:04:48.020 And I'll just add one other little piece under education.

00:04:52.560 Falwell, you know, now Liberty, we have a good K-12 system as well.

00:04:56.900 We have 170,000 total students in our network.

00:04:59.800 But on education, Falwell saw the public schools, secular education in general, calling them breeding grounds, right, public education. 0.53

00:05:08.500 This was back in the 70s and 80s, calling the public school systems breeding grounds for atheism, secularism, and humanism.

00:05:16.780 And he certainly got all that right.

00:05:18.860 Right now you see at Brown University and our elite university, they no longer believe in human rights that come from God, inalienable rights.

00:05:27.700 And so the three leaders would never have put up with any of this.

00:05:31.820 They're out at the ramparts yelling and screaming and preaching as prophetic voices.

00:05:36.960 And I'll just give you one little more piece.

00:05:40.420 To Falwell, America had lost the blessing of God.

00:05:44.240 This is in the 70s.

00:05:45.360 Lost the blessing of God because the nation had turned from following the Almighty.

00:05:49.620 Falwell said the ultimate blame for the nation's ills was not to be found in Washington, D.C.

00:05:56.460 but the doorstep of apathetic Christians and in America's silent pulpits. 0.86

00:06:04.380 And his prophetic voice could not be more timely.

00:06:08.980 I want to bring in Bill Federer.

00:06:10.520 And, Bill, I want to get to your writings and your books in a moment.

00:06:13.800 I want to thank you.

00:06:14.580 You know, you're one of the, I think, best writers around.

00:06:16.960 We'll get into that in a while.

00:06:18.000 So you knew all three of these guys.

00:06:21.340 And Brett and I really thank you for doing this and carving out the time that we've done

00:06:24.860 and kind of practice, et cetera.

00:06:26.900 Go back to the time.

00:06:28.480 America had basically come out of World War II as the only unscathed power.

00:06:34.340 Obviously, China had lost 35 million people and was overrun by communism, part of which

00:06:41.760 we turned over to the communists, our State Department at the time.

00:06:45.660 Russia was destroyed.

00:06:46.920 Germany was destroyed.

00:06:47.640 Western Europe was destroyed.

00:06:48.580 America was a superpower and had a deep faith.

00:06:53.420 It was a deep faith that won that war.

00:06:55.440 But by the 60s, something happened.

00:06:59.080 Now, I'm a believer in the turnings, and you go through a fourth turning, but something

00:07:02.040 clearly happened.

00:07:02.800 That was where Dobson, Falwell, and Robertson came from, right?

00:07:09.800 Because later in the 80s and the 90s, or really late 70s, 80s, and 90s, when they rose to power

00:07:15.600 all three as national figures and built institutions that outlasted them, something drove that.

00:07:22.000 So take us back in time to the country.

00:07:23.760 What was it that drove these men, all three very different, on their path, not just their

00:07:29.740 personal search for the Savior and for God?

00:07:33.400 But then they made this really courageous decision that, I'm going to go into the public

00:07:37.880 square, sir.

00:07:39.900 Right.

00:07:40.340 So World War II, we went a two-front war, and the socialists realized they can't defeat

00:07:45.600 us on the battlefield.

00:07:46.840 And so the Antonio Gramsci, the long march through the institutions, their goal is to

00:07:50.480 rot us from within.

00:07:52.200 And even Albert Herlong, a congressman from Florida, reads into the congressional record

00:07:57.340 in 1963.

00:07:58.300 The 45 communist goals is destroy the churches, destroy the families, destroy marriage, destroy 0.86

00:08:04.480 traditional morality.

00:08:06.000 And so those three men, Pat Robertson and James Dobson and Jerry Falwell, realized and

00:08:13.120 sensed that this is where the new war is.

00:08:15.900 This is a war that's on the inside.

00:08:18.220 It's like they've introduced an autoimmune disease into the body politic, and we have this

00:08:23.160 fighting going on inside, and it's over the morals.

00:08:26.560 And so each one of them realized that they couldn't just live their life inside the four walls of

00:08:33.080 the church, they had to impact the country, and they had to take the step and say, we have to

00:08:39.020 impact politics, right?

00:08:41.280 Here we have the midterms.

00:08:42.620 My dad was in real estate.

00:08:44.120 Location, location, location were the three rules, right?

00:08:47.040 Right now, it's midterms, midterms, midterms.

00:08:49.460 Everything needs to be focused, because if we lose that, then all the gains that we've gotten

00:08:55.020 could be wiped out, and we could just don't want to go down that road.

00:08:59.020 We need to realize that these three men knew that Pat Robertson had a million viewers a

00:09:06.960 day, and Jerry Falwell had, I think, 50 million, and James Dobson's radio program had 220 million

00:09:16.640 listeners a day.

00:09:18.660 And they realized that we can't just talk to them.

00:09:22.240 We have to activate them to save the country.

00:09:25.100 You know, I was with Charlie Kirk four days before he was shot in Seoul, Korea, and they're

00:09:30.380 interpreting his talk, and he goes, the first thing is to put Jesus first in everything you

00:09:34.560 do, and then the second most important thing is to preserve the freedom to do the most important

00:09:38.420 thing.

00:09:39.140 And if we don't get involved, we'll be sharing our faith from a prison cell.

00:09:42.640 So the idea is that you just can't live your life and ignore what kind of country that

00:09:51.060 we're leaving our kids.

00:09:52.660 And I knew, as you mentioned, all three of those personally, Pat Robertson, the best.

00:09:59.020 I've been on the board of Regent University for the better part of 20 years, and now with

00:10:04.100 Gordon Robertson.

00:10:05.540 But just to see that here's somebody that just, the Lord put the idea in his heart to

00:10:11.600 start this university.

00:10:13.160 Hang on, but I want to get to that.

00:10:16.200 Correct me if I'm wrong, because you knew about Dobson and Robertson started out as men

00:10:22.300 in the world.

00:10:22.940 Dobson was a clinical psychologist.

00:10:25.520 Pat Robertson went to Yale University.

