On this episode of Real America s Voice, R. Kelly is joined by special guest, Jack Smith, to remember the life and legacy of Jack Smith. Jack Smith is a former Marine who served four years in prison for his part in the murder of his ex-wife and mother-in-law, Jackie Smith.
00:05:45.560And what's crazy is our points, and you know, you went through this, my points were camp points.
00:05:53.180So they manipulated their own system to go and boost me to a low and then boost me to a medium.
00:05:59.600But I didn't spend a lot of time in the medium, Steve, because I was moving around 40 different federal prisons, county jails, and federal holdovers in that time.
00:06:11.160So being here today in D.C. was truly magical.
00:06:34.700Julie, today of all days, you're not a lawyer.
00:06:38.420I mean, you started going to these and sitting in to these courthouses, and you came to us.
00:06:44.700You started writing, and you said the American people are going to be shocked of how rigged this thing is, how dishonest it is, how corrupt it is, how wrong it is.
00:06:53.280Talk to us about that, and particularly you got an opportunity to see Jack Smith's deposition.
00:06:57.880Your thoughts and observations, ma'am.
00:06:59.980And just kind of thinking back, understanding what the Biden DOJ was doing to American citizens, what the FBI was doing.
00:07:14.320You know, getting calls late at night, getting calls over the weekend from people at the D.C. Gulag, some of the people who were charged alongside with Enrique.
00:07:24.460And then trying to figure out how to learn legalese enough to interpret that for regular Americans, including myself, to make sense of what they were doing, holding people on pretrial detention for nonviolent offenses, like Enrique, for example.
00:07:41.960And so it's hard to believe it's been five years, but you can sense, Steve, the frustration and the fury of Democrats, never Trumpers in the media, that this has backfired so spectacularly in their faces.
00:07:59.100Because they really thought that January 6th would result in the death of the MAGA movement, the isolation of Donald Trump, and the imprisonment of Donald Trump.
00:08:08.120And not only did that not happen, people on social media are just mocking January 6th and mocking reporters and Democrats who are lying about it, perpetuating the idea.
00:08:19.420It was this armed insurrection incited by Donald Trump.
00:08:24.760So I know for me as a reporter and someone who knew a lot of these defendants and their families, including Enrique and his mom, I think his mom was the first person to call me on January 20th to let me know that she had heard people were being released from prison.
00:08:43.240So, but of course, I covered the Proud Boys trial as well.
00:08:46.440I saw what the prosecutors did to Enrique and his co-defendants with the help of Judge Tim Kelly.
00:08:53.140I think just one of the most egregious cases that the DOJ brought against them.
00:08:59.320So, but I think what the next piece we have to talk about, Steve, and I know Enrique, and he will agree, I know, is the accountability measures that have to be imposed for the people who did this to American citizens.
00:09:11.220The prosecutors, the DOJ officials, the FBI officials, the investigators, agents, everyone who was involved in this unconstitutional, egregious, unprecedented attack on the constitutional rights of thousands of American citizens have to face consequences.
00:09:28.360And this is the year it has to happen.
00:10:36.360I mean, the MAGA base is very frustrated today.
00:10:38.740In addition to just mocking the January 6th propagandists, there is a lot of frustration justified that this looks like a repeat of Russiagate, where we know what happened.
00:10:52.080We know the crimes that were committed.
00:10:53.700Of course, this is on a much broader scale.
00:10:55.860And they're all going to get away with it.
00:10:57.640I mean, we talked about Jack Smith's testimony last week.
00:11:00.080He lied repeatedly to Congress about those two indictments, about what they meant, about the sort of evidence that he had collected.
00:11:07.140So what's going to happen with him next?
00:11:10.940There is a pending criminal referral against one of Jack Smith's top henchmen, Tom Windham, sitting at DOJ for obstructing Congress for refusing to answer questions under oath during a subpoena deposition.
00:11:24.340So, I mean, things have got to happen very quickly.
00:11:30.280I think the MAGA base was frustrated, but patient in 2025 as the Trump administration, the DOJ, was fielding all of these lawsuits I don't think anyone really saw coming.
00:11:40.300And the judges, of course, being exposed as nothing more than partisan hacks, which is what we saw in the federal courthouse.
00:11:45.840Tim Kelly being one of the worst, unfortunately, appointed by Donald Trump.
00:11:49.340But, you know, where's the impeachment proceedings against Jeb Bosberg?
00:11:55.440We've been talking about that for months.
00:11:57.820You had Republican senators who had their phones spied on by Jack Smith.
00:12:03.440Republican senators like Ted Cruz saying a few months ago, we're going to hold him accountable.
00:12:09.240So if we don't start seeing things happen in the next few weeks, you're going to see a huge uprising in the MAGA base justified because we cannot let what happened to 1,600 J6ers and the ones who weren't charged.
