00:00:37.960I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:43.820Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:47.600If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:53.880War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:01:00.000it's thursday 12 march in the year of our lord 2026 thank you for sticking around for our six
00:01:06.360o'clock show we're gonna go to the white house then we're gonna go this presser out in the
00:01:10.180detroit area let's go to our own benny ray harmony at the white house benny you were there for this
00:01:15.740event in the east wing about women's history put us in the room man
00:01:19.760yeah steve so we just got out of this event not too long ago where the president signed a
00:01:26.320presidential proclamation declaring March as Women's History Month. Lots of notable figures
00:01:32.980in the room. We saw Kellyanne Conway, which we don't see very often here at the White House.
00:01:37.660Pam Bondi was in attendance, as well as the Olympic bobsled champion. And she actually said,
00:01:44.860she said in all her medals that she's won, her biggest achievement is being a mom. So overall,
00:01:49.640lots of women in the room, Steve. There actually were only a few men that we saw,
00:01:53.700But the president, he touted some of those achievements that he's done, didn't touch on any of the big headlines we're seeing right now, like Iran really wanted to center this around women and what they mean to him.
00:02:04.520Even calling Melania a movie star, it was it was very refreshing.
00:02:09.820I think she is a movie star, and I think it's the number one.
00:02:12.660Not only have a huge box office hit and one of the biggest documentaries in history, but I think it's number one on Netflix.
00:02:18.760Benny, let me ask you, you're there day in and day out now.
00:02:23.000Because obviously there's a lot of pressure.
00:02:24.960The president did mention briefly the war in Iran.
00:02:29.080He did mention briefly, we're going to cut to Detroit in a moment.
00:02:32.200I want to report that we're hearing that there's five or six first responders that might have caught something.
00:02:38.000There's some issue about when they showed up.
00:02:42.700Is there increased tension around the White House?
00:02:45.960I mean, what is the feel of the place right now?
00:02:48.120well you know steve i first came on with you back in what was it october and we this was right when
00:02:56.060the peace deal with israel and gaza and all of that going on in the middle east and now there's
00:03:02.700even more reporters that we see here and the amount of foreign press that is constantly here
00:03:07.820and in all of these events you hear more languages than just english i mean it these events are
00:03:14.020impactful. People's eyes are on America. Their eyes are on President Donald Trump in a way that
00:03:19.280I truly, they've always been on him, but not like they are now. The different types of questions
00:03:23.960from war to the issues here, the Save America Act. I mean, you just have domestic, you have foreign,
00:03:31.100it's a whole different level. I truly believe that. And the tensions are always high, you know,
00:03:36.440especially with CNN right now, the legacy media, they're really under pressure by President Trump
00:04:26.600They haven't started, so there's supposed to be a press conference,
00:04:29.520I guess in the greater Detroit area, about this terrorist attack.
00:04:34.560We now know, I think it just went up, that the individual is Muslim.
00:04:38.940I believe they're putting up that is two children were killed in an Israeli missile attack or something.
00:04:46.200We'll get all the details, but there's some backstory here.
00:04:49.660We're going to go live to that momentarily.
00:04:52.400Philip, right now, the Ayatollah is saying, hey, the Straits are moving, not one drop of oil.
00:04:58.920Of course, they're letting the Chinese flagships go out there.
00:05:01.540The Gulf Emirates are coming and they're blowing people up back here in the States saying, hey, we didn't sign up for this.
