Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 966： “Trad Inc” Increasingly Nervous That Traditionalists Consecrate New Bishops Without Papal Mandate

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00:00:44.860 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:54.340 Good evening. Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room.

00:00:58.440 It's that time once again in the week when we review all things to do with Christianity, Protestants, Catholicism.

00:01:07.080 That's taken place over the last seven days with me, the usual stalwart members of the team, Frank Walker, Jenny Holland.

00:01:16.820 Good evening to you both.

00:01:19.600 Hello.

00:01:20.240 of it's an enthusiastic and it's a real energetic uh great okay so we're going to start look

00:01:30.080 first a couple of things i want to say because i do read the responses that come in on social

00:01:35.440 media we are doing this show not because we are anti-catholic or because we hate the catholic

00:01:41.920 church but because we love the catholic faith um and have perhaps to varying degrees on various

00:01:49.880 varying occasions a sentimental attachment to the institution of the church but um

00:01:54.900 what this is fundamentally a service we hope to the church um and i would suggest that one of the

00:02:03.040 great obstacles to the possibility of the church evangelizing the secular society

00:02:10.200 right throughout the west is the phenomenon phenomenon of the the sex abuse scandal the

00:02:17.500 clerical sex abuse scandal against kids that had been taking place over many decades which

00:02:23.640 came to life right came to light around what 20 25 years ago uh and one of the things that most

00:02:30.280 damages damaged the catholic church's credibility was the silence now many people stayed silent

00:02:37.800 when they might have had a suspicion of what was going on.

00:02:43.740 Because they believe that talking about these things,

00:02:46.620 bringing them out into the light,

00:02:48.120 would fundamentally damage the church's credibility.

00:02:52.420 And their desire was fundamentally that.

00:02:56.900 I think with the benefit of hindsight,

00:03:00.000 we can see that that silence, that institutional silence,

00:03:03.180 Even the moving around of priests from one parish to another, rather than just kicking them out and going to the police.

00:03:14.620 That has been, with the benefit of hindsight, a catastrophic mistake.

00:03:21.520 and i think it's fair to say that here on the war room we don't wish to perpetuate the the same

00:03:29.360 mistakes of saying staying silent when we see things in the church which is wrong and that is

00:03:34.660 why we are called in the spirit of charity and truth to talk about these things and things and

00:03:40.820 try to pull the church back to the narrow path i'm just saying that because some people um especially

00:03:48.360 on Rumble seem to think that we have an impetus, an anti-Catholic impetus. And of course, nothing

00:03:53.800 could be further from the truth. The real people in our crosshairs are, of course, the anti-Catholic

00:03:59.320 hierarchs who are dragging our church into the ground. So folks, having said that, it 1.00

00:04:09.260 is clear that in times of crisis, heroes emerge. And Frank Walker, it seems to me that one

00:04:16.200 One hero that is ever clearly, ever clearer, a pastor who is not abandoning the flock to the wolves is Bishop Schneider, who said something in a private meeting, and you're going to tell us a bit about it now, a couple of days ago, on the subject of something that we've been discussing every week here on the War Room,

00:04:40.040 which is the imminent episcopal consecrations of the Society of Pope Pius X,

00:04:47.320 he suggested, because it has been mentioned, that if the Lefebvreists, the SSPX,

00:04:54.420 if they go ahead with these episcopal consecrations, that will incur latte sentenciae excommunication,

00:05:01.400 automatic excommunications, because bishops are consecrating other bishops without a papal mandate.

00:05:07.380 And into this debate entered Bishop Schneider. And he did agree. He was speaking in a private meeting, but he did agree to the publication of his private remarks.

00:05:26.040 And Frank Walker, Bishop Schneider, says that from his point of view, and this is quite a strong thing to say, very courageous thing to say, very true thing to say, right?

00:05:39.680 And it gives an indication of where we are in the Catholic Church, that it requires a degree of courage to say things which are true.

00:05:47.340 But he said, should the church respond and announce excommunications, either late sentence excommunications, and say that those excommunications have already taken place, or if it should proactively proceed with punitive excommunications, they would not be valid.

00:06:04.760 And that is, as I say, a very courageous thing for Bishop Schneider to do, who's not from a world-important primatial diocese out in Astana, I think it is, in Kazakhstan.

00:06:24.060 all the more brave I think Frank Walker

00:06:28.000 because most or all of the cardinals

00:06:32.360 that had been showing a bit of ankle to trads

00:06:35.460 over the last 5-10 years

00:06:36.680 have basically publicly urged the SSPX

00:06:39.360 not to go through with these episcopal consecrations

00:06:43.140 which the SSPX says it's necessary to continue its mission

00:06:46.000 tell us please

00:06:47.840 put what Bishop Schneider said in its context

00:06:52.860 and give me your thoughts and reflections to that, please.

