Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 921： Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss： “Pope Leo” Continues Francis’s Radical Pro-INVASION Agenda

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00:00:58.000 Today is Wednesday, 7th of January.

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00:01:08.000 Anno Domini, 2026.

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00:01:15.000 And joined with our regular Wednesday contributors, Frank Walker, Jenny Holland.

00:01:21.000 And guys, I hope you had a nice Christmas and relaxing start to the new year.

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00:01:48.000 I did get a cold.

00:01:49.000 Um, and I was sort of down for, I think everyone here in Italy, literally everybody, um, seemed

00:01:57.000 to come down with something over the new year's, um, festivities.

00:02:03.000 Okay.

00:02:04.000 Um, lots to get on with the show today.

00:02:08.000 Uh, I think the first thing I'd like to discuss is with you, Frank Walker.

00:02:13.000 Um, this somewhat, I think illustrates the point that Canon 212, War Room, Chris Jackson, that

00:02:25.000 we were making right from the start in open contradiction to our brothers over at Trad Inc.

00:02:35.000 that Pope Leo was going to be some kind of heaven sent second rat singer. 0.91

00:02:42.000 Uh, we've got the extraordinary consistory starting today.

00:02:47.000 It's going on for today and tomorrow.

00:02:49.000 I think they had a session earlier on in this morning and then having two, three hour sessions

00:02:55.000 or something like that.

00:02:56.000 Um, to my Frank, why don't you just explain what Canon 212 is looking for, uh, to come out

00:03:03.000 of this consistory.

00:03:04.000 But before that, for our non-Catholic audience, explain what a consistory is.

00:03:11.000 What is a consistory?

00:03:12.000 What is the Sacred College of Cardinals?

00:03:16.000 I think that the, the College of Cardinals is not, doesn't go all the way back to the

00:03:21.000 beginning of the church.

00:03:22.000 It goes back more like a thousand years.

00:03:24.000 And this is a meeting for them to get together.

00:03:26.000 They're, they're supposed to be advisors of the Pope.

00:03:29.000 There didn't used to be this many of them.

00:03:31.000 There's a lot of them now.

00:03:33.000 In fact, there's more than I think there is even required or permitted by canon law from

00:03:38.000 what I understand.

00:03:39.000 And so a consistory is just a meeting of the Cardinals with the Pope.

00:03:43.000 And, um, what they have to, what they are having today is an extraordinary consistory,

00:03:47.000 which is something they've convened for some special, important and grave reason.

00:03:52.000 And they have a consistory whenever they vote on the new Pope, but this is, this is supposed

00:03:57.000 to have some reason.

00:03:58.000 But the reason they can vote and vote that Leo can vote this is because he wanted to have

00:04:03.000 more dialogue.

00:04:04.000 He had, the people said they didn't get enough, um, ability to interact with Francis.

00:04:09.000 And they were hoping that the Leo, Leo would be more open to meeting with them.

00:04:13.000 And he said, well, I'm all about listening.

00:04:15.000 And so that's what I'll do.

00:04:17.000 And that's what they were sort of expecting.

00:04:18.000 And that's what's happening today.

00:04:20.000 So just give a bit of background on that.

00:04:23.000 What was meant when people said that the late, very unlamented Francis didn't want to

00:04:31.000 sit down and talk to his Cardinals?

00:04:34.000 What was meant by that?

00:04:35.000 Well, what Francis, um, you know, you know, Francis church and Leo's church are the same

00:04:42.000 kind of church.

00:04:43.000 They're not, they're not really Catholic.

00:04:45.000 They're just sort of this, this new thing.

00:04:47.000 And, uh, they've always said that they're all about listening.

00:04:49.000 But whenever I hear that, whenever I hear that, I always think about how it's not really

00:04:53.000 about listening.

00:04:54.000 And so, uh, the first consistory was in, in 2013, I think.

00:04:59.000 And, um, uh, Francis, uh, had a speaker, Cardinal Casper, who came and he told everybody that

00:05:06.000 people who are in a state of mortal sin, divorced and remarried should be permitted to go to 1.00

00:05:10.000 communion.

00:05:11.000 And it created quite a stir.

00:05:13.000 And after that, Francis sort of gave up on the whole idea of meeting with, uh, Cardinals

00:05:19.000 again, he created this organization, the gang of nine, we call it, uh, to re reinvent

00:05:24.000 the Curia and they would meet and Francis would meet with them and he would meet selectively

00:05:28.000 with Cardinals, but he, he would never have a consistory until 2022.

00:05:32.000 He had one.

00:05:33.000 And it was, um, it was basically, there wasn't much listening to it.

00:05:37.000 The document they were discussing had already been written.

00:05:40.000 So they didn't really have any input.

00:05:42.000 Francis was never really about input from the Cardinals.

00:05:45.000 He was about telling the Cardinals what to do.

00:05:47.000 He was about control and they had resented that.

00:05:50.000 And they hope that Leo was going to be different.

00:05:52.000 So he, he convoked his consistory and it was supposed to be different.

00:05:56.000 But like you say, I agree with you.

00:05:58.000 It's sort of a, a trad ink hope that was not realized.

