Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 933： Biden Is The Cause Of ICE Agents On American Streets And The AfD Is Now On 40% In Eastern Germany

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00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:00:48.000 Friday 23rd of January, Anno Domini, 2026.

00:00:59.000 Hardenwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.

00:01:03.000 Well, folks, we've made it to the end of the week,

00:01:06.000 what a roller coaster of a week it has been.

00:01:09.000 On Wednesday, on our show digging in a little bit into all things Christian, 0.97

00:01:15.000 we covered how three of the American bishops,

00:01:21.000 Catholic cardinals have made a really, relatively unprecedented intervention.

00:01:27.000 That's Cardinals, Sue Pitch, McElroy and Tobin calling for a moral foreign policy.

00:01:38.000 That was a real throw down on the Trump administration.

00:01:42.000 And there is some confusion here because the last person you're ever going to hear defending the Second Vatican Council is myself.

00:01:51.000 However, the council made it clear that the renewal of the temple order belongs to the laity, not to the clergy.

00:02:00.000 And you see the massive anti-conciliar instincts, if I might be provocative, on behalf of all these modernists

00:02:09.000 that are trying to take back to themselves these decisions, political decisions,

00:02:15.000 which belong to the laity or men and women of goodwill.

00:02:20.000 This is the whole point about the discretion that Catholics have in the political sphere. 0.99

00:02:28.000 To join me then, today's show, to go over some of these things, including the interventions some Catholics are making over ICE,

00:02:40.000 is Peter Wolfgang, the Executive Director of the Family Institute of Connecticut.

00:02:46.000 Peter, thanks for coming back onto the show.

00:02:48.000 The phones didn't stop ringing when you came on a couple of months ago.

00:02:52.000 Let's start off then with the two articles that you published recently over the course of the past week in Catholic culture.

00:03:01.000 Because I think, you know, some of the things here, you're the only person saying what I've been thinking.

00:03:07.000 And I'd like you, if you wouldn't mind, just to dig into this a little bit more.

00:03:13.000 Firstly, let me cite you, because you're saying here that we're talking here about the shooting of Renee Goode.

00:03:22.000 And you make the argument that the ICE agent himself might not have looked to him that she was swerving to get away at the last moment.

00:03:36.000 And you obviously make the point that he'd also faced a vehicular assault before.

00:03:42.000 The intentionality, therefore, is important here.

00:03:46.000 And I just wondered if I might lean on your authority on these things.

00:03:50.000 If you could just explain a little bit, because there might be some confusion here,

00:03:56.000 even amongst Catholics of goodwill that perhaps haven't studied theology quite so profoundly.

00:04:03.000 But why is intentionality important in Catholic morality?

00:04:08.000 And why does it have an influence to bear on the present discussion to do with Renee Goode's killing?

00:04:18.000 Well, Ben, first, thank you for having me back.

00:04:20.000 You are referencing my January 9th article at CatholicCulture.org.

00:04:27.000 And in that article, it was titled,

00:04:31.000 Critics of Minnesota Ice Shooting Face Uphill Climb, Here's Why.

00:04:36.000 And your question gets to the very first reason of here's why.

00:04:41.000 In my article, I'm talking about the frame of mind that the agent may have been in who shot Renee Goode.

00:04:50.000 And I'm reacting to what I saw in a New York Times video.

00:04:56.000 The New York Times put out a video making the argument that Renee Goode was swerving her tires.

00:05:03.000 She was swerving her tires to get away from the agent, to not run over the agent, which may well be.

00:05:10.000 But two things can be true at the same time.

00:05:13.000 And I'll get to your point about your question about Catholic theology and intentionality and why that's important.

00:05:20.000 But just as a as a pragmatic matter, what it looked like to me when I watched the and, of course, what we really need is some sort of official finder of fact, whoever that would be.

00:05:32.000 The rest of us can all speak about this on the Internet.

00:05:35.000 But we really need some finder of fact to figure that out.

00:05:38.000 I can tell you from my perspective, looking at those videos, what I saw and I looked at several of those videos, it may well be that Renee Goode was swerving her tires and trying not directly to run over that agent.

00:05:54.000 But from other videos, it looks like she was aiming right for him.

00:05:58.000 You know, she she she hit the guy and it it didn't look good from his perspective.

00:06:05.000 So I think it's quite possible that even if she was swerving her tires away from his perspective, he didn't know that.