00:06:57.800 Well, I think Bishop Snyder was surprisingly positive

00:07:02.200 about the SSPX consecrations.

00:07:05.980 In every respect, he sort of agreed with them.

00:07:10.860 I'm cynical, you know, I'm cynical,

00:07:12.960 but because Bishop Snyder, way back years ago,

00:07:17.260 when Francis was on the scene and there was a lot of discussion

00:07:20.460 about Francis's validity since Benedict had really had abdicated, which is very, very unusual.

00:07:28.080 And he was always defending Benedict's validity in the face of a lot of different evidence and

00:07:32.580 poo-pooing it. That's his past. But here he's been very positive about the SSPX. And he did say

00:07:39.480 that the excommunications might not be valid in some respects, he said. And that is very brave

00:07:46.840 And true. I think it's true. And the last time that there was an excommunication for this, they were lifted. And so he's not contradicting Pope Benedict here. But I think if he had gone and he said those excommunications directly, those excommunications will be invalid, then he would get the Archbishop Vigano treatment.

00:08:07.860 So he's avoided that. I think that there's so much politically going on here with this. This situation is really frightening for Leo Church, and they're pulling out all the stops, everything that they possibly can to keep their project of Leo Church together, keep it from falling apart.

00:08:32.200 For some reason, it seems like, you know, the little SSPX is really terrifying to the machine, to the machine that gave us the Vatican II Church and Leo and Francis now.

00:08:44.380 And they really don't want it to damage the church.

00:08:47.600 But this piece that you mentioned here at 1 Peter 5, which was 1 Peter 5 was founded by a guy who eventually left the faith.

00:08:57.240 And it was sort of a disgraced paper by the time it was over.

00:09:01.460 And then it was bought up by Crisis Magazine and bought up by Trad Inc.

00:09:06.840 One Peter Five is a Trad Inc. operation.

00:09:09.640 And I see this piece here about Bishop Schneider highlighting it to be mainly a Trad Inc.

00:09:14.540 sort of a therapy session to try to keep people on site with the SSPX and the whole Trad movement all together in one big pile.

00:09:24.500 They're afraid that they're going to lose the traditionalist movement with all of this that's going on.

00:09:28.960 And the editor of 1 Peter 5 here is sort of trying to soothe us and make us relax and worry, not worry about it so much.

00:09:38.880 It's in God's hands.

00:09:40.260 You don't want to be like the devil.

00:09:41.840 You don't want to attack Cardinal Mueller and Cardinal Seurat.

00:09:46.580 You want to remember we're all in this movement together.

00:09:49.900 Don't be the circular firing squad.

00:09:51.720 You know, whenever they say that, what they really mean is don't shoot me.

00:09:55.180 that should be the the uh the motto of trad inc don't shoot me because like you said it's the

00:10:01.320 perpetrators who should be punished not the whistleblowers that's how you open with here

00:10:05.860 don't um don't shoot me and don't forget to donate um exactly so you so you look um let's

00:10:16.280 just look we've got a couple of minutes before i do an ad read here um one of the great strategies

00:10:22.680 that Trad Inc. has pivoted to in these times,

00:10:26.780 along with the Give Leo Time mantra,

00:10:30.760 is the idea that consecrating without the Pope's consent

00:10:40.140 is a schismatic act, and that's probably the worst thing

00:10:43.320 that could possibly happen right now.

00:10:45.160 So let's encourage the dialogue between the SSPX

00:10:48.960 and Smoochie Fernandez, I have a different view, Frank Walker.

00:10:54.680 I have a different view.

00:10:56.080 I think that in as far as it's true that schism is a devastating phenomenon

00:11:05.540 in the life of the mystical body of Jesus Christ,

00:11:09.140 the schism has already taken place.

00:11:10.660 The schism is the modernism embraced by 99% of the church hierarchy.

00:11:16.480 They are the ones in schism and the Lefebvreists who are consecrating in order to protect the integrity of the unchangeable and unchanging Catholic faith. 0.79

00:11:29.700 That is actually not that's not the damage of schism.

00:11:32.920 That's the remedy to the schism that the modernist post-conciliar church has has been inflicting on the faithful over the last 65 or so years.

00:11:44.740 You mentioned Cardinal Moulin, Cardinal Serra, who were both considered to be, in some quarters, to have been great stalwarts and defenders of traditional Catholicism.

00:12:01.660 Cardinal Zinn has made an intervention.

00:12:03.980 Now, I have more sympathy for various reasons when it comes to Cardinal Zinn, sentimental reasons, and I'm sort of prepared to give him just a little bit more leeway.

