Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 948： Isabel Vaughan-Spruce In Court For Illegally Praying In Public And Apocalypse Director Simón Delacre

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.540 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:17.140 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.900 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.480 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:32.300 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:40.240 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:54.480 good evening ben harold here at the helm on steve bannon's war room 13th of february and no domini

00:01:01.580 2000 and 26 but a great show for you today um and someone i've actually had my eye on for a number

00:01:08.520 of years we're very honored that she's come on to the show today a great witness i think to the uh to

00:01:15.100 the inviolable inviolable principle that god comes first and that's isabel vaughn spruce now you'll

00:01:22.220 recognize isabel i'm sure from the photos that you've seen on the internet as from the pro-life

00:01:28.860 perspective isabel what has been repeatedly arrested um in the uk for this for the thought

00:01:36.340 crime of simply presuming to pray outside of an abortion mill um and just this week thanks to a

00:01:45.820 recent change in the law is isabel has been arrested yet again and i just want to read to you

00:01:51.940 what isabel said um at the birmingham magistrates court last thursday she said i've simply stood

00:02:00.540 inside an abortion buffer zone on a public street and silently prayed meaning my thoughts were turned

00:02:08.100 towards god well you're going to say to me i know you're going to say well how is that a crime well

00:02:13.760 because in the uk the government has through successive legislation actually made that illegal

00:02:20.300 right and you'll have seen the uh these articles in the press because it is absolutely horrific

00:02:26.480 it's the sort of thing that jd vance has spoken repeatedly against as the increasing totalitarian

00:02:34.500 attitude throughout um uh the uk and continental europe isabel welcome on to the show very honored

00:02:44.040 as i say uh to have you here uh this evening just why don't you in your own words tell us exactly what

00:02:51.460 happened this time around and then uh reference that what has happened to you i think you were first

00:02:56.680 arrested in 2023 if i'm not mistaken tell us what happened this time around and then um how that

00:03:02.960 follows on what has been the state persecuting you over over the last few years

00:03:08.720 yeah so obviously there's only a limit to what i can say about this situation because it is still

00:03:14.820 current and i'm waiting to go to trial um just to be clear i wasn't arrested this time i have been

00:03:20.060 charged but not arrested so i've been arrested twice in the past but this time um i was just sent

00:03:24.560 the charge um and obviously i'm charged with with with breaching the the national um buffer zone

00:03:31.420 around the abortion center and and i was standing silently as you've said near the abortion center

00:03:37.720 just praying in my head not interacting with anyone not attempting to interact with anyone no

00:03:42.180 posters no leaflets just simply standing and silently praying and and um that's what i'm going to have

00:03:48.100 to go to court for and and face trial over um i was first arrested back in 2022 that was when i was

00:03:56.180 charged with breaching um a local buffer zone so it's a little bit complicated there's two different

00:04:01.280 laws that are um operating here the first one that i was accused of breaching um was was a kind of

00:04:08.420 local ordinance called a pspo which is a public space protection order that's when the local police

00:04:14.420 and the local council work together um and they create like a a buffer zone around the abortion center

00:04:19.940 where certain um behavior is prohibited like like protesting and forms of protest um connected to

00:04:26.360 abortion might be prohibited um obviously i wasn't protesting i actually never protest outside abortion

00:04:31.840 centers i was just silently praying in that area and i was arrested and i went to court in 2023 and

00:04:39.200 was completely acquitted um a few weeks later i went and stood on exactly the same spot and did

00:04:45.060 if you can say did exactly the same thing i was just thinking in my head while standing there

00:04:49.780 um i was rearrested by six police officers um who took me away in a police van they told me that

00:04:56.460 um my prayers were an offense and again i was charged but that charge was dropped after six months

00:05:03.080 but even after that police continued to come out gave me tickets told me i was going to be fined

00:05:08.640 and eventually i made a claim against the police for for wrongful arrest um and false imprisonment

00:05:14.640 and i was awarded an out of court settlement but now that we have um national buffer zones which came

00:05:21.400 in on october the 31st 2024 um that's what i've actually been charged with breaching that then

00:05:27.520 the national buffer zone so around every abortion center in the country now there is 150 meter radius