00:10:27.620 His father was a very prominent senator, a powerhouse from the Commonwealth of Virginia,

00:10:34.340 Willis Robertson.

00:10:35.180 They were a very establishment family.

00:10:37.040 He goes to Yale, right?

00:10:39.160 He goes to Yale.

00:10:40.660 He serves in the Marines.

00:10:43.280 But then he goes, he's a lawyer.

00:10:44.940 These are two men of the world.

00:10:46.240 How did they, what was their calling first to the Lord?

00:10:49.400 How did they even come into the business of dedicating their life to religion and to the

00:10:55.140 Christ and to the church?

00:10:56.840 And then we'll get to the next step of how then they took it out into the world.

00:11:00.120 But, you know, Falwell was, although Falwell, I think Falwell's father was a bootlegger,

00:11:05.980 right?

00:11:06.500 At least the legend has it.

00:11:08.420 These guys were not super holy as they were younger.

00:11:11.740 They were men of the world, and then they got drawn to the, to the saved by Christ and

00:11:15.700 drawn to the church, sir.

00:11:17.840 Yeah, well, I think you're hitting it right on the head.

00:11:20.180 They had an experience with the Lord.

00:11:22.280 Pat Robertson, probably around 1956, he sat for the law exam, the bar exam, and failed.

00:11:31.160 And then after that, he met Harold Bredesen, and he was a Lutheran minister, pastoring in

00:11:39.080 New York, a Reformed church, but he was charismatic.

00:11:42.560 And the movement was sweeping through America at the time.

00:11:47.200 If you saw the Jesus Revolution movie and Greg Lowry and the beginning of the Calvary

00:11:51.620 Chapel movement, that was sort of this time with the guitar in churches and music.

00:11:58.820 But that touched Pat Robertson.

00:12:01.200 And so then the idea is to, he read through the Bible and not just reading it as a history

00:12:07.600 book, which it has definitely history in it, but reading it as God speaking to me right

00:12:12.400 now.

00:12:12.920 And he would be confirmed by other different verses.

00:12:16.800 Anyway, in 1960, he had the idea to buy a UHF TV station.

00:12:23.500 And back then, UHF, you had your three big, ABC, NBC, and CBS, the UHF, you had to have

00:12:30.020 those rabbit ears on top of your TV and put aluminum foil around them.

00:12:33.540 And very few people, he didn't even have a TV when he bought this UHF station.

00:12:39.960 And he just had this, the Lord spoke to his heart to do it, spent years doing fundraisers,

00:12:46.420 the 700 Club, people that would donate to it.

00:12:48.700 And it grew and it touched lives.

00:12:53.120 And then, but then at one point he realized that we have to leverage this.

00:12:58.340 And he started the CBN University that turned into Regent University.

00:13:02.120 And then he started the Operation Blessing.

00:13:06.340 And then they started going international.

00:13:08.660 But this is an inspiration to us because he had $70 in his pocket when he first started it.

00:13:14.660 That the idea is that you can take a little, you know, God told Moses, what do you have

00:13:20.540 in your hand?

00:13:21.160 Well, a rod.

00:13:22.080 Okay, I can use that.

00:13:24.020 Instead of waiting, it's like it's availability, not ability.

00:13:28.500 And so Pat was an inspiration and continues to be through the school with 11,000 students

00:13:35.340 and all the graduates.

00:13:37.080 And now Michelle Bachman is the head of the School of Government and tremendous.

00:13:40.560 When I, they go through all the accreditation and all of that, it's like they have a powerhouse

00:13:47.760 of staff at Regent.

00:13:50.960 And I do want to do a shout out to Liberty University.

00:13:53.880 And Liberty University is absolutely tremendous.

00:13:55.640 And I had the privilege of getting to know Jerry Falwell.

00:13:59.980 And not as close, but he did have dinner with him a couple of times.

00:14:04.160 And he endorsed me when I ran for Congress.

00:14:05.780 And then James Dobson was focused on the family.

00:14:09.560 Hang on.

00:14:10.360 But Jerry, if you take Dobson and Robertson, Jerry did take the path of being a preacher.

00:14:17.500 I mean, I was a Catholic in Virginia as a kid, and that was almost like a mission territory.

00:14:21.980 There weren't tons of Catholics in the state.

00:14:24.560 There was a lot in Norfolk, being a seaport town.

00:14:26.920 But Falwell was legendary because he took, I think it was the Thomas Road Baptist Church.

00:14:33.820 It was a little teeny Baptist church.

00:14:35.540 And he became legendary of having all these buses that brought people in.

00:14:39.300 I mean, he really created the first megachurch.

00:14:41.040 But he did that with the power of his gift from the pulpit.

00:14:44.440 I mean, he was known as a brilliant preacher that just drew people to him to hear about the

00:14:50.760 Word of God.

00:14:51.380 So he's the one that took probably the most traditional route, although all three of these

00:14:55.300 guys were not traditional.

00:14:56.140 They broke every mold.

00:14:57.220 But he actually started as a pastor and a preacher in his own church, correct?

00:15:02.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:03.520 His goal was to knock on 100 doors a day, six days a week, and knock on every door in Lynchburg,

00:15:09.920 Virginia.

00:15:10.760 So he personally was out there doing this, and he had the old-time gospel hour, and he

00:15:17.440 would preach with conviction.

00:15:20.520 But then when he started the moral majority, it was, you know, you had Jimmy Carter in the

00:15:25.700 country and all the Iran.

00:15:28.860 I mean, people forget, Iran used to be America's, almost America's biggest friend in the Middle

00:15:33.420 East.

00:15:33.700 I met the Shah's son years ago.

00:15:35.260 I mean, the Shah loved America, but Jimmy Carter abandoned the Shah and let the Ayatollah 1.00

00:15:40.260 take over.

00:15:41.020 So anytime you see Iran this, Iran, you know, funding Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis, 0.56

00:15:45.280 you can thank Jimmy Carter.

