In times of crisis, heroes emerge. That's what Bishop John Schneider said in a private meeting with one of the most senior leaders in the Archdiocese of Newark, New Jersey, on the subject of the sex abuse scandal in the Catholic Church.
00:02:48.120would fundamentally damage the church's credibility.
00:02:52.420And their desire was fundamentally that.
00:02:56.900I think with the benefit of hindsight,
00:03:00.000we can see that that silence, that institutional silence,
00:03:03.180Even the moving around of priests from one parish to another, rather than just kicking them out and going to the police.
00:03:14.620That has been, with the benefit of hindsight, a catastrophic mistake.
00:03:21.520and i think it's fair to say that here on the war room we don't wish to perpetuate the the same
00:03:29.360mistakes of saying staying silent when we see things in the church which is wrong and that is
00:03:34.660why we are called in the spirit of charity and truth to talk about these things and things and
00:03:40.820try to pull the church back to the narrow path i'm just saying that because some people um especially
00:03:48.360on Rumble seem to think that we have an impetus, an anti-Catholic impetus. And of course, nothing
00:03:53.800could be further from the truth. The real people in our crosshairs are, of course, the anti-Catholic
00:03:59.320hierarchs who are dragging our church into the ground. So folks, having said that, it
00:04:09.260is clear that in times of crisis, heroes emerge. And Frank Walker, it seems to me that one
00:04:16.200One hero that is ever clearly, ever clearer, a pastor who is not abandoning the flock to the wolves is Bishop Schneider, who said something in a private meeting, and you're going to tell us a bit about it now, a couple of days ago, on the subject of something that we've been discussing every week here on the War Room,
00:04:40.040which is the imminent episcopal consecrations of the Society of Pope Pius X,
00:04:47.320he suggested, because it has been mentioned, that if the Lefebvreists, the SSPX,
00:04:54.420if they go ahead with these episcopal consecrations, that will incur latte sentenciae excommunication,
00:05:01.400automatic excommunications, because bishops are consecrating other bishops without a papal mandate.
00:05:07.380And into this debate entered Bishop Schneider. And he did agree. He was speaking in a private meeting, but he did agree to the publication of his private remarks.
00:05:26.040And Frank Walker, Bishop Schneider, says that from his point of view, and this is quite a strong thing to say, very courageous thing to say, very true thing to say, right?
00:05:39.680And it gives an indication of where we are in the Catholic Church, that it requires a degree of courage to say things which are true.
00:05:47.340But he said, should the church respond and announce excommunications, either late sentence excommunications, and say that those excommunications have already taken place, or if it should proactively proceed with punitive excommunications, they would not be valid.
00:06:04.760And that is, as I say, a very courageous thing for Bishop Schneider to do, who's not from a world-important primatial diocese out in Astana, I think it is, in Kazakhstan.
00:06:24.060all the more brave I think Frank Walker
00:07:12.960but because Bishop Snyder, way back years ago,
00:07:17.260when Francis was on the scene and there was a lot of discussion
00:07:20.460about Francis's validity since Benedict had really had abdicated, which is very, very unusual.
00:07:28.080And he was always defending Benedict's validity in the face of a lot of different evidence and
00:07:32.580poo-pooing it. That's his past. But here he's been very positive about the SSPX. And he did say
00:07:39.480that the excommunications might not be valid in some respects, he said. And that is very brave
00:07:46.840And true. I think it's true. And the last time that there was an excommunication for this, they were lifted. And so he's not contradicting Pope Benedict here. But I think if he had gone and he said those excommunications directly, those excommunications will be invalid, then he would get the Archbishop Vigano treatment.
00:08:07.860So he's avoided that. I think that there's so much politically going on here with this. This situation is really frightening for Leo Church, and they're pulling out all the stops, everything that they possibly can to keep their project of Leo Church together, keep it from falling apart.
00:08:32.200For some reason, it seems like, you know, the little SSPX is really terrifying to the machine, to the machine that gave us the Vatican II Church and Leo and Francis now.
00:08:44.380And they really don't want it to damage the church.
00:08:47.600But this piece that you mentioned here at 1 Peter 5, which was 1 Peter 5 was founded by a guy who eventually left the faith.
00:08:57.240And it was sort of a disgraced paper by the time it was over.
00:09:01.460And then it was bought up by Crisis Magazine and bought up by Trad Inc.
