WarRoom Battleground EP 984： Further News On The Revival, Which The Washington Post Attributes In Part To Charlie Kirk’s Death
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Summary
The Pope is poking the bear in the White House, and for now, Trump and the MAGA machine are not fighting back. For such a time as this, is Pope Leo, formerly known as Cardinal Robert Francis Provost, aware he now occupies a very, very unique position?
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I think Popplio is aware that there's a vacuum in terms of the opposition against the ethno-nationalist
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That's not just in America, but also in Europe.
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The entire discourse is dominated by the question of how far the right will go in conquering
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European countries, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, France, Germany, and there's not much talk about
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the alternative. And so here we are, the Pope is poking the bear in the White House,
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and for now, Trump and the MAGA machine are not fighting back. For such a time as this.
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Is Pope Leo, formerly known as Cardinal Robert Francis Provost, aware he now occupies a very,
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very unique position. I think he's perfectly aware that this started from the very beginning.
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If you remember the first few days after Leah's election in May, we had Steve Bannon saying that
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Travis was the worst possible choice because he was a socialist, he was a globalist, all of that.
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So far, Trump himself and J.D. Vance and other top officials, they have avoided, they have ignored the arguments made by the Vance.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had a belly full of it
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I know you don't like hearing that I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that
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but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go to share
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the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any of these people had a conscience
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ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country
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Good evening, Harrell here at the helm on Stephen Bannon's War Room.
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You'll notice it's not the usual Rome background for me this evening.
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That's because I have returned to my beloved homeland on mission,
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And I just want to, you know, I would address Deutsche Welle
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because it's a point that is made from time to time.
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Firstly, we're just getting started in our opposition
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And the more outrageous and lefty and globalist he is,
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you're going to find that the war room is going to be there
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And we're absolutely delighted to be born and living
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at this moment in time in order to be able to make
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that contribution. So the first thing is we're just getting started. And the second thing,
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it doesn't really matter if President Trump or the vice president are just taking all
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the incoming that the Vatican chooses to fire in their direction. It doesn't really matter
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because the importance is that MAGA is a movement and its power and political influence comes
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especially because we do this one-hour-a-week show,
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We have a largely evangelical audience, but the editorial policy is specifically to bring news for traditional Catholics.
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As long as those traditional Catholics feel empowered and feel their agency,
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which is something that Steve talks about basically every hour of his four hours of programming per day,
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that's fine. It doesn't matter if the political leadership sits it out.
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And in the end, and this is something we've been asking for since this show basically started five, six years ago, in the end, it's going to be the laity that will correct course on the church.
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It won't be the Highling Shepherds because all those Highling Shepherds have been responsible for is driving the church into the ground from its heyday in the 1950s to now basically dioceses having bankruptcies right across the West, closing seminaries and what have you.
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There are some green shoots showing, and we'll be talking about those a little later with Jenny Holland in the show, who very diligently follows these developments.
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But I'll make the point later that what we're seeing here needs to be understood in its context.
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The green shoots have a very particular purpose.
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OK, but we'll come to those points later. Let's start Frank Walker.
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Having spoken about Not My Pope VII just now, and he is definitely gearing up and making his opposition ever more clear, ever more visible.
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immediate predecessors, Walter, is calling an unprecedented attack on a head of state.
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He basically said that Trump's threat to destroy Iranian civilization is unacceptable.
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Now, I have to say, I wasn't a big fan of that comment myself, to be honest with you.
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But I think it's unacceptable that a religious leader is coming in here and using certain political events to enter the narrative and trying to get the story all about him.
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I think quite rightly, Frank Walker, tell me here, quite rightly, the administration's response will be, you know, your holiness, perhaps get your own house in order first, right?
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Well, that's certainly what you hear from the leader of the ICE program.
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He says that all the time, you know, as a Catholic, you need to get your own house in order.
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I think what happened with Trump in this, he's had a couple of very incendiary things that he has thrown out there lately.
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And, you know, all of the left and the people in the Catholic press that were supporting Leo and saying he's OK and he's very Catholic against all evidence at the beginning of his pontificate a year ago, they're all very, very never Trump right now.
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So you're mentioning the way Leo is never Trump all the time.
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And the mainstream press always likes to say his interventions are rare, but he makes them every single day.
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His most powerful interventions are always directly against Trump policy.
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So as soon as Trump came out with this civilizational, this will cause civilizational death to Iran yesterday,
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everybody, Leo was out there immediately to jump and all the Catholic press was against it.