00:06:14.000 I mean, she should have got out of the car the moment the agent said, get out of the car. 0.97

00:06:19.000 I mean, that's that's the moment where I think she crossed a moral boundary.

00:06:23.000 And I feel that way about the the anti ice protesters in general.

00:06:28.000 There's a fantastic article at I think the website is is called Compact by Alicia Nieves, who actually organized these rapid response networks initially during the first Trump administration when they were meant to do something peaceful and lawful, which is just record these arrests and get these people the legal help they need.

00:06:49.000 Now the ice agent, the anti ice protesters are doing something much more aggressive that I think does cross legal boundaries.

00:06:57.000 So from the perspective of this of this poor ice agent, I think it looked to him like she was coming for him, that she was going to run him down.

00:07:06.000 And he had already been through this once before he had been dragged.

00:07:09.000 I think the guy feared for his life.

00:07:12.000 Now, why does this matter in terms of intentionality with Catholic moral teaching?

00:07:17.000 Well, before you go into that, let's just make the point here, then the synthesis of what you're saying.

00:07:25.000 I don't know if it helps to name the guy to use his name in this conversation, but his name has publicly been released. Jonathan Ross. Right.

00:07:33.000 So important to see the argument you're making here before you go on now to the intentionality point is that he had a basically a split second to make an evaluation.

00:07:45.000 And there could have been a number of things on his mind in that moment.

00:07:49.000 And what was what was his thought of what was taking place at that moment in time would have dictated his response to that. Right.

00:07:57.000 So let's do that. Let's do this now. Let's go into the intentionality point of this.

00:08:02.000 So in in Catholic morality judges, the whole human act, and that's evaluated by three elements.

00:08:10.000 There's the object. What are you doing? There's the intention. Why are you doing it?

00:08:16.000 And there's the circumstances. How? When? By whom? With what effects?

00:08:21.000 So taking that those guidelines, look at the perspective of the agent.

00:08:26.000 I mean, was he trying to kill this woman out of out of malice? Was it gratuitous?

00:08:32.000 Was she was he trying to teach a lesson to the anti ice protesters?

00:08:36.000 It doesn't look that way to me at all. I mean, according to the government statistics, there have been there were ninety nine such episodes in 2025 last year of cars.

00:08:50.000 There's a lot of people trying to ram ice agents. They have been through this over and over again.

00:08:55.000 If anything, the ice agents have an incredible record of public safety, given how outrageously dangerous have been the activities of the protesters.

00:09:06.000 And this particular agent, as we said, had had been dragged.

00:09:10.000 So from his perspective, he's got a split second to think about this. Do I defend my life or do I get run over?

00:09:17.000 And he had to make that call. And I think, according to Catholic morality, which judges the intentionality, how, when, by whom, with what effects, I think he made the best call that he did over the circumstances.

00:09:31.000 And when we consider, you know, when we're looking at that big picture, I really don't think, according to Catholic morality, and I wrote about this in both my articles, I really don't think that the ice protesters, that is the anti ice protesters, the people against ice.

00:09:47.000 I don't think they have any or very little moral credibility here when compared with past protest movements.

00:09:55.000 And we can, we can quibble with some of those movements, we can talk about whatever the moral failings were of some of their leadership.

00:10:02.000 But when you think about Martin Luther King's early civil rights movement in the 1950s, early 1960s, when you think about the Operation Rescue pro-life protests of the 1980s, when you think about Gandhi and India in the 1940s, these were all nonviolent protests.

00:10:21.000 The protesters were all taught, certainly in the case of King and Operation Rescue, to go limp when you were being arrested. And that's not what's going on with ICE.

00:10:34.000 Because, okay, you make the point here that Catholic teaching allows civil disobedience.

00:10:41.000 But you make the point, and you underline this quite strongly, that the anti-ICE protests aren't comparable to Martin Luther King's civil rights protests, also because of the violent nature of the anti-ICE protests.

00:10:59.000 Because the Catholic-endorsed civil disobedience is predicated on a nonviolent response. Is that correct? 0.99

00:11:08.000 That is correct. And I'm pretty sure that I quote, I want to say it's paragraph 2243. I don't have the article in front of me. But it's either 2242 or 2243 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which does allow for civil disobedience.

00:11:25.000 Now, the very next paragraph does talk about the circumstances under which violence could happen.

00:11:32.000 But they throw down something like five criteria that have to be met. And they're very stringent.

00:11:37.000 And we are nowhere near that with what's going on right now.

