Bannon's War Room - March 06, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 962： Holding Polis Accountable For Tina Peters; Victory For The Grassroots


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Tina Peters was sentenced to 9 years in prison for a white-collar crime she committed at a gas station in Colorado. President Trump has since pardoned her, and now she is fighting for her freedom. Will it happen?

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00:00:00.000 Islamic Jihadis are plotting against you. 0.96
00:00:22.240 Why in the hell do you think they're in Houston and in north of Dallas? 0.98
00:00:25.000 They are working together to overthrow western civilization.
00:00:29.220 Sharia compounds, which are areas governed by religious rules.
00:00:33.260 We know who you are, we know what you are, and we know what you're trying to accomplish,
00:00:38.580 and it is not going to happen in the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic.
00:00:44.140 We purge any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas.
00:00:47.480 They are not coming. They are already here.
00:00:50.300 You are not here properly, and you're going to leave.
00:00:54.180 On the 3rd of March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas.
00:01:01.500 The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another. 0.99
00:01:05.640 We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it. 1.00
00:01:11.120 Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas. 1.00
00:01:18.040 As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world.
00:01:23.800 Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?
00:01:28.780 War Room, Texas. Your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Starts right now.
00:01:38.160 It's Thursday, 5 March, in the year of World War 2026.
00:01:41.640 We're going to start, this is a show tonight about the grassroots.
00:01:45.600 That's how we had this overwhelming victory for Proposition 10, the Sharia law proposition, 1.00
00:01:50.480 that will prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas.
00:01:53.180 It's almost 2 million votes. I think roughly 100,000 no's, 95% approval.
00:02:00.780 Just overwhelming. I want to thank all the grassroots groups.
00:02:03.360 Once again, it's your victory and the folks that came out and voted. It was just incredible.
00:02:07.100 We're going to start in Colorado and talk about a champion of the grassroots, Tina Peters.
00:02:12.760 We're then going to pivot.
00:02:13.880 We've got Matt Boyle and Caroline Wren, two of the smartest political minds in our country.
00:02:18.800 And guess what? We're going to talk about the grassroots in Texas, and then we're going to end up in Montgomery County, Texas.
00:02:25.220 You were able to meet a week or so ago some of the grassroots leaders there.
00:02:29.780 They're Karl Rove and others decided to, how do I say this, terminate their political careers.
00:02:36.480 Well, guess what? They won with 65% of the vote on Tuesday.
00:02:39.600 And Wendy and Kim are going to be back with us.
00:02:42.540 I want to start with Peter Tickton.
00:02:43.660 Peter, you've done an extraordinary job.
00:02:47.040 You're Tina Peters' federal lawyer. 0.79
00:02:49.220 You got the pardon from President Trump.
00:02:52.180 I know you've been working nonstop with Tina's team.
00:02:57.160 Is there any update?
00:02:58.180 Are we close to really getting freedom for Tina Peters, sir?
00:03:02.660 We're this close.
00:03:04.120 Oh, absolutely.
00:03:05.360 I'm expecting it.
00:03:06.320 I'm hoping for tomorrow.
00:03:07.400 You know, the fact is that first, Governor Polis realized and made it public that he realized that her sentence was too harsh.
00:03:18.880 I mean, duh.
00:03:20.000 I mean, a white-collar situation where that's really one event and everything is consecutive.
00:03:25.820 You know, when you're sentenced to do time and you have, let's say somebody goes around and robs 10 different gas stations.
00:03:34.000 Well, then they get sentenced for each one and it runs consecutively.
00:03:38.040 So first you spend your sentence for the first one.
00:03:41.640 Then you have the time for the next one.
00:03:43.480 Then you have the next one.
00:03:45.520 That's what consecutive sentencings are.
00:03:48.000 And because of that, it adds up to a lot of time.
00:03:50.460 Now, in Tina Peters' case, it was like one person robbing one gas station, but because they said, aha, they went over to the pumps and they went over to the store and they went here and there and made different charges for each thing.
00:04:04.420 And then they made that, which is always run concurrently into consecutive sentences.
00:04:10.220 Plus, the Court of Appeals was really clear that they really did something wrong in that they sentenced her on a felony when she was only convicted on a misdemeanor.
00:04:19.480 Or they made it into a felony.
00:04:21.780 They did everything in the book that they could possibly do wrong.
00:04:25.600 So hang on.
00:04:27.280 This is her 500, I think, 18th day.
00:04:30.020 Polis the other day put up a woman that had kind of the very situation with Tina. 0.99
00:04:35.560 It wasn't exactly the same, but she had gotten, I think, probation and community service.
00:04:41.940 And Polis actually said, we have a tweet up, how Tina Peters got nine years plus three years probation.
00:04:47.540 He actually said that.
00:04:48.040 But aren't we beyond the justice of it?
00:04:51.160 Because as soon as he put it up on a national basis, he got lit up from everybody, including people in his own administration who are running for higher office, right?
00:05:02.420 The secretary of state being one of them.
00:05:04.300 But people from all over the nation, because Tina is a political prisoner and she's become kind of this symbol of the suppression of the Trump movement and the MAGA movement, sir.
00:05:17.320 Oh, thank you so much for saying that, because that's the absolute truth.
00:05:22.560 That's exactly what she is.
00:05:24.540 You know, sometimes you hear rhetoric that somebody is a political prisoner, but that's really what Tina Peters is. 0.99
00:05:29.880 She's in prison for three reasons. 0.78
00:05:32.000 Number one is to shut her up. 1.00
00:05:34.500 They don't want her talking about the election fraud because we have a serious election emergency going on right now that has to be dealt with.
00:05:43.080 But they don't want her voice in there because they don't they don't want the public to know what's happening.
00:05:48.420 Number two, they want to shut her up because Janet Griswold, the secretary of state that you mentioned, she is using Tina Peters as a scapegoat, basically. 1.00
00:06:02.500 You know, as long as she's in jail, somebody is taking the blame for whatever.
00:06:07.220 And so they're not blaming her.
00:06:08.800 But Janet Griswold is clearly a criminal. 1.00
00:06:11.200 She is the one who wiped out and then rewrote on the hard drives of all the Dominion machines in 62 of the counties.
