WarRoom Battleground EP 948： Isabel Vaughan-Spruce In Court For Illegally Praying In Public And Apocalypse Director Simón Delacre
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Isabel Vaughn Spruce has been repeatedly arrested for praying outside abortion centers in the UK for the thought crime of simply presuming to pray outside an abortion centre. And just this week, thanks to a recent change in the law, isabel has been arrested yet again.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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good evening ben harold here at the helm on steve bannon's war room 13th of february and no domini
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2000 and 26 but a great show for you today um and someone i've actually had my eye on for a number
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of years we're very honored that she's come on to the show today a great witness i think to the uh to
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the inviolable inviolable principle that god comes first and that's isabel vaughn spruce now you'll
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recognize isabel i'm sure from the photos that you've seen on the internet as from the pro-life
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perspective isabel what has been repeatedly arrested um in the uk for this for the thought
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crime of simply presuming to pray outside of an abortion mill um and just this week thanks to a
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recent change in the law is isabel has been arrested yet again and i just want to read to you
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what isabel said um at the birmingham magistrates court last thursday she said i've simply stood
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inside an abortion buffer zone on a public street and silently prayed meaning my thoughts were turned
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towards god well you're going to say to me i know you're going to say well how is that a crime well
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because in the uk the government has through successive legislation actually made that illegal
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right and you'll have seen the uh these articles in the press because it is absolutely horrific
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it's the sort of thing that jd vance has spoken repeatedly against as the increasing totalitarian
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attitude throughout um uh the uk and continental europe isabel welcome on to the show very honored
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as i say uh to have you here uh this evening just why don't you in your own words tell us exactly what
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happened this time around and then uh reference that what has happened to you i think you were first
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arrested in 2023 if i'm not mistaken tell us what happened this time around and then um how that
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follows on what has been the state persecuting you over over the last few years
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yeah so obviously there's only a limit to what i can say about this situation because it is still
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current and i'm waiting to go to trial um just to be clear i wasn't arrested this time i have been
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charged but not arrested so i've been arrested twice in the past but this time um i was just sent
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the charge um and obviously i'm charged with with with breaching the the national um buffer zone
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around the abortion center and and i was standing silently as you've said near the abortion center
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just praying in my head not interacting with anyone not attempting to interact with anyone no
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posters no leaflets just simply standing and silently praying and and um that's what i'm going to have
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to go to court for and and face trial over um i was first arrested back in 2022 that was when i was
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charged with breaching um a local buffer zone so it's a little bit complicated there's two different
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laws that are um operating here the first one that i was accused of breaching um was was a kind of
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local ordinance called a pspo which is a public space protection order that's when the local police
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and the local council work together um and they create like a a buffer zone around the abortion center
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where certain um behavior is prohibited like like protesting and forms of protest um connected to
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abortion might be prohibited um obviously i wasn't protesting i actually never protest outside abortion
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centers i was just silently praying in that area and i was arrested and i went to court in 2023 and
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was completely acquitted um a few weeks later i went and stood on exactly the same spot and did
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if you can say did exactly the same thing i was just thinking in my head while standing there
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um i was rearrested by six police officers um who took me away in a police van they told me that
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um my prayers were an offense and again i was charged but that charge was dropped after six months
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but even after that police continued to come out gave me tickets told me i was going to be fined
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and eventually i made a claim against the police for for wrongful arrest um and false imprisonment
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and i was awarded an out of court settlement but now that we have um national buffer zones which came
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in on october the 31st 2024 um that's what i've actually been charged with breaching that then
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the national buffer zone so around every abortion center in the country now there is 150 meter radius
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um where certain actions are prohibited but i should be clear it's still a public street members of the
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public are there um often these streets residential streets where people live in um so you know
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people are allowed in these zones it's not like some sort of um you know area where only you know
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that's private property it's still a public street and the public is still allowed on them
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and i believe as a member of the public um just because i'm i'm a christian or a catholic or
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whole pro-life beliefs that i should still be allowed inside this zone um so i'm awaiting to go
