00:00:29.000I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.000Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.000If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.000War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:00:48.000Friday, 6th of March, Anno Domini, 2026.
00:00:58.000Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.
00:01:02.000Different type of show coming up for you over the next 60 minutes.
00:01:06.000Well, two weeks ago, I was invited to speak in Sydney, Australia, on the theme of the gladiator school fighting to defend the West.
00:01:19.000And this was a keynote speech in a conference organized by a great group of guys called Advance.
00:01:27.000And they've had, in just their eight years worth of existence, quite a number of significant electoral victories.
00:01:34.000And I was delighted, therefore, to fly from the very center of continental Europe, literally to the other side of the earth to talk about the speech and the importance of our Academy for the Judeo-Christian West.
00:01:51.000I delivered a speech, chalk block, as you will see in references to the importance of the Judeo-Christian West.
00:02:00.000This speech, I spent three months working on it, deciding exactly what I was going to say.
00:02:05.000I hope you will appreciate watching it.
00:02:09.000This speech generated more press coverage than any other speech I've ever delivered in my life.
00:02:17.000And you'll probably get a reason why towards the end of the show, as I'm responding to the answers.
00:02:24.000I was invited to walk back certain comments.
00:03:02.000One of the greatest ever historians in the comparative study of civilizations, Arnold Toynbee,
00:03:11.000analyzed the demise of 20 notable civilizations.
00:03:16.000In The Disintegrations of Civilizations, the fifth volume of his 12-volume magnum opus, A Study of History,
00:03:26.000Toynbee noted that of the 21 civilizations he studied, 19 perished not by conquest from without, but by moral decay from within.
00:03:39.000Writing on the eve of the Second World War, Toynbee said,
00:03:47.000I do not believe that civilizations break down through being worsted by their environment.
00:03:56.000I believe that when they do break down, the cause is not some blow from outside, but some inward spiritual failure.
00:04:06.000Some kind of demoralization to which we human beings are not bound to succumb and for which we ourselves, therefore, bear the responsibility.
00:04:19.000Or more simply, to quote his most famous expression,
00:04:25.000Civilizations die by suicide, not by murder.
00:04:31.000So just to reintroduce myself, I know Joe did it, but my name is Ben Harnwell.
00:04:37.000I am the international editor of the number one rated US political show, Steve Bannon's Warren.
00:04:43.000And I gather there is even a representation here in the audience that follows the show.
00:04:48.000Thank you to Advance and specifically to Matthew Sheehan for inviting me here today.
00:04:55.000And thank you to all of you for being here and your attention during this 35 minute presentation.
00:05:01.000And I am going to leave 10 minutes for questions at the end for those of you who especially enjoy making conference speakers squirm in public.
00:05:13.000So, if you can all hear me, if I can move off from the podium for one moment.
00:05:22.000I live in Italy. I've lived in Italy for 15 years.
00:05:25.000In some respects, many respects, one of the great founding contributions to Western civilization.
00:05:34.000Some of you might know, I was involved in running, Joe mentioned it, a monastery, Trisulti.
00:05:43.000I say a little bit, but obviously time is limited.
00:05:46.000It's a complex of some 83,000 square meters.
00:05:51.000But it has 15,000 square meters of roof.
00:05:56.000And in the brief period that I ran that monastery before being so ingloriously kicked out, I learned something about how Italy works and how Italy thinks.
00:06:13.000It has the historic roof tiles on these 15,000 square meters of roof.
00:06:43.000They have to, they're obsessed about the uniformity.
00:06:46.000To add an aside, if you cut down, they're so obsessed by uniformity, by conserving the landscape,
00:06:55.000that if you chop down a tree on your own property under certain conditions, not only can they come and arrest you on the spot for doing so,
00:08:06.000That's what I wanted to come here and share with you today.
00:08:12.000I would like to try to contribute to a change in attitudes and a change in the conversation that we can have publicly,
00:08:24.000where we can say roof tiles are fine, trees are fine, but let's put a little bit of energy into preserving what's going on underneath the roof tiles, right?
00:09:08.000I'm quite libertarian in the sense that I hate paying tax.
00:09:12.000And that's really the starting point of my political philosophy, is that I hate paying tax.
00:09:17.000Because as Ronald Reagan said, I know how government wastes my money.
00:09:20.000So that's the, the second thing is, I think there is an onus of those who are involved in politics, to work towards a society, which is slightly better than the one that they were born into, right?
00:09:35.000You can serve what's important, you know, you have policy experiments, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't work.