00:15:46.860 And so Jerry Falwell campaigned, he put money into ads against Jimmy Carter, supporting Ronald

00:15:54.320 Reagan.

00:15:54.800 And so Jerry Falwell is considered the one who delivered the evangelical vote for Reagan.

00:16:01.500 And we had those eight wonderful years with Ronald Reagan, and America became a great nation

00:16:06.740 again.

00:16:07.680 And so, but there's the call out for us to, this is our turn.

00:16:11.100 This is our turn to do that same thing.

00:16:13.100 Um, hey, Dave Bratt, when, uh, when, uh, Reverend Falwell kind of started, why did he call it

00:16:20.720 in the radio show was that?

00:16:21.860 And then I think later the TV show, but the radio show became nationwide, uh, the old time

00:16:27.280 gospel hour.

00:16:28.620 Why did he put the emphasis on old time?

00:16:31.240 Was there something missing in those years and those decades that he felt people needed

00:16:36.040 to be called back to?

00:16:37.060 Yeah, he, uh, he was just 100% in the Baptist tradition of the gospel is everything, right?

00:16:46.680 John the Baptist, uh, coming in the old time, uh, repentance, uh, repent for the kingdom of

00:16:53.540 God is at hand.

00:16:54.680 And that was Jerry in, in the pulpit.

00:16:57.020 Uh, there was no one better, total courage.

00:16:59.700 He, he agreed with you and some of the tough folks these days.

00:17:03.600 There's no such thing as bad press.

00:17:05.140 He didn't care.

00:17:06.500 He would just let it rip.

00:17:07.760 He got into trouble all the time.

00:17:09.920 Uh, by the way, some of my good friends, uh, put together, put some of this stuff together

00:17:15.560 for me.

00:17:16.160 Daryl Edwards down the hall and Susan Berenger both worked with Jerry senior, uh, personally

00:17:21.460 for years and years and years.

00:17:22.620 And it gave me some great stuff.

00:17:24.200 Uh, but here, here's some of, uh, Jerry's, uh, titles for his sermons, uh, in chapters

00:17:29.380 that 1975 revival in America 76.

00:17:33.120 Can America survive the greatness of this nation, cleaning up America, our immoral society, America's 0.92

00:17:39.700 moral issues, getting involved in turning the nation around.

00:17:43.020 So this, this harkens back to the old time, you know, virtues and values of the founders

00:17:47.420 and the Puritans that made us great.

00:17:48.800 America's sins in 1980, the Christian bill of rights. 0.99

00:17:52.160 I love that contract with America kind of idea, changing America's morals, getting back

00:17:56.700 to God's principles.

00:17:57.580 And the moral majority, it's important to note, uh, in the pulpit, there was no compromise.

00:18:02.560 It was a hundred percent Christian orthodoxy period.

00:18:05.860 But when it came to the moral majority, it was everybody get on the, if you've got problems

00:18:10.700 with the current morality going on, the depravity in this country, Protestants, Catholics, uh, 1.00

00:18:16.700 Jewish, uh, Mormons, Pentecostals, et cetera, everybody welcome.

00:18:21.580 If you've got a problem with the morality in this country.

00:18:23.980 And right now we do not have that.

00:18:26.180 The left somehow has LBG, TQ, ABC, whatever it is, uh, aligned with Islamic leftism who

00:18:33.680 opposes everything.

00:18:34.920 And they're all on board attacking Christians these days.

00:18:38.300 And so, uh, we, we need to get the band back together.

00:18:41.860 But Federer, that's, that's a good point.

00:18:45.100 Uncompromising as a preacher, uncompromising as he took that out across the nation with the

00:18:50.360 old time gospel hour.

00:18:51.360 But he named it the moral majority because his point was, there are majority of the people

00:18:57.480 in this country that are moral, are seeking to be moral and have America be moral.

00:19:02.400 And I will have a big tent.

00:19:04.320 It'll be on the right, but it'll be a big tent.

00:19:06.940 But we need to bond.

00:19:08.400 We need to come together to take the country back, sir.

00:19:12.300 Yep.

00:19:12.920 The Continental Congress met in, um, September of, uh, 70, 74.

00:19:18.560 And there was a motion to open with prayer and it was opposed by the delegate of Rutledge

00:19:24.360 from South Carolina and a couple others because they were so divided in their religious sentiments

00:19:29.080 is what John Adams wrote.

00:19:30.560 And, uh, he said that there were, uh, Episcopalians or Anglicans and then Congregationalists and

00:19:37.040 Dutch Reformed and Baptists and Lutherans.

00:19:40.040 And one Catholic, uh, Charles Carroll Carrollton.

00:19:42.580 And, and, and so it almost fell apart.

00:19:45.380 And then Sam Adams stands up and he goes, I'm no bigot.

00:19:48.580 I can hear a prayer of any man, a piety who at the same time is a patriot of our nation.

00:19:53.300 And then they opened with prayer, right?

00:19:55.300 Jacob Boucher came over.

00:19:56.640 And, and so that's where we're at today.

00:19:58.300 It's like, look, we don't agree with everybody on everything.

00:20:01.060 I mean, most guys don't agree with their wives on everything, but you love your wife.

00:20:04.040 Right.

00:20:04.300 And so it's like, well, let's concentrate.

00:20:06.580 If we can all work together, we can save the country so that we can all have the freedom

00:20:10.320 to do what we each think is right.

00:20:12.540 And so we have to work together.

00:20:14.540 And, and that's what Jerry Falwell realized with the moral majority.

00:20:18.180 That's what Pat Robertson realized with the Christian coalition.

00:20:21.280 All right.

00:20:22.060 And, and James Dobson focused on the family and, and how he edged out, um, you know, he

00:20:28.920 endorsed me when I ran for Congress and they said, now make sure you say this is James

00:20:32.580 Dobson personally not focus on the family, uh, cause they didn't want to get focused

00:20:37.260 in trouble.

00:20:37.700 But, uh, but he understood that they, I have to step out.

00:20:41.480 We have to realize we have to impact the country.