00:12:24.100We should talk about the documents that Rand Paul posted today, 70 pages of FBI documents of a two and a half year investigation into an innocent woman who was snitched on by a former friend.
00:12:36.840And the FBI physically surveilled her house, meaning her family, four times, put her on the TSA terror watch list, which Enrique is familiar with hearing and talking to J6ers.
00:12:47.900And then the summer of 2022, the FBI tells D.C. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, we don't have evidence.
00:13:40.360Before we get there, there's no doubt in your mind, and you believe you can prove that, that Jack Smith purged himself under oath, lied under oath on his deposition that he gave, that he was so big he wanted to go in front of Congress on national TV and give it, ma'am?
00:14:12.600In fact, it was the basis of several weeks of struggle between the FBI and the Department of Justice about authorizing that armed FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago in August of 2022.
00:14:24.980They were fully cooperating from the very beginning, dating back to the spring of May 2021, then voluntarily producing 15 boxes of documents to Navarro, who was threatening to charge them, even though there's no federal enforcement.
00:14:40.640It's not a criminal statute, the Presidential Records Act.
00:14:47.700He lied about the charges for January 6th.
00:14:52.340He said, you know, this is where the evidence led us.
00:14:54.880The evidence led you to three extremely vague conspiracy statutes, including one that's hardly ever used, conspiracy against rights, that actually Jack Smith and his team should face themselves.
00:15:06.540And, of course, two of the four counts in the J6 indictment, obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to obstruct, had been tossed by the Supreme Court in June of 2024 when it came to J6 cases.
00:15:18.700This would have been the same situation for the president.
00:15:21.080So, and then he stumbled around, you know, who he talked to.
00:15:25.800We're not even sure, Steve, that he took the oath of office, which appears to be very problematic as an officer of the court.
00:15:32.400He didn't remember if he took it, who administered it.
00:16:03.760He was in The Hague with the Kosovo war crimes case.
00:16:06.300I want to come back to the Department of Justice in the domestic terror unit.
00:16:11.260What was the domestic terror unit doing?
00:16:13.520Going after Donald Trump, his associates, and his voters.
00:16:17.180So the idea that Jack Smith was just plucked out of The Hague, here he was just toiling away, trying to put away, I think it was Kosovo president for war crimes.
00:16:28.140Then all of a sudden he just came out of nowhere.
00:16:40.960His investigators were caught doctoring evidence.
00:16:44.220They were caught tampering with evidence, possibly missing evidence.
00:16:50.020They said towards the end they couldn't find some of the files that had been taken out of those boxes.
00:16:53.960We know that one of his deputies, Jay Brett, threatened the defense attorney of Donald Trump's co-defendant, Walt Nata, threatened that if he didn't get Walt Nata flip on the president, one of his closest personal aides, that he would make sure that this attorney didn't get a judgeship that he had applied for in D.C.
00:17:12.240These are the most corrupt, dirtiest prosecutors you can find, and that's saying a lot.
00:17:17.320So there's plenty of things that Jack Smith and his team can be criminally referred for.
00:17:24.500Does Congress have the stomach, though, to work with the DOJ and the president and the White House to get that done?
00:17:32.300I think Republicans in Congress have been the biggest wimps, the biggest obstacles, and that's why we're sitting here now with no indictments.
00:17:38.540This has to be a high priority in the White House.
00:17:42.740I know President Trump wants to make it.
00:17:46.820Enrique, a diesel therapy in the Bureau of Prisons is done for the worst hardcore prisoners that just won't get with the program to break people psychologically.
00:17:56.200What it is, they shackle you, they put you on a bus, and then with none of your belongings, and then every night, every day, you're at a different prison, a different processing.
00:18:05.980It's to break people psychologically, right?
00:18:08.140And normally, even after a couple, what they call diesel therapy, you break.
00:18:25.500We also found a whistleblower within the BOP that's willing to come forward and talk about some of those transfers and some of the treatment that came from the BOP, which is an arm of the Department of Justice.
00:18:39.360And then I want to touch on something that Julie said, too, is the MAGA base is angry.
00:19:00.060And one of those people is Jocelyn Ballantyne.
00:19:02.880And Steve, I don't know if you've heard of Jocelyn Ballantyne, but she was one of the heads of the Capital Siege Division at the DOJ.
00:19:09.460And currently, she's not only working for the DOJ, she has one of the highest profile cases.
00:19:15.700She's in charge of one of the highest profile cases in J6 history, which is a pipe bomber case, and along with FBI agent, Special Agent Hanick, which was a special agent in charge of our case.
00:19:27.700So how aggravated we are, and it comes through because, like, the simple things aren't done.