00:11:41.000 That's more like something like what's happening in Iran or, I don't know, some other country where the oppression is of magnitudes higher than whatever it is that even the anti-ICE people think that they're facing in the United States of America right now.

00:11:58.000 Under normal circumstances, the civil disobedience, our faith does allow for and even encourage that under certain conditions, civil disobedience.

00:12:08.000 But it must be nonviolent then. And these tactics, I think, discredit the anti-ICE protesters.

00:12:15.000 And also, and this is very important, the cause. You know, fighting for racial equality is one thing or fighting to protect the unborn child, that's another thing.

00:12:27.000 What the anti-ICE protesters are fighting for here is an attack on public order altogether.

00:12:35.000 They're not saying the same thing. Even if we disagree with, say, Pope Leo or the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops about what is the proper role of U.S. immigration policy.

00:12:48.000 If you listen very closely to the Holy Father and to our bishops in the United States, they are not saying the same thing that the anti-ICE protesters are saying.

00:12:57.000 What they are saying is, look, immigrants need to be, they're human beings, they need to be treated with dignity.

00:13:02.800 And we could debate whether or not it's even fair to bring that up, whether or not they are being treated with dignity or not.

00:13:09.420 Maybe that's, it's unfair. But the fact is, that's all that the bishops are arguing.

00:13:14.240 The anti-ICE protesters, by contrast, they're arguing something different.

00:13:18.760 They want ICE abolished altogether. They want to return to Biden's policy of de facto open borders.

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00:14:55.980 So, back to Peter Wolfgang.

00:14:57.400 So, I have the text in front of me from the Catechism.

00:15:00.940 It's paragraph 2242.

00:15:04.740 And it says,

00:15:05.800 The citizen is obliged in conscience not to follow the directives of civil authorities when they are contrary to the demands of the moral order,

00:15:16.060 to the fundamental rights of persons or the teachings of the gospel.

00:15:20.820 And I think you've made a cogent argument why that's not the case at the moment.

00:15:25.720 What do you think, Peter Wolfgang, as a faithful Catholic, as someone who runs a Catholic organization,

00:15:32.400 what do you think and what would you say to confused faithful when you see your bishops and your cardinals descending into the political square

00:15:42.680 to make overtly political and partisan policy positions, portraying those positions as the official teaching of the church,

00:15:52.140 with very little reference to actually what the Catholic Church teaches?

00:15:57.720 You know, the late Father Richard John Newhouse, who was the founder of First Things magazine,

00:16:04.660 he had a saying,

00:16:06.180 Where it is not necessary for the bishops to speak, it is necessary for the bishops not to speak.

00:16:12.000 And what he meant by this, and this was meant as friendly advice to the bishops,

00:16:16.680 was just that, look, obviously the bishops need to speak on matters that go to the core of Catholic teaching,

00:16:25.800 issues that are preeminent, like the right to life of the unborn, where Catholic teaching is very clear.

00:16:31.860 And lesser issues, prudential issues, where there can be a legitimate plurality of Catholic opinion.

00:16:39.600 And in that phrase, I'm quoting Joseph Ratzinger, when he was, before he became Pope Benedict,

00:16:45.000 he talks about how there are some issues like abortion and euthanasia where you can't really disagree at all,

00:16:50.740 strike really, you can't disagree with the church on those issues and be a faithful Catholic.

00:16:55.520 There are other issues, and at the time he mentioned the death penalty and preemptive war,

00:17:00.380 where there can be a legitimate plurality of opinion among Catholics.

00:17:03.900 And I think that is the case with immigration policy.

00:17:08.040 You quoted a paragraph, as I did, 2242 in my article about how civil disobedience has to be respectful of the moral order.

00:17:18.060 Well, it doesn't violate the moral order to have borders.

00:17:22.280 You know, any country has borders, or it's not really a country.

00:17:26.420 And when you look at the anti-ice protesters, that's what's really going on here.

00:17:30.420 What they really want is open borders.

00:17:32.280 Under Joe Biden, we let in at least 10 million, perhaps 20 million or more illegals into this country.

00:17:40.160 They are the ones that created this situation where we now have masked federal agents on our streets trying to clean this up.

00:17:48.200 That is a violation of the moral order that it got to this point in the first place.

00:17:54.260 And that's not on the agents.

00:17:55.800 That's not on President Trump.

00:17:57.380 That's the people who gave us this mess.

00:17:59.220 And so it is a big, tangled, complicated thing.

00:18:02.160 And when the bishops step into it, they need to be very careful in how they articulate it.