00:12:12.420 but he has himself made an intervention on this.

00:12:15.300 Just before I do the ad read,

00:12:16.600 could you just summarize for our viewers

00:12:18.520 what Cardinal Zen has said?

00:12:22.480 Well, Cardinal Zen is just like Bishop Snyder

00:12:25.520 is very complimentary, sort of flattering with them.

00:12:29.200 But he's just like he did with the China policy for Francis.

00:12:33.940 He blamed it all on Cardinal Parolin.

00:12:35.900 Try to think he's blaming everything

00:12:37.360 on Cardinal Kissy Fernandez of the DDF.

00:12:39.740 And he's saying, go to Francis.

00:12:42.420 go to francis when it comes to vatican ii which which tradink must preserve vatican ii it's part

00:12:49.700 of the um it has to be held together it cannot be dropped and when they come to you about the

00:12:54.220 doctrines in vatican ii go to leo leo is a good listener this is cardinal zan's messages it's

00:13:00.760 disappointing really it's disappointing but it's not surprising because this is really how cardinal

00:13:05.100 zan handled the the betrayal in china everything was very very good very helpful very positive

00:13:11.840 and very supportive except when it came to the solution the solution is the pope or the leo or

00:13:19.180 the francis that's a summary i think of what cardinal zetta is telling them um yeah uh he

00:13:25.880 said that uh go to go to leo leo is a father um well that that wouldn't be you know i'm not a

00:13:33.640 cardinal um well and that wouldn't be my advice um i'm extra as you are frank walker you uh we are

00:13:41.080 on the show extremely vigilant regarding leo and his governorship of the church we have been

00:13:47.760 since day one um because we quite i think quite correctly i think each passing month is um

00:13:55.600 validating our original judgment call that leo is bergoglio 2.0 more intelligent more subtle and

00:14:04.520 more dangerous okay standby frank we'll be coming back to you um in about 20 minutes we're going to

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00:15:58.440 Jenny Holland, we often say on The War Room

00:16:01.780 that it's no longer true or accurate to refer to the UK

00:16:08.320 as a post-Christian society.

00:16:11.620 It's more accurate to call it a pre-Islamic society. 0.99

00:16:14.740 Some people think that that's scare tactics.

00:16:18.100 Some people think it's an exaggeration.

00:16:19.980 and yet attentive readers of the daily newspapers will know it's a pretty accurate indication of

00:16:27.620 what's happening um you know what before we hear from you on this one before we hear from

00:16:33.960 you on what's happened in the uk in the north of england with the educational authorities let's

00:16:38.600 start off with a bit of good news because not only did you flag up this article that you wanted

00:16:43.640 to share with the woman posse today you also flagged up this this this good news coming out

00:16:48.160 from new york so so kyle if you wouldn't mind let's just quickly have the footage and we'll 0.96

00:16:54.680 carry on with jenny absolutely packed packed i just came out of my ass there and oh my god it 0.91

00:17:03.200 was wedged shout out to st joe's and you all know that i do talk about st joe's this particular mass 0.97

00:17:08.820 and it's for young adults on sundays at 6 p.m this evening i think it was generally there was

00:17:13.280 But well over 1,000 people at us.

00:17:15.580 It was the most I've seen yet.

00:17:17.160 And I seen a stat earlier in the week that said young adults between 25 and 30,

00:17:22.140 both in male and female, are up over 1,000% in the last couple of years.

00:17:26.960 I think it was four to five years.

00:17:28.100 That is an absolutely insane stat.

00:17:30.140 And I will say this evening was particularly full of young ones.

00:17:34.480 And it was that busy that I was there well early,

00:17:38.540 and I couldn't even get a seat downstairs.

00:17:40.020 I was sitting upstairs, and it was wedged.

00:17:41.700 So, shout out to St. Joe's for doing a great job every Sunday.

00:17:46.020 But shout out to all you young adults that are getting back into your faith.

00:17:49.380 I think it's a great thing. It grounds you, it gives you something to hold on to,

00:17:52.740 it gives you something to help you out when you're either doing well,

00:17:55.540 when you're not doing well and when you need that bit of faith to rely on.

00:17:59.220 So shout out to all you young adults.

00:18:01.140 I purposely don't take any pictures or videos in the chapel

00:18:03.940 because I haven't asked the priest if I can do that yet or not.

00:18:06.420 So I'm not going to until they give me the okay.

00:18:09.060 But I wanted to show you what it was like inside.

00:18:12.020 It was absolutely wedged.

00:18:14.260 And I'll pass the priest first up.

00:18:17.760 Well, Jenny, thanks for flagging that up.