00:05:06.420these guys are taking out our our desalination plants are taking our oil where are we and you
00:05:12.920know uh eric bowling was on hand recommend the president hey don't do the strategic patrolling
00:05:17.420reserve because all they're going to do these speculators are just going to bid it up and they
00:05:21.380have brent's over 100 bucks a barrel i think it's 101 west texas intermediate i think it's 97
00:05:27.420what's your sense of where we are sir listen this is exactly what the iranians wanted right they
00:05:34.420can't win a military war against the United States. So they're waging an economic war against
00:05:39.720the entire world. That's why they're shooting at oil refineries, desalination plants, not US
00:05:45.680destroyers. This is what the IEA is now calling the largest disruption of global oil supplies in
00:05:52.420history. And I think if prices stay at these levels, central banks will have a problem. They
00:05:57.740face another inflation rise or recession risk. And I think this is ultimately the plan of the
00:06:04.700Iranians, create enough economic chaos to create civilian pressure to end the conflict. We have to
00:06:11.080remember the Iranians can win this thing by simply not losing it. So I think the smartest thing for
00:06:16.480us is quick military action, achieve objectives, get in, get out and limit the damage. I agree
00:06:23.960with Eric on dipping into strategic oil reserves doesn't typically do that much. Obviously,
00:06:30.820they're there for emergencies. If we're dipping in now, it's problematic. The other thing is it
00:06:35.780signals to the world we have a problem and it doesn't necessarily lower oil prices. Last time
00:06:41.760we dipped in in 2022, prices spiked on the back of it. They didn't drop. So it's a tough situation.
00:06:48.080And I think the best thing for us right now has to be a clear end to the conflict swiftly, decisively, and do it in a way that finally points the loaded gun away from the world's economy.
00:07:00.260And then we can start to move on to what I think is the bigger problem, which is tackling the debt.
00:07:07.100And tackling debt, I think we're a billion or two billion a day.
00:08:10.300Price spikes domestically are going to put
00:08:12.500the necessary pressure on the administration to cut this thing quickly. We have to remember the
00:08:17.440Iranians are smart. They're not a military power, but they're experts at fighting asymmetric wars.
00:08:22.780They've been doing it for 50 years. The bigger concern is this. Countries around the world are
00:08:28.300realizing how to hit us. It's not militarily, it's economically. And we're seeing this in different
00:08:33.980forms show up over and over again, whether it's tariff negotiations, whether it's the Danes
00:08:39.860weaponizing debt when we start talking about Greenland, it all boils or comes back to the
00:08:45.500debt problem. Like I've said for a long time, if we can't get our fiscal house in order,
00:08:50.020it's going to create problems globally. And that's what we're seeing today.
00:08:54.980Talk to me about that because, I mean, this war is expensive. It's more expensive as an
00:09:00.600opportunity cost, but just the outlay. When you have two and three carrier battle groups,
00:09:05.240When you are unloading on them, you've got B-52s.
00:09:08.920I mean, we're hitting these guys right now with just about everything we have, and we're flooding even more into the region.
00:09:15.400When you say, and the Joint, remember, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs came up, I think it was Admiral Mallon, I think it was there, Fallon, a couple years ago.
00:09:22.480It was in the, I think it was in the first year of the Biden regime.
00:09:26.820He said that actually the debt was the biggest national security issue we had.
00:09:59.380These are actions, I think, you know, the president was put into a situation and had to make decisions.
00:10:06.220By the way, the Iranians have been a problem for 50 years, and we've been waving our hands doing nothing.
00:10:11.300At some point, we have to do something.
00:10:13.420But as you rightly point out, war is very expensive.
00:10:16.660It's why defense spending has increased this year, and it's why the deficit has expanded.
00:10:21.180I think as long as that happens, we're going to continue to have problems.
00:10:25.420Debt is still the biggest national security issue.
00:10:28.520It means we have to keep lenders happy. And it's very difficult to do that when you're fighting in a war against them or, you know, the Greenland situation comes up or whatever it might be.
00:10:38.640If you want to act tough and negotiate as President Trump is expert at, if you owe the world significant amounts of money, it weakens your position.
00:10:47.640And we know President Trump thrives with leverage. National debt reduces that leverage.
