Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 992： Crossing The Finish Line In Virginia; DOJ Goes After Southern Poverty Law Center

00:00:00.000 I voted no, and I look at the history of voting in Virginia, and it's been fairly balanced,

00:00:18.480 and I like that.

00:00:19.520 I like the competition between the two parties.

00:00:22.080 I voted yes, as many people have said, to level the playing field.

00:00:26.840 um you know it was not started by us and i feel that we had to we had to react to things that

00:00:33.600 were going on in other parts of the country first it was texas then california and today

00:00:38.980 it's virginia's turn to ride the redistricting wave of this election cycle voters there considering

00:00:45.100 a ballot measure that would redraw their congressional map if it passes it could

00:00:50.480 potentially give democrats four more seats in the house virginia is white blue or if you prefer

00:00:56.820 purplish-blue. It's not California, and so you're not going to get a landslide. That's for certain.

00:01:03.300 You're not going to get anything approaching Abigail Spanberger's 15-point victory last

00:01:07.880 November. Most observers here think that the referendum will probably pass. I've noticed a

00:01:15.400 lot of hesitation, not so much because of polling, public or private, but because people in talking

00:01:21.640 with their friends hear surprising things. From Democrats, for example, they are concerned about

00:01:28.900 the idea of having this kind of redistricting at mid-decade and what it could lead to,

00:01:34.660 understanding that Texas did it because Trump approached them to do it, and so did Missouri,

00:01:39.520 and so did North Carolina, and maybe, maybe Florida will do the same thing. So you have to

00:01:45.360 fight fire with fire. You can't unilaterally disarm. So I would say, you know, probably the

00:01:52.900 odds are, given the Virginia electorate, that it will pass. But I don't think it's going to be

00:01:58.440 anything close to a landslide. It will expire in 2030 and go back to the nonpartisan panel?

00:02:04.960 That is absolutely correct. Of course, remember, you're still going to have the congressional

00:02:08.880 districts that were set up now. They've already been passed. If, in fact, the referendum goes

00:02:15.280 through. We know what the districts look like. So you're going to have incumbents in those

00:02:19.420 districts, and nine or ten of them certainly will be Democrats, and incumbents tend to have an edge

00:02:25.920 in getting reelected. So yes, you will have a return to the nonpartisan redistricting, but I

00:02:33.300 wonder if those, quote, nonpartisan redistrictors or the state Supreme Court, if the legislature

00:02:39.320 can't agree. It goes to the state Supreme Court. I wonder if they're going to oust that many

00:02:45.960 incumbents. And of course, the incumbents can move to new districts that are established with

00:02:51.900 an advantage being the incumbent. My guess is, and I'm guessing, Katie, I just don't think in

00:02:58.440 the end, in November, it's going to be that close. The House usually isn't. I know it is now,

00:03:04.960 you know, three seats or now I guess it's four, you know, with the resignation of the Florida

00:03:11.080 Congresswoman just an hour or two ago. But it's going to be probably the norm is, you know, 10

00:03:20.120 or 15, a margin of 10 or 15 for the party controlling could be higher than that. So do

00:03:26.540 four seats make a difference? Of course, they give you some buffer in case things don't go your way

00:03:31.980 in other districts. But odds are you're going to have the party that wins, and right now,

00:03:38.360 clearly leaning Democratic. The newest poll has Democrats ahead in the generic ballot by seven

00:03:44.820 points, which is definitely enough to win the House. So, you know, does it matter? Sure, it

00:03:50.900 matters. You never know how these things are going to turn out until people vote. But as I say,

00:03:56.360 the probability is that the party that controls the House will win by more than three or four

00:04:01.780 seeds. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going

00:04:12.980 medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people

00:04:20.120 have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything

00:04:24.040 in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do

00:04:27.420 people like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these

00:04:35.140 people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer

00:04:42.100 is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. 0.62

00:04:50.600 it's tuesday 21 april in the year of our lord 2026 we're going to go to the commonwealth

00:05:02.060 the lois stallman joins us jeff ryer is going to be on the chairman of the

00:05:05.540 gop is going to be on in a moment delois you're actually at a polling station what is uh what

00:05:11.360 what's the feel that you've had today i know you've been talking a lot of people going around

00:05:14.900 your district? What's the sense of things? Honestly, Steve, it's like, it's unbelievably

00:05:20.800 high turnout. We had, uh, last, last November we had at this particular precinct, 1,171 votes,

00:05:30.200 and we have currently 928. So it's just an unbelievably high turnout. Um, I'm in York

00:05:37.300 County, historic York County. And I would say that this county is probably likely to go red

00:05:45.100 again on this referendum. But the feel of the people coming up, a lot of thumbs ups,

00:05:51.220 a lot of people reacting to the map. Of course, we're showing the map, which the Democrats aren't.

00:05:57.640 And some people are pretty surprised by the map that they see because it's, as you've said,

00:06:02.340 being marketed as fair and temporary and to restore fairness. And once people lay

00:06:07.760 eyes on that map, they realize that this is a total boondoggle. So I'm feeling very good,

00:06:13.760 at least where I'm at. Well, you're saying that there's 928 voted and we got about an hour or

00:06:20.060 less than an hour to go because the 1100 was in the gubernatorial race, correct?