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And Leo said, you can't kill a whole civilization.
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Well, he wasn't saying that when he was taught, he was just being colorful and talking about blowing up power plants and bridges.
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And as we see today, every single person in the catechism was going to say, you're going to go to hell if you follow Trump.
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We need J.D. Vance to become the president right away.
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And, you know, of course, all of the bishops now, the top American bishops were saying, this is unjust.
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And the very next morning, we have a peace agreement.
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We have a so-called sort of a ceasefire, a situation where the peace is there.
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And so Trump, you know, brilliantly has used all his opposition to make his point.
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They've made his point because he's proven to them that pacifism is not the solution.
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Pacifism never brings peace, that the war is not really necessarily unjust at all.
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You know, there's only been about—I want to see maybe 2,000 people have died in Iraq based on these combined American and Israeli attacks.
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But there's been almost 50,000 people that died protesting the government that's there.
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So you have a war that has been fought with limited casualties against military targets.
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And instead of just doing by surprise bombing the other civilizational targets like power plants, he gave them a warning.
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He told them what he was thinking of doing, and they responded with peace.
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And all of the people that were against him have been made to look like they didn't really want the peace at all.
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So I'm looking at these developments, Frank Walker, and I see the Pope's intervention.
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unconverted world, but you're not going to have peace
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because I'm assuming he said that and the press just missed it out
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because all I see here are references to international law
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Because I thought the Pope is supposed to be sort of Christ's vicar here on Earth,
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the head of the institution that is, obviously Christ is the head of the church.
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um um christ is the the church is christ's mystical body but in terms of earthly leadership
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that's the fact i'm assuming that his he was in invocating um invoking the um the prince of peace
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or no unfortunately i i have to say that i think the answer to that is no i think that
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he does not act like a victor of vicar of christ he did because he does he's clearly
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demonstrated that he doesn't hold the Catholic faith. Over and over again, he's demonstrated
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that he doesn't hold Catholic teaching. Just in a couple of weeks ago, they had evidence of him a
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couple of decades ago, bowing down before a Pachamama demon, which is, you know, it may seem
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like nothing to some people, but it's very important in the Catholic faith. We're in a
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situation now where we have Popes Francis and Leo, who are not Catholic, but they're there sort of as
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showing um then father bob before he was made a cardinal before he's made a bishop i'm assuming
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that those photos were taken quite some time ago but the young father bob prostrating himself
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with others prostrating themselves to this false idol tell me do you think this photo
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is even true is it ai is it doctored um has it been verified and what does it what would it mean
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if the present papal pretender was prostrating himself to idols?
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What does that mean for the Catholic Church?
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And it's part of his, they call it enculturation, but a ceremony.
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And Pope Francis also participated in a ceremony to the same idol.
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It's really a demon that uses human sacrifice.
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the kind of demon that they worshiped when the conquistadors came to Latin America and converted
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it. Well, this is sort of an anti-conversion. But things like this, well, that was completely
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overlooked in the current press. When Francis did it, it was at the Vatican. Things like this
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demonstrate that the pope is not a Catholic. And when you look at the bishop appointments,
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which means so much, one after another, after another, after another, there are people with
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bad histories, people that support anti-Catholic doctrine, things that are not Catholic, and
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support also the problems with abuse in the church. They create more abuse. So that's what
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I was referring to. So you have to remember that Leo cannot be expected to be Catholic.
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Now, he represents globalism. He represents the people who pay him, not Christ's church.
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And so we have, with this war going on, so much force against globalism, they flooded the zone.
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It's sort of like a propaganda war, and he's a propaganda tool.
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And all the people on the left are using it, including the people, the controlled resistance on the right.
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The people that were attacking Trump just yesterday, Taylor Marshall, Michael Matt from the Remnant,
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Bishop Strickland himself, LifeSite News, Catholics for Catholics, these are MAGA people,
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Carrie Baller and Candace Owens, and also people on the left like Michael Lofton, Lila Rose,
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all the traditional Catholics, everybody flooded the zone against Trump yesterday. Today,
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they're going to start to get quiet. And Leo is just a part of that. They want him to be the
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leader of that cause. And people from the hard left, like Lawrence O'Donnell, are going to help
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leo and so that's what you have you have a tool of the left acting as a catholic pope and you
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can't be taken in by and i believe that catholics like you were mentioning earlier mega catholics
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that have are discerning and faithful they're not going to be taken in by leo
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um well not if they're watching the war room they won't be doing um i think we've had his number
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uh since day one but just to just synthesize this because i think the juxtaposition is perfect
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The guy currently acting as the honorary chaplain for the New World Order, decades ago, was prostrating himself down to an idol, a demon.
