Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 993： The Strong Undercurrent Of Christianophobia In Some Elements Of Israeli Culture

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00:00:44.640 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:00:48.060 wednesday 22nd of april anno domini 2026

00:01:00.480 harnwell here at the helm on steve bannon's war room quickly got a lot to go through today let's

00:01:06.480 get up our guests as ever frank walker and jenny holland frank i don't know about you but you know

00:01:11.560 i've been doing the war now for about five years um and i'm a bit delusioned and disappointed with

00:01:17.800 you right because here you know every day you know at the coalface pushing pushing arguments

00:01:23.940 out hoping against hope for a bit of traction in the secular media and it's just basically

00:01:29.560 nothing just the world passes me by just in in anonymity and then so you can imagine how green

00:01:38.640 with envy if not outright disgust i was earlier this week when the war rooms jenny holland

00:01:44.040 was retweeted by probably one of the no probably arguably one of the most successful

00:01:51.020 authors write writing in english right now um jk rowling of harry potter fame jenny um i could

00:02:01.240 not be more proud of you uh this is obviously the opportunity we don't we will do it at the

00:02:06.320 end of the show but it's a quick moment to do it now just to push out um your superb

00:02:12.440 sub stack article um sub stack profile saving culture from itself um which of course i think

00:02:19.480 you can also um keep abreast with on x as well just very very quickly uh tell us about this

00:02:27.040 because jk rowling has more followers on twitter than i have on getter um which obviously which

00:02:35.540 is obviously really sort of humiliating for me um she's picked up your article she points out the

00:02:41.300 the great points you're making just give us their background give the posse the background of this

00:02:47.000 catapulting you into the first tier now of no it really is catapulting you this is what we try to

00:02:54.020 do on the warms certainly what we try to do on on the wednesday show as well we're trying to take

00:02:59.480 mainstream arguments out of the ghetto and put them out into the the wider audience um and to

00:03:07.020 see you and it wasn't like i mean if and when i'm ever referred to by someone else it's always 0.99

00:03:13.200 obviously a condescending attack look at look at what this idiot fanatical um crazy guy harnwell 0.84

00:03:19.400 has said this wasn't your case she was quoting you quite approvingly um and giving a full endorsement 0.99

00:03:26.320 on the argument you were making so what was it all about yes so jk rowling is a famous uh or

00:03:33.200 infamous TERF here in the United Kingdom, who really has done more to advance the cause

00:03:40.580 of sex realism, as we actually have to call it nowadays, because that's how crazy things

00:03:46.100 are, and to fight back against things like gender self-identification and all sorts of

00:03:52.800 causes. 1.00

00:03:53.260 She also puts her money where her mouth is.

00:03:56.120 As everyone knows, she's made two fortunes, ten fortunes, off of the Harry Potter series,

00:04:02.540 and she is probably the most famous author perhaps ever to exist, really.

00:04:08.340 I mean, we're getting to Shakespeare level in terms of name recognition.

00:04:13.940 And she has donated significant amounts of that fortune 0.56

00:04:18.920 to defending no-name everyday women here in the UK

00:04:25.160 who have been harassed out of jobs by crazy gender ideologues

00:04:30.640 who, for example, will not abide anyone criticizing putting men in women's domestic violence shelters or women's changing rooms.

00:04:44.000 And so I think this came on her radar because I wrote of a woman here in Belfast who lost her job in the arts sector

00:04:53.160 because she spoke at a pro-sex realist women's rally.

00:04:59.520 And she called out women's domestic violence shelters for letting men in. 0.99

00:05:05.120 And she was then hounded out of her job by zealots, woke zealots in the arts.

00:05:12.980 She then went on to an arts event that happened in March that I tagged along to.

00:05:18.720 And it was about, I kid you not, it was a bunch of arts professionals,

00:05:23.480 basically lackeys of the state, apparatchiks, complaining about censorship against them,

00:05:29.200 even though these are the very same people who censor non-woke artists and basically conflating

00:05:36.300 funding cuts with censorship as if they were entitled to hardworking taxpayer money to create 0.88

00:05:44.160 trash woke art. So I wrote this rather scathing takedown of these arts professionals here in

00:05:51.300 Northern Ireland, but it's the same absolutely applicable to the rest of the United Kingdom.

00:05:55.380 And in certain circles, it's applicable to the United States in that, I mean, I think a lot of art, at least film in the United States, is still privately funded the old-fashioned way.