00:09:41.000You have the capitalist free market, which is great at moving things forward.
00:09:45.000So there's no reason why a society, you know, if anyone involved in politics after 20 years of contribution, 30 years of contribution to the public good, you're not leaving a society which is slightly better than the one that you inherited.
00:10:00.000And that's not the case anymore, right?
00:10:03.000Because we are now dealing with the first generation in the West, where parents have come to the conclusion that their kids are going to have a worse standard of life than the one that they themselves had.
00:10:16.000And that's, that's unknown throughout the West.
00:10:20.000If I say that the object of politics is to, is to basically make slightly better the society that you yourselves have, have inherited, we failed at that.
00:10:33.000And just to, to, to give an example of the UK, for example, look at housing, because this is really sort of impacting young families and their ability to, to provide responsibly and create the next generation.
00:10:48.000But I think 15 years ago, the average London price for property was four or five times the average salary.
00:11:00.000And this is a, you know, it's not as if Brits are, are accelerating an explosion of, of, of reproducing children.
00:11:11.000This is because there are people coming in to the country that need housing.
00:11:15.000And that's putting the, the, the crisis on property.
00:11:20.000And as Steve Bannon, my boss, likes to say, and I think it's absolutely perfect, that the obsession, and this is a particularly American point of view, but I think it's true right throughout the West.
00:11:30.000It's that our political class has been obsessing with widening trade to the degree that you, the, the, the system, the West has created comfortable,
00:11:44.000thriving middle classes in China and in India at the expense of decimating your own native blue collar workers in your own backyard.
00:12:00.000So we actually have, we've, we've loaded on working families, the double punitive policy goals of flooding the country with, with immigrants.
00:13:28.000Uh, and that is fundamentally the difference.
00:13:30.000And we have to have the courage to be able to say that publicly in order to put a stop with it.
00:13:35.000Now, I personally am of the position that we need a moratorium on invasion, even legal, um, immigration.
00:13:46.000So, we need this moratorium until at least, and you can say this in Australia, we can say this in Italy, say this in the UK, say this in the States, at least until everybody of your native population who wants a job is able to find one.
00:14:03.000So, when you have 100% employment, then you can have conversations about who to bring in and to contribute.
00:14:09.000But you cannot have a situation where you say, well, we'll have the legal set up, the channels set up to apply to come in.
00:14:16.000But if you fail, then just come on the dinghy and come across anyway and we'll give you a hotel.
00:14:21.000We'll give you three square meals a day.
00:15:35.000Well, the contribution that I myself have been involved with is at the Monastery of Trizolti specifically,
00:15:41.000which is the Academy for the Judeo-Christian West, popularly known in the press as Steve Bannon's Gladiator School.
00:15:50.000Now, just to say a few words about that, that project itself grew out of something called the Dignitatis Humanae Institute,
00:15:57.000which I founded in the European Parliament in 2008.
00:16:01.000And that was really created as a project.
00:16:04.000And Dominic Cudmore, who is here, was in Valerius Dominic.
00:16:08.000He was actually sort of a great help in that, sort of what, nearly 20 years ago in getting that project off the ground.
00:16:15.000And Dominic, I'm real surprised to see you here today.
00:16:17.000But I'm very happy to give you a hat tip for your contribution on that.
00:16:22.000And the point about this, why did we set this up?
00:16:25.000Now, the program has evolved somewhat since 2008.
00:16:31.000But fundamentally, it was to put the spine back in to Christian democracy.
00:16:36.000Those were the days when I was slightly more naive and believed that what the centre-right was lacking was spine.
00:16:43.000In fact, I now realise that that's not true at all.
00:16:46.000The centre-right is part of the enemy of defending these values because it's performative.
00:16:52.000It goes through the motions, especially at election time, of dropping the platitudes that we want to hear.
00:16:58.000And the moment they are elected, they get down to betraying us.
00:17:02.000And the point about the betrayal is this.
00:17:05.000I started off with this speech, the note by Toynbee about the 19 out of 21 civilisations dying from within.
00:17:15.000And I'd like to suggest the specific character of our own civilisation, civilisational decline, isn't that we're being defeated from without.
00:17:26.000And it's not that we're imploding from spiritual malaise from within.
00:17:32.000It's that we are being betrayed by our political class.
00:17:36.000And that is, I think, something novel and unique to the present situation.
00:17:41.000So, going back 20 years and the beginnings of the project that we have at Trisolte, it was the idea that the reason we were losing was because Christian democracy had lost its spine.
