Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 920： Reparations For J6; Fired From The Symphony Due To DEI

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00:00:30.000 Against the odds, our faith that our days of this nation will be renewed is still there.

00:00:35.260 We've formed bonds that can never be broken.

00:00:37.900 I, along with my brothers and sisters, weather the storm.

00:00:40.360 We will never stop fighting for this country.

00:00:42.140 And my friends and my brothers have also helped me through this tough time.

00:00:46.020 Because we are what makes this country the greatest country on this planet.

00:00:49.100 And this moment, and this anthem, is living.

00:00:52.120 We sing for all the people who never made it home.

00:01:00.000 Through us, their stories will be told.

00:01:05.180 We stand as one.

00:01:08.120 United in this fight for liberty.

00:01:13.520 Justice for all our voices ring.

00:01:18.340 The anthem of the free.

00:01:20.360 Freedom ain't free, no it comes with a price.

00:01:26.560 Rest in peace Charlie, can't believe they took your life.

00:01:29.880 Didn't make it back home to your children and wife.

00:01:33.000 By any means we have to keep freedom of speech alive.

00:01:36.600 Hey, rest in peace.

00:01:37.860 Corey all the fires that you fight.

00:01:39.920 To the cops and military that been fighting day and night.

00:01:43.160 So we can have liberty and our God giving rights.

00:01:46.300 To all the mothers and fathers that's just trying to pretend they child.

00:01:49.920 Hey, freedom worth dying for.

00:01:52.020 Dreams worth fighting for.

00:01:53.740 God got us.

00:01:54.540 I promise that's the reason I smile.

00:01:56.360 I promise that's the reason I smile.

00:01:56.380 I promise that's the reason I smile.

00:01:56.400 I promise that's the reason I smile.

00:01:58.300 I promise that's the reason I smile.

00:01:59.080 And I promise that I'm in the world in 2026.

00:02:00.440 Five years to the day of Patriots Day.

00:02:03.240 What did they say in the song?

00:02:06.320 We're going to end the introduction of the song.

00:02:08.420 We'll never stop fighting for this country.

00:02:11.120 That's the folks of January 6th, the J6ers. 1.00

00:02:14.560 Julie Kelly is going to walk us through the testimony of Jack Smith.

00:02:17.980 And we're going to talk about that in a moment.

00:02:19.700 We're packed in this hour.

00:02:20.920 So let me get on with it.

00:02:22.900 Enrique Terrio, sir, you were not even on, I think, the property that day.

00:02:27.160 And the Justice Department went after you.

00:02:29.980 And I believe you got 22 years or 25 years in prison.

00:02:34.000 I want to say something about some of the unsung heroes.

00:02:36.400 Your mother is a patriot and hero.

00:02:39.120 You're standing here today because of the fight your mother had.

00:02:42.460 I would go to these conferences.

00:02:44.620 I would go to the CPACs.

00:02:46.460 I always saw your mom.

00:02:48.240 And she was sitting there and she was fighting for her son.

00:02:51.200 And it just, I can't tell you what a warrior she is.

00:02:55.300 I mean, Steve, she's great.

00:02:58.880 She's amazing.

00:03:00.140 And to tell you, you know, I knew she had it in her.

00:03:03.040 But I didn't know how much she had in her until I went away.

00:03:07.900 When I went away, she kind of, you know, she wasn't pro-Trump.

00:03:12.380 She wasn't pro-anything.

00:03:13.900 You know, she just went to work 9 to 5. 0.97

00:03:16.220 And when I went away, you know, like her eyes opened.

00:03:20.480 And, like, she didn't stop.

00:03:22.300 And she didn't stop until, literally, I was already pardoned.

00:03:26.340 And she didn't stop until I was on my flight back from Dallas to Miami.

00:03:31.340 So I really appreciate her and everything she's done.

00:03:36.520 I mean, she was totally apolitical. 0.72

00:03:38.840 When we talk about low information, low propensity voters,

00:03:42.680 your mom, it's not that they're intelligence or education.

00:03:45.080 They're just not that into politics.

00:03:46.460 It's just not part of their lives.

00:03:47.940 She was a classic person that really didn't pay attention.

00:03:50.480 It was only when J6 happened, she realized how rigged the system is, sir.

00:03:56.980 And she did.

00:03:58.580 You know, I think the most political comment my mom ever said to me is in 2016,

00:04:03.340 I was trying to turn out some voters for Trump.

00:04:06.060 And she's like, no, I'm going to vote for Hillary. 0.99

00:04:10.220 And I go, why, mom?

00:04:12.060 And she's like, because she's a woman.

00:04:14.000 You know, I was like, you know what?

00:04:16.020 That's why you wanted to vote for her.

00:04:18.380 You know, go ahead.

00:04:19.900 But yeah, she's full mega now. 1.00

00:04:23.480 Ultra mega.

00:04:25.200 Talk to me about your journey.

00:04:27.400 It's been five years.

00:04:28.260 Today, this is historic.

00:04:29.620 And the commemoration you guys had, I think, was incredible.

00:04:33.300 Real America's Voice, the press conferences, all of it.

00:04:36.200 We've just done a film.

00:04:37.300 By the way, go to iTunes.

00:04:38.520 Download the song.

00:04:39.920 Let's keep it as number one.

00:04:42.020 Go to the RAV app.

00:04:43.920 You get the film.

00:04:44.700 The film is very moving.

00:04:46.640 Your journey.

00:04:48.160 I spent four months in federal prison.

00:04:50.280 I can tell folks, four months in federal prison is a long time.

00:04:53.340 They sent you, they had you for 22 years, was it?

00:04:57.580 25 years?

00:04:59.220 It was, I got a 22-year sentence.

00:05:02.020 I did three years.

00:05:03.600 And the full time that I was there was spent in solitary confinement.

00:05:07.180 And they moved me 40 different times in those three years.

00:05:11.760 We call that diesel therapy in prison, right?

00:05:18.440 Were you at mediums?

00:05:19.980 Did they have you in mediums?

00:05:21.800 People should understand.

00:05:22.580 Yeah, I was-

00:05:22.900 Stephen K.

00:05:23.400 Bannon would last 24 hours in a medium.

00:05:25.400 Medium or gladiator schools.

00:05:27.020 I mean, that is, they are the toughest.

