WarRoom Battleground EP 929： Islamic Law Promoted In The US; Closing Loopholes In Texas
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In this episode of War Room, Texas, host Stephen K.K.Bannon is joined by Joanne Fleming and Raymond Ibrahim to discuss Islamic invasions, Sharia Law, and the invasion of the West by Islamic extremists.
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Why in the hell do you think they're in Houston and in north of Dallas?
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They are working together to overthrow western civilization.
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Sharia compounds, which are areas governed by religious rules.
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We know who you are, we know what you are, and we know what you're trying to accomplish,
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and it is not going to happen in the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic.
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We purge any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas.
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You are not here properly, and you're going to leave.
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On the 3rd of March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas.
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The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another.
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We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it.
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Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas.
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As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world.
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Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?
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War Room, Texas. Your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Starts right now.
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It's Monday, 19 January, in the year of our Lord, 2026.
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We're going to go from Budapest to the heart of Texas.
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Joanne Fleming joins us. She's the head of Grassroots America, We the People,
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a grassroots organization very focused on this 3 March primary, where on the ballot is Proposition 10
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to ban Sharia law from the state of Texas as an opening salvo on stopping the Islamic invasion of Texas.
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Also, Raymond Ibrahim, one of the world's leading experts on all things radical Islam
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and the Islamic invasion and takeover of Europe, joins us from Budapest.
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You're also, besides being a best-selling author and one of the most beloved guests on the War Room
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over the years, as you've put out three books since you've been joining us about Islamic invasions,
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you're also a fellow, is it, at the Danube Institute in Budapest, sir?
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Yes, I am, Steve. For this year, I'm a visiting fellow at the Danube Institute,
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a great place and a lot of resources to work with.
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So, you know, why is Hungary have an institute that has Raymond Ibrahim as a senior fellow for a year,
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and why is it appropriate to have you on at least once a week in War Room, Texas,
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And particularly, the governor in our state led, got in front of the president
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and he designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
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In fact, he designated them an international terrorist organization
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that's going to be investigated and driven out of Texas along with CARE.
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Your thoughts about all that, sir, particularly about these Islamic invasions?
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It's just Islam is growing, and they can't keep the cat in the bag anymore.
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When the Muslim population and the Muslim presence in the West was small,
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and Islamophobia and multiculturalism and diversity, etc., etc.
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But inasmuch as Islam grows, and obviously here in Europe, it's where it's reached critical mass,
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So it's become really an issue, and people are starting to see it everywhere from the U.K.,
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all throughout the Scandinavias and Germany and France,
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and wherever you're getting these large Muslim populations,
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you're seeing what comes along with them, which is, we can say, Sharia.
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And by the way, that word gets thrown around a lot,
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and I think it's important for people to understand its etymology and its meaning.
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And in its origin, as with so many Islamic words, Arabic words,
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they really go back to sort of 7th century Bedouin tribalism from the time of Muhammad,
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and all the trilateral roots of the word Sharia,
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It's where you get water in these extremely desiccated and parched regions.
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It means Allah's way to have you live your life and to live the proper life,
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which is just all these rules and laws as found in the Quran and in the Sunnah,
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enshrined in the Sunnah based on the Hadith, the words and sayings of Muhammad.
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And in short, this is why I find it interesting,
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because I hear some people acting like Islam is its own thing and Muslims,
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and then Sharia is another thing, as if to be a Muslim is not to practice Sharia.
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But, well, saying a Muslim does not necessarily have to practice Sharia
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is like saying a Muslim doesn't have to believe in the Quran or follow the Quran.
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So, of course, every Muslim, when they come, this is why I also find it interesting in some of the laws that I'm seeing proposed.
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They're against Sharia, which is good, all well and good.
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But in a sense, if they understood the deeper context, the way I'm trying to explain it,
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well, you're really saying you're against Islam.
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And so it's kind of interesting because Muslims are allowed to migrate to Western nations in the United States,
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but they have to leave Sharia at home, which is fine.
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I mean, if you can do that, but the fact is, if you're a Muslim in and of yourself,
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that means you've submitted to the law of Allah, the law of life, which is Sharia.