00:09:06.840One Peter Five is a Trad Inc. operation.
00:09:09.640And I see this piece here about Bishop Schneider highlighting it to be mainly a Trad Inc.
00:09:14.540sort of a therapy session to try to keep people on site with the SSPX and the whole Trad movement all together in one big pile.
00:09:24.500They're afraid that they're going to lose the traditionalist movement with all of this that's going on.
00:09:28.960And the editor of 1 Peter 5 here is sort of trying to soothe us and make us relax and worry, not worry about it so much.
00:11:10.660The schism is the modernism embraced by 99% of the church hierarchy.
00:11:16.480They are the ones in schism and the Lefebvreists who are consecrating in order to protect the integrity of the unchangeable and unchanging Catholic faith.
00:11:29.700That is actually not that's not the damage of schism.
00:11:32.920That's the remedy to the schism that the modernist post-conciliar church has has been inflicting on the faithful over the last 65 or so years.
00:11:44.740You mentioned Cardinal Moulin, Cardinal Serra, who were both considered to be, in some quarters, to have been great stalwarts and defenders of traditional Catholicism.
00:12:01.660Cardinal Zinn has made an intervention.
00:12:03.980Now, I have more sympathy for various reasons when it comes to Cardinal Zinn, sentimental reasons, and I'm sort of prepared to give him just a little bit more leeway.
00:12:12.420but he has himself made an intervention on this.
00:18:30.640That statistic is absolutely astonishing.
00:18:32.7801,000% increase of this church in the United States.
00:18:37.500It's a split screen, isn't it, from what we've just seen on that video in the United States and the renaissance in the seriousness of Catholic church going in the youth to what is happening in our dear old beloved UK.
00:18:55.820okay um tell us a bit this is an astonishing story tell us a bit about the kowtowing behind
00:19:02.320the british education and authorities and the councils uh having been warned
00:19:09.980that um teachers teaching school kids how to paint to draw dancing to music this is all um harem
00:19:21.500in um in islam this is all against sharia law what's been the response to this it's an outrageous
00:19:27.940story yeah yeah so as you all know i'm coming in hot from the um soon-to-be islamic republican
00:19:36.100of great britain and northern ireland today and uh yeah it seems to be accelerating somewhat
00:19:42.400these um stories that are coming out fast and furious about the growing political clout of the
00:19:50.180muslim demographic in the united kingdom and most recently well we had two stories back to back
00:19:55.860first was this story coming from the north of england where local councils have warned schools
00:20:01.460not to uh approach or to to beware of um allowing the school children to produce blasphemous work
00:20:12.840such as drawing the human form um and there was a little side bar as well on music uh where they
00:20:19.960said, well, of course you can't not have music, but Islamic music only allows voice and something
00:20:27.700about drums. I'm not an expert. So schools now are expected to be sensitive to Islamic children's
00:20:40.120faith and not be asked to do anything that they would consider blasphemous. So that's on the one
00:20:46.840hand right then we have the british government which really doesn't know its rear end from its
00:20:53.760elbow at this point saying that um they're not going to do a blasphemy law there's no way no
00:21:01.680no blasphemy we're not going to reintroduce blasphemy blasphemy blasphemy laws were banned
00:21:06.200in the united kingdom um but what we will do they say is we are going to uh appoint an anti uh a
00:21:15.160Sorry. Hey, what is it? An anti-Muslim hostility czar or commissar, probably a better term, a commissar to make sure that no one is being mean to Muslims.
00:21:28.440So on the one hand, it's definitely nothing to do with blasphemy. You understand, Ben. OK, I want to be very clear. It's not about blasphemy. It's about anti-Muslim hostility.
00:21:37.920So although if you are a teacher in the north of England, they are explicitly using the word blasphemy as in these reports, warning teachers not to do not to teach blasphemous or assign blasphemous classwork.
00:21:52.240And important to note, one of the schools in the catchment area of the councils that have been putting these documents out got into a terrible, terrible situation a few years ago when a, I think it was a secondary school teacher, a British, an English guy, showed a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad in a class.
00:22:14.240And that man had to go into hiding where he still is with his family on pain of death.
00:22:21.440So we have currently a British man, citizen, hiding from essentially, you know, a religious edict calling for his death in the British Isles.