00:19:36.160It's not that we haven't gotten these deep state arrests.
00:19:38.360I really do want the deep state arrests.
00:19:40.320But, like, the simple things aren't even done.
00:19:43.140So we're growing impatient, and I'm seeing the MAGA base, including J6ers and regular everyday people, that are just had enough with the appointees.
00:19:55.320Let me ask you, if you had a chance to have a few minutes with the president today in the Oval Office at the end of our commemoration of this historic fifth year anniversary,
00:20:05.360which will be known as Patriot's Day in years to come, what would you tell the president?
00:20:17.080But in regards to this, which is a super high priority for President Trump, he told Charlie Kirk on that stage in December of 2024 after he won that the reason he came back to do that and to go through everything,
00:20:31.040the bankruptcies, the 92 charges, the 373 years in prison, because they wanted to put him in prison and have him die in prison.
00:20:39.400He did it because he said, I won the 2020 election, and if that's not sorted out, we're not going to have a country.
00:20:45.560If they know that they can have a coup and actually steal the country, then we don't have a republic.
00:20:50.720So what would be the two or three things that you would tell the president of the United States, sir?
00:22:33.780The most one of the most important people in this thing, because I saw that drama play out, is Julie Kelly.
00:22:38.320Julie Kelly spent two hours with the president, given all the details, because Julie Kelly had sacrificed her life to go sit in those courtrooms.
00:22:46.160And President Trump, and I'm not faulting anybody, because it's very tough to know the details.
00:22:51.460And when the president knew the details, that is one of the most central things that had President Trump thinking, I'm going to either commute them all or pardon them all.
00:23:01.780But they're all going to go, right, because of what Julie Kelly did.
00:24:00.040And I got to tell you, you're a hero because in that week, right before, right before, right before inauguration day, you did yeoman's work.
00:24:09.560And the reason it was so powerful, you were a witness to it all.
00:24:13.980You basically gave up your life to go sit in these courtrooms.
00:24:17.100And I remember seeing you, you were so aghast about what's going on.
00:24:19.520And when you would tell me this stuff, I'd go, that can't be true.
00:24:22.260Because some of these guys, including my judge, were all Trump appointees, right?
00:24:27.220And the horror stories of these judges, the horror stories, the story of this and what legally they did to these citizens is one of the greatest crimes in the history of this republic.
00:25:17.100I was told early on after the president won that there were going to be a lot of hearings in 2025 featuring January 6th defendants, their families, their attorneys, et cetera.
00:26:09.580And if it had not been for Julie Kelly and the credibility she has and the president of the United States, who's a very savvy guy, understood.
00:26:17.820As soon as you start talking to her, this woman knows what she's talking about.
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00:34:13.840You've been fired by two symphony, highly regarded symphony orchestras, I believe, in the volunteer state, both in Nashville and Knoxville.
00:34:21.620What in the hell did you do to get fired by two of the top symphony orchestras in the country, sir?
00:34:28.920Well, my time in the first orchestra of the Nashville Symphony lasted a dozen years.
00:34:33.880I resisted a DEI takeover by a temporary black oboist who I thought was my friend.
00:34:41.320And we had a chance to take him out illegally after a botched blind audition that he won, but I stood up on his behalf.
00:34:48.180But after that, he did a Jussie Smollett-type narrative about me, harassed management until they couldn't take it anymore,
00:34:55.400and blackmailed them into firing me so that they could avoid being sued by him for racial discrimination.
00:35:01.560This is kind of a long and complicated story, but I just wouldn't bend the knee.
00:35:04.860They kicked me out right before the pandemic.
00:39:22.480I have a great foundation in D.C. that's running point on this.
00:39:25.380You know, I've got Harmeet Dillon on the case and I've got the Department of Justice looking into this.
00:39:30.980And, you know, we have to starve these woke orchestras of their funding if that's what it takes.
00:39:35.200They receive federal money all over the place.
00:39:37.000And if they're going to fund anti-conservative bias, maybe they shouldn't get any taxpayer money, especially in a red state like Tennessee.
00:39:44.340You know, Nashville and Knoxville are pretty blue pockets.
00:39:47.040But, you know, at large, this is a deep red state.
00:39:56.460So when they went to blind auditions and that's where you just listen to the music, you don't see who's actually performing.
00:40:02.980You said orchestras essentially went roughly from all male and principal, I guess, all white male to now 50 percent women.
00:40:11.540Did that mean before there was definitely structural anti, I don't know, feminism or there was a bias against females in these orchestras up to that time until they went to the blind audition back, what, decades ago?
00:40:25.280So, yeah, it was kind of an all boys club.
00:40:28.100And that's what the big objection from union types was.