00:17:56.000In continental Europe, the centre-right is basically Christian Democrats, which is based formally, it's a bit like in Germany, but all across continental Europe.
00:18:10.000It's really based, or claims to be based, on Catholic social teaching.
00:18:14.000In the Anglo-sphere, in Australia, in the UK, the equivalent of the positioning on the political spectrum of centre-right isn't so much Christian democratic, because we're not culturally Catholic countries.
00:18:30.000It's conservatism, which was to take somewhat from what I said at the beginning, the idea of conserving what is good.
00:18:39.000But if you look at the conservative movement in the UK especially, it conserves absolutely nothing.
00:18:47.000It goes through the motions, it calls itself conservative, it says, oh, we're the oldest political party in the world, we're non-ideological.
00:18:54.000But it's imploding now, we are assisting at its suicide, because it has abandoned all pretence of conserving anything, and it's abandoned all pretence of promoting personal liberty.
00:19:08.000It talks the language of Margaret Thatcher, but in every legislative act and amendment it produces, it is a betrayal of Margaret Thatcher.
00:19:16.000And its time has come, and its time has come to end, and it is being replaced in the UK, as we speak by Nigel Farage and Reform UK.
00:19:26.000That broadly is taking off where Margaret Thatcher left off.
00:19:32.000So, coming back to the Dignitatis Humana Institute is the realization that Christian democracy, the center right, isn't capable of defending those things that we really care so much about.
00:19:47.000Culture, values, community, the Judeo-Christian tradition, to use the American term.
00:19:54.000And one of the chief, you know, I mentioned that the Christian democracy in Europe is based on Catholic social teaching.
00:20:05.000And I have said I am a Catholic, a bad one, but I am a Catholic.
00:20:11.000And I have to, don't mistake what I'm going to say now, because I'm going to attack the institutional church, the Vatican.
00:20:19.000I am not anti-Catholic. I am anti-these people, these sociopaths, who somehow have been able over the last 60 years to hijack the institution of the Catholic Church and run it into the ground.
00:20:34.000They call me in Italy, they say I am anti-Catholic.
00:20:37.000And it's ironic that these people who loathe the Catholic faith, right, they're pellets, they're bishops, they're cardinals.
00:20:46.000These people who loathe and have made it their lives work to destroy the Catholic Church call me and Steve Bannon and our collaborators anti-Catholic.
00:20:57.000That is the supreme irony, because we are trying to defend the Christian basis, the Catholic basis of continental Europe.
00:21:07.000This is something that John Paul II had correctly intuited, that the heart of culture is cult.
00:21:14.000OK. So you can put, you know, you can defend Western society with the Western liberal tradition, but that comes out of something.
00:21:21.000It didn't just emerge out of nothing. It comes out of the precepts that arise out of the Christian faith.
00:21:27.000And if I will make this suggestion, but only very lightly today, if you really want to defend Western civilization,
00:21:33.000we need to have a more strong and confident and muscular presence of Christianity in the public square.
00:21:40.000And that is more necessary now than ever, because there is, nature abhors a vacuum.
00:21:46.000There is, in our public life in the West, the presence of a strong, muscular religious tradition, but it's Islam.
00:21:53.000And we at least need to be able to rise ourselves to the level of their game if we're going to try to beat them, right?
00:22:00.000So I have to name, I have to say that in pretty much all of the existential crises that the West faces today,
00:22:14.000there is the presence of the Vatican, and that is taking the wrong side on every one of these existential issues,
00:22:21.000including and especially the invasion.
00:22:24.000It's behaving, the institutional church, which is, as far as I'm concerned, not the church,
00:22:29.000that it's not the mystical body of Jesus Christ, not the people who are running the Catholic Church.
00:22:35.000They are obsessed, and I don't know why, well, I do know because they're getting a lot of money out of this,
00:22:41.000but they are absolutely obsessed about promoting the invasion.
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00:31:39.000So, moving on, the institutional Catholic Church, then, is really part of the enemy.
00:31:46.000And that's why, to come back to our project at Trisulti, it's one of the things that we would like to try to do and suggest that the defense of the Judeo-Christian West, the specifically Christian part of that, the specifically Catholic part of that, falls to us as the laity.
00:32:04.000We cannot rely on the bishops and the cardinals or the so-called popes to defend the culture that means so much to us because these people are sworn enemies of that, and we have to take that back.
00:32:18.000And it's something that we say on the show constantly that one of our roles is to empower the laity to take back the running of the church from the people who are running the church into the ground.