00:06:02.000 It was, it was a trad ink hoax.

00:06:05.000 Um, so one of the criticisms people made about Francis was that whilst he talked about

00:06:13.000 collegiality, he actually governed, um, like, well, he is, let's, let's be honest in terms

00:06:20.000 of the Catholic church's governance structure.

00:06:22.000 The Pope is, any Pope is an absolute monarch, whether they want to be more collaborative

00:06:27.000 or not is up to their own personal leadership charism.

00:06:31.000 But all of the, all of the, the, the functions and responsibilities and powers for the governing

00:06:37.000 of the, the governance of the universal church are basically in the person of the Pope.

00:06:43.000 And of course the Pope delegates because it's a worldwide church.

00:06:46.000 Um, but he is really answerable only to Christ on judgment day.

00:06:52.000 Um, so the other thing I wanted to quickly ask you, Frank Walker, is that we're staying

00:06:58.000 on the theme of Pope Francis.

00:07:02.000 One of the criticisms was that not only was he not remotely interested in what his cardinals

00:07:08.000 had to say, he actually didn't want them physically getting together and talking amongst themselves

00:07:14.000 because he feared the, the possibility that they were going to lobby against him, that

00:07:20.000 they were going to resist somewhat, some of his reforms.

00:07:23.000 With regards to Leo, even if he's under no obligation whatsoever to listen to his cardinals 1.00

00:07:29.000 and they'll put, they'll put out a report and he'll accept the report, no doubt.

00:07:33.000 Um, and it will be somewhat of a cosmetic exercise, at least on the point that he's not terrified, uh, of

00:07:41.000 the idea that his cardinals are going to get together and talk over the water cooler.

00:07:48.000 Yeah.

00:07:49.000 Well, I think that this, well, this effort is sort of superficial, you know, cardinals are, 1.00

00:07:53.000 our good leader has access to his top people.

00:07:57.000 Like you see today in the Trump administration, there's some good people there and they, you rely

00:08:01.000 on the good people and they represent the entire planet in terms of the, in the church's

00:08:05.000 case.

00:08:06.000 So he, he really does need to interact with them.

00:08:08.000 And all of the cardinals were hoping for was to be able to get to know each other, like

00:08:12.000 you say, and they didn't get to know each other or have access to Leo.

00:08:16.000 They really wanted better access to him.

00:08:18.000 And what they, they didn't know until just now, when you look at the agenda here, that it's

00:08:23.000 just a bunch of Sonata working groups.

00:08:25.000 You know, I can't in 212, I put up a picture of this, this very sad working group that you

00:08:30.000 would see in, in any company or we have to get in a group and that they have discussion

00:08:34.000 points and then they report back and they're, they're, they're not going to ever really interact

00:08:39.000 so much with Leo.

00:08:40.000 Leo is going to give a speech.

00:08:41.000 Then they're going to talk to each other and then they have only 45 minutes before

00:08:48.000 lunch to actually talk to the group and have an interaction between the group.

00:08:53.000 That's not in these very closely governed small groups.

00:08:56.000 And then they have another moment.

00:08:58.000 This is just a, it's start, it's starting today.

00:09:00.000 I'll be over tomorrow evening.

00:09:01.000 Another moment right before Leo's closing speech.

00:09:04.000 Now, nobody's going to want to over talk it right when it's almost time for Leo and nobody's

00:09:08.000 going to want to, people are going to disappear for lunch.

00:09:10.000 It's just, they're very disappointed, I think, because what they're ending up getting is

00:09:14.000 something that we don't even know.

00:09:15.000 I mean, what are they discussing?

00:09:17.000 The, the issues that are supposed to be discussed at this meeting are synods and synodality and

00:09:23.000 oh, the liturgy too, but how are they going to talk about the liturgy?

00:09:26.000 Yeah.

00:09:27.000 I don't know if the liturgy is going to have time to be discussed.

00:09:30.000 We really don't know what they're going to discuss.

00:09:32.000 They had some pre-reading.

00:09:33.000 They had, they had like, for instance, his opening manifesto, which is sort of his liberation

00:09:39.000 theology church.

00:09:40.000 And they have, and they're going to, and they have the new, the new constitution of the

00:09:46.000 church that was released by the gang of nine, now the gang of six, that rewrote the constitution

00:09:51.000 of the church.

00:09:52.000 These things are already produced.

00:09:53.000 They're just supposed to study them.

00:09:55.000 Um, and, and, and we just found out today that Cardinal Timothy Radcliffe, who is a, a gay 0.99

00:10:02.000 activist, like a father James Martin, um, type of guy going back a long ways or 80 or so

00:10:08.000 now is going to be giving the meditation.

00:10:10.000 So it's much like when Lee, when Francis did this and Cardinal Casper gave his evil speech,

00:10:15.000 Radcliffe is going to give a speech.

00:10:18.000 They're going to work in a small group.

00:10:19.000 Radcliffe just said yesterday, he wants lady deacons. 0.98

00:10:22.000 He wants women's ordination. 0.99

00:10:24.000 And, uh, maybe that's what they'll be discussing.

00:10:27.000 I think these synods are just a way of camouflaging their movement towards some nefarious goal that

00:10:33.000 they can't admit.

