00:03:27.300And I have to say that I'm glad that POTUS pushed back against Pope Leo on this,
00:03:33.620though I sort of feel that the precise comments that he used
00:03:41.540won't land with the primary audience that he was probably aiming for,
00:03:48.860which is Catholics who are open to what he is trying to do.
00:03:55.420And I can say a bit more about that as we take the show forward.
00:03:59.500But I'm very glad that he has pushed back.
00:04:02.260And you can see the usual stick of increasingly political cardinals
00:04:08.640and indeed popes is they make a political intervention.
00:04:14.100And then when there's pushback, and it's not normally ever as strong as this,
00:04:17.660This was quite unprecedented in some ways.
00:04:20.180But when there's pushback, they say, we're not politicians.
00:04:25.480We're just making an intervention on behalf of our first principles.
00:04:30.500You know, and he even said, basically, after rolling the grenade in through the door and then running off, I don't want to debate with President Trump.
00:04:39.780Well, I bet you don't, mate, because debate means analysis and questioning of assumptions.
00:04:45.720And that's really what politics is about. That's why a two party political system, either really in the UK or America, is so good at getting out both sides of the argument.
00:04:57.660That might not be more than that. They might not achieve anything more than that in terms of adding to the sum total of knowledge.
00:05:05.220But at least we have the thesis and the antithesis. Right. People can look at that and decide which side lands with them.
00:05:13.720So, and I will say what I think perhaps, if there's time, what I think perhaps President Trump might have considered in his response, because, and J.D. Holland's going to add something to this debate as well on the fact that there is a Catholic position in favour of this war in Iran.
00:05:36.760um but let's first of all frank tell us basically sketch out for us how this feud started i think
00:05:44.860fundamentally started around easter sunday right um with the pope's remarks and then of course
00:05:50.320um uh pope president trump being president trump when there's an attack he responds and then the
00:05:57.600pope responds and then the president responds and we've been entertained by this twitter feud
00:06:02.760if i might call it that um on social media fundamentally um since then to bring us up
00:06:11.520to date with the latest exchange here between the pope and the president well it's um it's been
00:06:19.400constant really it's been almost every single day pope leo will make an intervention against this
00:06:26.180war ever since it started back in February. So I know on Palm Sunday he did. He certainly used
00:06:34.860the Good Friday via crucis to make the same speech, always about war, always against war,
00:06:43.860always pacifist in his speech. But I was surprised when Trump intervened because you remember the
00:06:50.740whole time that we had Francis, Francis was pretty direct occasionally. He wasn't direct
00:06:55.180every single day like Leo is. But, you know, he came to America and he said that Trump wasn't a
00:07:00.500Christian because of the way he handled illegal aliens. But, I mean, even back when
00:07:07.160Cardinal Cupich was going to give an award to Senator Dick Durbin for, you know, even though
00:07:14.320he was a horrible pro-late-term abortion guy, hope Leo defended him. He said, you can't be
00:07:20.720pro-life and be against illegal aliens or had this mistreatment of illegal aliens.
00:07:25.020So he's been direct the entire time. But you mentioned how there's this Twitter war.
00:07:31.340And when you look at the Trad Catholic Press or the Faithful Catholic Press, I think it is Faithful Catholic Press, they are almost 100 percent against Trump.
00:07:42.180In fact, they're targeting Trump directly and their kid gloves with Pope Leo.
00:07:47.160And that's the kind of thing that I think has really gotten Trump where he had to respond.
00:07:52.720This kind of a thing, Pope Leo, when he showed up a year ago, everybody was so excited about his
00:07:57.200manner. And I was thinking, well, he's a gentle manner. That's better than Francis. But you can
00:08:01.880see it here, how effective he is at doing what, like you said, I'm just preaching the gospel,
00:08:07.340man. This is just the gospel. And if you see the three cardinals on 60 Minutes, Cardinal
00:08:13.120Tobin, you know, he says, it doesn't really matter. He wouldn't say anything about it if
00:08:19.020it wasn't important. It must be important because he's speaking of God. And that means all the
00:08:24.660political enemies, like you said, on the right, they're all evil. And they have the church behind
00:08:30.980them. This trick started back in Latin America, you know, 40 years ago or so. There's a saint now,0.98
00:08:39.340there was the same kind of guy as Pope Leo, Francis's Saint Oscar Romero, who told the
00:08:45.600the soldiers to lay down their arms against the communists in battle. He did the same thing,
00:08:50.500except for in that small microcosm of what we have all over the world now today. So what you have
00:08:55.160is an operative. You know, David Axelrod, Obama's number one guy, was in the Vatican,
00:09:01.480and Leo put off a whole meeting with the Olympians for half an hour so that he could meet with him
00:09:06.940and strategize. This is the Obama pope. He's selected, just like Francis was, he's selected
00:09:13.600to be a political operative, not what a pope would do. Cardinal Tobin says whatever he says,
00:09:19.700it's important, but that's because it doesn't really matter whether it's Catholic or not.