00:06:23.680 That was done.
00:06:25.180 First of all, when you wipe it, you can still get information.
00:06:27.580 But when you rewrite over it, you can't get it again.
00:06:30.840 It's gone forever.
00:06:32.260 So all the data from the 2020 election was wiped out by Janet Griswold.
00:06:36.720 She could do a year in prison for each one of those 62 different counties where she wiped it out. 0.99
00:06:43.580 And those would be consecutive.
00:06:46.240 So we're talking about a real criminal who was one of the loudest voices to keep Tina Peters in prison.
00:06:51.420 And then the third and most important reason that they kept that they went after Tina Peters is to teach every other clerk in the whole country to make sure that they don't get brave.
00:07:02.660 Make sure you don't, you know, preserve evidence.
00:07:05.780 Make sure you don't make sure that the truth is preserved.
00:07:09.600 That's what that's all about.
00:07:11.380 That's the biggest and most important of all the reasons.
00:07:15.280 So, yes, she's a political prisoner. 0.82
00:07:17.800 And, you know, the judge was even clear when she asked for bail pending appeal when she qualified for it by the laws of the state of Colorado.
00:07:25.220 And he said, no, because she's more dangerous than a violent criminal because of what she would say. 0.99
00:07:33.080 So, in other words, we don't have freedom of speech in Colorado anymore.
00:07:36.960 You stay in prison because of what you may say. 0.93
00:07:40.160 And that is a pathetic situation in the state of affairs. 0.95
00:07:47.100 This is a very dangerous prison. 0.85
00:07:48.760 You guys have done an amazing job of trying to protect her.
00:07:51.440 It's a very dangerous prison.
00:07:53.180 She's 70 years old plus.
00:07:55.180 She's had cancer.
00:07:56.400 She's a gold star mother. 0.59
00:07:57.860 Peter, we've got to bounce.
00:07:58.660 Where do people go to keep up with you tonight and we'll have you back on tomorrow?
00:08:02.880 And where do they go to support your guys' cause?
00:08:05.560 Because you and John Case have put a tremendous amount of time in this in defending Tina Peters and getting this to the thing.
00:08:12.680 We may be on the eve of her release.
00:08:14.260 We don't know.
00:08:14.860 We don't want to overpromise people.
00:08:16.380 But there's clearly you guys have somehow gotten to the governor and have the governor actually thinking this through.
00:08:22.780 So where do people go to keep up with the information overnight and tomorrow and where they go to support you guys?
00:08:28.660 Okay, so for Tina Peters, it's tinapeters.us.
00:08:32.940 Very simple, tinapeters.us.
00:08:35.680 And for me, it's legalbrains.com.
00:08:40.180 But I want to say that there's also Patrick McSweeney and Bob Sincar and Stephanie Lambert, who's also there with John Case and me.
00:08:51.080 And also one of the biggest people, one of the most important is Donald Trump.
00:08:55.960 Thank God for Donald Trump because he has been very effective in helping this whole situation come about.
00:09:02.980 Well, no, I think – and also McSweeney's – his mom, they were neighbors.
00:09:07.280 His mom is probably my late mom's best friend.
00:09:10.500 Pat McSweeney's a legend.
00:09:11.640 But what you guys have done, given everything President Trump has on his plate, to be able to concise and boil it down and when you are with him or using the time, it's so effective.
00:09:22.820 You've done a – it's obviously he's our leader and hero in this.
00:09:27.240 But just the use of time with everything going on in the world, wars, invasion of the country, for you guys to be able to use his time best on this case, I tell you, is heroic because I hear that from everybody.
00:09:41.000 You do not waste his time.
00:09:42.600 And for that, everybody appreciates it, particularly Tina Peters.
00:09:46.440 So, Peter Ticknow, I'll talk to you after the show.
00:09:48.880 And then tomorrow morning, any more developments?
00:09:50.480 We want to have you on first.
00:09:52.360 Perfect.
00:09:52.760 Thank you very much.
00:09:53.460 Appreciate it.
00:09:53.900 You got a federal pardon from President Trump.
00:09:56.340 That is pretty – that's not easy in this situation.
00:10:00.140 So we're on Tenter Herx about Tina.
00:10:02.120 We did the show, The 500 Days of Tina Peters, and we're rolling through that.
00:10:05.280 Okay.
00:10:06.380 Let's do a reset because there is a massive issue in the great state of Texas, and that is about the Senate race.
00:10:13.100 Matt Boyle, I've got you and Wren, two of the smartest minds out there.
00:10:16.680 I want to start with you.
00:10:18.360 You put up – and if Denver can put up the tweet – so you put up a tweet earlier this afternoon.
00:10:23.900 I want to put it up, and I want to have you walk the audience through exactly what in the hell is going on in this situation with Ken Paxton and John Cornyn, sir.
00:10:37.880 Do we have – is Matt off of mute?
00:10:39.540 Do we have him off of mute?
00:10:42.640 Matt, do you hear me?
00:10:44.560 Now I can hear you, Steve.
00:10:45.760 I couldn't hear you before.
00:10:46.960 We're having tech issues.
00:10:48.040 Okay, we got you.
00:10:49.480 Your tweet, can you put the tweet up, and I want you to walk through it because this thing kind of exploded today.
00:10:55.360 It went viral.
00:10:56.680 I'd like to have you explain what you're talking about and how this relates to Ken Paxton.
00:11:01.240 Sure.
00:11:02.140 So, yeah, if they want to put it up there on the screen.
00:11:04.780 But the gist here is that Ken Paxton pulled the fast one on the establishment.
00:11:08.480 Look, the establishment has been desperately trying to convince President Trump to endorse John Cornyn, the incumbent senator, in this runoff.
00:11:17.000 Their argument is that it would seal the deal for Cornyn.
00:11:20.640 That's probably right, by the way.
00:11:21.900 I think the president's endorsement is the most powerful political tool in modern history, maybe ever.
00:11:28.840 And we've never seen anything like it.
00:11:30.360 I don't think we'll ever see anything like it ever again.
00:11:32.800 But that being said, so they've been trying to convince Trump to endorse Cornyn, saying, okay, it's going to save Republicans $100 million and wrap this thing up pretty quickly.