00:06:05.260 All of that NGO space that Elon Musk and Trump took a machete to last year was in the exact same kind of paradigm, which is we will pay ridiculous amounts of money to our little ideological pets to do nothing or maybe to do active harm.

00:06:26.640 And we will complain and moan and flounce around if we don't get that taxpayer money directly into us.

00:06:35.540 I mean, this is like a job scheme for liberal arts grads.

00:06:39.360 It's a dole program, a welfare program for, you know, middle class university graduates whose degrees are otherwise worthless.

00:06:49.440 and I mean really like we've had we had the Irish fuel protest the same weekend I published that was

00:06:55.860 the weekend that or the weekend I wrote it was the weekend those are those fuel protests were

00:06:59.640 ongoing the South of Ireland is exactly the same the government is reaping in billions and billions 0.95

00:07:04.800 of dollars sorry euros and part of the patronage scheme is it goes to utter woke nonsense silly

00:07:14.400 lip charted like sound baths and things that are very very nice but i i don't understand why the

00:07:21.020 taxpayers should pay for them jenny um i think the whole thing to me illustrates what some something

00:07:30.000 i've known for quite some time and i hope the war room posse has appreciated as well and that's

00:07:35.080 just what an insightful commentator you are on culture you're not historically from um what what

00:07:43.600 the press would call a far right background you're progressive no exactly uh well i would

00:07:49.880 consider being called progressive a terrible insult those are fighting words to me now ben

00:07:57.260 i mean but yes i was my father was a bohemian writer and a poet you know i'm not from a far

00:08:04.280 right background but um not at all but you have um you have great insights uh on culture and to

00:08:13.080 see them being recognized at the highest possible level as you say jk rowling is one of probably i

00:08:20.960 think probably the most um accomplished writer um in english they captured the generations the

00:08:27.980 imaginations i think of of one if not two generations of of kids certainly certainly

00:08:32.820 generation x will have been brought up on on harry potter uh and her writing and her uh her stories

00:08:39.720 are part of the emotional and imaginative fabric

00:08:45.300 of an entire generation.

00:08:47.700 And to see her picking up your work there,

00:08:51.920 your contributions, and pushing it out to her 14 million followers.

00:08:56.380 Can I just...

00:08:56.900 Absolutely fantastic.

00:08:58.220 I literally couldn't be more proud of you.

00:09:00.540 Thank you.

00:09:01.180 I was thrilled, obviously, but I really want to drive home

00:09:03.920 the point where it might not be as well-known in the United States.

00:09:06.600 She has been an absolute hero, heroine.

00:09:09.720 for women's safety and safeguarding

00:09:13.760 and women's right to privacy and dignity

00:09:16.560 in intimate spaces as well.

00:09:19.020 Yeah, and let's make the point,

00:09:21.880 she has been cancelled to all intents and purposes 0.60

00:09:24.740 in the UK because of her insistence

00:09:27.900 of something that would have been beyond,

00:09:30.120 wouldn't even be worthy of comment 20 years ago, 1.00

00:09:33.740 but her insistence that only biological women 0.82

00:09:36.960 can be women um is an affront to the trans movement um and as someone i think she's a

00:09:42.720 feminist i think she describes herself as a feminist and she comes at that point of view

00:09:46.760 from a point of view of feminism um and it's largely be cancelled her here in the uk so she

00:09:52.440 has certainly um she's certainly got the battle scars uh and as i say she's very very proud of

00:09:59.060 you for um for having the quality of your your insights and commentary picked up and pushed out

00:10:05.180 at that level um all right we'll be back we'll we'll come at the end of the show jen we'll do

00:10:10.280 we'll return to um your substack saving culture from itself first however on the christian side

00:10:17.480 of the news then as we start the show proper um many of you folks you'll have seen as i have done

00:10:23.960 the um the the brutal and savage attacking and demolition of a statue of our lord uh christ

00:10:32.060 crucified in lebanon by an idf soldier there's been some developments on that story frank

00:10:38.080 walker is just going to explain to us exactly what those developments are first however for the

00:10:44.040 context because on this i'm saying it's not particularly um the reality on the ground

00:10:52.060 isn't something you're going to be familiar with if your sole diet of news would be fox or what

00:10:57.640 have you the the the blindly pro-israel pro-zionist lobby but there is this isn't the point is this

00:11:05.300 and we'll talk about it with frank in just a moment this isn't an isolated incident of some guy

00:11:10.580 some sheep that had wandered off far from the herd here there is a latent undercurrent of

00:11:17.400 anti-christian contempt in the holy land in israel uh by israelis um and i don't think that's

00:11:25.500 been given enough uh of a spotlight we will do that here on the wall now but first before we

00:11:31.300 get to fact let's just have a have a look at this compilation put together by the great team

00:11:35.680 at real america's voice

00:11:55.500 Thank you.

