In this episode, Peter Bystron talks about his recent trip to the United States, his time in New York, and why he thinks the Trump administration is trying to build a new relationship with its natural allies in Europe. He also talks about the new US National Security Strategy, and the growing influence of the Alternative for Deutschland (AFD) party in the Bundestag.
00:05:41.660You know, on one side, we are very interested in what the U.S. government is doing with the investigation of the weaponization of justice against the opposition.
00:05:55.680We are facing the same threat in Europe.
00:06:00.400I mean, you are talking to a guy who had a 27 home searching on myself, on my friends, in my surrounding, in my case.
00:06:06.840And there are many, many others, you know, there are people like David Bendels, the chief editor of Deutschlandkurier,
00:06:14.440who just got a seven-month-in-prison sentence in a trial just because his magazine published a meme with the interior minister
00:06:25.660holding up a piece of paper saying, I hate freedom of expression.
00:06:30.940And I mean, besides that that's true, it's just a meme, you know, and this is absolutely unlawful to charge a chief editor of a magazine for this.
00:06:43.380You know, this is breaking our constitution.
00:06:46.320This is violation of everything what used to be European values in the past.
00:06:53.760And there are many other examples like this.
00:06:57.900So we exchanged on this and how to handle it.
00:07:01.960And we strongly, we are now, we decided that we will do also investigations, parliamentarian investigations,
00:07:12.840as the U.S. government is doing in the U.S.
00:07:18.860So we will do it in the European Parliament, we will do it in the German Parliament,
00:07:21.860and this will be the start of a parliamentarian investigation on those cases.
00:07:31.280And on the other side, and this is really very important also,
00:07:34.920the Department of Justice was very interesting on the results of our work, of our investigations in Europe,
00:07:41.240because we discovered that the European Union is heavily financing Americans' NGOs, U.S. NGOs.
00:07:55.860The first case is the NGO called OCCRP.
00:08:02.380And quite nobody knows it, but it's very influential.
00:08:05.000The boss of this NGO, Mr. Sullivan, he stated in front of TV cameras that his organization is responsible for regime changes in five or maybe six countries.
00:08:19.280He wasn't sure if it's five or six, but he was sure that his organization is responsible for that.
00:08:24.660And knowing this, I just have to add this, the OCCRP members are the biggest publishing houses in Europe.
00:08:35.680And they had been secretly financed through the OCCRP over decades from a U.S. budget.
00:08:43.600And they received information, most likely from secret services.
00:08:49.440And they were not allowed to disclose this source of information.
00:08:54.380And they were even not allowed to disclose that they are financed from the United States.
00:09:01.320And Donald Trump stopped the financing of this NGO through the USAID.
00:13:21.600He always said, OK, we can work together, but it has to be legal.
00:13:26.660But they created this material, six hours.
00:13:30.860They put it somewhere, and they waited two years.
00:13:37.040And then, two years later, just 10 days before the election for the European Parliament, OCCRP media started a scandal.
00:13:48.380They published just six minutes, manipulated six minutes of this recording, and they said, this is a scandal, there was a corruption, blah, blah, blah.
00:13:57.800They put down the FPO party from 28% down to 17.5%, so nearly 10%, minus the government fell apart, and the election was heavily manipulated.
00:14:19.380You will see the results of the election would be completely different.
00:14:23.220And those were two German media, Der Spiegel and Süddeutsche Zeitung, who started this campaign.
00:14:34.200Strache won all trials afterwards, because he sued everybody who he could.
00:14:40.640He won everything, but it didn't help him, because the election was over.
00:15:33.080I just want to put the context to what Peter Bystrom was saying before the break, because this is so important.
00:15:38.820You have the idea in America that money being spent by USAID around the world is working towards eliminating malaria in Africa and that sort of thing.
00:15:49.620But it is also being used to subvert the democratic process here in continental Europe and specifically to campaign against, to work against MAGA's natural allies in continental Europe at election time.
00:16:10.360Now, Peter Bystrom, come back and finish this point, because my memory of this then is that the Ibiza non-scandal, which effectively, I think, if memory serves me correctly, destroyed the political career of the then-chancellor, Sebastian Kurz.
00:16:31.980And you were saying it hit the FPO very badly in the elections.
00:16:36.900Now, the FPO, the Austrian Freedom Party, is massively anti-invasion.
00:16:43.360Like the AFD, it's the natural sister party of the AFD.