00:06:24.860 That's exactly right. So that statewide was about a 54 percent turnout. So this is an April referendum. Absolutely. Well beyond what any of our expectations were. I think we had originally sort of targeted for 30 percent.

00:06:40.980 now here's what's absolutely stunning is that this whole thing was gun deck from the democrats

00:06:47.980 first off it's it's worded in a very complicated way they never show the map because the map is

00:06:53.600 offensive they basically take the washington dc suburb uh with all the deep staters and basically

00:07:00.640 make that they infect the entire state with with the lobster and destroy the rural counties

00:07:06.420 and so they never want to talk about

00:07:08.720 and they set it up in April, which I don't think

00:07:10.620 Virginia has ever voted in April.

00:07:12.400 It's a June primary and then November election.

00:07:15.080 This has been so gundacked by the Democrats.

00:07:17.900 Have you noticed, because one of the keys here tonight

00:07:20.500 could be the silent no vote from the Democrats.

00:07:24.780 Do you get any sense of people coming in your area

00:07:29.180 that there are some Democrats that are sitting there going,

00:07:31.740 I can't do this because we've got a bipartisan commission

00:07:34.160 and we just let them have, I mean,

00:07:35.620 they get beyond the Trump derangement syndrome, what this is all about?

00:07:40.340 I definitely do. I've definitely had some of those today who said, this just is not what I'm about

00:07:45.960 as a voter. And maybe they'll split from party lines. I think I told you the other day, I had

00:07:51.940 a Republican woman who had mistakenly voted yes, because she was legitimately confused by the

00:07:58.180 language. So one of the reasons that we're fully staffing these polls is to make sure that those

00:08:03.420 confused voters are set straight before they head into the ballot box today to mitigate any

00:08:08.340 confusion from the very shady worded referendum language. Deloes, can you hang on one second? I

00:08:16.460 want to go to Jeff Reier, the chairman of the GOP. Jeff, you've been handling everything all day.

00:08:25.400 I'm sure your phone's been blowing up. Give us your assessment with about 50 minutes, 45 minutes

00:08:32.040 to go. We feel good. We can't be sanguine about it. We've still got the phone calls going. We

00:08:37.740 just sent out another round of text messages in order to get people out to vote. We're getting

00:08:42.040 very good reports back from our polling places. DeLois' experience is pretty familiar to us,

00:08:47.880 an unusually high turnout for an election held on a date when Virginia's never had an election,

00:08:55.420 and also just high turnout in the right places, at least so far, as far as places that we think

00:09:01.740 would lean Republican. We do have to keep in mind that, you know, this ballot doesn't have an R or

00:09:06.540 a D on it. It simply says yes or no. And so it's very important for us to have people at the polling

00:09:13.260 places. And as Lois mentioned, we're the only ones showing people what the maps are. We're the only

00:09:18.300 ones showing them what they do. And it is having a reaction, especially in our rural communities,

00:09:24.920 where turnout seems to be eclipsing what occurred in the gubernatorial race last year.

00:09:31.740 Jeff, how did you get the word out? Because you guys virtually had no money. You had $80 million spent. You know, I was in Texas when I got back here, given that the war room's in Washington, we get, you know, all the channels for Northern Virginia. And I've never seen, I mean, it is unbelievable, nonstop, these Democratic ads. How did you guys get the word out to have even be competitive here?

00:09:58.540 We turned it over to our volunteers and our apparatus at the grassroots level.

00:10:04.500 We gave them names and phone numbers and addresses of people to knock, to call, to talk to.

00:10:13.020 We asked them to engage their own friends as well so that we would be able to do personalized texts

00:10:19.800 as well as the standard blast texts, which you see so many of those

00:10:24.120 because they are a more affordable way to campaign.

00:10:26.860 campaign, and that's how we got it going. And what happened was that our grassroots responded.

00:10:33.760 We told them from the outset that the cavalry may not be coming for us, and we asked them

00:10:39.460 to go ahead and be the cavalry, and they did.

00:10:43.900 One of the things I like to point out to people is it doesn't matter where you go in Virginia,

00:10:48.480 you will see a sign, a no sign, that you haven't seen before. And you will see other signs

00:10:53.220 of really organic activity behind the no campaign.

00:10:56.900 That's being driven by our volunteers.

00:10:59.020 And also, especially over the course of the last month or so,

00:11:03.660 by the War Room Posse, which has been extraordinarily helpful to us

00:11:06.760 making phone calls.

00:11:08.840 DeLois got a lot of that going, and we've had very good luck with that.

00:11:12.720 That's been great.

00:11:15.380 As you take an assessment, as you look around,

00:11:18.440 how has the voting been in your assessment

00:11:22.340 When you see the results, at least of what the raw vote is and who's participating in those northern Virginia counties, because folks throughout the country should understand that northern Virginia is now just simply a suburb of Washington, D.C., and you've got the corridor out there and what the Dulles corridor that is all defense contractors.