00:09:23.320The things that Leo says are not Catholic, which J.D. Vance has made very clear just lately,
00:09:28.760if he were a Catholic pope, he would not be doing political battle with Trump. He would recognize
00:09:34.480that so much of what is part of Christianity is protected by the right. What he's creating,0.94
00:09:41.480He's giving us back the globalist enemies of Christ through this political, you know, very effective, I think, political thing.
00:09:50.040I don't know where Trump's going to go because, like, his message was very strong, just like his message before the peace ceasefire a week ago.
00:09:59.960So, but I do think he has some method to his madness.
00:10:02.900And the fact that he's now signaled out Leo for, you know, as sort of an adversary, I don't think that necessarily people say, well, that's bad for Trump.
00:10:13.240I don't think it necessarily will be because Trump was persistent and he may have some effect down the line.
00:11:26.460but they both came out and said that you shouldn't really be a president trump shouldn't
00:11:34.160really be attacking the pope um given that and this is why i would pick on some of the words
00:11:42.840that president trump used in his response and i repeat if you're just joining us now in the last
00:11:48.62020 seconds i am delighted president trump has responded and pushed back with force
00:11:54.340I just think some of what he said was a little unfocused and allowed people to the easier way out of the veneer of obedience and sentimental respect for the institutional Catholic Church where it's not appropriate here.
00:12:13.360people and people need to take a stand and this is the lining now this feud really is going to be
00:12:19.360a stumbling block to scandal on in greek um and you can look at that stumbling block and either
00:12:28.340uh as in the new testament as in how saint paul used it and trip over it and stumble on it or you
00:12:36.620can find that a rock of your faith. And what I mean by that is President Trump is pushing
00:12:43.800back on against Pope Leo, also on the immigration front, hence the week on crime accusation.
00:12:54.180And we are each Catholics in public life, basically now being invited to take a position
00:13:00.940Because the invasion is an existential threat to all of these countries in the West
00:13:09.200And as we'll talk about later on in the show, Frank, the 60 Minutes
00:13:14.180This is the preview, the 60 Minutes puff piece
00:13:20.580On the three probably arguably most important US cardinals
00:13:25.320The Pope, as that 60 minutes segment makes clear
00:13:31.720The Pope is now assuming the mantle of the global leader
00:13:45.080The pro-invasion resistance to President Trump
00:13:49.180And what President Trump is trying to do
00:13:50.660That's why we as Catholics need to take a stand
00:13:53.120You cannot. It is impossible. And Italy is a perfect example of this.
00:13:58.720You cannot play nicey-nicey in the television cameras and say, oh, it's the Pope's untouchable.
00:14:03.880He's like the Queen Mother. You can't attack the Pope.
00:14:06.300You can't do that and at the same time fight hard against the political program that that person is heading up.
00:14:15.880It won't work. And that's why Italy is awash with the invasion right now, because Italian politicians have been weak in confronting the Catholic Church.0.69
00:14:31.520And so, Frank, I think that's the good thing, the beauty about the prison situation and how you see all these people who've been, they're being smoked out now.
00:14:43.980Whether that was POTUS's intention or not, probably not, but the fact that he decided he was going to push back against the Pope, all the hacks in Trad Inc. now are being smoked out and you can see the performative nature of their public positions in all its own glory, right? Isn't that right, Frank? You can see them now. If you couldn't see it before, you can now see it.
00:15:12.400I hope that they remember them. Remember who these people are. It's like during the COVID. There's a wall of media propaganda against Trump and against Catholics that recognize that Pope Leo is not Catholic. He's not doing his job.