00:05:34.640 um where certain actions are prohibited but i should be clear it's still a public street members of the

00:05:40.840 public are there um often these streets residential streets where people live in um so you know

00:05:46.720 people are allowed in these zones it's not like some sort of um you know area where only you know

00:05:51.980 that's private property it's still a public street and the public is still allowed on them

00:05:55.680 and i believe as a member of the public um just because i'm i'm a christian or a catholic or

00:06:00.760 whole pro-life beliefs that i should still be allowed inside this zone um so i'm awaiting to go

00:06:06.800 to charlotte at the moment um i noticed at the magistrates court you did say that you were simply

00:06:13.660 praying to yourself in interior and dialogue with god um what would have happened and that's very

00:06:21.160 that's very much taking a position on the one hand um that is exactly what the law would appear

00:06:28.040 to prohibit but on the other hand as your lawyer has cited that would go pretty cleanly against

00:06:34.020 the european convention on human rights and the freedom of religion freedom to express religion

00:06:40.020 that's going to be an interesting challenge um but can i ask you why did you say at the magistrates

00:06:46.880 court um that you were praying why did you simply say you're just standing there thinking to yourself

00:06:55.240 because i wasn't just thinking to myself i my heart was turned towards god which is what i believe

00:07:01.960 you know prayer is um and i don't believe that's something that i should have to try and conceal

00:07:06.700 um the police asked me what i was doing when they came to um speak to me outside the abortion center

00:07:12.140 and i i told them that i was um interiorly praying nothing out loud nothing that you know

00:07:18.380 was was um manifest to anyone else um but yeah i don't feel i should have to keep that a secret if i'm asked

00:07:26.060 quite right um quite you know when i said at the beginning that you're a heroic witness and that's

00:07:34.660 exactly the attitude um because you could have said i was just standing i was thinking about directions

00:07:39.920 um of where i wanted to walk um but telling them i suppose i should just say at times maybe i was you

00:07:47.940 know a lot of us when we pray we don't you know manage to keep our thoughts directly on god the whole

00:07:53.380 time sometimes i got distracted and might have thought about sandwiches you know um but it

00:07:58.660 wouldn't have made any difference to my outward appearance nobody walking past would know the

00:08:02.700 difference um are you going to keep on doing this i can't really comment on anything like that at the

00:08:10.960 moment as i say i do have to be careful because i'm going to trial um so obviously talking about what

00:08:16.720 i'm doing at the moment might not be you know a helpful thing to do so um yeah i'll probably i'll

00:08:22.860 probably have to wait till we you know we go to court and say more there um i've just been through

00:08:28.400 a number of court cases i've got one right at the moment here and it's a i understand entirely when

00:08:33.060 the press ask questions sometimes you just have to say this is subjudicia i i can't answer it um for

00:08:39.380 prudential reasons and also out of respect for the court i will continue to ask the questions to you

00:08:44.240 isabel by all means absolutely say you know what i'll pass on that come back and ask me when this

00:08:50.200 particular trial is is is through that's entirely legitimate of you to say that um what what's the

00:08:55.900 reaction been in the uk to this because you are if i'm not mistaken you are the first person now

00:09:02.040 to be charged under the the new legislation so under the under the national buffer zones um i'm the first

00:09:10.780 person to be charged with silently praying um but under the as you as you i'm sure you're aware

00:09:17.600 under the pspos we have adam smith connor who has actually been criminalized now simply for silently

00:09:23.480 praying um near an abortion center he was praying for his deceased son um who who was aborted and um he

00:09:32.340 was actually um convicted in court that was under the the local buffer zones um as well as livia

00:09:39.240 to seachie bolt who was just holding a sign that said here to talk if you want inside the buffer zone

00:09:44.240 and she was also convicted and that again that was under the local buffer zone so we've already seen

00:09:49.220 that happen um we've got rose doherty up in scotland um who again like myself is awaiting trial 0.99

00:09:56.200 um rose was holding a poster in in a buffer zone in scotland that said coercion is a crime here to talk

00:10:02.600 only if you want and she's having to go to court to to defend that um so yeah we're seeing um a lot

00:10:09.980 of um a lot of christians um you know being being taken to court um whether it's to do with their