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So anyway, I think Islam is becoming a huge issue and it's spilling over,
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especially with what's happening in Texas, that epic city, which is now I think called the Meadows.
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And we should at some point, I'll take a break right here and let you talk,
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but we should talk about the concept of al-Rabat because this is exactly what these are.
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These enclaves are historical rabats, which were essentially jihadist fortifications
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intentionally placed right on the frontier of infidel territory.
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Let me go back to the argument before I bring you in and also the argument that,
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hey, you've got freedom of religion in the United States.
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They don't make this argument in Europe anymore.
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You couldn't do anything with the Muslims because you're imposing on their religion.
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But now that they've got critical mass or they're beginning to get critical mass in France
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and in the Netherlands and in the United Kingdom, you don't hear that argument anymore.
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They're brazen in what they propose, the imposition of Sharia law and how they're going to just,
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But what about this argument that you've seen thrown up?
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Well, it's just a religion, and if you're going to let Christianity,
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Well, Christianity can flourish without us necessarily doing anything active.
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Just let Christians preach, let them live their lives.
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But Islam is codified with rules, the active rules that you have to do.
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Okay, so we know, so for example, things like prayer and fasting, you know, the five pillars of Islam,
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But there's other things as well, which is, for example, killing the apostate.
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That's why you can, Christianity can flourish side by side with what is perceived as secular governance,
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And this, I think, is something that Islam and the so-called left actually have in common with each other,
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because they both do believe in, you know, squashing free speech about anything they don't like,
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and that's exactly what Islam's blasphemy laws are.
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So maybe the left is fine with that, to that sense.
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But as you can see, in a strictly true free country, a free democracy with freedom of speech,
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you can't have something like blasphemy codes, even though it is completely enshrined in Islam.
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And then you also have, okay, Christianity is a monogamous by nature, and that's sort of what we have right now.
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Well, if you allow Islam, now you have polygamy, up to four wives, and also concubines, infidels who are enslaved,
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and your right hand possesses, according to the Koran.
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Christianity can flourish, and it still walks side by side with the law, whereas Islam, because it is its own law,
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okay, secular Western law developed side by side with Christianity,
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so the two are very much synchronized in a sense, or at least they were in their founding and origin.
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But Islam is a very alien, hostile, different creed.
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And as I just mentioned to you, just a few of the things that are completely honor killings, for example,
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they're not in Sharia law, but of course they're part of the culture as well.
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So you get a lot of this baggage that, I don't think it's completely comparing apples and oranges
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when people say Christianity and Islam, it's the same thing.
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When Muslims become citizens and swear allegiance to the United States and to the Constitution,
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I know there's a concept in Islam that you can lie to the infidel,
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and there's not a problem as long as you're promoting Islam.
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But can a Muslim actually take to become a citizen of the United States,
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can they actually swear allegiance to the Constitution and to our republic
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Yes, they can do it, but just like you said, they can do it as a part of taqaga,
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which means, okay, the original teaching, the original law,
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is you have to actually have always hatred for non-Muslims.
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This is in the Quran, 64, chapter surah 60 and ayah 4,
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where it talks about Ibrahim, Abraham, and how he's a good example to every Muslim,
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we hate and renounce you and enmity will last forever until you believe in Allah.
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If you're a non-Muslim, you are to be disliked and hated.
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Okay, and just to really underscore this, our good friends and allies,
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Saudi Arabia and Qatar, many years ago, I found on their websites,
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their official governmental websites, because in those nations, of course,
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Sharia and the government are one and the same.
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They actually had fatwas talking about how you have to hate Americans,
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and everyone, but they also spoke about Americans because they're infidels.
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And this is the doctrine, it's known as loyalty and enmity, or al-wala'u al-bara'u in Arabic.
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But again, to give you an idea, but at the same time,
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Saudi Arabia comes and dances with U.S. presidents and European leaders
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and dances with their swords and kiss each other.