00:12:25.500 okay so the film here this has no audio that that we're playing so the three videos there

00:12:48.340 The first one was a procession of Hasidic Jews spitting at Christian nuns, Catholic nuns, as they passed them. 0.86

00:12:58.860 It might not have been obvious, but that's exactly what they were doing. 0.85

00:13:02.280 The second clip was the Israeli defense minister, Ben Greer,

00:13:07.580 saying, defending the tradition amongst Israelis to spit on the ground if they pass a priest or a monastery or a church,

00:13:16.320 and defending it, saying that shouldn't be criminalized. 0.89

00:13:18.140 It's a tradition, you know, like putting up mistletoe at, is it New Year's Eve, Christmas Eve?

00:13:25.080 That's a tradition, right?

00:13:26.280 Leaving out mince pies for Santa, that's a tradition. 0.92

00:13:30.600 And in Israel, spitting on the floor when you pass a nun, that's a tradition as well.

00:13:37.440 The final clip there was the same guy harassing two monks.

00:13:41.100 They appeared to be monks in full schmutter, full cassocks there.

00:13:45.540 This guy repeatedly spitting on the ground.

00:13:48.140 uh in front of them that folks is what christians day to day will receive on the right now obviously

00:13:56.900 most christians a lot of christians in the holy land um aren't going to be tourists or pilgrims

00:14:02.140 they're probably going to be arabs of arab descent or what have you and there is that dynamic

00:14:06.360 obviously in it but there is a general contempt and disgust of christianity in the holy land

00:14:13.100 and i'm going to make a point about that but first frank why don't you explain what the

00:14:17.220 developments are with the story at hand today? Well, the development is that I guess they've

00:14:24.200 been punished for this. They've been jailed for 30 days, and the people that were with them

00:14:30.100 are called in for questioning and clarification. Israel and Netanyahu have made a point of saying

00:14:39.620 that this is against policy, and this is not something that they normally do. I mean, they're

00:14:44.260 busy in Lebanon pushing the Christians out of their neighborhoods, and I read the other day

00:14:51.080 there was about a million people displaced. I don't know, but, you know, and as they move through,

00:14:55.960 I suppose that they're at liberty to take Christian symbols out of the, you know, these

00:15:05.560 wars that I suppose Israel has been a part of and the United States has been a part of for

00:15:10.600 decades now, they always seem to come out bad for the Christian population, whether it's in Iraq

00:15:16.500 or now in Lebanon or in Iran. It's just, you don't have the Christians left that were there before. 0.94

00:15:24.220 So maybe that's what they do. They go through and they break these things out. But this wasn't 0.96

00:15:28.600 at a church. This was at somebody's house. This was a private chapel. And they videotaped it,

00:15:34.920 and they videotaped them taking a sledgehammer and smashing the head of Christ on the crucifix.

00:15:40.600 And, you know, the thing that concerns me is that Trump and his policy are tied to Israel and their efforts in the Middle East.

00:15:54.080 And this fits very nicely, despite Israel's effort to punish them, very nicely into the whole agenda against Trump and his administration. 0.74

00:16:06.600 And this kind of division between Israel, and rightly so, as you can see here, I mean, the Israeli Jews, they find images of Christ, they find Christ himself to be a blasphemy. 0.85

00:16:22.460 You know, that's something that they've always believed, and we can't, you know, that reality exists. 0.97

00:16:27.680 They don't like Christianity, but they have an animosity against it.

00:16:31.260 And so, you know, that's always going to be there, but they're using these things.

00:16:35.620 I wonder how did this video get out there and all around the world, because there's a lot of there's a lot of press against Trump that are taking making the most of these things, you know, and causing a division.

00:16:50.260 And because Trump is not, you know, Trump has just created a ceasefire sort of over in Lebanon, over Netanyahu's head.

00:16:56.840 They're not they're not aligned in everything that they do.

00:17:00.160 Netanyahu keeps being who he is and breaking ceasefire.

00:17:02.620 So these things that worked their way into big media events around the world, like this thing that was done at a private chapel, they really have a political effect.