00:10:16.580 prayers or simply for offering to have a consensual conversation with people who might want to speak

00:10:22.260 to them um tell me one thing before we go to a quick shout out to one of our show's sponsors in

00:10:31.600 two minutes time tell me what the reaction has been like from the catholic hierarchy that is to say

00:10:37.020 for our largely evangelical audience the catholic bishops um in in the uk how supportive have they

00:10:43.560 been yeah i have to say so i organize um something called 40 days for life which a lot of people might

00:10:49.760 be familiar with in birmingham um so that's 40 days of of um prayer obviously at the moment it's

00:10:55.800 just outside the buffer zone um we have a lot of priests who participate in that um and you know

00:11:01.500 have been really really supportive and helpful towards myself so we have a rota of priests so

00:11:06.420 that one priest goes every single day um to pray as part of the 40 days for life so we feel really

00:11:12.820 blessed here um and um as well i you know i have had bishops who've been very supportive towards me so

00:11:19.420 um i do feel that um actually i've had a lot of support from the church um and interestingly from

00:11:27.160 people of very different beliefs as well um so i've had a lot of people contacting me saying things

00:11:32.900 like i don't share your beliefs but i think you should be able to pray or you know i'm i'm i well

00:11:38.640 they would describe themselves as being pro-choice that's not a term i would use but they they would

00:11:42.480 call themselves pro-choice but say i still think that you should be able to you know silently pray

00:11:47.600 on any public street you want so it's interesting to see how how united actually people are in

00:11:53.480 recognizing that this is really an infringement on freedoms um and you know is is really serious

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00:14:31.580 tell me something about the reaction which you're just mentioning you said that the the the your

00:14:37.040 catholic bishop the catholic priests have been relatively supportive i'd like to know whether

00:14:43.000 any bishops themselves have come out and made a public um affirmation of support to the stand that

00:14:52.360 you're taking and i'd also like to hear something a bit about uh what you were saying that even people

00:14:58.780 who don't agree with you on the pro-life agenda uh and to use the term would identify themselves as

00:15:06.260 pro-choice that is a pro-abortion they even people in that camp will come out and say they actually think

00:15:14.020 um that the government is overstepping uh that they're bound in a civil tolerant society by um arresting

00:15:22.220 you repeatedly and charging you for the simple thought crime of standing in a public street

00:15:28.060 and praying tell me first about the bishop about the bishops because i do criticize on this show

00:15:33.280 the the bishops not only in the uk but in the united states quite a bit have they have they reached out

00:15:39.100 to you in private and have they made any affirmation of support publicly yes obviously anything private i

00:15:46.520 would think that's probably best that i keep private unless they've asked to be made public but the

00:15:50.960 the bishops of scotland for instance they've made a public statement a unified public statement about

00:15:55.480 buffer zones which can be found online um which i felt was a really good strong statement um and i know

00:16:02.320 as i say bishops in in england and wales who've been who've been very supportive um whether people

00:16:07.380 have mentioned my name exactly but i think a lot of them um have have really recognized the concerns

00:16:12.440 there are about buffer zones um and and you know the the infringement on freedoms so um yeah i i do think

00:16:20.560 on this issue that they are they are awake and they are concerned and i do feel like i've been supported

00:16:26.300 by the church on this issue super but i mean with regards to what you were just sorry carry on

00:16:31.920 no no please please i didn't mean to interrupt you

00:16:34.480 no i was only going to just carry on to to mention what you were just saying about you know

00:16:39.580 support from people who've maybe had um got different beliefs um and that's not just here

00:16:46.220 in england i've i've been really kind of overwhelmed by people um in in other countries who've got in

00:16:51.320 contact um and you know like i say made a point of saying well they don't share my beliefs they

00:16:56.920 they they do share my concerns and i and i think they're quite right to be concerned um because you

00:17:03.560 know if if christians are being discriminated now or you know or pro-lifers are being discriminated

00:17:08.420 against at the moment it could be anyone who falls foul of the the popular ideology in the

00:17:13.500 country um and i think you know if we if we don't stand against it um right from the start

00:17:19.480 then and i i think it you know it's certainly looking like it could get a lot worse