00:18:09.320 And look, I'm not saying that the bishops can't speak on prudential issues.

00:18:14.080 I mean, there's a long history of Catholic social teaching stretching all the way back to Pope Leo XIII in the 1800s.

00:18:23.320 And it can be very helpful, but they need to be very careful.

00:18:27.860 I would like it if they would hedge it more and say, look, good people can come down on different sides of this issue.

00:18:34.880 Here is our considered judgment.

00:18:37.600 And I don't think they always do that.

00:18:39.480 You used the word confused, and I think that's right.

00:18:41.640 I think they can tend to confuse the faithful.

00:18:43.860 And there are certainly voices out there.

00:18:46.420 We saw this a lot during the Pope Francis era, voices out there that say, if you deviate in the slightest way from anything the bishops say, you're a heretic or a dissenter.

00:18:56.020 And it's just not true.

00:18:58.000 You know, you mentioned Pope Francis.

00:19:00.620 He really was the zenith of portraying his own personal political positions as the official teaching of the church.

00:19:11.100 End of story.

00:19:12.920 And I like the fact that you mentioned explicitly the point here about the prudential issues, because that's absolutely key to this, right?

00:19:23.360 And you actually, you see here the absurdity of that late, unlamented Pope Francis going on and on about sort of anti-clericalism and the need for the laity to be involved in sort of the synodality and all the rest of it.

00:19:43.800 But in fact, we haven't had a Pope as clerical as Francis since Pius XII, and arguably since before that.

00:19:55.960 Here was a guy who really insisted, effectively, his de facto behaviour in the public square was that there's no such thing as prudential issues.

00:20:04.700 I will tell you what are your essential political beliefs to be.

00:20:10.000 And there's very little difference between that kind of behaviour and a religious cult.

00:20:18.240 We have about like four or five minutes left.

00:20:22.640 The one thing I want to quickly hit in the rest of this segment is your argument here that it's actually the Catholic left itself that is responsible, along with Joe Biden, for the present situation that ICE is trying to work against.

00:20:39.420 Would you make that argument for the war room posse so they can see this and consider this?

00:20:45.220 Because the left, the Catholic left, I've seen that you have been under heavy attack on social media by some proponents of Catholic progressives.

00:20:55.120 They seem to be oblivious or deliberately oblivious to the fact that they are largely responsible for the present situation.

00:21:02.060 Well, there's a phrase that I'm sure war room viewers are well familiar with, Trump derangement syndrome, or TDS.

00:21:13.960 And, you know, I've often said the people, and I see them on my newsfeed, complaining day and night about President Trump, everything President Trump has done.

00:21:22.120 And look, you know, President Trump is not above criticism.

00:21:26.860 You know, my attitude towards him is transactional.

00:21:30.900 I'm not, I don't hang on his every word.

00:21:33.660 I think he's delivered for the Catholic faithful in many ways.

00:21:37.560 He overturned Roe versus Wade.

00:21:40.100 But what I've, so, you know, he's not above criticism.

00:21:42.620 But what I would say to the Trump derangement syndrome, and particularly to the Catholic left, is instead of, like, raging day and night about how people like me or any of the rest of us who voted for Trump, how did we do that?

00:21:56.820 Don't you see this?

00:21:57.740 Don't you see that?

00:21:59.180 What they really need to do, Ben, every single critic of President Trump, what they need to do, I've been saying this for a decade,

00:22:07.180 each and every one of them needs to look into the mirror and ask themselves, what's so wrong with me that I drove them to Donald Trump?

00:22:16.860 And I think they could do no better to answer that question, I think, than perhaps to listen to the war room, to Steve Bannon's war room,

00:22:24.540 and all the larger discussion about what has become of America, what's become of our country these last 25 years.

00:22:32.780 How has globalism worked out for our country?

00:22:35.380 Is there a better way?

00:22:37.300 I think the Trump administration was very articulate recently in Davos in arguing why, particularly the Commerce Secretary,

00:22:45.640 in why the policies that have been pursued for the last 25 or more, 30 years, have not been good for the United States of America,

00:22:54.280 why populism and nationalism have risen up, what are the needs that it fills?

00:22:59.960 And these guys, the Catholic left, man, they just don't care.

00:23:04.040 They live in their bubble, and they really like to hear themselves talk.

00:23:08.140 And they're not really interested in the fact that these things don't take place in a vacuum.

00:23:12.900 A lot has happened to our country in these last 25 years, a lot that has not been good.