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And that's the same Pachamama that the young Alexander Chugo went into the church upon the Via della Reconciliazione,
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filled himself on his social media going down to the Tiber,
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Folks on the wall will remember that it's the same idol.
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A demon that accepts human sacrifices is what the present guy,
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in the name of peace, in the name of the Christless peace
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that he's offering, is now putting himself forward
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to president trump all right well we'll continue to monitor this frank standby we're back
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I think I just found the third best Catholic church
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My name is Anthony, and for the past five weeks,
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I've been visiting and ranking every Catholic church
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and highlight places with a good young adult community.
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And what happened this week is gonna shock you.
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It was a cozy mass, and the priest was pretty inspirational.
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Guys, that's a crazy number for some random church in New York.
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And young adults are putting Catholicism on the rise.
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So let's keep this momentum going and drop a follow to be a part of the movement
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Jenny Holland, Gen Z is coming back to God.
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This is something that I think you're one of the world leaders on the phenomenon on this, watching what's going on on social media.
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Tell us, tell the Warren Posse, exactly what was in, I think it's the Washington Post article, right, on exactly this phenomenon.
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Well, if I am the world leader on this, then God does indeed work in mysterious ways, Ben.
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Yes. So that is a very interesting Instagram, TikTok, sorry, video from an account of a young man called Anthony Gross, who was profiled in a Washington Post style section article entitled Why Catholicism is Drawing Gen Z Men In.
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And I wanted to share that with you, that particular TikTok video, because what surprised me about it was, as he mentions this much smaller congregation, not the St. Joe's that we have referenced multiple times now in our weekly look into Catholicism, but a smaller congregation admitting or welcoming in 25, he said young adults at Easter as converts.
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So it really does show, yet again, that this observation that we have been continually making really has legs, that young men in particular, but not only, young people in general, in Gen Z, are finding refuge from secular bankruptcy, moral and spiritual bankruptcy, in the Catholic Church.
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The Washington Post article is very interesting, and I do suggest you go read it, especially if you can put it in an archive link and get it for free.
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It's very interesting because, well, one small tell is that it's written by not a religious affairs correspondent, which of course would give it some sort of gravitas as far as the Post is concerned, but rather a sort of style section trend guy.
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But what they say, what the people profiled in it say very interesting things.
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One young man who asked not to have his full name given made a point about what they call Theobros.
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So there is this online trend that kind of maybe is sort of a spinoff of the quote-unquote manosphere,
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young men looking to instill their lives with discipline and morality.
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And some of those offshoots are kind of a very warped manifestation.
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But in terms of the Catholicism, he gave this very interesting sort of juxtaposition between Theobros who are looking to the Catholic Church for rules and power based sort of reasons versus people like himself who are looking for community and service.
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You know, my point, though, is in that observation is that the rules and power base part of this is actually very, very important.
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And I wrote a sub stack about this last Sunday for Easter specifically, that actually the service in the community are very, very valuable and crucial and foundational.
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And you can see that with this article specifically mentioning St. Joseph's in Greenwich Village in New York.
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But the rules and power are necessary as well, and we can't have one without the other.
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And I think the fact that young men are seeking out the harder aspects of Catholicism, i.e. the strict rules on moral behavior, is important.
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A very, very interesting fact point in this article, though, is that St. Joseph's, again, in Greenwich Village, New York City, the heart of sort of left-wing inspired, sexually profligate counterculture that has then started out as counterculture but became the dominant culture of mainstream America in the course of my lifetime and my parents' lifetime,
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went from having about, I think it was 13 to 16 converts per year up until 2020 to 35 last year
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to 88 this year. So more than doubled in one year, people joining the Catholic Church and
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taking the rites of initiation. That is incredible. Again, I cannot emphasize this enough.
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This is not just America. This is New York City. It's not just New York City. It's Manhattan. It's not just Manhattan. It's Greenwich Village. People are flocking to this church. Up to 200 people or sometimes more than 200 people stay for the social event after the Sunday evening mass.
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And I know that young people are leaving in greater numbers,
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but it's very important to note that the people who are joining
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are going to be more traditional and more foundational
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or a quantity over quality phenomenon that's happening right now.