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And also, you cannot pledge allegiance to an infidel, willingly,
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So if you do it to preserve your life or as a stratagem,
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So, strictly speaking, when a Muslim comes and pledges allegiance to America,
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or if he feigns loyalty and he does it in the context of taqayya,
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So, on the one hand, Muslims are commanded not to befriend
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and not to associate and certainly not to be loyal to non-Muslims.
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But on the other hand, there is this little caveat where,
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this is one of the major reasons behind the Inquisition, for example,
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in Spain, because Muslims had converted nominally,
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but they were still working with jihadist groups like the Ottomans
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And, yeah, I mean, of course, a Muslim can tell me,
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hey, I pledged allegiance to America and I believe it,
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but that does not accord with strict Islamic teaching,
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which does say you cannot, I can pull up the Quran verse,
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I think it's 328, which says you cannot be loyal,
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And another one, it says you have to hate the Christians and the Jews,
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And then it says, unless it's by way of precaution,
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which is you're basically lying because it's in your own benefit.
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They've come in, they come into these societies on cat's paws, right?
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They come in at first, but then they reach a critical mass.
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That's why people are trying to get ahead of this.
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The governor has designated the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE
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He said there's been massive investigations going on,
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But they have been building, there's two mosques per month,
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The majority of those, I believe, in the greater Houston area
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But you talked about, this is a concept they've used before.
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Talk to me about, like, Epic City, or now called the Meadows.
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They look at these as garrisons on the frontier of the infidels
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to ultimately look at taking over their societies
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So historically what happened is wherever Muslim jihadists
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which were a great amount, as we know, of course,
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all of the Christian North Africa and the Middle East
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there they would form garrisons and fortifications.
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they would become, they would be jihadists par excellence,
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And there were multiple frontier zones historically
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in Asia Minor, in Anatolia, in the north and south,
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was primarily Christian at that point, and in the south.
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is now Muslims are not forming these fortifications
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this is why I say it's not even that they're consciously
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it's an organic manifestation of the rabat concept,
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when they come to a country like the United States,
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we want all the good stuff your country has to offer,
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the deeper doctrinal historical dimensions to this,
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weeks ago. Gert Wilders from the Netherlands, an individual that warned his country, warned Europe
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about this invasion decades ago, and now is one of the leading political figures. In fact, he keeps
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deportations of Muslims in his own country, and we had the great Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck was absolutely
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hearings. You know, Brian Harrison sent these letters. Are you talking about hearings first?
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Then I take it you want a special session. You're saying this has got to be codified.
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We have to take Governor Abbott's declaration of calling. And look, I've been someone that's not
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been Governor Abbott's best ally ever. I've been kind of opposed to a lot he's done, but I give a
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hat tip that he did come out in front of the president of the United States and head of Governor
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DeSantis, who I know is very worried about the same topic. He designated him a terrorist organization,
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and he threw in care, which I think is very important. He says there's investigations going on.
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They're going to put more meat on the bone on that. But you're saying, hey, we got a legislature
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that's famous. Let's get on with it. Hearings first, hear from citizens, hear from experts,
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then call a special session and let's codify it. Is that basically your plan? Is that what you
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recommend happen? Go ahead. Yes, absolutely, Steve, because I've got to tell you, the legislature
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over the last 23, 24 years is infamous for passing every exit on a dangerous highway and
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doing nothing. You know, talking a lot about it and getting nothing done. I'm going to tell you,
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since Governor Abbott decided to drive a stake in the ground on this, we absolutely need to have a
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sense of urgency from the Lieutenant Governor, a Republican, and the Republican House Speaker,
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Mr. Burroughs, to get something done. They need to codify this. They need to come in and support
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Governor Abbott on this for the good of Texas. Well, look, we've got to save Texas because if we
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don't save Texas, we aren't saving the United States. And yeah, this is going to be a big battle.
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It's going to be a brutal battle and it may be dangerous. But you know what, Steve? You got to
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love Texas more. And we do. And so that's why I say we're going to ask them to close the loopholes
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that they left for Epic City. We want them to stop the money going to the mosque and to these
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Islamist communities in Texas. We want the local elected officials to stop funding them. And we want
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to codify, you know, this designation that Governor Abbott has done and include language in it for
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crying out loud that will cover it. If they morph into something else and change their names, we want
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to make sure that we've got everything covered.