00:11:41.380 Well, Paxton comes back with a turn-the-tables moment.
00:11:46.180 He says, you know, and the president's obviously out there saying that whoever he endorses, he's asking the other one to drop out.
00:11:52.960 And then Paxton originally came out and said that he wouldn't drop out of the race.
00:11:56.920 Now he's saying he would drop out only if the president endorsed Cornyn, but only if the Senate got the Save America Act to the president's desk to be signed into law as it is right now.
00:12:10.640 Now, of course, the Senate could do this right now if they wanted to.
00:12:14.040 But John Thune and John Cornyn and all these other old guard guys in the U.S. Senate do not want to change the Senate rules to nuke the filibuster to get, you know, either do the talking filibuster like we've heard Senators Scott and Lee and those guys talk about or do change the Senate rules to make sure that you get it to the president's desk.
00:12:34.720 Now, they don't want to do that.
00:12:36.100 So now when Paxton came out and said this, then we saw a Senate GOP leadership aide come out and say on background to a reporter that they wouldn't be surprised if Thune throws Cornyn under the bus
00:12:56.580 and doesn't proceed forward with backing him and allows Paxton to get the nomination in order to not pass the Save America Act and do those things that we're talking about in the Senate to make sure that it gets to the president's desk.
00:13:11.220 That's how much, you know, reticence there is among establishment Republican senators to doing things with regard to the filibuster and change the rules to make sure that something that's important gets to the president's desk.
00:13:22.840 So I was kind of saying that what this shows is, is that, you know, how fast they would throw Cornyn under the bus to protect their filibuster, right?
00:13:37.300 Like, I mean, that just tells you everything you need to know about, I think, the Senate Republican establishment, that they literally throw the guy they've already spent $70 million on.
00:13:48.260 They intend to spend another $100 million in the runoff on and another $100 million beyond that in the general election under the bus who's been a senator for 20-something years in order to do that.
00:14:01.000 Now, I think the move by Paxton was genius because he frames the whole thing up as a referenda on the Save America Act, right?
00:14:10.900 Like, so look, the president is right to make this a number one priority of his.
00:14:15.740 He makes it a referendum on John Cornyn not doing anything for 24 years.
00:14:19.760 Now you're going to see John Cornyn in all his glory, right?
00:14:22.160 I mean, he's boxed in.
00:14:24.240 Cornyn thinks he's so smart.
00:14:25.620 He boxed in Cornyn to Cornyn's core move, which is to basically do nothing and kind of talk of being a supporter of President Trump or talk being MAGA.
00:14:35.340 But when you've got to take action, he's not going to take anything.
00:14:37.440 The president has already said the Save America Act is everything, isn't it, sir?
00:14:41.660 Yeah, well, and that's the point is that the Senate Republicans could get this to President Trump's desk today if they wanted to for signature into law to protect our elections and to have voter ID and to stop illegal aliens from voting and so on and so forth.
00:14:56.060 All the things that are great in the Save America Act.
00:14:58.340 The problem is, is that they won't do anything about the filibuster.
00:15:01.940 They won't do the talking filibuster.
00:15:03.580 You keep hearing Thune saying, oh, well, DHS is shut down, so we don't want to spend the clock time on that.
00:15:09.200 Oh, we don't want to change the Senate rules.
00:15:10.740 Well, I mean, here's the thing, right?
00:15:13.040 Like the whole nation depends on this, the secure elections.
00:15:16.980 So if they don't, they have all the tools they need to right now in the United States Senate to send this to the president today.
00:15:25.720 But John Thune doesn't want to and John Cornyn doesn't want to.
00:15:29.800 It's important to understand that, right?
00:15:31.820 What they want to do is they want to do a show vote where they all vote on it on a 60-vote threshold knowing that it will fail because the Democrats will quote-unquote filibuster it, right?
00:15:43.180 So what Paxton did that was a genius move is he says, I will literally lay down on the sword for you guys.
00:15:51.840 I will take the sacrifice to make them do this and get it to the president's desk, as we all know they can do, yet they are so resistant to doing.
00:16:01.600 And I'll stand down if that's what it takes to get this super important thing to the president's desk for his signature into law.
00:16:10.320 It's not a show vote.
00:16:11.800 It's a serious effort.
00:16:13.740 And so that's why, I mean, they're kind of cornered here, right?
00:16:17.340 Like, so, look, I don't know what the president's going to do one way or the other.
00:16:22.580 But I think that it's abundantly clear at this point that if you want the Save America Act to pass, Paxton's the choice, not Cornyn, right?
00:16:31.780 Like, and so Cornyn says he supports the bill and would vote for it, but Cornyn won't do what's necessary to get the bill to the president's desk.
00:16:40.540 Neither will Thune, neither will the rest of these guys that are all trying to convince President Trump right now to endorse Senator Cornyn.
00:16:47.740 And I think that's important to understand here.
00:16:50.840 And again, I'm saying this all just analyzing it for you.
00:16:53.660 I don't have a dog in the fight.
00:16:54.940 I actually like Cornyn. 0.93
00:16:56.040 I've got along with him personally over the years.
00:16:58.000 But the point is, is that the guy's not willing to do what it is that's necessary to get the Save America Act to the president's desk, and Paxton is.
00:17:08.160 And I think that Paxton making that a referenda really changes the game here in the 11th hour.
00:17:14.540 Somebody jumped the gun.
00:17:15.860 The president was still thinking through issues.
00:17:18.260 You could tell somebody put out a true social the other day.
00:17:21.340 It was supposedly unauthorized or too early.
00:17:24.180 You can see that President Trump's trying to think this thing through.
00:17:26.280 Something that has, I think, happened over the last 24 hours is so many of the grassroots members throughout the nation, but really particularly here in Texas, are going back.
00:17:37.440 And specifically after the 2020 election was stolen by the Biden regime and the Republican establishment looked the other way, they're going back and playing the greatest hits of John Cornyn.
00:17:49.900 And I think that's just reinforcing a lot of people of this guy's not only not MAGA, he's kind of anti-MAGA.
00:17:57.860 Because the hatred of Cornyn is not about policy and being a rhino.
00:18:02.360 Yes, they don't like him for that.