00:05:28.840 Because the penitentiaries are tough, but people are in isolation or in solitary.

00:05:33.500 In mediums, it's gladiator school.

00:05:36.040 Those are the most dangerous places in the United States of America, sir.

00:05:40.840 Yeah, and I was in one of the most dangerous mediums in the country.

00:05:44.220 It was Pollock medium.

00:05:45.560 And what's crazy is our points, and you know, you went through this, my points were camp points.

00:05:53.180 So they manipulated their own system to go and boost me to a low and then boost me to a medium.

00:05:59.600 But I didn't spend a lot of time in the medium, Steve, because I was moving around 40 different federal prisons, county jails, and federal holdovers in that time.

00:06:11.160 So being here today in D.C. was truly magical.

00:06:14.480 I've been in D.C. since my release.

00:06:17.560 But today was truly magical because it's the first January 6th I've ever been in D.C.

00:06:22.820 I've never been to prison.

00:06:24.680 I mean, I've never been to D.C. on the January 6th.

00:06:29.600 Wow.

00:06:31.480 Enrique, hold on for one second.

00:06:32.900 I want to bring Julie Kelly in. 1.00

00:06:34.700 Julie, today of all days, you're not a lawyer.

00:06:38.420 I mean, you started going to these and sitting in to these courthouses, and you came to us.

00:06:44.700 You started writing, and you said the American people are going to be shocked of how rigged this thing is, how dishonest it is, how corrupt it is, how wrong it is.

00:06:53.280 Talk to us about that, and particularly you got an opportunity to see Jack Smith's deposition.

00:06:57.880 Your thoughts and observations, ma'am.

00:06:59.980 And just kind of thinking back, understanding what the Biden DOJ was doing to American citizens, what the FBI was doing.

00:07:14.320 You know, getting calls late at night, getting calls over the weekend from people at the D.C. Gulag, some of the people who were charged alongside with Enrique.

00:07:24.460 And then trying to figure out how to learn legalese enough to interpret that for regular Americans, including myself, to make sense of what they were doing, holding people on pretrial detention for nonviolent offenses, like Enrique, for example.

00:07:41.960 And so it's hard to believe it's been five years, but you can sense, Steve, the frustration and the fury of Democrats, never Trumpers in the media, that this has backfired so spectacularly in their faces.

00:07:59.100 Because they really thought that January 6th would result in the death of the MAGA movement, the isolation of Donald Trump, and the imprisonment of Donald Trump.

00:08:08.120 And not only did that not happen, people on social media are just mocking January 6th and mocking reporters and Democrats who are lying about it, perpetuating the idea.

00:08:19.420 It was this armed insurrection incited by Donald Trump.

00:08:22.900 They never saw this coming.

00:08:24.760 So I know for me as a reporter and someone who knew a lot of these defendants and their families, including Enrique and his mom, I think his mom was the first person to call me on January 20th to let me know that she had heard people were being released from prison.

00:08:40.620 I think she knew before I did.

00:08:43.240 So, but of course, I covered the Proud Boys trial as well.

00:08:46.440 I saw what the prosecutors did to Enrique and his co-defendants with the help of Judge Tim Kelly.

00:08:53.140 I think just one of the most egregious cases that the DOJ brought against them.

00:08:59.320 So, but I think what the next piece we have to talk about, Steve, and I know Enrique, and he will agree, I know, is the accountability measures that have to be imposed for the people who did this to American citizens.

00:09:11.220 The prosecutors, the DOJ officials, the FBI officials, the investigators, agents, everyone who was involved in this unconstitutional, egregious, unprecedented attack on the constitutional rights of thousands of American citizens have to face consequences.

00:09:28.360 And this is the year it has to happen.

00:09:29.820 So, what do you mean by that?

00:09:33.600 I mean, because the people that came after me all ran over, all crawled over to the White House and all got pardons, including the staff.

00:09:40.220 And the staff, one of the staff members, perjured herself.

00:09:42.360 I didn't really have a trial.

00:09:43.460 It was a joke.

00:09:44.080 They wouldn't let me put on a defense, so I just sat there.

00:09:46.960 But they put on a witness.

00:09:48.580 She just sat there and perjured herself.

00:09:49.820 And then they all crawled on their bellies to the White House and got preemptive pardons, which never happened in the country's history.

00:09:57.000 The accountability, what happened to Enrique, what happened to the Proud Boys, what happened to all the J6ers. 1.00

00:10:02.340 Some of these people, and as our guest at the top of the first hour, Sarah McAbee said, they're not broken, but they're bent.

00:10:10.860 And some of them were bent a lot.

00:10:11.920 I mean, this took Enrique Terrio and folks, these medium security prisons are kill zones.

00:10:20.200 To send a man who did nothing on January 6th for 22 years to a medium, whoever did that should be sent to prison themselves.

00:10:30.840 So what are we going to do about it?

00:10:32.060 And when is it going to happen, ma'am?

00:10:34.620 I don't know, Steve.

00:10:36.360 I mean, the MAGA base is very frustrated today.

00:10:38.740 In addition to just mocking the January 6th propagandists, there is a lot of frustration justified that this looks like a repeat of Russiagate, where we know what happened.

00:10:50.680 We know who did it.

00:10:52.080 We know the crimes that were committed.

00:10:53.700 Of course, this is on a much broader scale.

00:10:55.860 And they're all going to get away with it.

00:10:57.640 I mean, we talked about Jack Smith's testimony last week.

00:11:00.080 He lied repeatedly to Congress about those two indictments, about what they meant, about the sort of evidence that he had collected.

00:11:07.140 So what's going to happen with him next?

00:11:10.940 There is a pending criminal referral against one of Jack Smith's top henchmen, Tom Windham, sitting at DOJ for obstructing Congress for refusing to answer questions under oath during a subpoena deposition.

00:11:24.340 So, I mean, things have got to happen very quickly.

00:11:30.280 I think the MAGA base was frustrated, but patient in 2025 as the Trump administration, the DOJ, was fielding all of these lawsuits I don't think anyone really saw coming.

00:11:40.300 And the judges, of course, being exposed as nothing more than partisan hacks, which is what we saw in the federal courthouse.

00:11:45.840 Tim Kelly being one of the worst, unfortunately, appointed by Donald Trump.

00:11:49.340 But, you know, where's the impeachment proceedings against Jeb Bosberg?