00:17:24.480 tell me um about your personal formation what is there in your background that has given you the

00:17:31.180 courage to publicly stand up um and have the the spiritual strength to challenge the system when so

00:17:41.160 many of our fellow catholics um they might agree with you in principle they might even agree uh in

00:17:49.080 the idea that that you know it's ridiculous and one should be able to pray outside an abortion clinic 0.82

00:17:54.060 but haven't actually made that step to do so how is it that you have found yourself in this position

00:18:00.760 of as we say since they introduced the national buffer zones of being the first person to be charged

00:18:07.960 under the present legislation but also having having repeatedly pushed up on the local council level

00:18:14.460 what is it in your background that has has given you this um in terms of formation that has given you

00:18:20.960 the strength to just make this position yeah firstly i wouldn't want it to look like i was

00:18:27.520 speaking against other catholics who are maybe doing different things i know some really good

00:18:31.100 strong catholics and and who've been very very supportive to me but you know just speaking purely

00:18:35.600 about myself and my own formation i i was brought up as a catholic um my dad's been dead for many years

00:18:41.840 now but i you know i would like to credit him with helping to form me um and i you know as a catholic i

00:18:47.660 believe he's still helping me from from from up there um so yeah i had a really strong catholic father

00:18:53.560 um which you know was a great guidance for me um as a um a child i know we had quite a big house that

00:19:01.460 was up on the hills we lived and um there was a local psychiatric hospital where it was it was more

00:19:07.020 of a community where where adults with severe psychiatric problems lived and it closed down and a lot of

00:19:12.660 these people were sent to live out in the community and of course they couldn't you know because they'd

00:19:16.960 never lived in you know out in society you know they'd always lived in this enclosed community and

00:19:21.800 so my dad opened our home um there were six of us children but he opened our home to many of these

00:19:26.360 people with severe mental health problems you know bipolar or schizophrenia and things um we were taught

00:19:32.420 to call them the guests some of them lived with us for for weeks some for years um and i think it

00:19:37.560 really taught me to to value individuals for for who they are rather than for you know what they can

00:19:43.520 achieve or for you know their academic success um and i i think that was a real um huge help in my

00:19:50.800 upbringing and i i hope that's kind of extended into my my view of what pro-life really is to to really

00:19:56.980 value each and every person for for who they are no matter what they they may or may not achieve in

00:20:02.700 life just that value of being created in the image and likeness of god

00:20:05.760 um and of course that begins at conception did you ever think when you were younger that you would

00:20:11.940 you would one day end up taking such a public position uh against the the british state on this

00:20:19.440 kind of issue or did you sort of find yourself simply refusing to yield and refusing to bend uh and

00:20:27.260 and from the formation that you developed the faith that you that you had as a child growing up that

00:20:32.780 sort of kicked in and and gave you the the strength so you actually know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna

00:20:37.060 obey this i'm not gonna do that i'm gonna take a stand because it's the right thing to do without

00:20:41.980 actually seeking without deliberately saying stuff i'm gonna make make it i'm gonna i'm gonna find this

00:20:48.560 issue and and and um and take a public stand do you get what i'm saying here there are two ways

00:20:55.460 did you say that you had did you have the vocation did you feel when you were younger that you're the

00:21:00.480 sort of person who had a vocation to come and challenge the state on this kind of issue or did

00:21:05.900 it just sort of find you that the issue and from inside you had the strength just to say no i'm not

00:21:11.760 putting up on with this i guess first i would say i i'm not sure i'd describe myself as as publicly

00:21:18.160 challenging the state i i just believe that that you know i should be allowed to silently pray and i

00:21:23.660 believe legally i am allowed to do that um you know from from when i was younger my faith has always

00:21:30.160 been of you know very much importance to me and i think my relationship was god with god has grown

00:21:35.920 um i believe that is something that isn't just um something that affects you know certain aspects

00:21:42.680 of my life or my private life my my faith is everything to me i have a kind of um a motto if you

00:21:49.080 if you like that that you know view every moment in light of eternity and and i think that kind of

00:21:53.840 helps to guide my decisions that if i if i think you know how will this decision look when i one day

00:21:59.060 face to face with god you know over that that table of you know on judgment day what will the decisions