00:18:04.460 They don't like those policies.
00:18:06.760 They don't like that whole Bush aspect of it.
00:18:08.620 But when you get the vitriol down here, it's because he's gone out of his way to really hate on President Trump and that he spent $80 million trying to destroy Ken Paxton, who is an iconic figure.
00:18:21.440 Those two elements combined, I think, have a certain core of MAGA and the grassroots folks down here that I don't know of any circumstances, including in a general election.
00:18:34.720 I just don't see them voting for John Cornyn.
00:18:36.680 And as you know, Matt, you're going to need every vote come November.
00:18:40.120 Your thoughts on that before you punch?
00:18:41.360 There's a million people that voted against John Cornyn in this primary, okay?
00:18:46.540 800,000 or so or close to that voted for Paxton.
00:18:50.340 Several hundred thousand voted for Wesley Hunt.
00:18:53.060 That's a million people that voted against John Cornyn in the Republican primary in Texas.
00:18:59.140 John Cornyn needs every single one of those votes if he's the Republican nominee to win in the general election.
00:19:04.760 Now, I do think that either one of these candidates would win a general election against James Tallarico, who is an extremist psychopath, right?
00:19:13.080 Like, I mean, look at some of the tweets that this guy sent out over the years. 0.88
00:19:15.680 They're terrible. 0.96
00:19:16.520 They're insane. 0.99
00:19:17.300 I mean, that guy belongs not in the United States Senate, but in an insane asylum without a belt and sneakers, okay? 0.97
00:19:23.380 Like, I mean, that's how bad this guy is. 0.97
00:19:25.260 And so he's totally psychopathic. 0.63
00:19:27.520 So I do think that the Republicans will pull it off.
00:19:29.980 That being said, to your point, yes, it's going to cost more for Cornyn than it would for Paxton because people will be excited to vote for Paxton.
00:19:38.800 And, yeah, the establishment people will come around because it's very similar to, like, Trump's elections, right?
00:19:43.720 Like, where the establishment people come around and they vote for him in the end.
00:19:47.500 Whereas the base, if Cornyn's the guy, they're going to have to really, really pump the money out there to get the base fired up and get them to vote for this guy.
00:19:56.600 Now, to your point also about Trump and his hatred of Trump over the years, this would be Cornyn's last term in the United States Senate if he wins.
00:20:05.120 Now, Cornyn did not vote to convict President Trump in either of his first two impeachments back in Trump's first term or in the aftermath of his first term when Biden was in office and they did that Senate trial then.
00:20:17.000 But remember, there were a whole bunch of establishment Republicans who did.
00:20:19.780 If the Democrats take the House back in November, they fully intend to impeach President Trump a third time.
00:20:26.560 If and when there is a Senate trial, I don't know if John Cornyn would vote to convict President Trump or not.
00:20:32.900 I don't know.
00:20:34.140 I think the odds are that he would probably vote to convict President Trump based off of the things that he said about President Trump over the years.
00:20:42.080 President Trump needs to keep that in mind when he makes his decision here.
00:20:45.460 So I don't think the president's made his mind up. And I will say, whoever the president decides is probably going to win.
00:20:52.100 Right. Like the president's endorsement is infallible. But that being said, essentially infallible.
00:20:57.620 You can count on one hand the number of times it hasn't worked. Right.
00:21:00.280 And there's usually extreme circumstances. But that being said, I do think that if the president endorses Cornyn, I think that a lot of people are going to regret that in the end.
00:21:09.380 Matt Boyle, you broke some news here, sir. Where do people go on your Twitter feed?
00:21:14.800 Of course, Matt was we worked together. One of the things we did is Matt took a timeout from Twitter.
00:21:19.900 Andrew was the king of Twitter. Matt was Matt was becoming after Andrew after Andrew died, passed away.
00:21:27.160 Matt came on board and became a superstar and got in Twitter.
00:21:30.940 But one too many Twitter fights. We decided to take a timeout. But you're on Twitter now.
00:21:35.140 You've got your own show. You're over at Breitbart.
00:21:37.040 Where do people go to get all your writings and all your observations you're putting here?
00:21:41.120 Because this, folks, this one is hour by hour. So you've got to stay on top of this.
00:21:45.700 Where do they go, Matt?
00:21:46.800 Yeah, just Breitbart.com, at mboyle1 on X, Twitter, and at Real Matt Boyle on True Social.
00:21:52.580 So my True Social is exploding. I think there's more people that are on True Social than Twitter or any of that thing.
00:21:58.020 Like I have like a million something on there. And I think that's because of this show, whenever I talk about it.
00:22:02.520 Yeah. No, I've got to tell you, True Social, the first thing, it used to just be President Trump.
00:22:07.240 The show is exploding on there. True Social is on fire right now.
00:22:10.740 Yeah, absolutely.
00:22:11.180 Matt Boyle, thank you, sir. And thank you for breaking news on the War Room, on War Room, Texas. We appreciate you.
00:22:16.460 Yeah, you bet.
00:22:17.000 Caroline Wren, I had all the way I was going to start it, but I want to start with, Boyle just said, hey, I think Cornyn, I don't know if he, he's going to take the over and that Cornyn is going to vote to convict President Trump.
00:22:30.860 If he ever comes up for a third impeachment, which if we lose the House, and that may depend upon South Texas, they do.
00:22:40.600 Your observation on that, I'm going to hold you through the break because you have spent a lot of time thinking through this issue and how you game this out for Ken Paxton, ma'am.
00:22:49.640 I think he is absolutely right. I mean, he did say that Cornyn did not vote to impeach President Trump the first two times,
00:22:56.520 but that is probably and most likely only because he knew he was running for re-election.
00:23:01.000 The point I made on your show two days ago, which is why I think it is so dangerous to have someone like Cornyn, is Cornyn, he's 74 years old.
00:23:08.540 If he wins this primary and wins the general election, he will be in his last term.
00:23:12.440 He will be unaccountable and not have to answer to the primary MAGA Republican voters of Texas any longer.
00:23:19.160 And if tales of the past teach us anything, just look at Mitch McConnell, Tom Tillis.
00:23:25.040 These are folks that are not accountable anymore to primary voters, they're not running for re-election, and you see them, look at John McCain.