00:22:32.240A British citizen is living under this restriction, under this fear of death.
00:22:38.900So this new document, though, it's been leaked to the spectator.
00:22:44.240And it's a 46-page, 47-page, what's it called, cohesion strategy that is calling for the appointment of this witch finder general.
00:22:56.240So, so many things. I think the document is called Protecting What Matters.
00:23:02.060Seems like an attempt to me, Jenny Holland, to codify appeasement on behalf of the growing Islamic militancy in the UK.
00:23:13.220That case you were referring to about that school teacher, by the way, to grammar school up in the north of England, that took place in 2021, so that's what, five years ago now, and he's still in hiding because he had made the mistake of encouraging his pupils to draw the prophet Muhammad.
00:23:37.180A couple of things here, because teachers have also been warned not to ask students to, they're saying don't reproduce images of the Prophet Muhammad or other figures considered to be prophets in Islam.
00:23:55.100But that, of course, includes Jesus Christ as well.
00:23:58.740So teachers are being encouraged to encourage their students
00:24:04.020not to draw our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, in the UK.
00:24:09.120We're not talking about Dubai or any sort of Islamabad
00:24:18.940Though, of course, the distinction is becoming ever more difficult to observe.
00:24:24.440So what does that say? What does that say to you, Jenny Holland, that in the north of England, children are not allowed to draw pictures of Jesus Christ now because of Islamic sensibilities?
00:24:36.520Well, let's let's think this through. What do children in the UK do every December?
00:24:42.040Everyone gets involved in Christmas celebrations and Christmas and nativity plays and Christmas decorations and all of this stuff.
00:24:52.320Christmas is about the birth of Jesus.
00:24:54.180So are we going to have little white children in Northern English primary schools being terrified to draw a crown or draw other representations of the baby Jesus in case they get a fatwa put on them?
00:25:08.940Or they're told by a headmaster somewhere or some sort of schoolmarm that they're very close to being blasphemers against the prophet Muhammad.
00:25:17.280I mean, this is completely unsustainable.
00:25:19.640Where is the Church of England on this, by the way? This is a Christian country. This is not a country that was founded like the United States, you know, as a republic. We are a Christian monarchy in name only at this point, but they haven't gone through the trouble of changing the name.
00:25:35.860So we are still de facto that we have that heritage.
00:25:41.740And the fact that it's being, I wouldn't even say chipped away, I would say demolished with a sledgehammer and a chainsaw at this point.
00:25:51.260So to recap, we are going to have a anti-Muslim blasphemy, anti-Muslim hostility commissar.
00:25:59.120Children in the north of England are not going to be allowed to draw pictures of baby Jesus.
00:26:03.480um and we have a teacher still in hiding because on pain of death he he did something that was not
00:26:11.120acceptable that was a crime against the muslim religion if you want to live under muslim
00:26:15.540religious standards move to a muslim religious country and that's not england
00:26:19.820well you'll just stay in england because it will be a muslim country uh within our own lifetimes
00:26:26.760this is i'm reading this right look give me um 10 seconds because we're going to the break now
00:26:31.600But this is, in the UK, this is an Islamoflex, right?
00:26:36.540This is the Islamic community showing their muscle with the British establishment, right?
00:26:42.140So that the Brits can feel duly cowed and oppressed.
00:26:46.180It's actually kind of worse because the full document, as mentioned by The Spectator,
00:26:53.520also says that Islamism is the main...
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00:31:26.820Well, for those of you sitting on the edge of your seats waiting to hear the rest of what Jenny Holland was saying, stand by.
00:31:33.020We're back to her in about five, 10 minutes time where she's going to continue the theme that she was mentioning.
00:31:39.080In the meantime, Frank Walker, is it a surprise to you that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has lobbied SCOTUS via the Supreme Court of the United States
00:31:51.520via a formal amicus briefing, lobbying in favour of the preservation of birthright,
00:32:01.560again, inverted commas, birthright, citizenship for invaders, anchor babies.
00:32:10.320This is in response to, I think it's an executive order that President Trump signed.
00:32:15.000Back on the first day of him resuming office back in 2025, suggesting, ordering the federal government not to recognize citizenship of children, of parents who were present illegally in the United States.
00:32:39.380This has obviously gone to the Supreme Court, hence the present situation.