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to charlotte at the moment um i noticed at the magistrates court you did say that you were simply
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praying to yourself in interior and dialogue with god um what would have happened and that's very
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that's very much taking a position on the one hand um that is exactly what the law would appear
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to prohibit but on the other hand as your lawyer has cited that would go pretty cleanly against
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the european convention on human rights and the freedom of religion freedom to express religion
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that's going to be an interesting challenge um but can i ask you why did you say at the magistrates
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court um that you were praying why did you simply say you're just standing there thinking to yourself
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because i wasn't just thinking to myself i my heart was turned towards god which is what i believe
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you know prayer is um and i don't believe that's something that i should have to try and conceal
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um the police asked me what i was doing when they came to um speak to me outside the abortion center
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and i i told them that i was um interiorly praying nothing out loud nothing that you know
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was was um manifest to anyone else um but yeah i don't feel i should have to keep that a secret if i'm asked
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quite right um quite you know when i said at the beginning that you're a heroic witness and that's
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exactly the attitude um because you could have said i was just standing i was thinking about directions
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um of where i wanted to walk um but telling them i suppose i should just say at times maybe i was you
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know a lot of us when we pray we don't you know manage to keep our thoughts directly on god the whole
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time sometimes i got distracted and might have thought about sandwiches you know um but it
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wouldn't have made any difference to my outward appearance nobody walking past would know the
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difference um are you going to keep on doing this i can't really comment on anything like that at the
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moment as i say i do have to be careful because i'm going to trial um so obviously talking about what
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i'm doing at the moment might not be you know a helpful thing to do so um yeah i'll probably i'll
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probably have to wait till we you know we go to court and say more there um i've just been through
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a number of court cases i've got one right at the moment here and it's a i understand entirely when
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the press ask questions sometimes you just have to say this is subjudicia i i can't answer it um for
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prudential reasons and also out of respect for the court i will continue to ask the questions to you
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isabel by all means absolutely say you know what i'll pass on that come back and ask me when this
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particular trial is is is through that's entirely legitimate of you to say that um what what's the
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reaction been in the uk to this because you are if i'm not mistaken you are the first person now
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to be charged under the the new legislation so under the under the national buffer zones um i'm the first
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person to be charged with silently praying um but under the as you as you i'm sure you're aware
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under the pspos we have adam smith connor who has actually been criminalized now simply for silently
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praying um near an abortion center he was praying for his deceased son um who who was aborted and um he
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was actually um convicted in court that was under the the local buffer zones um as well as livia
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to seachie bolt who was just holding a sign that said here to talk if you want inside the buffer zone
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and she was also convicted and that again that was under the local buffer zone so we've already seen
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that happen um we've got rose doherty up in scotland um who again like myself is awaiting trial
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um rose was holding a poster in in a buffer zone in scotland that said coercion is a crime here to talk
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only if you want and she's having to go to court to to defend that um so yeah we're seeing um a lot
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of um a lot of christians um you know being being taken to court um whether it's to do with their
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prayers or simply for offering to have a consensual conversation with people who might want to speak
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to them um tell me one thing before we go to a quick shout out to one of our show's sponsors in
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two minutes time tell me what the reaction has been like from the catholic hierarchy that is to say
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for our largely evangelical audience the catholic bishops um in in the uk how supportive have they
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been yeah i have to say so i organize um something called 40 days for life which a lot of people might
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be familiar with in birmingham um so that's 40 days of of um prayer obviously at the moment it's
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just outside the buffer zone um we have a lot of priests who participate in that um and you know
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have been really really supportive and helpful towards myself so we have a rota of priests so
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that one priest goes every single day um to pray as part of the 40 days for life so we feel really
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blessed here um and um as well i you know i have had bishops who've been very supportive towards me so
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um i do feel that um actually i've had a lot of support from the church um and interestingly from
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people of very different beliefs as well um so i've had a lot of people contacting me saying things