00:10:34.000 So that's what they'll be working on, but we don't know what that's going to be right

00:10:37.000 now.

00:10:38.000 Just for reference, um, to our largely American audience, Cardinal Radcliffe was, um, was leader

00:10:45.000 as a world, um, what's the title?

00:10:48.000 They're the head of the Dominican order, the Franciscan, the Dominican, uh, mendicant order. 0.94

00:10:54.000 Um, I forget his precise title as the head of that, but this was, this was the fan, the

00:10:59.000 order founded 800 years ago by St. Dominic really to protect the orthodoxy in doctrine and dogma.

00:11:06.000 Um, it was founded, I think, against the Algebinian, um, heresy in the south of France.

00:11:12.000 And to see what that has come, France has appointed this guy as a Cardinal, um, over, I think it

00:11:18.000 was over the voting age of the conclave voting age of 80.

00:11:22.000 So it was a symbolic maneuver.

00:11:24.000 Um, and as you say, he's, um, he's a heterodox figure.

00:11:28.000 Just quickly on this point, Frank, just give me, um, just give me 60 seconds, right?

00:11:35.000 Firstly, I just want to recap what you said, uh, as a difference in leadership style between

00:11:40.000 Pope Leo and Pope Francis.

00:11:43.000 Francis was absolutely terrified of resistance in the church because he was doing it.

00:11:48.000 A lot of his more scandalous reforms he was claiming was, was being requested by the bishops,

00:11:54.000 by the cardinals, by the laity.

00:11:56.000 We've since, uh, found out thanks to some sterling work by Diane Montagna that that was all

00:12:02.000 literally lies.

00:12:03.000 It was literally made up, uh, and misrepresented questionnaires.

00:12:07.000 Um, but Francis was absolutely terrified of his, even though he, he did govern as an absolute

00:12:14.000 monarch and absolute dictator, as is his right as Pope, um, in terms of governance.

00:12:21.000 He, uh, he was terrified that his cardinals would get together.

00:12:25.000 Um, so I think it's fair to synthesize what you're, you're saying, Frank Walker, Leo's

00:12:31.000 leadership style is appearing to be different in terms of the, the, the superficial cosmetic

00:12:37.000 like, okay, I don't have anything to fear from these cardinals.

00:12:41.000 After all, they elected him on, on the fourth ballot in record time.

00:12:45.000 So let them come together for, for, for two days.

00:12:48.000 They're going to be in Rome anyway for, for the epiphany.

00:12:51.000 A lot of them, let them come together, let them talk over the water cooler.

00:12:55.000 Um, let them produce whatever statements they want to say, but it's all very much.

00:13:00.000 Um, still Leo is in charge.

00:13:02.000 What I quickly want to ask you, just give me 60 seconds on this, Frank.

00:13:06.000 Um, what conclusions do you draw?

00:13:10.000 I know it's not unusual that these things normally do take place behind closed doors,

00:13:15.000 but in the light of talking about synodality and the greater that the supposed transparency

00:13:22.000 and the, the co running of the church, uh, with the laity that, that Francis endlessly

00:13:29.000 intimated, this consistently taking place behind closed doors.

00:13:33.000 As you said, we have no idea what they're saying.

00:13:35.000 Do you have like any observations on that point before we go to Jenny?

00:13:39.000 Well, they, they, um, the, I think that Leo may be slightly in manner is different.

00:13:47.000 You know, so now they're reporting that Leo is a moderate, you know, but, but six months

00:13:51.000 ago they were reporting him as a trad.

00:13:52.000 And, and I think that Leo is, he's a sort of very superficially different, but what he's

00:13:59.000 doing here is exactly the same thing that, that, uh, Francis would do.

00:14:02.000 He's structuring them into what he wants.

00:14:06.000 He's telling them what he wants.

00:14:08.000 He's not, he's treating them really.

00:14:09.000 He's not treating them like Catholics, Catholic men treat each other with respect.

00:14:13.000 They share the same doctrine.

00:14:15.000 No, he, your doctrine, it doesn't have a place here.

00:14:18.000 What you're supposed to do is exactly what you're told you're submit your report and,

00:14:23.000 uh, and then we'll consider it.

00:14:25.000 You know, a Leo is there's difference from Francis is only superficial, but his goals are

00:14:30.000 exactly the same and his methods are exactly the same.

00:14:33.000 And so I think that's the lesson to be drawn here from this.

00:14:36.000 The fact that it's so, like you said, they're going to be there anyway.

00:14:39.000 He's just tossing this out to them.

00:14:41.000 It's interesting that Bishop Barron, I noticed he's, he, he, he actually scolded Leo just the

00:14:46.000 other day.

00:14:47.000 I know we, you know, Bishop Barron, you, you wouldn't expect him to actually sort of condemn

00:14:51.000 Leo and condemn synodality, but I know he's associated with the Trump, with the white house

00:14:56.000 these days, but that to me, it seems to be a bit of a shift, but I, I don't understand

00:15:00.000 why.

00:15:01.000 I know why he did it now because this, this is a pushing synodality.

00:15:04.000 That's what this is all about.