00:16:46.380The AFD is in Germany, the FPO is in Austria.
00:16:52.020And that scandal, inverted commas, that manufactured synthetic scandal, worked to destroy the political momentum of a natural MAGA partner in continental Europe.
00:17:15.460American taxpayers don't know this because the American media is misrepresenting the truth to them, doing what the mainstream media does naturally.
00:17:26.440It keeps you unaware of what you don't know and misinformed about what you do know.
00:17:32.600Peter Bystrom, please continue this point, because it's important to know that when President Trump moves to suppress USAID, it's not because he wants small African kids to die of malaria.
00:17:48.540It's because that is an agency that is out of control in the United States, not only acting with U.S. taxpayers' money to manipulate elections on continental Europe, but it's also, as we mentioned just before, being used to create pro-Zelensky propaganda.
00:18:09.680As I say, $4 million is the figure I've seen quoted in the press to bribe Time magazine to make Zelensky their man of the year.
00:18:19.520And we'll talk about Ukraine, because there have been important developments.
00:18:24.600But please just finish this point, because it is so important.
00:18:30.380And what President Trump is doing now, not only with the suppression of USAID, but also with the U.S. national security strategy, this is so important.
00:18:41.160And it is what we here in continental Europe, Peter Bystrom, what we have been crying out for from this administration.
00:18:49.220And it's now following through, right?
00:18:54.600Yeah, look, I think the era of mass migration is over.
00:19:08.100And you said it, your natural partners in Europe, we, AFD, are the freedoms decades, you know, the last 10 years, since 2015, very intensively.
00:19:22.040And at that time, the Freedom Party was in the Austrian government.
00:19:31.860And they were saying as well, the era of mass migration is over.
00:19:35.860As Donald Trump is saying it now, they were even doing it, you know.
00:19:41.240And at that time, in the U.S., the official U.S. security strategy was stating the total opposite, you know.
00:19:54.740It said, like, we have to promote migration, we should organize, and so on, and so on.
00:20:03.280So they were really pushing for migration.
00:20:06.080And now imagine what, for American taxpayers' money.
00:20:23.700Wentz who said only 17% of the USAID money went for what you said, the little black kids in Africa, and, you know, so they don't get malaria.
00:20:38.240But the other 83% were used for regime changes, manipulation of election, and so on, and so on.
00:20:47.920And it happened even at the last European election.
00:20:52.960And I know it because I was target of it, one of the targets.
00:20:56.820And it was, again, with the same pattern.
00:20:59.680Some secret services created a blackmail material, like then in Ibiza.
00:21:06.720This time it was called Voice of Europe.
00:21:10.640And they said, there is a website in Prague created by Ukrainian refugees.
00:21:17.400And this website is a tool of Putin's propaganda, and it will influence the elections and the election to the European Parliament.
00:21:34.160What they're doing is the very thing, and this always takes place, the very thing that they're accusing you of that you're not doing is what they are doing themselves.
00:21:53.620In our case, it was that they created, you know, a blackmailing campaign.
00:21:59.960They said they have a secret service material, like with Ibiza.
00:22:04.800But this time they even didn't show it.
00:22:07.160No one ever saw this secret service material.
00:22:10.900But they accused the website, which was created by Ukrainian refugees in Prague, called Voice of Europe.
00:22:20.480They said, oh, this website was a tool of Putin's propaganda.
00:22:27.720And through this website, the whole elections to the European Parliament across all Europe should be manipulated.
00:22:36.600And in addition to that, many politicians who gave an interview to this website, they had been bribed by Putin.
00:22:46.560They received millions of euros in cash.
00:22:50.380I mean, this sounds already stupid, but one Czech journalist, he was just proving this, you know, and he looked on the website and said, wait a second, wait a second.
00:23:05.220And how a website of Ukrainian refugees, which has like five likes on YouTube for their videos, how can they influence the whole election in the Czech Republic?
00:23:16.940But this question, this work was not done by the OCCRP media, the biggest media houses across Europe.
00:23:27.560They did over 250 articles only about me in Germany and more other in other countries on colleagues of mine who are also EU critical and who were against the war in Ukraine.
00:23:42.780So they blackmailed us weeks before the election to the European Parliament, and it had a really tremendous effect.
00:23:54.860And some of those colleagues, like a colleague in Netherlands, he even didn't pass to the European Parliament because he was pushed under the 5% level.