00:22:05.500 i make look like then and i think that helps to kind of make me see the bigger picture of what's

00:22:09.920 really important um obviously like everyone else i'm not saying i always get it right but i think

00:22:14.580 that's how i try and view things um you know particularly maybe more critical decisions in

00:22:19.080 my life um and um certainly that helps maybe guide me on on on the pro-life issue and and issues maybe

00:22:25.720 that you know might be considered to be slightly more more challenging in today's society

00:22:29.620 you just said something really quite profound um and if you could because we're running up now to

00:22:37.400 the rate to the close of the show i would really like to ask you what you meant by that and whether

00:22:42.020 that's a teaching moment you said that you found yours that that your faith has been deepened

00:22:48.200 throughout the process of you showing um you're i mean i would say that you're you're showing witness

00:22:55.200 to the kingdom of jesus christ uh the superior superiority of the kingdom of christ over the over the

00:23:02.160 over the the laws of men um but what did you tell me just if you want to give me a minute or two

00:23:08.480 about your that sensation of growing in faith growing in intimacy with christ because you have

00:23:15.680 taken this this position yeah again just making it clear when i'm on the streets i'm not necessarily

00:23:21.680 making a public witness this is something i'm just privately thinking and my thoughts are turned

00:23:26.100 towards god um but um yeah i think i think in a way you know and many people before me have said

00:23:33.040 that haven't they that that you know with with your faith you can't stay stagnant you're either going

00:23:37.500 backwards or you're going forwards and i think there's always that that push to go forwards in

00:23:42.060 your faith and a lot of the um challenges and obstacles that come kind of help you recognize

00:23:48.020 that that you've got to keep pushing forward and they're always challenging you to get deeper and

00:23:51.920 deeper and of course that means sometimes that you might lose certain things in your life whether

00:23:57.540 you know whatever that might be whether that's you know financially or acquaintances or prospects or

00:24:03.480 whatever it might be for people but then you always gain so much more um and and that deepening of

00:24:09.740 that relationship with god for those who kind of experience that they'll know that that there's

00:24:14.580 nothing that compares with that when you um and in a way the more that you abandon yourself to god

00:24:20.160 the more beautiful that that really does become because you know in a way then you feel you well you

00:24:27.560 don't just feel you know that there's a certain um detachment from other things and that is that is a

00:24:33.100 real sense of freedom you know and i guess this is what this this whole thing is all about is about

00:24:38.620 freedom the freedom you know to be able to in my case silently pray um and i think that freedom

00:24:46.080 is really rooted in in that abandonment to god um isabel i can only say what i said at the beginning

00:24:55.620 of the show it's a real honor to have you on the show you probably don't think that you're offering

00:25:00.300 heroic witness um um but i think it's very fair for other people to say that about you if that's what

00:25:06.760 they think and i absolutely do think that uh in the in the closing minute and a half um do you want

00:25:12.300 to say a few words about the march for life or 40 days for life um or even the adf that's that's

00:25:18.960 represented that's providing the legal representation for you um on on these issues

00:25:24.940 how can people get involved basically how can how can they support you thank you yeah i mean i'm very

00:25:31.420 grateful to adf who who've you know in alliance defending freedom who've been very supportive to me

00:25:35.880 throughout um so yeah i i i'm one of the directors at march for life uk um amongst many other things

00:25:42.100 that we do throughout the year we have an annual march which is on the 5th of september in london

00:25:46.480 um you know we have people coming from actually all over the world now to come and join and we'd

00:25:51.680 love people to get involved in that so please do get in touch we have a pro-life summit in the morning

00:25:56.560 and then we have a big um you know procession through um through the streets of london and end

00:26:01.360 at parliament square so um that's a fantastic initiative to get involved in and um really encourage

00:26:06.520 people to come and join us and and many people throughout the world will know about 40 days for life

00:26:10.980 obviously this is something that started in america but a lot of countries have you know adapted

00:26:15.160 it to suit their own cultures and and i believe that in in the uk it's adapted to suit our own

00:26:20.080 culture here um starting next week on ash wednesday and continuing for 40 days we'll be praying near the

00:26:26.520 abortion center um and for those of you you know who who maybe haven't ever done that before again i