00:15:05.000 Like Steven Cox said, the, uh, the blogger is sanitizing synodality by bringing the Cardinals

00:15:11.000 in and making it look more legitimate.

00:15:13.000 We'll certainly keep our BDIs fixed on this one, Frank Walker.

00:15:18.000 And I'm sure you will as well at Canon 212.

00:15:22.000 We're going to go in a moment to Jenny to have an astonishing story from Scotland, from

00:15:27.000 Edinburgh, capital of Scotland to do with a, an act of desecration on, I think it was Christmas

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00:17:03.000 Okay, Jenny, when I saw this story, I was absolutely horrified.

00:17:08.000 And what interested me more than anything was the statement that the Scottish police

00:17:14.000 came out and put out immediately in real time, which seems to be somewhat contradicted

00:17:21.000 by the actual sort of facts on the ground coming out of this church of St. Patrick's in Edinburgh.

00:17:27.000 Why don't you tell us what exactly happened and what the police said

00:17:31.000 and what actually sort of what the priest who was first on the scene reported?

00:17:38.000 Yeah, so this happened on Christmas Eve.

00:17:41.000 According to one account in, I think it was the Times, the priests were having a meal together

00:17:47.000 and the church had been left open for people to come in and pray on Christmas Eve.

00:17:52.000 And there was a disturbance and they found a man and a woman essentially wrecking the place.

00:17:59.000 And they had taken the baby Jesus out of the crib, I believe, ripped it apart, ripped its arm off and ripped its head off.

00:18:09.000 And the police stated in this sort of roundabout way, as did the statement from the church, that blood was spilled.

00:18:19.000 So they never actually said what the blood was caused by, where it came from.

00:18:25.000 But there was also desecration of relics in the chapel and in the sanctuary.

00:18:34.000 The police were quick to point out that they called it a mental health incident and not a sectarian incident.

00:18:45.000 The perpetrators of this were a man and a woman, one of whom was described as English.

00:18:52.000 So this is all code for this wasn't some sort of other religion attacking this church.

00:19:00.000 It was two people having a mental health crisis, quote unquote.

00:19:04.000 I find that choice of words to be very interesting.

00:19:07.000 And I find the whole story very unsettling and somewhat sinister.

00:19:12.000 What do you think, Ben?

00:19:14.000 Well, let's look at what Father Gerard Hatton said.

00:19:18.000 He's one of the church's three piece. 0.95

00:19:20.000 It's important to say that in Scotland, in Edinburgh, this is one of the it's one of the cultural homes of Catholicism in Scotland.

00:19:28.000 Very important church.

00:19:29.000 So Father Hatton comes down and says that the guy was very aggressive and rude and really angry at priests and the church.

00:19:42.000 Now, Jenny, that seems to me to be a first time, a first person witness account describing these events is pretty intentional to me.

00:19:53.000 I repeat that he was really angry at priests and the church.

00:19:57.000 And the police statement that they put out said it was not believed to be a hate crime targeted at Catholics.

00:20:06.000 And the incident is understood to have been mental health related.

00:20:10.000 Well, you know, I and as you point out, the the the desecration of the relics was it was in the Lady Chapel.

00:20:19.000 So we see here desecration of the baby Jesus and then violence expressed towards the Virgin Mary.

00:20:26.000 Two things that I think serious Catholics will will start collecting dots and wonder if there is something beyond being mentally unhinged here. 0.99

00:20:36.000 These are the representatives, representations of Christ and of the Virgin Mary immediately come under contact under attack.

00:20:46.000 But by the diabolic always and everywhere.

00:20:49.000 Yeah.

00:20:51.000 One other thing.

00:20:52.000 The guy says, Jenny, let me just let me bring this one to you.

00:20:57.000 And they also said that threats were made against them.

00:21:01.000 And someone said, you're finished here.

00:21:05.000 So this seems to be pretty.

00:21:07.000 On Easter.

00:21:08.000 As I say, pretty.

00:21:09.000 That's right.

00:21:10.000 Pretty intentional.

00:21:11.000 That's right.

00:21:12.000 It was on the Easter vigil.

00:21:13.000 I don't understand how that the statement that the church puts out thanking people for their prayers and concern with regard to the Christmas Eve desecration.

00:21:24.000 I don't understand why the statement says that it's not sectarian in nature and that it requires spiritual medicine.

00:21:34.000 Yes.

00:21:35.000 That seems to be a slight contradiction to me.

00:21:37.000 Yeah.

00:21:38.000 And when I interrupted you, I was going to say about the threats made against them on Easter.

00:21:45.000 Of course, it doesn't say by whom.

00:21:48.000 No, I completely agree with you.

00:21:51.000 There's something very sinister about this in that the specifics of the attack and the kind of coded language being used is raises a lot of suspicions as to what possibly this could be.

00:22:09.000 If it's not sectarian, OK, notice that that's a carefully chosen word.

00:22:13.000 So it's not they're not saying it was a Protestant attack or a Muslim attack.

00:22:19.000 But then it was obviously an attack and it was obviously religiously motivated.

00:22:24.000 Otherwise, why the baby Jesus and why the Virgin Mary's chapel?