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like i don't share your beliefs but i think you should be able to pray or you know i'm i'm i well
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they would describe themselves as being pro-choice that's not a term i would use but they they would
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call themselves pro-choice but say i still think that you should be able to you know silently pray
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on any public street you want so it's interesting to see how how united actually people are in
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recognizing that this is really an infringement on freedoms um and you know is is really serious
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tell me something about the reaction which you're just mentioning you said that the the the your
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catholic bishop the catholic priests have been relatively supportive i'd like to know whether
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any bishops themselves have come out and made a public um affirmation of support to the stand that
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you're taking and i'd also like to hear something a bit about uh what you were saying that even people
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who don't agree with you on the pro-life agenda uh and to use the term would identify themselves as
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pro-choice that is a pro-abortion they even people in that camp will come out and say they actually think
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um that the government is overstepping uh that they're bound in a civil tolerant society by um arresting
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you repeatedly and charging you for the simple thought crime of standing in a public street
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and praying tell me first about the bishop about the bishops because i do criticize on this show
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the the bishops not only in the uk but in the united states quite a bit have they have they reached out
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to you in private and have they made any affirmation of support publicly yes obviously anything private i
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would think that's probably best that i keep private unless they've asked to be made public but the
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the bishops of scotland for instance they've made a public statement a unified public statement about
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buffer zones which can be found online um which i felt was a really good strong statement um and i know
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as i say bishops in in england and wales who've been who've been very supportive um whether people
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have mentioned my name exactly but i think a lot of them um have have really recognized the concerns
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there are about buffer zones um and and you know the the infringement on freedoms so um yeah i i do think
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on this issue that they are they are awake and they are concerned and i do feel like i've been supported
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by the church on this issue super but i mean with regards to what you were just sorry carry on
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no no please please i didn't mean to interrupt you
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no i was only going to just carry on to to mention what you were just saying about you know
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support from people who've maybe had um got different beliefs um and that's not just here
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in england i've i've been really kind of overwhelmed by people um in in other countries who've got in
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contact um and you know like i say made a point of saying well they don't share my beliefs they
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they they do share my concerns and i and i think they're quite right to be concerned um because you
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know if if christians are being discriminated now or you know or pro-lifers are being discriminated
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against at the moment it could be anyone who falls foul of the the popular ideology in the
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country um and i think you know if we if we don't stand against it um right from the start
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then and i i think it you know it's certainly looking like it could get a lot worse
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tell me um about your personal formation what is there in your background that has given you the
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courage to publicly stand up um and have the the spiritual strength to challenge the system when so
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many of our fellow catholics um they might agree with you in principle they might even agree uh in
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the idea that that you know it's ridiculous and one should be able to pray outside an abortion clinic
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but haven't actually made that step to do so how is it that you have found yourself in this position
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of as we say since they introduced the national buffer zones of being the first person to be charged
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under the present legislation but also having having repeatedly pushed up on the local council level
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what is it in your background that has has given you this um in terms of formation that has given you
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the strength to just make this position yeah firstly i wouldn't want it to look like i was
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speaking against other catholics who are maybe doing different things i know some really good
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strong catholics and and who've been very very supportive to me but you know just speaking purely
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about myself and my own formation i i was brought up as a catholic um my dad's been dead for many years
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now but i you know i would like to credit him with helping to form me um and i you know as a catholic i
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believe he's still helping me from from from up there um so yeah i had a really strong catholic father
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um which you know was a great guidance for me um as a um a child i know we had quite a big house that
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was up on the hills we lived and um there was a local psychiatric hospital where it was it was more
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of a community where where adults with severe psychiatric problems lived and it closed down and a lot of
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these people were sent to live out in the community and of course they couldn't you know because they'd