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Joanne, one of the things we're doing, obviously, a lot of people are doing research now. They're getting
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into the state, what's published on state websites. People are looking at this. Some of the money
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and we're trying to get we're trying to get our arms around it. But it looks like you may have a
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situation here almost as bad as what they got in Minnesota with the Somalians. But what I don't
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understand is why is the lieutenant governor, your lieutenant governor, who's supposed to be a
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conservative, has been the biggest pusher of these schools like Harmony, etc., which are basically
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Islamic schools. This one driven by a quite dangerous, I would say, you know, cult tied to a Turk
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who had exile here in the United States away from Erdogan, but was a pretty militant brand
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of Islam. Why is the lieutenant governor of the state been such a driver, not just in the school
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choice program, but to make sure that you could actually start these Islamic schools, ma'am?
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I don't know, Steve. I haven't talked to Dan about it, but he is sadly misinformed and in a dangerous
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way. I will tell you that as we're talking to state board of education candidates, you know,
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the state board of education approves the charters for charter schools. And so we're questioning them
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on this topic to ask them if they have any idea of what kind of a threat this is to us, because in
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those schools, they teach hatred of America and the United States Constitution. Look, this is not a
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religious liberty issue. This is about an ideology, a push toward a form of law that completely subverts
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the United States Constitution. We cannot have it. Just as Congressman Self said, they are diametrically
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opposed. They cannot coexist. These two forms of law cannot coexist in the United States and certainly
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not in the state of Texas. Joanne, you're leading an effort to make sure that everything comes
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together on primary day on 3 March, including a massive push to pass its highest possible percentage
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of vote, Proposition 10, which is really about banning Sharia law in Texas. Where do people go
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to find out more about the grassroots efforts you're leading and the details of what you're saying about
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this Islamic invasion and how we have to really stop it, start to stop it on March 3rd on this
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on this primary day? Ma'am. With grassrootsamericawethepeople.com, that's G-A-W-T-P.com.
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And before the end of this week, we will have launched this effort. And we want people to know that at
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your precinct level, at your county level, at your Senate district level, we're asking all of our
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coalition leaders, we have a statewide coalition, we're asking them all to activate their local
00:38:39.180
groups to get people out to vote on this issue. It is not, you're not creating law, it's not like
00:38:46.380
it's a constitutional amendment, but you are sending a very strong message to elected officials that
00:38:53.460
you've had enough of it, and you want them to put Texas first.
00:38:57.540
Joanne, social media, do you have, you got a website you go to, do you have social media
00:39:03.940
people can track your coordinates? Yes, at G-A-W-T-P, G-A-W-T-P. Yes, sir?
00:39:13.940
Ma'am, as long, as long as Texas has folks like you that are tough as boot leather, things are going
00:39:19.740
to turn out fine. Honored to have you on here, honored to be working with you on this topic.
00:39:23.660
That's what you get with conservative Texas women, Steve. Tough.
00:39:31.640
Thank you, ma'am. Thank God. Thank God in heaven we got them. Thank you, ma'am.
00:39:38.980
Raymond, we're going to have you on a lot because you're, I think, one of the best educators of
00:39:43.660
people in the world. You come from a long line of Coptic Christians, correct?
00:39:48.800
Yeah, Coptic Christians, and those are the indigenous inhabitants of Egypt who are, of
00:39:55.100
course, all Christian. And the very word Coptic actually comes from the same word of Egyptian,
00:40:01.140
you know, Egypt, Gipt, became Copt. So when the Arabs entered and conquered Egypt, they just
00:40:06.340
dropped the first and last syllable and called them the Gipt's, and we became known as the Copt.