00:11:55.440 We've been talking about that for months.

00:11:57.820 You had Republican senators who had their phones spied on by Jack Smith.

00:12:03.440 Republican senators like Ted Cruz saying a few months ago, we're going to hold him accountable.

00:12:07.200 Well, what does that look like?

00:12:08.600 Where's the roadmap?

00:12:09.240 So if we don't start seeing things happen in the next few weeks, you're going to see a huge uprising in the MAGA base justified because we cannot let what happened to 1,600 J6ers and the ones who weren't charged. 1.00

00:12:24.100 We should talk about the documents that Rand Paul posted today, 70 pages of FBI documents of a two and a half year investigation into an innocent woman who was snitched on by a former friend.

00:12:36.840 And the FBI physically surveilled her house, meaning her family, four times, put her on the TSA terror watch list, which Enrique is familiar with hearing and talking to J6ers. 1.00

00:12:47.900 And then the summer of 2022, the FBI tells D.C. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, we don't have evidence.

00:12:55.300 We have no facial recognition.

00:12:56.640 She's not in the GO offense warrant, et cetera, et cetera. 0.97

00:12:59.340 Matthew Graves says, I don't care.

00:13:00.620 We're going to prosecute her on misdemeanors anyway.

00:13:03.500 So this is an unprecedented attack on the constitutional rights of thousands of American citizens.

00:13:10.560 And we cannot just let this go with a bunch of letters and hearings that no one is paying attention to.

00:13:17.100 And production of records, which are very helpful.

00:13:20.680 But if that's as far as we get, what's the point?

00:13:25.640 It turns out, too, Peter Navarro tells me, I think the guy that supervised our prosecutions is over at DOJ and got promoted last week.

00:13:33.480 I'm going to get more of that later this week as I get some more details from Dr. Navarro.

00:13:36.920 It got promoted.

00:13:39.140 What is your recommendation?

00:13:40.360 Before we get there, there's no doubt in your mind, and you believe you can prove that, that Jack Smith purged himself under oath, lied under oath on his deposition that he gave, that he was so big he wanted to go in front of Congress on national TV and give it, ma'am?

00:13:56.700 He did.

00:13:58.700 He did.

00:13:59.740 He talked about, I think, a few things that stood out to me.

00:14:03.120 He talked about the president repeatedly obstructing the investigation into the classified documents case.

00:14:10.920 That is a brazen lie.

00:14:12.600 In fact, it was the basis of several weeks of struggle between the FBI and the Department of Justice about authorizing that armed FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago in August of 2022.

00:14:24.980 They were fully cooperating from the very beginning, dating back to the spring of May 2021, then voluntarily producing 15 boxes of documents to Navarro, who was threatening to charge them, even though there's no federal enforcement.

00:14:40.640 It's not a criminal statute, the Presidential Records Act.

00:14:43.820 So they were fully cooperating.

00:14:46.120 So he lied about that.

00:14:47.700 He lied about the charges for January 6th.

00:14:52.340 He said, you know, this is where the evidence led us.

00:14:54.880 The evidence led you to three extremely vague conspiracy statutes, including one that's hardly ever used, conspiracy against rights, that actually Jack Smith and his team should face themselves.

00:15:06.540 And, of course, two of the four counts in the J6 indictment, obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to obstruct, had been tossed by the Supreme Court in June of 2024 when it came to J6 cases.

00:15:18.700 This would have been the same situation for the president.

00:15:21.080 So, and then he stumbled around, you know, who he talked to.

00:15:25.800 We're not even sure, Steve, that he took the oath of office, which appears to be very problematic as an officer of the court.

00:15:32.400 He didn't remember if he took it, who administered it.

00:15:35.300 Was it on Zoom?

00:15:36.260 Was it over the phone?

00:15:37.760 He couldn't say.

00:15:39.840 Then we find out, and this is something I'm writing about this week.

00:15:42.560 Jack Smith actively sought to be involved in the Trump investigation months before he was appointed special counsel.

00:15:50.720 He reached out to Lisa Monaco, the deputy attorney general.

00:15:54.820 You and I have talked about her a lot.

00:15:56.580 Her chief, her chief deputy, and said, I want to be involved.

00:16:02.380 I'm looking to leave The Hague.

00:16:03.760 He was in The Hague with the Kosovo war crimes case.

00:16:06.300 I want to come back to the Department of Justice in the domestic terror unit.

00:16:11.260 What was the domestic terror unit doing?

00:16:13.520 Going after Donald Trump, his associates, and his voters.

00:16:17.180 So the idea that Jack Smith was just plucked out of The Hague, here he was just toiling away, trying to put away, I think it was Kosovo president for war crimes. 0.63

00:16:28.140 Then all of a sudden he just came out of nowhere.

00:16:30.440 That's not it.

00:16:31.240 He actively sought to be part of the effort to prosecute and imprison Donald Trump. 0.97

00:16:38.360 So the guy's a snake. 1.00

00:16:39.880 He's a dirtbag. 0.99

00:16:40.960 His investigators were caught doctoring evidence. 0.92

00:16:44.220 They were caught tampering with evidence, possibly missing evidence.

00:16:50.020 They said towards the end they couldn't find some of the files that had been taken out of those boxes.

00:16:53.960 We know that one of his deputies, Jay Brett, threatened the defense attorney of Donald Trump's co-defendant, Walt Nata, threatened that if he didn't get Walt Nata flip on the president, one of his closest personal aides, that he would make sure that this attorney didn't get a judgeship that he had applied for in D.C.

00:17:12.240 These are the most corrupt, dirtiest prosecutors you can find, and that's saying a lot.

00:17:17.320 So there's plenty of things that Jack Smith and his team can be criminally referred for.

00:17:24.500 Does Congress have the stomach, though, to work with the DOJ and the president and the White House to get that done?

00:17:32.300 I think Republicans in Congress have been the biggest wimps, the biggest obstacles, and that's why we're sitting here now with no indictments.

00:17:38.540 This has to be a high priority in the White House.

00:17:42.740 I know President Trump wants to make it.

00:17:44.100 We'll get to that in a moment.

00:17:46.160 Just hang on.

00:17:46.820 Enrique, a diesel therapy in the Bureau of Prisons is done for the worst hardcore prisoners that just won't get with the program to break people psychologically.