00:17:15.020 I wonder why and who's behind it. 0.91

00:17:19.060 Well, first thing I'll say, well, of course, from the point of Judaism, Christianity is a heresy, right? 0.95

00:17:26.540 or we have to acknowledge that 0.95

00:17:28.100 because we claim that Jesus Christ is God

00:17:30.380 and from the point of Judaism 0.98

00:17:32.720 that is a heresy

00:17:33.760 that's a non-negotiable

00:17:35.700 there's no way of papering over that cracks

00:17:38.240 that crack

00:17:39.140 so the story

00:17:42.500 so the guy who

00:17:44.300 wielded the sledgehammer

00:17:46.100 and the guy who filmed it are both

00:17:48.140 now in prison

00:17:50.460 will be in prison for 30 days

00:17:52.780 there were six other IDF soldiers

00:17:54.820 there and they didn't intervene to stop it so they're going to be disciplined as well my my

00:18:00.700 point on the my point on this um was this frank i look i expect authentic christian witness

00:18:12.160 to receive persecution our lord said it but it's right there in the beatitudes um

00:18:17.960 that's not really i mean it's offensive and it's disgusting but it's not what really offends me 0.76

00:18:27.080 in this issue what really offends me is the silence from the huge zionist swathe of evangelicalism on

00:18:35.920 this issue uh that's really what gets me um we very likely um peeled back on our friday show

00:18:44.700 So the difference in opinion, the rivalry, I don't know what to say,

00:18:53.000 within evangelicalism, and obviously I'm not the best person to do this,

00:18:55.980 that's why we have evangelicals on themselves to speak.

00:18:59.640 But the tension in evangelicalism between the Zionist component,

00:19:05.280 which is the vast majority of contemporary evangelicalism,

00:19:08.960 and then the Christian nationalist part.

00:19:11.380 i think that evangelicals in america are receiving a disservice on behalf of the

00:19:25.100 evangelical pastors who are pushing on them this this the the the christian the judeo-christian

00:19:32.940 narrative when that judeo-christian narrative is never spoken about in israel when jews are

00:19:40.280 talking to jews you get it when christians are talking to christians in america you get it when

00:19:46.340 jews are talking to christians in america you don't get anyone talking about the judeo-christian

00:19:51.900 west when jews are talking to jews in israel um and that is because there is an undercurrent of

00:19:57.640 anti-christianity in the holy land um and this the the desecration of this shrine in in lebanon

00:20:05.780 a personal family shrine as you indicated uh is an indication it's um it's simply a manifestation

00:20:13.340 of of what is beneath the surface and i think especially at this moment as a non-american not

00:20:20.060 living in america with no attention no intention to go and live in america i do think but someone

00:20:25.160 who loves america very much that um americans need to be aware of this have a fully formed

00:20:32.320 picture of what the reality on the ground is in order to make decisions on the back of that

00:20:37.420 because i think as i was saying before i think a large part of the evangelical pastorate is

00:20:45.040 deliberately misleading the flock on uh on some underlying realities we could talk about this

00:20:51.200 some more but i know jenny's got some some more things to talk about let's do a quick shout out

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00:22:36.100 gonna have to start this now and then continue it after the commercial break just very briefly

00:22:42.120 there's been a key gallop poll out in the last few days um and has some incredible results some

00:22:49.680 of which confirm a point we we've been noticing and shining attention to shining a light on for

00:22:57.120 the last six months on the woman this is the growing presence of men young men gen z men

00:23:06.580 uh in church communities in leadership roles coming forward uh and and gen z historically

00:23:13.980 with regards to other age cohorts.

00:23:16.560 The key figure I saw in this Gallup report, Jenny,

00:23:20.160 was that it's about 50% now, more than, it's around,

00:23:24.740 it's nearly 50% of young, under-30-year-old U.S. guys

00:23:30.420 say that religion is important to them,

00:23:34.220 50% more than the similar age cohort of under-30 U.S. women.

00:23:41.020 And that is an astonishing divergence,

00:23:43.300 And it's quite recent in its presence here in the statistics.

00:23:50.760 Tell us a little bit more and then continue after the break. 0.97

00:23:54.300 Yeah, I mean, the traditional numbers would say that women are more religious overall, 0.91

00:24:01.040 but those are pre-woke cultural revolution and now we're in a whole different environment.

00:24:08.240 um yeah 42 percent of men in this gallup poll young men under 30 30 and under had said that

00:24:15.840 religion was actually very important in their lives not just important i think that very is

00:24:21.240 important um and that's up from 28 percent um as recently as 2023 so in what is it three years

00:24:29.560 that's a big jump from 28 to 42 percent of young men responding that religion was very important

00:24:36.760 in their lives. Women, however, are on, across all ages, I should say, are the lowest numbers of

00:24:47.240 religiosity on record. And while 30-year-old plus women tend to be still more religious than men of 0.81

00:24:56.880 the same age, only 29% of 18 to 24-year-old women in the Gallup poll said that religion

00:25:05.800 was important to them.