00:10:52.760we understand that uh in this situation with the mullahs now they need cash money and my
00:11:00.400understanding is that although they letting the the chinese flagged uh vessels out of her moves
00:11:06.120and we're letting them go by i think it's been 11 million barrels so far as what i think's been
00:11:09.900reported that my understanding is that they're they're now saying hey we can't the original deal
00:11:15.140i think was a 20 or 40 year output deal uh at certain discount prices but they had to take it
00:11:20.380They had to do it in Chinese currency, because this is what the Chinese are going to lead on, doing output deals with Iran, doing output deals with the Arabs, to try to begin to break the end of the dollar empire.
00:11:32.020As you know, they are adamant that they want to be—they know they can't replace the United States as a prime reserve currency, but they do have aspirations in 5, 10, 15 years of being a reserve currency.
00:11:44.280Maybe not the lead, but they want to get in there, and they're going to do it through the BRICS nations.
00:11:47.640Do you think this is a massive setback to this in the strategic calculation of where we may come out on top?
00:11:54.360Is that knowing that the moolahs, I think, have told them, hey, we're going to have to settle this in dollars.
00:11:59.620We can't take the currency risk anymore.
00:12:01.500Do you think that that is going to lessen the pressure on the dollar when this thing is out, when this thing is over?
00:13:55.800And it's exactly these sorts of climates that drive it.
00:13:59.220So it's exactly why central banks are upping their prediction.
00:14:02.180I think Goldman Sachs say 6,300 by year's end.
00:14:05.600JP Morgan, I think, say it by the second quarter of this year. So nothing's changed outside of
00:14:12.140people's expectations. But I think this will be another very strong year for gold. And it's
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00:19:22.220Obviously, a horrific thing happened tragically here in Oakland County again.
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00:19:44.260I have been texting the chief, not just in West Bloomfield,
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00:19:52.020Jewish facilities, synagogues, temples, you name it,
00:24:47.900My name is Jennifer Runyon, last name R-U-N-Y-A-N, and I'm a special agent in charge of the FBI Detroit field office.
00:24:56.860This is a deeply disturbing and tragic incident, and our deepest sympathies are with the victims, their family, and the entire Jewish community.
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00:25:19.620As my partners have said, this is an active and ongoing investigation with an active crime scene.
00:25:25.020And I ask for your patience as we process this evidence and pursue every lead that has come to us and that we have developed thus far.
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00:34:40.340are you kidding me this uh note to cash it's not working man
00:34:49.540this is not working you gotta give people some basic information
00:34:53.200this is not you know people the the folks we're in a shooting war we're in a shooting war in one
00:35:03.240of the most dangerous places in the world now how we got there and why we're doing this yes that is
00:35:09.600a topic for conversation but the reality is we're in a shooting war uh with a lot of people that
00:35:15.400have taken this quite personally and now today we've had two uh attacks both it looks like they
00:35:23.940didn't mention the guy's name why would we not mention his name you know his name why would you
00:35:28.200not mention it why do you have to have it from the Ryan Grimm's of the world this is just ridiculous
00:35:33.080also you know and please don't take this the wrong way are there any special agents out there
00:35:39.200in charge of investigations and these things that are not women I think this I don't know four or
00:35:44.180in a row i have you know i have no issue with that but it just seems odd that a probability
00:35:51.640you're eventually going to get to a guy today this just doesn't hack it you have to come up
00:35:57.940at least with the basics of information so people know what's going on we're in a shooting war
00:36:02.840there were two attacks one at odu and it looks like on at least some rotc uh members and then
00:36:10.780this attack on the synagogue. And the word that didn't cross their lips was terrorism,
00:36:22.320Islamic terrorism. This was a targeted attack on a synagogue, targeted attack on the Jewish
00:36:28.960community? Well, certainly was that. But do we know enough already after five hours? And if the
00:36:35.000FBI doesn't understand in five hours who the guy is, and at least a modicum of information about
00:36:40.200them, then what are you getting paid for? This is what I think drives people crazy. It's just so
00:36:47.440super politically correct. And please, let me just, while I'm giving free advice, I know you're not
00:36:53.280going to take it. Please don't start off every press conference with the same thing. We're
00:36:57.240working together as partners. Just assume that we understand you're working together as partners.