00:17:56.200 What it is, they shackle you, they put you on a bus, and then with none of your belongings, and then every night, every day, you're at a different prison, a different processing.

00:18:05.980 It's to break people psychologically, right?

00:18:08.140 And normally, even after a couple, what they call diesel therapy, you break.

00:18:12.380 You did 40.

00:18:13.620 Do you have any idea who in the Bureau of Prisons ordered that, sir?

00:18:18.640 So I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name right.

00:18:22.000 His name's Crudge.

00:18:23.320 I've already referred him to the DOJ.

00:18:25.500 We also found a whistleblower within the BOP that's willing to come forward and talk about some of those transfers and some of the treatment that came from the BOP, which is an arm of the Department of Justice.

00:18:39.360 And then I want to touch on something that Julie said, too, is the MAGA base is angry.

00:18:46.580 I'm one of those.

00:18:47.920 I understand completely that things take time.

00:18:51.480 Building cases take time.

00:18:52.840 I'm not immune to that.

00:18:54.580 But it's so simple to go into somebody's office in the DOJ and be like, you're fired.

00:18:59.260 You're gone.

00:19:00.060 And one of those people is Jocelyn Ballantyne.

00:19:02.880 And Steve, I don't know if you've heard of Jocelyn Ballantyne, but she was one of the heads of the Capital Siege Division at the DOJ.

00:19:09.460 And currently, she's not only working for the DOJ, she has one of the highest profile cases.

00:19:15.700 She's in charge of one of the highest profile cases in J6 history, which is a pipe bomber case, and along with FBI agent, Special Agent Hanick, which was a special agent in charge of our case.

00:19:27.700 So how aggravated we are, and it comes through because, like, the simple things aren't done.

00:19:36.160 It's not that we haven't gotten these deep state arrests.

00:19:38.360 I really do want the deep state arrests.

00:19:40.320 But, like, the simple things aren't even done.

00:19:43.140 So we're growing impatient, and I'm seeing the MAGA base, including J6ers and regular everyday people, that are just had enough with the appointees. 1.00

00:19:55.320 Let me ask you, if you had a chance to have a few minutes with the president today in the Oval Office at the end of our commemoration of this historic fifth year anniversary,

00:20:05.360 which will be known as Patriot's Day in years to come, what would you tell the president?

00:20:10.720 What are the two or three things?

00:20:11.720 Say, Mr. President, got the greatest respect for you.

00:20:14.420 I know people are working like crazy.

00:20:15.940 There's so much stuff going on.

00:20:17.080 But in regards to this, which is a super high priority for President Trump, he told Charlie Kirk on that stage in December of 2024 after he won that the reason he came back to do that and to go through everything,

00:20:31.040 the bankruptcies, the 92 charges, the 373 years in prison, because they wanted to put him in prison and have him die in prison.

00:20:39.400 He did it because he said, I won the 2020 election, and if that's not sorted out, we're not going to have a country.

00:20:45.560 If they know that they can have a coup and actually steal the country, then we don't have a republic.

00:20:50.720 So what would be the two or three things that you would tell the president of the United States, sir?

00:20:55.260 I would.

00:20:56.380 The first thing is I'd tell them I love them for giving their life back.

00:21:00.440 The second, I would focus on getting some type.

00:21:03.800 I hate using this word.

00:21:05.240 I hate using reparations because it has such a negative connotation to it.

00:21:08.820 But a lot of these J6ers need to get their lives back together. 1.00

00:21:12.380 And I think that the only way that we'll do that is with some type of compensation through lawsuits, torts, or whatever.

00:21:18.340 We're currently suing the United States government.

00:21:20.360 We have a hearing next Thursday.

00:21:21.820 So I want to see what his position on him is, if he can do anything about that.

00:21:27.800 A third, I'd probably tell him I love him again because I would have spent another two decades of my life,

00:21:36.240 which would have been the rest of my life, to be honest with you.

00:21:40.100 And, you know, that's it.

00:21:41.740 I mean, I've got to meet the president more a while ago.

00:21:44.660 And I already told him I love him.

00:21:45.660 You would have gone insane because you're an innocent man and you had your life taken away from it.

00:21:51.240 To free people, this is the kind of demons we're dealing with.

00:21:54.740 He's an innocent man.

00:21:56.500 He's an innocent man in the system.

00:21:58.460 They worked against him to send so many innocent people and destroy their lives.

00:22:02.420 And Enrique's going to have him die in prison, just like they wanted Trump to die in prison, sir.

00:22:07.300 Yeah. 0.95

00:22:08.100 Yeah.

00:22:08.500 And look, what happened to all of us is horrible.

00:22:13.020 And I think that there's a lot of ways that things can be made right.

00:22:17.240 But one thing that I'll never be mad at is the president.

00:22:20.080 I think he's done an amazing job.

00:22:22.580 I'm pro what he did in Venezuela.

00:22:25.860 I just think that his appointees need to really show out for him.

00:22:30.740 Listen.

00:22:31.480 Hey, let me tell you something.

00:22:32.860 Let me tell you something.

00:22:33.780 The most one of the most important people in this thing, because I saw that drama play out, is Julie Kelly.

00:22:38.320 Julie Kelly spent two hours with the president, given all the details, because Julie Kelly had sacrificed her life to go sit in those courtrooms. 1.00

00:22:46.160 And President Trump, and I'm not faulting anybody, because it's very tough to know the details.

00:22:50.420 She knew them.

00:22:51.460 And when the president knew the details, that is one of the most central things that had President Trump thinking, I'm going to either commute them all or pardon them all.

00:23:01.780 But they're all going to go, right, because of what Julie Kelly did.

00:23:05.140 Enrique, we've got to bounce.

00:23:06.140 Where do people go on your social media?

00:23:07.400 We're at the top of the first inning in getting this sorted.

00:23:11.160 We've got to get this sorted inside of DOJ and the FBI.

00:23:14.260 We have to, or we don't have a country.

00:23:15.780 Where do they go, sir?

00:23:17.880 They could go on X right here.

00:23:19.360 It's showing on the screen.

00:23:20.480 X at Noble One.

00:23:21.820 That's spelled out Noble One.

00:23:23.580 Steve, thank you for having me on.

00:23:25.060 Julie, love you.

00:23:26.120 Thank you for always being there.