00:20:44.020 And here we are today with the midterms coming up.

00:20:46.100 We have to realize that all of us need to work together and that the goal is to save the

00:20:51.480 country.

00:20:51.820 And then we can each get back to believing and promoting what are different views.

00:20:56.820 But if we don't, they're going to outlaw all of our views.

00:20:59.720 And it'll be like the communist China or North Korea.

00:21:04.680 What, what was it about the time?

00:21:06.720 It was really the end of the sixties, the early seventies, and that kind of gap, uh,

00:21:12.000 before Reagan, that, uh, all three of these, but particularly Robertson and Falwell at that

00:21:16.360 time understood that this is a crisis moment.

00:21:19.260 This is, this is an inflection point for America.

00:21:21.680 We're going to go one way or the other that in the, and they actually chose a side politically,

00:21:26.000 right.

00:21:26.760 They chose a side that the Republican party is imperfect as it was.

00:21:31.180 Right.

00:21:31.660 And I remember somebody telling me one time that the biggest shock that came in the, the,

00:21:36.580 um, uh, it was a consultant that told me that, um, that in the right after, um, Reagan had

00:21:43.420 lost to Ford in 76, and then Carter had won that they started noticing coming to the Republican,

00:21:49.780 uh, groups afterwards as they tried to re regroup and figure out how they're going to win.

00:21:54.860 Uh, at these meetings, you started having what they said were the first time they saw really

00:22:00.240 unclubbable people.

00:22:01.500 And that was, uh, right to life Catholics and these evangelicals who were not country club

00:22:08.260 type.

00:22:08.500 In fact, these people were not, if they were middle class, they were kind of the lower end

00:22:12.600 of the middle class and the working class.

00:22:14.240 And they were coming to kind of country club where you had the Phyllis Schlafly, you know,

00:22:18.680 grassroots, but most of the Republican party was still country club.

00:22:21.500 And all of a sudden these people came and the guy told me, he says, you know, these people

00:22:24.280 were unclubbable.

00:22:25.100 You couldn't get them in the country club.

00:22:26.720 And they talked a whole different language.

00:22:29.240 They talked about something that we hadn't really talked about before, because the Republican

00:22:32.720 party at that time was talking about civic culture and civic society.

00:22:37.300 These people brought hardcore religious views.

00:22:40.240 The evangelical right was hardcore, get back to the basics of the Bible.

00:22:45.240 And the traditional Catholics, the right to life Catholics were hardcore about abortion 0.85

00:22:49.520 and a handful of things related to life.

00:22:52.560 But that group, right, was gave the foundation for the Reagan revolution.

00:22:57.320 You wouldn't have had these big blowout wins, right?

00:23:00.020 If you didn't have that beginning of a coalition coming together, that was something that greater

00:23:04.500 than the Republican party.

00:23:05.880 Talk to me about that.

00:23:06.620 That moment in the 70s is going to come down as one of the most important moments in the

00:23:12.340 country's history.

00:23:14.400 Yeah, I totally agree.

00:23:16.520 You know, in Europe, it was one denomination per country.

00:23:19.360 And so people fled.

00:23:20.700 But they don't realize that every colony in America was started by a different denomination.

00:23:24.820 Virginia was Anglican.

00:23:25.980 Massachusetts was Puritan, Rhode Island Baptist, Maryland Catholic.

00:23:28.680 And so you literally had churches founding cities.

00:23:31.680 And so Providence, Rhode Island was founded by the first congregational church.

00:23:35.120 Hartford, Connecticut, rather, was founded by the first congregational church and Providence

00:23:40.200 by the first Baptist church and Maryland by Catholics.

00:23:42.900 And so everybody's involved in church and everybody's involved in politics because it's

00:23:47.220 the church founding the city.

00:23:49.120 It wasn't until the 1700s with the Great Awakening revival that this movement came along that if

00:23:55.480 you're really spiritual, you'll withdraw from worldly things, including government.

00:23:59.360 And so it was the early 1700s, you get this idea, I'm more spiritual than you are because

00:24:04.440 I'm not involved in politics.

00:24:05.960 It's like, that was the 1700s.

00:24:07.100 It wasn't the 1600s.

00:24:08.380 1600s, everybody's involved in politics.

00:24:10.300 Word polis means city.

00:24:12.320 Politics is the business of the city.

00:24:13.820 And it's the church founding the city.

00:24:15.120 So they're all involved.

00:24:16.340 But in the 70s, they realized that we need to, you know, in reading American history, you

00:24:22.520 have multiple decades where Protestants and Catholics were hitting each other in loggerheads,

00:24:28.420 right?

00:24:28.780 And it was not good.

00:24:31.540 But in the 70s, we realized, wait, this has gone deep.

00:24:35.400 Now, you know, when they first took prayer out of schools, it was Protestants and Catholics

00:24:41.180 arguing over it.

00:24:42.740 And they said, well, let's just not have it at all.

00:24:45.520 And they left a vacuum.

00:24:46.560 And within just a short time, that vacuum was filled by all the sexual promiscuity and 0.80

00:24:52.640 the atheism.

00:24:53.660 And so we're coming back trying to regain ground.

00:24:56.800 We used to have saying, look, we need to make up.

00:24:59.640 I was reading Washington when he was there, you know, Dorchester Heights and Boston and

00:25:07.000 in the Harvard yard had some soldiers from Connecticut and they were going to do the annual

00:25:13.200 burning of the Pope in effigy.

00:25:15.000 And Washington said, guys, guys, we're not going to do that anymore.

00:25:18.740 We have Catholics fighting with us against the British.

00:25:21.340 So no more than, right?

00:25:23.040 But just like that, we have to work together to save the country.

00:25:26.420 And that's what they realized in the 1970s with Pat Johnson and Jerry Falwell and James

00:25:32.300 Thompson.

00:25:33.300 Bill, hang on for a second.

00:25:34.840 We're taking a short commercial break.