00:26:32.000 just really encourage you to get involved go on to the 40 days for life website and find the nearest

00:26:36.180 place to you um where you can just go along and pray there um obviously we go for other people

00:26:42.560 but it really transforms ourselves and i can certainly say that for me it's it's really helped

00:26:47.340 to transform me um but by doing that it's a bill born spruce very very deeply honored and touched

00:26:54.660 that you came onto the show today please come back uh and keep let us know how it's going for you

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00:35:04.980 going around. Not only that, but also the great confusion within the church, within Christianity,

00:35:13.480 the great apostasy, I believe it's happening right now. And that makes people think,

00:35:20.460 what's going on? Why so much chaos in life? And people that turn to prophecies every time

00:35:27.820 they hit a crisis like this. And I thought it was very important to put out the good prophecy,

00:35:33.620 the main prophecy in the Bible, that is Revelation, and show it as it is in the Bible,

00:35:40.720 described in the Bible, and also accompany it by an interpretation, because Revelation is

00:35:47.540 written mostly in symbols. It's very symbolic. When I first read it, I found it very confusing,

00:35:54.560 and that's when I started studying what it meant through great scholars and interpreters,

00:36:00.200 mainly Catholic ones. That's what I studied since I'm a Catholic. All of them deeply rooted in the

00:36:07.960 fathers of the church, in the early fathers of the church. And the idea was not only to show the

00:36:14.420 visions of Revelation as they are, but also try to explain them, because if not, many times people

00:36:21.880 only stay with the idea of fear, and they think it's a scary book. But if you see it with the right lens,

00:36:29.800 you see that Revelation is actually a prophecy of the triumph of good over evil, of the second coming

00:36:37.280 of Christ. And it just gives to all these crises we are living today, a new perspective. It gives it a

00:36:45.080 perspective of hope. That's the main goal of the movie, and my main goal doing this film. Why now?

00:36:53.000 I've been studying it for about 15 years. The movie started to be produced five years ago. And why now?

00:37:01.160 I think it's just Providence. It's already released in more than 20 countries across America with great

00:37:06.940 success. And why in America? It's just a matter of Providence.

00:37:10.660 So, there is an eschatological dimension, then, to you making this film at this moment in time.

00:37:24.260 Yes, absolutely. As I was saying, this crisis is, when you start studying the book of Revelation and all

00:37:31.460 the prophecies, you find out that we are actually living the end times. How long the end times are going

00:37:38.900 to be? We don't know. Just Christ himself says that we cannot know the day or the hour. But he also

00:37:46.740 says that we should be looking to the signs to know when the time is soon, when the time is near.

00:37:53.540 And that's what the movie does. The movie takes the signs, tries to analyze them and explain them,

00:37:59.620 and contrast it with real life, actual life facts from our time, and try to discern if we are, in fact,

00:38:09.380 living the end times.

00:38:12.580 That's quite an unusual way of seeing this, because there's definitely an apostasy taking place in the

00:38:18.740 Catholic Church right now. That, I think, is undeniable. It has been for quite a few decades.

00:38:24.660 And most people find the reality of looking at that apostasy, it harms their faith. It makes 0.89

00:38:36.420 belief more difficult when they're looking at an apostasy that's taking place right around them.

00:38:42.100 That's not the case, then, with you. You're seeing the apostasy, and you're actually finding

00:38:46.260 that your faith is growing as you see that. Is that correct?

00:38:50.260 Yeah, that's correct. And that is an excellent point. And that's one of the things that led me

00:38:57.620 to study Revelation. I saw the Church, the Catholic Church, being infiltrated by modernism,

00:39:03.700 by Freemasons. And how can this be possible? But when you go and study the prophecies, 0.65

00:39:09.620 and you see that all this was foretold, and not only it was foretold, but it was foretold with so many

00:39:15.620 details. It was foretold by Jesus Christ in Matthew 24. It was foretold by the letters of St. Paul.

00:39:25.220 And it is foretold in Revelation. You have the false prophet, and you have all these signs that start to

00:39:33.460 make sense on our reality that if you don't have the Bible, you don't have Revelation to turn to,

00:39:44.980 it really just generates confusion and desperation. So knowing the signs gives you this perspective I

00:39:52.500 was talking about. The second coming of Christ is close, and that for believers is a matter of comfort

00:40:00.740 and hope and happiness in the midst of all this crisis.