00:23:27.560 Thank you for being as loyal as you are to the truth, not just to people, but to the truth.

00:23:32.780 So I appreciate you.

00:23:34.260 And thanks, Steve.

00:23:35.220 Thanks again.

00:23:37.400 Thanks.

00:23:37.880 And give your mom a hug.

00:23:39.920 We love her.

00:23:41.080 We will.

00:23:41.820 She's the epitome of the MAGA movement.

00:23:45.040 Julie Kelly, you're a patriot and a hero.

00:23:47.960 Five years.

00:23:49.360 Five years.

00:23:50.080 And we still haven't started, even scratched the surface on the assassination of Ashley Babbitt and others that were killed that day.

00:23:57.540 Your thoughts.

00:23:58.380 What's the two or three things?

00:24:00.040 And I got to tell you, you're a hero because in that week, right before, right before, right before inauguration day, you did yeoman's work.

00:24:09.560 And the reason it was so powerful, you were a witness to it all.

00:24:13.980 You basically gave up your life to go sit in these courtrooms.

00:24:17.100 And I remember seeing you, you were so aghast about what's going on.

00:24:19.520 And when you would tell me this stuff, I'd go, that can't be true.

00:24:22.260 Because some of these guys, including my judge, were all Trump appointees, right?

00:24:27.220 And the horror stories of these judges, the horror stories, the story of this and what legally they did to these citizens is one of the greatest crimes in the history of this republic.

00:24:38.740 Full stop.

00:24:39.620 And that's why it's got to be sorted out.

00:24:41.720 We cannot just kick the can down the road.

00:24:43.600 And if you want to see a bunch of gutless people, those people up on Capitol Hill, they're prepared.

00:24:47.960 Today, they didn't want to be near it.

00:24:50.220 Let's be blunt.

00:24:51.580 They set up this thing over at the Kennedy Center today for this all-day briefing.

00:24:55.360 And I'm all for having conferences and all-day briefings.

00:24:58.060 And they want to get to legislation.

00:24:59.760 I'm 100% support that.

00:25:01.860 But they did it today on January 6th because they didn't want to be near.

00:25:05.260 They didn't want to be near the Capitol to have reporters, oh, what do you think about January 6th?

00:25:10.400 That's how gutless they are.

00:25:11.700 Where do they go, Julie?

00:25:13.540 Get your stuff.

00:25:14.340 Get your material.

00:25:15.880 Well, I'll tell you this, too, Steve.

00:25:17.100 I was told early on after the president won that there were going to be a lot of hearings in 2025 featuring January 6th defendants, their families, their attorneys, et cetera.

00:25:26.480 We got none of that.

00:25:28.660 So a lot of this is the weakness, the lack of accountability originates, I believe, in Congress.

00:25:34.680 So they better step up because people are very frustrated.

00:25:38.120 Where do we go?

00:25:40.140 Substack all of it.

00:25:40.920 Substack declassified with Julie Kelly on Substack and then xjulie__kelly2.

00:25:49.280 Ma'am, if we didn't have you, we wouldn't have anything.

00:25:53.420 This is one of the reasons we put you on the show all the time.

00:25:55.580 If we didn't have Julie Kelly and she had not sacrificed those years of her life to go do this, we wouldn't have anything.

00:26:02.680 She was an eyewitness to what happened and she reported it every day.

00:26:08.740 Reported every day.

00:26:09.580 And if it had not been for Julie Kelly and the credibility she has and the president of the United States, who's a very savvy guy, understood.

00:26:17.820 As soon as you start talking to her, this woman knows what she's talking about.

00:26:21.120 Nobody would have gotten pardoned.

00:26:22.840 Nobody would have gotten commuted.

00:26:25.180 It's Julie Kelly 100%.

00:26:28.440 Ma'am, you're a patriot and hero.

00:26:30.380 Thank you.

00:26:31.860 Back at you, Steve.

00:26:32.780 Thank you.

00:26:37.040 Five years on.

00:26:38.820 Outrageous.

00:26:39.660 To know a young man like Enrique Terrio?

00:26:43.280 22 years in a federal medium security prison?

00:26:47.240 Are you kidding me?

00:26:48.660 That's a death sentence.

00:26:50.200 And they knew it was a death sentence. 0.96

00:26:51.780 Every one of them ought to be keel-hauled. 1.00

00:26:56.080 The most corrupt, disgusting, revolting people in that Justice Department, in that FBI, and in that federal court. 0.99

00:27:03.740 Short break. 0.99

00:27:04.500 Back in a moment.

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00:33:50.740 James Zimmerman joins us.

00:33:52.260 James, you're a clarinetist, a classical musician, trained symphony orchestra, correct, sir?

00:33:58.440 That's right.

00:33:59.120 I'm a symphonic clarinetist by trade, or at least I was.

00:34:04.360 Symphonic.

00:34:04.800 Okay, you've been, and you have a curriculum veto of the schools, everything, and performances.

00:34:11.680 You've been fired not by one.

00:34:13.840 You've been fired by two symphony, highly regarded symphony orchestras, I believe, in the volunteer state, both in Nashville and Knoxville.

00:34:21.620 What in the hell did you do to get fired by two of the top symphony orchestras in the country, sir?

00:34:28.920 Well, my time in the first orchestra of the Nashville Symphony lasted a dozen years. 0.61

00:34:33.880 I resisted a DEI takeover by a temporary black oboist who I thought was my friend.

00:34:41.320 And we had a chance to take him out illegally after a botched blind audition that he won, but I stood up on his behalf.

00:34:48.180 But after that, he did a Jussie Smollett-type narrative about me, harassed management until they couldn't take it anymore,

00:34:55.400 and blackmailed them into firing me so that they could avoid being sued by him for racial discrimination.

00:35:01.560 This is kind of a long and complicated story, but I just wouldn't bend the knee.

00:35:04.860 They kicked me out right before the pandemic.

00:35:06.620 I've been working in tech ever since.

00:35:07.980 My stint in the Knoxville Symphony never really got started.

00:35:11.360 I won a blind audition for them back in September.

00:35:15.120 This means I play for a panel of judges.

00:35:17.260 They don't see who I am.

00:35:18.320 They don't know my race.

00:35:19.180 They don't know my gender, my age, my curriculum vitae, anything about me.

00:35:22.440 They judge me solely on my playing.