00:11:43.560 You've got Pentagon City. You have a massive defense buildup. Roslyn, Tyson's Corner. I mean,

00:11:50.700 high rises everywhere. They're like, I think Tyson's Corner reminds me of Dallas-Fort Worth,

00:11:55.600 the Metroplex. There's been an explosion up there, and they've kind of dominated the state,

00:12:00.320 but it's really not even Virginia. It's almost like Washington, D.C. The vote totals that you've

00:12:05.200 been seeing in the participation. I know there's a lot of questions early in the morning, particularly

00:12:09.600 on left-wing media like MSNBC. They were quite concerned. Have they made up for that during the

00:12:15.680 day? Are you feeling good about what you're seeing as vote totals on game day in those strongly

00:12:20.680 Democratic areas? We're still feeling very good. They still are lagging by and large behind. And

00:12:30.000 the other thing that we believe we have going for us in those particular areas, although Republicans

00:12:34.780 are a decided minority in those areas. We have some of our best community, local Republican

00:12:41.320 committees and best activists in those areas. They're very accustomed to fining Republican

00:12:46.300 voters, ensuring that they vote. And in this particular election, we think that's especially

00:12:52.240 valuable. So they've done an outstanding job themselves of invigorating the brave Republicans

00:12:59.500 that are living up there and more than a little frustrated because, as you've seen from

00:13:04.760 some of the national headlines concerning crime,

00:13:08.540 Democrat policies have taken over those areas.

00:13:13.800 Jeff, the same question to DeLois.

00:13:16.620 As you see the ads and you see the intensity,

00:13:19.160 you see the people, they had some Democratic activists

00:13:21.960 on CNN and MSNBC throughout the day.

00:13:24.720 They were very blunt.

00:13:26.400 This was about stopping Trump.

00:13:28.420 This is about impeaching Trump.

00:13:29.700 This is about stopping the MAGA movement,

00:13:31.400 talking about, hey, they did it in Texas, they're going to do it in Florida,

00:13:36.100 we have to do it here, no qualms about is this fair,

00:13:39.680 does it cut rural counties out, is it not one man, one vote,

00:13:43.800 does this take away representation?

00:13:47.360 Do you have any inkling of, is there a quiet no vote among Democrats

00:13:53.880 of just people who are like independents but lean Democratic

00:13:56.540 or Democratic voters, some moderates that just say,

00:14:01.040 this is too much we've had a commission we were trying to get gerrymandering out of the commonwealth

00:14:06.960 the democrats really drove the commission they could have done this when they had power but

00:14:11.600 they didn't you think there's any no vote silent no vote among these totals we're seeing on the

00:14:16.800 the Democratic side?

00:14:26.360 Steve?

00:14:27.040 Jeff?

00:14:28.000 Yeah.

00:14:29.680 Jeff, did we lose you?

00:14:32.760 Question was for DeLois.

00:14:35.160 No, no, no, that's for you, Jeff.

00:14:37.120 Oh, that's for me.

00:14:37.860 Is there?

00:14:38.420 Yes, there is definitely a silent Democratic vote.

00:14:40.740 In fact, No Gerrymandering Virginia has been operating their own campaign

00:14:46.600 that's separate from anything that we're doing. It's spearheaded by a former Democratic

00:14:52.700 state senator, Governor Allen, who's obviously a Republican, and a Democrat who

00:15:00.340 put together the referendum that passed in 2020, creating the bipartisan commission.

00:15:07.580 And there are Democrats that are definitely with us, as evidenced by the fact that the Washington

00:15:12.700 post of all editorial boards happens to be on the side of the no campaign and has been throughout.

00:15:21.180 I think that many fair-minded Democrats look at it and say to themselves, do I want to have an

00:15:27.900 election in November that counts or one in June when the decision is already made? And that's

00:15:34.840 really to some extent what this is about because the Democrats have set it up so that all 11

00:15:40.160 districts will ostensibly be decided in, uh, in the June party primaries. Wow. Uh, last before we

00:15:48.080 let you go, uh, Jeff, any guidance, uh, where should people go? You still got over a half hour

00:15:53.240 to vote. Any guidance for watching tonight? What we should be looking for? Uh, there's a variety of

00:16:00.080 places in the, in the Commonwealth. Virginia, uh, takes, takes some time to count, but we do think

00:16:04.940 that this will be pretty quick tonight, primarily because there's only one item on the ballot.

00:16:09.120 it. So the reconciliations at the polling places should not be too difficult. We'll

00:16:16.020 be watching very closely. Bellwether counties like Northampton, which for whatever reason

00:16:22.280 tends to get it right consistently in statewide races, we'll be watching the turnout in Fairfax

00:16:28.980 County and also the turnout primarily in our many rural counties that are about to be disenfranchised

00:16:37.760 if this awful referendum passes.

00:16:41.220 Well, Fairfax County, this was all set up

00:16:43.600 so that the progressives in Fairfax County

00:16:47.860 essentially run the state, correct?

00:16:49.900 I mean, that's why you're looking at turnout tonight there

00:16:52.800 because this is all set up so that Fairfax County

00:16:56.260 infects the entire Commonwealth?

00:16:59.540 Right, and it's not only that,

00:17:00.940 but they've already assigned the districts.