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never lived in you know out in society you know they'd always lived in this enclosed community and
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so my dad opened our home um there were six of us children but he opened our home to many of these
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people with severe mental health problems you know bipolar or schizophrenia and things um we were taught
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to call them the guests some of them lived with us for for weeks some for years um and i think it
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really taught me to to value individuals for for who they are rather than for you know what they can
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achieve or for you know their academic success um and i i think that was a real um huge help in my
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upbringing and i i hope that's kind of extended into my my view of what pro-life really is to to really
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value each and every person for for who they are no matter what they they may or may not achieve in
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life just that value of being created in the image and likeness of god
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um and of course that begins at conception did you ever think when you were younger that you would
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you would one day end up taking such a public position uh against the the british state on this
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kind of issue or did you sort of find yourself simply refusing to yield and refusing to bend uh and
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and from the formation that you developed the faith that you that you had as a child growing up that
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sort of kicked in and and gave you the the strength so you actually know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna
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obey this i'm not gonna do that i'm gonna take a stand because it's the right thing to do without
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actually seeking without deliberately saying stuff i'm gonna make make it i'm gonna i'm gonna find this
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issue and and and um and take a public stand do you get what i'm saying here there are two ways
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did you say that you had did you have the vocation did you feel when you were younger that you're the
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sort of person who had a vocation to come and challenge the state on this kind of issue or did
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it just sort of find you that the issue and from inside you had the strength just to say no i'm not
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putting up on with this i guess first i would say i i'm not sure i'd describe myself as as publicly
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challenging the state i i just believe that that you know i should be allowed to silently pray and i
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believe legally i am allowed to do that um you know from from when i was younger my faith has always
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been of you know very much importance to me and i think my relationship was god with god has grown
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um i believe that is something that isn't just um something that affects you know certain aspects
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of my life or my private life my my faith is everything to me i have a kind of um a motto if you
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if you like that that you know view every moment in light of eternity and and i think that kind of
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helps to guide my decisions that if i if i think you know how will this decision look when i one day
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face to face with god you know over that that table of you know on judgment day what will the decisions
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i make look like then and i think that helps to kind of make me see the bigger picture of what's
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really important um obviously like everyone else i'm not saying i always get it right but i think
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that's how i try and view things um you know particularly maybe more critical decisions in
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my life um and um certainly that helps maybe guide me on on on the pro-life issue and and issues maybe
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that you know might be considered to be slightly more more challenging in today's society
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you just said something really quite profound um and if you could because we're running up now to
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the rate to the close of the show i would really like to ask you what you meant by that and whether
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that's a teaching moment you said that you found yours that that your faith has been deepened
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throughout the process of you showing um you're i mean i would say that you're you're showing witness
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to the kingdom of jesus christ uh the superior superiority of the kingdom of christ over the over the
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over the the laws of men um but what did you tell me just if you want to give me a minute or two
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about your that sensation of growing in faith growing in intimacy with christ because you have
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taken this this position yeah again just making it clear when i'm on the streets i'm not necessarily
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making a public witness this is something i'm just privately thinking and my thoughts are turned
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towards god um but um yeah i think i think in a way you know and many people before me have said
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that haven't they that that you know with with your faith you can't stay stagnant you're either going
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backwards or you're going forwards and i think there's always that that push to go forwards in
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your faith and a lot of the um challenges and obstacles that come kind of help you recognize
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that that you've got to keep pushing forward and they're always challenging you to get deeper and
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deeper and of course that means sometimes that you might lose certain things in your life whether
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you know whatever that might be whether that's you know financially or acquaintances or prospects or
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whatever it might be for people but then you always gain so much more um and and that deepening of