00:25:07.540 So that's a huge discrepancy between the young men, 42%,

00:25:11.340 and the young women, 29%.

00:25:15.580 And this is something, as you're pointing out,

00:25:19.680 is relatively recent in its development.

00:25:21.980 And it's a trend, isn't it, Jenny?

00:25:23.260 This is something that we see and we're picking up on,

00:25:25.520 and it's growing, this divergence between men and women.

00:25:28.260 It's going to be very interesting.

00:25:30.160 I don't really think men have led on Christianity in the West,

00:25:34.220 probably since the the vic certainly since before the second world war but in the uk probably since

00:25:39.740 the victorian victorian era it will be interesting to see how christianity which is fundamentally i

00:25:46.840 mean the the feminists the second third wave wave anti-patriarchy feminists understand something

00:25:54.460 about christianity that fundamentally it is a patriarchal religion it will be interesting to

00:25:59.820 see how christianity um reacts once it rediscovers if you will re-embraces a strong masculine

00:26:08.840 component in in its everyday leadership it's it's patriarchal um inheritance my personal

00:26:15.860 belief jenny and frank and we'll continue this after the this short break is that i think

00:26:22.180 christianity is absolutely going to explode in the west as like floodwaters coming back in folks

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00:31:23.880 Welcome back. Just to finish the point I was making, when I say that I think Christianity is going to explode again in the West 0.99

00:31:30.400 once it realigns itself with its patriarchal inheritance. 0.84

00:31:37.800 There is something in Christianity, you see it in Islam as well.

00:31:41.600 You don't see it necessarily in other religions like Hinduism or what have you.

00:31:46.260 But you definitely see it in Islam and you definitely see it in Christianity.

00:31:49.540 And it has a strong patriarchal part to it.

00:31:53.620 I don't know why that is. I don't know why God made it that way.

00:31:57.280 But you can see the fact that Christianity has been on the back foot since it's wanted to decouple with male leadership, especially in the House on Christian issues.

00:32:10.720 There's a statistic, Frank Walker, you might be familiar with this statistic. There's an astonishing statistic in Catholic practice about kids, sons, who keep the Catholic faith if it was their father who was primarily responsible for taking them to Mass as they were kids.

00:32:30.240 and it's a very very high correlation fathers who were responsible for taking their sons to mass

00:32:39.980 on sunday when those kids grow up they they continue to be mass going if it was the mother

00:32:45.120 that was primarily responsible not so much um i don't as i say i don't know why it is why that

00:32:51.800 would be um not my job so it's above my pay grade but it would seem pretty um clear to me that uh

00:33:00.220 that's the way god had just designed it you see the c it's the same thing again um with the with

00:33:06.520 the the right with the um we're about the debate about whether girls should be all to service at

00:33:13.540 mass um i don't know why it is but if you have boys doing it serving at mass um um in novice

00:33:21.200 sort of parishes they would they will if the priest indicates that he wants only boys serving

00:33:26.060 then they will all be boys and they will stay up right through adolescence the moment they start

00:33:30.260 priest start letting girls in again i don't know why this is the boys will back off um and they'll

00:33:36.460 they're about 10 11 12 they'll cease to to have any role in that um and then of course many young

00:33:44.280 guys when they grow up they lose the opportunity to familiarize themselves with their the possibility

00:33:50.100 they might have a stronger vocation not something a problem that the tridentine right

00:33:57.700 catholic church has to wrestle with um guys do you have the jenny any more takeaways from the

00:34:05.140 gallop poll frank any observations before we move on can i just add one thing um axios covered the

00:34:11.560 same poll and their take on it was very interesting that i share um they see it as a sign actually

00:34:18.000 they use the phrase tectonic shift. It's a possible tectonic shift in young men's worldview

00:34:24.120 and that Christianity has become a counterculture in the American youth, which to me is shocking 1.00

00:34:34.100 and very, it rings very true. And I also, it gives me great hope that they're, that young men are 0.99

00:34:43.680 going to this um oh you know this old religion essentially um as a sign of their own rebellion

00:34:51.760 against the neolib woke um state uh which fundamentally woke is the new religion woke

00:35:01.340 is the new moral system and if they need christianity to reject that then that's wonderful

00:35:06.120 news for all of us all concerned yeah it's very much um it's very much a case of where