00:32:43.320Tell me a bit, why is the Catholic Church, which ought to be a vehicle for spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ,
00:32:52.700why is the Catholic Church getting involved in this?
00:32:56.000And what did it say in its amicus briefing?
00:33:06.700You know, since they're filing bankruptcy over abuse charges all over the place, you would think they wouldn't be able to afford to spend so much time at the Supreme Court.
00:33:17.340Seems like it would be kind of expensive. And they're happy to go to the courts on every little procedural monkey wrench that they can throw into the way ICE operates, taking away their control, their local control, making sure that they have to permit them to do all sorts of things.
00:33:37.820Everything they possibly could do to slow down and stifle the deportations that are happening, they'll do.
00:33:45.540So this is this birthright citizenship puts puts a stops them from saying you're separating families.
00:33:53.820They love to say how, oh, they're separating families and they love to talk about the children.
00:33:59.140But they really don't ever have a case.
00:34:02.280Birthright citizenship has been going on in the United States for, I think, over 100 years now.
00:34:06.440It came with the 14th Amendment. It was about slavery, but it isn't really, you know, inherent to the Constitution.
00:34:14.160But the bishops, it wouldn't make any difference. Their points are never really legal.
00:34:19.800Their points are human dignity. Their points are what they would call moral.
00:34:24.020You know, and since none of them are Catholic, they really aren't in any kind of position to make Catholic points.
00:34:28.540They say it's against the equality of peoples because they're favoring citizens over non-citizens, and they're taking that to the Supreme Court.
00:34:47.300There's some people at the Heritage Foundation that says it's always a one-way street with this human dignity argument that they have at the court.
00:34:56.380And, you know, they're more about political statements than moral ones.
00:35:02.560That's the case of the people against us.
00:35:04.140And they also say it's something that's fundamental to all societies.
00:35:07.780And it's and it's fundamentally Catholic.
00:35:09.760But most Catholic countries don't even have birthright citizenship.
00:35:55.120So I've got two points to make. Oh, three points. I'm going to respond to something that you said.
00:35:59.540I think the administration is going to eventually make the argument that the 14th Amendment was primarily concerned with ensuring that former slaves who were freed after the Civil War would have the full recognition of being U.S. citizens.
00:36:21.080and there's a very strong argument that it wasn't about granting the 14th amendment wasn't about
00:36:28.920granting citizenship to anybody who was born in the united states because there was there's the
00:36:36.200famous clause about subject to the jurisdiction thereof which indicates of course that citizens
00:36:41.660of other countries or have you diplomats etc etc who have children don't automatically get the
00:36:50.320citizenship um but there are two immediate responses to um to this story and the first
00:36:58.600is to warn faithful catholics hapless catholics to some extent but faithful american catholics
00:37:05.460that this is where your collection plate money is going you might be putting that money in the
00:37:10.060collection plate for the winning of your parish church for getting flowers for the altar for the
00:37:14.960feeding of the poor what have you but this is going to pay lawyers to present these amicus
00:37:19.840briefings at the supreme court so you can ask yourself in the recesses of your own conscience
00:37:26.220whether you think your money your donut collection plate money is being well spent by the hierarchy
00:37:30.820my more fundamental point frank and i'll just hand back to you on this one is that if you look
00:37:36.380as you say and you did expound what the um what the catholic church's argument is to do with the
00:37:42.900sort of the inherent dignity of individuals being made in the image and likeness of god and all the
00:37:46.540rest of it um the arguments that the catholic church is the the institutional catholic church
00:37:53.720is presenting in its amicus briefing aren't so much an argument in favor of birthright citizenship
00:38:00.460it's an argument about denying u.s citizenship to anybody full stop who asks for it um that and
00:38:08.720that's the sort of the concern that i have because they're operating under the principle
00:38:13.820that anyone born outside of the United States
00:40:55.960It's simply about the grip of the hundreds of millions that they get every year, if not billions, in subsidies from the U.S. federal government.
00:41:07.400It's about continuing to suck at the teat of U.S. taxpayer largesse.
00:41:13.780Frank standby, we'll come through your social medias in just about five minutes' time after we go to Jenny.
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00:45:53.640has been a really good example of this as well,
00:45:55.640Because while you had, for many years, a very captured NHS in terms of gender ideology, NHS calling breastfeeding chest feeding and encouraging trans women, i.e. men, to lactate, which I won't go into the details of because they're so foul, and also having gender self-ID.