00:18:20.140 And you really are one of the great analysts on the phenomenon that is taking place amongst Gen Z right now.

00:18:27.740 Male 20-year-old cohort of Gen Z.

00:18:30.640 That statistic is absolutely astonishing.

00:18:32.780 1,000% increase of this church in the United States.

00:18:37.500 It's a split screen, isn't it, from what we've just seen on that video in the United States and the renaissance in the seriousness of Catholic church going in the youth to what is happening in our dear old beloved UK.

00:18:55.820 okay um tell us a bit this is an astonishing story tell us a bit about the kowtowing behind 0.99

00:19:02.320 the british education and authorities and the councils uh having been warned

00:19:09.980 that um teachers teaching school kids how to paint to draw dancing to music this is all um harem

00:19:21.500 in um in islam this is all against sharia law what's been the response to this it's an outrageous 0.95

00:19:27.940 story yeah yeah so as you all know i'm coming in hot from the um soon-to-be islamic republican

00:19:36.100 of great britain and northern ireland today and uh yeah it seems to be accelerating somewhat

00:19:42.400 these um stories that are coming out fast and furious about the growing political clout of the

00:19:50.180 muslim demographic in the united kingdom and most recently well we had two stories back to back

00:19:55.860 first was this story coming from the north of england where local councils have warned schools

00:20:01.460 not to uh approach or to to beware of um allowing the school children to produce blasphemous work

00:20:12.840 such as drawing the human form um and there was a little side bar as well on music uh where they

00:20:19.960 said, well, of course you can't not have music, but Islamic music only allows voice and something

00:20:27.700 about drums. I'm not an expert. So schools now are expected to be sensitive to Islamic children's 1.00

00:20:40.120 faith and not be asked to do anything that they would consider blasphemous. So that's on the one

00:20:46.840 hand right then we have the british government which really doesn't know its rear end from its 0.96

00:20:53.760 elbow at this point saying that um they're not going to do a blasphemy law there's no way no

00:21:01.680 no blasphemy we're not going to reintroduce blasphemy blasphemy blasphemy laws were banned

00:21:06.200 in the united kingdom um but what we will do they say is we are going to uh appoint an anti uh a

00:21:15.160 Sorry. Hey, what is it? An anti-Muslim hostility czar or commissar, probably a better term, a commissar to make sure that no one is being mean to Muslims.

00:21:28.440 So on the one hand, it's definitely nothing to do with blasphemy. You understand, Ben. OK, I want to be very clear. It's not about blasphemy. It's about anti-Muslim hostility.

00:21:37.920 So although if you are a teacher in the north of England, they are explicitly using the word blasphemy as in these reports, warning teachers not to do not to teach blasphemous or assign blasphemous classwork.

00:21:52.240 And important to note, one of the schools in the catchment area of the councils that have been putting these documents out got into a terrible, terrible situation a few years ago when a, I think it was a secondary school teacher, a British, an English guy, showed a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad in a class.

00:22:14.240 And that man had to go into hiding where he still is with his family on pain of death.

00:22:21.440 So we have currently a British man, citizen, hiding from essentially, you know, a religious edict calling for his death in the British Isles.

00:22:32.240 A British citizen is living under this restriction, under this fear of death.

00:22:38.900 So this new document, though, it's been leaked to the spectator.

00:22:44.240 And it's a 46-page, 47-page, what's it called, cohesion strategy that is calling for the appointment of this witch finder general.

00:22:56.240 So, so many things. I think the document is called Protecting What Matters.

00:23:02.060 Seems like an attempt to me, Jenny Holland, to codify appeasement on behalf of the growing Islamic militancy in the UK. 0.83

00:23:13.220 That case you were referring to about that school teacher, by the way, to grammar school up in the north of England, that took place in 2021, so that's what, five years ago now, and he's still in hiding because he had made the mistake of encouraging his pupils to draw the prophet Muhammad.

00:23:37.180 A couple of things here, because teachers have also been warned not to ask students to, they're saying don't reproduce images of the Prophet Muhammad or other figures considered to be prophets in Islam.

00:23:55.100 But that, of course, includes Jesus Christ as well.

00:23:58.740 So teachers are being encouraged to encourage their students

00:24:04.020 not to draw our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, in the UK.

00:24:09.120 We're not talking about Dubai or any sort of Islamabad

00:24:16.480 or any kind of Islam.

00:24:17.440 We're talking about the UK.

00:24:18.940 Though, of course, the distinction is becoming ever more difficult to observe.

00:24:24.440 So what does that say? What does that say to you, Jenny Holland, that in the north of England, children are not allowed to draw pictures of Jesus Christ now because of Islamic sensibilities?