00:15:29.240In fact, it's so sad. Ever since Francis, the idea of you can't have a Catholic pope. Remember, we had Benedict step down during the Obama administration, and we had two popes. Benedict even dressed like a pope. So you had an un-Catholic pope, and you had a Catholic pope. This is not a normal situation.
00:15:47.440So now you have all the cardinals that he made, and then you have Leo, and nobody in the entire world, the entire media, the entire Catholic intelligentsia will address it.
00:15:58.080It's left only to Trump and today J.D. Vance, and it's good, and it's not going to be good for the Leo church because just like in Latin America, they're going to hurt from this battle.0.59
00:16:08.480But the Catholics have abandoned the job and they've left it just to Trump to point out that Leo is not a Catholic.
00:16:17.060And Tom Homan, you know, and today J.D. Vance says, you know, I pay attention.
00:16:36.420And a powerful person like Trump needs to recognize that something has undermined the Catholic Church, this Catholic spring, this Axelrod and Obama in the Vatican.
00:16:46.720That thing needs to be corrected because the church has obviously lost the power and support that it had.
00:16:52.300And you need to have the support of power, otherwise you're going to be corrupted.
00:16:55.940There's a corruption in the church that needs to be addressed by powerful people.
00:21:55.500And I'm absolutely not going to parade my virtue-signalling Catholic persona
00:22:01.180on social media criticising the president for having published it.
00:22:05.600I repeat, there was no actual, and it just shows you0.94
00:22:08.880how little of Christian iconography half of the people promoting themselves0.72
00:22:16.180on social media as Catholics understand.
00:22:19.320There was nothing in there, nothing in there whatsoever identifiable
00:22:23.520or recognisable as Christ-like in the way that the AI had conjured up the president.
00:22:33.920Absolutely nothing, not the vestments, not the little ball of light in the hand.
00:22:38.260There's no paintings. We've had Western classical art since the Renaissance, about 600, 700 years. Not a single painting am I familiar with in that period of Catholic Christian iconography has ever depicted our Lord and Saviour in that fashion. It was just an AI conjuring.
00:22:55.320Anyway, anyway, Jenny Holland, you did want to say something on this segment about the Catholic position in favor of the war.
00:23:13.780There has finally been a public statement or a public think piece on the justification for the war, according to Catholic doctrine.
00:23:23.560And it appeared in the free press, which cynics might say is convenient because I'm surmising that the free press being very pro-Israel is also pro the Iran war.
00:23:38.900But nonetheless, putting that aside, I've been wondering for quite a while now, not just with the war in Iran, but in general, where is the sort of more muscular, less squishy liberal version of Catholicism and Christianity generally, in fact?
00:23:56.940Because, I mean, I'm and I am far from the expert on this, but I seem to remember growing up that there was there was this idea that you could go to war and it still be a just cause in terms of the faith.
00:24:12.060And so it's a priest by the name of Gerald Murray, who is a father in a parish in Manhattan, and he writes that Iran meets the criteria for a just war, which is defense, essentially, defending your own people and your own flock.
00:24:34.280And he attributes this going all the way back to St. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, and he quotes from the Catechism, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and I'll read what that says.
00:24:47.120It teaches that governments have the right to engage in, quote, legitimate defense by military force in response to aggression that is lasting grave and certain when all other means of putting an end to it have been shown to be impractical or ineffective.
00:25:01.480Now, I understand that there is a big debate raging among MAGA and other people as to whether Iran meets that criteria, but there is a legitimate argument to say that it does.
00:25:13.360And I find it interesting that this argument is being put forth by some priest from Manhattan and not from the Pope himself.
00:25:22.000I also would like to ask the you guys or the audience, has Pope Leo condemned the Iranian government, now defunct, for the crackdown on its own people that left tens of thousands of Iranian citizens slaughtered?
00:25:39.860And as far as I know, and correct me if I'm wrong, he really hasn't come out and spoken about how terrible war is in that regard.
00:25:48.820Um, again, Iran is a theocracy, um, and I do not, I am not a proponent of holy war in any circumstance, but as, as the head of the Catholic Church and the billions of Catholics across the world, you would think that Leo might be a little bit more circumspect and not have this sort of liberal knee-jerk reaction.