00:23:32.480 They love, love, love to just buck President Trump just to, really because they like the, you know, getting the credit with their best friends in the establishment media and on Wall Street.
00:23:41.840 And so I think that what he said is absolutely right.
00:23:43.820 I do think that the odds are that Cornyn would vote for an impeachment versus against based off of what we have seen from these retiring RINO senators in the past.
00:23:51.780 Look, we got about two minutes, I'll hold you through, two minutes of break, and then we're going to hold you through.
00:23:56.340 Tim Miller, and look, Tim is a former RNC comms director.
00:24:00.180 Now he's gone to the left, the Bulwarks, the show, it's on fire.
00:24:03.480 But he watches, he studies MAGA because he used to be an establishment Republican.
00:24:08.740 He's got a bunch of analysis up that says, hey, even President Trump's endorsement, as powerful as that is,
00:24:14.780 he does, he's not sure that puts Cornyn over the top, given the people in Texan know Cornyn well, and they know he hates President Trump.
00:24:23.500 Your thoughts, ma'am?
00:24:25.920 You know, I do think he put out some, I think, impressive numbers, and it's what I've always been seeing in this race,
00:24:30.700 which is that actually Ken Paxton is the much stronger candidate in this runoff because people are excited to go vote for Ken Paxton.
00:24:37.840 They're dying to go vote for him, whereas with Cornyn, I mean, it's unbelievable that you are a four-term incumbent United States senator
00:24:45.220 that had to spend $100 million to lose 60% of the primary vote.
00:24:51.580 And especially, Texas is the most expensive state to run campaigns in, in the country.
00:24:56.340 The media market, the state's massive, the amount of voters is massive, the media market's massive.
00:25:00.120 And Ken Paxton, you know, with toe-to-toe with a four-time incumbent senator spending, I think, only $4 million to John Cornyn's $100 million.
00:25:10.200 That is so astonishing.
00:25:12.420 And so I agree with Matt Boyle that, you know, President Trump's endorsement is incredibly powerful and almost always is the deciding factor here.
00:25:20.640 And I'm still holding out that President Trump, you know, goes with Ken Paxton and sees this here.
00:25:25.780 But, you know, is there still a lane if he didn't?
00:25:28.480 Or just stays out. Hang on, we're going to take a short commercial break.
00:25:32.140 I want to hold you through it because you kind of game-theoried this thing out the other day.
00:25:35.960 And I just want the audience to make sure we understand exactly what's going on here.
00:25:40.160 So Caroline Wren is going to stick with us.
00:25:41.920 She's going to walk through this challenge that Ken Paxton threw down to John Cornyn in the United States Senate.
00:25:48.900 We're also going to go to Montgomery County, Texas.
00:25:51.020 You're going to have a—you're going to love this one.
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00:32:02.660 Are you prepared to fight for this state?
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00:32:10.580 I'm so honored about the grassroots and what they did here on the Sharia Law Proposition 10, which had no money in back of it.
00:32:18.540 It's really grassroots effort to do it.
00:32:20.040 One million, what, 981,000 votes for, I think around 100,000 votes against, had the largest spread, 95%.
00:32:28.740 Also, if you combine, if you combine Cornyn and Paxton, and Cornyn spent $80 to $100 million, it was bigger than the turnout for both.
00:32:39.620 That was the extraordinary part of it.
00:32:41.600 And I want to thank all the grassroots efforts and back that, and of course, everybody that voted.
00:32:46.300 Caroline Wren, and we got two really, a great story in the grassroots, going to be up from Montgomery County, Texas in a moment.
00:32:53.560 Caroline Wren, walk me through exactly what this whole proposition, what Matt Boll was talking about, for the audience to understand what the state of play is.
00:33:02.260 Somebody jumped the gun, one of these staffers around President Trump, and put out this tweet the other day that looked like it was kind of negative on Paxton, and then they leaked.
00:33:11.920 He was about to endorse Cornyn.
00:33:14.220 That turned out not to be right.
00:33:15.480 We understand the president was very upset about that.
00:33:18.400 He wanted to chew on it some more.
00:33:19.560 He did say that he's close to making a decision, and he's going to ask the other party to drop out as part of this.
00:33:24.860 And then Ken Paxton, what did Ken Paxton do then?
00:33:28.800 So on Tuesday, obviously, we had the Texas primary, and if you don't get about 50%, then it goes to a three-month runoff.
00:33:35.000 But Cornyn and Paxton essentially tied around 40%, and then you had Wesley Hunt, and it dissent around 16% of the vote.
00:33:42.700 So now we're headed to this runoff.
00:33:44.440 And so yesterday, there was a flurry of activity, but it started with a post by The Atlantic, which is a non-MAGA outlet, to say the least,
00:33:53.200 saying that their sources are telling them that Donald Trump was going to endorse Cornyn.
00:33:57.000 Well, the base, myself, you, everyone, we all got obviously upset, and then about five minutes later, there's a truth social post from President Trump coming out saying
00:34:06.600 that he was about to make his decision on endorsing in the Texas Senate race, and in order to avoid wasting a bunch of money,
00:34:14.800 that he was going to expect that the candidate that he does not endorse, that they need to drop out, and he's going to ask them to do that.
00:34:21.320 But then a few minutes later, you had Alex Eisenstadt with Axios, who's fairly well-sourced in the White House, I will say,
00:34:27.820 confirm The Atlantic's reporting that President Trump was intending to endorse Cornyn.
00:34:33.300 And so then later on that day, what we've seen happen is that actually there's a lot of people that work for President Trump,
00:34:39.020 who I like a lot, but they're on the payroll of the Cornyn campaign.
00:34:42.760 So they were clearly, and they were all sourced as, you know, sources close to the White House, which is accurate.
00:34:47.780 They are close to the White House.
00:34:48.600 They work for Trump, but they also are paid by Cornyn to go out and spin reporters.
00:34:53.380 So they jumped the gun, I think, and got ahead of what the president intended to do.
00:34:57.760 We don't know what his intended announcement was, but I do think that because that happened, it sort of slowed things down.
00:35:04.220 And so we get to today, and we see Ken Paxton come out with, I think, one of the—there's two things it is.