00:40:11.220
So yeah, it's an ethnic, but it's also a religious designation. And they're the descendants of the
00:40:16.700
pharaohs, actually. I like to remind people that even the Coptic language, which still exists in
00:40:21.460
the liturgy, is the direct descendants of the pharaonic language, which has nothing to do with
00:40:25.900
Arabic, of course, even though Arabic is today the primary language of Egypt. It's, yeah, it's the
00:40:32.420
Coptic language. So yeah, we know a lot about Islam. We're about one of the earliest groups of people
00:40:38.040
who encountered the jihadist sword. Like I said, right around 640. This would only be eight years after
00:40:44.980
Muhammad's death and about 70 years before Islam reached the, you know, France and the Battle of
00:40:51.340
Tours. And, you know, you fast forward to now, literally 14 centuries, and they're still the
00:40:57.620
number one people who tend to be maybe other than maybe Christians in Nigeria and in other sub-Saharan
00:41:04.340
nations, the Copt and the other indigenous Christians like the Assyrians in Iraq and in Syria.
00:41:12.720
But hang on. I want to go back. If we can put up, if we can put up the covers of his books, because
00:41:18.380
folks, I strongly recommend you get all three books in regards to this. You will hear that you'll see
00:41:24.880
the history of this invasion, not just in the West, but throughout the entire world, number one,
00:41:31.020
Sword and Scimitar. You'll then, his second book was about the heroes that stood in the breach of which
00:41:37.760
people in this audience are going to have to replicate those heroes. Defenders of the West,
00:41:42.020
which were just incredible. And now you've got the one about the military orders during the
00:41:46.780
Crusades, the Knights Hospitur, the Knights of St. John, and the Knights Templars. Raymond, the books
00:41:52.520
are gripping. But I just want to leave folks with the following. Greatest state of Texas is, and I say
00:41:59.620
this as a Virginian, and as a Virginian, you're raised to think that Virginia is not just the greatest
00:42:05.500
state in the Union, but the Union wouldn't exist if it was not for Virginia. You know, it's called
00:42:10.480
the mother of presidents, you know, with Washington and Jefferson and even in the Civil War, right?
00:42:16.720
The leaders of both sides. So Virginian takes a, have, are from small children are imbued with this
00:42:25.140
love of the Commonwealth and how important it's been in history. And I say this now as an adult in my
00:42:30.520
70s, that having traveled the entire world and have, I have a pretty good feel for geopolitics and
00:42:37.000
geoeconomics, uh, and also the populist nationalist movement that is kind of driven throughout the
00:42:42.740
world now, that Texas is unique. It is the jewel of the crown of the American Republic. And the Islamists
00:42:50.040
have targeted Texas. It's different than Dearborn, Michigan, although they're trying some of the same
00:42:54.320
thing. It's different than New York City, the financial capital of the world. They understand that if they can
00:43:00.520
take over Texas, uh, they can basically take over the American Republic and therefore change world
00:43:06.820
history. This is a very organized, uh, very thoughtful plan to do this. Don't think these
00:43:12.720
people are dumb. They are not dumb. They're very cunning and they're very smart. And that's why it's
00:43:17.260
got to be thwarted. Um, and I want to leave people and Raymond jump in here. They came out, these are
00:43:23.720
better ones that came out of a, a wilderness, a desert, like you've never seen a desert in your life.
00:43:29.100
And then the matter of 70 years, they conquered Persia, Babylon, uh, Syria, what is today, uh,
00:43:39.540
you know, Israel, but North Egypt, the ancient civilization, most ancient civilization. I think
00:43:44.560
we have even more than China, Egypt with a very strong religious bent in North Africa. I tell people,
00:43:51.060
I say St. Augustine, probably the greatest of the church fathers was, uh, was a Berber out of North
00:43:56.700
Africa. They conquered North Africa and were into Spain and came within, I think 150 miles of Paris
00:44:04.120
where they were stopped with by Charles Martel. Uh, Raymond, this came out of the Middle East
00:44:10.880
or came out of Saudi Arabia, uh, on fire. And they understand that. And that's why they're trying to
00:44:18.060
conquer the United States of America. And they're trying to do it through Texas, sir, your thoughts.