00:35:12.640 where a man intended evil but god is bringing around a greater good the whole i'm talking about

00:35:18.840 the whole woke brainwashing of young kids the kids that are breaking out of that brainwashed

00:35:24.400 regime are very much stronger yeah having been through it with one huge caveat um young women

00:35:31.200 are more radicalized and more far left it seems than ever um i think this certainly applies in

00:35:38.100 the UK, and I would bet you any money you would find the same numbers if you did a Gallup poll

00:35:43.140 of girls and women under 30 or women from 18 to 25. Extreme left-wing views, extreme

00:35:53.160 anti-capitalist views. There was a recent survey in the UK that found that young women thought as

00:36:00.240 ill of capitalism as they did of fascism, which, you know, knowing them, you know, they're so far

00:36:06.520 left that fascism is really the devil actually capitalism is just as bad you're reporting what

00:36:13.540 they think not your opinion on that jenny look i i've seen your break i've seen your breakdown on

00:36:19.040 on the research that we're gonna have to do a separate show on this because uh you you also

00:36:23.500 indicate the antagonism between uh the sexes you're the gen amongst generation z as well about

00:36:29.820 the view that of young guys have of young women and the view that young women have of young guys

00:36:34.720 as well it's a huge discrepancy on that that that demands further um further talk frank um

00:36:40.580 were you um agitating in your seat to say something before we move on well just it's

00:36:46.940 encouraging that you both see that as as positive and and you see a big growth and everything but

00:36:51.620 that huge gap right there is it takes a lot to overcome and that kind of thing requires prayer

00:36:57.380 and regular religious practice and it can take a whole lifetime to overcome people two two different

00:37:03.280 people that are so different in the way they see things so you know but i'm glad to hear you

00:37:07.920 say that you think that that's that that is encouraging for growth you know so and i believe

00:37:12.800 you're you're right about that yeah absolutely again i don't know what it is but it would seem

00:37:18.280 male leadership in christianity um and i open brackets in islam as well there is something

00:37:26.280 about that i think that hits the resonance frequency of transmitting the faith don't know

00:37:31.200 why that is um but you know you you see it in in the in the church of england when they moved over

00:37:38.380 to to female um priests absolute decimation people just lost interest uh again i'm not

00:37:44.900 making a value judgment call on this i'm just observing something that seems to be empirically

00:37:50.520 there um frank we we don't have very much time to hit the the two stories that you and jenny have

00:37:58.400 um for the very much diminished second half of this show very quickly i was very heartened to see

00:38:07.600 uh in the um and i said last week i'm very happy that president trump pushed back pushing is

00:38:14.800 pushing back on pope leo i have certain reservations about the nature of his talking

00:38:22.020 points against pope leo no problem whatsoever i'm not going to be do one of these people say oh you

00:38:27.560 know you shouldn't attack the early father which most of catholic inc is coming out and saying on

00:38:32.260 social media i absolutely think you should do that um i just think he i think some of his points

00:38:37.100 are are i'm going to land with the very people who could be persuaded and that's a catholic

00:38:42.580 supporters but we don't have time to go into that as a for as a consequence however of this social

00:38:48.500 media fallout between the two um the potus has cancelled the funding the annual funding of 11

00:38:58.820 million dollars to some catholic pro-invasion it's inverted commas catholic pro-invasion

00:39:06.620 NGO in florida um what's going on there in florida in the sunshine state i i don't think

00:39:14.980 it necessarily was a consequence of it, because they're down to 10% of the population that they're

00:39:23.640 servicing in that facility that they were in the Biden administration. So it may have already been

00:39:29.300 in the hopper that they were closing this already. This operation goes back into the time of Castro,

00:39:36.000 when all of the Cuban refugees were coming over. But there are some interesting things that they

00:39:40.320 said in there. They said they're closing, consolidating unused facilities that Trump

00:39:44.320 administration continues efforts to stop illegal entry and smuggling and trafficking of unaccompanied

00:39:49.260 alien children. And, you know, that may be part of a human trafficking, child trafficking

00:39:55.440 situation. So, you know, the only pushback they're getting from Archbishop Wenski, who is

00:40:01.460 already on record, lying about when DeSantis sent people, illegals, up to Martha's Vineyard

00:40:07.740 and lying about the alligator Alcatraz that they have in Florida, saying that they're not,

00:40:12.380 that people in there are sick and not getting medical care. 0.52

00:40:15.800 He's been attacking on behalf of this illegal alien racket 0.81

00:40:20.500 that they have in the United States for a long time.