00:37:03.360We don't need to have the whole roll call of state, local, federal. We're all working together,
00:37:07.840And we're all here as one happy team. We assume that. Let's just cut to the chase and give some facts and talk about, you know, so people out in the community and in the country can get a sense of what's going on.
00:37:23.500It certainly looks like these attacks might have had something to do with the armed conflict that were in the, what is it, the military operations that we're involved in now in the Middle East.
00:37:34.780and i think people should be warned about that and put on notice about that maybe that's going
00:37:40.260to happen more now the um the guy from senegal today um appears he was you know converted to
00:37:49.940to isis or it looks like the sunni part of this so maybe he's not a shiite but also it shows you
00:37:57.760the commonality when they unite around their common enemy and they believe their common enemy
00:38:04.180is um is western civilization okay you see that this is what this fight is down in texas
00:38:13.280this is all inextricably linked could i go back to the mondani with the prayer rugs
00:38:18.860in the rugs in in city hall today in a show of dominance
00:38:23.420so we have to be better and we have to be tougher and right what you saw there is not tough
00:38:30.480that's soft and the reason they keep coming is because they think we're soft and the reason
00:38:36.820that they keep coming is that there's no pushback there's no punchback and you say well steve you're
00:38:43.200bombing the hell out of them over in the middle east i'm talking about here in the united states
00:38:47.080of america let me repeat this the problem we have is not in tehran as bad as the mullahs are
00:38:56.920as horrible as the ayatollah is as many decades as they chanted death to america what they hit us
00:39:04.600with was tangential at best or marginal at best it just was they talk about the marine corps they
00:39:12.860talk about the hostage well that's because we had an embassy there and they seized it yes and we
00:39:16.520failed we failed to uh in a military exercise a military evolution to free the hostages the
00:39:24.300pressure of having a guy like Ronald Reagan, who was the Donald Trump of his era, is what got him
00:39:30.320to the kind of negotiating table to free the hostages. They continued to dredge up the 1983
00:39:37.220Marine bombing. Horrific incident. But President Reagan would say later that the two mistakes he
00:39:45.820felt that he had made in his administration was putting the Marines into Lebanon, into that
00:39:55.140situation, and also the amnesty deal he cut where they promised him that this is going to be the
00:40:01.680last deal ever, and they lied to him, right? They naturalized the citizens to get everybody in
00:40:08.000and then didn't do anything about border security. Did President Reagan up the ante
00:40:14.180after the 83 uh bombing no he very simply said hey my central focus is to take down the evil
00:40:24.300empire i can't be i can't i can't have uh i can't be taken off that so i must focus on taking down
00:40:33.580the evil empire because that will be uh that will be one of the most important things in human
00:40:38.680history he wasn't prepared and they weren't ready to take on this great islamic threat of course
00:40:44.880maybe that was a mistake at the time and maybe us not being more aggressive against them was a
00:40:51.840mistake at the time and clearly people looked the other way in the uh in the in the in the bombing
00:40:58.100which was part of it was blowback for the for the gulf war right we looked the other way people now
00:41:04.540they did take people to court and treat it as a law enforcement situation, but then that led to
00:41:09.3409-11. But just remember, you know, 25 years after 9-11, you have a Marxist jihadist in the mayor's
00:41:18.820office in New York voted in by, I don't know, 60 or 70 percent of foreign-born voters. This is why
00:41:26.900the Save America Act is so important. This is why purging the voter rolls is so important. This is
00:41:31.380why forcing out all the illegal alien invaders in this country has to be done. This is why the
00:41:37.940Mass Deportations Coalition of Mike Howe and Rosemary Jenks is so important. This is why
00:41:45.160we're calling for a 10-year moratorium on all immigration, not just to protect jobs of our
00:41:52.300young people, particularly when AI is cutting through jobs like a Sith through grass, but also
00:41:58.380to make sure that we can just get control of exactly who's in this country and who's not in
00:42:03.300this country. We're at a crisis. We're at a inflection point. And of course, for reasons
00:42:11.340beyond my comprehension, we've decided to go to war and to go and go to war in, uh, for limited
00:42:18.580military objectives as CENTCOM and, uh, Dan Kane continue to tell me and the secretary of war,
00:42:25.420you know, the nuclear weapons capability, their air defenses, certain capabilities of
00:42:32.060industrial production and ballistic missiles and others, fine. But it certainly doesn't look like
00:42:37.000on the evening of 12 March in the year of our Lord, 2026, doesn't quite look like that war
00:42:43.660is the, that those objectives are being addressed by a professional and a methodical takedown by
00:42:51.340the most magnificent military in the world. However, the enemy gets a vote, and it looks
00:42:55.900like they voted to take on our allies, in quotation marks, in the Persian Gulf. And it
00:43:05.020looks like those allies have blinked big time. It also looks like they were paper tigers.