00:22:30.000 Now, I mean, who knows?

00:22:32.000 I mean, this is a this is an old like you say, it's an old and beautiful church in the most beautiful part of Edinburgh, which is one of the most beautiful cities in Europe with a tremendous amount of history.

00:22:43.000 And the wider context of this, and I bring you tales from the insane secular world now, is that Scotland is among all of the woke small nations of the West, the probably the wokest and the craziest. 0.96

00:22:59.000 It has been in the grips of some of the most insane, woke totalitarian, idiotic government policy of anywhere else in the world. 0.77

00:23:12.000 Just as a very brief example from the sacred to the profane, someone I know who used to live there drew my attention to a story that appeared this weekend in Scottish local media of a man who invited all and sundry to come to a park in Glasgow. 0.99

00:23:29.000 As he said, as he said, to give him a big boot in the balls, as in kick him in the testicles to celebrate his impending castration, which they call bottom surgery. 0.98

00:23:40.000 So a trans identified man and the media is covering this like it's fun, how quirky. 0.99

00:23:47.000 This is the same country that appointed a period dignity officer in 2022, a government funded position, which they then gave to a man. 0.82

00:23:58.000 So, I mean, Scotland, I mean, and these are the most sort of silly examples. 0.87

00:24:03.020 There's a lot of other far more serious examples of the degradation of Scotland, its education, its working class communities, and the elevation of these insane woke commissars. 1.00

00:24:15.600 So that I think, I mean, one of the reasons, one of the things that drew me towards Catholicism specifically was watching how insane the world was becoming under the influence of woke.

00:24:29.000 And even as a secular atheist, a person who was secular my entire life, it was very apparent to me that the worst excesses of woke appeared to me the same as demonic forces are described in the olden times.

00:24:45.300 That is what drew me to Catholicism.

00:24:47.100 So when I look at the story of the church in Edinburgh, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

00:24:51.900 I think, I hope that the priests in charge of that church are attending to this problem that they seem to have, as in people coming in and attacking them and threatening them on the most holy days of the Christian year.

00:25:07.060 And really, I'd ask the audience in general to pray for Scotland, because it's in a very dark place.

00:25:16.360 Let me just, we've got 60 seconds before we go to the book.

00:25:19.560 I just want to ask Frank Walker, who attends to these things with great, with great interest.

00:25:27.380 Just give me, very quickly, if you can, when you hear Jenny talking now, and you hear these stories of violence and hatred and outrage, not only directed against the baby Jesus, but also against the Virgin Mary.

00:25:42.160 What do you, and the newspaper accounts, by the way, actually described, I think it was either the guy or the woman taking the statue of the Christchart and smashing it repeatedly on the ground.

00:25:52.760 What is the first thing that comes to your mind, Frank Walker?

00:25:57.440 Both Jenny and I have suggested the diabolic here.

00:26:00.600 Tell me what you think.

00:26:02.460 Yes, that's what I thought too.

00:26:03.780 And there's also a reference in the story to blood, some kind of blood.

00:26:09.260 Satanic is means you are attacking the Catholic Church.

00:26:12.880 You're attacking the things of Christ.

00:26:14.680 That's part of satanic ritual.

00:26:16.900 And that's what it sounds like to me.

00:26:18.760 And in woke, you do find Satanism.

00:26:21.880 There's a story just last week about a beautiful monastery with an amazing tabernacle.

00:26:27.960 And the only thing that happened was they stole the Blessed Sacrament from the tabernacle.

00:26:32.400 They didn't break anything.

00:26:33.700 Well, why do they want the Blessed Sacrament?

00:26:35.100 This is a common thing.

00:26:36.720 Satanists do attack priests.

00:26:38.280 They do hate priests, and they do hate churches.

00:26:40.240 And they do exist, not just in Edinburgh, not just among the woke movement, but among the halls of power in Hollywood.

00:26:48.940 Behind the scenes is the religion of the anti-church.

00:26:52.800 And their whole point is to attack the religion of God. 0.83

00:26:57.360 And that's what I thought right away.

00:26:58.740 I agree with you.

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00:31:40.840 Well, since before we took our Christmas break, there have been some developments in terms of ecclesiastical appointments, both to New York, which I think we might have mentioned just in December,

00:31:57.720 but also to the primatial sea, the Catholic churches, the Catholic hierarchies, primatial sea in England and Wales, which is Westminster.

00:32:09.520 And our second Ratzinger, the great hope to restore conservatism and traditionism to the Catholic Church, Pope Leo has appointed two guys who are very much.

00:32:30.300 I wouldn't even say in his image.

00:32:31.980 They're in Francis's image.

00:32:33.920 Frank Walker, let's start off with the new Archbishop of Westminster first, a guy called Richard Moth,

00:32:42.580 who likened Mary, Jesus and Joseph to migrants arriving in Britain.

00:32:52.360 Tell us more about this character.

00:32:55.300 Well, he he was the head of the military diocese for a while.

00:32:59.340 He he has not unlike the new Bishop of New York.

00:33:04.760 He's a little bit more comfortable on his feet.

00:33:07.660 And he was up there.