00:32:30.000And I will mention this example once, right, because I say that it's ridiculous that the laity has no right in the nomination of bishops, and that's really how the popes exercise their grip on the worldwide Catholic Church.
00:32:47.000I say that, and they say, oh, Hanwell, you're just a Protestant, right?
00:32:56.000In China, the Vatican signed this secret deal, which is so horrific they won't even let us see what's in it, right?
00:33:04.000But we know that that deal, that Vatican-CCP pact, gives the CCP the authority to nominate Catholic bishops, right?
00:33:14.000So just let that sink in for a moment.
00:33:19.000Those of you who are Catholic here, who are pillars of your community, your parish, you go to Mass every Sunday.
00:33:25.000You have no say in who your bishop is, because that's Protestant.
00:33:29.000In China, the generals who spend all day, all their working day, pulling down churches and persecuting Christians, right, they go to the office at the end of the day, and they sign a nomination form for the bishop.
00:33:40.000That's allowed. That is how much contempt the institutional Catholic Church has for all of us, okay?
00:33:47.000They have contempt for us, and when we go asking for bread, we don't get a fist, we don't get a stone, we get the middle finger.
00:34:02.000That's not acceptable, and that is why there is the necessity, not only for movements like what we're doing in Italy, which is the gladiator school for nationalists.
00:34:14.000It's the reason why the iterations of this populist nationalist movement right across the world, specifically here in Australia, advance, are absolutely essential for the preservation of the country that you look so much.
00:34:30.000And that brings me here to the closing part of my remarks today, which is that those of us who come from continental Europe, from the UK, we have a role on the world stage now when it comes to defending the Judeo-Christian West.
00:34:47.000That role is primarily to warn other nations who haven't yet followed this road to the very end, like Australia, like America.
00:35:00.000This is where that road leads to, do not follow it, right?
00:35:04.000Because if there's any doubt, if you believe that the platitudes that are pushed out by a uniparty political class, you'll think that it's all peace and harmony.
00:35:15.000I was going through, and it's not true, right?
00:35:18.000I'm just going to throw this one out here, because I love this story.
00:35:21.000It really illustrates all that is wrong with continental Europe.
00:35:24.000In Germany, a few years ago, there was this asylum seeker, an Iraqi, in his 30s, who raped a 13-year-old boy in the swimming pool, the public baths, right?
00:35:38.000And his defence was that he had a sexual emergency.
00:35:55.000That, for me, just epitomises everything that is wrong with people who are choosing for themselves to come into the West.
00:36:02.000So don't believe, don't give heed to your sociopathic overlords who will call you intolerant or lacking in compassion or xenophobic or what have you.
00:36:13.000That kind of thing, if you look in the European press, that kind of story is literally routine.
00:36:19.000It's happening every day, right across the West.
00:36:22.000Australia has already started down that path, but it is not nearly as destroyed, as irrecoverable as it is in the UK.
00:36:36.000So, invasion, then, is the beating heart of the populist nationalist movement right across the world.
00:36:47.000It's the reason why what these political parties are like, the AFD in Germany or VOX in Spain or Fratelli d'Italia, which I don't have much time for in Italy.
00:36:57.000All these parties termed conventionally far-right, one like 2.5% ten years ago, and they're now on 25% right across Europe.
00:37:09.000A lot of these parties, like Marine Le Pen in France with the Rassemblement National, that's a left-wing political party.
00:37:16.000But the one on everything is a left-wing political party.
00:37:20.000On every metric, apart from immigration.
00:37:23.000It's the immigration point which is the dividing line now between the populist nationalist iterations, of which advance here in Australia is the local, the national manifestation,
00:37:37.000and all the uniparty, all the other political parties.
00:37:41.000It's the immigration that is the one issue.
00:37:43.000I'll give an example of how badly the centre-right is betraying its people by looking at Portugal.
00:37:49.000Last week, they had the presidential election over there, and they had the runoff between Chegas, which is the far-right political party, and the socialists.
00:38:00.000And the centre-right, the Christian Democrats, told its voters to vote for the guy on the left, to block the guy on the far-right.
00:38:08.000The guy on the far-right, not Andre Ventura, not a fascist, not remotely, anti-immigration.
00:38:16.000This is the one issue that they, for some reason, that they are absolutely destroyed.
00:38:21.000The French call the concept ethnic substitution or ethnic replacement.
00:38:25.000I don't know how accurate that is in reality, but if you went along assuming that that is the case and that is the objective,
00:38:32.000you probably wouldn't go too far off the mark.