00:43:10.740They don't have the ability to stand up to these guys. And quite frankly, and Lindsey Graham gets
00:43:15.380up there, you know, drunk again and says he will guarantee a he King Lindsay will guarantee a
00:43:22.480Saudi defense pack in perpetuity if they join the fight, because then he says you got to stop
00:43:29.280double double dealing us or going behind our back. What does that mean? I think it means
00:43:34.800they're negotiating. Some group of them are negotiating with the with the Persians. And I'm
00:43:41.240sure it's about the desalination plants and their in the infrastructure their oil infrastructure
00:43:46.460do i have the tina peters apollo let me go there i'll come back to my rant a second but i want to
00:43:53.200go to apollo there's some news on tina peters that's very important i want to get to about
00:43:58.840as she was found that she was not the perpetrator i guess of this physical confrontation that took
00:44:04.840place so there won't be any addition onto her current sentences am i correct in that sir
00:44:09.380well yes well there were two issues but the big one is she was charged with assault within the
00:44:16.320disciplinary system of cdoc for assaulting the other inmate that was of course the video that
00:44:21.880we saw thrown all over social media because cdoc without tina's permission gave that to
00:44:28.640nine news and other networks here in colorado she was found not guilty which means there will be no
00:44:35.700additional charges regarding that. Some minor disciplinary things are possible, but nothing
00:44:41.900serious. And that's a huge win for Tina, especially with the political calculus for
00:44:47.080Governor Polis to grant her clemency. But I think everyone needs to understand the reason she was
00:44:52.220found not guilty is because in this case, she was actually allowed to mount a defense. And that was
00:44:58.400not the case during her trial because Judge Matthew Barrett essentially forbade her to speak
00:45:04.000on all the issues that would allow her to defend herself and the actions that she took? How do you
00:45:09.980defend your actions that you backed up election records in alignment with your elected duty and
00:45:15.440oath as clerk of Mesa County when you're not allowed to speak about elections? So she was for
00:45:21.260once, you know, truth kind of did prevail here for Tina Peters, but she is still in prison. She's
00:45:26.620still being held without bond. She's still sick and she's still serving a nine and a half year
00:45:31.000sentence with a three-year parole afterwards for the same crime that Sonia Lewis was given
00:45:36.180probation and a fine. So we're hoping on some court of appeals action very soon because
00:45:42.060Governor Polis has signaled that he's going to wait for that. I don't believe that he has any
00:45:47.700reason to, but we did have a small win, Steve. So Apollo Pappas, let me ask you, right now,
00:45:57.120and starting next week besides this war the other things don't take up all the political oxygen and
00:46:03.040of course on capitol hill they're talking about a bipartisan housing bill and they got all the
00:46:06.280stuff they want to do bipartisan and look all that some of that's great it's going to affect
00:46:10.200housing and it's important it needs to be done but you got to prioritize we're in a shooting war
00:46:14.860right now in addition we want to make sure one of the reasons we're in a shooting war
00:46:19.460is because of the fiasco that the illegitimate biden regime uh visited on this republic in the
00:46:26.420four years that they were illegitimately in office, and that's because the 2020 election
00:46:30.840was stolen. And so next week, we're going to go into this whole thing. Finally,
00:46:35.640the pressure on having Cornyn and people like Lindsey Granoff re-election,
00:46:39.660they understand President Trump's adamant about this. He's saying, hey, you have to pass the
00:46:44.000Save America Act. And I want the ID. I want the voter ID. I want the, you know, I want the cleaned
00:46:49.360up voter rolls. I want the no mail-in ballots, all of it. Everything that's in there, you got to do,
00:46:53.320And it's a priority. So this is going to be and I think what we're going to see is some version.