00:40:31.800It's like we need to give everybody a fair shot of getting into these orchestras, because back then, if you didn't have money, if you didn't have pedigree, if you didn't have connections, if your family wasn't well connected to classical music already, there was really no way for you to get into an orchestra.
00:40:44.360So the musician said, let's have a fair system where we compete.
00:40:48.780And it was widely adopted by all orchestras.
00:41:13.420They've gone to they still stay with blind.
00:41:16.380In fact, but you got the position because that are all the auditions blind.
00:41:20.260And doesn't that get you the the cream of the crop because people are hearing it with their ears and they're making that decision instead of looking at somebody's physical attributes, whether it's male or female or whether it's, you know, any type of any type of race.
00:42:00.260Do you take direction well from the conductor?
00:42:03.100Those are the things that you evaluate over the year.
00:42:06.420So there is where the DEI types are saying there's a lot of systemic racism because, you know, plenty of black players win blind auditions, but then they struggle a little bit in the tenure process because of all the factors they mentioned about how it's so uncomfortable to be a minority on stage.
00:42:24.120So they will chip away at every stage of the process until they get the outcome they want, which is, you know, the same number of blacks in orchestras as in this country, 13%.
00:42:34.220So how do people find out more about your case?
00:42:39.000How do they get up to speed on what's going on?
00:42:40.860We'd love to have you back on, particularly you're making this fight for the arts in general.
00:42:44.880Where do people go to get more information about this?
00:42:46.820Best place is my ex-account, James Zimmerman.
00:43:24.140I've got a cold open from Oscar Blue Ramirez, and I can't say enough.
00:43:28.300Oscar, as you know, for the last five years, you know him from the daring gap and from all the daring do of really helping his fellow citizens in Mexico about this onslaught that came through Mexico into the American southern border.
00:43:42.120But his reportage now on Venezuela is second to none.
00:43:45.680He's had so many cold shots just in the last couple of days.
00:44:32.660Well, that's the main guy that we talked about, Stephen, that we broke the news right here in the war room that they, you know, the Venezuela government has two more agitators and bad actors.
00:44:42.500And this is the guy, Diosdado Cabello, that he's in charge of these collective groups, these mercenary groups that they are in charge of terrorizing and basically oppressing the population.
00:44:52.520These collective groups, they are armed and they are armed by him.
00:44:57.140There's videos already on viral social media where they are being armed right now as we speak to terrorize the population, to oppress the population, and to basically tell them that there's, you know, there's going to be curfews now around 9 or 10 o'clock.
00:45:34.300And also in the contrast also with Padrino Lopez, it is another figure that actually it's, you know,
00:45:41.260he's a complete terrorist also and in charge of also it's a head of the cartel de los solos.
00:45:46.260Are you recommending that the president and people around him start thinking about extractions of these individuals or the way President Trump's got it now?
00:45:57.940They've got a couple of things they have to do.
00:46:34.660And Marco Rubio knows that Diosdado Cabello is the number one enabler and the number one that is in charge of the violence and the criminal activity.
00:46:40.880Just recently, Diosdado Cabello gave out statements saying that if he if this is doesn't stop and if this is not enough to terrorize the citizens,
00:46:48.260he will ask Iran for guns and he will ask for firearms.
00:46:52.760Also, yesterday, there was a confusion among these collective groups shooting at each other because they saw some drones flying in the sky.
00:47:01.740One of the drones said is the name Mohair.
00:47:03.480These drones are made by Iran with Iranian intelligence, by engineers that they were trained by Venezuela in Iran.
00:47:11.300You know, this is something that is better known as Arpia, these drones.
00:47:16.200And they were these are the drones that they are being flying around in the part of Caracas.
00:47:36.800And this is the person that it shouldn't be in government, shouldn't be in charge of a Venezuela country.
00:47:42.120And also, Delcy Rodriguez was just seen as she was sworn in as to be the next president.
00:47:47.040She immediately went and saluted the ambassadors of China, ambassadors of Russia, and ambassadors of Iran, instead of going to their own political figures and own political people.
00:47:59.220So this tells you that it's not going to be easy.
00:48:02.060These two agitators and two bad actors need to be extracted immediately so they can create the peace and they can move forward with the plan that the United States has over Venezuela, Steve.
00:48:38.140That's the way that they go, assault and extortion, kidnap, distribute narcotics inside of Caracas and inside of the whole country of Venezuela.
00:48:47.360And they have the authority and the full freedom to oppress the population and to ultimately extortion and kidnaps normal average citizens.
00:49:35.600She needs to understand that the next one to be extracted, and they don't need to tell her, the next one to be extracted will be Delzado Cabello.
00:49:42.820Close el helicoide that is the torture and is the torture present right now.
00:49:46.920And also, you know, just be aware of Padrino Lopez.
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