00:35:24.220 The most meritocratic system imaginable.

00:35:27.380 And yet, after I won the job, they did a little digging on my history, decided I was too untouchable,

00:35:33.080 and kicked me to the curb and said, we're never going to talk to you about this.

00:35:36.040 So I'm suing them for damages from my time spent practicing and a year's salary,

00:35:40.460 but more importantly, I'm trying to push back against them and send a message to the rest of the industry

00:35:44.980 that this woke stuff has got to stop, because if we don't have the best players in these jobs,

00:35:49.380 we're going to go bankrupt as an industry.

00:35:51.800 There will be no more orchestras, and no more clarinetists in the war room either.

00:35:55.100 I thought, you know, for people that love symphony music, love classical music,

00:36:02.200 I thought when you went and you see people on stage, I thought they were all chosen

00:36:05.860 because they've passed these rigorous auditions, etc.

00:36:10.320 Are you telling this audience that that's not the case, that there's actually not just politics,

00:36:15.780 but kind of DEI has infected this, so they're not meritocracy,

00:36:19.360 so when you're sitting there, you're not hearing the best that was available at the time?

00:36:24.920 Well, they're still mostly meritocratic, but there's all kinds of pressure from the outside

00:36:29.860 to make it easier to diversify the orchestras through these processes.

00:36:33.980 You know, creation of diversity fellowships so we can get more people of color on the stage,

00:36:39.560 advantages in the meritocratic process for minorities or women, 0.73

00:36:43.360 or actually women are the people who have benefited the most from blind auditions. 0.70

00:36:47.120 When blind auditions were instituted 50 years ago,

00:36:49.820 it only took one generation for orchestras to go from virtually all male to 50-50.

00:36:54.900 It's just that some of the, you know, browner minorities have not experienced the same spike

00:37:03.720 in the last 50 years.

00:37:06.440 So there's huge effort.

00:37:08.180 They all say it's because of systemic racism, but it's a lot more complicated than that.

00:37:12.300 I'm certainly not against helping out the underserved and bringing music into communities

00:37:16.780 that haven't been able to afford it historically, but you have to draw the line somewhere.

00:37:21.660 And, you know, telling musicians that they're racist just because they're great players

00:37:26.320 and they haven't done enough of their share to uplift the underserved and, you know,

00:37:32.340 harassing them into struggle sessions and dragging them into HR all the time.

00:37:36.140 It's a nightmare if you're like me, if you're white, male, and Christian, and Catholic, and Republican.

00:37:41.380 And straight.

00:37:44.100 Talk to me about that for a second.

00:37:45.580 When they say it's systematic racism, what do they mean by that?

00:37:50.240 Because I thought for a lot of these people in the crazy woke left, they hate all that kind of,

00:37:55.440 they hate classical music, classical painting, classical literature, 0.83

00:37:58.400 because they say it's, you know, it's all white culture and they don't want to be a part of it.

00:38:03.820 But when they say it's systematic racism in music, what are they specifically pointing to?

00:38:10.540 They don't know what they mean when they say that.

00:38:12.640 They just see a white dominant profession and they say, well, there must be racism somewhere.

00:38:18.800 What else could it possibly be?

00:38:20.080 So they look at the audition process, they look at the music itself, all of which has mostly emerged from Europe.

00:38:27.300 And they say, you know, we need to include the music of Africa.

00:38:30.800 We need to include more music that originated in the black community like jazz,

00:38:36.280 which jazz and classical music have plenty of overlap.

00:38:39.060 But the thing to understand is they don't understand what they're saying when they say there's systemic racism.

00:38:44.720 They see that the blacks are not as represented.

00:38:48.900 And so they know there's racism somewhere and they have to find it.

00:38:52.000 So they try to find it in every single interaction with their white colleagues and with the repertoire itself. 0.85

00:38:58.500 And they're on a mission.

00:38:59.900 And you have to respect their willingness to destroy their opposition.

00:39:02.760 That is something that has really put right wingers in the arts on their heels because we don't fight back hard enough.

00:39:07.760 So I'm trying to change that culture on my side.

00:39:11.940 How are you trying to change it?

00:39:14.240 With this lawsuit, there's nothing else to do.

00:39:16.420 I could walk away with my tail between my legs, having won this job in Knoxville Fair and Square.

00:39:20.940 Or I could put some feelers out.

00:39:22.480 I have a great foundation in D.C. that's running point on this.

00:39:25.380 You know, I've got Harmeet Dillon on the case and I've got the Department of Justice looking into this.

00:39:30.980 And, you know, we have to starve these woke orchestras of their funding if that's what it takes.

00:39:35.200 They receive federal money all over the place.

00:39:37.000 And if they're going to fund anti-conservative bias, maybe they shouldn't get any taxpayer money, especially in a red state like Tennessee.

00:39:44.340 You know, Nashville and Knoxville are pretty blue pockets.

00:39:47.040 But, you know, at large, this is a deep red state.

00:39:51.760 I don't think.

00:39:52.740 Go ahead.

00:39:52.980 It's one of the ways.

00:39:54.900 You said something previous.

00:39:56.460 So when they went to blind auditions and that's where you just listen to the music, you don't see who's actually performing.

00:40:02.980 You said orchestras essentially went roughly from all male and principal, I guess, all white male to now 50 percent women.

00:40:11.540 Did that mean before there was definitely structural anti, I don't know, feminism or there was a bias against females in these orchestras up to that time until they went to the blind audition back, what, decades ago? 0.99

00:40:25.280 So, yeah, it was kind of an all boys club.

00:40:28.100 And that's what the big objection from union types was.

00:40:31.800 It's like we need to give everybody a fair shot of getting into these orchestras, because back then, if you didn't have money, if you didn't have pedigree, if you didn't have connections, if your family wasn't well connected to classical music already, there was really no way for you to get into an orchestra.

00:40:44.360 So the musician said, let's have a fair system where we compete.

00:40:48.780 And it was widely adopted by all orchestras.

00:40:51.640 This is standard operating procedure.

00:40:53.620 This is the way into the game.

00:40:55.140 And when they put the screen up, women started to compete, you know, in a blind situation with men. 0.52

00:40:59.620 And now orchestras are full of really high level playing women all over the place. 1.00

00:41:04.160 It's just that that same boom hasn't been seen for certain races.