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that relationship with god for those who kind of experience that they'll know that that there's
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nothing that compares with that when you um and in a way the more that you abandon yourself to god
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the more beautiful that that really does become because you know in a way then you feel you well you
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don't just feel you know that there's a certain um detachment from other things and that is that is a
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real sense of freedom you know and i guess this is what this this whole thing is all about is about
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freedom the freedom you know to be able to in my case silently pray um and i think that freedom
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is really rooted in in that abandonment to god um isabel i can only say what i said at the beginning
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of the show it's a real honor to have you on the show you probably don't think that you're offering
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heroic witness um um but i think it's very fair for other people to say that about you if that's what
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they think and i absolutely do think that uh in the in the closing minute and a half um do you want
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to say a few words about the march for life or 40 days for life um or even the adf that's that's
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represented that's providing the legal representation for you um on on these issues
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how can people get involved basically how can how can they support you thank you yeah i mean i'm very
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grateful to adf who who've you know in alliance defending freedom who've been very supportive to me
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throughout um so yeah i i i'm one of the directors at march for life uk um amongst many other things
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that we do throughout the year we have an annual march which is on the 5th of september in london
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um you know we have people coming from actually all over the world now to come and join and we'd
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love people to get involved in that so please do get in touch we have a pro-life summit in the morning
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and then we have a big um you know procession through um through the streets of london and end
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at parliament square so um that's a fantastic initiative to get involved in and um really encourage
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people to come and join us and and many people throughout the world will know about 40 days for life
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obviously this is something that started in america but a lot of countries have you know adapted
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it to suit their own cultures and and i believe that in in the uk it's adapted to suit our own
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going around. Not only that, but also the great confusion within the church, within Christianity,
00:35:13.480
the great apostasy, I believe it's happening right now. And that makes people think,
00:35:20.460
what's going on? Why so much chaos in life? And people that turn to prophecies every time
00:35:27.820
they hit a crisis like this. And I thought it was very important to put out the good prophecy,
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the main prophecy in the Bible, that is Revelation, and show it as it is in the Bible,
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described in the Bible, and also accompany it by an interpretation, because Revelation is
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written mostly in symbols. It's very symbolic. When I first read it, I found it very confusing,
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and that's when I started studying what it meant through great scholars and interpreters,
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mainly Catholic ones. That's what I studied since I'm a Catholic. All of them deeply rooted in the
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fathers of the church, in the early fathers of the church. And the idea was not only to show the
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visions of Revelation as they are, but also try to explain them, because if not, many times people
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only stay with the idea of fear, and they think it's a scary book. But if you see it with the right lens,
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you see that Revelation is actually a prophecy of the triumph of good over evil, of the second coming
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of Christ. And it just gives to all these crises we are living today, a new perspective. It gives it a
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perspective of hope. That's the main goal of the movie, and my main goal doing this film. Why now?
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I've been studying it for about 15 years. The movie started to be produced five years ago. And why now?
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I think it's just Providence. It's already released in more than 20 countries across America with great
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success. And why in America? It's just a matter of Providence.
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So, there is an eschatological dimension, then, to you making this film at this moment in time.
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Yes, absolutely. As I was saying, this crisis is, when you start studying the book of Revelation and all
00:37:31.460
the prophecies, you find out that we are actually living the end times. How long the end times are going
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to be? We don't know. Just Christ himself says that we cannot know the day or the hour. But he also
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says that we should be looking to the signs to know when the time is soon, when the time is near.
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And that's what the movie does. The movie takes the signs, tries to analyze them and explain them,
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and contrast it with real life, actual life facts from our time, and try to discern if we are, in fact,
00:38:12.580
That's quite an unusual way of seeing this, because there's definitely an apostasy taking place in the
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Catholic Church right now. That, I think, is undeniable. It has been for quite a few decades.
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And most people find the reality of looking at that apostasy, it harms their faith. It makes
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belief more difficult when they're looking at an apostasy that's taking place right around them.
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That's not the case, then, with you. You're seeing the apostasy, and you're actually finding
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that your faith is growing as you see that. Is that correct?