00:17:03.540 They've divvied them up between Fairfax County

00:17:07.540 existing congressmen and the new individuals who they want to be congressmen. It was acknowledged

00:17:14.120 during the course of the Democrats pushing this through, in the case of the map, that they actually

00:17:19.300 had names on the maps as far as who was getting what. So it's very nice that they've decided to

00:17:25.720 tear us up like China once upon a time. Jeff, where do people go on social media to follow you, 1.00

00:17:33.880 particularly this evening, sir?

00:17:36.920 V-A underscore G-O-P, all caps.

00:17:40.540 Capital V, capital A underscore,

00:17:43.120 capital G, capital O, capital P,

00:17:45.080 over on X.

00:17:46.720 And we will be keeping things going.

00:17:50.640 We've been putting stuff up all day long,

00:17:53.460 actually for the last several days

00:17:54.600 because there have been so many rallies,

00:17:56.000 including the fantastic War Room rally

00:17:58.900 that we all had on Sunday.

00:17:59.900 uh so um they'll be uh we will be uh letting people know what we know when we know it

00:18:07.540 jeff thank you so much great work let's run through the tape and uh we'll talk to you later

00:18:13.440 receiving thank you take care thank you delois are you happy did you get the turnout from poll

00:18:20.300 workers that's one of the things you were concerned about today because you realized

00:18:23.820 with these maps and the democrats not showing anything that you were going to have to have

00:18:27.740 people actually explain what's going on did that turn out yeah we're fully staffed absolutely i

00:18:34.520 even had the opportunity to jump over to another county that was a little bit light and i was able

00:18:38.960 to help out that chairman for a couple of hours which was which was great anecdotal evidence for

00:18:44.260 me just to know that in that other deep blue or deep red locality that they were outperforming

00:18:49.560 expectations as well. The people behind me, Bianna Soldo and Nat Webb, we've all been out

00:18:57.760 basically since 530 this morning. So we're pretty excited. And I think that people see the wisdom

00:19:04.920 of the no vote, like you were asking, Jeff. There is a silent no, no, I would say you're

00:19:11.780 classic Democrat, maybe a fair minded Democrat sees this as a really rotten way to move forward

00:19:18.460 with running the state and representing people in a way that's completely disingenuous and the

00:19:25.040 height of insult is the wording of the ballot that says um to restore fairness so it was great

00:19:31.940 that fair maps printed these four by fours of the giant uh current and and um future map if this

00:19:38.740 passes so it's been illustrative the lobster today has been good the lobster how did the same

00:19:45.380 question i asked jeff how did you these uh your county the handover these other counties how did

00:19:51.980 you guys actually get the word out it's april it's not really the political season in the

00:19:56.960 commonwealth it's just not the way people think when spring comes to the commonwealth it's so

00:20:00.820 magnificent so beautiful the last thing you want to think about is a hard-fought political fight

00:20:07.480 that really the country is kind of hanging into balance how did you guys with no money how did

00:20:13.200 you guys get the word out that put these kind of numbers up you're talking about in these red

00:20:17.020 counties? Well, I actually didn't get elected chairman until the middle of February. And my

00:20:23.980 first meeting was March 5th and early voting started the 6th. So as soon as I won, I really

00:20:31.540 started hustling with the GOP data center and getting trained up on all the material that they

00:20:36.720 have there, which is just an abundance of information for people who want to target voters,

00:20:41.520 sort voters by frequency of participation or since we don't have party registration by calculated

00:20:48.040 party. We worked with people who had good cells, good home numbers. We divided it up literally

00:20:55.240 street by street and broke out old school maps and started grouping them in neighborhoods. And

00:21:01.480 I developed teams for each of my precincts underneath the supervisory district where we

00:21:07.480 live. So we kind of went Fallujah style, if you would like to say. We literally did divide it up

00:21:13.880 by street. Fantastic. Last question. Your sense, if you looked throughout the day at the rest of

00:21:23.600 the Commonwealth, and particularly Northern Virginia and Southwest, because I understand

00:21:27.540 they're both vital, what's your sense of where you think we stand right now?

00:21:30.940 um i'll be honest i've really been knee deep in voter contact all day but

00:21:37.100 people are texting me uh people who are in the know feel like we're definitely in the hunt right

00:21:43.200 now and so you know provided you know we're in the our people actually work so i think our

00:21:50.300 turnout's gonna you know it's been consistent since about 5 30 and provided that that keeps up

00:21:56.880 and we don't get washed out in absentees.

00:21:58.960 I think we're very competitive, so I'm optimistic.

00:22:03.160 Any last words on where people can go if they need to figure out how to vote,

00:22:07.560 where to vote, all of that?

00:22:08.760 So we run through the tape.

00:22:09.800 We've got about 35 minutes.

00:22:13.240 Most people should know where their local normal voting precinct is,

00:22:17.120 but they can always look it up on the GOP database or data center,

00:22:21.560 or our website, which Jeff gave, Virginia.GOP.

00:22:25.060 you can find where your polling location is and what's your social media for

00:22:30.480 tonight i know people are going to be following you where do they go

00:22:33.340 oh you can go to my uh twitter which is deloes ray r-a-e or getter deloes

00:22:41.840 thank you ma'am appreciate you great great job and a great way to run through

00:22:48.280 the tape on game day thank thank you and i am wearing the war room

00:22:52.280 merch all day long out here. Our head of merch, Grace Chong, is going to be very happy.