00:24:36.520 Well, let's let's think this through. What do children in the UK do every December?

00:24:42.040 Everyone gets involved in Christmas celebrations and Christmas and nativity plays and Christmas decorations and all of this stuff.

00:24:50.220 And what is Christmas about?

00:24:52.320 Christmas is about the birth of Jesus.

00:24:54.180 So are we going to have little white children in Northern English primary schools being terrified to draw a crown or draw other representations of the baby Jesus in case they get a fatwa put on them?

00:25:08.940 Or they're told by a headmaster somewhere or some sort of schoolmarm that they're very close to being blasphemers against the prophet Muhammad.

00:25:17.280 I mean, this is completely unsustainable.

00:25:19.640 Where is the Church of England on this, by the way? This is a Christian country. This is not a country that was founded like the United States, you know, as a republic. We are a Christian monarchy in name only at this point, but they haven't gone through the trouble of changing the name.

00:25:35.860 So we are still de facto that we have that heritage.

00:25:41.740 And the fact that it's being, I wouldn't even say chipped away, I would say demolished with a sledgehammer and a chainsaw at this point. 0.94

00:25:51.260 So to recap, we are going to have a anti-Muslim blasphemy, anti-Muslim hostility commissar.

00:25:59.120 Children in the north of England are not going to be allowed to draw pictures of baby Jesus.

00:26:03.480 um and we have a teacher still in hiding because on pain of death he he did something that was not

00:26:11.120 acceptable that was a crime against the muslim religion if you want to live under muslim 1.00

00:26:15.540 religious standards move to a muslim religious country and that's not england 0.92

00:26:19.820 well you'll just stay in england because it will be a muslim country uh within our own lifetimes 1.00

00:26:26.760 this is i'm reading this right look give me um 10 seconds because we're going to the break now

00:26:31.600 But this is, in the UK, this is an Islamoflex, right? 0.99

00:26:36.540 This is the Islamic community showing their muscle with the British establishment, right? 1.00

00:26:42.140 So that the Brits can feel duly cowed and oppressed.

00:26:46.180 It's actually kind of worse because the full document, as mentioned by The Spectator,

00:26:53.520 also says that Islamism is the main...

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00:31:26.820 Well, for those of you sitting on the edge of your seats waiting to hear the rest of what Jenny Holland was saying, stand by.

00:31:33.020 We're back to her in about five, 10 minutes time where she's going to continue the theme that she was mentioning.

00:31:39.080 In the meantime, Frank Walker, is it a surprise to you that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has lobbied SCOTUS via the Supreme Court of the United States

00:31:51.520 via a formal amicus briefing, lobbying in favour of the preservation of birthright,

00:32:01.560 again, inverted commas, birthright, citizenship for invaders, anchor babies.

00:32:10.320 This is in response to, I think it's an executive order that President Trump signed.

00:32:15.000 Back on the first day of him resuming office back in 2025, suggesting, ordering the federal government not to recognize citizenship of children, of parents who were present illegally in the United States.

00:32:39.380 This has obviously gone to the Supreme Court, hence the present situation.

00:32:43.320 Tell me a bit, why is the Catholic Church, which ought to be a vehicle for spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ,

00:32:52.700 why is the Catholic Church getting involved in this?

00:32:56.000 And what did it say in its amicus briefing?

00:32:59.640 This is their grift.

00:33:02.240 This is where they make an awful lot of money.

00:33:05.220 And it's not surprising.

00:33:06.700 You know, since they're filing bankruptcy over abuse charges all over the place, you would think they wouldn't be able to afford to spend so much time at the Supreme Court.

00:33:17.340 Seems like it would be kind of expensive. And they're happy to go to the courts on every little procedural monkey wrench that they can throw into the way ICE operates, taking away their control, their local control, making sure that they have to permit them to do all sorts of things.

00:33:37.820 Everything they possibly could do to slow down and stifle the deportations that are happening, they'll do.

00:33:45.540 So this is this birthright citizenship puts puts a stops them from saying you're separating families.

00:33:53.820 They love to say how, oh, they're separating families and they love to talk about the children.

00:33:59.140 But they really don't ever have a case.

00:34:02.280 Birthright citizenship has been going on in the United States for, I think, over 100 years now.

00:34:06.440 It came with the 14th Amendment. It was about slavery, but it isn't really, you know, inherent to the Constitution.

00:34:14.160 But the bishops, it wouldn't make any difference. Their points are never really legal.

00:34:19.800 Their points are human dignity. Their points are what they would call moral.

00:34:24.020 You know, and since none of them are Catholic, they really aren't in any kind of position to make Catholic points.