00:35:09.220 It's the most selfless and brilliant thing I've ever seen a politician do, starting with number one, why it was selfless.
00:35:15.220 Ken Paxton comes out and says that the only way that I will drop out of this race is that if President Trump can get a commitment from Leader Thune to not only lift the filibuster and bring the Save America Act to a vote, but then they have to also pass it.
00:35:31.420 He said, you know what, if these rhino senators want me out so badly and they do not want Ken Paxton in there—I worked for Carrie Lake, and they were apoplectic about her coming in. 0.99
00:35:41.740 And Paxton, they are, like, even more terrified.
00:35:43.880 So they—so he comes out and basically says, fine, the only way I will drop out of this race is if you pass this.
00:35:50.260 And first of all, I've never seen a politician—that is truly putting your country first.
00:35:55.360 The Save America Act is the most important act that I will ever see come to a vote in my lifetime.
00:36:00.080 Ken Paxton clearly recognizes that and says to everyone, I will end my political career to fall on the sword to get this done for you.
00:36:06.940 And you know what? A lot of people were, I guess, who love Paxton, including myself, they were upset about it, thinking, oh, my gosh, this is him.
00:36:13.820 He's going to drop out. And I believe that is not at all what Ken Paxton is doing or saying.
00:36:18.780 He is giving Donald Trump, who is the greatest dealmaker in history, he is giving President Trump the leverage that he needs to go and get this done.
00:36:26.660 Because why do we need this much leverage? Because we have 53 Republican senators. 0.64
00:36:31.920 The typical, you need 60 senators to vote yes to get a bill passed.
00:36:37.780 There's something called the filibuster, that if you lift the filibuster, you can actually get something passed with just 51 votes.
00:36:43.760 Now, the Democrats, for years, have been saying that they are going to lift the filibuster to pass their radical agenda as soon as they take power.
00:36:52.800 It's actually why they forced Kyrsten Sinema out of the Senate. 0.97
00:36:55.520 And, you know, when I worked for Carrie Lake, I had to watch Ruben Gallego would come on TV and basically say that he will vote to lift the filibuster every single day.
00:37:03.940 Probably he'll lift the filibuster more than he'd lift the toilet seat.
00:37:07.260 And so it is amazing to me that now Republicans are in power.
00:37:10.560 We have the House, the Senate and the presidency.
00:37:12.740 And we are not going to lift the filibuster to get a vote as important as the Save America Act done.
00:37:18.440 Because guess what? If this situation was reversed and the Democrats have power, they have said over and over again, on the record, that they would lift the filibuster to pass H.R.1, which was their insane election bill, which called for allowing illegal citizens to vote.
00:37:33.600 They would do it to pass radical abortion rights. 1.00
00:37:36.620 So this is just, again, it's like the Republicans, we just are playing.
00:37:39.860 I always say this on your show.
00:37:40.900 We're playing, I don't know, like croquet while the Democrats are playing with knives and just smashing us.
00:37:47.560 And so Paxson recognizes this and he says, OK, President Trump, you're the best dealmaker in history.
00:37:53.240 I'm going to give you the leverage to go back to the caucus and tell them, Thune, if you really, really do not want Kim Paxson in the Senate and you want Corden back, then get this vote done.
00:38:02.720 And you know what? So if that does happen, that would be incredible.
00:38:06.440 And then look, Paxson could go into the cabinet.
00:38:08.740 There are plenty of positions that are going to come open.
00:38:10.480 We saw a DHS shake.
00:38:11.920 Paxson would be incredible at DHS.
00:38:13.320 So worst case scenario is also best case scenario.
00:38:16.760 If this actually happened, something like that could happen.
00:38:19.220 But otherwise, you know, I just I it is amazing to me how much that the Republican Senate establishment is unwilling to bring this to a vote.
00:38:27.640 It is an 80-20 issue.
00:38:29.340 It's absolutely insane.
00:38:30.800 And but they they they're never going to do it.
00:38:33.340 The reason the reason it's brilliant is that he exposes Thune, he exposes the leadership in the Senate, and he particularly exposes Cornyn, right?
00:38:44.040 He exposes Cornyn as not being able to have this happen.
00:38:46.200 And so what Kim Paxson was saying is that, hey, we don't need to spend one hundred million dollars.
00:38:50.100 You don't need to turn anybody else apart.
00:38:51.660 Right. And we'll support you in the general.
00:38:53.820 But you've got to get this done.
00:38:55.780 And in the way you do it is you get the standing filibuster.
00:38:58.580 So, you know, Matt said it could be signed this afternoon.
00:39:00.520 It might take a couple of weeks because they will try to filibuster it for a while, but eventually it'll collapse.
00:39:05.800 And then you'll have the same America. 0.73
00:39:07.620 Sit there and talk on the Senate floor and try to justify or explain why they want illegal illegal aliens to vote in our elections.
00:39:14.580 That's the beauty of the talking filibuster.
00:39:16.780 I would the greatest thing that we can do for the midterms is have the Democrats go on the floor for two weeks and justify why they're voting.
00:39:24.240 It's like that when President Trump froze him at the State of the Union, you get two or three weeks of that 24 hours a day.
00:39:30.620 Caroline, absolutely brilliant.
00:39:32.640 You brought it up the other day.
00:39:34.020 We're going to follow this beat by beat.
00:39:36.320 Where do people go?
00:39:37.200 So you're some of your what you put out on social media is quite relevatory.
00:39:44.880 You said something reporters keep calling you and they want to go on background.
00:39:48.640 So I'd say, hey, here's my name.
00:39:50.680 Here's a quote up in your face because this is hardball right now.
00:39:54.940 Where do folks go to follow you?
00:39:56.920 Yeah, I just said I'm so sick of reading these stories.
00:39:59.200 So a source close to this person.
00:40:00.980 If you want to know what I think, I'm going to put it out in public and put my name on it.
00:40:04.380 I'm not a source close to anyone.
00:40:05.660 I am me.
00:40:06.140 These are my thoughts and here they are.
00:40:07.600 And you can find them on X, True Social and Getter at Caroline Wren.
00:40:12.980 Caroline Wren, thank you so much.
00:40:14.620 And thank you for sticking with Ken Paxson as all those are.