00:22:59.440 Thank you, ma'am. Great branding.

00:23:04.160 I think one of the inspirations, folks, is that this and Texas back-to-back

00:23:10.900 are two of the best examples I've ever seen of the grassroots using their agency.

00:23:17.120 if you think about it back i think we did the dinner in texas on january 9th

00:23:22.720 there really hadn't been much talk about the although people were doing a great job don't

00:23:27.300 get me wrong prepping this but until jenny story and the team came together

00:23:31.000 a patriot mobile to pull together that dinner with gert builders and glenn beck and

00:23:36.600 stenchfield and myself and others then that kind of exploded off the football

00:23:41.640 went all the way through primary date on Prop 10 about prohibiting Sharia law in the state of Texas.

00:23:51.260 Also, Paxton's campaign, no doubt, drafted off that and got just incredible energy.

00:23:59.640 And now he's up, at least by the latest polling, by eight points with virtually no money compared to Cornyn.

00:24:06.060 Cornyn, I think, is close to spending $100 million destroying Ken Paxton.

00:24:09.980 But it has not had an impact as the grassroots are stepping up there, then roll right into the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:24:16.800 And this thing was over. Remember, Spanberg and this team destroyed the Republican establishment in the state, in the Commonwealth by 15 plus points and just an absolute blowout.

00:24:28.980 And actually took, particularly in the House of Delegates, areas that were seem like could never, ever, ever be won by Democrats.

00:24:40.000 And these were progressive Democrats and they were. Chris Spanberger, being a CIA operative, was able to mask her color revolution. 0.79

00:24:48.800 But it's all become she's unmasked now. And actually quite a weird she's kind of a weirdo. 0.98

00:24:54.200 Right. Which I think has been very evident to people in the Commonwealth since then.

00:24:57.580 But this riding to the sound of the guns has been extraordinary.

00:25:01.500 Back to back, if you add these patriots down in Georgia that are fighting for election integrity,

00:25:07.960 you add on that this fight down in South Carolina where Lindsey Graham is currently under 50 percent.

00:25:13.760 As I keep saying, if you get the issue set right, and when I say issue set right,

00:25:19.000 I mean the issues that drive MAGA and the grassroots base, you can win.

00:25:25.080 uh and this one is with no money there was no paid ballot chasing there was no paid door knocking

00:25:34.140 there was no paid working on the in the uh in the you know in the um shopping centers uh or the

00:25:41.460 parking lots on weekends none of that this was 100 grassroots that came out and particularly

00:25:46.960 the rural counties which i think was extraordinary and they're right some of these even blue leaning

00:25:51.160 have these tremendous Republican activists

00:25:53.980 that really know how to get out to vote

00:25:55.280 in those districts where they're overwhelmed.

00:25:57.940 But I think it was the chairman of Hanover

00:26:01.360 that had just this amazing analysis

00:26:04.020 of how this was in the cradle of the American Revolution

00:26:06.720 on the 250th year in our commemoration year,

00:26:11.780 our year that we're celebrating this.

00:26:13.900 And the cradle of that revolution will be stolen

00:26:16.120 by essentially the deep state, 1.00

00:26:18.100 driven by foreign-born folks because that is what Northern Virginia has become with all the

00:26:25.880 government bureaucracy and all the bureaucrats. It's really overwhelmed to come along. And this

00:26:31.740 is the Democratic Party's playbook, and you see it just up in your face, and that's what's been

00:26:36.080 so absolutely incredible about these grassroots volunteers saying, it's not going to happen on

00:26:41.040 my watch, and really for the last 45 days, or I guess now we're at 47 days, have just put their

00:26:45.980 shoulder to the wheel. It's been extraordinary. We're going to take a short commercial break.

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00:31:31.000 The polls are going to close in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:31:33.080 I'll be up on Getter with Grace Chung

00:31:36.260 and putting up comments, observations.

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00:31:43.180 of course Studio 6B will be live

00:31:45.240 Real America's Voice will be covering this

00:31:47.540 just moments ago

00:31:49.500 and Tyler O'Neill from Daily Signal

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00:31:52.640 he's the reporter covering this for the Daily Signal

00:31:54.680 we're going to have Tyler on

00:31:55.680 Tyler O'Neill who's writing this up

00:31:58.540 even as we speak

00:31:59.360 they just had a press conference over DOJ

00:32:02.380 with the cash pretend I think

00:32:04.240 and I think Todd jumped in there

00:32:07.120 I want to play as much of this as we can

00:32:09.400 I'm gonna come in for some editorial comment. This is on those demons at Southern Poverty Law Center. Finally, we're going on offense. Let's go and play it.

00:32:20.220 Today, a few minutes ago, in the Middle District of Alabama, a grand jury returned an 11-count indictment charging the Southern Poverty Law Center with six counts of wire fraud,

00:32:32.740 four counts of bank fraud, and one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering.

00:32:39.400 According to the charges in the indictment, the SPLC is a non-profit entity that purports to fight white supremacy and racial hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting research to inform law enforcement groups with the goal of dismantling these groups.

00:32:57.300 As the indictment describes, the SPLC was not dismantling these groups.