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I did notice in this story, Jenny, that a couple of people
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in this article are mentioned as crediting the assassination of Charlie Kirk
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for their rediscovery of their Christian faith.
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And that would definitely corroborate the thesis that we had on the war room right at that time,
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that there will be fruit, the Holy Spirit will bring about fruit out of that heinous evil act,
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and you come on every Wednesday and you give us these developments.
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And this article in The Washington Post, it's not a negative article.
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It's a very positive article in its recognizing this trend, right?
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I mean, I think, first of all, if you don't want to be part of a club that is The Washington Post, that's number one.
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Number two, though, is that I always find that there's always backhanded compliments given in these when an establishment organization sort of deigns to descend among the common muck and the rabble and and try and give them a fair shake by representing them somewhat correctly.
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They do try to tie it to the manosphere in ways that I don't think is fair.
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Jenny, hold on. We'll continue this point in two minutes after this short break.
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Let's play some sound from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth,
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who has discussed religion and war in recent briefings and interviews
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to give us some context around these comments from the Pope.
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Frustrate the wicked plans and break the teeth of the ungodly.
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By the blast of your anger, let the evil perish.
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Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle.
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May the Lord grant unyielding strength and refuge to our warriors.
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The providence of our almighty God is there protecting those troops.
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So talk about the significance of that language,
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especially when discussed in the context of this conflict with Iran.
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well it's really significant because pete hexath is praying for overwhelming violence
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against those who deserve no mercy at a christian worship service i mean the pope comes back with
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what about gethsemane i mean jesus rebukes the disciple who draws the sword i mean jesus of the
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gospel refused the sword even to save his own life so i think one of the positions here is actually
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rooted in the new testament and the other one is christian nationalism which in my opinion is a
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contradiction in terms so i think it's really very interesting that the two are pitted against each
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other and the pope is kind of taking it on you know heads on welcome back we're gonna finish
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the point with jenny in just a moment talking about gen z frank walker um jenny's talking about
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all these young guys these 20 year old guys the gym bros the the the catholic bros right coming
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to church for the same time for the first time i think that's as we made the point before on the
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show this is really um in spite of the bishop's best efforts and not because of anything they've
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been doing to encourage that this revival is taking place what are they going to think these
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20-year-old guys right when they're fired up with the the faith um and they see priests like this
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where did where did CNN get this guy from I gather um he was what he's Chris Cuomo's favorite priest
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but I reckon that the the influencers the the bros are going to be bringing people into the church
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and just as fast as they're coming in priests like this are going to frighten them all off again
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yeah they will and and i think that the um i think that the apparatus of leo church is at work
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trying to find ways to take these young men and twist their idea of what catholicism is they're
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they're gonna kind of swoop in there and give them the wrong ideas a lot but they're gonna
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have to use their own like like they have the power of the internet to find their way through
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that. This priest here knows exactly what the game is. And, you know, both of those guys on that
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clip, they have a permanent frown on their face. His manner is so off-putting. I think he's from
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a parish in fancy Scarsdale, New York or something. But that idea of Christian nationalism is just
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put out there to sort of censor the more power-related aspects of Christianity, like the
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real teaching. He's appealing to God to strike the evildoers, to strike people that are the bad
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guys, really, and to use his power against them and to protect their own troops. There's nothing
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wrong with any of that, but he makes it look like what they're saying is not Christian because he's
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advocating for violence. And he says that Christ himself told Peter to put away the sword, but
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that's because Peter was trying to stop him from actually sacrifice. You know, that's Jesus. Jesus
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gave his life voluntarily as a sacrifice for all of us. But that doesn't mean that we all need to
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be victims of unjust violence, which is what Pope Leo and his pacifism and Father Beck who's
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defending him are trying to get everybody to do. Say that it's illegal to defend yourself with the
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sword. They're defending people in Iran, a lot of people. Those soldiers, they're killing people,
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but they're also risking their lives. And for other people that are weaker, for people all
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around the world geopolitically to give them power, like the Trump administration writes about
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people being sovereign in their security document, that being people are independent and sovereign
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countries, and they're trying to help the Middle East become that way. So Pope Leo is all against
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that. Father Beck says something here that's very key to understand Pope Leo. He says, I think
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Christians have to ask, in particular Catholics, who do you align yourself with? Where do you stand?