00:26:13.060and he would have some understanding of these forces that are at play
00:26:18.840where a Christian nation, the Christian West,
00:26:27.080is involved in a battle with a theocracy.
00:26:32.220Now, I just find it very strange that that has not passed his lips.
00:26:35.760I don't find it that strange because I understand the reality on the ground,
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00:32:40.220Well, I am not a neocon, but I am a flexible pragmatist.
00:32:45.580And I do not have the same sort of deep qualms about the war in Iran, although I have qualms about war generally, that many MAGA people do, primarily because I don't see Iran as the same as Iraq.
00:33:04.040And I just think it's a different argument and it's a different situation.
00:33:07.200I did note the priest who wrote this piece, I'm not sure if you're more familiar with him than I am, but I want to reiterate, I have been searching the internet and wondering why we don't hear more, even if you detach it from the Iran specifics.
00:33:27.560Why don't we hear more from the Catholic hierarchy about a robust defense of Western values and Western people and the safety of Western people?
00:33:41.820I mean, this is something that we talk about all the time in regards to immigration and other moral issues. It's like the foundations of the church, which when I was a kid, I perceived, perhaps wrongly, as being conservative, as in conserve your identity and conserve your nation.
00:34:00.360Where has that gone? And it has not come from Pope Leo, as you rightly point out. It has come from Trump, as profane as he may be. But it does seem to be presented by this Father Murray.
00:34:15.320Okay, so on to Father Murray's point, here's what I will say. And I'll say it just openly that I'm against the whole, everything that the US has done from the 28th of February onwards, I'm pretty much against.
00:35:00.720And I would say the application of those principles is a prudential issue that belongs to Catholics, Christians or men and women of goodwill to decide for themselves in the recesses of their own hearts, informed by their conscience.
00:35:23.480And that conscience informed absolutely, I would hope, by the fullness of the teaching of the church through the ages.
00:35:30.720on how to apply those principles to a specific case.
00:35:34.220And I would have suggested an intelligent thing for any Christian to do0.97
00:35:41.520would be to say that as a Christian, that there are principles of just war
00:35:47.860and it belongs to each individual to work out for themselves in prayer
00:35:55.520whether any present situation satisfies those principles.
00:36:00.720That's not what the Pope has done. He's done his pseudo platitudes, his pseudo papal platitudes on peace founded on the shoulders of international law, as he said in explicitly in the cold open at the beginning of the show.
00:36:22.380And that's what I find most offensive, because if you really want, if you are, especially if you are Catholic, but not necessarily any Christian, believing Christian, if you want authentic peace in the world, then the only way to bring that about is via the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ himself.
00:36:43.120That's how you're going to have true Christian peace.0.54
00:36:46.860And that involves converting peoples, especially peoples who have different concepts of God.
00:36:53.980And of course, it requires you to say that one culture might be better than another.
00:36:59.380It requires you to say that one set of truth beliefs might be more true than another.
00:37:07.120And that's something that the modernists, the relativists who are modernists, who are winning the Catholic Church into the ground will never do, because fundamentally they don't believe, not in Christianity.
00:37:19.400They believe in secular peace. And that's what I found most offensive about the Pope, putting on the vestments of religion, saying that he believes he's here to promote peace and the gospel.
00:37:35.120And he quotes the Beatitudes, but there's no reference of Christ in there.
00:37:40.000In fact, we saw in an amazing juxtaposition provided to us by divine providence itself,
00:37:49.740we see pictures of the so-called Pope going to the mosque in Algeria, taking his shoes off,
00:37:56.080bowing his head silent in prayer, saying it's a fit place of worship.
00:38:19.900We are in agreement on that point, that what Pope Leo says are liberal platitudes, modernist, secular, liberal platitudes, and not Catholic teaching or doctrine.
00:38:30.800And like we spoke about last week, I would prefer to see the full-fat version. If you're going to have it, have the full-fat version. And nor have I heard him say anything condemning the Iranian regime, now defunct, for slaughtering its own citizens en masse several months ago.
00:38:47.900So, yeah, I mean, I think on that point, Ben, we are definitely in agreement. Now, you mentioned the phony Maloney, as you call her.0.99
00:38:56.280I'm sorry, before you segue, before you segue, the regime in the round, because you mentioned it earlier as well, it's not defunct. It's underground.