00:23:19.100 Our situation has eroded.

00:23:20.700 There are very important thinkers like Steve Bannon and others that are trying to think their way out of this

00:23:28.020 and trying to look at the big picture and saying, look, we are in a historical moment here.

00:23:33.020 We're in kind of a hinge moment of history.

00:23:36.380 And whether you buy a particular theory of that or not, it's clear that we've lived through these sort of moments before.

00:23:42.380 And the Catholic left, all they can do is hear themselves talk.

00:23:45.680 It all just seems like a lot of performative virtue signalling.

00:23:51.620 You just mentioned that President Trump did deliver on abolishing or overturning Roe v. Wade

00:23:58.900 through his wise appointment of Supreme Court justices.

00:24:03.940 In the 60 seconds, 90 seconds that you have left, could you say what are you and faithful Catholics looking for from this administration

00:24:14.880 with regards to perhaps diplomatic outreaches towards the Vatican

00:24:21.800 in how the Vatican interferes in U.S. domestic politics?

00:24:27.800 And the background would be to this question, the fact that there's now being discussed openly

00:24:32.900 the possibility of President Trump going over to the Vatican to see Pope Leo.

00:24:39.160 What kind of message would you like to see the administration making there diplomatically?

00:24:45.980 Well, I think that there's not as much sunlight as is sometimes portrayed.

00:24:54.400 There's not as much distance as is sometimes portrayed between Catholic social teaching

00:24:59.260 and the policies of the Trump administration, even that it could be argued that in many ways

00:25:04.340 the Trump administration policy is much closer to Catholic social teaching

00:25:08.620 than pre-Trump versions of the Republican Party or conservatism.

00:25:13.360 I think that needs to be brought out a lot more, and the Vatican needs to appreciate that better, in my opinion.

00:25:20.200 You know, I would go as far as to suggest, though I wouldn't expect you to agree with me on this, Peter,

00:25:26.320 but I would go as far as to suggest that there are some things about this administration

00:25:30.540 that are more Christian and more Catholic than what's coming out of the Vatican itself.

00:25:36.140 I remember on the Feast of St. Michael the Archangel last year,

00:25:40.300 President Trump put out a statement on the official White House website

00:25:46.060 sort of congratulating Catholics for the Feast.

00:25:50.880 And that was like, I think, a more Catholic thing than that I cannot think of right now.

00:25:57.460 And yet I was aware of silence coming out of the Vatican.

00:26:00.540 So I would go slightly beyond what you're saying here.

00:26:03.680 I think in the political sphere, there are many Catholics of goodwill

00:26:07.440 that actually look for spiritual leadership in the political sphere

00:26:13.280 more from the White House than what they do from the Vatican.

00:26:17.200 That's really, I think, all the time we have now, Peter.

00:26:20.540 Sorry, because we could obviously spend the next hour going through these things.

00:26:25.060 Just very quickly, where do people go on social media to keep up with your output?

00:26:30.880 Well, they can go to my personal Facebook, facebook.com slash Peter Wolfgang,

00:26:36.100 and to our website, ctfamily.org.

00:26:41.000 That's Family Institute of Connecticut.

00:26:43.960 Peter Wolfgang, very grateful that you took the time out to come out

00:26:47.700 and share your analysis with the war impossible.

00:26:51.000 Hope to catch up again with you soon.

00:26:52.940 Take care, FNA. God bless.

00:26:53.820 Folks, stand by for Beatrix von Stork, who will be here on the War Room in 30 seconds' time. 1.00

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00:32:01.580 Welcome back.

00:32:02.320 Well, it's my great honor to bring on to the show now Beatrix von Stork,

00:32:06.020 the deputy leader of the Alternative for Deutschland, the AFD.

00:32:11.900 I know you're very busy, Beatrix, and you've come out of a meeting

00:32:15.800 and you're going to go back into one.

00:32:17.380 But I was very, very keen to have you on the show.

00:32:19.800 And I don't think I've interviewed you on the War Room since a year ago

00:32:23.260 when Steve was in prison.

00:32:25.220 And so we do have a lot to catch up with.

00:32:27.460 I did want to speak to you because the US Undersecretary of State,

00:32:34.460 Sarah Rogers, tweeted out something that you had said 10 years ago

00:32:40.100 with regards to the present political environment.

00:32:44.620 And I wanted your take on this.

00:32:46.780 I want to know from you what difference you're starting to see in Germany

00:32:52.900 with regards to your own domestic persecution of the state against the AFD.