00:25:36.040 We're going to go through some of Bill's writings that I think people ought to be familiar

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00:25:40.120 And we're going to talk about how all three of these individuals left their institution

00:25:44.380 builders and left institutions that live beyond them.

00:25:47.300 Three giants who bound together to save the country.

00:25:51.760 Let's be blunt.

00:25:53.300 The Reagan revolution had as a backbone a deep religious underpinning, a religious underpinning

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00:26:09.420 The heroes.

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00:26:11.840 Courage is contagious.

00:26:13.280 These three giants knew it.

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00:31:41.000 We're talking about the three giants.

00:31:43.280 That would be Dobson, Falwell, and Pat Robertson.

00:31:46.700 And these were three giants that saved the country back in the 1970s, 1980s.

00:31:52.280 Federer, one of the reasons I wanted to have you on, you knew all three.

00:31:54.760 You're still on the board at Regent.

00:31:57.020 You knew Pat Robertson very, very well.

00:31:59.580 But you're a great writer.

00:32:01.520 My favorite, you've got a book on Islam and the Quran in the United States.

00:32:06.900 I think everybody needs that as a prep today.

00:32:09.300 Tell me about it.

00:32:09.780 Give me a minute on that book, and I want to talk to you about one of my other favorites.

00:32:12.760 What about this?

00:32:13.480 Why is this book relevant today on the Quran?

00:32:17.680 It goes through the 1,400-year history of Islam conquering all of North Africa, which 1.00

00:32:22.300 used to be Christian.

00:32:23.700 Egypt used to be Christian.

00:32:25.220 Syria used to be Christian.

00:32:26.600 Turkey used to be the Byzantine Christian Empire.

00:32:29.360 But it zeroes in on Muhammad.

00:32:31.060 He was a religious leader for 12 years in Mecca, only makes 70 converts.

00:32:35.100 He gets confrontational.

00:32:35.980 They chase him out of town.

00:32:37.340 He's the first Muslim refugee.

00:32:39.200 He goes to Medina, which was controlled by three Jewish clans.

00:32:42.060 They're tolerant.

00:32:42.480 They let him in.

00:32:43.160 He goes into the minority neighborhoods, and he organizes a following, like a community

00:32:46.880 organizer.

00:32:47.560 And he gets involved in politics, and he pressures the Jews to a treaty. 0.88

00:32:51.300 And then when his followers get chased out of Mecca, there's lots of Muslim immigrants. 1.00

00:32:55.360 They come into Medina, and Muhammad allows him to rob the caravans headed back to Mecca. 0.90

00:32:59.860 He even gets verses from Allah that Allah has given you the slave girls as your booty. 0.96

00:33:03.720 And so he fights in 66 battles and raids, killing 3,000 people.

00:33:08.500 And within five years of Muhammad coming into the Jewish city of Medina, there's not a Jew

00:33:12.480 left in the city of Medina.

00:33:13.960 They were chased out, killed, or enslaved.

00:33:15.660 So it's a three-step process.

00:33:17.460 Immigrate, increase, eliminate. 1.00

00:33:19.100 Immigrate as a religious refugee. 0.99

00:33:21.100 Go into the minority neighborhoods and build a following and get involved in politics.

00:33:25.200 And then you have random outbreaks of violence, usually by young Muslim men, and the previous 0.99

00:33:29.720 inhabitants of the neighborhood no longer feel safe.

00:33:31.620 They move out, and they take over the neighborhood.

00:33:33.800 And they do that neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, country by country.

00:33:36.620 And there's a 1,400-year track record of how all Christianity was driven out of two continents

00:33:42.240 this way.

00:33:43.260 But I go through it logically.

00:33:46.420 I go through it from St. Thomas Aquinas, what he said about Islam, and John Wesley, and

00:33:50.760 Martin Luther.

00:33:51.540 And so it's a fascinating book, Barbary, Pirate Wars.

00:33:55.700 St. Augustine, St. Augustine was, St. Augustine was from, I think he was a Berber. 0.99

00:34:00.620 He was from North Africa.

00:34:01.980 The great fathers of the church, people forget that.

00:34:04.480 It was deeply Christian, not just Christian, it was the fathers, the desert fathers, some 0.60

00:34:10.140 of the fathers of the church, those first couple of centuries.

00:34:12.880 It was unbelievable.

00:34:13.540 And Islam came up in like 600.

00:34:15.140 It was really, it was very close to the infancy of the church.

00:34:17.680 Another book you've got, I love it because it talks about the 16th century, kind of the

00:34:25.140 predicate to the founding of the United States.

00:34:27.800 And a lot of people don't, don't focus on this.

00:34:30.300 It was a rough time and a time of empires.

00:34:32.580 Talk to me about this, because this is one of my, this is one of my favorite writings

00:34:37.420 of yours, sir.

00:34:38.000 Yeah, you have Chinese emperors, Indian maharajas, Russian czars, African chieftains, Mongolian

00:34:44.280 khans, and Muslim sultans, and kings of Spain, France, and Austria.

00:34:48.500 The whole world is kings.

00:34:49.880 And if you're friends with the king, you're more equal.

00:34:52.100 If you're not friends, you're less equal. 0.99

00:34:53.180 If you're an enemy, you're dead.

00:34:54.300 It's called treason. 0.94

00:34:55.260 And you had to believe the way your king tells you to believe, or you're killed.

00:34:59.720 And so it gives a background of why the pilgrims came over.

00:35:02.620 But I get into the details of it, how, you know, the king of France was captured by the

00:35:08.440 king of Spain, and Francis I goes over and makes a treaty with the Ottomans, called the

00:35:12.300 Franco-Ottoman Treaties.

00:35:13.640 And so Spain can no longer defend North Africa, and the Muslims conquer it. 1.00

00:35:18.060 One of the pilgrimships in 1625 was sent back to England with 800 pounds of beaver skins,

00:35:23.660 and a Turkish man of war captures it in the English Channel, takes it to Morocco, sells the

00:35:28.620 crew into slavery.

00:35:29.220 Uh, the Muslims in the 1600s captured an entire Irish village, Baltimore, Ireland, the stolen 1.00

00:35:35.160 village.