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Yeah, that's correct. And that is an excellent point. And that's one of the things that led me
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to study Revelation. I saw the Church, the Catholic Church, being infiltrated by modernism,
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by Freemasons. And how can this be possible? But when you go and study the prophecies,
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and you see that all this was foretold, and not only it was foretold, but it was foretold with so many
00:39:15.620
details. It was foretold by Jesus Christ in Matthew 24. It was foretold by the letters of St. Paul.
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And it is foretold in Revelation. You have the false prophet, and you have all these signs that start to
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make sense on our reality that if you don't have the Bible, you don't have Revelation to turn to,
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it really just generates confusion and desperation. So knowing the signs gives you this perspective I
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was talking about. The second coming of Christ is close, and that for believers is a matter of comfort
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and hope and happiness in the midst of all this crisis.
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Simone, is that then one of the reasons why you actually made the film? Because as a means of
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encouraging the brethren, so that when they see this apostasy taking place, instead of becoming
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despondent, instead of becoming disillusioned, they actually think, hang on, this is all foretold.
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Instead of their faith becoming under threat, it's actually strengthened. That's the case for you
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in your studies of the book of Revelation, and that's what you're trying to pass on to other
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people. Is that correct? That's correct. Absolutely. The harder things get, also that makes people rise
00:43:14.260
and work harder. Sanctity is stronger when things are more difficult. If everything was easy,
00:43:23.780
nothing is demanded from us. Where's the merit, right? So in this time of huge crisis, when one
00:43:33.540
stands out and tries to be saint in the middle of all this apostasy, that gives a lot of merit,
00:43:41.140
and that is part of God's plan. So starting Revelation, you see that all this chaos is not
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really chaos. It's part of our plan, that God is God of history, and that everything is leading up
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to the second coming, to the final victory. So that way, you getting encouraged. I, for example, my mother
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was a pro-life activist here in Argentina, all for life, and she always took us to the marches for life
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and everything here. And everything seems so backwards because we got defeat after defeat
00:44:18.340
in the fight for life. And that is really discouraging. But when you see that all this, all this apostasy,
00:44:27.220
not only of the church, but also of the nations, if you think that Argentina and most nations in Europe
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were Christian, and today Christianity is being withdrawn from societies in all those nations,
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those nations became apostatates also. And that's a sign of the close triumph of good over evil.
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So that gives you hope and invites you to fight stronger, even though it may seem you are losing.
00:44:59.700
One of the interesting dynamics about this show, about the war room, is that pretty much all of the
00:45:07.780
Catholics involved in it, Steve Bannon, myself, Jack Posobiec, we're all traditional Catholics.
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And yet, a huge proportion of the audience, the war room audience, are Bible-believing evangelicals.
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And it's interesting to see the synthesis that's taking place right now between traditional Catholicism
00:45:33.700
and conservative, biblically-based evangelicalism. Tell me something about the film that you've made.
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You say that your formation is Catholic, and that's where you went to, to the church fathers,
00:45:48.820
as the source of inspiration for the film. But tell me something about how evangelicals
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will react to this film, and why they might be interested to come and see it.
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Well, I think that Revelation has been for a long time in the hands of evangelicals.
00:46:09.700
For some reason, the church neglected preaching the Second Coming last centuries. I don't know why that is,
00:46:18.740
probably because of the apostasy. But evangelicals, they never cease to preach the Second Coming.
00:46:26.180
They know and they understand that the Second Coming is closed. I think it's core in their preaching.
00:46:33.780
And they'll find that this movie is all about that. It's trying to make inside the Catholic Church what they have been doing for years.
00:46:43.060
Just preach the Second Coming and announce it to everyone who wants to hear about it.
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Just finally, with regards to America right now, there is somewhat of a revival that's taking place,
00:47:00.340
not just in America. We're seeing it in the UK as well. And on our Wednesday show, we're pointing out
00:47:06.020
across continental Europe signs of this. There seems to be a double movement taking place,
00:47:11.780
specifically within the Catholic Church, but not exclusively. Huge numbers of people are peeling away
00:47:18.260
from the church, in huge numbers. It's like a ratio of perhaps one to a hundred, one to a thousand,
00:47:25.380
because for every thousand people, every thousand persons who are leaving, one person is coming in.