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Do you accept the Pope saying that Jesus is nonviolent, that this war is immoral, or do you
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look at people who really are having very difficult, I think, issues trying to allow
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christian scriptures to justify their positions they're not doing that they're simply praying
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by using the bible like many good protestants do i wouldn't i wouldn't agree with him at all about
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that i don't agree with him at all um either and you you said you cited um you you cited um um
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our lord's words to peter he who lives by the sword dies by the sword you know that's a that's
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a very um powerful expression and it has been sort of um considered theologians have been looking at
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that sort of basically 2 000 years um and of course the catholic church has just war theory
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under its belt which is a which is a key part of sort of catholic teaching i i say this because he
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who lives by the sword dies by the sword isn't necessarily the pacifist mantra that you could
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without studying it easily assume it to be it's simply saying that that if you if you if you um
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if you resort to violence that violence that circle of violence is going to continue and it's
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going to consume you as well um and that's that's the that's the proper context oh by the way it's
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a very pertinent warning i i think and and all people all catholics all people of good will
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need to have that thought percolating at the back of their minds all the time because you know we
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where there is a circle of violence we need to get out of it but as i say just war theory and
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suggests that at times fighting is a legitimate bearing arms is a is a legitimate response
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And that's what you don't get from today's Vatican, Frank.
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The problem with today's Vatican is that it doesn't measure everything.
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It's just like a superficial, particularly targeted extract of a quote,
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always in a globalist, pseudo-pacifist interpretation.
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He says that popes never made these kinds of interventions with Americans before,
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I think that Pete Hedges' quotes of the Bible are carefully selected.
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I think he's teaching the world about what a just war is.
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He's trying to help us see the big picture, the full scale of picture, not this abridged thing like you said.
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Vance is over in Hungary talking about Jesus and Easter.
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And Trump's putting up a picture of Jesus in the White House and giving these great Easter statements.
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it's all very appropriate to bring Christianity back into the place where it belonged. Trump is
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even every day, I mean, he's saying that he's noting what you and Jen were just talking about,
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the incredible growth of religion. They're supporting it, they're encouraging it,
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and they're praising it as it happens. This is the kind of people that America really are.
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They're giving us back what our birthright is, which is our Christian ability to have Christian
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heritage and Christian power and brave men who fight for the country and fight for everybody
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else too with their it's heroic and what pope and what leo and this father ed rebecca are promoting
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is cowardice they're calling it justice they're saying it's unjust war but really what they want
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is failure they're advocating on the side of the enemies of this project just like they did you
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know they do in ukraine too they're what they want is cowardice and then and they're teaching it and
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calling it you know war uh just war theory they're dressed they are dressing up cowardice
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and with the veneer of religiosity um let me just throw this because i do want to continue the point
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with jenny that we're talking about before let me just conclude then with this well first of all
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here's what pope leo said he said that god does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war
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but rejects them, saying, even though you make many prayers,
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to representatives of Islam when he gets together with them, right?
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But I tell you what I found most objectionable about this segment on CNN
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is his father, Beck, and Pamela Brown, the CNN journalist,
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attacked Pete Hegseth's, in their words, unqualified use of the Christian language.
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It's just so patronizing, but only to certain Christians,
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that they could say, you are unqualified even to use Christian formulation.
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And I don't mean by the religious priestly clerical class, because you've got the CNN woman there, but we are the superior social clerical class, which of course they are, when the state itself has assumed the role of the church.
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They are a priestly class in a medieval mold, and they are saying who can use Christian language or not.
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Yeah, and Pope Leo, in that quote where he says, your hands are full of blood, he took that out of context.
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That section of the Bible, the prophet is condemning that society before him as being corrupt in every way, not just in unjust violence, but in every single way.
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God says, I don't want your sacrifices if you can't even be good people.
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I want you to be good people and virtuous first.
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So it's really not about war, and it's not about violence.
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Ed Rebecca has many lies like that in this picture, including saying that he's not qualified.
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And, of course, Leo is the one that's qualified.
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He's allowed to talk not just about religion and use Christian language.
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He's also qualified to talk about politics as well.
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you were saying um before the break just finish that and then we'll talk about this article by
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lord frost in the daily telegraph you were saying something that you um that you don't subscribe
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to all elements of the manos the manosphere agenda on social media no not at all uh it's not meant
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for me, though, anyway. I'm a middle-aged woman, so it's not really... I don't think you are the
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intended audience. I'm definitely not the intended audience. I'm old enough to be their mother.