00:38:35.000I want to say on the show that we call the Uniparty, our political masters,
00:38:44.000the term we use on Steve Bannon's wall is our sociopathic overlords.
00:38:48.000I hope I indicated at the beginning why I think these people are sociopaths.
00:38:53.000If I can just divert my closing words here just to indicate that these people are fundamentally behind the betrayal
00:39:03.000that I mentioned earlier as being the reason for the demise of Western civilisation.
00:39:09.000If that sounds like conspiracy theory or a bit extreme, cast your minds back to the pandemic.
00:39:16.000Look how they looked us in the eye and lied to us about the nature of the virus.
00:39:24.000They are still lying to us today and all they can do is gaslight us about it.
00:39:32.000If you think it's extreme to say that they were lying over the virus, look how they were lying over the vaccine.
00:39:38.000And how they are lying to this day saying that it was perfectly effective and perfectly safe.
00:39:44.000They were gaslighting us. They're gaslighting us today.
00:39:47.000I know more people who died of that vaccine person.
00:39:50.000I personally know more people who died of that vaccine than I know who died of the virus.
00:47:50.000Ideologically, I mean, I just said that the great â that the invasion is taking place under the centre-right.
00:47:55.000Politically, though, it tends to benefit more of the centre-left because it's providing them with voters on the line.
00:48:02.000To be absolutely cynical about it, it's providing them with people who will use the state's services.
00:48:08.000They're not filling the country with people who want to stand on their own two feet and, as I said, to assimilate and to contribute.
00:48:14.000They're filling â the left is filling the country with its own client base.
00:48:21.000But it is weird because, from a left-wing perspective, if you are motivated by protecting the worker, the labourer, the blue-collar worker, your industrial base,
00:48:33.000why are you trying to â as a political party that says that you're on the left â
00:48:38.000why are you trying to fill the country with labour, with cheap labour that's only going to drive wages down?
00:48:45.000Why would you do that to your own supporter base?
00:48:48.000So, of course, the disillusionment is taking place on the left as well because they realise that they're being betrayed.
00:48:54.000Just as the centre-right people â and I think everyone in this room is centre-right.
00:48:57.000I don't think there's anyone here that is what the media would call far-right.
00:49:04.000I think the same thing is taking place on the left.
00:49:06.000People are going to alternatives because they realise that they have no interests that will be protected and defended with any passion.
00:49:15.000You'll get the performative gestures by the centre-left iterations.
00:49:45.000Could you speak to â about a year ago, there was a video of these Muslim men, all wearing black, who were in Melbourne and they encircled the cathedral there.
00:50:00.000That's â I mean, I see that as pure intimidation, where they were praying, or I don't know what they were doing, but they encircled the cathedral.
00:50:10.000Can you â can you speak to that, please?
00:50:13.000Yeah, how dare they? Right? How dare they do it? How dare they do it and how dare they be allowed to do it? Right?
00:50:23.000Because we wouldn't be able to do that over there. Right? At the very least, we should be insisting on reciprocity. Okay? At the very least.
00:50:39.000That is to say, we'll show you, we'll extend the same welcome to Muslims in the West as Muslims extend to Christians over there. Or not? Well, what's wrong with that?
00:50:54.000Reciprocity has to be the starting point now. You're never going to get that from the centre-right.
00:50:59.000You certainly won't get it from the centre-left. But you will get it for these new movements that are occupying the space that was abandoned by the centre-right,
00:51:08.000as the centre-right pivoted to betraying its own people. So I couldn't agree â you know, I don't know if that answers you.
00:51:16.000My point is, it's outrage. But it's what I said, right? These people aren't coming to assimilate. They're not coming to contribute.
00:51:24.000They are coming to conquer. They're coming because they expect us to yield to them and their sensibilities.
00:51:31.000And they expect us to yield to them and their sensibilities because they've been encouraged to expect that by the people who've ushered them into the country. It's disgusting.
00:51:46.000So there you go, folks. You've just heard probably the most spicy speech I've ever given in my life.
00:51:54.000We'll get that out on our various social media channels. Do post your comments on Getter, especially at Harnwell, where I've read every single comment that's ever been posted.
00:52:05.000That's it, folks. Show's over. We'll be back with our Standard Christian Show on Wednesday of next week.
00:52:11.000Steve will be back at 10 a.m. in the morning in the chair.
00:52:14.000Thanks very much to Will and his crack team in Denver at Real America's Voice.
00:52:19.000And enjoy the rest of your day. God bless for now.
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