00:32:57.900 What difference you're starting to feel now on the ground

00:33:00.740 with the fact that President Trump has been one year since he was inaugurated.

00:33:11.040 Before we do that, let's go through historically the situation that we're going to talk about now

00:33:17.340 and play this short video and then we'll talk about your reaction to it.

00:33:22.240 So here was an Islamic Facebook 0.99

00:33:40.300 So here was an Islamic theologian, who basically said, you heard her there, the subtitles were there, who was saying that it is legitimate for Muslims, conquerors, to take women as prisoners and then to rape them. 0.90

00:34:07.260 Yet, when you said almost, what, eight years ago, little more than that, on January the 2nd, I think it was, 2018, when you said that Muslims were rapist hordes entering Europe, you were, the state authorities, I mean, I know they dropped, I think, the case a couple of weeks afterwards, 0.65

00:34:32.440 but they opened immediate prosecution against you on hate crime grounds.

00:34:41.400 You were banned on Facebook, you were banned on, or they took your post down on Facebook, you were provisionally banned on Twitter.

00:34:49.400 That just indicates how much times have changed over recent years.

00:34:53.320 Just tell us your perspective, because, of course, the AFD is on like 25, 30 percent in the polls now in Germany, and it's doing very, very well.

00:35:03.360 Eight years ago, it was a very different situation, and it took a lot of courage to come out here and say what you said.

00:35:10.920 Just tell us a bit about what happened then and what's happening now.

00:35:14.400 So, I think one has to start with the context of the tweet I made at that very day, that was New Year's morning, I think it was 1st or 2nd of January, I think it was 1st, or even the 31st of December.

00:35:35.580 So, it was at the very moment when everyone was about heading to celebrate New Year's, and we in Germany had experienced a disaster a year ago at New Year's,

00:35:51.940 because we had hundreds of Muslims celebrating in Cologne, surrounding women, almost raping, you know, sexually, go after them, and, you know, being violent and everything. 0.89

00:36:08.740 It was a huge disaster the year before. 0.96

00:36:13.220 And then, the next year, so from 2017 to 2018, the same thing was about to happen again.

00:36:24.740 So, lots of Muslims from all over the place were travelling in trains towards Cologne, because they wanted to celebrate again, because they very much enjoyed what they did the year before.

00:36:37.880 And at the very moment, when all those Muslims were travelling in trains towards Cologne, the police made sure that they did not reach Cologne. 1.00

00:36:49.760 So, they picked them out of the trains, because they perfectly knew what was their plan.

00:36:56.000 And so, at the same time, while those Muslims were taken out of the trains to not enter Cologne, at the very moment, the police in Cologne and the region were sending out New Year's wishes on Arab language.

00:37:17.640 So, wishing you all the best for the new year, and hope you enjoy the night and have a nice party, something likewise, in Arab.

00:37:29.160 So, they were addressing those whom they, at the same minute, were trying to not have this party again, and to make sure that it did not happen again in Cologne.

00:37:41.540 And so, I just made a statement on this, and I was kind of strongly asking myself, putting it out on X, then Twitter, back then, asking why the hell is the police addressing those sex offenders, who in hundreds were trying to reach Cologne,

00:38:05.620 why are they addressing them, why are they addressing them in Arab language, and wishing them all the best for the new year?

00:38:13.560 They should have sent out a different message, like, don't even try, don't even, how do you dare to go to Cologne?

00:38:24.000 Just go back wherever you are, but don't even try to get there.

00:38:28.640 So, there was a perfect context for this coming, and then, I mean, then the whole, you know, jet storm started, and the legal process came in process.

00:38:43.460 Okay, but you were vindicated, because we just played the video clip of the Muslim scholar, of the Islamic scholar, and there, that was afterwards, right?

00:38:55.480 But that was, she was saying exactly what you had said in your tweet.

00:39:00.140 And that's perhaps where things would have left, had it not been for the fact that there is something going on now,

00:39:05.440 with the US administration, that is really starting to take seriously to the political persecution of the right now.

00:39:12.500 We heard J.D. Vance's speech to Munich at the Defence Conference a year ago.

00:39:17.980 We've seen the same thing repeated in the United States' strategic security document of a couple of weeks ago,

00:39:28.520 always underlying the point that the immigration here in continental Europe is undermining America's allies' ability to be allies to the United States.

00:39:38.440 Specifically, Denver, if you wouldn't mind putting up that tweet now on the screen, and we'll just talk about this.