00:33:09.300 I saw a little bit of his talk next to the outgoing Archbishop Nichols, Cardinal Nichols.

00:33:15.300 And there's they were just sitting together.

00:33:17.940 And, yeah, he's all about social justice.

00:33:21.120 He's all about migrants, which is the same thing that they have in New York.

00:33:25.060 The migrants in the UK, when you talk about migrants from the church, your job is to scold all the peoples down and to stop them resisting the full on Islamization of the UK. 1.00

00:33:37.840 And in the United States, they're all about migrants and the new guy is about migrants.

00:33:42.720 But in that case, it's all about Trump and the deportations.

00:33:46.320 Two different the same issue, but two different angles.

00:33:48.820 And here he is giving his speech.

00:33:51.740 And he's really all about that synodality, just like they're going on with and right now in Rome with the consistory.

00:33:58.820 He's all about listening.

00:34:00.540 He's all about he tells the stories about how he listened over and over, how he went four times back in his old diocese to listen to the people.

00:34:08.580 It doesn't say whether he paid any attention to what he heard.

00:34:12.060 But in the UK, they're much more about silencing your opinion, your Catholic opinion.

00:34:19.820 And, you know, and but both cases in New York and in the UK, it's all about politics.

00:34:26.000 Bishop Moth, who's now been given the biggest diocese, he's there to counteract Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage and their political movement where they're actually bringing in, unlike in the United States, they're bringing in Christianity in a new way.

00:34:42.440 And they're saying they're all about Christmas.

00:34:45.200 This Bishop Moth says, well, you can't be about Christmas and against migrants because Jesus and the Holy Family were migrants.

00:34:53.060 And, you know, this tactic that they always use to make whatever their political cause into God, I find it offensive.

00:35:01.600 And, you know, I don't think that he's going to be I don't think he's going to be that effective against these guys.

00:35:06.080 He's very, I think, find him a little bit snooty.

00:35:08.460 He's very snooty.

00:35:09.460 He's very, you know, patronizing.

00:35:13.220 And I think that's probably a thing that happens there a lot.

00:35:16.460 And I don't think that the Tommy Robinson was a hero to the UK and Nigel Farage just talks directly to people.

00:35:22.240 I don't think I don't think the competition is going to be very strong as in New York, where the guy has absolutely no charisma, unlike Cardinal Dolan.

00:35:29.960 Yeah.

00:35:30.460 So I think just like with with Leo himself, you know, you have to kind of work around.

00:35:35.380 Frank Walker, it's a cold day in hell today.

00:35:39.240 I never thought I was ever going to hear you say a kind word, kind word about Cardinal Dolan.

00:35:44.200 But there it is.

00:35:44.780 We've heard it on the War Room today on 7th of January.

00:35:49.580 There it is, folks.

00:35:50.920 We'll start.

00:35:51.420 We'll timestamp that and get that out on social media.

00:35:53.940 So Tommy Robinson led a carol concert in London in which he claimed that the scope was to put Christ back into Christmas.

00:36:04.900 That didn't go down well, either with the Anglicans or the Catholics.

00:36:09.980 The hierarchies, by the way, I'm not talking about the actual faithful who went down very well with the faithful.

00:36:15.700 Well, let's just go come back, however, to the Archbishop-elect Moth, who spoke on the importance, the priority of welcoming the stranger and refer to the enriching contribution that people born in countries across the world bring to the UK.

00:36:38.100 Well, you know, anyone who checks out my Getter profile will see I'm chock-blockful with illustrations of the cultural enrichment that's taking place right across Continental.

00:36:51.200 Tell me something, because the late, unlamented Pope Francis went on and on and on and on and on and on and on about priests, parish priests especially, needing to have the smell of the sheep about them.

00:37:09.260 I'm suggesting that in his fantasy, in his fantasy, in the idea of the church that he hated so much, you had these stern, rigid, doctrinaire parish priests leaning over the lecterns, the pulpits, every Sunday, sort of reading chapter and verse on moral theology to parishioners, to which I can only open brackets.

00:37:33.800 I can only add, if only, let me know where these guys are, because I'm going to beeline there.

00:37:39.260 And his counter to that, Frank Walker, was that he wanted parish priests to be more pastoral and that they had to have the smell of the sheep.

00:37:49.640 He wanted pastors, shepherds who had the smell of the sheep.

00:37:53.060 Tell me, because I talk to Catholics back in my beloved homeland quite a bit, and they're all universally very concerned about how the invasion, the third world invasion,

00:38:07.460 is actually ruining the social fabric right across the UK.

00:38:12.180 Where is the smell of the sheep in these two episcopal appointments?

00:38:18.660 It's in what they call liberation theology.

00:38:22.320 It's this theology that makes the peoples, the people as this idol that is God himself.

00:38:28.740 In fact, that's why this new Archbishop of Westminster is so warm and welcoming.

00:38:37.060 His personality is so friendly.

00:38:39.700 I find it somewhat repulsive, but I call it, I call it on Canterbury 12, the joy face.

00:38:44.780 He has the joy face really well. 0.61

00:38:46.500 Well, just recently, Bishop Hicks, who is not only did his old chancellor get gay married, but his vicar general was at the wedding,

00:38:57.540 and Pope Leo was asked about this new chancellor, and he said, no comment.