00:24:05.340So, again, the majorities in the current European Parliament were heavily manipulated by campaigns, media campaigns, done by OCCRP media.
00:25:18.860We don't have the majorities for that.
00:25:20.660We can only discover what they have done, what they have paid, what they have financed.
00:25:26.340We can follow the money, and we are doing it.
00:25:29.660Due to the manipulated majorities in the European Parliament, we can do it.
00:25:35.700But this is the point, if the election wasn't manipulated, if the election wasn't stolen, we would have the majority maybe, you know,
00:25:44.680and then the things would look completely in a different way.
00:25:49.660It's important, I think, for our American audience to realise that in exactly the same way the presidential election,
00:26:01.220President Trump's second victory in 2020 was stolen, in exactly the same way the same people were involved in putting their thumb on the scale
00:26:12.080in the European Union for the same reasons as well.
00:26:14.680Only the problem is that now they're not going to get away with it anymore because President Trump has won in 2024,
00:26:22.820and now he's sort of not only in the United States but also in the European Union moving to stop these outrages against democracy from taking place again.
00:26:33.480Folks, we'll continue this theme in two minutes after this short break.
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00:29:49.540Back on with the show then with Peter Bystrom.
00:29:52.680So we were saying just before the break that I think one of the consequences of the positive consequences of Trump's third victory in 2024 is that he's now able to redress some of the actions of the American deep state,
00:30:16.360which has been trying successfully to alter the outcome of elections here in continental Europe.
00:30:23.880Peter Bystrom, from your perch there in the European Parliament, do you not think it is strange that the very paladins who have launched how many 20, 24 home invasions, 27, they've invaded your home 27 times because they say you are anti-democratic.
00:30:45.080Is it not strange to you that the very people who are doing this themselves are involved in the anti-democratic undermining of actual election victories and using American taxpayer money to pervert the course of the democratic process?
00:31:03.060Does that not strike you somewhat as ironic?
00:31:09.620This is a classical, yeah, it's Orwell, Orwell, 2.0 we say in Germany, you know, and of course, those people implemented laws in Germany against the opposition which are saying they're called laws against the delegitimation of the state.
00:31:34.920So if you're criticizing their bad governance, they are saying they are not, that we are not criticizing them, but that we would de-legitimate the state, the whole state, you know, but in fact, they are legitimating the state, the whole constitution and everything that they're doing.
00:32:11.680And the Trump administration is very, very straight in defeating this misbehavior within the state and that this is what lets us back to the national security strategy.
00:32:25.680And one of those points which are stated there is the protection of core rights and liberties.
00:32:32.680And the United States says, of course, we are a country of the free, but there is also a very nice sentence towards the rest of the world, towards European Union, and I would like to quote it.
00:32:47.680We will oppose elite-driven anti-democratic restriction on core liberties in Europe.
00:32:56.680And this is exactly what hits our enemies most.
00:33:01.680They see that we have the support of Donald Trump, of his government.
00:33:06.680And this is what created the panic around our visit in Washington, D.C. and in New York.
00:33:16.680Now, tell me about that, because you were part of that delegation, the AFD delegation, over to America last week.
00:33:24.680Tell me more about the meetings that you had, because you were saying earlier how you met with Ed Martin and followers of the war.
00:33:31.680And we'll know that Ed Martin's a great guy.
00:33:34.680And you also went, I think, to the New York Stock Exchange and what have you.
00:33:39.680Tell me, as far as you're able to say publicly, what are you specifically asking for from the U.S. administration now as to how they can put the national security strategy into practice?
00:33:56.680Did you tell us, as I say, as far as you're able to talk publicly about this?
00:34:01.680And as you're intimating just a moment or so ago, this is why the European establishment is now sort of absolutely terrified of this growing relationship between the AFD and the Trump administration, right?
00:34:19.680Of course, because, you know, we are facing a tremendous oppression of the opposition within Germany, within the European Union since years.
00:34:28.680There are cases you wouldn't believe, you know.
00:34:32.680There was a guy called Michael Balwig.
00:34:35.680He was the leader of the opposition during the corona times.
00:34:38.680He was organizing demonstrations against the government, which were absolutely peaceful, absolutely democratic.
00:34:44.680It's all covered through our constitution.
00:36:25.680Now she's living in the U.S., and she was asking for asylum.