00:33:03.500 It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred.

00:33:12.920 The indictment describes this conduct in detail, but one troubling example is that the SPLC was paying a member of the leadership group

00:33:22.720 that planned the Unite the Right protest in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017

00:33:28.880 that resulted in the death of one person and injured dozens more.

00:33:34.740 This particular person being paid by the SPLC allegedly received approximately $270,000

00:33:42.440 over the course of eight years.

00:33:44.220 in total according to the indictment between 2014 and 2023 SPLC paid at least three million dollars

00:33:54.380 to eight individuals at least these individuals were affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan United

00:34:02.500 Clans of America National Socialist Movement Aryan Nations Affiliated Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club

00:34:10.380 the Nationalist Socialist Party of America, Nazis, and the American Front.

00:34:17.520 Now, as the indictment lays out, after SPLC paid members of these extremist groups,

00:34:24.240 it created work product that reported on these activities that the members participated in or contributed to.

00:34:31.260 And to that end, it was doing the exact opposite of what it's told its donors it was doing,

00:34:36.880 not dismantling extremism but funding it to carry out this scheme spLC created bank accounts

00:34:44.900 in the name of at least five completely fictitious organizations that had no bona fide employees

00:34:51.180 or legitimate business purpose the money was passed from spLC to one sham account to a second

00:34:59.040 sham account and then loaded onto prepaid cards to give to the members of the extremist groups

00:35:04.180 This was designed to shield the source of those funds, and because of this, SPLC is also charged with one count, as I said earlier, of conspiracy to commit money laundering.

00:35:15.460 in conclusion i want to thank the acting u.s attorney in the middle district of alabama kevin

00:35:22.820 davidson who's in his district right now and not able to be with us for bringing this important

00:35:28.260 case along with the fbi team in alabama for their hard work during this investigation

00:35:35.020 this investigation is ongoing and i'd like to ask director patel to say a few words as well

00:35:42.060 thank you general blanche what we're here today is to announce what the what the general just

00:35:53.440 told you the southern poverty law center in a massive sweeping indictment has been charged

00:35:59.380 with allegations of fraud and using the banking system to perpetrate that fraud i just want to

00:36:04.920 talk about a couple brief things here the southern poverty law center themselves advertised

00:36:10.680 to raise money to dismantle violent extremist groups for a period of at least a decade.

00:36:17.000 They used their donor network to raise money to purportedly dismantle violent extremist groups.

00:36:23.360 However, the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, used the money they raised from their

00:36:28.980 donor network to actually pay the leadership of these very groups. I just want to say that again.

00:36:35.320 They used the fraudulently raised money by lying to their donor network, thousands of Americans, to go ahead and actually pay the leadership of these supposed violent extremist groups.

00:36:47.960 The groups, as the general laid out, include the Ku Klux Klan, the United Clans of America, Unite to Right, National Alliance, the National Socialist Movement, the Aryan Nation Motorcycle Club,

00:37:01.880 and the National Socialist Party of America, and also the American Front.

00:37:06.640 In at least one of these matters, our investigation revealed that funds were used to facilitate the

00:37:13.000 commission of further state and federal offenses, totaling over $3 million.

00:37:19.880 Furthermore, our investigation revealed that the Southern Poverty Law Center, on top of

00:37:24.800 perpetuating this widespread, decade-long, multi-million dollar fraud, conducted more

00:37:31.660 criminal activity. They attempted to hide their criminal activity from our financial banking

00:37:38.800 network. They set up shell companies and entities around America so that the financial institutions

00:37:44.840 that we rely on as everyday Americans were deceived in believing that money was not coming

00:37:49.720 from the Southern Poverty Law Center in the perpetration of this scheme and fraud, but

00:37:53.780 rather fictitious entities they stood up to perpetuate this ongoing fraud. This is a serious

00:38:00.640 and egregious violation of a group that purported to dismantle violent extremist groups, but in turn

00:38:06.760 actually only fueled the hatred. This is an important case brought by President Trump's

00:38:12.480 administration. We're thankful for the president for his leadership and funding of not just the FBI

00:38:16.960 and DOJ, but his commitment to go out there and wipe out fraud and conspiracy and waste and abuse

00:38:22.500 wherever it occurs, including the Southern Poverty Law Center. Even though this money was

00:38:27.940 made to appear to be coming from legitimate people and legitimate entities, we at the FBI,

00:38:34.540 with our great partners at the Department of Justice and in the state of Alabama, were able

00:38:38.580 to comb through a decade worth of material, a scheme that took a decade to build, so that we

00:38:44.040 were able to follow the money, because money never lies, and they got caught. As the Attorney

00:38:49.580 General said, these charges are varying. They are widespread and wide-ranging, and this

00:38:55.700 investigation is very much ongoing. Today, we're here to announce the charges of the Southern

00:39:00.100 Poverty Law Center, and this investigation and the individuals who are responsible will be

00:39:04.760 brought to justice. Thank you, General. Thank you, Director Patel. Any questions?