00:40:18.120 Really appreciate you.
00:40:19.960 Thank you.
00:40:22.120 Kim and Wendy from down in Montgomery County.
00:40:24.280 First off, let me ask you, you're kind of the symbolic of grassroots leaders in this state.
00:40:29.720 Give me your sense of Ken Paxson versus John Cornyn.
00:40:36.960 Kim and I have been to events across the state of Texas.
00:40:40.940 And when Ken Paxson walks into a room, he gets a standing ovation.
00:40:46.100 Every room he walks into.
00:40:48.320 And John Cornyn, we have not seen him in years because any room he walks into, he gets booed.
00:40:56.340 That's right.
00:40:57.260 Four years ago at the convention, he got booed off the stage.
00:41:00.640 He supplied all the delegates with a lanyard that said Cornyn.
00:41:04.720 And everybody was throwing them in the trash.
00:41:07.460 And we saw on Facebook that some people made burn piles out of them.
00:41:11.200 So I know he is not popular in Texas.
00:41:15.420 Hang on.
00:41:16.040 Give me a, just give me a, you, you see Paxson all the time and he always gets a standing ovation.
00:41:21.340 You're saying you have not seen Cornyn in years since that convention when he got booed off the stage?
00:41:26.940 Nope.
00:41:27.480 Have not seen him since.
00:41:28.780 Are the, are the grassroots, Doug?
00:41:32.540 And let me ask you a question.
00:41:33.700 I keep saying the animosity has been so built up that all these people in Washington that think he's a layup in November.
00:41:40.440 I, I just said, Hey, look, and I've just spent the last five weeks here, but we've met a ton of grassroots people.
00:41:46.220 And given the negative nature of the campaign and the amount of money, the scale and the, and the vitriol they dropped on Ken Paxson, I said, I think, I don't know, 10%, 20%.
00:41:57.020 There's some percentage of the grassroots MAGA base.
00:42:01.100 They're just not going to vote for John Cornyn.
00:42:03.020 Your, your, your thoughts.
00:42:05.760 John Cornyn is symbolic of the same thing that's happening in Montgomery County.
00:42:11.340 It cost him a hundred million dollars against Ken Paxton's 4 million for him to, to be able to compete because he is so unpopular.
00:42:24.200 Let me ask you, when we last saw you guys, it was before Tuesday, you were in a good old fashioned dogfight down there.
00:42:33.440 They brought in some pretty heavy guns.
00:42:35.220 The Karl Rove group, they had consultants, they had everything.
00:42:38.880 Just get our audience up to speed.
00:42:40.820 What is, what was the results on Tuesday night?
00:42:43.240 Kim and I won our races.
00:42:49.620 We each got 65% of the vote and our opponents got 35% of the vote.
00:42:55.100 So very successful.
00:42:57.300 And we have, we want to say thank you to you for helping expose what was going on.
00:43:03.720 People were, Kim and I each got about 30 mailers against us and 15 text messages against us.
00:43:11.100 And the text messages said, President Trump wants you to vote for, and then our opponents' names.
00:43:17.840 And it had Uncle Sam, it had President Trump's face as Uncle Sam pointing in the text, telling our opponents, telling our constituents that President Trump is.
00:43:29.720 Is, and, and at the polls, they were telling people that President Trump endorsed our opponents.
00:43:37.400 And I take it that was not true.
00:43:40.480 No, no.
00:43:42.880 He would, if President Trump endorsed in those races, he would have endorsed America first.
00:43:48.400 Kim and I.
00:43:49.220 Yeah, for sure.
00:43:50.720 What are, Kim and Wendy, what, what are the issues?
00:43:53.420 Why you're a dedicated, hardworking Americans.
00:43:56.240 You've been with President Trump, you're America first, you're MAGA, you, you do all this in volunteer, right?
00:44:02.380 You're kind of what, and I tell people that you're, you manifest everything in the precinct strategy movement.
00:44:08.440 You manifest everything in the grassroots movement.
00:44:10.820 You manifest everything.
00:44:12.120 And what President Trump has brought to politics, you, you represent the best of us.
00:44:16.620 This is what I don't understand.
00:44:18.980 What was the beef of the people that were so viciously coming after you?
00:44:26.240 We provide transparency and accountability in our county executive committee, and they wanted to get rid of us.
00:44:34.360 They do not want oversight from the CEC.
00:44:38.680 So, they spent a lot of money to try and take us out, and they failed.
00:44:44.320 They don't want to be called to account for, we are demanding representative government.
00:44:51.300 We are demanding that they make us promises and that they actually fulfill those promises when they get in office.
00:45:00.360 And if they don't, then we are highlighting and exposing them.
00:45:04.420 It's much easier.
00:45:05.540 There's about 30 Rhino precinct chairs in our county executive committee, and they play protection racket. 1.00
00:45:14.800 They try to stop us in every single way that they can from exposing the fact that our electeds are not representing us.
00:45:24.280 They are doing things that benefit themselves or benefit their friends.
00:45:29.300 And it would be much easier if we sat down and shut up.
00:45:33.300 Well, if they replaced us with other rhinos who will sit down and shut up and eat a little bit of the pie and let them get the majority of the pie at the rest of the people's expense, then, you know, they would be extremely happy. 0.99
00:45:49.800 We just won't shut up, and we won't stop redressing our government.
00:45:54.460 And so, they want us gone.
00:45:57.020 Yeah, we're fighting for ethical government.
00:45:59.460 And right now in Montgomery County, it is not that way.
00:46:02.680 I don't know if you can see this.
00:46:05.580 Yeah, we can see it.
00:46:06.720 Hold it up.
00:46:07.800 Hold it a little bit higher.
00:46:08.800 Right there.
00:46:09.520 Keep it a little bit higher.
00:46:13.060 Yep, right there.
00:46:14.340 These are the elected officials in Montgomery County. 0.96
00:46:18.360 They're all rhinos. 0.60
00:46:19.700 And they came out and endorsed our opponents.
00:46:24.100 And funded.
00:46:24.980 And funded.
00:46:25.600 Yeah, against us.
00:46:27.760 They sent out mailers.
00:46:29.400 These, they sent out mailers like that.
00:46:32.940 Numerous ones.