00:41:08.280 So we're figuring out ways to mitigate the pressure.

00:41:12.440 That's my question.

00:41:13.420 They've gone to they still stay with blind. 1.00

00:41:16.380 In fact, but you got the position because that are all the auditions blind.

00:41:20.260 And doesn't that get you the the cream of the crop because people are hearing it with their ears and they're making that decision instead of looking at somebody's physical attributes, whether it's male or female or whether it's, you know, any type of any type of race.

00:41:34.720 Isn't that the way to do it?

00:41:36.260 And if they're doing that now, what is that producing?

00:41:39.580 Absolutely.

00:41:40.120 That is the best way to do it.

00:41:41.180 It's a flawed system.

00:41:42.160 And sometimes you can't tell everything about a player from a blind audition.

00:41:46.800 They're sitting on stage by themselves, for example.

00:41:48.860 That's why after you win the blind audition, you get a one year probationary contract where you're being evaluated for an entire season.

00:41:56.320 Can you show up on time?

00:41:57.780 Can you listen to your colleagues?

00:41:59.040 Do you have a good personality?

00:42:00.260 Do you take direction well from the conductor?

00:42:03.100 Those are the things that you evaluate over the year.

00:42:06.420 So there is where the DEI types are saying there's a lot of systemic racism because, you know, plenty of black players win blind auditions, but then they struggle a little bit in the tenure process because of all the factors they mentioned about how it's so uncomfortable to be a minority on stage.

00:42:22.820 There's not enough representation.

00:42:24.120 So they will chip away at every stage of the process until they get the outcome they want, which is, you know, the same number of blacks in orchestras as in this country, 13%. 0.97

00:42:34.220 So how do people find out more about your case?

00:42:39.000 How do they get up to speed on what's going on?

00:42:40.860 We'd love to have you back on, particularly you're making this fight for the arts in general.

00:42:44.880 Where do people go to get more information about this?

00:42:46.820 Best place is my ex-account, James Zimmerman.

00:42:50.700 It's two N's at the end. 0.91

00:42:52.280 Yep, there it is.

00:42:53.080 I hope you like pictures of bread, too.

00:42:54.660 I put up a picture of bread every morning.

00:42:56.600 It's another way that I express my obsession for beautiful things is in the food that I eat.

00:43:02.120 So you get a free picture of bread every day.

00:43:03.720 You get a little bit of me playing clarinet and me talking about what's going on with my legal fight.

00:43:07.640 That's the best place to follow along.

00:43:11.000 Okay, we'll follow up on you and see how we can help on this.

00:43:13.520 I want everybody, Grace and Mo, if you could push out.

00:43:15.620 James, thank you so much.

00:43:17.180 Look forward to finding out more about your fight.

00:43:20.140 Thanks, Steve.

00:43:20.720 We love high culture here in the war room.

00:43:22.780 Thank you, sir.

00:43:24.140 I've got a cold open from Oscar Blue Ramirez, and I can't say enough.

00:43:28.300 Oscar, as you know, for the last five years, you know him from the daring gap and from all the daring do of really helping his fellow citizens in Mexico about this onslaught that came through Mexico into the American southern border.

00:43:42.120 But his reportage now on Venezuela is second to none.

00:43:45.680 He's had so many cold shots just in the last couple of days.

00:43:48.060 Let's play the cold open.

00:43:48.940 And we'll bring in Oscar.

00:43:49.720 Oscar, there's been a lot of gunfire down there over the last couple of nights.

00:44:06.920 It seems like nighttime gets a little uneasy.

00:44:09.580 President Trump is trying to have a peaceful resolution of this.

00:44:12.540 He doesn't want occupation.

00:44:14.460 He's an America firster.

00:44:16.000 This is because of the hemispheric defense and the security of our own country.

00:44:20.320 He's been kind of forced in to do this.

00:44:22.340 He tried to give these guys every alternative.

00:44:23.940 It's not working out.

00:44:24.520 But you've highlighted the saying, hey, right below the surface, there's a lot of problems and a lot of dangerous problems.

00:44:30.580 What do you got for us?

00:44:32.660 Well, that's the main guy that we talked about, Stephen, that we broke the news right here in the war room that they, you know, the Venezuela government has two more agitators and bad actors.

00:44:42.500 And this is the guy, Diosdado Cabello, that he's in charge of these collective groups, these mercenary groups that they are in charge of terrorizing and basically oppressing the population.

00:44:52.520 These collective groups, they are armed and they are armed by him.

00:44:55.960 He gives them the guns.

00:44:57.140 There's videos already on viral social media where they are being armed right now as we speak to terrorize the population, to oppress the population, and to basically tell them that there's, you know, there's going to be curfews now around 9 or 10 o'clock.

00:45:11.080 They have to be back home.

00:45:12.020 And this has been happening to the Venezuelan people for years now, Steve.

00:45:15.320 And the situation as we speak right now, it is that this is the guy that needs to be extracted immediately.

00:45:21.600 This is the guy that has been torturing political prisoners.

00:45:24.460 This is the guy that is in charge of El Icoyde.

00:45:27.300 That is the prison that possibly Donald Trump is going to be closing right now.

00:45:30.800 And it is the guy that needs to be extracted immediately.

00:45:32.960 And we talked about it.

00:45:34.300 And also in the contrast also with Padrino Lopez, it is another figure that actually it's, you know,

00:45:41.260 he's a complete terrorist also and in charge of also it's a head of the cartel de los solos.

00:45:46.260 Are you recommending that the president and people around him start thinking about extractions of these individuals or the way President Trump's got it now?

00:45:57.940 They've got a couple of things they have to do.

00:45:59.480 Stop the drug trafficking.

00:46:01.160 They've got to remove all the, you know, whether it's CCP or or or Russians and particularly, you know, 1.00

00:46:07.620 Marcos because he's a neocon focused on Hamas and Hezbollah.

00:46:11.780 And they and they've got to make efforts to help kickstart investment into the into the oil and gas business.

00:46:21.340 Is that enough?

00:46:22.400 Or you think that these guys are going to try to disrupt that?

00:46:24.560 And are you recommending to the president that he actually do extraction of these two individuals that you've named?

00:46:31.720 Immediately, you know, immediately.

00:46:33.260 This needs to be done immediately.