00:39:12.540 I'd like to know why individual people are not mentioned in this indictment. Is that something

00:39:18.020 that's going to come down the pike? Is this just an indictment of the entity? Can you kind of

00:39:21.760 explain, could people face charges here or is this the indictment and you're done? So yes, I mean,

00:39:28.140 as we said, the indictment, this investigation is very much ongoing. And today the grand jury

00:39:33.060 returned indictment against only one entity, the Southern Poverty Law Center. And we'll go from

00:39:40.000 there. But as you'll see from the indictment itself, it should be obvious from the indictment

00:39:46.360 that the investigation is is ongoing. I just want to make sure I understand you're alleging that

00:39:51.180 the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders of KKK and other groups to continue

00:39:58.840 their operations. Is that I'm not alleging it the grand jury returned an indictment that says that

00:40:04.800 and so what what the what the investigation found according to to the indictment that was returned

00:40:10.100 today is that they were paying so so the Southern Poverty Law Center is raising money asking folks

00:40:15.780 to give them money to dismantle racism, and over a very long period of time, they were using some

00:40:21.840 of the money they raised from donors to pay to, they called them field, you know, basically to

00:40:27.660 informants, to, for information, for access, to just pay them for certain, to do certain things,

00:40:37.040 and so yes, that's exactly what the indictment charge is. I was wondering if this is going to

00:40:42.540 expand perhaps to more groups perhaps there's been a lot of accusations about

00:40:46.620 particular groups like the Patriot Front that get a lot of you know traction and

00:40:50.880 more so is the government or is this indictment I should say making the case

00:40:55.080 that some of these matters where they've tried at great lengths to sort of make

00:40:59.820 connections to people on the right per percent I mean Charlottesville was very

00:41:05.940 much associated by you know the media with being sort of like you know part of

00:41:11.580 a right wing kind of thing you know they're like good people on both sides type of thing i mean is

00:41:15.240 this are we seeing a uh sort of the southern poverty law center was trying to create narratives

00:41:20.800 uh using these types of groups to uh you know shape american public opinion look i think what

00:41:26.120 what the southern poverty law center has has said over the years is available to the for the world

00:41:31.880 to see it's on their website it's in other forms um the indictment speaks for itself i'm not going

00:41:36.540 to talk outside the four corners of the indictment it lays out what the what the grand jury found

00:41:41.460 And obviously, there's a whole body of public information around what the Southern Poverty Law Center has done over the past, you know, several decades.

00:41:51.720 I mean, in some of these instances, these are groups that have been either their membership has been dismantled or they've definitely fallen out of public view.

00:41:59.840 I'm just wondering the legal theory of how, you know, these payments allegedly went on to actually benefit the groups.

00:42:05.580 Did you see the money go to the groups themselves rather than just the individuals who were paid informants, essentially?

00:42:12.080 And then I have an off-topic effort.

00:42:13.420 So the – look, I want to be careful to keep any comments that we make inside the indictment.

00:42:21.920 And so what the indictment lays out is payments to individuals who had leadership positions within these organizations.

00:42:30.860 That's what the grand jury found.

00:42:32.220 And so to the extent that those individuals receiving, one received over a million dollars, okay, to the extent over several years, to the extent that there's any link between that individual receiving the money and benefits to that organization, that's not in the indictment.

00:42:49.220 indictment. Because again, it's not that individual who's charged with a crime. It's that individual

00:42:55.020 was an informant or what have you. And it's Southern Poverty Law Center that made those

00:43:01.120 payments to the individual. But it wasn't, you know, look, the payments were not made to these

00:43:06.920 individuals in exchange for a service separate and apart from their work within these organizations.

00:43:13.760 So, you know, that's, I think, speaks for itself.

00:43:16.740 And just on an off topic, obviously you've read the Atlantic article that's now a subject of a defamation lawsuit brought by FBI.

00:43:22.360 I absolutely did not read that article, but go ahead with your question.

00:43:25.420 I just, you know, without, obviously it's in litigation now.

00:43:28.840 Have you separately just heard any concerns, given your supervision over the FBI director, about any problems with drinking?

00:43:37.440 I have a lot of, I have a lot of concerns.

00:43:39.660 And my concerns are completely around the anonymous reporting that comes forth constantly that, you know, reporters have an obligation to report and they have due diligence that they're supposed to do.

00:43:52.920 And when an entire article is based on anonymous sources and there's things in the article suggesting, for example, for example, apparently, that senior DOJ personnel were informed of something, that's me.

00:44:05.020 I wasn't informed.

00:44:06.140 No one called me about that.

00:44:07.640 So, like, listen, I did not read that article.

00:44:10.120 It is a suburb of litigation, but, you know, I've already spent too much time talking about it.

00:44:15.320 Next question.

00:44:15.920 Go ahead.

00:44:16.400 I'm sorry.

00:44:17.200 The FBI director is on camera with the U.S. Olympic hockey team chugging a beer.

00:44:22.400 I mean, do you think that that's appropriate conduct for the FBI director?

00:44:25.080 That has nothing to do with the article.

00:44:26.760 I mean, look, there's complete hit pieces, and you guys are in this business, and you know what they look like.

00:44:36.260 And the fact that you're asking repeated questions about them almost is an omission of such.