00:46:58.920I'm not saying the Senate's going to move to a talking filibuster, but there's going to be some, I believe, long, maybe multi-day debate in the United States Senate about exactly some of the issues, minus the machine part of it, that Tina Peters basically defended this republic about.
00:47:17.160polis has come out and you can tell he's trying to weigh this and the fairness of it etc the
00:47:23.460democrats in colorado and these are vicious democrats they took a red state a state that
00:47:29.160was as red as texas and they flipped it purple and now they're flipping it dark blue they've
00:47:34.220come out united and said under no circumstances can you let tina peters have a day shorter than
00:47:41.240the nine and a half years that she's gotten. And I haven't seen a firestorm in the Republican Party
00:47:47.300come back and say, oh, no, this is totally unfair. This is a gold star mother. This is a woman,
00:47:53.540a cancer survivor. She's in a hell hole and she has to come out. Can you just walk the audience
00:47:58.520through what the political calculations going on in Colorado? Because I'm I'm not shocked at the
00:48:03.920Democrats United because they understand that a free Tina Peters is one of their worst nightmares.
00:48:09.760That's why they got her in prison for nine and a half years.
00:48:12.060But I don't see the firestorm coming from the Republican Party, sir.
00:48:18.140Well, I mean, it's a very astute observation.
00:48:21.860And for some of us, we're not surprised because a lot of these so-called Republicans are that in name only.
00:48:28.260And we're not surprised because especially on the elections issue, they never did anything meaningful.
00:48:32.380And they didn't stand up for Tina Peters or for the very clear violations of law that were going on regarding the handling of those elections by the Colorado officials, including Jenna Griswold, the secretary of state.
00:48:45.400Some of them have been more disappointing because they show us that they're willing to represent themselves as fearless MAGA, America first, until the reelection is at stake.
00:48:55.960And that's really the reason we're seeing silence.
00:48:57.860The verb that has become now Tina Petered was not just a signal based on what they did to her to the rest of the clerks across the United States and here in Colorado.
00:49:08.400It was a verb that now means something to politicians as well, is the territory that you're not supposed to, you know, to threaten.
00:49:26.180Do they really care to raise the issue with Tina, especially given this battle between what is perceived to be the state of Colorado's jurisdiction and President Trump's?
00:49:38.080I don't think so, because it's not worth it to them.
00:49:40.180They're more worried that they're going to get elected.
00:49:42.560Jared Polis has a difficult spot because, on one hand, he has, as you put it, these very vicious Democrats who see Tina Peters and what she was persecuted for as their very legacy in some ways.
00:49:55.560So Jared Polis has to think, am I going to give up more ground by appearing as if I'm bowing down to President Trump or I am going to toe the line and pretend that I'm letting things play out?
00:50:09.680But Jared Polis, I hope, sees that the very clear issue here that he laid out himself is not about right or left.
00:50:17.200It's about a clear discrepancy in the application of law.