00:34:28.540 They say it's against the equality of peoples because they're favoring citizens over non-citizens, and they're taking that to the Supreme Court.

00:34:39.220 But what about citizens' rights?

00:34:41.180 They don't care about that.

00:34:42.220 What about the citizens' dignity?

00:34:43.540 They never address that.

00:34:47.300 There's some people at the Heritage Foundation that says it's always a one-way street with this human dignity argument that they have at the court.

00:34:56.380 And, you know, they're more about political statements than moral ones.

00:35:02.560 That's the case of the people against us.

00:35:04.140 And they also say it's something that's fundamental to all societies.

00:35:07.780 And it's and it's fundamentally Catholic.

00:35:09.760 But most Catholic countries don't even have birthright citizenship.

00:35:13.000 Only some countries have it.

00:35:14.580 The Vatican doesn't have it, for example.

00:35:17.300 You know, they really and to the Islamization point that you're talking about, it's happening in the United States extremely quickly. 0.98

00:35:25.120 and the bombers at the recent

00:35:27.340 outside, Gracie Manch, you know the story of these

00:35:29.180 young men with homemade bombs

00:35:31.140 those men were brought in from

00:35:33.140 Afghanistan with the help of Catholic 0.85

00:35:35.060 charities and they're living

00:35:37.320 one of them lives in like almost a three million

00:35:39.260 dollar house, you know

00:35:40.900 and the Islamization 0.73

00:35:43.600 is happening, they're setting up

00:35:45.240 Sharia courts and all kinds of other cases

00:35:47.180 to support this, they're just

00:35:49.120 in union with that, they're making

00:35:51.120 all that happen, the

00:35:53.180 bishops themselves

00:35:55.120 So I've got two points to make. Oh, three points. I'm going to respond to something that you said.

00:35:59.540 I think the administration is going to eventually make the argument that the 14th Amendment was primarily concerned with ensuring that former slaves who were freed after the Civil War would have the full recognition of being U.S. citizens.

00:36:21.080 and there's a very strong argument that it wasn't about granting the 14th amendment wasn't about

00:36:28.920 granting citizenship to anybody who was born in the united states because there was there's the

00:36:36.200 famous clause about subject to the jurisdiction thereof which indicates of course that citizens

00:36:41.660 of other countries or have you diplomats etc etc who have children don't automatically get the

00:36:50.320 citizenship um but there are two immediate responses to um to this story and the first

00:36:58.600 is to warn faithful catholics hapless catholics to some extent but faithful american catholics

00:37:05.460 that this is where your collection plate money is going you might be putting that money in the

00:37:10.060 collection plate for the winning of your parish church for getting flowers for the altar for the

00:37:14.960 feeding of the poor what have you but this is going to pay lawyers to present these amicus

00:37:19.840 briefings at the supreme court so you can ask yourself in the recesses of your own conscience

00:37:26.220 whether you think your money your donut collection plate money is being well spent by the hierarchy

00:37:30.820 my more fundamental point frank and i'll just hand back to you on this one is that if you look

00:37:36.380 as you say and you did expound what the um what the catholic church's argument is to do with the

00:37:42.900 sort of the inherent dignity of individuals being made in the image and likeness of god and all the

00:37:46.540 rest of it um the arguments that the catholic church is the the institutional catholic church

00:37:53.720 is presenting in its amicus briefing aren't so much an argument in favor of birthright citizenship

00:38:00.460 it's an argument about denying u.s citizenship to anybody full stop who asks for it um that and

00:38:08.720 that's the sort of the concern that i have because they're operating under the principle

00:38:13.820 that anyone born outside of the United States

00:38:17.600 is simply basically a block of clay

00:38:20.160 and they only get the full dignity of humanity

00:38:22.700 once they get the US citizenship.

00:38:25.500 Now, I'm sure there are many people who follow the womb 1.00

00:38:27.300 who actually think, yeah, that's absolutely true.

00:38:29.220 To be American is the highest form of humanity

00:38:33.520 and citizenship confers that dignity.

00:38:38.040 I'm joking, of course.

00:38:39.680 But the truth of the matter is that

00:38:41.360 invaders illegal third world invaders are made in the image and likeness of god uh that comes 0.96

00:38:50.260 with conception and that remains until until death you don't need to illegally break into

00:38:56.740 another country to have that dignity ascribed to your being and that but that's the sort of the

00:39:03.040 the subtext of the catholic church's argument here which i do find slightly confusing just give me

00:39:07.920 60 seconds before we have to rush back to Jenny on this point.

00:39:11.920 Their arguments are fundamentally against the idea of the U.S. denying citizenship to anybody, right?

00:39:18.360 Exactly, because they say that it's church teaching, that you're not allowed to do that like you represent.