00:46:34.660 And Marco Rubio knows that Diosdado Cabello is the number one enabler and the number one that is in charge of the violence and the criminal activity.

00:46:40.880 Just recently, Diosdado Cabello gave out statements saying that if he if this is doesn't stop and if this is not enough to terrorize the citizens,

00:46:48.260 he will ask Iran for guns and he will ask for firearms. 0.86

00:46:52.760 Also, yesterday, there was a confusion among these collective groups shooting at each other because they saw some drones flying in the sky.

00:47:01.740 One of the drones said is the name Mohair.

00:47:03.480 These drones are made by Iran with Iranian intelligence, by engineers that they were trained by Venezuela in Iran. 0.70

00:47:11.300 You know, this is something that is better known as Arpia, these drones.

00:47:16.200 And they were these are the drones that they are being flying around in the part of Caracas.

00:47:20.000 So this guy, it is inevitable.

00:47:21.920 A number one priority to extract, to basically create the change with Delcy Rodriguez.

00:47:27.140 Delcy Rodriguez.

00:47:27.860 Also, be extremely careful.

00:47:30.080 The people of Venezuela, they're completely upset.

00:47:32.660 They're saying this is another person that needs to be extracted.

00:47:35.740 It needs to be removed.

00:47:36.800 And this is the person that it shouldn't be in government, shouldn't be in charge of a Venezuela country.

00:47:42.120 And also, Delcy Rodriguez was just seen as she was sworn in as to be the next president.

00:47:47.040 She immediately went and saluted the ambassadors of China, ambassadors of Russia, and ambassadors of Iran, instead of going to their own political figures and own political people.

00:47:59.220 So this tells you that it's not going to be easy.

00:48:02.060 These two agitators and two bad actors need to be extracted immediately so they can create the peace and they can move forward with the plan that the United States has over Venezuela, Steve.

00:48:10.040 The collectibles.

00:48:15.100 Do I have that?

00:48:15.620 Are collectives or collectibles?

00:48:16.860 These young people with guns that are on motorcycles, almost like motorcycle gangs.

00:48:22.440 Tell us about that.

00:48:23.060 How dangerous is that?

00:48:24.980 Extremely dangerous.

00:48:26.020 This is how Tren de Aragua operates.

00:48:28.100 This is the mora operanda of Tren de Aragua.

00:48:30.020 And it is the right-hand man of the right hand of Cartel de los Soles.

00:48:33.500 Cartel de los Soles completely constructed and reconstructed Tren de Aragua.

00:48:37.000 And that's the way that they operate.

00:48:38.140 That's the way that they go, assault and extortion, kidnap, distribute narcotics inside of Caracas and inside of the whole country of Venezuela.

00:48:45.980 And these people are armed.

00:48:47.360 And they have the authority and the full freedom to oppress the population and to ultimately extortion and kidnaps normal average citizens.

00:48:55.680 These people are extremely dangerous.

00:48:57.880 This is the mora operanda that it was put on on Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria back in the day with these campaigns and drug dealers.

00:49:04.940 They have been operating like this in Colombia.

00:49:07.280 And it is a copy paste of what they're doing right now in Venezuela.

00:49:10.380 These are the people that they're, you know, agitating and not in basically disturbing the peace right now in Venezuela, Steve.

00:49:17.140 But it's extremely dangerous.

00:49:18.200 What is happening right now on the floor in Caracas.

00:49:23.160 In 60 seconds, you're sitting with Marco Rubio, who knows this region pretty well.

00:49:28.420 What's your recommendation to him of what action he should take today, Oscar?

00:49:34.080 Immediately pressure Delcy Rodriguez.

00:49:35.600 She needs to understand that the next one to be extracted, and they don't need to tell her, the next one to be extracted will be Delzado Cabello.

00:49:42.820 Close el helicoide that is the torture and is the torture present right now.

00:49:46.920 And also, you know, just be aware of Padrino Lopez.

00:49:50.280 It is going to be next.

00:49:51.220 As soon as you extract Delzado Cabello, you know, pressure more Delcy Rodriguez. 0.98

00:49:55.300 That if she doesn't bring the peace to the citizens of Venezuela and she doesn't start threatening the peaceful citizens of Venezuela,

00:50:01.520 then Padrino Lopez will be extracted.

00:50:03.200 And this is the only way that they are going to understand that she has been consistently seen on rallies,

00:50:09.100 threatening and also saying that they are still in government and they are still in power.

00:50:13.640 And the socialists and chavismo were going to continue this. 0.99

00:50:16.000 So immediately they need to extract Delzado Cabello as the next strategy to create peace among the citizens of Venezuela

00:50:22.120 and ultimately move forward from that, Steve.

00:50:26.420 Oscar, I want everybody to get access to your social media 24-7.

00:50:30.400 Where do they go?

00:50:30.880 Thanks, Oscar Ramirez, TJ, our, you know, webpage, Oscar Blue Ramirez, Oscar Blue Ramirez News.

00:50:37.660 And also, of course, Steve, thank you so much for the invitation.

00:50:40.320 Real America's Voice News, Steve, they can find me there.

00:50:44.620 The shows, your show and Javier's show, when are they playing?

00:50:47.820 Where can people get them on the Hispanic version of RAV we have? 1.00

00:50:52.180 Where are they going?

00:50:52.840 Yes, absolutely.

00:50:53.900 Absolutely.

00:50:54.400 I forgot about that, Steve.

00:50:55.360 RAV Espanol.

00:50:56.900 You know, Real America's Voice News, we're moving in Spanish.

00:51:00.160 Last night it was a premiere of Raymond Azar.

00:51:02.720 He did phenomenal, you know, on just basically expanding the information of what is happening also in Venezuela.

00:51:08.160 Raymond Azar, he is a producer and also is a presenter.

00:51:11.420 He's from Venezuela.

00:51:12.180 And, you know, he did a phenomenal show.

00:51:15.260 And we're going to be doing our own show also from Monday to Friday, possibly, Steve, on, you know, on the next and coming weeks.

00:51:22.160 We're waiting on that to be premiering on RAVN Espanol.

00:51:25.300 Be sure to be following RAVN Espanol, Real America's Voice News, bringing you the news and the reality and the truth in Spanish, Steve.

00:51:31.480 Thank you, sir.

00:51:34.260 Appreciate you.

00:51:35.380 Great work.

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