00:36:28.680So we are in the moment we have such a situation in Germany and in the European Union that our citizens are living the country and seeking for asylum in the United States of America.
00:36:45.680I've seen similar cases where parents who want to homeschool their children have fled to the United States seeking political asylum for the same thing.
00:36:56.680I just want to come back to the point that you mentioned that this guy, this opposition leader, had nine months in jail without trial and was later found to be innocent.
00:37:06.680Does that not delegitimize the German state?
00:37:16.680They accused him of some taxation fraud.
00:37:20.680So they said, okay, he should pay some taxes to the state, and he committed some fraud.
00:37:25.680After the nine months come out that not he committed a fraud, a taxation fraud.
00:37:34.680But the state is owing him more than €200,000 in taxes to be paid back.
00:37:43.680Well, of course, what else is this than a delegitimation of the whole juridical system of the whole state if you do something like this?
00:37:57.680So it means if we would be in power, I think we would be able to put in jail those people who implemented those laws about the delegitimation of the states because they are all doing it.
00:38:14.680So they could go into jail after a few weeks.
00:38:19.680So this would be exactly what's taking place in America right now because some people are saying that President Trump is using the DOJ to persecute his enemies.
00:38:33.680In reality, what's taking place right now is a correction because it was under the Biden regime and Merrick Garland that the weaponized DOJ was used against Donald Trump and his associates.
00:38:46.680They sent Steve Bannon to jail for four months, right?
00:38:54.680So the argument is the people who perverted the course of justice under Biden now need to undergo the same process, not for revenge or for vendetta, but to ensure that that corruption of the judicial process never happens again.
00:39:12.680And it's the same thing as what you're talking about, hopefully, when the AFD will take power at the next elections in Germany.
00:39:22.680They're misusing the heuristical system.
00:39:25.680They're misusing all the power they have, you know.
00:39:28.680Now it's very popular in Germany to ride people's houses just because they posted something on Facebook or on X, which is absolutely anti-constitutional.
00:39:41.680Or what is also very popular is to charge people for weaving.
00:39:49.680And they're always saying, oh, they are doing a Hitler salute, you know.
00:39:54.680I had to pay €11,000 fine just because I published a picture, a photo of Angela Merkel who was weaving.
00:40:03.680And they previously, more than a thousand times, the Attorney General said, no, Angela Merkel on this picture is not doing a Hitler salute.
00:40:13.680This is a former German Chancellor and she's just weaving.
00:41:52.680The final thing I want to discuss with you today, and this was development a short while ago, was the fact that Ursula von der Leyen's intention to confiscate some,
00:42:07.680about $250 billion worth of Russian assets in order to fund the Ukrainian side of the war, was rejected.
00:42:21.680Belgium, I think, was pretty much, I mean, you have Hungary there as well.
00:42:25.680Italy surprisingly opposed this manoeuvre.
00:42:29.680I wonder whether this represents a more long-term reorientation of the Maloney government.
00:42:36.680Hungary, Italy, but specifically Belgium had opposed this, Belgium holding most of the Russian assets in question,
00:42:44.680saying if it were to do this, it would fundamentally undermine international confidence in its financial infrastructure,
00:42:55.680quite rightly as well, because it would be extrajudicial.
00:42:59.680So tell me your view in Germany on this.
00:43:03.680Is the opinion starting to move against the Mets government right now with regards to Ukraine?
00:43:11.680How are people reacting to the government's intention to reintroduce conscription, for example?
00:43:23.680I see a number of polls which say that the German youth don't even want to fight for Germany if it were to be attacked, let alone Ukraine.
00:43:32.680What is the view right now on regards to Ukraine and the ending of the war?
00:43:38.680Even if Ursula von der Leyen is able to get this $105 billion loan to Ukraine, it's absolutely clear that Ukraine isn't going to be able to win this war.
00:43:51.680So it's just a means, a technical means of making the suffering and the manslaughter go on even longer.
00:44:01.680Tell me from your perspective now, what is happening in Germany with regards to this?
00:44:06.680Look, the same people who destroyed completely German Bundeswehr in the last years.
00:44:13.680The same people who destroyed the national crowd of the whole nations for decades, you know,
00:44:21.680who were throwing away the German flags into the bin.
00:44:26.680They are now asking the people to defend the country with their lives.
00:44:35.680Of course, nobody wants to do it, especially not for Ukraine, because we know that, firstly, it will change nothing.