00:35:35.700 They even attacked Iceland and carried hundreds of way to Morocco. 0.61

00:35:39.240 And so they even had to deal with the same things we're dealing with today.

00:35:43.500 A fascinating book.

00:35:44.700 It gives you a new appreciation for the pilgrims.

00:35:47.580 I love it.

00:35:48.000 And how they came over and set up a government where it's bottom up, we the people, versus

00:35:51.500 top down.

00:35:52.880 And tough hombres.

00:35:54.520 That's what people forget.

00:35:55.340 They see them in the big hats and the thing.

00:35:56.740 They say, no, no, no, no, no.

00:35:57.640 These people were as hard as boot leather, tough as boot leather.

00:36:03.000 Hang over a second, Federer.

00:36:04.480 Dave Bratt.

00:36:05.960 These three giants.

00:36:06.920 We're going to delve down more and make sure we put together maybe a conference because

00:36:11.140 these giants saved the country.

00:36:13.900 And we need people like this to step up and be the new giants to save our country today.

00:36:18.980 Your thoughts about the, what were the common characteristics of these three men that led

00:36:24.920 them to show such courage?

00:36:26.800 And folks don't remember.

00:36:28.440 These people were attacked viciously.

00:36:31.300 Sir.

00:36:33.620 You know, I think Bill did a great job summarizing what the 70s were like.

00:36:38.260 And just to give an overview again of the moral majority, there were four pieces to it, according

00:36:43.220 to Jerry Sr., morality, America, pro-life, and family.

00:36:50.880 You know, hardly tough subjects to take on.

00:36:55.360 Morality, America, life, and family.

00:36:57.340 That's it.

00:36:57.800 And so the question is, how is this relevant today?

00:37:00.740 What did all the big three see in common?

00:37:04.200 Pretty simple.

00:37:05.260 They had a biblical worldview.

00:37:07.580 And it's in contrast to Romans 1, where, you know, Paul writes, we sought to worship the

00:37:17.080 creature rather than the creator.

00:37:19.520 That's what it's about.

00:37:20.860 And unfortunately, we don't teach any systems of thought anymore.

00:37:24.440 Philosophy is kind of dead.

00:37:25.640 Theology is a little dead.

00:37:26.800 All three of these figures were highly educated in the biblical worldview, and they saw exactly

00:37:32.780 what was at stake.

00:37:34.200 They were in a war with secularism, atheism, humanism, scientism.

00:37:39.760 All of those are about worshiping humanity and not God.

00:37:43.860 And if you play out what they saw back then in the 60s and 70s, you get today.

00:37:49.920 Now, I want to leave with a little hope.

00:37:51.440 We're still in good shape, right?

00:37:53.500 When you look at the rough numbers of the evangelicals, contemporary evangelical broadcasts reach a

00:37:59.560 large, diverse audience.

00:38:00.460 Studies show more than 60% of American adults consume Christian media.

00:38:05.300 Christian programming, total monthly reach, 90 million people, 36% of Christians, the radio, 43% TV.

00:38:15.260 Individual broadcasters like Joel Osteen.

00:38:17.900 Hey, Joel, if you're listening, you got to toughen up here and bring the goods on what we're talking

00:38:24.200 about here today because you have a huge reach, 20 million, Joel Osteen, a little too modern and soft.

00:38:31.100 We need to harden and steal the backbones of all these preachers so they understand that this country is under attack.

00:38:37.960 We need old-time gospel hours, what we need.

00:38:41.520 Yes, we need the old-time hours, right?

00:38:44.360 Jerry Falwell, man, he didn't soften it.

00:38:49.400 He gave it to you with the bark on.

00:38:51.300 Give it to you.

00:38:51.660 Tough way.

00:38:52.300 Give it to you.

00:38:53.940 Dave, hang on for a second.

00:38:55.440 Bill, we got a minute or two.

00:38:56.800 Your closing thoughts is we're going to have you back on.

00:38:58.940 I think we're going to take each individual maybe over the Christmas season to break down.

00:39:02.520 Because the Giants need to be understood what they stood for, why they stepped into the breach,

00:39:08.900 why they put it all on the line, and quite frankly, they were victorious.

00:39:12.960 They were a bridge.

00:39:14.500 They bridged us to where we are today for the fight that we've got today.

00:39:18.840 Bill Federer.

00:39:20.200 Well, they realized that the battle is for the hearts and minds of the people in America,

00:39:24.680 and so you had to use every way of communication.

00:39:27.960 And so Pat used the UHF TV station, and then it branched into CBN and the 700 Club.

00:39:34.380 But then he realized that you had to start a university to teach the kids, Regent University.

00:39:38.580 And then the same thing with Jerry Falwell.

00:39:42.000 Use media.

00:39:43.180 And James Dobson, 220 million daily radio listeners.

00:39:48.040 Today, it's the Internet.

00:39:50.180 Today, it's social media.

00:39:51.660 Today, the battle is for the hearts and minds of the country.

00:39:55.300 And so we need to use all the modern technology to reach where the kids are at, where the young people are at.

00:40:02.720 You know, we're a spirit, mind, and body.

00:40:04.760 Your mind's like a super fancy computer.

00:40:07.180 It's more than that, but it's at least that.

00:40:08.720 And your body's like a computer case, which makes it silly for people to argue over what color the computer case is.

00:40:14.260 Right?

00:40:14.400 But the battle is who gets to load the software on the next generation's brains.

00:40:18.080 And if we sit back, they're going to load all kinds of trans stuff and confusing stuff and mutilate these kids. 1.00

00:40:25.220 And so we want to put God's Word on there.

00:40:27.180 We want to put truth.

00:40:28.160 We want to put good things.

00:40:30.540 And so that's the battle.

00:40:31.980 And James Dobson and Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson understood the battle was for the mind.

00:40:38.440 It wasn't just denominational.

00:40:40.660 It wasn't just, you know, my turf.