00:47:32.500
But I want to say something about that one person who's coming in, because this is really very interesting.
00:47:37.620
And that's what I mean when I say there's a double movement going on. The guys, a lot of young men,
00:47:43.060
a lot of 20-year-old men, and not just in the Catholic Church, also in the evangelical communities
00:47:47.860
as well, are coming to the church for the first time. Now, they're looking at Christianity for the
00:47:54.740
first time. Part of this is to do with social media and what's been happening over recent years.
00:48:01.540
Part of it's to do with the Trump resurgency and the Trump presidency. Part of it's to do with the
00:48:08.100
brutal assassination and public martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. But these trends are coming together,
00:48:14.980
and there is a revival taking place. How do you think, just because we're coming up to the end of
00:48:20.180
the show in a couple of moments, just tell me how, and I'm sure you've noticed this revival
00:48:25.700
taking place as well. Again, it's young 20-year-old guys, generation Z. And these people are on fire
00:48:33.220
with the faith. They are absolutely superb. These are the kids that will have, say, sort of crusader
00:48:38.420
icons on their social media avatars. Tell me what they can sort of draw out from your film as they make
00:48:47.140
their journey towards ever deeper faith with Jesus Christ. Well, the movie tries to transmit
00:48:55.860
the message through the study of the prophecies. The message that God will not ask us account of our
00:49:05.700
victories, but he will ask us account of our scars. So, it's an invitation to fight the good fight. I think they
00:49:15.300
find it very encouraging, this movie, to that mean, to fight the good fight. And also, they will learn
00:49:23.540
a lot about the history of Christianity from the first coming to the second coming, since the movie
00:49:32.900
delves with the prophecy that is more historical, that leads, that is, in the words of Saint Augustine,
00:49:40.580
such that the prophecy of Revelation embraces all the time from the first coming of Christ to the
00:49:47.300
second coming. And this movie will help them see in that timeline, from the first coming to the second
00:49:53.460
coming, where we are standing. And since we are in the war room, one of the main aspects of war is
00:50:01.940
knowing where you're standing in the face of your enemy, to be able to give the battle. So, that's what the
00:50:09.300
movie provides. It gives you a perspective of where we are standing now, related to the history of
00:50:17.700
salvation, and also invites you to fight and prepare for the, one invites one to prepare the kingdom of
00:50:26.820
God, and be waiting for the second coming, for the return of the King. So, Christ is King, and that's how we
00:50:34.500
should live, and that's how we should try to work to make our nations Christ-centered, recognizing that
00:50:46.740
That's absolutely superb. So, look, we've reached now, reached the end of the show, and that's how
00:50:54.500
quickly time flies. I said at the beginning that this is now across 800 theaters in America for these
00:51:03.860
few days. I think it's the 15th, 16th, and 17th. Where do people go to get more information about this?
00:51:12.580
Perhaps they might want to speak to their church leaders to book a whole church outing as a group
00:51:18.020
to come and see the film. Tell me what the points of reference are to get that block booking in to
00:51:25.300
come and see the film. Well, people can find information about theaters and get tickets in
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apocalypserebuild.com or in phantomentertainment.com. And of course, yeah, invite everyone you can.
00:51:41.380
I think it's a great opportunity to have a topic of discussion among friends, among parishioners,
00:51:48.500
among family, and you will find it very interesting, very enlightening, and very entertaining,
00:51:55.700
because the visions of St. John in Revelation are very spectacular.
00:52:00.820
Simon Delacroix, just one more time, where was that website they need to go to?
00:52:09.940
Apocalypserebuild.com. There you can access all the information.
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That's all we've got time for today. Thanks to my guests, Simon Delacroix and Isabel Vaughn-Spruce.
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We'll be back at the same time next week. I want to thank, special thanks to Will and his crack
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