00:46:34.220 Asking our, you see, there's two county commissioners.
00:46:38.200 There's two constables.
00:46:40.340 There's two Texas representatives, Cecil Bell and Will Metcalf, both censured.
00:46:45.560 And then our county sheriff, Wesley Doolittle, spent big money to try to unseat Kim and I.
00:46:52.300 And they were out at the polls actively campaigning against us.
00:46:58.880 In uniform.
00:46:59.360 How did you, how did, how did you win with 65, 65% of the, in today's environment, 65% of the vote is a blowout landslide.
00:47:08.400 So with very little to no money, the whole establishment against you, and they had some very sophisticated lawyers down there one time, the whole row of apparatus and mailers.
00:47:17.820 People should know mailers are expensive.
00:47:19.800 You had multiple mailers against you.
00:47:21.440 Text messaging's expensive.
00:47:23.600 If you just don't see that in these type of races, how did you guys then pull off 65, 35 wins?
00:47:31.780 Well, I wrote a letter to my constituents and I put it in a precinct packet with my preferred candidates.
00:47:39.360 And in that letter, I explained exactly what was going on in Montgomery County.
00:47:43.740 And I delivered it to over a thousand homes myself.
00:47:49.380 So we got the word out.
00:47:52.540 Block walking is very effective.
00:47:54.980 And we work the polls.
00:47:56.580 We never leave the polls.
00:47:58.360 I mean, early voting is 10 day period.
00:48:01.900 And then election day is one day period.
00:48:04.400 So during those 11 days, Kim and I are at the polls pretty much if the polls are open.
00:48:12.280 We barely even stopped to eat.
00:48:14.000 We just talked to every voter that we could and exposed them.
00:48:17.880 Plus, we just screamed as loud as we could on Facebook and Twitter.
00:48:23.820 But your video helped immensely because it went viral in Montgomery County.
00:48:28.680 Everybody was clipping it and sharing pieces of it everywhere.
00:48:32.700 We saw it everywhere.
00:48:33.860 You could barely scroll.
00:48:36.340 Your videos were everywhere.
00:48:37.860 So thank you so much.
00:48:39.080 Everybody, they were like, Kim and Wendy are on Bannon.
00:48:42.740 The grassroots conservatives love your show.
00:48:46.180 Well, we love them.
00:48:47.500 We're a platform for you guys.
00:48:48.760 Last thing, I've noticed this in Texas as we down here for the last five weeks or so.
00:48:53.680 There is a, and I don't want to cast aspersions of what happened in Montgomery County.
00:48:57.380 We're going to come and spend more time with you guys.
00:48:59.040 But I've noticed this was the Sharia law issue.
00:49:02.100 The halal food, the real estate, the mosque, the epic city, Colony Ridge.
00:49:08.060 There's an awful lot of money that's being made down here by the business community.
00:49:13.420 There's an awful lot of money being made by establishment people.
00:49:16.860 And it's taken folks like you that want full transparency and full accountability.
00:49:20.460 If you have transparency, Texas is going to reset and things are going to be fine.
00:49:24.600 But as long as you got all this obfuscation and behind closed doors and deals being made,
00:49:30.520 that is the reason Texas is in the shape it's in.
00:49:33.400 It's too many of the business community, the real estate community, these very sophisticated people
00:49:37.260 that want to make big money.
00:49:39.100 And you can see it everywhere up here in North Texas.
00:49:42.200 It's sick.
00:49:42.880 Is that the core?
00:49:43.740 We got about a minute.
00:49:44.520 Is that the core of the problem down there?
00:49:45.880 Yes.
00:49:47.640 In fact, our county sheriff, Wesley Doolittle, when he was running for office,
00:49:53.700 I think they're called the Harris brothers, right?
00:49:57.260 Yes.
00:49:57.720 The people you just mentioned, Colony Ridge, the people who started Colony Ridge,
00:50:06.200 they actually worked the polls for Wesley Doolittle.
00:50:10.800 Yeah, to get him elected as our sheriff.
00:50:13.600 Wow.
00:50:13.880 Okay, guys, we got to bounce.
00:50:15.660 Can we get Wendy, you first? 0.99
00:50:17.600 And then, Kim, can we give you your social media?
00:50:19.900 Where do people stay in touch with you?
00:50:21.200 Because you are now officially heroes for standing in the breach and winning big.
00:50:26.860 Where do people go?
00:50:29.380 Wendy Yockey on Facebook, Wendy Sue Yockey on Facebook, and on Twitter, at Yockey Wendy.
00:50:37.160 Kim?
00:50:37.900 And MCTX GOP Precinct 97.
00:50:42.460 You guys are amazing.
00:50:44.840 You've inspired a lot of people because you represent the best of us.
00:50:50.380 So thank you very much for joining us here in War Room, Texas.
00:50:54.080 Thank you for having us.
00:50:56.660 You know, everywhere we go on the precinct strategy, of course, the Republican establishment beats you up.
00:51:01.340 The Republican establishment doesn't want you there.
00:51:03.260 The business community doesn't want you there.
00:51:04.800 But you stand in the breach and fight and use your agency.
00:51:07.900 They had their backs against the wall.
00:51:09.940 Think about it.
00:51:11.060 Just getting the word out, using their agency, and being tough as boot leather.
00:51:15.160 And don't quit.
00:51:17.840 What did Andy Parchet tell us the other day from Illinois?
00:51:20.440 It's the same everywhere.
00:51:21.440 If you don't quit, you'll win.
00:51:24.040 Now, Wendy Sue and Kim, 65-35, that's a win. 0.78
00:51:30.180 Okay.
00:51:30.900 We're going to leave you.
00:51:32.140 We're going to be back at 10 a.m. tomorrow morning.
00:51:34.660 The show is going to be absolutely packed.
00:51:36.240 We're on track all night.
00:51:38.200 The great Tina Peters.
00:51:39.880 Is she about to get her freedom? 0.53
00:51:41.820 We're going to talk about that first thing in the morning.
00:51:43.640 We've got so much else going on.
00:51:45.220 We'll see you back here in the War Room, 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
00:51:48.820 And I'll be up on get her throughout the evening.
00:51:51.040 Thank you very much for joining us.
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