00:40:07.380 Simone, stay with me for two minutes. I'm just going to give a quick shout out to our show's 1.00

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00:42:30.020 Simone, is that then one of the reasons why you actually made the film? Because as a means of

00:42:37.780 encouraging the brethren, so that when they see this apostasy taking place, instead of becoming

00:42:43.780 despondent, instead of becoming disillusioned, they actually think, hang on, this is all foretold.

00:42:49.620 Instead of their faith becoming under threat, it's actually strengthened. That's the case for you

00:42:55.460 in your studies of the book of Revelation, and that's what you're trying to pass on to other

00:43:02.900 people. Is that correct? That's correct. Absolutely. The harder things get, also that makes people rise

00:43:14.260 and work harder. Sanctity is stronger when things are more difficult. If everything was easy,

00:43:23.780 nothing is demanded from us. Where's the merit, right? So in this time of huge crisis, when one

00:43:33.540 stands out and tries to be saint in the middle of all this apostasy, that gives a lot of merit,

00:43:41.140 and that is part of God's plan. So starting Revelation, you see that all this chaos is not

00:43:46.340 really chaos. It's part of our plan, that God is God of history, and that everything is leading up

00:43:54.740 to the second coming, to the final victory. So that way, you getting encouraged. I, for example, my mother

00:44:02.660 was a pro-life activist here in Argentina, all for life, and she always took us to the marches for life

00:44:10.180 and everything here. And everything seems so backwards because we got defeat after defeat

00:44:18.340 in the fight for life. And that is really discouraging. But when you see that all this, all this apostasy, 0.53

00:44:27.220 not only of the church, but also of the nations, if you think that Argentina and most nations in Europe

00:44:33.300 were Christian, and today Christianity is being withdrawn from societies in all those nations, 0.98

00:44:40.900 those nations became apostatates also. And that's a sign of the close triumph of good over evil.

00:44:52.420 So that gives you hope and invites you to fight stronger, even though it may seem you are losing.

00:44:59.700 One of the interesting dynamics about this show, about the war room, is that pretty much all of the

00:45:07.780 Catholics involved in it, Steve Bannon, myself, Jack Posobiec, we're all traditional Catholics.

00:45:16.580 And yet, a huge proportion of the audience, the war room audience, are Bible-believing evangelicals.

00:45:26.980 And it's interesting to see the synthesis that's taking place right now between traditional Catholicism

00:45:33.700 and conservative, biblically-based evangelicalism. Tell me something about the film that you've made.

00:45:42.740 You say that your formation is Catholic, and that's where you went to, to the church fathers,

00:45:48.820 as the source of inspiration for the film. But tell me something about how evangelicals 0.99

00:45:54.980 will react to this film, and why they might be interested to come and see it.

00:46:02.580 Well, I think that Revelation has been for a long time in the hands of evangelicals.

00:46:09.700 For some reason, the church neglected preaching the Second Coming last centuries. I don't know why that is,

00:46:18.740 probably because of the apostasy. But evangelicals, they never cease to preach the Second Coming.

00:46:26.180 They know and they understand that the Second Coming is closed. I think it's core in their preaching.

00:46:33.780 And they'll find that this movie is all about that. It's trying to make inside the Catholic Church what they have been doing for years. 0.56

00:46:43.060 Just preach the Second Coming and announce it to everyone who wants to hear about it. 0.90

00:46:49.060 Just finally, with regards to America right now, there is somewhat of a revival that's taking place,

00:47:00.340 not just in America. We're seeing it in the UK as well. And on our Wednesday show, we're pointing out

00:47:06.020 across continental Europe signs of this. There seems to be a double movement taking place,

00:47:11.780 specifically within the Catholic Church, but not exclusively. Huge numbers of people are peeling away

00:47:18.260 from the church, in huge numbers. It's like a ratio of perhaps one to a hundred, one to a thousand,

00:47:25.380 because for every thousand people, every thousand persons who are leaving, one person is coming in.