00:39:23.120 But the true Catholic teaching and the attorneys that are on the opposite side,

00:39:27.780 they say it'd be nice to have somebody elucidate actual Catholic teaching.

00:39:32.600 That would be nice, you know.

00:39:34.340 if we had a different pope we would have and different bishops and we would have catholic

00:39:38.160 teaching because catholic teaching says this isn't really a catholic issue the the lawmakers

00:39:42.680 of any country have a right to make these decisions themselves it isn't really about

00:39:47.940 human dignity or not a catholic church would not say i mean why would they say that a country that

00:39:52.140 isn't really even catholic is better for people than people that are are leaving a country that 0.98

00:39:58.380 is catholic you know if they're coming from latin america they're they're leaving catholic countries

00:40:02.480 Why would the Catholic Church say that it's better for them to leave a Catholic country and go somewhere else?

00:40:07.560 You know, they're just making up very specious, very weak, very thin arguments that aren't persuasive to anybody.

00:40:15.040 And I think it's just desperation.

00:40:16.860 El Paso diocese, where the head chief, illegal aliens grift bishop, cites, is filing bankruptcy.

00:40:26.620 They say it's because of the changes to the abuse laws, but really it's because Trump has cut off completely their gravy train down there.

00:40:35.120 They just don't have the money that they had, and it's all about that.

00:40:38.260 It's all about the money.

00:40:40.360 You asked the rhetorical question, Frank Walker, why is the Catholic Bishops' Conference producing these specious arguments?

00:40:49.340 And you answered the question in your opening words as you announced your analysis on this.

00:40:55.160 It's about the grift.

00:40:55.960 It's simply about the grip of the hundreds of millions that they get every year, if not billions, in subsidies from the U.S. federal government. 0.73

00:41:07.400 It's about continuing to suck at the teat of U.S. taxpayer largesse.

00:41:13.780 Frank standby, we'll come through your social medias in just about five minutes' time after we go to Jenny. 0.55

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00:42:45.780 philip patrick and his team are waiting for your call text bannon um to 98 98 98 again bannon to

00:42:54.380 98 98 98 jenny holland you wanted to finish the point you were making just before the break and

00:43:02.540 then perhaps tie it in to your last story of today's show and that is some good news and that

00:43:09.700 the uk is going to raise the legal prohibition on gender altering hormones on children from 15 to

00:43:20.400 17 years old that is to say anyone under the age of 18 will no longer be able to affect these

00:43:27.880 medical journeys of um what do they call it gender dysphoria of changing their gender tell us um

00:43:36.580 because these are related. Finish, if you wouldn't mind the point you were making about

00:43:40.240 the Islamification of the UK, and then tell us what's happening here with the NHS.

00:43:46.940 So what Frank was just saying about the sort of intellectual incoherence of the church's

00:43:53.760 argument on immigration in the States bears, it has some reflection on this document produced

00:43:59.860 by this Labour government, which is called Protecting What Matters on Social Cohesion,

00:44:04.520 end quote unquote. The obvious raising up and giving special status to Islam as a religion

00:44:16.460 is the core part of this document, even at the expense of free speech and all this very important

00:44:23.520 foundational stuff. However, the document also says that Islamic extremism is the biggest problem

00:44:33.540 to threat to social cohesion in the United Kingdom. And it also says that Britons must, 0.96

00:44:42.200 not should, but must embrace LGBTQ lifestyles, ideology, etc. So this is a dog's dinner, 1.00

00:44:52.380 as they say here. This is neither fish nor fowl nor good red herring. It makes sense to no one

00:44:58.360 and will please no one.

00:45:00.400 And I think that's fundamentally

00:45:01.600 because progressive, liberal, left-wing people

00:45:06.520 are living in this delusional space

00:45:09.120 where everyone can be happy

00:45:10.800 and everyone can be special

00:45:12.080 and everyone can have everything they ever wanted

00:45:14.180 and no one is illegal and love is love.

00:45:17.620 And I think there's a very large proportion

00:45:20.320 of the United Kingdom civil service

00:45:22.900 and political class

00:45:24.600 that is completely in thrall

00:45:26.520 to this obviously incorrect, to put it politely, idea.

00:45:32.420 So we have this like whipsawing back and forth

00:45:35.580 between common sense policy

00:45:39.760 and pie in the sky fantasy policy

00:45:43.880 that is also completely egregious

00:45:48.100 in terms of civil liberties

00:45:49.180 and is a threat to the British way of life.