00:39:06.760But it's – please don't. Please don't say it's defunct because – no, no, no, you can't. No, no, you can't because I have a position open on Polymarket on this.
00:39:18.140The regime is certainly very much on its two feet.
00:39:22.640Go on. I know you're desperate and chomping at the bit to mention Phoney Maloney has been savaged by POTUS.
00:39:33.080Well, your bets on the regime aside, I was referring to the Ayatollah who was taken out in that first strike a few weeks, months ago.
00:39:40.980Yeah. So Phoney Maloney, as you call her.0.86
00:39:43.120And again, we will disagree on this because I am partial to her with caveats.
00:39:48.140She has come out and said, in defense of the Pope, and called Trump's remarks unacceptable.
00:39:58.340And anyone surprised by this is a bit like being surprised that a bear does number two in the woods.0.95
00:40:05.460They are Italians. They are going to defend the Pope.
00:40:09.420I feel like this is not really a newsworthy or a particularly controversial take for her to have.
00:40:16.420I remain a defender of Maloney because I do think that although policy and effective governance and maybe she's fallen down in those regards and in ways, I do think that robust and in-your-face messaging is still incredibly important.
00:40:42.480And she has maintained that on issues that are very dear to me, including things like surrogacy and transing of minors.
00:40:52.060So I'm willing to give her some grace because also she is the head of the Italian government, which is like being that being a snake handler of like many bags of snakes.
00:41:01.040I don't think there's a more complex country in Europe to rule over. And I'm quite impressed by her public performance.
00:41:10.560So, you know, while I understand that she is not 100% true blue, or I suppose red it would be, on her dealings with various issues and she's fallen down in a few places, I will go to my grave something of a fangirl of her because I think her PR is extremely strong and I don't think that's a shallow thing.
00:41:36.160i think that's a very important thing um it would be better if it was backed up by all of the
00:41:41.080policies but i think it's that i think that's important her pr i do think that's let's not
00:41:47.380forget pr is basically the most important consonants in the word performative um yeah
00:41:56.400pr has been fantastic fantastic um i on the other hand i think she gives morale i think she's a
00:42:04.060morale booster that's what i think not to um here's what i think right because0.99
00:42:10.420phony maloney set herself up as the bridge between america and the european union between1.00
00:42:20.600maga and the european commission no one asked her to do this but she quite skillfully played0.99
00:42:27.820both sides off one another um and that was the the word the bridge that was the the noun that
00:42:33.800the whole of her government was using for about six months um and i tried to say here to the press
00:42:41.320in italy but they didn't believe me because they've all been drinking the kool-aid just
00:42:44.560like you have jenny they they all thought that she was really in mar-a-lago and all the rest of it
00:42:50.080um well anyway whether that was true or whether that was not true it is no longer true that is
00:42:56.980for sure and potas has seen the light and he says of her phoniness i thought she was brave
00:43:05.180but i was wrong and yes sir but you know what better late than never look um we don't have
00:43:11.360very much left for the show i did a shout out and then we're going to come to frank
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00:45:45.880Denver, if you would kindly play the one-minute clip from 60 Minutes to set Frank Walker up.
00:45:54.640He started in January with a speech criticizing U.S. military action in Venezuela.
00:46:00.600After that, the Vatican's ambassador in the U.S. was called to the Pentagon for a meeting,
00:46:08.060which two church officials described to 60 Minutes as unpleasant and contentious.
00:46:14.060Since our visit, the pope's tone has sharpened.
00:46:17.400This past week, he issued a rare condemnation of President Trump's threat to destroy Iranian civilization.
00:46:24.820The pope called it, quote, truly unacceptable.
00:46:28.480He also took the unusual step of issuing a call to action.
00:46:33.120Contact the authorities, political leaders, congressmen, to ask them, tell them to work for peace and to reject war always.
00:46:43.780The Holy Father usually avoids calling out President Trump by name or any member of his administration.
00:46:50.300But in a Palm Sunday homily, he appeared to reference the religious language Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who is Christian but not Catholic, often uses to frame the war.
00:47:03.540Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle.
00:47:08.740Pope Leo warned that Jesus, quote, does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war.