00:40:22.800 But he's just saying, well, they won't find anybody this competent.

00:40:28.900 And then they're finding out people are saying that, well,

00:40:30.700 they're going to need psychologists because it's going to be emotional.

00:40:33.420 There's just not much pushback against it from the Catholic Church

00:40:37.880 and Catholic charity.

00:40:39.280 So, you know, I don't think this is—I don't think this is really that big of a deal to—I don't think this makes Trump look especially bad.

00:40:47.780 I do agree with you that Trump leapt over all of the wall of anti-Trump Catholic media.

00:40:55.940 People that were actually pro-Trump are all against him now, and it's just amazing. 0.74

00:41:02.380 You know, when they sit when the FBI was was tracing and tracking traditional Catholics, I think they don't need to do that anymore, because traditional Catholics, when you look at the at the influencers in the media now, there is they are doing everything they possibly can do to destroy the Catholic and the Christian vote. 0.57

00:41:22.040 They're also, you know, dividing Catholics from Protestants, and they're blaming people who, you know, they say, well, you cannot say anything bad about the Holy Father. 0.62

00:41:32.200 But the Holy Father is an open liberal who advocates for all these anti-Catholic causes.

00:41:37.880 Are they unaware of that?

00:41:39.780 It's just amazing what they're doing right now to destroy the Catholic vote. 0.56

00:41:45.060 It's a media event.

00:41:46.140 I don't think they've done it with the people so much, but, you know, it's amazing.

00:41:50.040 You mentioned the division between Catholics and Protestants, and that's actually the final subject we're going to be quickly discussing with Jenny in just a moment or so.

00:42:01.260 I can't help but notice that the Tampa, you know, I think the jury's out.

00:42:04.880 I don't know when this was being the closure of this, when it will have been decided.

00:42:09.540 I'm certainly choosing to see this as the fact that this is President Trump firing a shot across the bowels of lefty Leo.

00:42:20.400 Because, of course, they do this in Florida.

00:42:21.820 They can do this right across the whole of the United States, really, and they should do.

00:42:25.540 I noticed that the Tampa Bay Times here indicates that Archbishop Wenski, Thomas Wenski,

00:42:33.340 they call him a longtime immigrant rights advocate.

00:42:37.120 Obviously, that's approval language.

00:42:38.820 well of course he's going to be along of course he's going to be an immigrants right

00:42:43.700 um advocate they're getting 11 million dollars uh a year out of um about out of effectively uh

00:42:51.620 kiddie trafficking it's like going to raytheon i don't know or um or palantir or or anyone part

00:42:59.420 part of the the military industrial complex and saying do you think armaments are a good idea

00:43:03.940 Of course we think they're a good idea

00:43:06.000 They're great 1.00

00:43:06.460 Of course the so-called Catholic

00:43:08.920 The Catholic 1.00

00:43:11.100 Invasion 1.00

00:43:13.980 Syndicate is going to think 1.00

00:43:15.720 Immigration's a good thing 1.00

00:43:17.940 They're getting paid 1.00

00:43:18.600 This is their meat and drink

00:43:20.120 I'm glad that President Trump

00:43:23.820 Is putting a stop to this

00:43:25.900 I'm delighted

00:43:26.520 They're having never Trump prayers now

00:43:29.480 In all of the parishes

00:43:31.200 General Flynn just reported in Palm Beach

00:43:33.700 They put it up on the screen and they pray against Trump, who's attacking the Pope.

00:43:38.540 But how can they complain about it?

00:43:39.840 They had 22,000 children a year at this facility a couple of years ago.

00:43:44.460 Now they'll have 1,900.

00:43:45.760 What were they going to do with all that money anyway?

00:43:48.020 I mean, what were they going to do with that money?

00:43:50.120 They don't need it anymore, but they're still complaining that Trump is hurting them somehow.

00:43:55.340 Frank Walker, I'll meet your anti-Trump.

00:43:59.120 I'll match your anti-Trump prayers in church, and I'll raise you.

00:44:02.620 give me these give me the pete hegseth pulp fiction prayer let's let's let's let's get a

00:44:08.140 wider audience to that right you do you do anti-prump press sorry i saw i i saw i saw the

00:44:18.580 i saw the bible reading you know let's have let's get let's commission let's let's not just take

00:44:25.160 something i've seen from a film and mirror it into a prayer let's commission quentin tarantino

00:44:31.080 himself to write a whole selection of prayers so we can get them out in the MAGA churches

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00:46:02.400 Jenny, in the final five minutes of the show,

00:46:05.780 you picked out this article, I think it's from The Federalist, indeed it is.