00:39:46.860 What we saw, I think, just a couple of days ago here, is the Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy, I think, Sarah Rogers,

00:39:57.700 quoting you and attaching that, the headline there that you can see from the Muslim scholar.

00:40:09.000 This sort of thing, this sort of support from the White House, from an American administration, would have been unthinkable back in 2018.

00:40:20.740 Tell me, if you will, because the AFD has already been registered by the German security services as, I think, a domestic terrorist threat.

00:40:32.080 Tell me now, tell me now what, in fact, let's just have a quick ad read and I'll come back with the question,

00:40:39.140 because I want to know how American interest in the domestic German political situation is starting to make a difference in your favour.

00:40:49.160 That's really where I'd like to know now, because the administration is really starting to answer many people's prayers.

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00:42:44.280 Back to Beatrix von Stork. Beatrix, tell me, how is American interest making a difference now for the AFD in Germany?

00:42:56.840 Well, this has a heavy impact on what has been done by the administration and what has been done by Elon Musk, one must say,

00:43:05.220 because at that time I was forced to delete my tweet on that Twitter to have access to my account again.

00:43:14.560 And I was pursued. So there were critical complaints to possible incitement, to hatred.

00:43:22.860 They have been filed with the Cologne Public Prosecutor's Office.

00:43:27.760 So there was a huge press echo and everything. I was forced to put that tweet down and so forth.

00:43:36.600 So this has not changed. So first of all, on X, we have free speech back.

00:43:44.100 Now they are trying to go after X, of course, but still it has gotten much better than ever since.

00:43:51.700 And of course, every move the U.S. administration is doing is helping us, at least those globalist elites,

00:43:59.720 they start to understand that they have a heavy enemy in their fight to take down free speech.

00:44:08.600 I think the U.S. national security strategy puts it out very clearly, fristically, I would say,

00:44:14.420 that free speech is essential to democracy and that the United States is only willing also to, well,

00:44:21.900 protect allies when they stick to the same values.

00:44:26.740 And democracy and free speech is the center value we should all share.

00:44:33.260 And so this has kind of an impact for us. It's very, very important.

00:44:37.600 But, of course, still, our legal forces are going against us. 0.99

00:44:44.060 You know, we are brought to court still for, you know, calling our Minister for Economy an idiot. 0.93

00:44:53.220 So then they will come, they will search your house, they will confiscate your iPhone or whatsoever, 0.85

00:45:01.860 and your computer, it's still a disaster, but it's very helpful what is coming from abroad the ocean.

00:45:13.080 Can you tell me what, because I guess you're going to be right at the center of these moves as deputy leader,

00:45:19.200 could you tell me what the present state of play is with regards to the debate about finally eliminating the cordon sanitaire,

00:45:32.260 which blocks the AFD from participating in coalition governments?

00:45:40.800 You did mention, I think you were picked up in the Washington Post,

00:45:44.000 you did mention that if you aren't banned, if the AFD isn't banned,

00:45:49.200 you will eventually have to be involved, because there simply won't be any other majorities.

00:45:55.580 Tell me, I know that I have started to pick out, in fact, we covered this on the show last Friday,

00:46:00.600 that there are soundings now coming out from the CDU itself.

00:46:04.140 Some people are coming out and saying that this cordon sanitaire not only hasn't worked,

00:46:09.440 it's actually made the AFD more popular with people.

00:46:12.800 What is the current state of play there?

00:46:16.720 Well, I would say there are different levels of issues you can start off with.

00:46:24.280 So first of all, of course, everyone basically publicly is saying,

00:46:29.180 well, we will stick to the firewall, the cordon sanitaire, it will never be given up.

00:46:34.100 But we know this on the regional level, on the local level, already is not functioning,

00:46:41.520 is already something else underway.

00:46:45.060 So on some local and some regional levels, we work together,

00:46:49.020 and at least we vote together, and we have an impact on policy.

00:46:54.160 On federal level, that's not yet the case.

00:46:56.780 But even here, they start to understand that it's impossible to block 25%, 27% of the voters out of policy.

00:47:09.780 And technically, it starts getting very difficult for them to form a government.

00:47:15.180 So the chancellor's party and the social democrats, usually when they formed a government,

00:47:22.500 it was called the grand coalition.

00:47:24.560 They had something like, you know, 50% or 60% altogether.

00:47:28.620 Now, it does not even, they do not even reach 50%.