00:47:15.560frank walker when i was a kid i was told the most solemn form of instruction from the
00:47:25.780pontifical office was called a papal bull these days i think paper bull is whatever a pope
00:47:31.420inverted commas will say in front of the tele cameras and the old globalist
00:47:36.420um slop tell us now because there's a this is a theme that has run right through today's show
00:47:43.820And it's setting up, in certain ways, ironic as they are, we are in a spiritual battle, but not in the way that people would necessarily expect it to be.
00:47:54.300My impression of this 60 Minutes coronation, crowning, is that it's fake Pope Leo who's being crowned by the mainstream media as the leader, as I was saying earlier, of the globalist pro-invasion resistance against POTUS.
00:48:15.420And I think that's the setting up of this 60 Minutes program to do that, having the three cardinals, McElroy, Tobin, and who was the third one?
00:48:30.100Cupich, three most senior U.S. cardinals to push so hard the invasion agenda.
00:48:37.840I'm glad we have the opportunity just to say this
00:48:42.020And that's exactly what the 60 Minutes program was doing
00:49:33.680In fact, I think that what he's doing is making sure they always attack
00:49:36.940the Trump administration, any military, no matter whatsoever.
00:49:40.460So that's why they've chosen that pacifism.
00:49:43.600That reference to the contentious Pentagon meeting that they have in there,
00:49:47.700that's a lie that's not corroborated, that was shot down by the Vatican itself,
00:49:53.960that was invented by Chris Hale, who's an operative from the Obama administration.
00:49:58.320Another connection to the Obama administration.
00:50:00.340So this meeting of the three cardinals, these are the three worst possible cardinals and also the most powerful ones in the American church.
00:50:08.680Soup, it's the one from Chicago because the Chicago machine is Leo's thing.
00:50:14.460And, you know, I mean, Cardinal McCarrick, one of the most the greatest perverts of all time, he hand selected these three cardinals and they each touch on different things.
00:50:25.440McElroy says that the war is unjust, but every time somebody confronts them, like you were talking
00:50:29.900about, Jenny, confront someone, how is the war unjust? They change the subject. They don't really
00:50:34.960have any actual reason. They have to misquote the Bible. He says, well, it might be war after war
00:50:41.120after war. He chose the war himself. And Cardinal Cupich just talks about the advertising from the
00:50:47.360military. He says, it's disgusting to use war for entertainment. And then Cardinal Tobin at the end,
00:50:53.700making his money. He's all about the illegals, more about the illegals. You know, they're making
00:50:59.420them have to lie about their identity. And when they, when they, you know, I mean, why do they
00:51:04.100have to lie about their identity? So the fact that they're even bringing this illegals up,0.95
00:51:07.540which is not the topic that the church is on at the moment, shows you how much they're angry about
00:51:13.460the money, that money situation that they're losing on illegals. That's why they had to come
00:51:17.560up at that 60 Minutes piece there, but it's just, you know, and they talk about what we've talked
00:51:24.300about here a lot, the big growth in Catholics, new Catholics, adult Catholics, and they admit,
00:51:30.680they have no idea why. They don't know why. They think it's like a crisis of authority. Well, I
00:51:35.880wonder how that happened. They just want you to follow Leo, and they said they're doing a study
00:51:40.360to try to figure out why in the world are there more Catholics, and really, it's really not that
00:51:44.780many more than than since the virus it's not setting a huge record it's not that many more0.95
00:51:49.980just give me a quick just give me a quick answer in five seconds if um if potus is to succeed
00:51:56.440in denaturalizing and deporting 30 million invaders from the united states the catholic
00:52:03.960church including its its earthly representative are going to need to be resisted with every uh
00:52:10.840every fiber of americans beings is that true yes or no yes because they're gonna fight like crazy0.97
00:52:18.640because that's the way they make their money they don't really make it from catholics anymore
00:52:21.840so it's absolutely important that's their religion very quickly frank 10 seconds canon 212 where do
00:52:28.500people go yes canon 212 at twitter it's canon 212 spelled out and it can't do 212 you can see in
00:52:34.600the right column at rumble and a glory tv you can see the daily update video and jenny on social
00:52:40.860media you can find me at uh jenny e holland dot clubstack.com that's all we've got time for folks
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