00:40:42.860 It's like we have to save the country.

00:40:44.580 They understood that.

00:40:46.000 They were willing to take the criticism for it.

00:40:47.680 And personally, it's only when you have a relationship with Jesus do you not care about what other people think.

00:40:55.100 You know, Peter's around a fire, and the girl gets in his face and says, you were with Jesus.

00:41:00.080 And he looks around.

00:41:00.660 He realizes he's going to get kicked out of this group, and he denies Christ.

00:41:03.260 But then after the resurrection, the Sanhedrin said, we told you not to speak in this name.

00:41:08.180 And Peter said, it's better to obey God rather than men.

00:41:10.660 It's like, what happened to Peter?

00:41:11.620 He's filled with the Holy Spirit.

00:41:12.620 There's something about that that you don't care about what people think anymore.

00:41:16.560 That's what these men had.

00:41:17.520 They didn't care about what people thought.

00:41:19.120 They only cared about pleasing the Lord and saving the country.

00:41:22.780 Bill Federer, where can people go to get your writings?

00:41:25.120 I want people to become familiar with the pieces you put up, and particularly your books.

00:41:29.220 So where do they go?

00:41:30.740 It's AmericanMinute.com.

00:41:32.800 And I do do a weekly video for Turning Point.

00:41:35.600 So it's called TurningPointEd.com.

00:41:37.820 And look at resources, and it's how we got here.

00:41:40.800 So it's a seven- to ten-minute long video every week, how we got here.

00:41:44.900 They're really well-produced.

00:41:46.940 But TurningPointEd.com and then AmericanMinute.com.

00:41:51.180 Turning Point does such a great job.

00:41:52.940 AmFest this year.

00:41:53.820 Just incredible.

00:41:54.600 These guys, so organized.

00:41:56.360 Bill Federer, thank you for taking the time.

00:41:57.800 Dave Bratt, where do people go for your social media, your writings, your thoughts, and particularly your charts?

00:42:04.580 Yep, just Brad Economics on Getter and X.

00:42:09.080 And I just want to applaud Bill there, what we put in our minds.

00:42:13.660 Don't forget, I just listed in numbers.

00:42:15.380 Christians still have 60 to 70 percent of the people, and 70 percent of our economy is the consumer. 0.50

00:42:21.960 We got plenty of power, and it's up to the preachers to guide us rightly, and they're not.

00:42:26.540 And so we're laying it at the feet of the preachers today, not the politicians, for a change.

00:42:31.100 Well, the size of, before I go, the size of Liberty, and people have not been down either to Regent or to Liberty.

00:42:37.320 These are growing institutions.

00:42:39.120 The dynamism and the spirit you go when you go on campus is incredible.

00:42:42.960 Liberty has got how many students?

00:42:44.540 Because you've got this massive online to preach the gospel to the world and to teach people, right, higher education.

00:42:51.500 How many students do you actually have?

00:42:53.440 Yep, 16,000 on campus, but 170,000 total students in our Liberty system, 20,000 K-12, 140,000 online across the world in every Hill office on Congress, the Senate, the White House under every secretary.

00:43:12.460 We're having a profound influence.

00:43:14.560 The other preachers need to catch up.

00:43:16.100 Amazing.

00:43:18.720 Congratulations down there.

00:43:19.660 Dave Bratt, thank you so much.

00:43:21.300 Bill Federer, thank you.

00:43:22.400 When people get to know your books, I think maybe a good one to start is the one on Islam, so thank you, sir.

00:43:28.600 Three giants.

00:43:32.040 Dobson, Falwell, and Pat Robertson.

00:43:35.540 Amazing.

00:43:36.160 Stepped into the breach when the country needed it.

00:43:40.040 Kelly Yates.

00:43:41.420 The holidays.

00:43:42.000 I've wanted to do this so many times.

00:43:43.280 The news has been so intense.

00:43:44.460 We've had to juggle this.

00:43:46.040 Talk to me about etiquette.

00:43:47.240 You're Miss Etiquette.

00:43:48.200 You run a school of etiquette.

00:43:49.480 You consult on etiquette.

00:43:51.760 Talk to me about Christmas etiquette.

00:43:53.580 What for people doing?

00:43:54.620 A lot of people get Christmas parties.

00:43:55.940 They still have to go the day even after Christmas up through New Year's.

00:43:59.940 Christmas etiquette.

00:44:01.040 What is it and how can people apply it, ma'am?

00:44:04.800 Yes.

00:44:05.220 Well, I have some wonderful tips, actually, on hosting.

00:44:08.160 If you are organising any social gathering over Christmas, what you want to make sure is to get the invitations out as soon as possible and include a date, time, dress code.

00:44:21.360 Do include what time the party finishes so people know when to leave and if there's going to be hors d'oeuvres or a full meal so people can plan and know what to expect in advance.

00:44:33.840 Dress code is very important.

00:44:37.020 You can really have fun over the Christmas period with a black tie or it could be as simple as you like with a Christmas jumper, which is called Ugly Sweater in America.

00:44:49.900 And I think it's quite charming and fun because you think of the movie Bridget Jones' Diary with the dashing Mr. Darcy when he first met Bridget Jones and he had this Christmas sweater on.

00:45:04.180 And it was so fun.

00:45:05.700 It brings a smile to people's face and that's what it's all about.

00:45:09.220 But that's more for, you know, family gathering, not for an elegant, you know, dining event.

00:45:16.520 So the table setting is very important.

00:45:21.180 First impressions are everything.

00:45:23.020 You really want to make it warm and inviting.

00:45:26.260 And the centerpiece is quite important.

00:45:29.200 You don't want anything tall and extravagant that's going to distract from people actually seeing one another because you don't want to be like a jack in the box popping up and down to try and make polite conversation.

00:45:42.820 It needs to be lower than eye level and it needs to be something like this.

00:45:55.340 You know, a little point of setup.

00:45:57.240 By the way, so we have a big podcast and radio audience.

00:46:01.520 You just showed, talk to people, just describe what you just put up because I want to make sure people that are not watching on TV or streaming understand what you just did.