00:47:33.460 So even the two biggest, former biggest party, they do not manage to form a government

00:47:38.120 because they are not reaching 50% of the members of parliament after an election.

00:47:43.300 That would be the case if we would have an election right now. 0.86

00:47:46.160 And so they start to understand that they might need us or the far left to form a government.

00:47:54.560 And so they are stuck behind the firewall.

00:47:58.100 And basically, the firewall is protecting the far left and the left and the social democrats to stay in power

00:48:05.260 because without the firewall, there would be a good majority with the Christian Democrats and the AFD

00:48:10.820 and then to have a center-right government.

00:48:13.280 So the firewall protects the lefties from losing the power

00:48:16.540 because they basically have lost the power within the electorate.

00:48:20.480 So people don't, they are just tired of left policy because it doesn't work.

00:48:27.120 We've only, you see, this is how quickly time flies.

00:48:29.520 We only have three minutes now.

00:48:31.680 But I do want to ask you about your recent statement that you thought that this government

00:48:36.780 is going to last until 2029.

00:48:42.180 You said you think it's going to collapse this year, in 2026.

00:48:46.840 Just tell me, how is, how has Friedrich Metz become so unpopular so quickly?

00:48:55.160 I would say he has been unpopular from the very beginning.

00:48:59.100 But he was campaigning on issues like inner security, we'll save the borders,

00:49:05.200 we will deport all those illegal aliens who are in Germany, 1.00

00:49:11.600 and we will be very tough also on bureaucracy and on criminals and everything.

00:49:17.180 And then he went into government with the Social Democrats, so with the lefty party,

00:49:21.800 and he couldn't deliver anything of it, anything at all, when it comes to economy, even less.

00:49:29.200 And so people are frustrated.

00:49:31.680 So some were still voting for CDU.

00:49:34.460 They were wishing that something would get better, but it got worse.

00:49:39.040 And even some from the Social Democrats are disappointed

00:49:42.420 because they realize that what they are presenting as a solution is not a solution.

00:49:48.800 It makes every problem even worse.

00:49:51.560 And so they just start to realize that it's not functioning.

00:49:57.080 Our industry is dropping.

00:50:00.580 It's not slightly going down.

00:50:02.740 It's dropping.

00:50:03.480 And this has been said by the head of the German industry chamber.

00:50:08.400 So it's really a very dangerous situation we are in.

00:50:12.220 And they have no solution to come up with.

00:50:16.420 And this is the reason why AFD now is the strongest in several polls in overall of Germany,

00:50:22.580 and by far the number one in the east of Germany, by 40%.

00:50:26.720 Could you just give me 30 seconds on how Friedrich Merz's plan to reintroduce conscription

00:50:36.440 is going down with German youth right now in order to fight Vladimir Putin and defend Zelensky?

00:50:45.780 How is that going down right now?

00:50:47.120 Well, people start to understand that it's ridiculous to try to save the world,

00:50:52.680 to try to save Ukraine and build up Gaza and save the climate and whatsoever. 0.88

00:50:59.620 While economy is declining, so we don't have money to even equip our army properly,

00:51:07.220 people start to understand that going into debt for the rest of the world doesn't serve our people.

00:51:15.280 And this is, again, another reason why I think this government is, you know, fading away.

00:51:24.480 On the way out.

00:51:25.640 Folks, you just heard it from Beatrix von Storff, deputy leader of the AFD in eastern Germany.

00:51:32.700 The AFD is now polling at 40%.

00:51:34.940 I think Margaret Thatcher formed her third government in the UK on about 43%.

00:51:40.420 These are huge statistics to be aiming for in a proportional representation system.

00:51:47.600 Very quickly, Beatrix, where do people go on social media to keep up with your work

00:51:51.740 and to support what you're doing?

00:51:54.380 On any platform and just search for Beatrix von Storff.

00:51:58.020 There you will find me.

00:52:00.220 Great. There you go.

00:52:01.100 You can see the Twitter account there.

00:52:03.180 And that's all we have time for.

00:52:04.880 I hope you'll come back at some point.

00:52:06.380 Beatrix, give us an update.

00:52:08.240 World War will be back at 10 o'clock tomorrow. 0.59

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00:52:16.240 And, of course, our producer, Cameron Wallace,

00:52:18.720 and Victorio Santifranco, who worked tirelessly this week to put this show together.

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WarRoom Battleground EP 933： Biden Is The Cause Of ICE Agents On American Streets And The AfD Is Now On 40% In Eastern Germany

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