00:44:23.760
That's exactly right, Steve. Um, it's, it's that long, painful history that most people are unaware
00:44:30.480
of that really underscores everything we're talking about and should make things very clear because
00:44:35.140
from the get go, from right from the beginning, once Islam started spreading, it was primarily
00:44:39.980
against Christian territories. The, the, the exception would be Persia, Zoroastrian Persia, but the rest of
00:44:45.520
those areas that you mentioned from greater Syria, Egypt, all the way westward were overwhelmingly
00:44:50.740
Christian Spain, of course, and then into France. And so a great many conquests, uh, were against
00:44:57.460
and, and that was just the beginning. Then later on the Turks, of course, took the Balkans and Asia
00:45:02.380
Minor and so forth. And, and, you know, you fast forward. So speaking of America, America's very
00:45:07.700
first war, people need to remember this as a nation after it gained independence was against Muslims under
00:45:13.620
the same exact logic. And, uh, I think we can, we can close with this final, you know, anecdote of
00:45:19.300
Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, who just don't, who didn't get it. They're enlightened thinkers.
00:45:24.180
And, um, here are Muslims from North Africa who are attacking, plundering, raiding American vessels,
00:45:29.540
enslaving, uh, American sailors. And Jefferson and Adams meet with the, um, the ambassador from Tripoli,
00:45:35.720
one of the Barbary states. And they ask him, they just say, what we, we, we, we don't count anyone our
00:45:40.680
enemy. We, we don't provoke anyone. And if no one provokes us, we won't attack them. Why don't we trade?
00:45:45.800
Why don't we have business? And he, the, the, the, uh, ambassador sounds just like ISIS. He's, he,
00:45:52.040
Jefferson wrote a letter to Congress and in the letter, Jefferson says, he told us that our prophet says
00:45:57.640
you're our enemy. Our, our Quran says we have to lay in wait, ambush you, kill you, use stratagems and
00:46:03.880
enslave you. And this was, of course, he didn't know this Jefferson, but he was paraphrasing the Muslim
00:46:08.620
Quran nine five, which is known as the sword verse. So it sort of makes sense when you fast forward to
00:46:14.520
today and you see all the complications that Europeans are having with Muslims and not just
00:46:20.240
Europeans, Australia, uh, wherever you have, you know, significant Muslim populations living side by side
00:46:25.920
with law and Muslims, as Samuel Huntington said in his book, uh, you know, Islam's borders are bloody as
00:46:32.340
are its innards, very true statement. So you fast forward and you come to today and, you know,
00:46:36.980
Americans by nature are a very, uh, hospitable people and they, you know, like they'll give you
00:46:42.640
the benefit of the doubt, but I think they're starting to learn, um, you know, if not from
00:46:46.600
history, I mean, to me, history just fills in the gaps. It gives us context. It makes you understand
00:46:51.120
what's happening, but they're, they're learning it the hard way, just the way the Europeans are learning
00:46:55.840
it the hard way that Islam is just at variance at odds with everyone else, especially Christian,
00:47:01.800
Western civilization. And it's not there to coexist in its initial nascent stages. Sure. It'll talk
00:47:08.300
about just like Muhammad did when he was weak. He had his own stratagem, which was when he was weak,
00:47:12.700
he preached tolerance and freedom and cooperation, no coercion in religion, et cetera. And when he became
00:47:19.640
strong, then all that tolerance went out the window and it was basically the sword, Islam or, or,
00:47:25.280
or conversion or vimitude. So you can expect that sort of treatment if, and when Muslims, uh, you
00:47:32.260
know, reach that sort of critical stage as they already are in parts of Europe. Um, you know,
00:47:37.320
Trump called it right when he said that Europe is undergoing a civilizational erasure. That's a
00:47:42.340
very important phrase that I think everyone should be cognizant of. And we don't want to reach that
00:47:47.220
point now. And like I said, it's always easier, always better. If you can dip it in the bud early on,
00:47:52.560
rather than wait and have it, you know, mushroom to a huge problem. Think about places like the UK
00:47:57.860
and Germany and France, what, you know, they have like 10, 15% Muslim population. So even if they end
00:48:04.820
immigration right now, this is something they're going to always have to live with. And, uh, I don't
00:48:09.680
think we want to reach that point. No, it's terrible. I just want to remind people, uh, this church
00:48:15.900
started as a desert church that totally got erased. Also, these are ancient civilizations that had their
00:48:21.740
own religions, Persia, Babylon, Syria, Egypt, North Africa, and eventually they took Spain, I think,
00:48:28.880
for almost, uh, 800 or 900 years. Raymond, one more time, if we can put the books up, can you just
00:48:33.940
walk through briefly each book? Cause I want the audience, if you want to get educated, these are
00:48:39.720
the three best. They're highly readable. And, and Raymond writes it in a way that keeps you at the edge of
00:48:44.920
your seat. What is the first book? Sword and Scimitar. What is that about?