00:46:09.660 What, the point of setup?

00:46:13.580 That can be very simple.

00:46:15.680 You can get a point of setup anywhere and it's just lovely.

00:46:19.320 So it has to be below eye level so it doesn't distract.

00:46:24.020 Holly is very important to have around the house to welcome people.

00:46:28.000 This is a wonderful Christian symbolism of God's sacrifice.

00:46:32.580 The red berries represent the blood of Christ and the prickly leaves represent the crucifixion.

00:46:41.580 And what I really like about it is that the green stays green all year round and that represents eternal life.

00:46:50.940 So that's really lovely.

00:46:52.620 Mistletoe is a lovely custom.

00:46:54.680 It started in the 18th century with servants in England and they would put it up high and it was considered bad luck to not kiss.

00:47:10.680 But the etiquette rule is you don't want to force your kiss on somebody.

00:47:15.860 It's polite to ask and not just assume.

00:47:19.280 Only kiss somebody that wants to be kissed.

00:47:21.300 And it's a lovely tradition really, but you should definitely have this in your home.

00:47:27.000 Is the mistletoe, is that appropriate?

00:47:29.220 I thought it was people that had like a relationship or part of the family.

00:47:32.540 Is the mistletoe tradition broader than that?

00:47:36.560 Yes, that's why it's important to ask beforehand and not just assume.

00:47:41.660 Is that an English tradition or is that from Germany or from Scandinavia?

00:47:50.360 It came from early 18th century England with servants and was considered bad luck if you refused a kiss. 0.92

00:47:59.280 But it's best to keep it brisk and remember it's not a snog.

00:48:03.400 I got you.

00:48:06.680 We got a few minutes.

00:48:07.880 Just a couple of things.

00:48:08.900 Number one, on the on the invitations, how you recommend on invitations to either New Year's or Christmas parties, how early do you send them out?

00:48:18.400 What is your recommendation?

00:48:20.440 I recommend as early as possible, at least two weeks before.

00:48:23.860 What about RSVP, particularly people getting them?

00:48:28.560 I know a lot of folks plan parties, either too many people show up or not enough people.

00:48:33.080 What's your recommendation?

00:48:34.480 What's the proper etiquette for RSVP?

00:48:38.200 Everybody should RSVP the host so that host can plan in advance and knows exactly how many people are going to show up.

00:48:45.940 That's the etiquette rule. 1.00

00:48:48.020 Yes.

00:48:48.360 And what about what about what about the dress when you're hosting a party during the Christmas period?

00:48:55.360 What do you recommend to most people about the attire?

00:49:00.720 Well, I always say dress your best if there's not a dress code, but it is best to have a dress code so people know what to expect beforehand.

00:49:10.140 So you recommend if you're hosting a party, put a dress code in.

00:49:12.820 OK, got it.

00:49:13.620 Continue on.

00:49:14.300 We've got about two minutes.

00:49:15.120 Make sure your table is beautiful.

00:49:18.280 Don't put paper napkins on the table because paper napkins are suitable for children's parties, not adults.

00:49:25.420 This is a time to showcase your your finest china and silverware and linen napkins.

00:49:33.100 Make sure you use best your best linen napkins.

00:49:36.800 Glassware.

00:49:37.760 I recommend crystal and always serve your guests on a tray.

00:49:42.620 It's much more elegant than just passing a glass if you hand it on a tray and preferably a silver tray, of course.

00:49:54.680 And if you pass it to your a glass of wine to your guests, always hold it by the stem so it's easier to pick up and you have that poised position.

00:50:03.600 So it looks more elegant.

00:50:04.820 And if you are opening up a bottle of champagne, make sure you don't point it at anybody.

00:50:13.740 And you pour it when you pour it.

00:50:17.320 Actually, you do a little twist and that way you don't spill it, spill the champagne.

00:50:21.860 Hey, Kelly, we got to bounce.

00:50:23.880 But where do people you have a school that teaches etiquette?

00:50:27.840 You have a consulting firm.

00:50:28.980 But where can people go, particularly for the holiday season, what we just talked about on your website?

00:50:34.500 Where do they go to find out all the ins and outs of hosting a Christmas or holiday party?

00:50:41.740 They can just visit me.

00:50:43.040 It's really easy.

00:50:43.840 Lady etiquette dot com.

00:50:45.400 And I'm also on social media at the Lady Etiquette on Instagram and Lady Etiquette Academy on Facebook.

00:50:52.840 Now, you do also have a you have an apparel line.

00:50:57.200 Where do people go for that?

00:50:58.360 I remember in Tampa, we were there for you were there for the Turning Point conference.

00:51:03.740 You had a I think a beach wear.

00:51:05.760 Where do people go for your apparel?

00:51:08.280 It's called swanswimwear dot com.

00:51:10.780 And it's a retro line inspired by Golden Hollywood.

00:51:15.320 And it's it's beautiful.

00:51:17.100 It's all comes up quite high.

00:51:18.600 So it's more modest and classy and it's it's beautiful line.

00:51:24.600 I'm very proud of it.

00:51:25.380 So go check it out at swanswimwear dot com.

00:51:28.800 We need modesty and class.

00:51:31.260 Absolutely.

00:51:32.060 One important tip, if I may give at Christmas, remember to say Merry Christmas or Happy, Happy Christmas, not Happy Holidays, because Happy Holidays is a bit disingenuous.

00:51:43.380 And the truth should not be shamed.

00:51:45.640 You know, it is Merry Christmas.

00:51:46.940 It's all about celebrating Christ.

00:51:50.000 You know, New Year's Eve or July 4th.

00:51:53.560 We don't say Happy Holidays.

00:51:55.560 So there's no need to shame this.

00:51:57.920 We are going to see you at AmFest.

00:52:00.640 Until then, Merry Christmas.

00:52:02.460 We'll be back at 10 a.m.

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Bannon's War Room - December 16, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 912： Three Giants： Falwell, Dobson, And Robertson

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