00:44:41.620 But when you have a bunch of people who are hiding behind closed curtains, saying things but not willing to say it publicly,

00:44:47.580 and there are certain parts of the article that are blatantly false because apparently I was told something that I wasn't, it's suspicious in the back.

00:44:56.940 Thank you, Mr. Acting Attorney General.

00:44:58.760 Can you explain, again, what the fraud is here exactly?

00:45:02.460 Are you saying it's illegal for the SPLC to pay money to people that are in hate groups or something about the way this was done makes it illegal?

00:45:11.700 Because it's not automatically illegal, is it?

00:45:14.720 No, that's right.

00:45:15.280 This is a good question.

00:45:16.160 So, again, I summarized the indictment, and it's now public for everybody to read.

00:45:20.700 But the Southern Poverty Law Center is a 501c3.

00:45:23.720 Okay, they're required to, under the laws associated with a nonprofit, to have certain transparency and honesty in what they're telling donors they're going to spend money on and what their mission statement is and what they're raising money doing.

00:45:35.960 And so, as the indictment points out, there's different ways that they raise money.

00:45:41.720 And in no fundraising efforts that the investigation found did they say, oh, and by the way, we're going to give a million bucks to the Ku Klux Klan. 0.51

00:45:51.380 So that's fraud.

00:45:52.760 So that's wire fraud.

00:45:53.720 And then the bank fraud part of it is you have KYC, you have an obligation to tell your financial institution what the corporation or the entity that you're opening an account for does.

00:46:05.800 And the allegations in the indictment are that these were fictitious companies that were set up.

00:46:10.860 And so there was certain information sworn to by SPLC executives about what the entities were doing that we allege is false.

00:46:18.420 Can I just follow up on you? Can I have one follow up, Mr. Fierke?

00:46:21.640 Go ahead.

00:46:21.900 On the hiring of Joe DiGenova to work for the department, can you just tell us a little bit, I understand you went down to Florida, perhaps to take part in his swearing in or bring him on board.

00:46:33.820 Can you explain why he's being brought back to the department after 40 years?

00:46:38.580 So, I mean, look, I think that we, everybody in this administration, whether it's department justice or elsewhere, we're always looking for good people.

00:46:46.740 And he's somebody who has a deep bench, as you said, he's been in this business for decades.

00:46:51.060 and and when we had the opportunity to ask him to join the team and help we

00:46:57.000 readily did I have an on topic and an off topic if you'll allow me um are you

00:47:01.440 able to explain a little bit more about what led to this investigation were you

00:47:04.560 guys tipped off by a former employee or how did how did you guys discover this

00:47:09.360 no I can't talk about that but it's been going on for a long time there was a

00:47:14.400 time that it was it was shut down for a while during the the last administration

00:47:20.940 I don't know why. And it was started again over the past year or so, and that brings us to today.

00:47:29.380 You mean the investigation began before this administration and then was shut down during the Biden administration?

00:47:34.980 That's my understanding. I don't have information beyond what I just said around that.

00:47:39.640 I wanted to ask about the Brennan, the John Brennan investigation.

00:47:43.180 If you can explain why the career prosecutor who had been leading that investigation was removed,

00:47:48.360 and if you have you have or had concerns that that investigation is not moving quickly enough

00:47:53.000 i don't have any concerns about that investigation and again the um reporting around that really is

00:47:59.480 just a source purely from leaks and not actually accurate reporting is not something i'm going to

00:48:04.520 comment on and never will comment on can i ask you just to clarify one thing obviously the bureau

00:48:10.200 had a long relationship with the sblc is is it your understanding that the previous leaders at

00:48:16.840 that the Bureau knew this was happening and didn't view it as a crime or is that the Bureau did not

00:48:22.180 know this was happening? It is it is my understanding that SPLC never told anybody in

00:48:28.620 law enforcement that they were paying off the Ku Klux Klan and I don't think that should surprise 0.70

00:48:32.020 anybody. Thank you Mr. Acting Attorney General. I'd like you to both weigh in on a recent memo

00:48:39.160 from the Office of Legal Counsel declaring the Presidential Records Act unconstitutional. So

00:48:44.260 saying that presidents no longer need to preserve their documents or turn them to the government.

00:48:49.060 What do you say to critics who suggest this basically eliminates transparency and accountability

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00:49:00.940 Well, look, I think there is no dispute that this administration in just 14 months

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00:49:16.360 As far as the recent OLC opinion regarding the PRA, that is something that has been heavily litigated in D.C. and elsewhere.

00:49:25.100 And OLC issuing that is not the first place that you see that, that it's unconstitutional.

00:49:31.500 I mean, I think there's a lot of places that you can go to think through why that is.

00:49:35.760 The memo speaks for itself. And and and and I don't have much to say about it beyond that.

00:49:42.020 Yeah. Do you want to weigh in on that? The president has this pending billion dollar lawsuit against the IRS.

00:49:49.040 He sort of said that this is like he's negotiating with himself. How can you assure can you do anything you do to assure people that by the way.

00:49:56.960 The demonic Southern Poverty Law Center. And hey, this ongoing investigation, they're going to get in there and find so much more.

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Bannon's War Room - April 21, 2026

WarRoom Battleground EP 992： Crossing The Finish Line In Virginia; DOJ Goes After Southern Poverty Law Center

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