00:47:32.500 But I want to say something about that one person who's coming in, because this is really very interesting.

00:47:37.620 And that's what I mean when I say there's a double movement going on. The guys, a lot of young men,

00:47:43.060 a lot of 20-year-old men, and not just in the Catholic Church, also in the evangelical communities

00:47:47.860 as well, are coming to the church for the first time. Now, they're looking at Christianity for the 0.92

00:47:54.740 first time. Part of this is to do with social media and what's been happening over recent years.

00:48:01.540 Part of it's to do with the Trump resurgency and the Trump presidency. Part of it's to do with the

00:48:08.100 brutal assassination and public martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. But these trends are coming together,

00:48:14.980 and there is a revival taking place. How do you think, just because we're coming up to the end of

00:48:20.180 the show in a couple of moments, just tell me how, and I'm sure you've noticed this revival

00:48:25.700 taking place as well. Again, it's young 20-year-old guys, generation Z. And these people are on fire

00:48:33.220 with the faith. They are absolutely superb. These are the kids that will have, say, sort of crusader

00:48:38.420 icons on their social media avatars. Tell me what they can sort of draw out from your film as they make

00:48:47.140 their journey towards ever deeper faith with Jesus Christ. Well, the movie tries to transmit

00:48:55.860 the message through the study of the prophecies. The message that God will not ask us account of our

00:49:05.700 victories, but he will ask us account of our scars. So, it's an invitation to fight the good fight. I think they

00:49:15.300 find it very encouraging, this movie, to that mean, to fight the good fight. And also, they will learn

00:49:23.540 a lot about the history of Christianity from the first coming to the second coming, since the movie

00:49:32.900 delves with the prophecy that is more historical, that leads, that is, in the words of Saint Augustine,

00:49:40.580 such that the prophecy of Revelation embraces all the time from the first coming of Christ to the

00:49:47.300 second coming. And this movie will help them see in that timeline, from the first coming to the second

00:49:53.460 coming, where we are standing. And since we are in the war room, one of the main aspects of war is

00:50:01.940 knowing where you're standing in the face of your enemy, to be able to give the battle. So, that's what the

00:50:09.300 movie provides. It gives you a perspective of where we are standing now, related to the history of

00:50:17.700 salvation, and also invites you to fight and prepare for the, one invites one to prepare the kingdom of

00:50:26.820 God, and be waiting for the second coming, for the return of the King. So, Christ is King, and that's how we

00:50:34.500 should live, and that's how we should try to work to make our nations Christ-centered, recognizing that

00:50:44.340 Christ is King, and the King is returning.

00:50:46.740 That's absolutely superb. So, look, we've reached now, reached the end of the show, and that's how

00:50:54.500 quickly time flies. I said at the beginning that this is now across 800 theaters in America for these

00:51:03.860 few days. I think it's the 15th, 16th, and 17th. Where do people go to get more information about this?

00:51:12.580 Perhaps they might want to speak to their church leaders to book a whole church outing as a group

00:51:18.020 to come and see the film. Tell me what the points of reference are to get that block booking in to

00:51:25.300 come and see the film. Well, people can find information about theaters and get tickets in

00:51:32.820 apocalypserebuild.com or in phantomentertainment.com. And of course, yeah, invite everyone you can.

00:51:41.380 I think it's a great opportunity to have a topic of discussion among friends, among parishioners,

00:51:48.500 among family, and you will find it very interesting, very enlightening, and very entertaining,

00:51:55.700 because the visions of St. John in Revelation are very spectacular.

00:52:00.820 Simon Delacroix, just one more time, where was that website they need to go to?

00:52:09.940 Apocalypserebuild.com. There you can access all the information.

00:52:13.780 That's all we've got time for today. Thanks to my guests, Simon Delacroix and Isabel Vaughn-Spruce.

00:52:22.420 We'll be back at the same time next week. I want to thank, special thanks to Will and his crack

00:52:27.940 team at Real America's Voice in Denver, and of course, Vittorio Santifranco.

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Bannon's War Room - February 13, 2026

WarRoom Battleground EP 948： Isabel Vaughan-Spruce In Court For Illegally Praying In Public And Apocalypse Director Simón Delacre

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