00:39:02.060 Well, there's a new talk with him out there after his flopped talk that he gave with Cardinal Dolan when he was introduced.

00:39:08.160 And he talks about how when he was in Latin America, everybody in the old church has to work in Latin America,

00:39:13.900 and they have to all be funneled through Chicago and Cardinal Cupich somehow.

00:39:18.140 But when this Archbishop Hicks was in El Salvador, it's the peoples that changed him. 1.00

00:39:26.780 The peoples transformed him by being among them.

00:39:29.960 They were poor, but they were united to Christ.

00:39:32.660 They were just like superhuman peoples.

00:39:35.140 That's what the smell of the sheep is.

00:39:36.580 It's not the actual people.

00:39:38.420 It's not the people that work hard.

00:39:41.280 It's not the people that are trying to help each other and love each other.

00:39:44.420 And it's not the people who are being abused by their own Nazi rulers like in the UK that Tommy Robinson is fighting for.

00:39:51.940 It's not them.

00:39:53.120 It's this peoples that enables the communism where you have totalitarians rule over all the peoples.

00:40:01.060 It's completely opposite of what they say it is, and they have turned it into a religion.

00:40:04.960 And you can't be reminded enough that this is the religion of Leo's church, and they're bringing it in.

00:40:12.540 They mentioned in the piece when they're discussing the new Cardinal in New York that people need to realize they just brought in a guy from the Dominican Republican to Palm Beach where Mar-a-Lago is,

00:40:23.500 and they need to start listening to the church and listening to the peoples.

00:40:28.460 This is all political.

00:40:32.160 You know, the piece that we looked at at the Financial Times, which is a neoconcentral about the new Archbishop of New York, Bishop Hicks, is all about Cardinal Dolan.

00:40:41.000 How Cardinal Dolan fought Obamacare, how Cardinal Dolan was happy the day that they elected Trump.

00:40:46.220 I mean, that is the enemy.

00:40:48.920 Even though we look at Cardinal Dolan, we say, well, what did he do that was so great?

00:40:52.740 The fact that he even uttered a peep politically is why they love this new Archbishop of New York.

00:40:59.440 Even though he's going to be so repulsive to people, he probably won't have any kind of media presence whatsoever.

00:41:05.200 It doesn't matter as long as he's not Cardinal Dolan and he never, ever says anything nice about Catholics or conservatives.

00:41:14.820 It's all politics.

00:41:18.160 The problem with Cardinal Dolan for the mainstream medium for the liberal Catholic press, Cardinal Dolan wasn't a communist.

00:41:25.440 And that obviously, for some sections of the church, is basically tantamount to being a goose-stepping fascist.

00:41:36.220 I just want to add one thing.

00:41:37.880 Before we go over to Jenny, who's got an amazing story, I think, about the report on the collapse of health and the death mortality rate due to the United States moving, changing Sunday trading laws.

00:41:55.140 We'll go to that in a moment.

00:41:56.420 I just want to make an observation to this, right, because the new Archbishop-elect of Westminster, who is the de facto spiritual leader of English Catholics, right,

00:42:05.820 put out a statement along with the Archbishop of Birmingham, which is the next big Catholic diocese in England, calling for empathy towards migrants.

00:42:14.980 As you said in the beginning, Frank, of your introduction, the migrants thing is the number one priority of this new guy.

00:42:22.100 I just have a comment, you know, I don't want to be too provocative, but, you know, when they're sort of putting out these statements,

00:42:32.200 reminding people that, or trying to get people to believe that the Holy Family were asylum seekers,

00:42:41.360 because I have a very quick reflection in as far as that is true.

00:42:47.220 When St. Joseph led the Holy Family out into Egypt, first point to make,

00:42:52.300 they were actually fleeing an authentic, genuine persecution, the Massacre of the Innocents, right, led by King Herod.

00:43:01.760 Point one. Point two, they worked, they didn't live sponging off the benefits paid for by the Egyptians.

00:43:11.040 And point three, most importantly, when the persecution finished, they went back and settled back in Nazareth, right? 0.61

00:43:19.900 These are three things that you never hear a Catholic hierarchy talking about when they're saying that we have to have empathy for migrants,

00:43:28.620 and like, and suggesting that the Holy Family were asylum seekers.

00:43:32.560 Three fundamental points here.

00:43:34.240 You never see the Catholic Church referring to, with regards to invaders.

00:43:40.540 They fled a legitimate terror.

00:43:42.800 They worked, right, and contributed.

00:43:46.520 They didn't just sponge off benefits.

00:43:48.200 And then after the persecutions, they went back.

00:43:51.180 Yeah, they were great citizens while they were in Egypt, too, from what the visionaries have said.

00:43:56.740 You know, I forgot to mention, I forgot to mention for your listeners that this, at this, this meeting, this consistory,

00:44:03.420 they're having a new Eucharistic prayer for various needs,

00:44:06.780 where they're going to talk about unity and pulling all the human race together as one.

00:44:11.340 A bunch of evil stuff right close to the, in the canon of the Mass that they've never used before.