00:50:20.740And you can see that in the example he gave us with Sonia Lewis and Tina Peters sentencing for the same charges.
00:50:28.680So, you know, Jared Polis is in a difficult bit of political calculus himself right now
00:50:33.600because they're using Tina Peters to prevent him doing anything that is just clearly right.
00:50:40.300And the rest of the Republicans here in Colorado, they have a choice.
00:50:44.140And this is the last election that we're going to have unless we, at some level,
00:50:49.400from what President Trump is doing, which is phenomenal, all the points in the Save America Act.
00:50:53.560It's common sense. We need them anyways.
00:50:55.600But these machines are going to be the death of the republic if the truth is not really seen here.
00:51:00.460So there aren't too many candidates that are looking very good here in Colorado, but, you know, we also need to be wary of what's happened in other states because they go and we saw, you know, Democrats split the ticket just in some of these last elections.
00:51:15.880We need to figure out who we're actually going to stand with here in Colorado and have a unified party because otherwise we allow them to do the same thing, which is split our votes and they run away with the bag.
00:51:26.520And we have nothing to argue because not only we can't get the source code for the machines, we can't actually see what's going on behind the black boxes, but we look completely divided as it is.
00:51:38.140So it's as much a Republican Party thing as, you know, as it is a machine thing.
00:51:42.920But Tina Peters is simply an issue of right and wrong.
00:51:45.820She shouldn't be in there and she shouldn't be sentenced the way that she is, regardless
00:51:49.200of her being a Republican or a Republican clerk and regardless of Jared, regardless
00:52:06.900You need to do what it's right because that's the real signal that he's sending to the people
00:52:11.700of Colorado every day that this goes on.
00:52:15.960Last thing, you may not have any more information that we have, but we do, you know, Peter Tickton and Pat McSweeney and this great team on the federal side.
00:52:23.200She's got John Case locally, great legal team.
00:52:27.400They've been able to get a pardon from President Trump.
00:52:29.540There's all this controversy about, you know, whether it applies to state.
00:52:32.820It's, you know, it's never been, I think, litigated before.
00:52:36.820But also, given what's happening in Fulton County, given what's happened in Maricopa County, a lot of discussion there, particularly in Fulton County.
00:52:44.040I think in Maricopa County that people are taking things relevant at grand jury indictment in in in both Fulton and in Maricopa regarding the machines, more than just the mail-in ballots, more than just the ballots.
00:52:58.640This this this question of Tina Peters being called as a witness in a federal case and actually remanded to a federal prison.
00:53:07.780And that's been I think it's been stopped over some discussions.
00:53:10.640But do you know anything else is DOJ or anyone working on that to actually make her a party in as a federal witness in some of these investigations going on where then they can force they can force the Colorado Bureau of Prisons to turn her over to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, sir, and put her in a federal prison where then President Trump and the BOP and the DOJ can deal directly with her?
00:53:34.860Well, I know that those discussions have happened. I would not doubt at all. You know, again, I won't claim that I have any insider information regarding those investigations. But if you see some of those grand juries and what has actually been done and them coming in, it's obvious what they're going after. And it's obvious it's the very thing that, you know, Tina Peters has been talking about for so long. And the reason that she ended up realizing just what she had in that image for Mesa County.
00:54:02.620So I know that if there was a way that they could bring her in as a witness, I feel that that could be imminent.
00:54:08.480But truthfully, I don't know. That depends entirely on the investigation.
00:54:13.460And the biggest thing on that is they were already offered. Colorado was already offered.
00:54:18.460Hey, you're spending a lot of money. And what should be, you know, if you put someone on probation, a few thousand dollars for the head of your sentence,
00:54:27.740you're talking $500,000, $600,000 that they're putting on the taxpayer to put Tina Peters in
00:54:34.420prison. They were offered to hand her over to the feds to serve out her sentence at no cost
00:54:39.220to the state and they declined. Apollo, we got to bounce. Where do people go to hear the podcast,
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