00:46:10.560 Catholics and Protestants are going to need each other for what's coming.

00:46:14.700 I saw this and I thought this is very much something that we say here on our Wednesday show. 0.99

00:46:22.420 What's the thesis? What's the theory of the case here?

00:46:26.740 So John Daniel Davidson, the author of this, who is a former evangelical who converted to Catholicism,

00:46:34.020 the first half of the article, the essay sort of delineates the discord currently between Catholics

00:46:42.600 supporting Pope Leo and the MAGA Protestants who are supporting Trump. And I will leave that to

00:46:49.360 him. I will take him at his word for that, on that. But I resoundingly endorse his closing

00:46:56.300 message, which is that we are all, all one of, all every one of us fighting a, what he calls a

00:47:04.060 neo-pagan morality. And I think that's the best, one of the best formulations to understand what

00:47:10.040 woke ideology is. Yes, it's a political movement, but underpinning that is a sort of moral fervor

00:47:17.460 that inverts, sorry to use the phrase, Ben, Judeo-Christian morality, and replaces it with

00:47:26.000 this very anti-human and immoral power dynamic that masks or presents itself in people as a

00:47:38.960 religion, as in people are so fervently believe, so fervently believe this, that they do harm to

00:47:44.140 others and to themselves. And in that paradigm, which we are all living in, whether we realize

00:47:50.740 it or not, the only way out is through. And the only way through is to stick together, which is

00:47:58.560 what I have been banging on about for some time, vis-a-vis the Iran war and all of these sort of

00:48:05.980 media tempests and teapots about various scandals and this, that, and the other. Blinkers on

00:48:12.600 everyone. We have a demon to slay, and that is the woke neo-religion. We are not going to do it

00:48:21.700 if we're infighting. So I cannot agree with this article for that reason enough. Whether the

00:48:28.980 debate between or the fight between Protestants and Catholics is really that serious, I cannot say

00:48:35.480 I find it disconcerting that it's even mentioned, given that where I am coming from to you today in Northern Ireland, a place that has seen real Catholic Protestant discord, although not of a religious, wasn't religiously motivated.

00:48:49.480 It was sectarian. But, you know, I cannot say this enough.

00:48:54.440 I mean, whether or not Trump has made all the right decisions, he is the only leader, he is the only way out of this, and he is a beacon for the rest of the world that is struggling under woke tyranny here in the UK, in Australia, in the south of Ireland, in Canada, and many other places besides.

00:49:15.180 I think to finish on your closing words of underlying the importance, the providential importance of President Trump at this point in America's history in its 250th year is the perfect point to close on.

00:49:34.040 Just quick, if I may, I don't have a problem with the adjective Judeo-Christian.

00:49:40.240 I use it myself, have used it in the past.

00:49:43.860 My problem was it seems only to be used aimed at Christians,

00:49:50.240 and these days it's only used aimed at Christians, by Christians and by Jews. 1.00

00:49:56.380 It's aimed at Christians to get them, to bludgeon them over the head, 0.93

00:49:59.720 to accept a Zionist agenda. 0.53

00:50:02.720 And it's never anything I see used by Jews talking to Jews in Israel itself.

00:50:09.800 That sort of indicates to me that there's something fake now about the concept. 0.61

00:50:15.660 And I would very much endorse the thesis of this article, and thanks for telling us about it.

00:50:22.280 The theological issues aren't going to go away, and they are really important.

00:50:28.180 But we're not trying to do anything on the theological point.

00:50:32.340 this is a political argument um and believing catholics and believing evangelicals must i think

00:50:42.100 work increasingly together on the uh christian nationalist agenda that is all we have rather than

00:50:50.340 the christian zionist agenda which is being created for us that's all we have time for on

00:50:55.780 the show jenny you are the number one social commentator on these culture hot button cultural

00:51:01.740 issues where do people go very quickly on social media to follow you and keep up with your analysis

00:51:06.880 well since jk rowling tweeted me uh i am i said my ex following has grown somewhat you can follow

00:51:13.240 me at semper femina 21 you can follow me on youtube at saving culture from itself and on

00:51:20.260 Substack at

00:51:22.820 JennyEHolland.substack.com

00:51:25.840 And Frank Walker on Canon 212

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00:51:31.460 and also on Twitter

00:51:32.160 Canon 212 spelled out

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WarRoom Battleground EP 993： The Strong Undercurrent Of Christianophobia In Some Elements Of Israeli Culture

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