00:44:16.900 They've just sort of tabled it.

00:44:18.080 It was a Paul VI idea.

00:44:19.200 This gives us a hint of the liturgy that they're going to be discussing for your people.

00:44:24.160 It's a hint.

00:44:25.100 They might be discussing how to ruin the liturgy in a whole new way.

00:44:28.980 I just wanted to get that out there, because that's like new news.

00:44:31.560 It was referenced by Chris Hale, what I call the apparatchik.

00:44:34.440 Chris Hale from the Obama administration, the apparatchik, who's brought this together.

00:44:38.860 So I think it's meaningful.

00:44:41.700 Just, I just want to flag up, when you said that they were praying for unity,

00:44:44.600 I heard you say, because I'm all blocked up at the moment, mentally as well.

00:44:49.200 I heard you say that they're praying for nudity.

00:44:53.140 Play back the tapes, I'm sure.

00:44:55.380 Right.

00:44:56.140 That's something I'm sure they would.

00:44:57.560 I'm sure that's something they'd pray for.

00:44:59.180 I don't think they did.

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00:47:25.900 Jenny, tell me.

00:47:27.800 I know that the grains of sand are trickling down to the hourglass.

00:47:33.720 Tell me about this report and the damage that the repeal of the Sunday trading laws have done

00:47:41.160 in the 1980s in the States have done to the mortality rate of white middle-aged Christians.

00:47:50.640 Yeah, this is astounding, actually.

00:47:51.960 So a study in the Journal of European Economic Association, if I think I'm getting it right,

00:47:57.760 found that from 1961 to 1991, which is the time span of the states sort of independently repealing

00:48:11.700 the no trading on Sunday laws, that deaths of despair went up

00:48:18.340 and that there was a strong link between the Sunday trading, starting Sunday trading,

00:48:25.380 and eventually the deaths of despair among middle-aged people.

00:48:29.240 I think the exact wording was that data confirmed that religious attendance fell among middle-aged residents

00:48:39.120 in states that repealed the blue laws, which were the laws prohibiting Sunday trading.

00:48:43.160 And that was followed by rising death rates from suicide, liver disease, and drug poisoning.

00:48:50.860 Now, the fact that they're so categorical in linking and so strongly linking these things

00:48:56.840 is really extraordinary to me.

00:49:00.280 There was a 40% mortality increase by 1996, the study says.

00:49:07.080 And to me, actually, there's a couple of things that really stand out in this to me.

00:49:11.420 One is the sort of very clear link that they show.

00:49:15.720 Two is that the study was published at all.

00:49:20.240 It was done by researchers from Wesley College at Notre Dame and Ohio State.

00:49:26.280 And, you know, we're more accustomed to seeing stories about crazy studies about, you know,

00:49:31.840 is my dog trans or something coming out of these journals and these woke universities.

00:49:37.120 But in this case, something actually valuable might have snuck through.

00:49:42.340 And the other thing I want to say is that actually reminds me very poignantly of the late Charlie Kirk's most recent book,

00:49:50.100 which was published recently, which was about the importance of honoring the Sabbath.

00:49:54.360 I think that I hope I hope I hope this study is is widely read.

00:49:59.660 I'm glad I'm glad we're showcasing it on the show, because I would like people to start thinking about this again.

00:50:05.360 The turn back to tradition where people are realizing that taking a day and keeping it for family and for faith and only family and faith provides exponential benefits in the material world,

00:50:22.200 as in your health and your longevity.

00:50:24.540 Jenny, thanks, and I'm very grateful that you flagged this up, this story up over the Christmas break.

00:50:32.720 The actual fact here that really is quite surprising, because if you think about it, it's quite a high figure.

00:50:38.880 The the number of deaths due to despair, which is a very tragic thing even to contemplate,

00:50:45.600 increased by about two out of every hundred thousand people.

00:50:49.060 And the report that you have there sort of indicates the breakdown of the details.

00:50:56.000 I just want to thank you, Jenny and Frank Walker, for your for coming on and sharing your insights with us.

00:51:02.060 There has been some breaking news on the show since we've been on air, which our producer, Cameron Wallace, did ask me to mention.

00:51:08.880 And that's to do with the ICE agent fatally shooting a woman who was attempting to run over an ICE agent as they were about their duties.

00:51:18.240 That's in Minneapolis. And that the War Room is going to be reporting on that development later on.

00:51:25.200 Quickly, 30 seconds left. Jenny, where do people go on social media to get you?

00:51:29.040 Frank Walker, where do people go on social media to get you? Jenny, you first.

00:51:32.980 Well, I have a new YouTube channel and I'd like to tell War Room that tomorrow Ben Harnwell,

00:51:38.520 the one and only Ben Harnwell, will be featured on it.

00:51:41.520 That's called Saving Culture From Itself.

00:51:43.340 And I also write every week, I write an essay on my Substack, which is at JennyEHolland.Substack.com.

00:51:51.200 Frank Walker, 10 seconds.

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00:52:06.420 Thanks to Cameron Wallace, our producer, and our CLAC team, Will and his colleagues in Denver.

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Bannon's War Room - January 07, 2026

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