00:46:20.700So a man can just say, yeah, I'm a lady. And that's the end of it. And men in women's prisons and all the rest of it. You had a very, very effective pushback year spearheaded by the now famous TERFs of the United Kingdom.
00:46:33.240And so it was announced this week that the NHS would no longer be treating children under the age of 18 with cross-sex hormones. This follows on from a ban on puberty blockers, which happened recently as well.
00:46:49.860So it seems to me that this effectively kills off gender affirming care, i.e. experimentation and child sex characteristic mutilations in the United Kingdom.
00:47:01.480So that is very, very good news on children.
00:47:05.520Let me read something to you by Dr. Alice Hodgkinson, who's the founder of the campaign group Biology and Medicine.
00:47:15.400And she writes in welcoming the NHS announcement, which for the American stands for the National Health Service, she writes that cross-sex hormones do not become any less harmful on a patient's 18th birthday.
00:47:31.780There is mounting evidence of the long-term adverse effects, which include heart disease, stroke and early mortality.
00:47:39.700Let me ask you, do you think this move on behalf of the NHS reflects somewhat that the woke lobby overextended itself with badly presented arguments?
00:47:51.120And this is somewhat of a counter reaction to those to those early gains that the woke brigade made.
00:47:58.580100%. I mean, I think like in the United States, the idea of transgender children is across the board horrifying to all sane people who aren't captured by woke ideology.
00:48:11.400And in the UK, we had a very significant court case brought by a young woman who was transitioned as a teenager.
00:48:18.520Her name is Kira Bell. And she brought this court case, which eventually led to the shutting down of the preeminent gender clinic here, or in London it is.
00:48:28.580And so, you know, it is just obvious on its face that children cannot consent to having their puberty blocked and that it is obvious that puberty serves an important physical, physiological and biological function to the human body and should not be paused, quote unquote, I will say, because you can't pause puberty anyway, really.
00:48:51.140and that men should not be given or boys should not be given estrogen and girls should not be
00:48:55.720given testosterone. You don't need a medical degree to understand this. I mean, as the most
00:49:02.900famous of all the English turfs, Kelly J. Keene said, I may not be a vet, but I know what a bloody
00:49:08.240dog is. You don't need a degree in medicine to know that children should be allowed to grow up
00:49:15.320free from having their bodies pumped with synthetic cross-sex hormones. However, as much
00:49:23.160as the common sense regular folk understand this, and as much as woke did overreach on the issue of
00:49:30.280transgender, I would not say that the threat is past. I would say that these are actual demons
00:49:39.240who have been working in this ideology and embedding itself in all institutions across
00:49:45.700the Western world. So I would caution against letting the guard down in any way, even though
00:49:54.200it is a massive victory. And I hope that other NHS, Wales, Scotland, whatever, will follow.
00:50:00.940And it is an absolute blessing that children will no longer be mutilated by doctors under the NHS
00:50:08.160in england i just have two quick things to say jenny um first thing is that
00:50:15.520current children who are already on these treatments are allowed to continue them but
00:50:22.900what the announcement has said is that there's going to be no new referrals and since we've
00:50:27.240been on air i did get a text to correct me on my arabic earlier on in the first half anything
00:50:32.320which is against sharia law is not harem which is a harem it's um it's haram so i obviously didn't
00:50:39.860pay i didn't obviously wasn't paying enough attention when i was at um islamic school in our
00:50:44.920uh in our religious education classes at school because we didn't have those then jenny you i
00:50:51.440know you've got a book coming out just give me 20 seconds on your socials and and preview the book
00:50:56.300that you're going to be publishing having published quite soon well i don't know how soon but um you
00:51:02.380can find me on youtube at saving culture from itself and on substack at jenny e holland dot
00:51:09.240substack.com many thanks jenny did you're absolutely a star pushing out some of these
00:51:16.760arguments out on social media and frank walker i say this every week but it's absolutely true
00:51:21.680every day i check the canon 212 website greatest website as an aggregator of everything i need to
00:51:28.520know about what's happening in the catholic church where do people go to to keep informed
00:51:33.380between our shows here on the war room yeah canon 212 yeah and also uh canon 212 spelled out on
00:51:41.900twitter and the daily update is at glory tv and at rumble perfect that's it folks we'll be back
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