00:48:48.420
Yeah. Thanks, Steve. So the first book is Sword and Scimitar, the subtitle 14 centuries of war
00:48:54.120
between Islam and the West. And that one really, uh, follows the history of Islam's annexation and
00:49:00.100
conquest of Western Christian territory. As I had been saying, Egypt and Syria, all these nations that
00:49:05.640
people seldom think of as being Western. Well, they were part of Christendom. Actually, they were the
00:49:10.320
older, richer, more, uh, learned and sophisticated part of Christendom. People forget, and they were all
00:49:15.380
violently conquered. Um, so Sword and Scimitar looks at that in the context of the eight most decisive
00:49:21.620
battles that I talk about chronologically. So the first one would be the battle of Yarmouk, which led
00:49:27.020
to the conquest of Syria and Egypt. And the last one would be the siege of, uh, Vienna in 1683. But I
00:49:33.560
also talk about the Barbary, uh, wars that of America in 1801, 1805. And then, um, the second book would
00:49:40.360
be defenders of the West, the Christian heroes who stood against Islam. And this does, it follows the
00:49:46.500
same trajectory, but now through the lives and the lens of these heroes, eight heroes. Uh, so the
00:49:53.180
Sword and Scimitar is eight battles. This is eight heroes. And I go again, chronologically. Uh, so
00:49:57.960
there are many biographies, eight mini biographies of Christian warriors and their battles against Islam.
00:50:04.320
And I think there's a lot to learn from that in a lot of inspirational material as well. And then the
00:50:10.080
newest book, the two swords of Christ, uh, which deals with the military orders, especially the
00:50:15.720
Templars and the hospitalers and the wars against Islam, Islam, that really, and that's the longest
00:50:21.700
book. And that one really, if you're interested in the crusades, this is it because the Templars and
00:50:26.900
the hospitalers were the backbone of the crusade. So virtually every crusade is covered in detail,
00:50:31.160
but more importantly, and as captured by the title, two swords of Christ, that of course is a
00:50:36.020
reference to the biblical verse in Luke, where, uh, where Jesus tells his disciples, if you don't
00:50:42.780
have a sword, go sell your garment and buy one. And then they say, look, Lord, here's two swords.
00:50:46.780
And he says, that's enough. And, you know, to most modern day Christians, that verse means
00:50:51.200
absolutely nothing. You see, he's certainly not talking about swords, which begs the question,
00:50:55.540
what's he talking about? Um, to pre-modern Christians, especially medieval Christians,
00:50:59.600
and this comes out very often in these books because they would talk about these verses,
00:51:03.420
that verse meant, uh, you have two swords, one against spiritual enemies, which we still
00:51:08.180
acknowledge, but one against secular enemies, um, including the Muslims.
00:51:14.020
Uh, Raymond, you're coming to us live from Budapest. We appreciate it. What social media,
00:51:21.340
Uh, my website, RaymondDeBrahim.com, R-A-Y-M-O-N-D-I-B-R-A-H-I-M.com.
00:51:27.440
And I also have a sub stack, uh, also just put my name in and my website also has all the links to
00:51:33.000
my social media. I think, uh, at RaymondDeBrahim5 is my Twitter or, or X accounts and, uh, so forth.
00:51:41.880
Thank you, sir, for joining us from Budapest, a nation that did it right.
00:51:46.140
Victor Orban in Hungary. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
00:51:49.920
We'll be back tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. Eastern Standard. We'll see you then.
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