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But, no, actually, to tie the Gen Z point to what you and Frank were just talking about,
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like, this is the reality. There is a parallel to this debate about Iran
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happening in the domestic and social sphere. And I'll tell you exactly what that is.
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So someone like that priest who was interviewed on CNN, I mean, check out the optics. He's
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literally a gray-haired old man talking to one of the most cosseted and protected and materially
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spoiled women ever to exist in the history of mankind. And they're sitting there giving forth
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these platitudes about what constitutes justice and what constitutes the proper application of
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force, as if either of them had ever been anywhere close to the wisdom that is required to make that
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determination. But do you know who is much closer, in fact? Young men. Young men are the ones who are
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going to face the reality of a potential ground war. But at home, young men are the ones who are
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facing what some people are calling an impending economic apocalypse in terms of jobs. They are
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facing certainly huge amounts of economic crisis in terms of cost of living. They are facing a
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sort of social extreme ostracization in woke, which is a demonic thought system that has to a
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very large degree supplanted Judeo-Christian values in every single institution, unless Trump
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has managed to root it out, which he hasn't fully, despite his best efforts. So young men are in a
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much better place to determine what is the best moral direction that these questions should move
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towards. And in the second article that we were going to talk about, which was in the UK Telegraph,
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not by a Gen Z person, quite the opposite, by an old sort of august establishment figure
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who's asking his readership to take seriously the issue of Christianity and whether or not
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it's true. And he's remarking sort of anecdotally that he's seeing a rise in an interest in this
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among young people. And one of the things he mentions is, yes, progressive wokeness is obviously
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a huge issue, but also is a very sort of insurgent and confident Islam. And who amongst the British
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population are the people who are most affected by this? Young people, young white British people.
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Do I have to remind people about the rape gang ongoing horrors that have not been fully addressed
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and they have apparently not even been fully rooted out, as in many people are saying that
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they're still ongoing. So if you're faced with the young, it's young people who are at the
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coalface of the spiritual war that is happening. And it's absolutely no wonder that they are not
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going to listen to the establishment church figures, especially not in the Church of England
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for the love of God. I mean, what an absolute holy show that is. All of these platitudes and
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we welcome everyone, everyone's equal and everyone has value. Well, then what's the point of even
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being a church. Obviously, humans are all equal in the eye of God. But again, going back to my
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point with this rules-based versus community-based perception of religion, you need both. But what
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many people need now is the sort of harder application of rules to protect our own home
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And that is what the Gen Z Christian revival
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You know, it seems to me, because you mentioned this,
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But people say it as if they thought it up themselves, even though they always use the same words.
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I don't sort of, I believe in God, they'll say, but I don't believe in organized religion.
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And then some people hit the rules thing that you're mentioning.
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And I get the idea, especially when I hear something about their private lives,
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it's not the rules that they're particularly, the idea about their being disciplined or the rules.
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It's the fact that their private lives are on the wrong side of the rules.
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But they dress it up, again, with the veneer of intellectualism.
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And I think it's like, you know, because you and I, Jenny,
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that there was some remnants of institutional Christianity
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when we were at school, when we were growing up.
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the present generation that gen z has literally had nothing it's grown up in a wilderness and
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they know how barren that wilderness is right that's why they're coming back and and they've
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been frightened off by by the by our generation as parents talking about the rules and their
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discipline and the church wants to tell you what to do and all the rest of it um and they're looking
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for themselves and they think actually it's it's a lot the reality is a lot deeper than than what
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we've been sold. And they've been attracted to this reality, right? Absolutely. And Gen Z are
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the first people to grow up fully digital. I mean, I know a lot of millennials have as well,
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but Gen Z are the first generation to not remember a time before the internet. And so they're also
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the generation that has been exposed from early, very, very, very early on in their years to the
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horrors of online pornography, um, to the shallow competition, um, and performative nonsense of
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social media. Um, and, and also, and then, I mean, the positive side, as the Daily Telegraph
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article mentions to the kind of Catholic and maybe evangelical as well. Um, I suppose you
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could call them influencers, uh, people who, who are just speaking even basic truth about religion
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that has huge resonance to young people who have grown up without it.
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I mean, I know from personal experience, just anecdotally,
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people who have grown up with very permissive parents
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because all humans need rules, young people especially.
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The article in the Daily Telegraph, by the way, by Lord Frost,
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is Britain is quietly awakening to full-fat supernatural Christianity.
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We'll try and get the link out very, very quickly, guys.
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