00:45:51.940 So the gender thing here 0.77

00:45:53.640 has been a really good example of this as well,

00:45:55.640 Because while you had, for many years, a very captured NHS in terms of gender ideology, NHS calling breastfeeding chest feeding and encouraging trans women, i.e. men, to lactate, which I won't go into the details of because they're so foul, and also having gender self-ID. 0.92

00:46:20.700 So a man can just say, yeah, I'm a lady. And that's the end of it. And men in women's prisons and all the rest of it. You had a very, very effective pushback year spearheaded by the now famous TERFs of the United Kingdom.

00:46:33.240 And so it was announced this week that the NHS would no longer be treating children under the age of 18 with cross-sex hormones. This follows on from a ban on puberty blockers, which happened recently as well.

00:46:49.860 So it seems to me that this effectively kills off gender affirming care, i.e. experimentation and child sex characteristic mutilations in the United Kingdom.

00:47:01.480 So that is very, very good news on children.

00:47:05.520 Let me read something to you by Dr. Alice Hodgkinson, who's the founder of the campaign group Biology and Medicine.

00:47:15.400 And she writes in welcoming the NHS announcement, which for the American stands for the National Health Service, she writes that cross-sex hormones do not become any less harmful on a patient's 18th birthday. 0.56

00:47:31.780 There is mounting evidence of the long-term adverse effects, which include heart disease, stroke and early mortality.

00:47:39.700 Let me ask you, do you think this move on behalf of the NHS reflects somewhat that the woke lobby overextended itself with badly presented arguments?

00:47:51.120 And this is somewhat of a counter reaction to those to those early gains that the woke brigade made.

00:47:58.580 100%. I mean, I think like in the United States, the idea of transgender children is across the board horrifying to all sane people who aren't captured by woke ideology. 1.00

00:48:11.400 And in the UK, we had a very significant court case brought by a young woman who was transitioned as a teenager.

00:48:18.520 Her name is Kira Bell. And she brought this court case, which eventually led to the shutting down of the preeminent gender clinic here, or in London it is. 0.99

00:48:28.580 And so, you know, it is just obvious on its face that children cannot consent to having their puberty blocked and that it is obvious that puberty serves an important physical, physiological and biological function to the human body and should not be paused, quote unquote, I will say, because you can't pause puberty anyway, really.

00:48:51.140 and that men should not be given or boys should not be given estrogen and girls should not be 0.84

00:48:55.720 given testosterone. You don't need a medical degree to understand this. I mean, as the most

00:49:02.900 famous of all the English turfs, Kelly J. Keene said, I may not be a vet, but I know what a bloody 1.00

00:49:08.240 dog is. You don't need a degree in medicine to know that children should be allowed to grow up

00:49:15.320 free from having their bodies pumped with synthetic cross-sex hormones. However, as much 0.90

00:49:23.160 as the common sense regular folk understand this, and as much as woke did overreach on the issue of

00:49:30.280 transgender, I would not say that the threat is past. I would say that these are actual demons 1.00

00:49:39.240 who have been working in this ideology and embedding itself in all institutions across

00:49:45.700 the Western world. So I would caution against letting the guard down in any way, even though

00:49:54.200 it is a massive victory. And I hope that other NHS, Wales, Scotland, whatever, will follow.

00:50:00.940 And it is an absolute blessing that children will no longer be mutilated by doctors under the NHS

00:50:08.160 in england i just have two quick things to say jenny um first thing is that

00:50:15.520 current children who are already on these treatments are allowed to continue them but

00:50:22.900 what the announcement has said is that there's going to be no new referrals and since we've

00:50:27.240 been on air i did get a text to correct me on my arabic earlier on in the first half anything

00:50:32.320 which is against sharia law is not harem which is a harem it's um it's haram so i obviously didn't

00:50:39.860 pay i didn't obviously wasn't paying enough attention when i was at um islamic school in our

00:50:44.920 uh in our religious education classes at school because we didn't have those then jenny you i

00:50:51.440 know you've got a book coming out just give me 20 seconds on your socials and and preview the book

00:50:56.300 that you're going to be publishing having published quite soon well i don't know how soon but um you

00:51:02.380 can find me on youtube at saving culture from itself and on substack at jenny e holland dot

00:51:09.240 substack.com many thanks jenny did you're absolutely a star pushing out some of these

00:51:16.760 arguments out on social media and frank walker i say this every week but it's absolutely true

00:51:21.680 every day i check the canon 212 website greatest website as an aggregator of everything i need to

00:51:28.520 know about what's happening in the catholic church where do people go to to keep informed

00:51:33.380 between our shows here on the war room yeah canon 212 yeah and also uh canon 212 spelled out on

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WarRoom Battleground EP 966： “Trad Inc” Increasingly Nervous That Traditionalists Consecrate New Bishops Without Papal Mandate

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